Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - RB Rankings Countdown: 20-11, Kamara Suspension - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/7

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

Alvin Kamara suspended, reactions & rankings on today’s fantasy football podcast! Which RBs in the middle rounds of fantasy football drafts have the most upside? Plus, the latest on Josh Jacobs and more NFL News! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for August 7th, 2023. Dive into the 2023 Ultimate Draft Kit + Draft Analyzer! UltimateDraftKit.com Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome in. Monday, August 7th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, I'm Andy Holloway. Welcoming you to another week. The NFL season approaches. We're with you every day. I just spent about four to five minutes watching every jordan love throw from the from the green bay packer game please give us the uh review uh i mean it's it's you know inter-team scrimmage so they're not like trying to harm each other as they do in an nfl

game i thought he looked okay like it was i was looking more for also does he have any tendencies, and it was interesting that it started with two deep shots to Romeo Dobbs. I did see some Romeo Dobbs deep highlights when he beat Jair Alexander. Was that one of them? Yep. Unfortunately, there was an overthrow. I think Jordan Love's underrated. I brought him up on- For fantasy purposes.

On last week on the Dynasty Pod of like- We broke it down in the division of just like he set up for such success that I'm not calling for Jordan Love to be the next big thing, but we should leave a little bit of room for margin that if he's good, then he is set up instantly to have not top five, but he can be a real solid streamer, even a top-end quarterback too. Jason, we talked about this a little bit, the fact that their structure is set up in a way that he could come in and be very successful.

It's a little reminiscent of like Gino Smith coming into the Seattle situation where you know what to expect. You have talent, you have a defense, a head coach, you have a, you know, a number of years where they've been competitive.

So you put them in a position. He wasn't, he's not a rookie, right? He's been behind Aaron Rogers who, uh, for the record, he has a great relationship with.

Yes. Very close. A little surprising, but true. Yeah, no, I like betting on well-run franchises. It seems maybe a little too simple, but I find that when you've got an organization that has just succeeded for a long time, and obviously part of that has been they've had great quarterbacks

for about 3,000 years running. Yes, that's accurate. But still, organizations that build rosters in smart ways and have good coaching are usually good fantasy bets as well. Yeah, and players like Aaron Jones certainly help you out in the passing game, and we don't want to underestimate that. Lots to talk about today. We've got news.

We are into the running back rankings countdown. A couple things I want to remind people about at the top. Now that we're into August, I want to let people know, we will be having our Megalus show live event in Los Angeles, end of this month. Tickets available at ballerslive.com. Not a lot of tickets available, but there are some remaining. We have a lot of, you know, we've done multiple cities in the past.

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ultimate draft kit.com, always updated. We got some big news on Alvin Kamara we're going to talk about momentarily. That has already been accounted for in the Ultimate Draft Kit. Got more news about the Saints backfield beyond Alvin Kamara this morning as well. Always up to date. Gets you prepped up for your draft. Lots of premium resources in terms of analytics so you can break things down um we've got consistency charts i don't think we talk about those enough but you can look at players and how

they perform week to week we actually give you can give them consistency grades based on their week-to-week performance uh their volatility their beta so to speak if you're into the like stock market world okay they're they're beta i like it. If you're into the stock market world, their beta. I like it. I thought you were attacking the alphas. We have alphas in there, too. We got betas. We got carotene.

Calling them low-T over here. UltimateDraftKid.com to check that out. Is that a beta carotene joke? Goodness. News and notes from around the league presented by usaa insurance alvin camara has been suspended three games for his role in a fight outside the las vegas night club in 2022 and now we know was he we didn't know would it be four five one i mean what other numbers what other numbers are there could have been two mike actually said he had to increase his ranking of

alvin camara because he had he had kind of pre-guessed four way off and uh my bad you know it is a really difficult thing. The Alvin Kamara draft cost, Mike just brought him up on our Ice and Fire episode. Obviously, with the suspension, you're going to be without him during a very important part, the beginning of the season. You don't get to put him on the IR,

which is something that, you know, if you knew you were missing, let's say, Javante for two weeks, which apparently you're not. But somebody like that, at least you could put him on IR. Now you know the 28-year-old Alvin Kamara, former fantasy superstar, is going to be on the shelf for three weeks. You have a rookie in Kendri Miller, who we all really like the talent of. You have Jamal Williams, who was very effective in the red zone last year. And then they're kicking the tires on Kareem Hunt this morning because Eno Benjamin tore his Achilles,

who was part of their depth chart at running back. I say all this because one of the beat writers that I know we all trust quite a bit is Nick Underhill in New Orleans. And he released an article recently just talking about some of the things that the team observed about what made Alvin Kamara less efficient last year, that they fixed this offseason, and they are very excited about his potential in the offense. We talked about Derek Carr.

He throws to the running back about middle of the pack in that regard. Did you read the part where they had to balance out his legs? It's one of the keys to running. Apparently there was an asymmetrical muscle situation with his legs. So, look, Alvin Kamara was in the one strong leg club last year. We just didn't know about it. And so I guess I say all that because there's going to be a draft price of Alvin Kamara that is very cheap and he's a big name and the and the ice show said maybe just

pass on that yeah but I mean if Alvin Kamara is I'm gonna be real with the people I'm gonna tell you if I'm sitting in the fifth sixth round and I see Alvin Kamara's name, and I'm making a decision between Alvin Kamara and give me a running back and A.J. Dillon. Okay. That is going to be a hard situation psychologically for fantasy players. Well, let me tell you right now who he's going around. So maybe it won't be so hard. Yeah, I don't think it'll be quite as easy or difficult. Alvin Kamara or Joe Mixon. They're going right next to

each other right now. That's stupid. Joe Mixon's gonna go way, way higher. Should go way higher. That one's not. Doesn't make sense. Okay, Alvin Kamara or Aaron Jones. Well, yeah, that's stupid. Okay, that's not hard. Alvin Kamara or Miles Sanders. Yeah, that's stupid. Yeah, so Alvin Kamara still needs to drop a little bit in ADP

to get where we are comfortable drafting him. In ADP, he is right now in the 411. We're looking at this is ADP based off of the sleeper platform. That's going to change. But just in case, let's throw him into the sixth round for you, Andy. That's where I think he'll be, yeah. So if we're in the sixth round, we're talking about Alexander Madison, James Conner, Javante Williams.

