Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Players to Forgive + Top 5 Rankings Check - Fantasy Football Podcast for 5/5

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Fantasy Football show for May 5, 2026. Who should be forgiven after a down year? The Ballers pick players they are giving another chance in 2026 fantasy football drafts! Plus, top 5 rankings, player outlooks, and more! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Get the lowest price on the 2026 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Instant access to the Dynasty Pass with the UDK+ Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in one and all. It's a podcast. It's what we do. We record podcasts. That's right. Video and audio for your... No 4D stuff yet.

They're doing those 4D movies. theaters now you see that they're putting one in what is the fourth i hope it's not like smell no it is it actually is smell oh it's smell well then you don't want our show to be a four-dimensional podcast yeah they like uh shake the chair and they blow in scents and wind and that's cool i don't know if i need to do that much in a movie theater or not like there would be a movie like a space movie would be fun i mean i i i think that there there's probably a lot of fun applications to that. Then there's the annoying stuff. Like horseback riding? You don't want someone to like sneeze and then you get like a little bit of

a little mist. A little mist. It's just like no, no. Jay Grizz is in the building. Go ahead, Al. Just do the thing that everyone loves. Do it. If you can find it. Do it. Take your time. Al, hit it. He's normally like on the trigger to that thing. Yes, Jay Gris in the building. Jason and I here with a cardboard bear. With a cardboard bear, extraordinary. We have a good show today. Players to forgive.

Forgiveness is important, especially in fantasy football. In fact, I would say that that concept works well with our show on Thursday because Thursday we're talking about overreactions. And so it's kind of like both of those are psychological situations that can get you underwater in fantasy football because we play a season. All your hopes are high on a certain player or situation. and it doesn't go the way it's supposed to, and then you're miserable, and you hold grudges,

and that's dangerous in fantasy football. Yeah, you've got to be able to, you've got to be able to, yeah, just in fantasy football. No, I mean, you've got to be able to move on and not, not overreact, overcorrect. We'll talk about more of the overreactions, but what's funny is we're talking about who are we willing to forgive in 2026? That's our quick question.

And I did not even realize until looking at the show doc, Mike had an answer in and looking at his answer I forgot like I you know sometimes the stages of grief it starts with denial and I think that's still where I was with this player

Mike's pick was Roma Dunesay he's willing to forgive Roma Dunesay I've got to say that it was technically Jay Grizz's pick oh okay well as the Bears fan but I forgot about I forgot about something

That's enough. Yeah. This is why. We are allowed one per show. I had it planned where I was going to put it, and then you guys forced the first one. I still had to hit the second. He had a graphic on that. Listen.

It was for a dunce. People always, they go, why don't you let him hit the Jay Gris drop? We love the Jay Gris drop. It's because he doesn't have self-control. No, none. You know, it's like a child. Right. You have to parent well.

You want a piece of cake? No, I want 12 pieces of cake. Oh, you ask for you. I really did ask for that one. I'm sorry, audience. They probably like it. Anyways, with Roma Dunezay, this is the thing I forgot, and I see it.

Whoever put this in the dock has hurt me deeply. Oh, yeah. You see it now as well. We're looking at the year of Roma Dunezai. Roma Dunezai, who started on fire. Number 21, number 4, number 18, number 19, number 5, number 10. Catch a touchdowns left and right. Looked like he was doing the true breakout.

Top 10 draft pick, great wide receiver. He established himself. Are you talking about the wide receiver three for the first month of the year? That's what I'm talking about. Wide receiver three first month of the year. And then as time went on after week 10 when he was a top 10 wide receiver, two weeks prior to that, he was the wide receiver five. He's still on fire.

And I trade for him. That was the moment. Right then to put me over the top to take out Mike last year in our league of record. What do you do after you traded for him? He put up the wide receiver 52, 39, 88. and then never played again. Yeah, I see a total from week 11 on of getting you like 13 fancy points. Yeah, but over three weeks.

See, this is not the first time Jason has been the curse on a player because once upon a time he traded for Greg Olson. Yes. For the stretch run of the season and Greg Olson turned into the worst player in football and he ended up with a picture on one of our bathrooms. Yeah. He deserved that picture. I mean, I will say I'm completely willing to forgive Romadunza. It's not my pick for this section, but that would be one of my picks for next year. I have him.

I am curious because there's been a lot of talk between the three main receivers, Loveland, O'Donzee, Burden. And especially between Burden and O'Donzee, I've seen ADPs in both directions. A lot of people calling their shot on which is the better, the more breakout wide receiver, who they want to take the shot on. Let's assume the ADP is the same. Which guy, now that you've statted. We've been doing all of the statting for the UDK. The three of us are almost through all the teams.

I believe you are through all the teams. Where did O'Donzei versus burden end up? Do you know the order that? I do know the order. Yeah, yeah. I have O'Donzee ahead of him, which I believe you do as well. And it is, I wasn't sure how that was going to end up. I will say that I can hear Mike, even though he's not here.

Like I hear the whispers of Mike. And the whispers of Mike say things. They're nasally. They're very, yeah, they're nasally whispers. He can't breathe well. No, it's basically, they're two spots apart, first of all. So let me put that out there. We're talking about six fantasy points of projection differential.

Oh, wow. So number 25 and 27 right now today. But I know Mike's going to have burden higher. And I know the thing that Mike is going to say is what if Luther Burden is the Amun Rae St. Brown of that team. That is going to be the refrain. And honestly, with the inconsistency of a doones day, with the touchdowns, you could easily make the comp for him to be the Jameson Williams of the team. So in fantasy, you always want Al Monra over Jameson Williams.

