Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - QB & RB Rookie Preview + Draft Capital Concerns - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/1

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Apr 1, 2025. Incoming rookies! QB and RB rookie overview for fantasy football as the NFL Draft approaches. What is Cam Ward’s upside and outlook? Find out which running backs, besides Ashton Jeanty, could be fantasy football difference makers! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.Get the lowest price on the 2025 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Instant access to the Dynasty Pass with the UDK+(00:00)  Intro(07:50)  NFL News(21:45)  2025 Rookie Previews(22:30)  Rookie QB Previews(23:00)  Cam Ward(28:45)  Shedeur Sanders(35:35)  Jaxson Dart(39:05)  Jalen Milroe(42:15)  Rookie RB Previews(44:20)  Ashton Jeanty(49:10)  Omarion Hampton(54:30)  TreVeyon Henderson & Quinshon Judkins(01:00:40)  Kaleb Johnson & Cam SkatteboConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Ah, welcome in it's Saturday April 1st we got him we got him it's not Saturday yeah that was a goof yeah oh. Oh my gosh. Are you kidding me? Because it's April 1st? Yeah. Oh man. They were confused. That was our big joke. Wow. You thought it was Saturday. Oh man.

Bunch of people just left work early. What am I doing here? Oh boy gotcha gotcha everybody it's April and that means it's draft month yeah which means this week we are doing our rookie preview for the quarterback and running back position today and then you got Brooks. Wait Brooks probably thought he wrote Saturday oh got you Brooks yeah that joke gotcha one person got your Brooks then we're doing wide receiver tight end on Thursday so rookie previews our chance to kind of give you an overview of the key players on offense at the key positions before the draft and you know if you've been listening to the dynasty podcast and and Borg and Betts and these

two gentlemen here you've gotten the opportunity the Dynasty podcast and Borgen Betts and these two gentlemen here, you've gotten the opportunity to have some deep dives on those positions. So this is more of an overview for players maybe not playing Dynasty or just coming around to who's relevant for the NFL Draft. We'll have a chance to weigh in. And I don't know your two opinions

on quite a few of these players. I know on some. Sounds like someone doesn't listen to the Dynasty show. That is the implication there, yeah. Cause they're available. Yeah. Well, you know. You shared them all.

If you want a deeper dive, then, cause this episode we're gonna cover quarterback. The True Crime Podcast. I just gotta keep listening to True Crime. So you're saying, Mike, we should start a True Crime podcast. Then I would listen. All right.

Yeah. But yeah, this will be our overview opportunity to share our opinions on these guys. Quarterback running back today. And the draft will be here before you know it. So it's going to be fun. It's going to be exciting. And it's in Green Bay this year, which is pretty fun.

What else do we have going on? If we have extra time, we'll jump into the mailbag. We got the UDK available for pre-order at ultimatedraftkit.com. It gets you instant access to the Dynasty Pass. Lots of great content in there. Three releases of the Dynasty Pass pre-combine. That one's done, post-combine, done. Yep.

Third release will be post-draft. That's the, I guess, the second biggest one. The first release is really, really fun because it's like this huge, unrevealing of information. Like our initial rookie ranks are there. Our dynasty startup rankings are in there. And now the draft is going to change a bunch of stuff. But all three are very, very fun.

Yeah, the draft changes quite a bit. I mean, there are always players that are not necessarily on everybody's big boards that have higher draft capital. And you have to change your opinion pretty quickly on certain players. And opportunities, right? Part of the dynasty pass is the team opportunity pages. There are teams looking to fill certain spots.

That's how we perceive their depth charts, but there are teams that surprise you and draft players in complicated backfield or a wide receiver room. And I might not listen to the dynasty pod, but I am on it. That's true. This week you will be- Tomorrow.

Yeah, Mike and I are gonna be in Chicago for the podcast evolutions. We are the closing keynote, which should be fun. And so Andy, you are going to share some draft tips. We're also with you out of town hosting our first in-studio rave. Oh, really? Just me and the employees. Wait a minute.

Oh, man. Doing a big, the Deucers. I want a rave. What do you think? I'm seeing nodding over there. Big fans of the, yeah. Yeah, rave music. Look at that, look at those rave moves.

Wow, I don't think I want to be at that rave anymore. After seeing that. Seeing Josh, his head wobble. And hearing that music. It's the rave, hosted by Earth, Wind and Fire. All right, well, we'll jump in. Quick question of the day. It's something that gets asked almost every year for dynasty leagues, dynasty rookie drafts, and with us talking rookies, we might as well cover it. When starting a dynasty league, do you have a rookie draft

separate from the startup draft, or are they combined into one, Mike? So there's two answers for this. If you are brand new to Dynasty, then I would suggest have your startup draft where you know all the vets and you feel like you could properly value those players because you're going to have information. It is a jump. Things are different in Dynasty. You have to factor in more than just this season, course and then do your rookie draft but more because when you're first getting into it you just you have no true way to like how do I value rookies other than I'm just gonna go look at someone's rankings who does dynasty and they can tell me how they feel and like no let

you let yourself do the vets then do the rookies if this is your you know like if you're in multiple dynasty leagues okay put the rookies. If this is your, you know, like if you're in multiple dynasty leagues, okay, put the rookies in there and then just have one gigantic draft and then the biggest thing is if you've never done dynasty and you're fired up right now, I love it and I totally get it. I would wait until the NFL draft happens. I know it seems like forever if you're wanting to draft right now. But if you do your dynasty startup draft, these guys are on your team maybe forever.

Like that is the, like that is a potential. Like I had, I just, in our dynasty league that's been going for a decade or so, I just traded a player who, like Mike Evans, Andy, a couple years ago, I think he's on your team now, but he was on my team for eight years. Yeah. And so those are things that can happen.

But the NFL real draft can destroy your dynasty startup draft just after you have that draft going. So I advise against that if you've never played. One of the nice things if you do split it, because a lot of people when They do the startups. They'll put the rookies into it. You just you know, you draft them wherever you want You're in the fourth round you're deciding between a rookie or a vet and that's fine That works one of the things that I like though about splitting them if you are doing a new Dynasty League

Is it kind of levels the playing field? You're doing a snake draft, right? And so that there's random orders. And so the people who get the better picks, you know, that end up with Jamar Chase at the top of the draft, kind of have an advantage disproportionately because it's a dynasty league.

So what you can do is your rookie draft is gonna be the exact opposite draft order of the startup draft. So if you ended up getting the first pick in the dynasty startup veteran draft, then you've got the last pick in the first round of the rookie draft, and it kind of levels the playing field. So whoever gets the Jamar chase, the person who got the 12th pick gets Gentie. So yeah, and the only way that you can you can kind of even that out is having them separate in right in that case So alright, we'll move into some news

News and notes from around the league Really got really NFL Networks My Garofalo reports Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf had a throwing session over the weekend. It's the Rodgers saga is not over. Can I take a drug that wipes my brain of any Rodgers information at this point? Yeah, you can.

