Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - RB Rankings Countdown: 20-11 + Preseason Reactions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/11

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Aug 11, 2025. Which mid-round RBs will be steals in fantasy football drafts?! RB rankings countdown from 20 to 11 on today’s show! Find out who would outperform their draft cost for the 2025 fantasy football season! Plus, reactions and injury updates from Week 1 of preseason action. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT + Draft Analyzer available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Intro(10:04) NFL News(17:31) Running Back Rankings Countdown: 20-11(19:59) Joe Mixon(23:00) Kenneth Walker(31:50) Breece Hall(36:47) Chuba Hubbard(39:47) James Cook(44:44) Omarion Hampton(48:13) James Conner(49:45) Alvin Kamara(53:00) Jonathan Taylor(57:23) Kyren WilliamsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Monday, August 11th, the fantasy footballers podcast, Jason Moore, Mike Wright. I'm Andy Holloway. Thank you for joining us. It's a big week in the world of fantasy football in the NFL. We got the first week of preseason football in the books,

not without its own slew of. Injuries, which, you know, they just, you know, I'm not saying anything breaking news here. They just suck. They just, injuries are the worst because they disrupt so much. I mean, for the player themselves, thank goodness they get these guaranteed contracts and get the money because their bodies get broken all the time. It's a brutal game. But it really decides, I mean, not only fantasy football, but it decides at the end of the NFL. like when you look at the end of the year it's like oh who it really is yeah and was healthy this

year well guess who made a playoff run yeah i mean if you just look at injuries for like super bowl teams yeah teams that get to the super bowl usually have extreme injury luck um historically speaking so yeah i mean it's it's it's a real thing and i think the biggest problem with injuries obviously players health is one thing but the biggest thing is our analysis can't be proven right or wrong and you know what I mean like that's why you just check it up is right just broaden that out to everybody not just ours like the your your draft you can draft the perfect team and be disrupted like I so many things have happened this past week that are that throw that little bit of fear into your mind about certain situations you love the running game in los angeles

with the chargers and then rashan slater goes down and like I am a big fan of jordan love and what he can bring to the fantasy world and then you hear about Jaden Reed being hurt and it didn't look great in week one. So our job here is to help you sift through the under and overreactions. I had a quick laundry list of takeaways from the weekend. I'm going to just blitz these. You guys give me any feedback or if you have anything else. I'm going to take a quick nap.

Started with Chador Sanders. Obviously played well enough to hopefully make a roster there. It was nice to see. Trayvion Henderson. Oh. That's very, very bad. very bad for his draft price. Why? What happened? Why? What happened?

He was very good. His first NFL touch, 100-yard kickoff return. Weird. Very, very good. But also, I remain unsurprised. Yeah, he looked great. He was dishing out pain in that game. Well, him and

Romandre both looked very good. Yeah, Ramonred did look good. The next takeaway, the Giants defense might be unstoppable. Their front five. I mean, It's pressure on every play. Like if I had to pick like a situation that no one sees coming, that team has a horrible schedule, an offense we don't have trust in, and I am not, I will not be surprised that the Giants defense just carries. Caries.

Jason won't like this takeaway. I don't like it already. I watched the film. I watched every snap, not just every touch, twice. Not impressed with Caleb Johnson in Pittsburgh. this weekend. I thought in particular it was like the most solidifying for Jalen

Warren's situation in the passing game. He had a brutal drop. He had two more Jordan Howard catches is what I'm going to call him. That did not look natural to me. And then I thought he was fine otherwise, but didn't look special. Tage Spears, the injury. Yeah, that's a big

that's a big one. A high ankle sprain. Yeah, I mean that's and this has kind of been Taji Spears storyline. It's been opportunities about to there and then you get banged up. But Tony Pollard, how often have we talked about Tony Pollard in the last six months? Not very much. And I just, I kept

seeing him like feeling uncomfortably high in the rankings. I'm like, oh, Tony Pollard still up there where I'm telling people to draft him. Yeah. And then, you know, maybe bailed out by that Spears injury. Yeah, so Spears, it's a high uncle sprain

and we'll deal with that. Justin Fields. It was a nice debut for Justin Fields. And then, of course, ends the way, Justin Fields ends drives with a rushing touchdown. So it was a nice start for Fields for New York. I don't know. Did you guys watch all the RJ Harvey touches? I have not watched them yet.

Yeah, I saw them. Yeah, to me, that was another situation where I was like, I mean, he had some good plays. But from a reading the defense standpoint, this looked like a college player to me. Like he did not ever take what was in front of him, and he only bounced it outside. It takes, when running backs are,

more special players it takes time for them to realize they can't get away with certain things and the that was the I think the the biggest surprise based off of what boots on the ground in Denver were saying the biggest surprise of the weekend was the complete inverse of well RJ Harvey is taking all these snaps and it's like Dobbins is filling in on third and so wasn't this could it be helmet gate getting the start you know maybe Dobbins couldn't find his helmet something like that was going around. I've heard that being tossed around on Twitter. I don't know for sure, but that was the most... You get

Wally pipped? Just by... With a helmet? Just with the helmet? Like, I forgot my helmet and I never make it back on the field. But that, like, that's a huge deal of Harvey's ADP remains. And then we got, we have breaking, ironically, the last thing on my list from the weekend now has breaking news attached

to it. But I was going to talk about Ollie Gordon, the dolphins, the running game, the offensive line struggles on the goal line. And then I was going to talk about Madison getting hurt. We just got breaking news. Did they actually? Alexander Madison underwent season ending. Oh, no. Season ending neck surgery.