And if burden evolves to that level of, you know, the mirrors between those teams are actually wild now. Yeah. Because Loveland, LaPorta, their involvement in the offense, the running backs, their utilization. And it's not a surprise. He wanted to build another lion's offense. It's just right now I do forgive Roma Dunseh. I believe, you know, he had an injury, missed the last four games of the year. Obviously the three before that were a problem.

Underdog Bestball has Luther Burden going as the wide receiver 21 and O'Donzee is the wide receiver 28. So the money right now, because those are paid actual real drafts happening, is on the Luther burden side in Sleeper ADP right now. It's even more extreme. Wide receiver 17 for Burden and 30 for O'Donzee. So the fact that we both have O'Donzee ahead. There's no DJ more anymore. Correct.

No DJ anymore. And if things go the best, I do think burden wins. I don't consider, I mean, I project based on what I think the outcome is going to be. And I have Adunzee two spots ahead. I think he's going to score more touchdowns, which is impactful. And this offense is going to be good. Yeah. This is probably going to be a top five offense.

I mean, if we're just given spoiler alerts, I mean, Caleb Williams is ranked fairly high for me. I was shocked with mine. I had to lower him a little bit. I felt embarrassed. Yeah, I mean, but it makes sense. This offense should click. If he does what he should do, which is just take a step forward, not like a level up. He already showed last year.

I don't know, 60% of our passes. Right, exactly. Just that. With their offensive line, I think the run game is going to be fine. this should be really good. Now let's talk about the player you're willing to forgive because I think people need this way more than they need to forgive O'Donze. Well, it is a player that we absolutely adored going into the season.

He's a my guy. He had the second most fantasy points of all time for a wide receiver to start their career. Okay, better than Chase and neighbors, better than Bolden and McLaurin and just under Pooka. He was a Mecca, Abu. And Mika Egbekboo. Also Amika Bigboo. And I believe that might have been the turning point of the season. When Rob Grankowski chose to pronounce his name in such a fashion, it sent waves of wide receiver 44, 51, 43, 73, 39, 65, 73, 90.

Uncatchable targets and the ones that were he didn't. It was a true, all things go wrong at the same time. if you look at what he did last year, his catch rate, so it's for the same team. Let me read you catch rates. Okay, yeah. Tess Johnson with Baker Mayfield,

63.6%. Okay, that's good. It's fine. How about Jalen McMillan, who came back for a limited amount of time, but let's just, let's give you 80%. That's very good. Let's go Chris Godwin.

Miss some time came back as well. 64.7%. Kind of low for Godwin, but still good. What was a big boost? Do you want to guess? Do you remember? Dude, it's got to be like 42%. 49.6%. So here's the math equation of forgiveness.

One part, or maybe it's the Witch's Brew, I don't know, are we putting it in, maybe I'll put it in a cauldron, all right? The Witches brew of forgiveness. One part volume. He's going to have tons of it. Mike Evans has departed. Tess Johnson and Jay Limlin are very good players. They're also not super well-rounded players.

they're not full-time 100 target players. Chris Godwin's older. So one part volume, one part, the sky doesn't fall. You have targets from Baker-Mavit. You're not going to be at 49% again. If you do, you're flaming out as a professional athlete. And it's really hard for me to buy Emeka Abuka, who had the first 10 weeks of the season that he had flaming out as a professional.

It just doesn't add up to me. He's too good of a player. he also had an injury during the second half of the season that was underreported and I think had an impact with the hamstring we had a hamstring for Evans we had a hamstring for abuka so look get that catch percentage up to 55 to 60 percent which is super reasonable okay yeah I mean you said and I just don't think that we should hold it against him I think he's going to be a lot better this is not a bad wide receiver like you just I think it's pretty easy to determine whether he's going to be fine or not.

And it's like, well, did he forget how to play wide receiver? Is he a bad, like, of course not. He was a first round pick because he's a great wide receiver. He showed how good he was. And then he had a bad stretch run. Right now, Emeka Ibuka, for me, is wide receiver 15. 14. Okay.

So, yeah, we're very. It's always fun this time of year. Oh, we don't know what each other's rankings are. I think some of this show is going to just be us finding that up, us discovering where we have the other player. But yeah, I have him at 14. I think it'll go well. I do.

Well, the player I'm going to forgive is scary. And he's top 10 in my rankings. And it's Kyler Murray. Oh, it feels bad to forgive Kyler, especially as a former Arizona Cardinals fan who has been burned by the, we'll just kindly. We will say coward. But the little guy behind the line who had no ability to stand in the pocket and did not really do well last year when he was healthy as a Cardinal, I am willing to forgive because he is very talented.

He is athletic. He can run. And in fantasy, we know this. I've talked about this on a different show recently. We all know mobile quarterback score more in fantasy. This is not breaking news. But the absolute truth is if you just look and you just draft the guy who runs more almost blindly with very little else, you're usually going to get it right. You're going to a team where he has better weapons and he's had in a long time. Marvin Harrison and Tray McBride are not Justin Jefferson.

Like Justin Jefferson as your wide receiver won is a true difference maker. I think a good offensive system that has historically had great success with every quarterback. that's thrown in there until this last season, where nine went in there and ruined some things. The weapons, the fact that he's in a contract year, like Kyler is playing for Kyler, and I believe he's going to have a very successful season. If you look and you take this last year that was so bad out,

the only guys who score as a top 12 quarterback more than Kyler, basically in Kyler's career, is Herbert, Burrow, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Jalen Hertz. He's got a lot of history of doing great things for fantasy football. Yeah, I think Kyler is, I don't know, is your forgiveness a fantasy forgiveness?