And is it a drug he supplies? It's going to take out a lot more than just Rogers. I know, I know it matters if he's the starting quarterback for Pittsburgh. I just am tired of the drag it out. Just make a decision. It really is. This is a guy who's at Blockbuster until well

after they close. Can't pick a movie, The employees want to go home. Yeah he's the guy that shows up one minute before kitchens shut down. Oh yeah. Like hey fire it up I'll take the steak. Aaron Rodgers is really truly following the footsteps of Brett Favre because this was a Favre specialty forever where every offseason he's retiring and then he comes out and then the whole offseason is about him. He's going to end up being a Steeler The fact that he's throwing with DK Metcalf new Steeler. This is just George

Where's George Pickens dynasty managers? Where's George doghouse? It'll be interesting. I mean the nice thing is the Steelers have a very good defense. They have young elite weapons They just traded for a veteran wide receiver and then you had Aaron Rodgers. What could go wrong? It's almost like this exact thing happened last year where the Jets great defense with Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall and then oh they trade for Devante Adams and they sucked so I'm sure this time It'll totally work out. Look, criticism and praise are proportional

to performance in sports. Aaron Rodgers had decades of praise. Now we're at the point where he is hand picking everything on the menu and failing with that. That's what happened in New York. It was, and then you missed an entire year. so you had all the expectations, you had all the perfect hands selected, I want my guys. You failed with those players. So it's hard. I'm gonna go in expecting you to fail now. Yeah, I mean, because you're a year older,

new franchise, new offensive coordinator, new players. It's tough because I believe in Tomlin as a very, very good coach to get the most out of his players. I mean I understand the frustration as Steelers fans because he's really hurting your franchise, keeping you good enough to always be near the playoffs or in the playoffs but you just don't have the roster to win in the playoffs and so you're in perpetual purgatory but that'll be interesting that Aaron Rodgers versus Tomlin not a stealer yet we expect him to be at some point. Since Big Ben retired just so you can remember we had Mitchell Trubisky for five games we had

Kenny Pickett we had more Kenny Pickett we had Mason Rudolph for three games we had Trubisky with two more games in 2023 we had fields and we had Russell Wilson and I think you you none of those were prolific statistical performances that helped a lot of fantasy players Roger certainly you're hoping that there's some magical resurgence yeah this does feel like what the Colts went through post Andrew Luck where and you know to be fair they are still going through it where they just don't know who their quarterback is. Yeah AI is pretty incredible. Within about 10 seconds of me making the comment about Aaron Rodgers

I'm staring at a picture of Rodgers in a blockbuster that that Matt sent over. Okay blockbusters aren't even around anymore. Did you even know that? I think the last one closed I think. I bet they thought they did though, that they were still around because April 1st. Oh, got them. They were driving down the street. This is interesting news. I actually, I'm a little worried about this. If you were a dynasty manager, I would be worried. I am a dynasty manager of James Cook. Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean, told reporters he does not see them getting anything done anytime soon with James Cook on an extension. This is how I would posture myself if I had too high of a demand from a running back. Well they tried to work out an extension.

He came out and said that they were trying to get an extension with him and that they couldn't get it done so they moved on and they went and they extended other players. That's a really bad sign for a player entering the final year of his rookie contract. He's 25 and a half, he had a great season, scored a bunch of touchdowns, should be cashing in. But he also came out, if you remember, in the media himself, instead of behind closed doors, and said, what did he want?

It was like, was it $12 million? He wanted some big number. He wants to get paid. James Cook is in a really tough situation. Great young player, obviously, who ties the Bills rushing touchdown record. But he doesn't get to play full, like they don't use him as a three down back.

He probably declares- He wanted 15 million a year in February when he pulled them off of his socials. Yeah, you're not getting 15, Mr. Cook, but like they, he probably wants to be used like a three down running back. I think he could, but the team has never used him that way. They're not going to use him that way.

So they're not going to pay him like he is that. So he's, while he wants that money, and there's teams out there that will give James Cook money to come down and be their superstar running back, but the Bills don't wanna use them, way because why? What they're doing is working. Yeah, I know they haven't won a Super Bowl, but their offense and their rushing attack

is always fantastic. And generally, you'd imagine that James Cook's best situation would be to stay here and sign a deal and be part of the system. To win, sure. Yeah. So Kyle just pulled this up last year. 43% of his fantasy points came from touchdowns.

That is scary. I mean, to be fair, he scored a lot of fantasy points. But yeah, that's something to watch. Adam Schepter came out and said that any trade talks for Brandon Ayuk would be off if he remained on the roster past today. There was also a comment this morning, or actually yesterday morning, from their general manager, John Lynch, saying he's going to be on the team this year.

So we're recording this a day early. Could be looking real stupid if there's a trade that happens between right now and tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, the last I heard on his recovery was that it's coming along well, and they expect to have him mid-season. So that's just it. his ADP right now is that's borderline undrafted. Oh I won't yeah that his ADP is ridiculous because people are still drafting Brandon Iyuk like he's gonna come in.

You know whose ADP is equally ridiculous? Joanne Jennings. Joanne Jennings is going to be a steal in the drafts, at least for the first half of the season. If it becomes formal that Iyuk is out for X amount of time, he is one of those players that you only take with a last round or a late round, and you have to throw him on your IR if you have it. And he's not draftable if you don't have an IR. Remember, it wasn't a simple ACL tear for Brandon Ayuk.

This was a knee disaster that multi ligaments, and I think to say that he's going to be back halfway through the season is, that's optimistic. And then that doesn't even include a ramp up period that we always see players with knee injuries go through. Well, don't forget, when he was playing last year, he averaged seven fantasy points a game.

It was do-do. Before the injuries. It was like, what, you're hoping you get that again? We also had some head coach quotes from the annual owners meeting, including Colts head coach Shane Steichen saying, Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson will split starting reps beginning in OTAs, and the most consistent quarterback will be the regular season starter.

Uh oh. I... What if they're consistently bad? If consistency is the only thing that matters, you'd be like, he does this every day, he throws it to the other team every day. This is... I made the comment this morning,

it was interesting, because I was kind of joking, I was like, how does a team pick the most consistent, inconsistent player to start being be inconsistent and then get replaced by the other inconsistent starter because we imagine there'll be a change at some point because they're not good quarterbacks the reality is is most people replied to that comment with like Daniel Jones is the only choice you have

like that's the sentiment that I'm seeing is you need to start Daniel Jones Daniel Jones is is a player that had success without the peripherals at times, right? He didn't have an offensive line, didn't have a lot of weapons, and still had some success sometimes. Where they looked at it the inverse, where Richardson was set up for success, couldn't succeed.

I liked the Daniel Jones signing when it first happened because I thought he was a good backup, and every team needs a backup especially one with an Anthony Richardson who's been injured his entire short career already and now you've got the mobile Daniel Jones you can run the same system. Since they have made that there what they have done is just destroy the future of their franchise. This is terrible to say that these are competing for starters. I agree. The fact that there is no human being on planet earth that needs first team reps more than Anthony

Richardson and you're coming out and saying, you know what? Right off the bat, we're going to take half of them away. What are you doing? Like you know you're not a great team with Daniel Jones. You know that. You know that Daniel Jones is not taking you to the promised land. So you're just, you know, you're cutting off your nose to spite your face because you're saying that the best case scenario now is less likely, which is you have a franchise quarterback, a star going forward.