Oh! He actually had to go to a hospital after injuring his neck during the game against the Bears and is done. And he was like the whole storyline with the dolphins this offseason was like, we took Jalen right away from our sleepers. Yes. A couple, maybe he goes back, I don't know, but a couple days ago, although he played terribly. Because Madison was having

a good camp. Yeah, the drum beat was very steady, very loud. I saw, before I heard that, Andy, they were working out Jamal Williams. Oh, they're definitely adding, I thought they'd add it back just with a short-term injury to Madison. Now they definitely will. So that is a situation

to Mon. Yeah, we'll see. And Ollie Gordon, I think, is a name that's worth paying attention to. There hasn't been much buzz because it's been Madison, but he, like, I think he's a better player than Jalen Wright. He looked good. He's not as, he doesn't have the the same explosive high-end speed,

but I think he's a better player. He was a really productive young college running back who was expected to be like a very big draft pick and then had kind of a disappointing last season, but he's worth paying attention to. The only other notes I would add in, Brees Hall seems like he's full-time share. He was splitting just like we feared.

And we might have, it might be three dudes. Yeah, oh yeah. Braylon Allen and Davis. Yeah. Like if that's the case, Do you guys see the Isaiah Davis 5,000 IQ play on the touchdown by fields? Yeah. Where he like, he was out there running around.

He was one of those situations where he knew his quarterback was about to run. So he just faked like he was getting a wheel route. And the defender just bit and chasing down the field. It was awesome. Do you see Marvin Mims was actually playing a full slot of snaps with an offense not being used as just. A slot of snaps? Like was he in the sloth? lot? No, just, the point is

he wasn't a gadget guy coming in every sixth play. Gotcha. For, you know, it's like, with that and the Harvey, I guess Sean Peyton giving us the Joker, he's just tricking everybody. Probably. Yeah, he's kind of the worst.

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around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. Well, I mentioned Taj Spears. He's going to miss a few weeks with the high ankle sprain. And so once again, we won't get really a fair dynamic in terms of like who's going to start the year and would this have benefit this same thing happened kind of like would it have been a 50-50

display we'll never know because he's going to have to come back slowly again and he's not as talented or at least wasn't last year no I don't think he is as good as Pollard and this is one of those offenses where when you've got the new 101 rookie quarterback coming in with cam Ward you can you can see how the offense changes from one expected to be terrible to one that's like oh maybe it's a top half offense. So I don't mind taking a shot on Tony Pollard in drafts trying to get off to a hotter start. Also, it's worth noting Chigacanquo. He played more snaps as like a pass catcher. He wasn't rotating quite as much. He played 100% with Cam Ward. Yeah, exactly. So,

you know, a sleeper, tight in, someone to pay attention to if he has a decent week one, pick him up. Mike's chuckling. It was a great end of the year. We've been there with Okonkwo like three straight years. But the reason we've been there with Okonkwo is, is because he is talented. They haven't used him as a full-time pass catcher, which is stupid. Now they are, great. He's had a terrible quarterback. A little bit like Njoku situation.

Yeah, now they might have a quarterback that could get him the ball. So I do think it's still worth paying attention to. Rashad White left his first preseason game with a groin injury. Todd Bulls said that Mr. Richard White, Dick White, will undergo further tests day to day. And Sean Tucker. He's got some juice. And buggy, of course.

Yeah. it makes it could make that a little safer groin index is popping right now guys uh the groin the groin injuries are uh i don't know people's groins were not warmed up before the preseason pierce rashad white russia rice jordan murray marcia and lloyd rashi rice right at practice yeah ricekees back of practice well i don't care he's still on the index right now groin index dot com and we have a more we know whether it's really hurting 100% uh jaden because we got the quotes from the players yeah Oh, I thought we had, like, what was Richie Rice say? That was right.

That was one of the quotes. My groin? Yeah. My groin. So look, you got to listen to the players. Jaden Reed was seen in a walking boot on his left foot. He's dealing with a foot sprain. Matt LaFour actually came out and talked about it.

Said it's something different than what they put him on NFI list to start training camp. Hopefully we get him back before the regular season. Is that good or bad? This is a totally new injury. I guess that's good. When asked if Reed could miss week one, LaFleur said, potentially. So that sounds like, oh, that turns into a likely for me. Yeah.