Yes, yes. Pure fantasy. I don't forgive the coward. So, I mean, there's opinions out there that Kyler's going to be the next Gino Smith and Sam Darnold resurgent season. I'm looking at, you know, Donald last year for fantasy wide quarterback 14, Gino in his resurgence season, quarterback 16.

Baker was another one, right? That seemed dead but came back to life. Would you say that the Minnesota Vikings are a good franchise? Genuine question. I don't know your opinion on that. Do you believe that the Vikings are a good franchise? I don't think you need to ask that. I think the question is, do you think that they're structured in a good way right now?

Sure. And I think, yeah. I think right now they have all the pieces there, the head coach, the defense, the offense. When you look at all those examples that you just said, Sam Donald, he was not good when he was on the Jets and the Panthers. But when he went to a structure and a franchise that was good, it worked out. Gino Smith, Jets didn't work out. He goes to, ironically, the same, you know, team that had a good structure. It worked out.

Baker, the Browns, the Panthers. And then he goes to a good structure and it works. So Kyler is a good player. He's not bad. These guys are all good. and if you go to a good structure, you're going to succeed. That's how I view it. Yeah. No, I mean, I think it is, I agree with some of the things you said.

Is it the presence of a good structure or the absence of a bad one as well? Right. Yes, because the Cardinals are not a good structure. Kyler has, like I don't project Kyler as a great fantasy player. I do forgive him in the sense that I think he will provide good fantasy value for the weapons there. Where do you, where did that land for you? Very low. I don't think you want, I don't think you want to know. All right.

23. I don't think Kyler, it's been a long time. Like we talk about if Deshawn Watson starts in Cleveland, like we haven't seen a season from him since 2020. Kyler, it's been a while. I mean, he had five starts last year, right? This is an offense where when Jacoby Brissette took over, they were one of the top scoring offenses in football.

Kyler's five starts last year equated to quarterback 16, 22, 16, 16, 22. You didn't even break the top 15. The year before, basically since the back half of the year, it was more of the same stuff. I mean, he was the quarterback 10 the year before, right? Yeah, but from the by week on, so the last like almost a season of starts from Kyla Murray

have been really subpar. I just feel like we watched him and we criticized. Yes. There's a reason I'm calling him a coward. You made the comment. He's a good player. I don't agree with that comment. I don't think that is a solid comment,

but I do think the structure he can succeed in Minnesota. I agree with you on that. I think Jefferson benefits tremendously from it. I think Addison benefits tremendously from it. I think he can run a great offense to the quarterback 14 to 16 range to the Darnold range. But maybe the rushing will push him up into that top 10. Where do you have him? I've got him at 10.

At 10. He's my quarterback 10 right now. That means that I can ask you a follow-up question that I think will be fun. Okay. Which is if he's at 10, you have to name the five guys behind him. the five guys. I mean, you have to name the five names of quarterbacks that you have now behind Kyla Murray.

That's the question that I think the people deserve to hear. Oh, no. They deserve to hear you say that a lot. There's a name of two in there. Let me read you the names I have behind Kyle Murray. Yeah. Cam Ward, C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young, Sam, Darnold, Daniel Jones. Sure.

You do yours. Okay. You're not going to like it. When I say you, no. I mean everyone, listen. Everyone on earth. Everyone on earth. Jay Gris, you're not going to like it.

Yeah. earmuffs. Baker Mayfield. Okay. I can live with that. Okay. Patrick Mahomes. Okay.

I've got Patrick Mahomes at quarterback 14 right now. Okay. Brock Purdy. Actually, he can live with the Patrick Mahomes. I got him at 17. Jordan Love. And this one, I think people will be very. This will change after June 1st when he has AJ Brown.

But right now I have Drake May outside the top 10. Yeah. So there you go. Again, when he gets... Drake is my quarterback, two. Woo! Well, have you statted him with the presumption of having AJ Brown? No, sir.

So this is quarterback. Okay. No, sir. That's fine. You know, I know our process. I statted him with the outcome of last year, which was... Oh, so he has that schedule again? That's pretty cool.

I thought last year... Do second year guys that go to the Super Bowl? they get a lot worse the next year? I couldn't remember. Maybe I was misremembering that last year they only played three teams that were like top, you know, above 500. So you were last year's quarterback three you have at 17 or whatever. Last year's quarterback three I have down lower at 16, which will probably move up to be a top 12. It's going to turn into a people I need to forgive segment.

It sounds like it's me. We'll take a break. We'll be right back. Come on, Al. You can't say that out loud. You should have just asked him right on the microphone. Oh, okay. Hey, Jason, is your chair slowly falling by chance?

Not that I was aware of. We've had a few instances where Jason's chair. You were getting a little low on the camera. You were getting shorter and shorter. Starts to get lower and I wish I had control of that chair. That would be the funnest thing. You say something I don't like. I just hit a button and you go.

I mean, it's wonderful to have control over someone when they say something you don't like. Yeah, go ahead. La la la la la. And you can't talk because I can mute his button. What? you may speak. Why did you give him, you got to take that away now.

Yeah, I probably should. I think we did that for a footcast. That was for a gag. Now he's got full power over me. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Patriots fans are going to be so big mad with me. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, they will. Yeah. Yeah, I'm big mad. And I'm not a Patriots fan. I don't, I don't blame you. Again, I do not have him stated out where he's going to end on June 1st. The subtext of that ranking. The subtext of that ranking is I respect nothing about you, Drake May.