Yeah, it's hard to argue with that. Because I do think, I think Daniel Jones will probably end up more consistent. Mm-hmm, yeah. Which means he'll be the starter, and then they will switch. And Richardson will have less reps leading into the switch,

so he will probably have less chance of success. We also got a report from the general manager of the Lions, Holmes, saying that Jameson Williams, whether they're gonna pick up his fifth year option, he said, it's heading that way. We're most likely going to be doing that. He's a tremendous player for us. Still scratching the surface.

Okay. Breece Hall, news. Oh. I'm out. Uh-oh. Jets head coach, Aaron Glenn, on Breece Hall on the New York Jets running backs. Are you leaving this studio?

Oh, he just doesn't wanna hear this. I can't hear you. He unplugged his headphones so he cannot hear this. You let me know when you're done talking. I think mentally he's in a good place, but I would say that we have three running backs on the team that we're gonna utilize as much as possible. Jason, you can plug back in.

For your commentary? Yeah, look, there are people, they've seen your very emotional reactions to Brice Hall and have said, what did I miss? What did I miss about Brice Hall? Why don't we like Brice Hall? Why can't, you know, this is a player that has had flashes. Yeah, oh, I mean, he's had more than flashes.

A couple years ago, he was the running back four. He's obviously very, very talented in the open field. He had a down year last year, was not very efficient or effective, and sometimes it looked like he was not the best back on his own team. Now the team is coming out, saying that they want to get the other guys more

involved. Honestly, if I was the head coach, I would, I would do that. I would get Braylon Allen, the ball a little bit more and split them and try to, you know, have these guys specialize where they are each best, but it's not good for the fantasy success of Breeze Hall going forward. The only thing that is good for the fantasy success of Breeze Hall going forward is I was looking up the 2026 free agents when we were talking about James Cook because let's say he doesn't get an extension, he's going to be one of the free agents. There's really not a lot of competition

next year. You got like Derrick Henry, who knows if he's going to play, if he's going to resign or whatever. But you know, 2026 Derrick Henry is not a headliner. And then you have the one year contracts this year from like, Naji and Jalen Warren. Not exciting. So it's really James Cook and Breeze Hall. Right. And so if Breeze Hall does end up going in a platoon this year and he's okay, not great for fantasy, he is the belle of the ball for the 2026 free agents and could end up getting

a massive contract from another team that wants to make him a three down back. And I just think he's like too alluring of a name, regardless of his performance, for him to be a value in drafts at all. Like I don't think it's possible for Brice Hall, no matter any news like this, no matter how much we talk about it, I don't think it's possible that I will draft him,

because it's too alluring, it's too exciting. Every time I see his name in ADP and the guys he's going ahead of, I have a really hard time. You know, Chase Brown and Kyron Williams. And it's like, those guys were awesome. Why are you taking Breeze Hall?

Because he was good a couple years ago? I gotta hate the fact that I assume they're talking about Isaiah Davis. Because if they came out like, hey, Breece, Braylon Allen, we're going to have our own Thunder Lightning. Little platoony. OK, that's fine. That's fine. When you're saying we got three, and you're, I mean,

basically Buffalo Bills situation, where they had three guys in the rotation. Justin Fields is your quarterback now. Three darts is too bad. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with our 2025 rookie preview quarterback now? Three darts is too big. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with our 20, 25 rookie preview for the quarterback and running back position. All right, let's get into it.

Hey rookie, welcome to the NFL. Well, like we said at the top, this is an overview of what we liked in our scouting process of looking at these players, some fantasy thoughts, some quick thoughts on them. The Dynasty podcast goes more in depth, the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty pod if you want to go check that out. Very in depth analysis of all those prospects and some insights from Borg and Betts as well. The dynasty pass, if you are a hardcore dynasty player, if you're just getting into it, either way check that out at ultimatedraftkit.com.

We have production profiles, we have the rookie mock drafts, risers and fallers. We keep track of everything going on with the rookies and bring that to you so you can make more informed decisions for your draft. But let's begin with the quarterback position. We've got some teams that need quarterbacks. Most of them always need quarterbacks. But Tennessee with the first pick needs a quarterback. Cleveland second pick needs a quarterback. The Giants and Jets both drafted in the top ten. Both need a future quarterback. New Orleans probably planning for the post-car era.

I've heard about them being very interested in interviewing some of these guys. Pittsburgh at 21, because they always draft around 21 looking for a quarterback. But let's begin with our consensus number one prospect at the quarterback position, Cam Ward out of Miami. Mike, your first impressions of Cam Ward, looking at him on tape, evasive in the pocket. You know, he didn't have a ton of rushing yardage, but I thought on film he was very

capable of, you you know running when he needed to. What did you think of Cam Ward and why is he sitting at the top of your board? So I'll start off with the like a zoomed out look at this quarterback class. I think it is real it's difficult like we don't feel like I don't feel like and just checking out what the industry is saying about this quarterback class. You don't feel as locked in. Now that doesn't mean, and when you have a guy who's locked in, generational Trevor Lawrence, it doesn't always work. So some of these lower tiered quarterbacks we're talking about, they might actually be the ones to go with. But Cam Ward, I mean, the truth is first and foremost he sits at number one for me because he is projected to be the number one NFL

player. NFL draft capital matters so so much. It matters more than my opinions that I type up in my mother's basements. But Cam Ward's a good player. I think that he is very capable. I like the journey. He transferred school a couple times, ends up in Miami. And there's kind of like a steady progression of the career getting better. Good accuracy last year, 67%. He completed 67% of his passes while averaging 9.5 yards per attempt. So it's like, those are good numbers.

And he's playing with guys who are not, like this isn't the Borough of college where Borough is playing with multiple first round wide receivers. Like Cam's not surrounded by that. So like he is more of the engine to making things happen for me. It's tough, obviously.

Richardson was the number four overall pick last year. To me, a big part of making projections on these players has to be, are they gonna be long-term starters in the NFL, in your opinion? Or are you gonna have a 2022, where it's Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ritter and Malik Willis, or a 2013 with Geno Smith and EJ Manuel. You've always got to be on the lookout of look if there's a certain

amount of players coming out they have to there somebody has to be the first quarterback drafted right somebody has to be the second one drafted teams are desperate for you know we'll talk about Shadour Sanders his dance in terms of teams opinions of him but you know to to me solid he had some plays that were very Caleb Williams evade the pocket esque to me in Miami. You mentioned the fact he wasn't throwing to the best wide receiver in college football you know like Chidora Sanders with Travis Hunter. Sure. Good arm strength you know Jason what were your takeaways from Cam Ward? I went in really skeptical just from this whole draft class being down

and I had watched Elijah Arroyo his tight end before scouting Cam Ward and there were a couple plays in there that I remember thinking oh I did not like that from the quarterback so I'm curious how I'm gonna feel going through Cam Ward. Once I scouted him I was like like, yeah, this is an NFL player. He looked to me, like if I was a fan of a franchise, the only quarterback that I really believe is an NFL quarterback who's going to last. And that's not to say he's going to be a fantasy sensation since he has the ability to be mobile. His scrambling in the pocket, I was so impressed with.