Okay, this ain't that hard. Yeah, I'll take all three of those. Yeah, let's just pass on Kamara. Glad we figured that out. Now, what if you put them in the eighth round because they signed Kareem Hunt and people freak out even more? Okay, so you want some eighth round, guys? Yeah.

All right, that's where A.J. Dillon is. Yeah, I'll take Alvin Kamara over A.J. Dillon. James Cook. Antonio Gibson. I'll probably take the shot Kamara over AJ Dillon. James Cook. Antonio Gibson. I'll probably take the shot on Cook. Gibson's tough. I would go Gibson. I think that's the line right there.

That would be if I had enough running backs in the eighth round and I could wait, I'll take Kamara. Yeah, all right. So he needs to drop four rounds. Yeah, he needs to pretty much plummet, which his ADP is interesting because even at the 4-11, we knew a suspension was going to happen. I guess people were betting that it was just going to be a game. I thought two was in the cards.

But even a two-game suspension at 4-11, when you could be like miles sanders pierce acres or going way after that or at least a full round there's i don't know it's just interesting for someone who was so inefficient last year i don't i have my concerns about it does camara still have the juice i mean maybe no that his yeah or Or has Super Camario fallen to the wrath of the Goombas? I forgot we had that. That didn't sound good. But it's, again, we're just giving you our opinions,

and we're trying to help you build up the best way forward for you to make your own decisions. Because there's going to be people who are still in on Alvin Kamara. Today's a running back show, so we're getting into the running back countdown shortly camara not in the top 20 not in the top 20 uh the saints uh rashid shaheed traquan smith left practice with groin injuries are they officially on groinindex.com yes always nobody tracks offseason groin injuries in season groin injuries like the Fantasy Footballers podcast. That thing is very fast. If that's what you're about, if you need the latest, greatest groin news,

we've got it. And don't forget, if you haven't been to groinindex.com, we do have their most recent quotes on all of these players as well. That's true. We've asked each player to tell us how they're feeling shortly after. Do you have one, Jason? I do. No, I do.

So Traquan Smith, he said, Ack, McGroin. Kenneth Walker is, Ack, McGroin. Right. So, I mean, there's a slew of different quotes here. All right. And then tomorrow is our top 10 running back.

So today is 20 through 11, counting down the top 10 tomorrow. However, I'm not holding this. Josh Jacobs, this is why it's really, really difficult when a player's not in camp is because you don't know what's truth, what's reality.

You know, NBC's Mike Florio reporting the Chiefs and Broncos both have interest in Josh Jacobs. There were reports that the team may rescind his franchise tag and make him a free agent. There was an interview with the general manager that I watched this weekend talking about, they were asking him about the Saquon situation. Did that open the door? There was talk that Josh Jacobs already turned down $12 million, which I think is what Saquon ended up getting.

And, you know, I don't know where this team's going to be. Josh McDaniels came out. He said, I don't blame a player for doing what they think is right for themselves. It seems like the team's mindset is they want him in camp. Like, here's the confidence I have. If he comes back, I think you'll see utilization. That is the same as last year because this team wants to run them into the ground and say goodbye.

The GM basically said that like they want them to come in here. That their argument is have a season like you did last year. And then you're going to get paid a bunch of money. And then, uh, Josina Anderson on X said, my understanding is the Raiders are open to restarting talks with Josh Jacobs in hopes of getting him to rejoin the team.

I mean, this feels like something put out by the team as well. Yeah, and Devontae Adams, he's come out, and he obviously wants the best players there in town. He'll be alone on an island without Josh Jacobs. It is a murky situation, but in the end, the running back has no leverage and really almost no choice. So I believe he will end up playing this year for the Raiders on the franchise tag because when push comes to shove, it's just the only option in his control.

He has no power. Zemir White's a discussion worth having because he's the backup running back, now running with the ones. Amir Abdullah will be heavily involved. Unfortunately, if Jacobs didn't play, you will see both of those players, which will be annoying because there's not a lot of confidence

in the success of this team. However, pay attention to Zemir White because... be annoying because there's not a lot of confidence in the success of this team however like pay attention to does Amir White because yeah he's a six foot 215 pound running back who has great speed he ran a 4-4 that puts him 96th percentile weight adjusted speed score that's what you really want for a running back and if he's got opportunity that is vacated by Josh Jacobs, certainly worth a shot. I really like the part where it's the two divisional opponents who are like, yeah, we'd be very interested in our division. See, this is where you don't.

It's like, what? Stop it. You don't know if Josh Jacobs puts that piece out. Right. And then it's just tough right now. A couple other injuries, rookie running back, one of Jason's secret, my guys, Devon A-chain, day-to-day with an injury, was injured in Saturday's practice. Chase Edmonds expected to open as the Bucs' third down back.

I saw more praise for him this morning. That's newsworthy. Yeah, it is because of Rashad White. Rashad White is a volume based only pick like he didn't do anything on the field last year with Tom Brady um to make you believe that he was a really great NFL player but the opportunity that he has without Leonard Fournette and his pass catching ability that says hey I mean he could just volume his way to a decent fantasy finish. And that's why I think a lot of people, there's a handful of people that are

really in on Rashad White at his current ADP. I have not been betting on Rashad White. I think he's interesting. Yeah. But if he loses some third down work in the pass catching work without Tom Brady throwing the ball 700 times all of a sudden i mean you just lose a lot of the loss i reacted strongly to it immediately when i saw this news and then it was like a little bit of a correction back to to where like chase edmonds has been a bad football player for two years and so do i believe that rashad White's a more capable, talented player? I do. You know, it's something to pay attention to.

Certainly. And just another piece of it is like, okay, well, if Chase Edmonds is the guy that the team wants on the field in those obvious passing situations, does Chase Edmonds then become also the two-minute drill type of player? Because we do, for football, we can overreact to, oh, well, this player's there on third down. Well, how many passes are running backs actually catching on third down? It's not as high as you would think.