You are a beneficiary of your schedule alone, and I'm going to put you where you belong. I don't, I think that is hyperbolic. But I will say that the, I think that the benefit that came from the schedule was outsized. And they do have an actual difficult schedule this year. You've got a Jaden Daniels argument. That's, I mean, exactly. But that's a pretty big gap. Yeah.

But if you're just holding back, because you'll probably... You're just holding back for AJ Brown. Yeah. He will probably be around quarterback 10 to 12, 10 to 12 with AJ Brown. Yeah, he had a high touchdown rate. Kyle points out. I agree. I agree.

I do think AJ Brown is a really good player. I think he's better than Stefan Diggs. Yeah. And Romeo Dobbs. Is there? And booty. Yep. Yeah, I love that team.

I love that team. We're talking news. George Pickens finally officially signed. the franchise tag. Oh my gosh. Back and forth. Did he sign it with Invisible Inc? I can't wait to find out that he didn't sign it yet.

I did see a report that basically, because we had said, I think it was a forecast where like he's not going to sign this thing and he's going to take it as long as he can go. And then he signed it but didn't. But then he signed up it didn't. Now they're saying no, he really did sign it. But it was reported he's still not going to like do the practice. Like you know how usually people don't sign the franchise because then they don't technique they're not missing they don't have to show up yet they don't have to show up yet i think

there's like a deal where it's like okay i'll sign it but i'm gonna do the thing like i don't have to do all the practice i don't know who knows is he playing with a star on his helmet this year i think he is i think he's playing with a star on his helmet so we haven't got to talk about um this at all this was uh nick underhill one of the best beat writers in the business for the saints came out and said alvin camera says that uh uh a chan you know travis etienne formerly formerly known as a jambalaya as i call him uh that A-chan is explosive. He hits home runs.

Quote, this is the quote that matters. I'm excited to see what we can do together. There's a lot that came out from... Now, what was the fart? The fart was disbelief? The fart was... Or was that an on H-N? Yeah, it's an on-H-N as far as for fantasy value.

So I had, and it was personal, I'll be honest. This was a situation where we had our keeper, lottery that we had to decide upon and I was between whether I was going to keep David Montgomery or Travis H. J.N. Jr. And my belief was this. My belief was that

Alvin Camara is going to be a saint. When they signed him, it was like, oh, maybe Alvin Camara's done, they're moving on, or he's going to be relegated to a backup order. They're going to trade him. Basically, what has come out from Underhill and from Camara himself is that he is very much

wanting to be a part of what the Saints are doing very excited to have A. Chan there. He's happy he got paid, and they are both going to be a big part of what they do, which is maybe very good for the Saints, good for Camara. It is not good for...

You can't have two big parts. For Travis A.C.N. Jr.'s fantasy value is not that good. And then I just went and checked because I was like... I want to hear it. I've got David Montgomery two spots ahead of A.N. Jr. and I chose to keep A-chan over Montgomery. But I'm guessing that the ADP is much higher on Travis.

I'm sure you're right about that. Actually, I have ADP here. Travis A-chan Jr., it's really hard. It's so hard, man. I feel so stupid every time I say A-C-C-N-W-H-Li. I feel like I'm a person learning to pronounce something for the first time. Sounded out. It's so weird.

And then the-17 and 24 is the current ADP for A-C-C-H-N. in Montgomery. I have them at 21 and 27. So I do have I have HM below ADP four spots. I have Montgomery below ADP as well. And the weirdest thing is his brother Trevor ETN. It's like, oh yeah, yeah. We called his brother E.T.N on the show as though he does not share the same desires. But it's like obviously they have the exact name from the same location. So it should be Trevor I don't want to do it. I hate it, man. It's it feels bad every time I say it. You don't know why? It feels bad because no one knows.

Do you think we're talking about? Devon H. Ann. Yeah, it's tough. Rumbalaya and Rumbalia Jr. The problem is Rumbulli is not going to be Rumbalaya with Alvin Kamara taking a bunch of the targets. Alvin Kamara just go away now. That's what I mean. Just go away.

Someone needs to have a veteran important running back injured and then they just trade for Camara to come in and plug that hole for a year and we're reporting the Cardinals head coach Michael Foer said quote it won't be the worst thing for him if Carson Beck ends up sitting part or all of his

rookie season. Let me add or career. Yeah. The he sits for all of his career that is also wouldn't be the worst thing for football. I would say usually it's not the worst when a third round quarterback doesn't have to start every game that rookie season. That should never be the implication like you don't draft a guy in the third round to be like, this is, we got them guys. On a scale.

We caught our starter. On a dysfunction scale, 100 is the most dysfunctional. Okay. One is the least dysfunctional. Where are the Cardinals? I would say, I wouldn't put it at 100. I would say 99. So the Cardinals are a 99 dysfunction.

Therefore, in my head, I believe that there's a chance they drafted Carson Beck exclusively for negotiating leverage with Jacoby Brissette requesting the star. the starters upgrade in compensation. Sure. We would waste a pick to win a financial argument with a veteran that has gone from team to team. I mean, it's like the guy in the league who just keeps drafting one position gets the in a single quarterback league.

It's like, I'm going to take three quarterbacks. I'll have all the power. And then I'll trade. Everyone's going to have to come in me for trades. Doesn't work like that. I genuinely, I wonder. I wonder about, I wonder if the fact that you can't, the fact that you can wonder if a multi-billion dollar entity can do such stupid things.

Like you shouldn't even be allowed to have such a silly thought. But this is like, okay, I can see it. Speaking of rankings impacted by potentially shared opportunities, speaking of Camara and H.M. We have another one. I didn't like seeing this any more than you did, Jason. Ian Rappaport said free agent tied-in, David Najoku. Don't do it. Is visiting with the Los Angeles Chargers.