It was, you know, he didn't take on- He may run more in the NFL than he did in college. I think he might. He might be even more valuable for fantasy in that sense, but his pocket awareness, his ability to evade the pressure and keep his eyes downfield and make plays was great. His arm strength was good. His accuracy was good, and it wasn't all screens. I was pretty impressed with him. I don't see him as like this generational superstar talent, but I do think I would love for him to be the, you know, if I had to hope in one of

these rookies for my franchise, I think Cam Ward is- You're taking me for the Titans, are you taking Cam Ward? Yes, I'm absolutely taking Cam Ward. If you were Jacksonville and you could choose to restart with cam ward or keep Trevor Lawrence on that contract What would you do? Oh if you're talking I get the rookie contract versus the Handcuffs that are on me right now with Trevor Lawrence. I would switch to cam ward in a heartbeat. Okay Yeah, just to give you a lay of the land 2024 39 touchdowns seven interceptions a 172 passer rating four touchdowns on the ground 200 yards on the ground 6 2 2 23's got the plays much bigger than Chedure which clarification

if you're not aware the way that NCAA or whatever college they score rushing for a quarterback if you take a sack that yardage is removed from your from your rushing total at which you will notice is that no I hate it I think I like it I think I I just from a fantasy from a fantasy football perspective I wish sacks were penalized I wish and obviously if you lost rushing yards when you take an eight yard sack then that would be penalized from a fantasy standpoint. Yeah, I can see the argument of taking, because in the NFL you take a sack, that drive's probably dead, more than likely. But you're really going to notice the rushing yards when we look at Shadour.

22 sacks for Cam Ward last year in Miami. And then number two, Mike actually has him at three. I do. Jason and I have him at two, Shadour Sanders. I don't know if I will. Three in my heart. I don't know if I'm gonna end up being, I think I might accidentally end up being

the most bullish on Shadour of this three pack. Okay. Because I actually think he will succeed at the next level. So I mean, that's like step one, right? Are you gonna be a starter that can go out there and succeed on a regular basis? Hyper accurate. Did have Travis Hunter to throw the ball to.

Also evasive in the pocket. Also played for a team that had no Russian game of any kind in Colorado. In fact, their leading rusher was about 350 yards. I think that might have been an active decision by Papa Dion. There was a little bit of both. I mean, you also put yourself in a position. There were nine and four last year. The defense struggled at times, but a 74% passer, 37 and 10 touchdown to interception ratio. I actually think he's going to succeed at the next level. There are some throws that he attempts and succeeded

with that I think are very college football decisions that'll get you into piles of trouble. Some of the stuff that Caleb Williams did where you were like, that play is amazing, but if you try that three times in the NFL, you're getting picked. You've got to take the easier play. But, um, we're talking about a player that was 82% completion percentage between the numbers. So he threw it over the middle of time.

To me, I love seeing that. There were there were quarterbacks that came out years ago that Ohio State quarterback played for Washington. I don't know why I cannot remember his name right now. Well, now I can only take a first round draft pick. I'll ask him. Dwayne has. Oh, yes.

He was a player that in the scouting process, you noticed everything was to the edges. It was to the outside. I like to see players, to me it's a great trade as a quarterback when you're willing to throw the ball in the middle of the field, timing routes. So I actually think Shadour will succeed. I think this order, Cam Ward and Shadour could very much

change for me post draft. If you go look at the post draft rankings, landing spots gonna matter. We didn't talk about it, but Cam Ward, if it's Tennessee, how do you feel about that for those first couple of years? I feel okay, actually. I think that Tennessee has, they're not overpowering you, but they're not depleted. Not that I think Shadour will go number two but if you just put those two situations up against one another Tennessee Cleveland I like his opportunity to go to Cleveland and

succeed fantasy wise more than I do camp. I would I would rather have whichever quarterback I prefer I think the the better spot is Tennessee I think it's just a better run franchise and if you look at the weapons, I mean, you've got Jerry Judy for Cleveland, but there's not much else. Yeah, I mean, Sutter Tillman, I think he flashed quite a bit last year. I think both landing spots are okay, as in the, often we feel just terrible about the team offenses who are drafting at the top. I think that the spots that need a quarterback are okay. Shador Sanders to me.

Yeah, you made the comment earlier, the only one you feel real confident in is Campbell. So tell me why you think Shador, you're. There was a lot I liked from Shador Sanders. He throws such a catchable ball. Like he looks like, you know, he doesn't have the same arm strength and the fiery zip, but he certainly to me looks like he has the ability

to throw an NFL ball. He can get it out to the middle fast enough, quick enough, hit guys right in stride. I think it's a beautiful pass that he has. The problem I had on film was that when things went right, he was really good. He was really, really, really good. But in the games where the pass rush got him, I remember there were a lot of plays

against Baylor where it was like, oh, the pass rush was coming. He took sacks that I feel like were his fault. He didn't overcome. To me, he looks like this wonderful game manager when things go right. And if he goes to a good situation I agree Andy he can succeed. I don't look at this guy and say he he doesn't have the ability to But I worry that if he's not If he's not to a great destination Which most of the top spots, you know, we could debate which one is better between Tennessee and the Browns neither is great There's a reason why these guys are picking number one and number two I Tennessee and the Browns. Neither is great. There's a reason why these guys are picking number one and number two.

I don't know if when it collapses if he can overcome. I didn't see that. I think it's a better throw under pressure than Cam Ward. Okay, 26% of his sacks, Jason, to highlight your point, they were deemed quarterback responsible. So as in he was the reason for a quarter of his of his sacks which that's a very high number to Push the blame saying no the quarterback took it when I'm watching him like And he is he is a mobile guy, but like so I was talking about rushing yards He finished the year with negative 50 rushing yards this in this is a player who can make some things happen on the ground

But speaking of him in the pocket, very rarely do you see him, at least when I'm watching him, step forward into the pocket. No, he retreats too much. He retreats too much, for sure. And the retreating. I think he got gun shy. The retreating then just, it compiles on, it makes the sack even worse when it eventually happens.

So to me, it's like, are you, when you're facing an actual NFL defense, are you gonna be able to see the field properly? Are you gonna be able to look players off and create things with your eyes? And that combined with, to me there still feels like there's some hesitancy from the NFL of

Like all the reviews for Sanders are not glowing He's not locked in to be the number two overall pick which she would When you have two teams at the top of the draft that need a quarterback and you felt there and you felt like there's two Really strong prospects it would we would be saying okay. Who's picking? Who's at three? That's when the draft actually starts. No, I think that's fair. I mean, I look at those offensive lines in the collegiate, like, Kim Ward had a great offensive line. They did a lot more in the running game.

They did a lot more in pass protection. And the retreating that you're talking about, it's a fair criticism. I think it's a product of it kind of being Sanders and Hunter versus the worlding that you're talking about, it's a fair criticism. I think it's a product of it kind of being Sanders and Hunter versus the world for that offense versus a complete offense. Sure. If he ends up at a good spot, he should do her okay.

