Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Playoff Push! Week 14 Start/Sit + The Ballers Fix Football - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/3

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Dec 3, 2025. Get ready for Week 14 fantasy football! Toughest start/sit decisions and player confidence levels on today’s show. Plus, backup waiver wire options, injury upd...ates, and a Thursday Night Preview! One week until the fantasy football playoffs! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(06:30) Backup Options(10:45) NFL News(16:15) Thursday Night Breakdown: Cowboys at Lions(28:15) Mailbag(28:40) Rome Odunze or Brian Thomas Jr.|(31:15) Rome Odunze or Kyle Monangai?(33:45) Lamar Jackson outlook(36:20) Drop Jordan Addison or Troy Franklin?(37:40) Eagles offense outlook(41:40) What is that switch by Mike’s foot?(42:20) Jayden Daniels outlook(44:15) Playoff lineup ethics(46:45) Trade deadlinesConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. It's a wacky Wednesday, everybody, December 3rd, the fantasy footballers podcast, Mike, the fantasy hitman, the fantasy do-no-wrong-man, Jason Moore, the hanging on for dear life. There's been plenty of wrong man. I had to buy my way out of some wrong decisions. Yeah, but you did. And I'm Andy Holloway. welcome, man. We got all three of the deucers in the house, two of them fighting like cats and dogs, Papa Josh and the falcon, always at each other's throats, just like siblings.
Starting point is 00:01:10 They are the weirdest old married couple. I mean, they get along, like, water and oil, and they absolutely love each other. They love hating each other. Deep down, you love each other. And Al Borland's just, you know, he's just out of that. I'm just babysitting back here. I mean, Papa Josh, if I make a perfect stranger's reference, you would understand that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I bet the Falcon will not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:38 It's a sitcom from the mid-80s. Yep. Yep. My goodness. Welcome in one and all. It is getting ready for week 14 time. Fantasy playoffs right around the corner. We'll see if Mike can really do no wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:53 If Isaac Tislaw on Thursday, if Tislau has a two touchdown night. on Thursday. Mike, the good news is that Mike can't, at that point he won't be able to win all the championships in the leagues because he will have ascended into another plane. No, I will. His teams will be unmanned. I call dibs on your team. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I call dibs on the other one. But the, like the third dimension, I'll be gone. Yeah, he will. I will be, can you enter the Tesseract? I don't even know how that works. But we'll find it, we will find out on Thursday should Isaac Tesla have a multi-touchdown game. I mean, everything is just working out well. you've got a bye week built in for Christian McCaffrey
Starting point is 00:02:32 so we can't get hurt before the playoffs. Oh, it's great. For most. I'm sorry if you need McCaffrey this week. No, I mean, you probably don't if you have them. And that's been the amazing thing. But we've got, what are we got today? We've got some mailbag we're going to dive into.
Starting point is 00:02:48 We'll do some backup options. We'll talk about some NFL news. We've got a Thursday night game where Mike will talk about Isaac to Slaw. I'll talk about James and Williams. And Jason... I'll talk about the playoff implications. It's a massively important game. Yeah, I just thought maybe you'd be spinning most of this show
Starting point is 00:03:06 doing advanced math on scenarios of whether you win or lose games and who your opponent will be. And, you know, we have... I locked up the playoffs last week. Yeah. As we talked about, I will be doing nothing this week. You're just taking it off. I am taking a big breather.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Now, we do have a bit of a problem in our leagues. And those listening out there, maybe you do it one way or another way. you were not, I think you were in the middle of doing the dynasty show yesterday, Jason, and Mike and I were just examining a couple of leagues. And we realized that in our league of record, we reseed the playoffs after round one. And so it is. As should be done. I think it is the right way to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:45 That's what sports do. That's what proper tournaments do. If you're the number one seed and then someone pulls an upset and they're a lower seed, you should have to get to face them. But our other main league, our dynasty league, we don't do that. we should put that to a vote and it's going to really cost Mike this year it's because I will vote no
Starting point is 00:04:04 because we have a division leader that's like six I will vote yes which one is better for me that's how I'll vote no matter so you're in your bracket where you're our our bracket is three people from our division is that's how it's worked out
Starting point is 00:04:21 the three well no I'm sorry Jeremy I won't say the three strongest teams your team is in there What? I didn't want to say the three strongest teams and the Jeremy very complimentary. Yeah, the tone. Don't worry about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But I play either you or Troy's team. Okay. No matter what. And the division winning. That sucks. And Brooks plays. I just knocked to a tongue of a little way off the desk. Just so left hand punched him off the desk.