Yeah, Kyle, are you on the microphone, Kyle? Yes, I am. What was the percentage of... Just running back to the yeah i'm here what was the percentage of third down plays last year you were doing some analysis on third downs it's about 20 of the plays so it's a lot less than we realize i think often when we use the phrase like the third down back it's it's really it's passing down it's a two-minute drill back it's the comeback player when you're trying to get back into exactly it's not specifically just how often they're out there on the third down only yeah i think you make a good point

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Running Bags. All right, here we go. The Running Back countdown begins with none other than Alexander Madison at number 20. He snuck in. He snuck into the top 20. Mike has him the highest at 16. Shocker.

Shocker. I'm at 21. Jason's at 23. Well, I have him a good bit higher than Jason, but me and Andy aren't that far off. Running back 22 by ADP, sixth round pick. So, yeah, I'm taking Madison over Alvin Kamara, as we said earlier. Dalvin Cook is gone.

And when he's been absent due to injury, Alexander Madison has taken advantage of those limited opportunities. He's averaged 16.9 fancy points per game when he's been out um you know we have a we have a head coach that we like for this offense uh dalvin cook ran a ton of routes last year and so that's part of the discussion here around it's not that alexander madison should be played in fantasy of course he should it's really a discussion about about what's his range of outcomes. How good could he be in this offense?

What is the ceiling for Alexander Madison from a talent and involvement perspective? How many other backs will be involved? I mean, I went back to 2020, 2021, kind of looking at different running backs that had okay years, right? Like David Montgomery in Chicago had a couple of seasons that were like, all right, he finished around where we have him ranked. It's 20th. But you wouldn't have put, he wasn't a key cog to a championship run. So when you take Alexander Madison, you seem to be getting a discount due to the fact that he's unproven as a starter. He's not been, you know, ratcheted up draft boards like Crystal Lavi

and Garrett Wilson are at the wide receiver position where you expect a huge monster top 10 season. So what do we think about Madison? Yeah, as the lowest ranked analyst on Madison here, I'll say that he has an extremely high ceiling the outcome for him to have success is a very obvious path they've talked about using him in a three down uh role to where he is more involved in the pass catching as well the routes run is a huge question mark here of like is he going to be very involved in the passing game because to me you've got him 200

200 to 250 on the carry count like that's where I think he's going to land somewhere and that that's a valuable role so that's good for being a running back too the question about your upside will become what is the passing role and if he takes a big share of that, I mean, this is a good offense with a bad defense. It's going to score a lot of points and he's been talented on the field. I also believe that he's going to end up a value on draft day because ADPs lag. They just lag. We spent this whole offseason not knowing about whether or not he was the guy. If you started this offseason, if we left the last season and we cut Dalvin Cook immediately, the Vikings shipped him off, Alexander Madison's ADP today would be much, much higher. He'd be in the fourth. And so I think by the time drafts roll around, it's still going to be nerfed a little bit from

the ADP fears of over drafting a player my my hesitancy around Madison has just always been related to how good I think he is relative to other people the efficiency numbers for him are nowhere near where Dalvin Cook was historically per Warren Sharp over the last two years among 74 running backs with 100 attempts 68th out of those 74 in yards per carry 43rd in explosive rush rate 42nd in yards after contact per carry uh you you give a player like that a ton of volume are are those numbers going to change right that's that's kind of the worry we've heard ty chandler has not been impressive in camp when you look at the depth chart you got duane mcbride he's a seventh round, you've got Dwayne McBride.

He's a seventh-round pick. You've got Kene Nwongwu, who's been special teams historically. I don't know how heavily involved. It almost feels like the Las Vegas backfield room last year where we all should have just known it was going to be Jacobs because nobody else really had what it takes. I still think Minnesota is going to be a pretty good team. They have confidence in Madison. Otherwise, they would have brought somebody else in.

Their actions thus far have said that. I've also seen the reports, though, that none of the backup running backs have really taken control over being the second man up, which puts the Vikings on watch for me for a team that could be in the sweepstakes to try and pull Zeke, Leonard Fournette, one of these known veterans. I would think that even if they add one of those players, Alexander Madison is still going to be the first player up.

But it comes down to what are the coaches going to decide here because it had been under Coach Zimmer, you had Dalvin Cook and Madison. They were sharing a lot more of the snaps. But this past season, because you had a new regime, you have O'Connell in charge up there in Minnesota, 72% of the snaps for Dalvin Cook, which is by far the highest snapshot that he had seen in a season.

Is O'Connell a three – is he really a three-down running back type of coach? If that's what happens with Alexander Madison, with the amount of points that the Vikings' offense are going to have to score, because the Vikings are in sneaky soft rebuild right here their defense is going to be really bad really really bad so they're they're counting on their offense to keep them in game so I'm very excited I think the ceiling is tremendous for Alexander Madison we don't know if if he's NFL good yet because he's good when he's the guy, but the last couple years as the backup hasn't been tremendous. 320 opportunities for Dalvin Cook last year led to a running back 10 finish.

And the pass catching was 39 receptions. So those are some numbers to keep in your mind. I don't know if that puts number 10 around the ceiling for Madison. If he had a season like Cook, I know a lot of people believe Cook lost a step. But that's kind of the landscape for Alexander Madison. Let's take a quick break and move on to our number 19 running back. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives you that coverage. For more than 65 years, Securian Canada has been helping Canadians

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Securian Canada, insurance designed for life. All right, at number 19, we recently revealed a quote from him on the show. Kenneth Walker III, just 22.8 years old. The RB15 right now, by way of ADP, we all have him below that at 17. That's where I have him Mike at 20 Jason at 21 he makes me feel so stupid me or Kenneth Walker Kenneth Walker Kenneth Walker makes me feel so dumb explain I'm terrified to draft him because I love Charbonnet and we've talked about the fact that he's a pass catching back. Charbonnet is. He's a bigger move the pile type of back.