Okay. Boston! No, not enough. You know what? I'm fine with it, I'm okay. Compared to, you've set a bar. Our show's had worse. You've set a bar that that's so low my bar is do it. You've delivered it. Well, thank you It's gonna it's better than Millrow's place, which we're gonna talk about. Oh my

Jackson dart though. It comes in at two on Mike's list three on Jason's number one and Kyle's I Don't know if he's actually number one in his rankings, but he's definitely one in Kyle's I Don't know if he's actually number one in his rankings, but he's definitely number one in Kyle's heart He is number one in your heart. I'll know it speaking up Jack's because when you call Kyle out on his bull crap then then he did anybody oh no. Oh no Kyle You love Jackson dark just admit it Yeah, yeah, that's right Wow Did we mute him? Did we not? You'll never know.

No, I don't think we muted him. Jackson Dart, guys. Ole Miss, 29 and six, the touchdown to interception ratio, 69% completion percentage. Nice. And we had 495 yards on the ground from Jackson Dart. You know, by the way, one thing I didn't bring up, Cam Ward's younger than Chedure, right? Yeah, Chedure is what 23?

Cam Ward's just a couple months. Yeah, but he also had an exceptionally young breakout age, right? He was 18. Jackson Dart's not yet 22, breakout age of 19. Why is yet two over Shador? Do you think it's just more prototypical NFL quarterback prospect to you? Yeah and just the, I like Dart's arm talent a little bit more. Where like Sanders, I'm not trying to take away from him. I think I do agree with everything we said of he throws a good ball, He's very accurate. I just have concerns of once he's scanning the NFL field. Will that be enough. Like well when he has to hit an out route. Will it will it get there in time or will the DB be able

to pick it off where Dart. He I mean he is he's just he's been a dark horse here of rising up. A dark horse? I didn't wanna do it because Jason just did his awful joke. Yeah, but what are you supposed to do? I put the ball on the team for you. He could go to New Orleans at nine and sit behind Carr for a year.

He could be a pick by the Colts if they aren't convicted based on their two inconsistent players. Do you think he'll be a first round pick? Yes. I do. I do. I do. I think they're... I mean, I can't imagine a team like Pittsburgh, even with Aaron Rodgers,

how do you not take a chance on a prospect like this at 21? Yeah. The nice thing from a fantasy perspective and the reason why I think that you can easily put him at two over Shadour Sanders, so long as Jackson Dart gets drafted in the first round. Like right now I'm not 100% positive he'll be a first round pick so he's my three. But the fact that we don't care. I don't care for if he's a great NFL player for the most part. I care about is he going to be good for fantasy football?, is he gonna help me win in the real game,

which is fantasy football? And he runs, you know, three years ago, 614 rushing yards, two years ago, 400 rushing yards, 495 rushing yards his final season. Those things matter for fantasy, so you add the arm talent, if he's a first round draft pick, with his mobility, and you kinda get a little bit- Highest scramble rate of the class, right?

So that I mean that's what you want. That's gonna help you succeed early in your NFL career You look at how that helped Bo Nicks and Jaden Daniels obviously Jaden Daniels a far superior dual threat athlete but Jackson Dart, that's the reason why I like him, but I was I Was a little disappointed with the film. I wasn't blown away, no. Jalen Milrow, 726 yards on the ground last year, 531 in 2023, four years in Alabama. What were your takeaways on film for Jalen Milrow, kind of rounding out our quarterback

overview before we get into running backs. So the easiest thing to do with Milrow is because his numbers aren't pro-league. His ground numbers are fantastic, but you're talking two full seasons of 13 games, 2,800 passing yards. So this isn't a guy who was absolutely getting it done compared to- To 16 passing touchdowns last year.

Jackson Dart threw almost 4,300 passing yards in 13 games. And then there's the, well, is this Anthony Richardson all over again? No, Milrow's a far better prospect, has way more experience, which was one of the huge knocks on Anthony Richardson, was like, the dude hasn't played very many games, are we gonna take him at four overall? Yeah, I mean, I guess I probably would push back against better prospect when you look at ceiling,

because nobody's gonna draft. Jalen Milrow's not gonna get drafted anywhere near, Richardson got drafted, even though he was much, like, Milrow's a better passer. Yeah. Completion percentage isn't close between the two correct I mean 64 versus 53 sub 54 which has translated directly into the NFL but you know I guess was a very hyped quarterback that had a little more of a letdown season in 2024 compared to his 2023 year where he threw 23 passes or touchdown passes, just six picks.

And then a hard part for Milro is he, at least the latest I've seen, Kyle, you can update me if this has changed. He's not projected to be a first round quarterback. No. Where does, I mean, if you're not in the first round, you're a backup. He has backup right now. Yeah if you're not in the first round. He's got. You're a backup. He has backup right now. Yeah, you're not starting right away.

We've had some success with quarterbacks in the second round. Not a ton when you're talking about the hit rate versus the first rounder. But it's like Jalen Hurts, second round pick. So he's automatically put into the position of he's going to be a backup at least for a while. Like, Saints, if they take him in the second,

I don't remember if they have a second round pick. But that's interesting. Let him learn from Derek Carr for a year. But overall, I am more concerned for Milro's long term. They have 2 thirds as well. Yeah, me too. Because it's like, if he doesn't 40. I'm more concerned for Milro's long term. They have two thirds as well. Yeah, me too. Because it's like, if he doesn't go. It's capital.

It's draft capital. You think he'll go in the second because he's a quarterback. There's a chance, though, that people are like, no, we're not going to spend a pick here. We like the depth at other positions. So we will take a quarterback in the third. And now, I mean, eventually you get into the area where you're like, well, it's Hendon Hooker.

It doesn't matter how much I liked that player right that dude is is buried unless something catastrophic happens in front of them Running backs. Let's talk about a very exciting position in this upcoming draft You have a lot of teams that have needs At the running back position the Raiders who pick at number 6 and 37 The Saints who have talked a lot about drafting a running back at nine and 40, the Bears great place for a quarter for a running back to land drafting at number 10. Also two picks in the second round so they've got the draft capital to pull the trigger.

Dallas we know they're at 12 they're at 44 in the second round. You got the Broncos major need at running back. They're picking at 20. He's not making it there. Steelers, well, you're talking about Ashton Gentry. I haven't started talking about him yet. All right, that's fair. But I'm just talking about. Lots of good running backs in this class,

but everybody's wanting to know where Genty's going. You're just thinking about where Genty can go. But yeah, Steelers at 21, Chargers at 22, the Chiefs at 31. There's a lot of places that running backs could land and succeed immediately, which is what we love, right? Like we talk every year, rookie running backs

make contributions for fantasy on a regular basis. But I mean, you know, how many of those teams that I just read do you not like? I mean, if a running back lands in New Orleans, okay, maybe you have to sit behind Camaro a little bit, but Chicago. Love it. Las Vegas. Love it.