Starting point is 00:04:50 The point of that story is, yeah, we should be receding immediately. Yeah. And I think we did change to this. that at one point in League of Record. It wasn't that way by default. I don't think they do that by default. Yeah, the Tua statue has a concussion. For sure. But let's
Starting point is 00:05:05 get into things. The Megalobole leader right now, Alan, the Hips. That's the first time I've heard that name atop the megalable. Wow. Megalable leader, Alan, all caps, the hips. The Hips. The Hips is a great nickname. The hips? If you call me the hips? As in like your body part or like your hip? You don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:25 You don't know. I could be hip. I could have hips that don't lie. You should run through the Meglabel playoffs for the people at home. Yeah. So if you are in the top six in your Megalibol league, you will make, after this week, you will go into the playoffs. You no longer have a head-to-head matchup on the sleeper platform.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Basically, you can look at the standings at megalobole.com. And then the way it works is just score more than half of people and you're on to the next week. do it again and you're on to the final week and then you've got to score the most to be the winner and play with us in the listener league next year. It's going to be fun. We are right there. We have
Starting point is 00:06:06 what else do we have? I guess we should remind people. We mentioned it yesterday. If you do need a trophy, a ring, a belt for your league, fantasychamps.com has the highest quality best products for the champions out there and you can use the code ballers to save some money on those. So if you need them,
Starting point is 00:06:22 every year there's new trophies, new rings, all that stuff. Fantasychamps.com to check that out. Let's go ahead and jump right in. Backup options presented by progressive insurance. Waivers have gone through in your league. We've got some backup options. Some players may be beneath the waiver pickups that might be worth grabbing, stashing, keeping an eye on just in case they can be those bottom of the barrel
Starting point is 00:07:00 league winners. That happens every year. And I'm throwing Ollie Gordon's name out there for the Dolphins. They have the second best running back strength of schedule heading into the playoffs. If you're smart, you're the A-chan manager, you have Ollie Gordon on your team. But he's, I think, a good player. I think if Ollie Gordon had more opportunities, because he's had fantasy relevant games even with A-chan this year. Miami's number one in the league in rush rate right now. Yeah, I was going to say, Tua is not throwing the ball a ton. I mean, over the last, you had a blip
Starting point is 00:07:33 and where they were getting blown out by Baltimore where he threw the ball 40 times. But the past three games, 23 attempts, 20 and 21. There's a world where, because committee backs get started, right? Chris Rodriguez has kind of been a committee, right? We have Michael Carter's been started in leagues. I think Ollie Gordon is in that conversation because the matchups are that good and they should be,
Starting point is 00:07:52 really competing in these games. The playoffs, it's Pittsburgh and the first one, but then Cincinnati, who gives up nine more points than expectation to running backs and then Tampa Bay, something to pay attention to a name we've barely mentioned this year. Yeah, it's a great name to bring up because he is talented. He is good. He's a monster of a man.
Starting point is 00:08:11 He's 6-2-25 and only 21 years old. A little Latavius Murray vibes to me. Sure. Yeah, and honestly, two years ago, Ollie Gordon was thought to be a like a borderline first round NFL draft pick. He was the hotness, had a disappointing senior year. But he's looked good.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So I think that's a great name to bring up because A. Chan is undersized and he's getting worked like crazy. If he goes down, he'll be an important name. The name I'm going to bring up another insurance running back who I can't believe is getting dropped everywhere. I know it's you got to drop who you got to drop. But I saw Emmanuel Wilson on the most drop. I would love if Emmanuel Wilson was dropped in our league.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm the Josh Jacobs manager. Yeah. He's already been dealing with injuries that are kind of lingering. Like, Josh Jacobs scares me. He could limp off at any moment. And you already saw Emmanuel Wilson be the guy without Josh Jacobs. Have a multi-touchdown game. He was the running back two in fantasy that week.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So, yeah, I mean, don't drop Emmanuel Wilson. If he is dropped, pick him up, scoop him up. Yeah, makes sense. And he's back because he was my backup option last week. I'm going with Andre Yoshivash. Yeah, you messed that up. Yeah, I really did. I apologize, Yoshi.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And I know that Tinsley was kind of the story of he was getting targeted a ton. He had nine targets. Tinsley could be a super deep backup option as well. I'm bringing him up just because the T. Higgins News isn't good yet for clearing concussion protocol. Seems like we're trending for another week without him. And with Joe Burrow back, there are fantasy points to go around just to lay it out a little bit more. Yoshi only had the two targets.
Starting point is 00:09:58 He came through with the touchdown, so everything was okay if you played him last week. But he was on the field for 94% of the snaps, 88% of the routes, while Tinsley was at 60% of the routes. He had the touchdown. The ball just happened to go to Tinsley a lot. It was not effective. But both of these guys, depending on the size of your league, I think are in play. this week against Buffalo, if you're, if you missed out on the wide receivers you needed from the waiver wire, these guys should be in a, in a higher scoring game.
Starting point is 00:10:30 If the Bengals. 52.5 point over, under. Yeah. Good. It's gracious. If the Bengals go down this year and they don't make the playoffs, they're going down with Joe Burrow. Yeah. And so I like it. That was backup option sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com. Let's talk news. News and notes from Around the League, presented by progressive insurance. Maybe we need to get Papa Josh and Falcons some counseling. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:58 No way. To talk through it, to deal with it. No way. The electricity is good for the office. Yeah, you don't want things too chummy around here. Too comfortable. No way. The Buccaneers are expected to open the 21-day window for both Mike Evans and Jalen McMillan
Starting point is 00:11:11 and both are expected to practice this week. It is ahead of schedule for Mike Evans with the collarbone expectations, but he's a dog. Yeah. This is wild, man. If you, if they really have all the wide receiver weapons for Baker to close out the season, it could be wild. Does that scare you for a buca? Big time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. The vibes with Abuca are so weird right now because he was so effective with Evans. So there's that part of you that's like, oh, this would be great. You know, you have... But that was Sands Godwin. Yeah, they had no Godwin. But then you look and say, well, these targets are amazing, 11, 9, 10. And you're like, oh, I want that to continue, but that's turned into low efficiency, 30 plus percent catch rate.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And so, yeah, I think ultimately it's what you believe about the talent. Abuka's a great talent. He's a great player. I don't know if he's still in the lead in terms of receiving yards for the wide receiver position as a rookie. It's probably closed with Teteroa at this point. but, you know, I guess I'm mostly neutral and a little bit worried in general. Amarion Hampton expected to return this week against the Eagles on Monday. It is a bit of a scary start to me.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You go into Monday night. Yeah. Hampton, Eagles. Kamani Vidal's been good. There's no way you give him a full workload. But we saw this past week. We weren't expecting a full workload for Bucky Irving. and he ends up with a touchdown that guy called back
Starting point is 00:12:41 and then another touchdown later in the game. Do it, Buck, he looked back. He looked like a guy whose body was well a while ago. Yes, yeah. I think Hampton is going to be a really interesting, like, start-sit decision. People are going to get them back and they're going to go, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And I think in most situations, feel like I would rather wait a week. Oh, really? I was going to say, I feel like in a lot of situations I'm just going to play in. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is all depending on your options. We also had word that, and you've kind of seen this with the Blake quorum utilization,
Starting point is 00:13:13 but Michael Thor said the team wants Kyron Williams fresh for the NFL playoffs. Yeah. You don't want to hear that right before your fantasy playoffs. One of the fun things about the Ducer's constant spats is that they're co-managers of a fantasy team. And so that team has Kyron Williams. So you don't like that news, do you? Papa Josh? Just shake your head on our audio podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I can't handle another injury to our team. And hold on, let me check this. Falcon, do you like that news? No, I hate it. Okay, so now you have common ground. This is why they're good news. You both hate that that's going to knock you out of the playoffs. The, uh, it don't want to miss the news, the Tyrone Tracy injury.