So here's the way that, you know, going into preseason, going into the season, you get a lot less updates and clarity on injuries as you do once you're into the season and practice reports. So I get a little hesitant with all these guys with Taj Spears, with Jaden Reed. I will definitely avoid drafting them at their current. ADP for sure, and I will expect that they might miss week one. We did get more positive, or some positive news finally, about Matthew Stafford. He worked out on Saturday through about 60 passes and is expected to return to limited drills in practice on Monday.

So the plan, if the plan was managed Stafford so he can play, going according to plan, maybe? Yeah, I think going according to their new plan. Okay, all right. Alan Lazard injured his shoulder. He plays for the Jets in case he. you were curious. Keaton Mitchell missed Saturday's practice with an undisclosed injury.

This was after a preseason kind of break out there. They signed Miles Gaskin. Does he run too fast? Is that the issue? He's Mitchell? Yeah. He is very fast. He's so fast.

Slow down, you're thinking? Yeah. Go one leg? I would still use both personally. Miles Gaskin, the gas man, worked out for the team signed with the Ravens. Anthony Richardson was seen participating in individual drills on Saturday. That's good. Is it, though?

No, I think it's great. Anthony Richardson was... I know. I just... He was looking really good. You want to drag out the process of Richardson not being the starter? Do you want it just concise and quick and easy? No, I want Richardson to be the starter and I want him to be good. So in order for him to do that...

Oh, well, those two things are mutually exclusive. He has to be able to play football. That's a pre-Ritchison. I do not want him to be the starter. I want Daniel Jones to be the starter. I know is that because of Josh Downs. Yeah. I almost said Dobbs. Downs, yeah.

James Cook Not willing to play in Saturday's preseason game That was the quote from Sean McDermott So like he was able but unwilling He dressed took part in warm-ups Is he just trying to do the most Like be the biggest nuisance Like you get

It's a strat You get dressed, you get ready And then you go ugh Like your first foot goes over the I'm not going in What if he goes out to the huddle And then runs back in Oh my God

Or runs backwards out of the huddle Just out the back of the stadium My tummy hurts. Just takes a knee, just gets the ball and just goes knee. Just sleeping. I mean, just, I, the problem is I just don't think he has the leverage he thinks he has, but whatever, maybe. Well, he might have the leverage he thinks he has, which is very little. That's why he's going with Plan Operation Nuisance.

Jeff Wilson, Kishon Vaughn, both signed by the 49ers, who... Soon to be injured. Yeah, he's like, Jeff Wilson and Kishon Vaughn are like, should we sign this contract? Because I don't want to go on IR. but Garendo and Jordan James currently out. And I saw that Devante Williams is still getting the most reps with the starters this morning.

That was another piece of news. You had Jaden Blue getting hurt. You had Miles Sanders banged up. So right now it's kind of, if it's everybody's job is nobody's job. Yeah, it sort of feels. I think that's why it's George Pickens and C.D. Lamb's job. All right, that was...

Well, no, there's one more, Andy. Someone didn't practice today. Romandre. oh oh you don't this is a problem you're not going to be able to get him this is a problem you're not going to be able to get travion henderson he won't be available to he's going to start skyrocketing oh man he's going to go one overall the early adopters are being punished well if you already had shares that's good yeah in your dynasty yeah because the value is gone up but we we know nothing about why remandre didn't practice so we will get you that

info when we get it and um he played well looked well which one Romandre Romandre he had a good game and didn't see what he got it He looked good It was well Campbell I mean goodness

gracious Yeah That's why you That's why you draft that way Yeah right Like I mean He had two

Two times I think once with Romandre Once with Henderson Where he pulled And demolished The entire left side of the field It was beautiful All right

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we'll jump into our running back rankings all right it is running back rankings today and tomorrow. Let's get it started. Running bags. All right, we just went through our top 20 wide receivers, consensus rankings on our last couple of episodes before the mock draft. When you're looking at running backs before we kick off the rankings, I mean, there are question marks throughout. I'm sure we'll have some good discussions.

What makes a top 20 fantasy running back historically over the last four years, 70% of top 20 running backs average at least 18 opportunities a game. It's a lot. Need workload, right? 75% of them. So three quarters of the top 20 fantasy running backs needed at least nine total touchdowns. So, you know, get a couple through the air, get at least seven on the ground, you're good. But at least nine total touchdowns, that's what you normally need.

So you've got to, there's some luck and some variation there that happens, and you need touchdowns. and then the last one the top 20 running backs were on NFL teams that average 9.4 wins so those those in that group at least 9.4 wins. It's one of the things I love to focus on at running back. It's a differentiator between two players

but you want to be on a team that can win. Yeah, I mean there are certain players that are good fantasy assets on bad teams but they are not usually running backs. It kind of goes hand in hand with 75% of them have at least nine total touchdowns. If you score a lot of, you know, if your team wins games, you score more points. And you know what it is too?

It's in those of us that have played fantasy for a long time and watch the games. It's those darn first downs, man. Those are just the demoralizing drive killing. Like the bad teams, it's like, oh, awesome. You're going to be the three down back for this team. Cool. You get like one third down for one drive. And then you're off the field.