With Geno Smith now. The Cowboys, the Broncos. Great. The Steelers. Broncos might be the best, Steelers great. Steelers great, Chargers great. Chargers might be the best. I mean, there's so many good landing spots, and the great news is that this year it's lining up with so many great running backs.

So every year there's usually two rookie running backs in the top 12, certainly in the top 24. I feel like this year there could be six guys, rookies, in the top 24 this year. And that wouldn't even, like I don't even think that's a spicy take. I think that will happen. Well, we won't let you know who we have at number one until after the break. I mean, I feel like I had to have the deucer cam on

to introduce this guy because Ashton Gentey is our number one, obviously. And you've got- Oh, there are two? We're fist pounding co-man're fist pounding producers co-managing a team that believe okay then Al Borland pulls his trophy out to just remind him but these two guys have already cemented

Ash and Gentie in the NFL Hall of Fame they've got the busts already being manufactured those are gonna be good looking bust did you see I found out why he did not participate in the combine drills and it was because. He had to wear a shirt? He had to wear a shirt at the combine.

And his pro day he was allowed to go. I didn't even know where you were going. Oh yeah, I mean the pro day. If you haven't seen him. He must work out. Yeah. I think so. I mean, goodness gracious.

Goodness gracious. Yeah, he's very Svelte. Yeah Yeah, all He looked like his skin couldn't do more. No, it could not very more muscle Don't hit that guy with a needle because he might he might just rip All right, so pro day looked good. Prolific, collegiate running back. Alright from the visual aesthetic. FBS record 151 missed tackles force, 77 runs of 10 plus yards. The only running back in

the class average two plus yards per The only running back in the class averaged two plus yards per play, or sorry, per team play. Per team play in his career. Catched the football. And it was almost three. I mean, that's the overview. The overview is like, is he,

is he potential legend status? And I think that he is at least potential legend. He is potential legend status honestly if he wasn't a Boise State running back if he did this for a different team I think I mean he's already gonna be he's gonna be drafted first clearly in the NFL draft he's gonna be first in almost every rookie draft even super flex drafts he's probably gonna be first because he's gonna be a top 15-ish NFL draft pick. He's got the most production that we've seen in a long, long time.

His production profile is outrageously good. You liked 2,600 yards on the ground last year. I'm a huge fan of that. 29 touchdowns. I love that too. Yeah. He did fumble four times. He broke out at 18 years old.

He's 215 pounds. He basically checks every single box across the board. The only one that you question is just the level of competition. We have seen a handful of Boise State running backs who are exceptionally prolific, statistically speaking, and then they don't live up to that hype. 5'9", shorter. Which is fine for a running back. So is there any scenario like I'll paint a quick picture here like he goes to the Saints at nine and then one of these

other prolific running backs goes at ten? I think we had talked- like Omarion Hampton goes at ten to the Bears is there any world where your rookie draft is unsettled? There is, there is a world. I think the only situation that makes sense is if Gentie were to go to the 49ers and Omar and Hampton were to go to one of the great landing spots,

whether it's the Bears or whether it's the Broncos, with high draft capital, you might make the argument that you should switch those and genti should be the second running back taken i that's legit and we can do that after the NFL draft. But the Saints bears you wouldn't switch them. I don't think so no. uh... so yeah genti is very secure on the tippy top of drafts for both the running back position in the NFL and for the rookie drafts

so you know it's uh... it's hard to argue. You talked about Boise State. What Gentie did was highlight real stuff every single week. Yeah. Yeah. It really was. So if you haven't watched, which I would say most people don't just watch Boise State

College games. Was Doug Martin at Boise State running back? I believe so. Doug Martin. Madison. Alexander Madison, J.J. Jeremy McNichols. Yes, a lot of prolific backs there that don't necessarily pan out.

But this was truly, I mean, if you watch the film, he breaks tackles every single play. You cannot, no one-on-one guy is getting him down. Balance is outrageous. He has this wildly short and effective stiff arm. I don't understand it. It's like, I feel like it always works, but this isn't Derek Henry's like six foot long arm.

This is, you know, five foot nine guy with a stiff arm that no one could get to him. So TLDR is gonna work. Yeah, it's gonna work. It's gonna work at the next level for for Gentie. At number two for Jason and I, number three for Mike, Amari and Hampton coming out of North Carolina, bigger back than Mr. Gentie. He's six foot two twenty, breakout age of 20 years old. I loved what I saw in film from Hampton. He's the type of

player that I think will translate very very well. He's what you saw in film from Hampton. He's the type of player that I think will translate very, very well. He's what you want in terms of being able to be a three down back. He can catch the football, had 38 receptions in 2024. I liked his speed. To me, he was one of those like get him going guys, right? Get him to help him turn the corner. Um, certain systems might be more of an advantage for Hampton, but because of the demand for the running back position

right now in the NFL and these great landing spots, if it's Chicago, if it's Dallas, if it's Pittsburgh, like I'm feeling pretty good about Hampton as a next-level fantasy star. Yeah, I mean there is an argument assuming that he gets the first round draft capital that he's been being mocked with lately and frequently. If he gets that, then he should really be seen of as in the tier with Gentie as far as fantasy future. This is a guy that does project to be able to have true three down utilization. He is a great pass blocker. He should be in every down.

Like that's the style. If you're going to draft a player like Amarian Hampton with that size, that strength, that pedigree, that utilization, you are drafting him to be on the field all the time in all situations. And for fantasy purposes, that's great. He's gonna catch the ball. He's gonna be a goal line guy.

I loved the film. There's only four players in ACC history with 1,500 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns in consecutive years, which is what he did. Lamar Jackson, Dalvin Cook, Travis Etienne. I love that Lamar Jackson is there. Lamar Ian Hampton. So, Upright Runner.

Yeah, I'll say Upright. Dude, when I hear Upright Runner, there's only one guy that always pops up in my head. I know who it is. Peterson? You do? Run DMC. Yes, Darren McFadden. Yeah, you can't when I hear upright running. There's only one guy that always pops. I know who it is Peter do run DMC Yes, yeah, they're in McFadden. Yeah, you can't call that upright that is Toothpick it is vertical. Yeah, it just gets in my head. But I'm Mike. Why don't you talk about why you have a Nipple lower than I'm not out on Hampton Travia and Henderson

But I am I am definitely would be the cold water of the three of us. He, like I have him at three. I can see where people are mock drafting him. And we said at the top, draft capital matters so, so much. But back when I first reviewed O'Marian Hampton, I was like, I think he's good. It took some time for me to warm up to him. And it kind of my my close out on him is I said he's oddly good as in above

average balance but I'm not blown away by the traits. So where like Andy loves Hampton that's that was not my that wasn't my takeaway for him. I thought this is a this is a good run. This is a starting running back, a good player, but I'm not over the moon for Hampton. And since that time, we've gotten a couple quotes. They're anonymous, but of people being concerned about Hampton not being a true starter caliber running back.

And this is- That's someone who wants to draft him. Maybe, maybe. But then the other one is, and this is a grain of salt, but this is a Maurice Jones Drew, who was an elite running back. How well can he scout running backs? I don't know that for sure.