Starting point is 00:13:50 He's saying he suffered a hip contusion in a stinger, so he expects to be fine. Is this true that the Steelers signed Adam Thielen? Yes. Oh, you missed that? Yeah. Did you not see, um, oh my gosh, that is crazy. Well, Aaron Rogers needed someone to relate to. This, uh, nice.
Starting point is 00:14:07 What is the, um, Why is the name... What podcast did we go on a couple years ago with the linemen that hosts the show? I feel terrible not remembering the name right now. Long? Yes. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:20 What's the name of that show? Now I can't think about it. Is Chris Long's podcast? Is it Go Long? On the Chris Long podcast, which... Looks like Greenlight with... Yes, yes, that's it. I said green. I knew it had green.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Yeah, yeah. Great podcast, great host. They do a lot of amazing work. work. They just had a podcast a couple days ago where they were joking about Mike Tomlin where he's like, Mike Tom is the kind of guy that would say, you know, you can't, you need a, you need a spoon to eat soup, not a fork, as in like you need better players to eat the soup and then would go sign a 2018 pro bowler. And then they joked about it being Adam Thielen because he's a 2018 pro bowler and then they sign Adam Thiele. Yeah, that's funny. You're not,
Starting point is 00:15:08 You don't have Big Ben anymore, buddy. At the same time, I feel like there's a good signing for the Steelers. Like, they need another legitimate wide receiver, and Adam Thielen is no pro bowler anymore, but you actually, I mean, I think this matters not. Compared to, yeah, I would agree with that. It's not pushing Aaron Rogers over the top, and it's not making Adam Thielen a relevant play, but it's, it is good for the Steelers. I mean, they just, they don't have quality wide receivers there. I'm not sure Adam is that anymore. This is his final season, too.
Starting point is 00:15:40 He said that. That was News & Note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance, quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll jump into the Thursday night preview.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Is Adam feeling the kind of guy that's going to free D. No. No. No. No. Okay. All right. We do have a pretty fun, pretty exciting.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Better not let us down Thursday night game. Thursday night breakdown. Dallas, 6, 5, and 1, Detroit, 7 and 5. That's wild. I mean, if Dallas wins the ball game, they have a better record than Detroit. If Dallas wins the ball game. The Lions have a 12% chance at making the playoffs. What?
Starting point is 00:16:40 A 12% chance of making the playoffs if Dallas wins. Is that just based on the record? Because it's like you don't know what's going to happen with the rest of the games. Those are like those projections based on the lines for the rest of the season for every matchup around the league. That's crazy. Well, it is. So if they win, they have still only a 45% chance of making the play. Like the lions are up against it right now.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah, because of the division. What's the schedule? It's got to be divisional games too, right, at the rest of the schedule? That's wild. They play Dallas, then the Rams, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Chicago. So that's wild because I feel like
Starting point is 00:17:21 if Chicago loses this week, they go from the 1C to the 7th scene. And then suddenly Chicago, that game, I mean, that week 18 game could be a playoff spot between Chicago and the I'll bet it is. I'll bet it is. And that game is in Chicago. Three of the next five games for the Lions are on the road as well.
Starting point is 00:17:40 So this is a crucial must-win game for both. Detroit three-point favorites at home. Over Under is, I'm going to just say it. 55! You round up, 54 and a half. That's insane. It opened at 52 and a half. They are expecting big offensive performances.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I will say this. The Detroit offensive line, is hurting right now. So far, Graham Glasgow, limited participant in practice. Their left tackle, Taylor Decker, didn't practice on Tuesday. Penaise Sewell didn't practice. Their left guard went to the IR. And then Frank Ragnow, they brought him back.
Starting point is 00:18:24 You know, from retirement with too bad of a hamstring. So, yeah, I mean, man. And that's like always been the strength of this version. of the Lions is their offensive line so well if there's a defense that can overcome the other teams offensive line not being good enough and still give up points as Dallas yeah they've been a lot better against the run in recent weeks ninth in the last six weeks against the run but still 31st against quarterbacks 32nd against wideouts of which they have maintained that throughout the entire season that's exciting and guess what the lions are the same they can't play
Starting point is 00:19:01 defense against quarterbacks and wide receivers they give up a ton of fancy points This is magic. If you need to win this week, you want a player in this game. Yeah, it's a little sad that this game isn't next week for me because the DAC CD stack is going to be fired. I would be feeling that way too. I'd be very excited about that. So DAC, Giovante, Lamb and Pickens, yeah, play them all.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Jared Goff, basically my favorite, like, start of the week. Gibbs? I mean, Monry, we don't think he'll be out there. Monty is in play. I know that the Cowboys are, you know, not giving up a ton of points to the running back position right now, but it's in such a high-scoring game with the amount of touchdowns. It doesn't make you nervous? Oh, I mean, I'm not like, yes, I got Montgomery to play compared to the other players in this game.