So goal line, touchdown, receiving, second round draft capital. And so I'm so terrified to draft Kenneth Walker. And in the end, that could be just outrageously dumb. Because what did we see last year? We saw a young, stud, awesome running back who was like a top five fantasy running back, and he's on a great offense. We should love Kenneth Walker. We should want him on our team.

It feels like there weren't really problems with Kenneth Walker until Zach Charbonnet was drafted, and because he was drafted, we're going to find problems with Kenneth Walker. It feels a little bit like that. And we have talked extensively, and we'll repeat it because a lot more people listening here in August. But we know some things about Seattle.

The running backs get hurt. They draft first-round running backs all the time. And we don't know exactly how that first round running back is going to have uh what kind of impact they're going to have you know you had chris carson who when rashad penny was drafted people faded him and then he was really effective it it's a very difficult situation because like you said we could all look really really dumb to have him down in the fourth round here and kenneth walker could easily finish as the number five running back on the season.

Yes. Only, and all that has to happen is the team has to give him a bunch of work and say that Zach Charbonnet is more of a compliment. The only threat to Walker is Charbonnet being a kind of a timeshare 50-50 type of back, which we don't have. Right now we've had injury to Charbonnet in training camp. We don't have a reason to believe, and Walker, but we don't have a reason to believe that Charbonnet is going to have

that opportunity, or maybe that opportunity happens 10 weeks into the season and you lose 10 weeks of great Kenneth Walker play because of fear. So it's tough. Walker's so young, so dynamic. He's fun to have in fantasy because big plays can win you a week. Yeah, he's a home run hitting running back who was not tremendous in short yardage. So last year, here's some of the inefficiencies.

You had 17 carries inside the 10, only two rushing touchdowns. That's not the numbers that you want to see. 24% of his carries failed to gain a single yard. That puts him at 63rd among running backs. And so it's just, does Pete Carroll look at that? Was that part of the reason of like, well, I'm going to get Zach Charbonnet on this team because Walker is, he's not as big as Zach Charbonnet, and he's not as smooth catching the ball.

So there are huge concerns, but because of the home run ability of Kenneth Walker, you can have weeks where his fantasy finish will outproduce the actual volume that he had, which will make him volatile. He could be at 14 carries, but one of those carries could be a 30-plus yard rushing touchdown because that's the type of player that he is. So it's going to be up and down. It's pretty scary. But there's also the stuff of Seattle, like Andy was saying. Chris Carson was still the guy, despite the drafting of Rashad Penny

in the first round. So Kenneth Walker could still be the guy. That could end up that way. There's been commentary from the local beat reporters to that end. Right. The expectation is that Kenneth Walker is going to get the majority of the work. Like that just came out last week. So it is a really tough situation because, you know,

we're not going to talk about Zach Charbonnet today or tomorrow. Right. He's not part of the top 20. But he's a tough decision by extension of the kenneth walker thing and um he's going to be too expensive in drafts to comfortably handcuff i mean maybe you do it no but that's not i hate that i hate that situation two uh high draft capital running backs on the same team is just not a fun situation to manage in managed leagues. I find at his ADP right now, I have been passing on Kenneth Walker.

This is why I say I'm scared. Because you don't have the exposure maybe you need. Exactly. I will regret having passed on him so much. And in hindsight, I'll look back and go, I should have known better. Would he have been number two in dynasty running back rankings, startup rankings, if the Charbonnet pick hadn't happened? If he was all alone.

Would it be Bijan Walker? Probably. That's what I think. I can say top five for sure off the top of my head, but very possibly at number two in the ADP zone where he is currently on sleeper. You're talking about the Jameer Gibbs zone, Aaron Jones, Joe Mixon. So if you're taking a running back right there, it's between those four guys,

and that's a really tough decision. I would be – I'm okay with that ADP, i i'd be excited to have him as my rb2 but i would be also i'd be with jason and the fact that i would just be holding my breath every week um we what was it chris carson started the fumble and the fumble situation in seattle and all of a sudden it was uh it was somebody else's turn so So number 18, Travis Etienne of the Jacksonville Jaguars, 24 years old. He's our RB18, which is below ADP. His ADP is RB13. I've got him at 15, Jason at 19, Mike at 21.

So even though I am the highest and above our ranking as a group, I'm still below ADP. He is a great talent. There's a lot of weapons in this offense. My main concern is related to touchdown upside and potential for him. I think it's going to come through the air and through big plays. He wasn't great near the goal line last year, and Tank Bigsby is a tank. Yes. He is a monster and I think he's going to get all that work. I really do. The early reports out of camp

have been very positive on Tank Bigsby. He had 14 carries. This is Travis Etienne. Inside the five, he only scored three times. The similarities between Kenneth Walker and Travis Etienne are just astounding. They are both exceptionally explosive athletes that on any touch can house it, who last year, both guys had stretches where you thought this is the future of the position for fantasy football. And then both of these players ended up having their teams draft a day to pick on a talented running back who's seemingly going to take goal line carries away from them because neither one of them were great in the goal line situation so very very similar I you know if I have to choose between these guys I like Etienne a little bit better the the fact that he is coming back to year two off of his season-ending injury two

years ago, I like that a lot. And the Jacksonville Jaguars offense, I think, takes a big step forward. So both of these guys are very, very similar. There was a run last year. This is the potential of Travis Etienne in this offense, and you going to see it it may not be consistent but you're going to see it he had a run week five through eight last year 7.1 a carry 8.6 a carry 8.1 a carry 6.5 a carry Jamal Charles was reborn for four weeks with Travis Etienne last year it was ripping off it's 50 yard runs every week exactly what it looked like though shot out of a cannon started to get banged up a little bit, played 8% of snaps in Week 12, didn't really produce from that point on, and it was, you know, no touchdowns.

I mean, he only scored five on the year, and four of them came in a three-week span, and so that is the concern, is that without a big play and without the team transitioning to passing him the ball more, which I think he's completely capable of being. Like if you made him Austin Eckler, like in the offense, he would be fine. In college. But it's a matter of do they do that. In college, with Trevor Lawrence, he was an amazing pass-catching running back.