But he had, he listed, I think, four or five guys as, okay, these are guys who are starters right away in the NFL, and then there were system running backs. Hampton's in his system running backs. I think he had him at RB seven. And my final note on Hampton was, because I said I'm not blown away, but in the right spot he will thrive.

So the landing spot is very important to Hampton for me compared to the other guys. Yeah, I saw some Arian Foster-esque. Mm-hmm. That would be- Well then that would be why you love him. But you're right, you're right. There's a flow.

There's a flow to his game, like water. We all love, like we have archetypes and types of players that we all are drawn to. Yeah, well and it's not like Arian Foster was a high draft pick. Oh, was he even drafted? Was he seventh round or undrafted? Undrafted.

Yeah, undrafted. So I mean, talk about a system gets ahold of you and it works. Foster was that example. I like Hampton a lot. I don't think he's a system running back at all. He does things in the open field that our system lists that he just breaks tackles and has great balance and has great athleticism, size, strength, pretty much all the things that you usually want to see.

It's worth noting, FootKlan, this year, to me, I think there might be six guys, six, who are maybe better than last year's number one. Like last year's draft class, where it was Jonathan Brooks and Trey Benson and Blake Corum, those guys, if they were in this year's class, would be very low. So when we're putting Hampton two or even Trevion Henderson three- That's ahead of those guys. Yeah, it's ahead of those guys. Just because they, it's ahead of those guys just cuz they're three It's not their fault. They're in a great draft class

Yeah, Trevion Henderson comes in at three for us two for Mike three from Jason and myself we're gonna throw him in with quenching Judkins and Talk about the Ohio State running backs Mike Oh, tell me why Henderson jumps off the page for you. So he is an absolute demon on the field, and going back to my comment, we all have play type that we are drawn to. Hey, you've been talking about Henderson nonstop. Henderson to me is, when I'm watching the tape,

and I got the same butterflies I got when I was watching Jameer Gibbs, of this is a guy who could shock with draft capital and he can hit a home run anywhere on the field. We're talking 90 plus yard rushing touchdowns it's not impossible. He got used in the receiving game he's got good hands like they'll motion him out and and let him run a nine route down the field on the outside and they and throw on the ball they trusted him with that at Ohio State, his production profile,

if you're talking strictly that, it's not anywhere near where Gentie or Hampton is because he had Judkins on the team who is- Yeah, Judkins had 194 carries. Who, and like, Judkins projects as a day two pick at the worst case scenario for him. Which, yeah, it just reminds me of. So you're sharing the field with two,

it's two NFL starting caliber running backs on the same team. Chubb and Sonny Michelle? Yeah, down in Georgia, exactly. It reminds me of that situation. Yeah, yes, absolutely, and Henderson, he just, with the quick twitch and the speed, that's what I fell in love with. Jason, do you have any thoughts on Henderson?

I echo a lot of what Mike's saying. I think Gibbs is the comp. Gibbs was better, had higher draft capital, I project, but it wouldn't be shocking to me if the draft falls in a way where Gentie goes six or whatever, that number 10, if the Bears, who are trying to recreate what's going on for the Lions, if they were to grab- They draft Gibbs. Yeah, they draft Henderson after they've upgraded the center of that offensive line.

That wouldn't surprise me. He does a lot of stuff that you want in fantasy, especially in today's fantasy. Catch the ball, extreme speed, and yeah, I mean, I really love him. I see these three guys as like tier one prospects. He's a 202 is what I'm seeing on the NFL. Yeah, he's definitely lighter.

So that's, when you get right around 200, I get a little bit nervous about utilization. I get nervous about the, I almost said Thomas Jones. Who am I thinking of? Out of USC, we interviewed him. Out of USC? Yeah, for goodness sakes. We're running, oh, Ronald Jones.

Ronald Jones, sorry. Sure, yeah, yeah. But the hype and explosiveness, like there's two sides of that coin, right? Like if you've got, are you Gibbs? Or do you slip into a- Gibbs is 59202. Yeah.

The draft capital is going to have a lot to do with it. He's the more explosive one. Judkins was the Chubb in the- Yes. In the Sonny, Michelle, Nick, Chubb, Georgia comp for Judkins and Henderson. One of the things that gives me confidence in Henderson is that it's always been, he was a five-star recruit. He was the number one draft, you know, the number one running back in the class going

to college. Then year one as an 18-year-old has 1,255 yards for Ohio State. He's just been great. So I think he'll- Do you worry about him if he, like what if he's a second runner? No big deal? No, big deal. Big deal. I think he will go in the first round. I think all three of these guys will be first round NFL draft picks. But it is true that the depth of this class could really hurt the draft capital of these guys because these teams could go, man, I really like Trevion Henderson.

It's a tier-based drafting. Yeah, tier-based drafting. Yeah, it's tier based drafting. You could end up waiting. You're like, I'll just get a really good, because the running backs that go in round three are going to be super more valuable than most third round picks. Like that is the teams that are drafting running backs

in the third round, they're doing it right. But these guys I still see as clear cut first round talent. Those three, I think we all agree should be the first three off the board. Once you go beyond those three, even though the talent is there, you get into more variety in terms of how, both how fantasy analysts and NFL analysts have them ranked

and in terms of you might start picking and choosing based on system, based on what type of back that you want. Judkins, we have, you know, four, five and seven. Um, I'm the highest on him right now. I thought solid was kind of yeah, the way I saw him on film. He's a, he's a bigger back, six foot, two 20. Um, but production, right? A lot of, a lot of production and you know five and a half a carry in his in his final season fourteen touchdowns just one fumble over two years for judkins which it is great to see by the way henderson protected the ball as well they were teaching them

well in ohio state he never fumbled over the last two years i'm the lowest on judkins and it's not because i don't think he's a good prospect it's just because i like he's seven for me and there are seven really good running backs in this class so this isn't a low he's not normally my my seven I think he does everything pretty well he didn't really blow me away at any one specific trait which is probably why I have him a little lower honestly post-cime combine yeah I'm really higher on him. He was a big winner.

He crushed the combine. I mean, elite athlete. I didn't see that on film, but obviously the production was there. Production, touchdowns, rushing yardage, capability to handle the load with being a 220 pound back. So a lot to like with Judges. I remember Nick Chubb was drafted around

after Sony Michelle as the power bear. Sony had the explosiveness Chubb was the powerback so just you know not that that will repeat but both of these players national title-winning productive well-rounded backs. Caleb Johnson and Cam Scattaboo the last two names that we'll talk about for the rookie running back overview, I believe. You can mention maybe another favorite from the list. But Caleb Johnson, Mike, you're the lowest, Jason the highest on him. Ran a 4.57. Had a bad combine. He did.

But his film. Hyperproductive in Iowa. His 40 seemed slower than the film. Yes. On film, when he's breaking away, people aren't catching him. Kyle, do we have any miles per hour data on Caleb Johnson? Because I feel like he has to have crushed.