Starting point is 00:19:58 But, I mean, at this point, Montgomery already had a level on your fantasy roster, where he's, you know, you look at him. You're like, he's a running back three type of a guy based on the right matchup. I can play him. And this is one of them. The Dan Campbell quote on Amman Ross St. Brown, if he can play, he'll play. Yeah, that's usually how that works. Thanks, Dan.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah, his quote himself, he said, I'm not sure right now if I'm being honest. It's a short week. It's still up in the air. This team, the only thing that could talk you into it is the idea of what you just said, the fact if they lose this game at home, their playoff odds become very challenging. Because if this was any other scenario where they felt more comfortable, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:20:44 goodness, give them the 10 days. I don't think he'll be out there. I don't think he can get there. And I think if they need to close the season, four more games the right way, they're going to want them out there for those, for that shot to make it. So if he's not out there, Jameson Williams,
Starting point is 00:20:57 I mean, since week six, he's the wide receiver 10 in total fantasy points. That includes two gooses. That's incredible. That is the most Jameson-Williams stat of all time. He's had two gooses, but along that stretch, he is the wide receiver 10. I mean, the option to go nuclear is here. He is a must-start.
Starting point is 00:21:18 There's no league. I mean, I don't think that you could possibly have like three other wide receivers. You could play ahead of them. No, not for this week. And then Isaac Tisla, if Amun Ra is out, I think Tisla, oh, gosh. it's like torture it makes me feel like my hair on my arms is standing up
Starting point is 00:21:37 what did they use to do for people with like mental illness the shock therapy that's what that feels like yeah I feel like my brain is being reprogrammed to agree with your takes more it I I love the player he's it's so much fun the big plays
Starting point is 00:21:53 the targets honestly have they've not been there really ever for for Tesla in his if you go back to college not a big target earner this year even when he's on the field really not getting targets he gives you spectacular catches so the i think we said it right on the waiver show the floor for tess law is zero the ceiling for him is 80 plus yards and two touchdowns like that's not an impossibility so i like one a little alec pierce day from him right i'm playing him almost everywhere
Starting point is 00:22:28 that I have him. You play him over Jefferson? Oh, man. Stop, stop it. No, you wouldn't play him over Jefferson. Yes, he might score more points than Jefferson. I would probably play him over Jefferson. Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Dude. Nah. And a 54.5 point over under with no Amun Ra at home. The floor for Jefferson is below the floor. It's the basement. Here's the floor for Jefferson. 1.4, which she just did. Yeah, well, you just said that the floor for Tesla was zero.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah, but that's less than one point. Okay, okay, that compare, sure, floors. What's the ceiling for Justin Jefferson? Oh, it's still pretty high probably. Yeah, it might be, it might be smartest thing. The Washington matchup is a good get right matchup right now for Justin Jefferson. Okay. Yeah, for him, not for Jay-J McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm going to go, JJ. Okay. the the the the Justin Jefferson and the Lamar Jackson questions are impossible yeah I mean somewhere someone out there had both and thought they were going to win in I really I totally understand the avenue the game this environment the missing Ammon Ra Tesla is in play if I had like Xavier worthy or Tesla I'm playing Tesla okay but I don't think I'm going to move him in ahead of you know wide receivers with more experience. He's got six catches in his career. I do worry about Monty in this game. I really do. I've been so impressed with the run defense by Dallas in recent weeks.
Starting point is 00:24:05 If this is going to be one of those games that it looks like, you know, high-scoring affair, you don't have control. The offensive line is beat up. I'm just going to throw my two cents out there that I'm... You didn't get a little bit of hope last week that Monty looked okay against Green Bay. There's always hope he's going to score. But, I mean, he was still the running back 20. on the week.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Oh, yeah. So, I mean, but that's what I mean. 32 yards in a touchdown. So 32 yards. I have hope he'll get 32 yards. But if he doesn't score and they need to lean on Gibbs and get him out in space because the defensive line is, is moving this offensive line that's beat up. I just think the floor is really low.
Starting point is 00:24:43 That's all. I would agree with that. I also think it's worth throwing the name out there for, you know, if you're in deep leagues, Khalif Raymond is not, you know, if Amin Ra is not there, we're excited about Tesla he's the exciting big bodied rookie who can make highlight catches but Khalif Raymond will be on the field a lot we've been playing Parker Washington he's been rolled out yeah he is like this is he not playing no he's out holy Tesla let's redo that let's redo that take who I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:25:13 my point is he'll be out there whoever the third wide receiver is is going to matter I don't care who it is well Tesla was out there for every snap last year yeah so who is the third wide receiver exactly Tom Kennedy exactly You don't, I mean, we don't. Tislaw will matter in this game if Amman Ra is out. He will 100% matter. But it might matter to the tune of two for 45 and no touchdowns. That could be the game.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yes. And yes. Tom Kennedy, I think, is an actual person. Is he one of the Kennedys? He could be. He has to be. Yeah, there's only one family with that name. Man, would you play Tesla over O'Donze?