In the NFL, he's actually been a little bit inefficient in the pass-catching work, but I think that's silly. He has the tools and the ability to be a pass catching back. Okay. So, Mike, any other thoughts on Mr. Etienne here? He starts with Indianapolis, then Kansas City, Houston, Atlanta. Okay. That's not a bad four-pack to start the season.

I'm in agreement with Jason here. I think that him and Kenneth Walker are very similar archetypes. It seems like their journey in the NFL, they're just holding hands, skipping down the meadows. I have Walker one spot ahead of Travis Etienne, so I slightly like Kenneth Walker a little bit more, but not by a wide margin. James Conner comes in at 17. The one slightly sparkling jewel in the toilet of the Cardinals. You look in that toilet and you go, oh, no. There's a diamond in there.

You put like a disco ball light attached to your toilet. Are you going in after the diamond? Yeah. That's the question. Are you going? If you look in that dirty toilet... This is a used toilet. Oh, come on.

Look, it's the Cardinals. It's a used toilet. This is too much. If you look in that used toilet... Hold on. ...and you see like an engagement, a diamond ring... Yeah. ...are you going after it?

Are you flushing? Of course you're going after it. Okay. You can wash your hands five times. Did you see the highlight play? Yes. That's going around.? Are you flushing? Of course you're going after it. Okay. You can wash your hands five times. Did you see the highlight play? Yes. That's going around. Of course you did.

I saw it. It was also tagged in it many, many times. The Cardinals took about 45 minutes to snap the ball, and then when he threw the ball, it hit the defender in the back of the head. Yeah. It looked real good. It was awesome. So are you with me, are you going are you diving in

jason is for sure i am you got him at 13 i'm at 16 mike at 23 and he's being drafted at 23 so we are are we should we leave it in the toilet are we like cardinal biased fans here with james connor i think it's fair to be accused of that simply because when you are high on a player that is from your home team, it can look like that. You don't get high on your own supply, man. They're a local team. The nice thing, though, is his ADP is not outrageous. It's not someone that, you know, I'm not drafting him as a top 15 running back. I wouldn't do that. He carries a lot of risk. You worry about the offense as a whole without Kyler to start, and you worry about his inability to finish complete seasons. That being said, last year when Kyler went out in week 10, I mean,

you had James Conner from week nine through 17. That is most of the time that Kyler was gone, and it was a bad offense. He was the running back five in fantasy. Like, he got it done, and the reason he got it done is because he was there, and he's really good. So if you've got a guy that can get goal line, who can catch the ball, who has no competition, it kind of doesn't matter that you're on a bad offense 68 reception pace in that run that's the situation you find with James Connor yeah is he going to have a touchdown

regression yeah probably he probably won't score as often as he did well he didn't even score last year there's there's also the world though where Kyler misses the first two, three weeks, but then he's back, and the offense is okay, and they score more points, and all of a sudden you've got a guy in the running back 20s who does have running back one upside. Look, we all have them ranked where we'd rather take him two rounds later than ETN and get the value there, also i have fears because the first eight weeks last year were a complete bust like james connor was talked about this exact way this exact way in

the offseason and he was a bust for fantasy purposes by the time you were playing him in week nine it was you were probably in a different situation and he was on a different fantasy roster so that freaks me out a little bit. Camp reports have been great. I saw some highlight reel catches from James Conner the other day, and he's going to be a good friend to Cole McCoy and Clayton Toon in these really rough, disgusting defeats. The rootin' tootin' shootin' quarterbacks of the Arizona Cardinals. That's right. That's right.

28 years old. Yeah. Is that a warning sign? It's not the best. That's the age cliff there for running backs. He has seen a good amount of work in his career. So I have him ranked where he is going at ADP, which that means that it's a fine pick.

Sixth round. ranked where he is going at ADP, which that means that it's a fine pick. I mean, the thing to look at is we just talked about Travis Etienne at 18, and we're a little bit behind there of his ranking. We have James Conner ranked in front of Etienne, and he's going two rounds later. So to me, that says this is probably a value that I'm going to be interested in, especially if I'm starting heavy wide receiver or onesie positions. Jameer Gibbs comes in at 16, rookie running back for the Detroit Lions. There we go. A young stud running back with, I think, fewer question marks.

I think he's going to be part of their plan from week one. Like, they're designing this offseason for both him and David Montgomery to be a huge part of this offense. I think they'll share snaps together a lot. The reception told us for Jameer Gibbs, like, they're going to be very, very good. Yeah, he is a receiving back, and that matters so much in fantasy football. He's a weapon, Jason. Yeah, he's a weapon first.

He's positionless. These are the quotes being given about Jameer Gibbs. But if you look at what he did as a pass catcher at Alabama, the second most ever receptions for an Alabama running back, he is truly elite. Not only did he catch a lot of passes, but when he caught him, just so effective. He had two drops on 103 catchable targets. He's very, very good. And a running back target is worth two and a half times more than a rush attempt. So if you want to put that in context of like, well,

if you thought about, he only gets 125 carries, right? Cause he's a rush attempt. So if you want to put that in context of like, well, if you thought about he only gets 125 carries, right, because he's a smaller back, he's not going to get a lot of work on the ground, but he gets 70 targets, that is the equivalent of 300 carries for a running back when it comes to fantasy points scored. So you don't need to be afraid of the workload for Gibbs. Say it one more time.

If he were to get 125 rush attempts and 70 targets, it would be about the same opportunity as getting 300 carries alone. From a fantasy point output perspective, that's very helpful. It's a non-traditional – like it's really easy to take B. John Robinson. First and second down, going to catch the ball, three down back, prototypical. Super handsome. Jason's in love. Going to catch the ball. Three down back. Prototypical. Super handsome. Jason's in love. He's a handsome man.

He is. I'm just saying facts. He's well-spoken. I love everything about B. John Robinson. He has a mustard. He does. He's a great all-around fellow. I heard mustache. Oh.

He's got a mustache. He was joint Arthur. No, I think that Jameer Gibbs is going to be a monstrous part of this offense. So we can be excited. Amazingly, we're not alone, though, because we're, consensus-wise, actually lower than ADP. So we might not have him because everybody else is in on Jameer Gibbs in that draft capital. Yeah, I'm right at ADP with him.