That's what the most frustrating thing is. When I watch these games and I look at running backs, it's like move the chains oh great now you got another first and second down to hand it off you just need teams that are effective at moving the football it's not that there aren't outliers on bad teams and situations that it works out but that's a big deal so we're going to be looking at workload we're going to be looking at team potential we're going to be looking at the ceiling and floor outcomes for players and let's kick it off right now just hanging on by a thread last year's number one running back for the first four 14 weeks or whatever it was. It's Joe Mixon. Joe Mixing comes in at 20 on the dot right now. It's 20, 23, and 21. That's where the three of us have them ranked.

Finished at 11 last year. 15.9 fancy points per game. He's at 20 because we need to hedge against injury right now. Where Joe Mixon has an injury that, you know, it sort of seems like the Jaden Reed thing. It's like potentially he could miss time. Potentially he could be back. So how are you?

looking at him in your drafts today because it feels like a nerve-wracking pick. It really comes down to where he's going to fall in my draft. I am definitely happy to have Joe Mixon on my roster. He fits everything we just talked about, right? A 9.4 win team. Okay, the Texans seem right there. A huge workload. You know he's going to have that.

Touchdowns, he was on pace for 13.4 rushing touchdowns last year. He fits the bill for everything you want in fantasy football other than currently injured as an elder statesman. So there's risk when you draft him. And if that risk is going to cost me James Connor, who's currently healthy, I'm not going to do that. If that risk is going to, you know, go down to the sixth round where I'm going between him and Isaiah Pacheco, who might not even, you know, really get the volume and the work, he might be losing opportunities, goal line, passing work to Cream Hunt. Okay, then I'm definitely willing to take the risk on someone who, like you said, Andy, The first half of last year, he was the number one running back in fantasy football.

I think the biggest mistake, I think you pay attention to the injuries, you look at the team, you look at the depth chart. The biggest mistake, I think, would be to, like, retire him too early when, you know, Sequin's 28, we have confidence in him. Henry's 31, we have confidence in him. CMC is 29. Mike has tremendous confidence in him. So I'm not worried about the age because we saw what he could do on the field last year. I'm worried about injury. The injury he's coming into the season with. Yeah, he's not off our board.

Like some guys, I think we've talked about Chris Godwin, who you're not sure if he's going to be there week one or not. And this is kind of a somewhat similar situation where Joe Mixen, you're not sure if he's going to be their week one. Godwin's off my board. I don't think I want to struggle with him getting back. This wasn't a season ending injury he's coming back from that he's been rehabbing. This is an offseason ending injury. Offseason ending injury. The first ever offseason ending injury.

Does that mean he, but that would mean he plays now? don't know. We're in the new territory. I think this is one of those situations that you know what it will be like

if he was healthy and on the field and you have a lot of good stuff around him. The offensive line is still a huge issue. I think their defense

will be tremendous, like one of the best in football. So you could have a lot of situations where you are leaning on the running game, but will the offensive

line hold up? They tried to rebuild it. It's not projected to be good, but maybe they can come together. At 19, it's Kenneth Walker. He is just 24 years old, almost 25. We have a pretty big disparity in ranking on Kenneth Walker.

He comes in at 19 by consensus. I've got him at 25, Mike at 16. 25. Jason has him at 20. So, yeah, Mike, I guess, is disgusted by my ranking. I am. I'm personally offended by it. Well, it's really just, I'm just projecting him to be Kenneth Walker.

He finished running back 28 last year. In 11 games. Correct. I'm predicting him to be Kenneth Walker. That is the issue. Identically. But that's silly. He was 15 games in his first two years.

And he was averaging almost 14 and a half points a game. There's tremendous, tremendous upside for Kenneth Walker. Everybody's got players every year that they're like, I'd rather lose with somebody else or win with somebody else. Kenneth Walker has the potential to be a breakout top 12 running back. he is a very weird enigmatic running back not only dealing with injuries but dealing with inefficiency and yet tremendous tackle breaking and capability I don't really know why a number one force tackle rate

mixes with you know the inefficiencies bad offense of line I mean you're getting he is breaking tackles behind the line of scrimmage yeah the scheme has been bad See those numbers and then see who did not retain their job for a winning football team. The O.C. was fired. Like that, when that happens, it's pretty wild. They were, what were they, nine wins?

One of my, nine wins last year? Ten. Ten. Yeah, they tied with the Rams. A 10 win team fired their offensive coordinator. Well, and look, Seattle's a perfect example of bringing in a new offensive coordinator doesn't always make it better, right? literally last year. It was a brand new office coordinator.

We had the same storyline in the off season. Yeah, that's fair. This guy's going to take advantage of the skill set of Kenneth Walker. They still have a 30th ranked offensive line. That's still a question mark. And he has not, he has missed time in every season he's played. So 15, sure.