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah. Again, this is all predicated on no Amman Ra, but of course. Yeah. I think I would. Holy moly. This is a wide. You have no Loporta. You have no Alman Rock.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You have no Clef Raymond. You have to score 30 points in this game. You have to throw. You have to throw. Wow. I mean, I'm seeing a picture of Tom Kennedy. I don't know if it's real. Jeez, Louise. The American television host from the 50s?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Is that who starting? Isaac Tesla or Michael Pittman. I just want to see how high we can go with Tesla here. Let's not get crazy. I'd play Pittman. Yeah, let's not get crazy. That's the line. Alec Pierce?
Starting point is 00:26:29 No, I'd play Pierce. Pierce, for sure. D.K. Against Baltimore. I would think about to Sloth. I would play Tislaw. I think that's where it starts getting fuzzy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I got to move him up in my rankings. He was not there. Jake Ferguson, how are you feeling right now about Jake Ferguson? Okay? Yeah, I think you, yeah. That really describes it the best. It's okay. you know tied in 80 26 7 9 and 20 so it wasn't the glory days of no cd lamb it's it's changed a lot
Starting point is 00:27:00 i think you could probably i'd be much happier with the waller strange loveland pits than i would ferguson right now loveland or or ferguson i think is a tough that one's close yeah that one's close but the other names yeah britt and stranger jake ferguson is one of our most popular start sit decisions we have britt and strange higher so um By a few spots. Well, Mike, it's only one spot higher. That's really close to me. Because of just getting pieces into this game.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah. To be fair, the Jacksonville indie game might be another one that you want pieces in. That's a 47.5. That's pretty good. Yeah, okay. I agree. And indie is not very good against Titans. So that's a really tough call. What's your call?
Starting point is 00:27:50 You think if you had to make it today, you want the info, you want. You want Ferguson in there to get the intel on what you need early? They're in the exact same tier to me. I really like Strange this week. But the extra information, getting an early play knowing if you did good or bad, I think is probably worth it. Superman does good. Let's get into the mailbag here.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's time. Mailbag. Yeah. All right. It is week 14. Big questions on the horizon. if you have a question for the show visit the website, click the submit a question
Starting point is 00:28:27 button or dial our voicemail hotline 302-464-T-F-F-B. We've got the ever-exciting Romadunzee questions coming in on the voicemail. Hey, this is John from Cleveland. I need to win to get into the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Who do I start at Flex? Romadunze or Brian Promise? I hate both these players. I also have David Montgomery, but I feel like I need a wide receiver. Thanks. So we got Roma Dunezay. We got Brian Thompson. So Rome against Green Bay, Brian Thomas against Indy or Monty versus Dallas.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I'm going to go Brian Thomas. I've said this. Man, you got the. I think that this is a get right game for. I mean, we just talked about that matchup, 47.5 points. So it's a good matchup. There's a lot of weather issues this week. So both of these Dome games I'm very excited for.
Starting point is 00:29:21 there's going to be chilly weather and snow across the country this weekend. So I like Brian Thomas here. You've got Sauce Gardner ruled out, obviously, for the Colts. And no Parker Washington, presumably, it looks like he's going to be missing that game. So I lean that way. But obviously, Brian Thomas has had one game with 10 points. I was going to say there's one game you've been happy. That's a close one for me.
Starting point is 00:29:48 A dunes A is tough to start. I mean, both of those players, their names do more work than they've done on the field. What were, someone shared a photo in our Slack where it was, okay, I found it. So there are the projections. This was the over on underdog that John Mechie the third has a higher receiving yard projection than Rome Adunze. Yeah. And it makes. John Mechie of the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah, it makes. sense. Rome is not what we thought he was to start the year. I mean, he's still getting the targets, but the fact that he is catching fewer than, it's not. Him and Caleb are not in sync right now, catching fewer than 50% of his, you know, targets on the course of the year, very difficult to. His percentage of uncatchable targets is, is catastrophically high. Yeah, he's got too many games here recently, eight yards, 41 yards, 31 yards, 32 yards. I'm going to go with you. You're going to go.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Brian Thomas. I'm going to go BTJ. Yeah, I agree. Back to, you know, with Parker Washington's injury, back to relevance this week in a good matchup and a good situation. It could be a, it could definitely outpace that over under, I think. All right, let's, don't worry. We've got more.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Hey, ballers. Stephen here from Grand Rapids, Michigan. In a full PPR league, should I start Kyle Monongai or Roma Dunesay as my flex? I feel like Rome might be the right choice, but he's been painful lately. I mean, what you're saying? Thanks. Full PPR. I mean, Manungai or Rome with Dunezai. Menungai has been, just to highlight it, he has scored in four consecutive games.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He had 23 opportunities this past week. Yeah, but it was off the heels of 12, 13, 8. Which is innumerably more than Adunze. Full PPR. I mean, he scored double-digit. fantasy points three straight weeks even with now it's green bay it's a tough tough tough situation and a tough matchup i just are you going to bet on adunes and making a couple big big plays on green bay's defense or on monongai just slowly getting eight to ten points yeah
Starting point is 00:32:08 i mean you're it's more of a bet on just the chicago offensive line do you think that they will manhandle green bay the way that they did the philadelphia they've been doing it a lot this year. That is a really close one. The full PPR also pushes you so hard in the wide receiver direction. I guess I'll lean a Dunezay by a hair. Because
Starting point is 00:32:29 I will want, like what are the odds that Menungai gives you 20? That seems really low against Green Bay. So if you were a favorite, let me put it this way, and I'm not trying to get out of an answer. If you're a favorite, I'm playing Minangai. If you are an underdog this week, I'm playing Roma Dunstay.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Because I think that you want the opportunity. for a long touchdown for a significant play. I feel like the ceiling is higher with Monongai for just if he gets two touchdowns. I think I'm going Monongai either way. He's not done that all year. No, I know, but what we have seen right now from that offensive line, that offensive line might be the best in the league. They are on fire right now.