Don't do it, on Monday. He did visit with the Ravens already and did not sign a contract there. The Chargers have Arronday Gadsden, who we like a lot. I really like. I think he's my Titan 5 right now. Yeah, that's six. I've got him at 8, and I definitely this would hurt.

potential for a big break out there. Nizoku's a good player. He will help a team. This would be a great move for the Chargers to bring him in. It would be good for Herbert, good for the offense, good for the run game, bad for Gadsden, and I only care about the fantasy implications. Very bad for Gadsden. Why don't you go take the Darren Waller spot that does that...

Just go to Miami. That's a nice place to live. Don't they have like no... You want to know who... No tax down there? Do you want to know whose fantasy value would hurt? No ones. Yeah.

There's nothing to hurt. Yeah, there's no, you might catch 100 balls. Yeah, go sign a one-year deal there and then go get another big contract. Yeah, send him a letter, let them know. Yeah. We could advise. One more report here, the athletics, Nate Adkins, expects Rams running backs, Ryan Williams and Blake Coram to operate in more of a 50-50 split.

This news came out after I had already statted out the Rams. And let me tell you what I had stated. added already. 12 carries for Kyrin Williams, 178 carries for Blake Korum. That was where I had them already. I expected I expected more of that.

It worked for them. Corum is very good. I don't see a huge difference between the players. I do think they'll use a committee. I still have Kairn higher. Yeah, I have Kireen much higher. I think that this is being overblown. Corum is

fine for the team. Was involved last year already. I do not think this will be a 50-50 times share. I mean, this is the opinion of a reporter, and granted he's closer to the franchise than we are, but I don't see this happening. We have so much history here with McVeigh, with backs, with these two backs. Corum is talented. Corum will be involved. He was involved last year. But if you look at the, I think people viewed it last year, like towards the end of the year, especially there was this stretch of games where Coram was really successful. Yeah. But even in those games, it was like 30% snaps.

So the last five games of the year, Kyron was the running back 10. Corum was running back 21. They averaged 18.2 and 14.9 fantasy points per game. 91 fantasy points versus 74 fantasy points. Opportunities on the ground. 76 carries for Kyron Williams in that stretch. 56 for Corum. but I'm just going

I'm not I'm not disrespecting Karen I'm going from the eye test I thought I thought there were games at Corum when he had his opportunities played better than Kyron and then you run into the playoffs I don't know I think it's turning that direction and I think you need both backs

to succeed. Corum had a stretch of games where he had five touchdowns in four games and so I think that that inflated his fantasy value it also inflated I think what people really thought about him down the stretch. But if you look, even after that stretch, you're talking about snap percentages here. So I'll just read you from the by week on. So the

second half of the year, his snap percentages, 28, 39, 31, 34, 33, 31, 46, 29, 25, 33. Like, he was the backup. It was two, it was 259 carries last year for caron, 145 for Corum. I have quorum going up from 145 to 178. Corum ran a 5.1 clip. Kyron was back at 4.8 last year, double-digit touchdowns. So I can see what you're saying. I think maybe 50-50 is an overblow. But I do think you're going to be,

nobody in fantasy enjoys when they look at the, what's their number different? 22 and 23. It's so bad. The amount of times at the end of the season where you looked at and you wanted to say, oh, Kyron's going to get it. Oh, no, that's Corum.

I think you're going to get more of that this year. It's probably more 60-40. But, yeah, that one's interesting. I think it will. Every off-season we try to make Kairn worse. That is what everyone does. It's like this is the time he's not going to be the main guy. Where do you have Kairn?

This is the rank check episode. We're just revealing our own rankings to each other. I have Kiron at 10. I got him 17. Which is where he's being drafted right now. 16, yeah. Yeah, right around there. Interesting.

Does that mean you have quorum buried? Corum is 41. Okay, I got him at 35. Which is where he's being drafted. So it really is just, I think that the split will not be as close. People are getting more and more of the belief that this will be a 55, 45, 45 time share. And I just don't think that's how it will actually play out. I think I'm going to take over the show with something different.

All right. We haven't seen each other's rankings. No. We normally do this in the office. I want to kind of go through our top fives. Okay. Let's do it. And we run the show.

We're doing whatever we want right now. Except for you have control my mute button, which I don't like. What? Was that Andy? Oh, go on. There's no sound effect. I know. I'm muted.

So it doesn't, the impact is not what you think it is. If you're watching, it's funny. Maybe. Yeah. If you watch. If when your mute button happened, I turn it. into a muffled low voice. Oh, that's really the gag.

That's what I got to do. That's the joke. Don't do. Oh, what? What, Andy? Okay, we're back. Before we reveal any of our rankings right now, I do want to stress. These are always evolving. We update with every bit of news, with every bit of more information that we receive, we always say stay water.

The value of the ultimate draft kit to me, one of the, original principles of releasing it is we all grew up in fantasy buying magazines at the bookstore and those things get published months and months ahead of time and they got a bunch of rankings and stats and write-ups in them and everything's changed. I mean more than ever things are changing

on a daily basis. So we are always evolving the rankings. We're always taking new information and tweaking them. So all that to say, this is not going to be, I highly doubt that these will be identical on June 1st when the UDK releases. Oh, they will not. But I think this is fun. And I think people would enjoy it if we went through our top five at every position. We'll go back and forth on who goes first. But Jason, let's hear your top five quarterbacks as of May 5th, 945 a.m.

Number five will shock you. Nice. Even though. Oh, stop the show. We've got to do a new show next time. Even though he was literally the number five quarterback last year. So it shouldn't be that shocking. My number, my top five quarterbacks, Josh Allen is one, Lamar Jackson at two, Joe Burrow.