I want more than that. And I definitely want more than 11. You know, if I tell you that Kenneth Walker's missing, let's just be conservative. Let's say he misses the minimum he's ever missed, two. Does that change? anything for you? If I knew he plays 15 games, I would draft Kenneth Walker where he is. I think he is where he's going where he's going right now. Yeah. I mean, this is this is a

player who I do think that the scheme, we have insights, right? Changing coordinator doesn't always help everybody. And I don't think it helps necessarily the passing game here. But I do think the running game with baby cubes coming in, the fact that they are bringing in a fullback, we've seen that implemented in preseason and in their draft. They want to, establish it and help the running game get going. And I think they've got a proven track record at offensive coordinator to get that done. So if he's healthy, I do believe he scores quite a lot of fantasy points. The issue is, you know, we talk about, oh, Kenneth Walker's being Kenneth Walker. He's going to miss a bunch of games. He's always injured, hard to deal with. Right now currently

dealing with, you know, resting or whatever, but he's missing practices all the time. It's just not a good sign. It makes me very hesitant to take him like right now he's going ahead. of Chuba, a head of James Conner, and ahead of Joe Mixing. The upside case of all three guys hit their ceiling. I don't know if Kenneth's above Mixer. Yeah, I would say Mixen, then Walker. So I guess right now the issue is, do you like him more than those guys with the risk baked in that he has with his history? And the fact that when you get hit a lot behind the line of scrimmage, that might be harder to stay healthy.

Do you know what I mean? That's fair. I think what was frustrating about the injuries is it wasn't just like one injury and a little stretch, too. It was kind of the storyline of the season. He missed two games, comes back. When you get hurt right away after an injury, like when you're on your return and then you just get hurt, that is, that leaves a mark in your memory. No, you're right. I mean, that was kind of like Joe Mixing at the end of the year, too.

Both these guys were not part of a fantasy title team because he had an oblique injury, his first injury last year, missed two weeks with that. then it was a calf ankle injury, then it was IR with calf injury. So look, stay healthy. I don't think we've had any conversations about who would benefit if this scheme is amazing, but he gets hurt. I mean, it's like, I don't think we've mentioned Zach Charbonnet's name at all. Charbonnet. Damien Martinez. Charbonnet finally learned how to kind of step up for fantasy purposes in Walker's absence.

I do believe he's a worthwhile pick later in your drafts. Yeah, that's fine. If you're worried about Kenneth Walker. Would you actively pursue him if you're the Kenneth Walker manager? if you could get them with your last pick. Like, I know we don't often do that, but like, are there a couple situations, whether it was Garindo with CMC or, you know, this one in particular? Possibly, if it's a deep enough roster.

Because if you like the running, like, strategies of this team, maybe that makes sense? Yeah, I mean, I know, and we obviously could be wrong, but we did all currently pick the Seahawks to finish last in this division. So while they were a 10-win team last year, Gino, whether or not they fit that bill of the top 20 running back. Maybe I'll go with Cardinals in last place after watching Kyler's pass. That's fair. That's fair.

Can I change my projection? Sure, absolutely. You didn't like the no look? Honestly, I was thrilled to find out it was no look. Thrilled. I'm thrilled. Because I thought it was just a pass. Not a no look pass. I thought it was a to the defense. It was the kind of pass that made me want somebody to go out there and just say, like, you're done. You're done with football.

He's beta testing some stuff, man. It's like a baseball, like we're going to bring in the reliever. Like, you just call me like, you're done today. The manager should come out and pull the quarterback in that fashion. Yeah, that's what I mean. And they make them give you the football and then they walk off while the crowd boost. Look, no look passes are not as easy as my homes and staff or make them look. I watch that play like six times on replay, not knowing that it was a no look.

and I was like I could not figure out what his attempt was like what were you trying you could always see like oh he overthrew a guy or he thought the receiver was going to go one way got a little messed up what were you trying to do where were you where were you trying to throw this football

to be fair I mean this is something we didn't talk about in the preseason but Kyler like he completed every other pass in the entire game but when that play happened like 50% no no he was like eight for nine I don't get it he completed every other pass he went with it was a dad joke yeah every other pass okay no that took me yeah we got there man i'm

glad i'm anger than you um but literally when that play happened i was like i hate you i was like i hate you i'm stuck with you it was a heat check man yes you what did you ever seen him the jack up from the from the logo that was his that was his logo shot stop he's like oh i guess i'm not on fire you don't need to yeah you're not on fire did you see the other comments this morning from uh because the cardinals lost offensive line coach and then Schottenheimer came out and was talking about the Cardinals O line coach when he's the O'C in Dallas and he's just like Kyler some weeks would I mean he like was so candid about it he's like yeah he just told me that Kyler doesn't want to run sometimes yeah and that he's just like some weeks he's like I don't feel running today

that is not surprising watching him play of what it looks like having a superpower and you're just like because nah not today he I'm going to give him a nickname it's Moody Murray he's moody he's like, sometimes he's in a good mood and he runs and looks great and he's an MVP. The next week, he's like, moody Murray. Moody Murray. That is perfect. I'm not going to run. That is perfect.