He had to have got up to 22. When I watched the film, there were plays. he's a very patient, you know sometimes too patient, very slow starter, waits for the holes to open but very explosive once it's time to go and you don't usually catch him. You know 75 yard run for a touchdown, just a really really big play machine. He did reach 22 miles an hour last year. Okay, there it is. So the film, it's kind of like Puka. Puka goes and runs a slow 40,

but his college miles per hour were great. I'm not going to allow the Combine to affect my belief in Caleb Johnson. Afterwards, because I had him at four, you know, watching him, I was unsure at first. The more that I watched, I was like, yeah, this guy is going to hit home runs in the NFL. And then the con might happen, and I was like,

oh man, should I move him down? I'm holding steady on Caleb Johnson. To me, this is the line between star and starter. Yeah, yeah. I think Caleb Johnson can be an NFL starter. I don't know if he can be an NFL star. He is extremely smooth. I was disappointed with, like, this is a man.

This is a big dude. And I don't feel like he played to his size, where, like, there's some guys who are small and they play big, and some guys who are big and they play small. And that's how it looked to me, I'd say. Like, he gets stuck too much for a player that's 225, at the line of. Well, he runs upright for a big guy, so that can hurt him, get held up.

And I do have a note of the get moving after the catch isn't great. So I mean, that could speak to the 40 of he's a locomotive. It takes a little bit to get it going. But once he's at top speed, he's a locomotive. It takes a little bit to get it going. Once he's at top speed. He's very fast But I I felt like overall he was he could be magma hot and then there's some games where I watched them Like this is this isn't it. So he's he's not as high as the other guys But he will be he's fascinating to watch for the draft. Somebody tell me what to believe about

Square-shaped cam scataboo who? 1700 yards last year, including 600 receiving yards. Dominant. Versatility, you know, the run that ASU made into the tournament, it was so impressive. I mean, he was their offense in a lot of ways. He was also a zero star recruit. This was a player that transferred multiple times. Sacramento State Hornets. Yeah, he was a Hornet. Of course. You can't argue with production. You can't argue with the tackle breaking that you saw in film over and over and over again. Great contact balance. I mean, we're from Arizona. I watched ASU all year.

Camp Scataboo was the entire, like, you didn't really understand it sometimes. Oh, not at all. That's what I, that's what I was hit with when I watched it on film. Why can't anyone tackle him? Why is he stronger than everyone? It made no sense.

You'd watch it and you'd be like, he doesn't look super fast, but he's running away from guys. He doesn't look super big, but he's running away from guys He doesn't look super big, but he's running over guys. I mean he runs Over he gets low. He's an angry man under guys He is a mole angry. He is so angry He just and he has the Marshawn Lynch thing where it's like I'm gonna hit you Over and over and over and over and over and it gets easier for me as the game goes on he broke so many tackles that if you if you just look at metrics okay if you're just gonna spreadsheet

scout cam is as good as as prospects that we've seen since I mean the the prolific statistical production, tackle breaking production is like, you see lists of all sorts of tweets that go out where it's like players who have done X, Y, and Z, and it's like Saquon Barkley, Christian McCaffrey, and Kam Skatibou over and over and over. But we don't know that he's gonna have the NFL draft capital.

He didn't have the high school recruiting prospect. So I'm fascinated to see, does a team invest? Because this is the type of player that, after the NFL draft, I could just go, don't care. He's a fourth round pick, don't care. Is there a chance he's a third down back? A third down back? He has the capabilities for sure.

Like at the next level, is there a chance he kind of finds? I don't think. I don't think someone's going to have him just be a third down back. He's too perusing of a goal line. Well, third down, short yardage maybe. Sure, yeah, both. He was exclusively a shotgun back as well. His contact balance is top tier.

He has power. My notes on Scadaboo are like, my brain cannot handle him, because he seems lumbering and slow, the jump cut takes about two years to complete, and it works every time. I know. What I've said on the Dynasty podcast is,

I am all in on Scataboo, unless the NFL tells me that teams are out. Yes. Because what I'm watching, it's only one year, of course. Some of these other guys have a bigger resume. He had one truly elite season. But if an NFL team goes in on him, I will be all in. One of the things, just to give some brief background on Scataboo is that as a junior,

he weighed maybe 10 pounds more than he did as a senior. And that was a big point of emphasis from their head coach and their staff. You've got to get your weight down so you can have more explosiveness in the open field, which you saw more of last year. He's very versatile. He can catch the football, he can catch it down field. It's just, I'm with you guys. I think it's draft capital. And what

does the NFL want to tell me about all these confusing film versus numbers? I think someone will go in on him because he is really good. 600 yards receiving in college is really insane. And 1700 rushing. I mean, this is not, these are not like, oh, he had a good season. This is like an all-timer season. 1,700 rushing yards, 600 receiving yards in the same season. You know who doesn't like him is the Falcon.

21 rushing touchdowns. The Falcon doesn't like him. Falcon doesn't like him. That's a good sign for him. Yeah, that's a great sign. He reminds me a lot of James Connor, a guy that every single play is picking up extra yards, is breaking one or two tackles, is getting a chunk play but never running away

from guys. James Connor doesn't have a 75 yard run in his system. That's fine. And that's totally fine. This is a player that I think is going to get, you know, 8 to 18 yards on the regular, hard fought yards and wear down a defense. When I look at the rest of our rookie rankings at running back, I see a couple of things that stand out.

I see you both fairly high on Devin Neal. I see RJ Harvey at eight for Jason coming out of UCF. Mike, you've got DJ Giddens in your top 10. Yeah, he's been a riser. So is there another name you want to just throw out there that you're a fan of? Devin Neal. Devin Neal is really, really good.

Devin Neal is the one to talk about. Out of Kansas. Devin Neal is in the same group to me with Kam Scataboo, you know, Caleb Johnson. He's in that tier. Wow, he's that high up for you. I really liked Devin Neal quite a bit. I think he is very well-rounded, a very good one.

Neal with it, Mike. Oh my is very well-rounded, a very good- Neal with it, Mike. Oh my goodness. Oh, wow. Bust it! I did that to myself. Yeah, good. No one's looking.

You deserved it. But yeah, I was a big fan of Devin Neal. Reminded both of us, this is the player I remember. We scouted independently, totally separate, and we just kept writing down the clear and utter comp. Devin Singletary. Yeah, Devin Singletary. And it turned out, that had nothing,

we figured out it was the same name after we had, we're already talking about the comp. That's not the kind of comp that gives me charge though. But he's got, but the thing is, Sing not the kind of comp that gives me charge, though. But the thing is, Singletary was always a good, capable back. And that's how I see Devon Neal. I don't know. Not a headliner.

But no, I don't see him that way. The difference to me, though, is that Devon Singletary, if Devon Singletary had Devon Neal's body, Devon Singletary is 5'7", 203. He was never able to. And not fast'7", 203. He was never able to- And not fast enough to be 203. Exactly. Whereas, but his skill, Devon Singletary's skill,

is why he was able to be 5'7", 203 and have a long career in the NFL being given carries, because he was just really good at the position. I think Devon Neal's good at the position, but he now has a much larger size body speed So I think he'll work in the NFL Well draft capital is gonna tell us a lot of how these teams buy into these guys in the third fourth fifth round We have wide receiver and tight end rookie previews coming on the Thursday episode

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