Starting point is 00:33:07 What they did to the Eagles last week was incredible. So Swift had a carry inside the five. He scored. Monongai had a carry inside the five he scored. So it wasn't like, I don't think you know for sure who's going to get that carry. Yeah, I'll go with the favorite versus underdog answer. Mike, which one are you going with? I know you almost escaped without a full answer.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Well, it was the next question. Oh, you had moved on. Yeah, David in New Jersey had a question, everyone. I would play Menongai. Lamar Jackson has been the next most asked about player behind Roma Dune. I told you I will not field Lamar Jackson questions. I understand this is my job. Well, what if it's a simple question like this, Mike, from Trejure on X?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Can we trust Lamar? Oh, I'll feel that. Okay. Absolutely not. Can you trust it? You can't trust Lamar. Man, it's... Because Lamar might not be able to trust part of his body.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I mean, he's not... His rushing baseline is not what it has been. says he's not injured, but he's also, I mean, we've watched, we've been while watching these Ravens games going, that's not what, like, Lamar is not even choosing to do what you're just so used to seeing him do when he's got the ability to get to the outside edge, he just kind of cuts it up and grabs three yards and falls over because it's like, he's never done that before. And I, I think there is a physical limitation. Oh, yeah, that foot has to be hurting. But I also want to point out, I mean, if,
Starting point is 00:34:43 Isaiah likely does not fumble the ball on his big breakaway touchdown. And the flowers. And the flowers, offensive passenger fears just wasn't called. I mean, you'd be going, Lamar had a great game. He has, that's 100 yards and two touchdowns on top of what he did. We just haven't been in the position where we have to have a couple things go right to not have you be six points. Should those, or if both of those plays that hit, you would be saying Lamar had an okay game. You wouldn't be saying he had a great game.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I agree, but we wouldn't be like. so terrified of Lamar. I mean, right now, if I'm looking at Lamar or Baker, I go Baker. Brissette, I'd go Brissette. Mahomes, I'd go Mahomes. But you get to an area where it's like, I don't know, Trevor Lawrence. I was going to say, the difficult line for me is when you hit Lawrence, Jacoby, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, those type of plays. Maybe you're scared off of Sam Darnold after last week.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I can understand that. But so Brissette and Trevor Lawrence. Brissette, I would play. I do feel like Lamar has earned the opportunity to, like, to trust him beyond this little run. Yeah. Because the upside can be so tremendous and they need it. But, but Brissette, I would, I feel, I feel like it'd be safe. Yeah, Brissette is just, oh, the Rams match up.
Starting point is 00:36:08 The Rams match up. Yeah. All right. We'll take a break. We'll come back with some more questions. David in New Jersey writing in. Here's that David question, Mike. Would you drop Jordan Addison or Troy Franklin to pick up defenses for the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yes. Either both. Either both. Franklin would be, oh, who's your preferred drop of the two? I would drop Addison. Yeah. I think I'd drop Troy. that's why when I said either both
Starting point is 00:36:44 I mean genuinely both like pick up a defense for week 15 pick up a second defense for week 16 like put it together put your put your scoring roster together yeah when you have I mean these guys if you drop them you can pick up Adnan Mitchell and play if you need it you know what I mean there's those guys out there that are if the same
Starting point is 00:37:00 chance of doing something Michael Wilson if he gets dropped you know there there are just guys in that tier wide receivers is the easiest place to find a dart throw based on a matchup yeah and an opportunity Jalen Coker whatever you they're all the same Tom Kennedy. Tom F. Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah. All right. It might just be peanut butter dwelly time. That's what's going to happen. We're going to get a peanut butter dwelly touchdown. Are you talking for Ross Dwelly? For the line for Detroit. That's Brock right.