Because you know who's moody? Little babies. They are so moody. Oh, no. Oh, his picture. He's got his jersey on our back wall today. Wow. Take it down.

We have a my guys. Get the reliever in here. We got a my guy's show on Friday. He should relieve the jersey. What name was on the board for me as a my guy for the entire officer? season that's not on there anymore. Marvin Harrison. That's why. Yeah. That is why. Not because Marvin shouldn't be great and Kyler shouldn't be great because sometimes

he's just awful. I'm just so frustrated. Do you think he knows? Do you think he's walking like to the game? He's like, I'm in a bad mood today. I'm just not going to play well. Yes. Yeah, he's like, oh, I lost like three matches in a row. All right. Number 18 is Breach Hall. This one is wild because he's going at 13 so we're already way below ADP

I'm at 22 I would love to have not talked about him today but you two have forced me to he's still going to catch some he should catch a lot of passes and you know I know Mike's brought this up before but there's a lot of data to show so usually mobile

rushing quarterbacks are very very bad for the past catching running backs Justin Fields is kind of an outlier there he has a history of targeting his running backs in the receiving game. That's where Brees Hall thrives. Breece Hall is playing for a contract here. He's playing to audition for a free agency.

He wants to do everything in his power to have the workload. Now, I don't think he's going to get it. As I say, don't show the other teams for your contract pursuit, the clips of you on the bench, because that's going to happen for some of this year, too. He's going so high. He's almost a RB1. Yeah, I do not like the draft price. but the case for

Brees Hall for it going well is he is designated as we got to pass so we got to have the best player for that type of a play and if you think that the Jets

are just going to be stinky I mean they can want to have their Detroit Lions more defined running back scheme but in the second quarter when you're already down

second half second quarter oh oh we're good I mean, we're talking with the Jets, man. That's fine. That's fine. When it's the second quarter and you're down by 10 already, then you know what the second half is going to be. So that's what could go right.

I still don't like the RB 13. He's always going to be drafted. He's always going to be drafted high because he's 24 years old. Two years ago he was the running back four. You know he is an explosive athlete that can go out there and have near a hundred targets like you had two years ago. There's a lot of ways to see how it goes right. The issue is we do not believe he's going to have a massive workload, and he's not on a winning team.

So you look at the top 20 running backs, how we started the segment. You average a bunch of touchdowns. Can Breeze do that on this Jets? I don't know. You average a bunch of wins. Can the Jets do that? Probably not. And you get a massive workload.

Should the Jets give it to Breece? Maybe. Will they? Probably not. It's like three strikes. He is the number one player that I've been. will not draft this year because of the price. We can have a whole discussion about

Breece Hall's potential upside. That's fine. Kairn, Chase Brown, James Kokomari and Hampton, Alvin Kamara. Those are the five players, some before, some after Breece Hall. I want all of them over Breece Hall. It just feels like the positive case, yeah, maybe it's there, but I don't think it's top 12.

And the negative case seems really scary. Yeah, I'm just trying to say something nice about the guy. I can't wait for next year, Breece Hall. I do think he goes out and gets a contract as a high workload player. It seems harder though to have that be a certifiable guarantee if this year doesn't go well.

And those jobs are just few and far between. There's four straight years then. If he doesn't, like four straight years of decline in terms of production. Yeah, but I mean, general managers really value their pre-NFL scouting. And I think if someone else looks at Breece Hall as like, this was my favorite running back in that draft class and we can go get him now on the free agent market.

weren't using him right? Yeah, I think it'll happen. It would be, we call that the DeAndre Swift case. Yeah. And I know things, look, things can change rapidly, but it's like the amount of teams that are going to have that spot open, it's not many. Yeah, last year was 209 for 876 on the ground, five rushing touchdowns, but then 57 receptions. So look, he can still give you production.

I just don't like what people are paying for him right now. 17 is Chuba Hubbard, who we got to see. see a little bit of in the preseason Bryce Young looked good as well. The least sexy player in fantasy football. Yeah. I think I agree with that. He deserves so much more. I got him at 16. Jason

at 14. Mike at 20. He comes in at 17. Looked great in the preseason snaps that I saw again. He's 14.7 points per game last year. Finished at RB 13 on a trash team. You talk about he had the workload checkmark. He had the touchdown check mark. He did not have the winning team check mark. Do you believe Carolina could become on

this year? Yeah, they certainly could. I don't project them to be a 10-1 team by any means, but if you look at the things that turn around a team, first of all, their defense was historically bad last year, and it was bad on purpose. Two years ago, they sold their defensive pieces and did the rebuild the right way. Now they've, you know, they're still young. They should have a slightly better defense, but Bryce Young is really the heart and soul of this team. Will he step up and be, you know, if he takes a step forward from the step forward we saw the second half of last year, he could go out there and be a franchise quarterback. If that's the case, they'll win more games. Chuba should be good. He was the running back 13 last year in only 15 games played. So that