Up at three, Jaden Daniels squeaks in at four and number five, Dak Prescott. Okay. Dak is at 14 for me. The number five quarterback last year. Josh Allen, number one. Drake May, number two. Lamar Jackson at number three.

Number four will shock you. Oh. Trevor Lawrence. I'm shocked. Trevor Lawrence is number four. Being drafted is number 10 right now. He is my quarterback 11. Oh, there he is.

Oh, I wonder why the producers are laughing. It's because they grabbed a quick picture, a disrespectful picture. The horse boy. Is that what it is? Horse boy? Yeah, horse boy. Number five is Jalen Hertz. So I know you disrespect Jalen Hertz every year, but I put him at five.

I put him at five. He's at six for me. Honestly, when I, so this is important to know, Footland. So we just finished. At least Andy and I just finished our first go-through, team-by-team stats, top-down, tons of research. Make it make sense. And then right now, this is where the chips have fallen.

But it's not necessarily, like I will go back and tweak these. When I look at DAC and Jalen Hertz, I will probably flip-flop those guys. Because if I was on the clock, I would probably take Jalen Hertz above deck. But I haven't changed them yet. Right now, this is just the pure raw data of my first. of you reacting to your own reading out loud. Jonah just said, what is your process when statting out players

in the ultimate draft kit? That was one of the mailback questions today. So we each go about it a little bit different from a focal point standpoint. Like I know Mike starts a lot of his initial analysis through a target share lens when he looks at wide receivers. That's one of the first thing he turns to. I look a lot at the second half of the season pace.

I look at the distribution, the new additions, and what the team did the previous year. So I use a lot of last year's data as kind of my base before I start statting. I don't know exactly what you hit first. I've got like three different processes depending on the type of team. Like if there's quarterback questions and you're not sure who's going to be the quarterback and there's offensive coordinator changes, that's very different than if I'm looking at a team that has continuity. And it's like, okay, this is the bangles.

We've seen what they do. So it depends. But for the most part, I look top down at those team changes. I look at the offensive line changes. Tallest to shortest, got it. Yes, I look at the schedule changes from last year to this year, specifically looking at strength of schedule for each position. Obviously, personnel changes on additions, subtractions,

including the defensive side of the ball. And then I basically try to look at what I believe the team as a whole will do compared to the last year and work backwards from. there. Pace of play plays a role. I know Mike, Mike leans into that a lot. All right, running back reveal here. My top five running backs. Jamir Gibbs at number one. I have him. This is all half point PPR, by the way. That's what I'm reading. Yes, mine too. That's kind of important. Jamir Gibbs at number one. Christian McCaffrey is my number two running back. Number three is

Bejan Robinson. Number four, Ashton Jant. Number five, Devon A. Chan. Oh, all right. Sorry, Devon ETM. Yes, junior. We have some change there. I've got Gibbs and Bijon 1, 2, just like you. No, no, no. I got CMC at 2. Okay.

So I've got Gibbs at 1, just like you. There you go. Then I go, Bejohn Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, Yep. Christian McCaffrey at 4, and then James Cook is my number 5.

Yeah, just for the record, Cook at 6 for me, Taylor at 7. So they're just outside. The two guys that you have been. Where is Gentie and A-chan for you? Yeah, Genty is at 8 and A-chan is at 11. Okay. It was really hard for me to get the touchdown number where A-chan needs it with this Dolphins projected offense.

Okay. All right, wide receivers. I guess I'll go first. Jamar Chase is my number one. Puka number two. C.D. Lamb at three. J.S.N. at four and Justin Jefferson at five. Well, we share one of those.

Jefferson's at five for me. Okay. I have Pooka number one, JSN number two, Chase number three, Ammon Rae, St. Brown at number four. It does feel bad to not have Ammon Rae in my top five. You have CD up there. He's at six. I have CD at seven. Pickens at eight.

What do you have, Rashi Rice? Rushie Rice is at six. That's what I do, too. Yeah. Pickens is not the same for me. When I went back and looked at while. both players were healthy and active. It was a pretty, like, C.D. Lamb dominated the targets.

Pickens still had the touchdowns, but I think he was a little bit more inflated. He was extremely high, but his stretch when C.D. Lamb wasn't there was like he was the best wide receiver on planet Earth. I have him, I've got Pickens at 16. All right, tied in, half PPR, McBride, Bowers, Loveland, Warren, Pitts. So I've flipped the two tiers. I go Bowers McBride. Then I go Warren Loveland. Same four, slightly different order.

My number five is Harold Fanon Jr. I got Fanon at six. Warren and Loveland are two points apart. I think in a full PPR I have Warren ahead. So I have those very, very close. And I've got pits down at 10. All right. We'll take a break.

We'll do some mailbag. Did you say producer? The one that... I think the one that left the mute button on your board is the one doing mailbag. Mailbag. Mail bag. Okay. Any regrets there, Andy?

Didn't he do? Yeah, you just made me do it on the podcast. You did much better on the footcast. I'll be honest. Today I thought there was no chance it would be me again, so I was very unprepared. Good. I got what I wanted. Great work.

The people didn't. All right. we'll jump into a voicemail question. If you have a question for the podcast, we're here to help you out. Go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click that submit a question button. Or you can dial the voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. Leave us a voicemail message.

It's even better if you leave us a message and you mess up. Oh, yeah. And then you have to call back and leave a second one. Remember that time that someone did that? They messed up. And then Brooks played it? Put it in. That is a risk.