I've got him at running back 14. The nice thing is with him, though, if you do go after the chance at Gibbs, there is an unknown upside of truly elite playmaking. If you look at first round draft capital running backs who played at their age 21 season, which is what Jameer Gibbs is, the list is pretty much nonstop superstars and Clyde Edwards Allure. Who still finished as running back 22. Yes, he was okay, but it's Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, Clyde Arzuler.

And now this year we've got two guys in Bijon and Gibbs. Fifth-ranked offensive line. It's going to be a huge upgrade for both Gibbs and David Montgomery. Coming in at 15 is Mike. No, I'm not at 15. So the quote from Brad Holmes, the GM, said, I view him first as a weapon. If he's a weapon weapon forget the RB position he's an elite explosive positionless player which I'm sure Jameer Gibbs

has documented that statement and printed it out everywhere it would be how I would present it when my fifth year option is coming up yeah whoops Brad sometimes you just don't need to talk if you're a GM today, what you should be saying is he is definitely just a running back. Just a run of the mill. Can find him anywhere running back. Oh, no. The tune will change here

in about two years. Right now, he's on his rookie contract. Oh, he's not even a running back. Build him up. Build the young man up. ETN had a lot of comments about what you can control as a running back right now, and his biggest one was be a weapon in the passing game. Christian McCaffrey got paid because he's more versatile. All right, 15 is Brees Hall.

He is being drafted as the RB10. The people are not afraid. Mike has him at 11, Jason at 15. I'm at 19. We have a wide range of opinions on Brees Hall. We may have a wide range of rankings, but I don't think, I think we have the same view in the fact that, look, we know the variables.

The variables here are, do they add another back? Which this morning, there was a lot more talk about Ezekiel Elliott than there was Dalvin Cook, that the team remains very interested in Zeke, which I didn't realize that, and that nothing's happened with the Dalvin Cook side. So do they add another back? And then how healthy are you?

I mean, this is not something that we're going to be able to get on here and solve this problem for you. We can't come on here. We can tell you what we do, but I can't tell you whether or not he's going to show up week one and look like himself whether he looks like himself in week five um i would feel a lot better about zeke going there than dalvin cook because i like i would feel like breeze hall is going to win out quicker um than maybe the Dalvin Cook situation.

But ultimately, we have a wide range of outcomes here because you don't know what you're getting in the beginning of this year. And we know that the beginning of the year, not only is he coming back from injury, and there might be another back, but it's a brutal schedule. It's Buffalo, Dallas, New England, Kansas City to start the year, with I think three more tough games, like Denver right after that. Yeah, it's not a fun opening schedule for them uh you've got the injury that will take him a little while to get all the

way up to full strength so I think when you draft him you are drafting a guy where your expectation to start the season has to be a little bit nerfed but this is also what happened last year last year you go well he might get off to a slow start, might not be the number one running back week one, which he wasn't. It was week two where he started getting a little bit more involved. And from week two on until he got injured, he was the running back four in fantasy football. He was unbelievable every week, ripping off great runs, still had a couple of runs that were like stopped at the one yard line. He could have had even better fantasy finishes. He finishes the running back

21 in the last week of his season where he played 20% of snaps. The upside is what we saw. It's a top five running back in an offense that should be better with Aaron Rodgers, but you're getting off to a slow start. And obviously over the last year and a half, I've been Mr. Brees Hall. Love Brees Hall. Love the talent. My favorite running back prospect that I've scouted in a long time. But I've been primarily more negative this offseason because I think that slow start and the fact that they have really kicked the tires on other running backs has said

I'm not really willing to draft him where his ADP is, but the upside, I want that case made clear. He's a top five running back. Mike, what does it say to you when teams like the Jets kick the tires on Cook and Zeke when you hear like Denver, right? We're excited about Javante's return, and he's going to get to play in the preseason, and then you get the report this morning that they're interested in Josh Jacobs.

Like, is there anything to read into the teams is this just depth you know insurance you know you spend all this money on aaron rogers you have to have insurance in the backfield yes they i think that's the the huge part of it is over the next two years the new york jets are all in on a singular goal and that is to get to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl. So they have to prepare their team. It's a nice new goal for them. Yeah, it is. And look at the depth chart.

It's like Michael Carter, he is a limited player. He can help you on a football team, but you need more than that. And they got a band of Kanda. But he's a rookie. They got to work him in. So I don't mind the fact that they're looking at these veteran players because they need to have a veteran presence. The drafting of Brees Hall is for the long term of the fantasy football season.

Do not fall into the trap of, well, you know what? I'm not going to draft Brees Hall and then I'm going to trade for him. I don't think that that's going to work out very well because the player holding Brees Hall knows what they are getting themselves into. And it's also a bet on yourself as a fantasy football player that I can find enough running backs later on in the draft or on the waiver wire that I'm going to fill my running back two spot for a month or whatever it takes because Brees Hall had bad matchups last year, and he was incredible.

The offenses should be so much better. So I'm good currently with where the depth chart is. I mean, if someone is at it, then we'll reevaluate. But the way it stands right now, it is a very high-risk pick at the beginning of the third, but this is a pick that over the second half of the season is someone who can turn into a league-winning type of player. And it's very difficult to find someone that you say,

yep, that guy can actually win the league for me. Agreed. All right, Aaron Jones at 14. Packers running back being drafted in the fourth round at RB16. I got him at 11. So I'm the highest of the bunch. Mike at 15, Jason at 18. We've been around the block with Aaron Jones.