was, you know, 14.7 fantasy points per game. My issue with him is how ineffective he was in the receiving game. Yeah. But he was still utilized in the receiving game. So I just hope that doesn't go away. That's what I was going to bring up for Andy is the, we're back. RICO Dowdle played a lot with the starters. I know we're talking, it's preseason week one, but we're just trying to gleam whatever we possibly can. And Rico had seven snaps. Juba had six. No, that's four routes for Rico Dowdle. And it looks like, it's not everything, but it's like Rico will probably be the third down guy and then probably the two minute guy. So it comes down to, is it for sure Chuba on the goal line? I would project it to be, but is it for sure? I feel very confident about it. Yeah,

on the goal line. The third down, you know, we talked about it the other day, is that as valuable as you think it is. I mean, Chuba would catch the ball and fall down practically. He's not a, he's not a big yardage guy, but he's still going to be out there on first and second down. So last year he finished at 13. We're all back behind that number. So I don't think we're, were being, you know, in a lot of ways, Dowdell's safer to me than the situation you were in with Jonathan Brooks, right? Jonathan Brooks was this young, up-and-coming potential takeover guy. Dowdell is very, very, like they just paid Chuba, they paid Dowdell a backup contract.

It is very defined. But Brooks got injured. If Dowdell plays the whole season, he should eat into a little bit of the workload. I'll grant that. But you brought it up, and the contract that they just paid Chuba says, you're our dude. they just signed him to what like a $33 million contract so my question for him is just like you know the season opens obviously the Panthers are trying to figure out who they are but it's like Chuba is in 54% of snaps 58% and then the number start going going up and he's

catching like while it's inefficient in the receiving game you know he's getting like five targets in a ton of these games catching four of them for no yardage, but that's still, you know, you give me four for 20 yards. That makes a difference to your bottom line of fantasy. And if that gets cut because Rico Dowdell is the one out there, taking those types of checkdowns. He is being drafted at RB18. I wanted to look at that.

Do you feel like that's the right price price? I think that's right around where he should be going. I'm a little bit lower in my projection. Yeah. Because he just. You have some Dowdolls? Yeah, nice. I don't know.

He just, he is a player. that I can see it, even with the contract, going wrong for a fantasy. And they did draft fourth round brother of the other E.TN. They got Trevor E.T. Did you see his first touch? I did not. Yeah, it was a kickoff return. He fumbled it. Fumble for loss.

James Cook at 16, Mike's My Guy for last year. Hey. Who finished at RB8, who was tremendous and is currently pouting. yeah should we have our analysis be like his preseason like we say we're going to give it but then we don't i don't want to do this oh yeah i don't want to be here anymore i had some stuff to say but yeah yeah i don't really want to say it is he going to play week one i don't know i really doubt he is going he is going to sacrifice game checks since his goal here is money and his outlook in the future

What does it look like then? Are the coaches like, oh boy, James, we know it's a little bit rough there. St. James Cook's team. This is Josh Allen's team. Yeah, the coaches know exactly how to utilize James Cook. You're going to see exactly what happened last year. I know he's, if he's missing a lot of camp and he's not playing in the preseason. That's 16 touchdowns.

I'm saying utilization-wise. Obviously, the correlation between touchdowns, that's not very sticky. But the utilization is important on a really, really good office. you want to say, okay, good offense, yes. Touchdowns, yes. Are they going to win? Yeah. Is he going to have the workload? Probably not. I mean, he didn't really have a great workload last year. 207 carries, 1,000 yards.

I want to know what you put in your projections for the UDK in terms of rushing touchdowns for James Cook, because I have my number that I have in there. Yeah, I have nine. I have eight. Do you have a number, mine? Hold on, I'm trying to pull it up. It's hard to have someone, but that was a real outlier.

For a guy who, you know, total touchdowns, I have him at like eight and a half. I have 10 total. I have him at 11 total. I was talking just rushing because you're 16 on the ground. I got 6.8 for him. Okay. All right. So, I mean, look, it's he's a big play guy.

He had a lot of those last year, four plus, four touchdowns of 40 plus yards. That was only, it looks like him and Sequin, but they also are willing to utilize other guys. Like, there's definitely, I want to be clear, because we've talked about. all this regression stuff like it's super possible for james cook to just go out there and have an upper echelon fantasy season inside the top 10 and especially maybe even more so like we never talk about that what if he gets paid what if it comes to an agreement and the money says sure the money really says more about him being the one and everyone else being the two a and b than anything else i mean that is a that's an outcome what if he doesn't get paid

and they're like let's just use him up i mean yeah not No, it's true. Back-to-back years, he's been a top 12 fantasy running back. So I don't have any problem drafting him where he's going. At the beginning of the off season, when we left last year and started drafts early for 2025, he was so high. I was like, this is going to be my brief hall. This is the guy that, like, the touchdown regression is obvious. The three-way timeshare is obvious.