To just bodybag him. And that the craziest thing. Is it that is, if you would have said who would have done that? Brooks would have been the, we have like 12 people here. He would have been my 70th pick. I couldn't believe it. He wanted to sell somebody down the river. I love it.

You know what? I love donking on these guys, but we have the best freaking staff and producers in the world. Owl and Papa Josh. I'll even allow the Falcon to be set amongst them. Brooks and Kyle and. That's like, goodness gracious, you guys are awesome. We're very, very fortunate. Oh, that was gross.

But you will be doing the mailbag anytime you give him the mute button. Voice mail question to kick it off. Hello, how you doing? I was just wondering, when should I draft Jeremiah Love? Thank you so much for listening. Okay, bye. You should be a great question. That was a different answer.

Jason quickly went to you, you shouldn't. I think it's a great question because part of our conversation on Thursday is going to be about overreactions in the fantasy football world. And my, I'll save most of my answer for then, but one of my overreactions is the way that we view teams, the psychological effect of how stinky they are to our eyeballs and how talent does traditionally win out in those situations. I don't have Jeremiah Love ranked wildly high. I have them below ADP.

I have them a 14. So I guess you shouldn't. is basically our answer because we have them ranked below ADP. Yeah, ADP is really what this comes down to. The average draft price is whether or not, because, like, Jeremiah loves super talented. Nobody here, like, I hate that the Cardinals picked him and he shouldn't be the number three overall pick and all that.

Dude's awesome. He is great, and talent wins out. So if you want to draft him and hope for the best, that's great. Last year, Ash and Genti was my bust pick on the ICE episode. and the reason was because he was being overdrafted. He was at the back of the first round. He finished as... What running back was he? Do you remember?

I want to say like six? At least right now, I don't think... I think some people are going to learn from that. I think, I think Jeremiah Love is going to be more like RB12. Right now he's being drafted a round there, RB12 or 13 near the back of the second round. So not as bad as Gentie at the back of the first last year. But also, he is... Gentie was going into a situation where he had no competition for touches,

whereas Jeremiah Love is coming into a place where they just signed Tyler Algier. They're not going to not give him the ball. He's going to vulture touchdowns. James Connor, who was the captain of this team last year, just had his contract restructured. So it won't be as clear a path for him. And so it's just a matter of where he's drafted. I believe he's going to be drafted higher than where he finishes.

And so in the end, I mean, that's really all that matters. Ashen Genty finished as the running back 12 last year. That's great, except everyone felt like he. he was a bust if you drafted him. I think the hardest part will be not, like, it's not going to be hard for me to take James Cook and John the Taylor and Devon A. Chan, even Hampton with that offense over love. I think the hardest part will be Giovante Williams and Jeremiah Love. When you get, or Kyron Williams.

Buckie Irving, Cam Scataboo. I'm looking at the guys that I've got ranked right around him where I could, I could easily say, it's just more fun having the rookie. I could absolutely say, you know what, Cam Scataboo, who I love. He's got his own questions. I'm not taking a guy coming off of an injury over a guy who was the number three pick. Bucky Irving, who was great a couple years ago and had a down injured year undersized. You can easily make the argument for why Jeremiah Love should be taken over any one of those players.

But when I stat them out and I just look at the competition, the offense, the projected total touchdowns for this team, and then the fact that you have three backs that will be involved. that is not great for the fantasy outlook. Instagram question coming in from Casolomi says, how many leagues are you guys in? Come on, please tell the truth. I think we are in like four leagues that we really,

really, really, really care about. And then we are usually in a handful of leagues that we hate. He said to tell the truth. Yeah, I think like seven or eight total leagues. Yeah, probably about there. Not counting like basketball or things like that. But we've always, since the beginning of the show, we've talked about trying to keep that number low, you need to have investment. Like the best way that we can give advice to you and share what we do in our leagues is to have the same level of investment that you do in your leagues.

I know a lot of you are in more than eight leagues, but you also have a couple in the back of your mind that you're like, if I win that league, that's the big one. And so we have our league of record, which is going into the 20th season this year. We have a dynasty league that we care a lot about. that's a similar group of people for a long term. We have our listener league, which is one of our big leagues. Obviously, that's the one we just gave away a listener spot or a league spot too. Those are kind of the big ones. And then we have a handful of other ones that we're in.

But we try to keep it, try to keep it as low as possible. I feel like every year we're sitting around going like, man, I've got to get out of a couple of weeks. What happens for me is I go through like a two-year cycle. So you balloon up? Yeah. And so I cut down after this last season. and I was like, Dad, I just didn't care about some of these. So I cut a couple of them.

And so this year that I'm coming to is like, I'm going to be real clean. I'm going to not have too many, which means next year I'm going to be like, oh, I need to add a new league or three. Might I make a suggestion to you? Sure. As a man who cut his leagues down last year, but in the main leagues, it was more of a rebuilder. Yeah. Didn't have a great time.

Ah, so you're saying this is, because I am going to be a rebuilder this year. Yeah. You might want a couple leagues or you're really riding high on the hog. Bad timing to cut down. Ahmaud writes in. It's a good question. 105 pick and a rookie draft. Would you rather have Judarian Price or Mackay Lemon?

This we brought up briefly on the show, I think, last week. This is the exact spot of the draft, the rookie draft, where I'm making this decision perfectly based on whether I need running back or wide receiver. I do not think that the pick on either side of this is wrong if you're picking for your need here. I look at price as a great asset. I look at Lemon as a great asset. That is my take on the matter. I would agree in principle that if you have a dire need at one of those positions, you should take that one because this is close enough.