Starting point is 00:37:28 It might be. What is actually wrong with the Eagles offense? Question from Dylan Hunt. They want us to diagnose this. It's a bit of everything. It is. It's a bit of everything. the offensive line play
Starting point is 00:37:43 No lane Johnson The running game not having big plays and keeping you accountable for play action The accuracy of Jalen Hertz has been not good He has missed reads and he's missed the players The locker room You know squeaky wheel Is not helpful
Starting point is 00:38:00 It doesn't help an offense like this execute If you're fading back to pass You need to feel like you can throw the ball where it needs to go You talk about missing Goddard on a wide open play You know what does that? my personal opinion, it's having somebody that angry about their targets in the locker room upset that you've got to get in more targets. You're not looking all over the field.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I mean, for me, it's offensive line because this is the, like, this is just a premier example of the, for the people who are like, hey, dude, running backs don't matter as much as we believe and we want them to matter. You have Sequin Barclay who, at least to me, maybe he doesn't look as good as last year when he was just on fire every single game. But he's still San Juan Barclay. He still has those abilities and he can't get it done based off of the blocking scheme, what's happening in front of him. They really missed DeAndre Swift. I hear what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Saying great running, even great running backs still need proper blocking schemes and good talent at the offensive line. yeah jason do you have anything to add i mean i think the scheme i think the scheme sucks as well i mean they they are bottom five in pre-snap motion uh or eight they're bottom two in in play action like i just think they're a very vanilla offense right now how how do professionals professional coaches see the success that like like the she anahan mcvays these guys who when you look at the end of the year you look who's top of the league in pre-snap motion because and play action and play action well like pre-snap motion gives you instantly more information about what the defense could possibly be running and when you don't do it you just you don't
Starting point is 00:39:53 get that information you look at it's your choice you can shoot you could choose to get that info and look at the offenses who we used to do that in flag football yes because we would move a guy in motion because we'd want to know if they're in man or not it was pretty simple sea league flag football team the top performing offenses at the end of the year go look i guarantee they're going to be at the top of the league in pre-stap motion and play action because even it like they're the i believe it's a myth the myth of well you have to have a great running game for play action to work no you don't you just have to do the play action and buy yourself a fraction of a second where the linebackers don't know if you're running the ball or not
Starting point is 00:40:36 And teams that don't do those things are easier to stop offenses. And it's so insane to me that a professional coach can look at the success of these other offenses and not steal what they're doing. I also think that you're right that Sequan is phenomenal, but he's tired. I mean, that guy's, he's not. I do think they should use tank more. They need to use tank more. They really, really do. It's so outlandish to say the words out loud that tank people,
Starting point is 00:41:06 Bigsby is better than Sequin Bartley. I'm not saying that at all. But on a on a per touch basis, he certainly is right now. Yeah. And I think it's better for their offense. Like every time he touches the ball behind that offensive line, special things happen. And right now, Sequin is somewhere like 3.7 yards of carry.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And he just doesn't look like his explosive self. And I don't blame him. The guy had a cajillion carries all the way through the Super Bowl. It's like, that's a good point. You need to give this man some rest. No, it makes sense. J.L. Mitchell, Mike, writing in on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:41:40 what is that switch next to Mike's foot? I never noticed it until this season. That's my mute button, my guy. That flushes the toilet that's built into his seat. If I got to clear the throat, if you got to, you know, cough. I don't know what Jason knows about pushing the mute button to clear his throat today.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I've been holding down mine most of the show. Because you don't want me to be like, Every once in a while the mute button is broken and we didn't know it was broken and then you hear somebody just go and then and then Al starts sweating back there. Jaden Daniels question from Eddie, are we starting
Starting point is 00:42:20 Jaden Daniels with confidence? Let's throw that up there with the Lamar Jackson playoff decisions. I mean, I agree with Andy's take earlier this week. I don't think Jaden Daniels is playing so that will make it easy. If he plays The matchup actually is rough.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Minnesota has a strong defense. The complete destruction of their offense is making things harder on the defense. But, dude, if Jayton... Still not cleared for contact. But fantasy playoffs, I mean, if you're looking at Lamar, Jaden Daniels for 15, 16, 17, is Lamar's week this week even more significant for your...
Starting point is 00:43:00 Because your fantasy playoffs are coming up. Sure. It's either four straight bad games or it's signs of life. If you get signs of life, I feel like you're going to play Lamar in your playoffs. You need to see it. But Jaden, once Jaden is back, I would play him. Yeah, he doesn't have hurt legs.
Starting point is 00:43:14 He hurt his non-throwing arm. I agree. And I will say this, if Jaden doesn't come back, which I think is completely in the cards, he just doesn't play this year, why force him back? Now, you know, if he's healthy, they'll bring him back. But Marioad has been great. And you should not discount Mario, like this week again. Minnesota in Minnesota, no. But the Giants coming up, the Cowboys in Championship Week,
Starting point is 00:43:39 like Mariotta could be winning championships for people. Good. Yeah, he just, they run enough intentional like quarterback draws with him. And he's been good enough and having Terry McLaur in there. I mean, it was Denver last week and he had a great game. Yeah, he's had, he hasn't started, he's started, what, six games here? Three times he's been a top 10. Yeah, I'm actually okay with him this week in a spot start. David Levy, he, he asked this question, I answered it on Twitter or at least somebody asked a similar one. I just want to make sure that you guys are on the same page
Starting point is 00:44:09 here. Should a team be allowed to not set their lineup to intentionally lose to get a better playoff matchup? No, no. You have to set a full lineup. That was the question. Do I have to set a legal lineup? I said yes. Yeah, I mean, so Mike has this issue
Starting point is 00:44:26 this week in the League of Record. League of Record. It helps you if you lose? No, no, no, no. He doesn't have a tight end to play. It's transitioning to do you have to play a full lineup? Gotcha. And my my bench was at the point where I didn't, I don't need to make a move. My team is very strong if I don't make a move. But George Kittle is my only tight end. And he's on by. He's on by. But it's like I got Jackson Dart is my backup quarterback for Joe Burrow. I have multiple defenses. I have Brian Robinson because I have Christian McCaffrey. And it was like,
Starting point is 00:45:00 That's tough. And it has very little consequence. Like, it affects our standings in terms of draft picks for next year. Because the team I'm playing, they're out. Like, you know, if draft picks were not. So what did you decide for your situation? You have somebody in there? I have claims in to make myself have a legal lineup.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah. It's just, it's like, it sucks because it affects so, so little. of for me to have to do this I'm forced to drop a player I don't want to drop just to put a stupid tight end for a game I don't need to win and I'm projected to win even without a tight end of my lineup
Starting point is 00:45:41 but it matters because the integrity of the league the other team that their draft pick or next year. That's as close to a situation to get me to think that it does that you're okay not to that's as close as I've ever gotten. On the flip side like my team right now aren't you a legal lineup with George Kettle in there?