At times it feels like the comment I made about Stefan Diggs where it's like we're just bored we're just bored with the excellence that Aaron Jones provides the touchdown situation was really really good for a four-year run he's you know past 28 years old Aaron Rodgers is not there and the touchdowns have not flowed the past couple years for Aaron Jones, but the talent on the field has been there. If you're right about, like, you know, is Jordan Love being underrated? Is this a division-winning team? If those things come true,

I can't help but think he's going to outpace his RB16 draft position. Jones did have a very nice catch. I mean, the catch was fine, his RB16 draft position. Jones did have a very nice catch. I mean, the catch was fine, but it was a really nice throw by Jordan Love in the 11-on-11 practice that I was talking about. So Aaron Jones is incredibly difficult because he's going to be turning 29, and there aren't that many running backs

that hit that level of an age, and they're still super productive for fantasy football, especially when you throw in the fact that, yeah, I can have some confidence that Jordan Love, it's not going to be miserable, but I'm not going to project that Jordan Love carries this offense the way that Rodgers did, so that brings down the ceiling. Now, he's about the same age as Austin Eckler, and he's a similar skill set in terms of

being explosive in the passing game. Well, huge difference to me is, is the expectation of targets coming for this season. I mean, Austin Eckler is someone that's usually up in the a hundred target level. Whereas Aaron Jones last year was 72 targets. And I haven't projected for 60 targets this season. I think that number comes down without Aaron Rodgers. I think the value of each one of those targets comes down a little bit. And so at age 29, what we expect to be a slightly worse offense, and I also expect him to be slightly less involved in the passing game. I mean, 60 targets is still very involved, but less involved than he was. I personally, I mean, I've got him behind ADP. I don't see him. I think this is the year where he's good, but not great. This was the RB9 last year.

He's been 2-5-12-9 the last four years. I didn't realize he had finished that high. I don't agree with the target thing just because I think he's the best friend of a young quarterback in that situation. So I would expect his targets to be at or above. Yeah, I mean the way that Aaron Rodgers has utilized Aaron Jones in the passing game the last few years has just been so in sync that I I would imagine a change is going to be bad that's not a guarantee

but um losing Aaron Rodgers I mean he was the yard catch was pathetic I mean that was the problem is he's at 395 total yards on 59 catches. But even around the goal line, that's where there were just plays set up really well for him. He had five receiving touchdowns, which obviously is very high for a running back. Six the year before, two, three. Yeah, I think Aaron Jones is one of those players that, you know,

if we believe in the Packers, then we can find the statistical backing to love Aaron Jones. And if we don't believe in Jordan Love or this offense to the same degree that we did with Aaron Rogers, then there's lots of reasons to downgrade all the offensive pieces. I mean, AJ Dillon, disappointment last year. You can see reasons not to like him. Dobbs is young. Watson's young. It's going to go as far as Mr. Jordan Love can take it ultimately because so much hinges on that quarterback position. At miles sanders we have him well above adp as our his uh adp is running back 19 jason has him at 12 mike and i at 14 he's off to carolina after four years with the eagles his pant his fantasy peak in his career is rb 13 tell us why you like him jason yeah i like him because he projects to have the backfield mostly to himself Chuba Hubbard will

be there and will be worked in he's not going to be you know a Josh Jacobs level uh target market share carry share uh back but he is being brought in to be a three down workhorse back he's being paid like that as well and the I've brought up the fact that the head coach, the general manager, and Miles Sanders were talking about getting him 50 receptions this year, that they want him involved in the passing game. And he's a very talented back. I mean, last year he was inconsistent because, you know, the vulturing of the touchdowns and the uninvolvement in the passing game. So you didn't really have a great experience with Miles Sanders last year, but he was very good. That was when he was the running back 13, had double digit

touchdowns, great on a yards per carry. Now you go to a team that has a good offensive line. He's going to get a ton of volume. He's still young. He's being paid to be the guy. And so I just kind of see a value for where he's going right now in fantasy. If he's going to be the guy. And so I just kind of see a value for where he's going right now in fantasy. If he's going to be touching the ball 300 times, I mean, it's going to be very hard to be bad. I see a lot of polarization around Miles Sanders. And I don't know if it comes from people being burnt by the kind of inconsistency that we've had from him forever and all the expectations, so now they don't want a piece of that,

or if they just don't believe in this rookie-led offense under Frank Reich. Yeah, the red flags for Miles Sanders would be that there's a rookie starting at quarterback in week one. Since 2014, teams that started a rookie QB in week one, they averaged four and a half wins. None of them surpassed their win totals. Their running backs, only Doug Martin finished better than a running back 24. Rookie quarterbacks with nine plus starts.

Targeted running backs at just over 21%, which is slightly above the NFL average. And that's what we are betting on. Also the fact that this will be a very interesting input for all of these statistics because the Panthers are in a division of there's no clear like there's there's not the juggernaut of that division right now. It seems like anyone right now if things break in the in the right direction for that team, if they are the healthiest team, they could win the division. And they could win the division with seven or eight wins.

All right. Number 12, my favorite running back of this bunch today, Joe Mixon. Back in Cincinnati, took the discount to come back. The RB 17 by ADP. Jason talked about it. Lagging ADP. I think that's going to be the case leading right into the season. The RB17 by ADP, Jason talked about it, lagging ADP. I think that's going to be the case leading right into the season.

This one is like the most flashing light, obvious, better than ADP situation in my mind. You're on a football team that is expected to compete for a Super Bowl. You don't have anybody currently competent in the backfield beyond Joe Mixon, who has had productive fantasy seasons, who is a talented player. He may not be the most talented, but this is that, like, Josh Jacobs of last year right in my face situation, where I am at nine. It's not insane.

Finished at 12 last year. Three the year before. Yeah, I just like, you know, Travion Williams is hurt. Chase Brown's a rookie. Chris Evans, he's a jag. He's come in at times and just filled the role of giving a breather. I mean, Samajay Piran's a good player who earned third downs all the time. Joe Mixon is going to catch so many more passes

than you think he's going to catch this year. That's my opinion. I think people would be surprised to remember that last year Joe Mixon had 75 targets. He was extremely involved in the passing game. 60 receptions. Yeah, and now you lose Samaj P. Ryan. Joe Mixon is going to get an immense amount of volume for a

great offense. There's not much, I mean, you could only say, well, he was inefficient last year. I don't believe he's getting better. I think he's getting worse. I think he's going to be inefficient this year. If he's inefficient this year, where you're drafting him, that's where he's going to finish. That's like his floor. He's being drafted at his floor. And even though that's where he's going to finish that's like his floor he's being drafted at his floor and even though that's kind of where I have him ranked I completely see the the risk reward here is you're drafting him basically where he finishes if he plays poorly and if he plays good or even just gets lucky opportunities you know touchdown wise because you know two years ago he had 13 rushing touchdowns that's super in the cards for him again with the Joe Burrow-led Bengals.