It's not the same mistake that is often made when you need a running back. It's so common at the back of the first round for most teams to be like, I need a running back. And so I'm going to reach on this day three running back over a second round, wide receiver. Like, don't do that. This isn't that case. These are two good assets. If I'm fine at both positions or needy at both positions, I would take McCleman. I think that's right. Yeah, like, I'm not taking price over Tyson. I'm not taking price over Tate, you know. But here I would make that call, and if it's neutral, I'm with you. I would go

with the wide receiver. I think it's the best decision you can make in a Dynasty League. It is. He said the 105? Yeah. I don't know who that fifth player is. Am I counten wrong? I feel like you got love at the one and then the next. Tate, Tyson. Yeah, maybe it's Superflex and Mendoza's in there. Yeah, that's possible. How, oh boy, Matt writing in.

You guys have been talking about golf recently, but you have never shared your scores. Hold on, hit that mute button. Yeah, tell us about your score. Andy, okay, well, let's listen and now you can come back. All right. Jason, go ahead and share your. Okay, let me hold my button.

There we go. Jason's sharing his score. And you're honestly sharing it. I mean... Okay. That's how we did. We didn't say how many holes the course was. Shout out to... Everyone? Everyone. People are loving that we're getting into golf, or at least the golf lovers, they're loving it. We have received several packages of golf related materials, all of which will make us the same skill...

Just as bad as ever. But we will now look about... better, so a more better style. Which is important. That's what you can control. We've got hats that have come in. We've got ball markers that are. Literally right before walking in here.

I know. I just, someone sent me. Something you needed. A real nice putter. Dude, that's amazing. Thank you. Well, because your other ones over there on the back wall and it's not fully

formed. No, it's just a piece of a putter. Did you guys even know that back there? No. You just got a putter in the mail. What kind? I don't know. I opened it like right and there's like oh we got a record.

He's like I got a new putter. That's awesome. Yeah. So awesome. And we are open to other potential donations. Oh, so open. Into our golf game that will make us maybe. I've heard great things about custom fittings.

I've heard great things about that. So we are open. We have room in that. We're open to a golf simulator. To letting you outfit us. I mean, I have no need for an actual motor. golf cart, but I also do, you know what I mean? Well, could you drive it if you

had one? Yes, I could. Could you drive it if you didn't have one? No. No, I couldn't. Sounds like you need one. No, but shout out to everybody that's in us some goodies in the golf world. It is I mean, we can end the show with diatribs on golf. Oh my gosh, that is a very

big market. Yes. I know golf is like big. It's been around for hundreds of years. It's like, once you start getting into it, you're like, oh my goodness. Those, uh, the advertisements you receive on your computer and in your Instagram. It is so much more expensive than pickleball.

Oh, yeah, you have been in it, right? I mean, are you getting better? I'm working on it. I'm taking steps towards getting better. This morning, Al Borland learned that the golf clubs he had purchased, uh, his, I mean, they were used off of like marketplace or off for up. Yep. He learned this morning that they were fitted for a six foot three man.

And how tall are you all? Jason and I are both like 5'9. No, no, you're 5'9. So that's not good, right, for you to be swinging like clubs for me? Apparently not. Clubs for men, you need clubs for boys. Yeah. Okay.

Which one do you, if you go to Top Golf, do you grab the shorter ones? Do you grab the ones on the right? Probably. He brings a putter to the actual court. This turned really bad for him. You were complimenting him, though, earlier. Great producers. Yeah, they are good producers.

Not a good golfer. Of which I am not either. I went to the range this morning. Oh, you did not. I did not. I did. And let me tell you, I hit some of the best balls I have ever hit in my life. And then I can just miss it.

Oh, just a full miss. Just full miss, top it. I mean, there is, why can't the body do the same thing twice? I'm doing everything top to bottom the same, and the result is asininely different. In my head, when I mess up on the range, I assume all 17 other men out there are watching you. They turn to watch that swing. I mean, and I feel like I had to make up some excuse that's like, oh, man, now my foot slips.

My clubs are two inches too long. I had one this morning where I swung very hard at a ball that I mean, I don't usually just miss. I don't usually just full miss, but I full missed it did like a spin. It was like, man, I hope someone wasn't watching that one. You have to act like it was a practice. Oh, yeah, for sure. I wasn't ready for the real shot. I literally put that club immediately in my bag. Al, you have to tell, you have to tell your range story. We'll end on this, but Al, you have to tell your range story about what you did to the man next to you at the driving range. I wish I could tell it in a way. I don't even know what happened, but all, all I know is that I took a swing at a

golf ball. And I thought I was aimed down range, as you should be. And there was as they sick. On the driving range, there's these, you know, the bays or the stalls. And the one next to me was completely empty. And the one next to that had another man. It wasn't right next to you? No, no.

Get out of here. This is even better. And somehow my club path sent the ball. I don't even know where the ball went. It went somewhere down range, but not straight. But the biggest pile of dirt and divot straight to. this man's face that was two stalls over. Impossible. He was

mid swing. So he was in his back swing and I just showered him in dirt and grass. Oh. And he was very understanding. But if you're listening out there, which you're probably not, I'm sorry. You showered a guy two bays over. I believe he said

it happens to the best of us. He's like, no. No one doesn't. That's what he said to you. That's nice. I said I'm so sorry. He said it's all right. And then he went to the bathroom to clean on. He moved over Bristol. Oh, my goodness. Oh, man. That would have been great. No, don't worry about it. I'm going to... I was leaving anyways. All right. We're going to say goodbye for today's episode of the show. I believe Mike will be back on Thursday and we will get into our overreaction episode. Appreciate you listening. We'll be back then. See you.

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