Starting point is 00:46:00 yeah there's a player there how many points is it going to get I don't know can almost have no change I have to basically go oh and two another guy go two and oh and I've got to lose like 65 points he's got a gain on me for me to change seating in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:46:18 but I hope that happens because I would I would much rather play the other side of the bracket so I you know I don't love David Montgomery this week but he's in my lineup I don't love Rome but he's in my lineup. Like that's okay. Yeah, you know they're blown up for you this week. Oh, for sure. For sure. This is a four touchdown. David Montgomery. When you don't need them, these two guys are going to make you
Starting point is 00:46:40 they'll play well enough this week to make you have to think about them for playoff matches. That's what they'll do. Um, Jamie wanted to know the best time for a trade deadline. We have the day before Thanksgiving. Someone had extended. That's late. I mean, day before Thanksgiving this year is much past where our deadline was in both our other leagues. I will say that our deadlines are decently early because we are keeper leagues and we worry about trading. Yeah, I think Thanksgiving is fine. Yeah, this was a late Thanksgiving, man. It's throwing everything off.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I think a trade. It got to December too quick. A trade deadline right before week 13. I think that's fine. My wife asked for the first time ever, by the way, just to, because I know you guys are the Christmas trees before Thanksgiving people. it was like Thanksgiving break started and she's like should we put the tree up? I'm like no it's Thanksgiving like
Starting point is 00:47:33 we got to wait till after it's the first time I wish I had because the latest Thanksgiving can be was what it is this year, the 28th and so then December's there too quick I feel behind. Yeah you should I see nods from Producers Alley my guy I have for weeks
Starting point is 00:47:50 mornings got the coffee got the Christmas tree glowing I got the I got the uh Charlie Brown record. Oh, you've been doing this for weeks? Yeah. And it's great every time. We had, we hosted Thanksgiving dinner, right? We, we cooked the whole meal and look at us. And when people showed up to my house, when people showed up to my house, there was a sleigh in my front yard and deer in my
Starting point is 00:48:15 front yard and a decorated Christmas tree. Living? Yeah, we bought some deer, some reindeer, brought them in, uh, from, uh, ultimate Jason, bushy move. He's got real eyes. No, I got reindeer. Real ones. No, but it's like, yeah, you're coming to Thanksgiving on Christmas. That's what it was at my house. And what it did people, were they supportive? They were all happy. Yeah. Go figure.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I bet it brought them joy. Yeah. No, it was. They're like, what is this? What? How early is it next year? Can somebody do the research? This was just too late for me.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You're saying the time between Thanksgiving. Yes, I need the gap. What day of the month does Thanksgiving fall on next year? Because it can be as early as the 22nd and as late as the 28th. Yeah. So the fourth Thursday Yeah And I just figured
Starting point is 00:49:00 It looks pretty Similar It's the 26th Yeah so the 26 And I can live with that The two days is it A couple days to like hang the lights And stuff like that
Starting point is 00:49:10 Now I I pulled out a Advent calendar for the kids on the second That's not fun We're behind Yeah Advent calendars is day one man I know I'm this is me kind of giving you some ground here I'm not about to put everything in a dome
Starting point is 00:49:26 Don't get me wrong. All right. I'm not putting all the... Big dome, big Christmas. I'm not going big dome. That's dumb. We are actually all on the same team. We're a team retractable.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yes. We have the technology. We say team dome, but retractable roof should be every stadium. So a beautiful day. Open the roof. Okay. So you're basically, you just want the dome for bad weather. That's all, that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:48 100%. Why would you want a roof in a great environment? Well, you two, who knew? No, yeah. I just, I don't want... You guys would point at fantasy stats and how good they are in domes, and then you'd be like, let's cover it up, turn out the lights. Good football ruined.
Starting point is 00:50:02 That's all it is. Like I say, you were just sharing the Oakland Athletics. Yeah, they have kind of like a, it's a closed stadium. Like a hybrid. It's a closed stadium, but it has like massive windows and it looks kind of open. There should never be a roof on a baseball field. New proposals. Because you should ruin that.
Starting point is 00:50:20 That's not a fun product to watch. So it's like, I would rather watch the snow or the wind. Did the tuning into that, what was the Cleveland game that had the wind? Yeah. It looked miserable. Oh, it is. And that's what it makes it fun. Listen, I've got a proposal.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Retractable? No, no, no. I just need one snow game a year. Here's the plan. Everything can be in a retractable roof, but you plan one intentional game in the worst weather possible. You figure out where that's going to be. You move the teams there. you put them out there in the elements
Starting point is 00:50:55 I don't care if players are blowing away or it doesn't matter give me one game where I can have some Tomlin tough knuckle football in the mud in the snow in the rain one ton because that is fun
Starting point is 00:51:09 those highlights are fun that we have no fantasy players from and put them in that game Hall of Fame game? Cleveland New York Just have a call Well Cleveland and the Jets every year You don't have snow during the Hall of Fame No I'm just saying well let's move the Hall of Fame game
Starting point is 00:51:22 No no real football but teams we don't care about. What if it's artificial snow? Worst two records meet up in the snowball every year. Okay. Okay. There we go. Meet up in the snowball. Yeah. And that's the punishment for sucking. Yeah. You have to play in sub-zero temperatures and get frost play. Yeah. And you have to win to get the number one pick. Oh, yes. Yes, Michael. We did it, man. You just fixed football. You got to win the snow, the snowball. Win the snowball in the worst weather. We find out the day that's the worst and we move the game there. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And fans don't get to come. No, no, no, no, because there's no stadium there. We can't risk their lives. There's no, there's no stadium because we don't know where the worst weather's going to be. It's just a feel. We've got to go to wherever the worst, most remote terrible weather is. And the winner of the, the horrific snowball game, the blizzard
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