The target total you gave is, with him missing games due to injury, I mean his target pace on the year was 90 for just last season that we had him with Samaj AP run. He would have caught 73 passes. Still, he was not efficient on the ground. I mean that is the truth of the matter, this is like you're joe burrows guy in the backfield you're gonna play as far as we know you're gonna play on third down that's the variable for some reason they pull them off for somebody else but i don't know this one's one of my favorite values in the draft right now yep i'm not gonna disagree the i think you have them ranked right around 10 too yeah i think last year mixon was what like an early second round pick so there's possibility

that that is also baked in a huge over the summer we didn't know is joe mixon even going to be on this team so i think that's the biggest contributor to why his adP is so low. But for what is supposed to be like the dead zone of drafts, this is a clear starting running back on a high-powered offense. There was news that came out that he's going to be civilly sued. Sure, yeah, yeah. And that could open him up to a NFL suspension. It could. Not now, but later.

The way that the NFL has handled these types of cases, this seems like even if he is everything, he loses in court, the suspension would likely be next year. Number 11, the last name

we'll talk about at running back today, Najee Harris, Steel at running back today, Najee Harris. Steelers running back. He's being drafted at the RB12 right now. Jason has him at 10. I've got him at 11. Mike at 13.

So we all are pretty comfortable with that spot. He feels – I think one of the challenges here with Najee Harris is it just doesn't feel like the sexy pick. Yeah, that's fair. It doesn't feel that way to me. I don't take him in mocks because I'm staring down Jameer Gibbs or something. And it's like, oh, I want to take the unknown, younger, more explosive, more efficient opportunity. Whereas Najee Harris is the pick that my league mates make.

And then they just get week-to-week production from, and I'm just like, I should have done it. That's kind of what happens. And right now, he's going to be the guy. I know Jalen Warren, we like him as a sneaky opportunity type of player, but Najee Harris has a pretty strong stranglehold on this backfield. Yeah, he's going to get a ton of work. I love Jalen Warren.

I think you can like both of these players at their ADP to succeed. Last year, he had the foot problem midway through the season, got the plate removed, and all of a sudden... From his shoe. Yes, from his shoe. He took the plate out that he was playing with. He said that was the last step to kind of be recovered from the injury. And he was really good the second half of the season. Now, a lot of that came in touchdowns being there, whereas they weren't in the first half. So maybe it wasn't just all efficiency, but I think that that gives you an example. What he did the second half gives you an example of how good he can be with Jalen Warren on an offense that will score more this year than they did last year. I think we can universally agree that that's the most likely outcome is that the Steelers offense is just simply better this year than last year,

not necessarily that they're going to be great, but that's more scoring opportunities for Najee. He catches the ball. He's just a really well-rounded running back. And I, I agree. He's not sexy. I don't think he's got top three upside, not on this offense, but he's going to get the ball a lot in every,

he's which way. Yeah. He's like, he's like, um, I don't know. Walmart, Nick Chubb.

Oh, I mean, I'm being, I'm being honest. Like it's the volume you're into. Like I was just, you won Chubb. I mean, I'm being honest. Like, it's the volume you're into. Like, I was just, you won't like the comparison here either, but, like, looking up Cedric Benson, like, the efficiency numbers are very similar to what Najee's was,

but guess what? 321 attempts, 273 attempts. Like, Najee has a nose for the end zone, and they also just give him the ball in situations where I think maybe the efficiency will never show up on the stat sheet. You know, it's the fourth and one, dive play. It's the goal line. Like, he's probably never going to be a five-a-carry type of guy,

but he's always going to be on the field, and we need to respect that as a fan, and I'm talking to myself. Like, I need to respect it as a fantasy player. Yeah, to me, the comp for me has always been Melvin Gordon um obviously now that feels bad because Melvin Gordon's older but Melvin Gordon you know his first couple years in the league 3.9 to carry 3.9 to carry 3.5 to carry also the running back seven the running back five the running back seven also had Austin Eckler coming in and stealing something like it there's a lot of comps there where it's just this is an actually talented running back who for not fantasy,

but for NFL purposes, he's moving the chains. He's getting it done. He's picking up the yards. He needs to, he's just not necessarily ripping off a 30, 40 yard run and house calling for awesome fantasy value in a, in an exciting play,

but he will volume his way to being an effective fantasy asset. And the Steelers offense should be better. Like over that second half where Najee was better for fantasy football, what's the real reason behind that? He took the play out of the shoe, he was healthy and ready to go? Or did that contribute to, like, that was a big factor of the Steelers' offense being better? Or was the Steelers' offense better? That made Najee better? But Kenny Pickett, just a remarkable rookie season.

1.8% of his passing attempts turned into a touchdown. That is the lowest since 1990 of quarterbacks who have started 12 games. But that should positively regress to, like, That is the lowest since 1990 of quarterbacks who have started 12 games. But that should positively regress to, like, even if we get league average from Kenny Pickett. Even if you get well below league average. Like, if you get well below league average, it's a huge increase. Yes. The division is brutal.

Yeah, there is that. The division is really annoying in a lot of ways because it's like you could see any of the teams winning the division, like legitimately. Like even I have my order, and I could see it going completely differently because it's just a brutal, brutal, like Pittsburgh could dominate it,

and I wouldn't be shocked. Cincinnati should run away with it. Wouldn't be shocked. Baltimore, great opportunity. And I believe that Cleveland has what it takes defensively, offensively. It's going to be really wild. Tomorrow we have the top ten running backs on the show.

We'll be moving into quarterbacks later in the week. We've got preseason power-up on Thursday. We've got a mock draft again this week. So much going on. And please, like we said at the top, go check out the Ultimate Draft Kit. It's going to equip you to win on draft day drafts are coming i planned a few this past week scheduled some times it's go time we're gonna have full preseason football here soon as well

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