I'm not going to be in on James Cook. Now he's kind of fallen to a place in drafts where I'm okay taking him there because he's not being drafted at his ceiling. which he obviously has, you know, the last two years running back eight, running back 11, but it will take hyper efficiency, which I don't love banking on. Makes sense. Which he's good. Like that's the thing that can overcome the other check marks, which you ran through him, he's got all of those.

Where he doesn't have the workload is he is he's good. He's the best running back on the team, I think by a lot. So if you want to bet on that efficiency, it's at the, what, the back of the third? He can't kick field goals like great. Davis, though. Did Ray Davis kick a field? Yeah. No, that's awesome. All right, we'll take a break and we'll get our 15 down to 11. At 15, Omari and Hampton comes in. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, Matt, you're bringing up a good point. We didn't have this at the top of the show because this is a pretty anti-kicker show. Yes. But when a fellow goes out there and pulls out.

The bazooka boot. Boom. And you kick a 70 yard or that, I mean, from my estimation, you probably had a couple yards on there. Yeah. Like Cam Little. I knew he'd get here at some point. Dude, that's awesome.

But oh my gosh. I mean, he's definitely getting that shot during the year, at least once. That is. Yeah. Right before halftime, you know, just, we're here. Let's just try it. Sir, it would be an 85-yard kick. Put him in.

Yeah, I want to see it. You're on your one-yard. line. It just doesn't seem fair that that doesn't count as the NFL record. It's the same. It's a preseason game. I get it. I know. I know. But 15. Amari and Hampton. I got him at 10. Jason at 18, Mike at 19.

I don't believe he played in yesterday's preseason game at all. Just further cementing the RB1 status. Yeah, the status of Marian Hampton. I don't think Naji can play football. I just say if we're going with this as the analysis. He definitely Nahy hasn't played any preseason

Noggi, you got that video the clip of him, the photo, he definitely can't open his left eye. Like that's obvious. It seems like it. Yeah. Obviously in the, at least if he had chosen to take a picture, I imagine he would have opened it if he could have, but we don't know if

Najee will be out there for week one or not. I think that's very up in the air. But Hampton comes in at 15. He's being drafted as the RB15. He was the RB18 off the board a few months ago. So it has definitely moved in the direction you'd expected to move with a Najee Harris fireworks

injury and with the fact that all the vibes, the comments, the camp, it's all positive around Amarion Hampton. Yeah, we are we're rapidly closing in on the point where you just, Andy's already done it. Andy you pushed all your chips on

Hampton. I made myself a note, I got to move him up because if Najee is not there in week one, then the chances of O'Mary and Hampton just taking the job and being like, this is mine now. Nagy, thank you for, enjoy your money, I guess,

the guaranteed part of the contract that you got. Because the issue with Najee was, okay, if he's in training camp and Harbaugh, it'll start out. It'll be the veteran. And we'll have to have some time for Hampton to work his way up. But for a first round running back to now be on a team that checks a lot of those boxes we've been talking about for these fancy running backs. still a very good offensive line even without slater yes we are rapidly closing in on you just have to

embrace what is what is going to happen and what's the latest on nodgie of oh there's a chance he's ready for a week one yeah you got a i think it's chips all in on hampton time yeah you have uh what in the last eight years or so you've had well i guess it goes back a little bit further with Trent Richardson, but you had so many rookie running backs finish inside the top 10. They're very good bets for fantasy. You talked about the team. There's just a lot to

like here. If J.K. Dobbins can come out last year and give you R.B.4 for the first two weeks of the year, five finishes in the top eight on a weekly basis, and it's J.K. Dobbins, at this stage of his career, a 22-year-old, versatile kind of do-it-all running back

seems like a good bet. Yeah, and this is a player who I know pre-draft-wise, like Andy and I were madly in love with, just looked like a bona fide NFL three-down workhorse back. He is good at every part of the game. You can catch the ball. Great. And you know we've seen with Austin Echler that this is a quarterback who knows how to get the ball into the hands of the running back in the passing game. The offense looks so good.

I think Keenan Allen being there just helps move the chains, get him closer to scoring. I've got him right now is my running back 14. I'm happy to pull the trigger on him early. We expected him to take over by the end of the game. Yeah, eventually. But now he gets to start with the takeover. He's not going to let go of it. James Connor at 14.

James Connor's 30 years old. Any, you know, he's being drafted as RB20. So if you look at the Value Scout tool in our draft kit, you'll see that Connor is one of those higher value players compared to ADP. He is the engine to the Cardinals' offense. I do think the Cardinals' offense will be predicated on a great running game. There was some impressive play by Trey Benson this preseason so far.

There's a lot of comments around Trey Benson. Do you have any concern of Trey Benson taking too much work from Connor to make this a mistake? I don't think he could take too much to make this a mistake because Connor, I still believe, will be the goal lineback. And he is really the heart and soul the leader of this team. However, I believe he, Trey Benson will take more work than last year. We can't just look at last year's utilization and, you know, put that out for 2025. I believe it will be not a 1A1B, but it will be a 1-2.

And last year was kind of just a, this is James Conner's team, his offense, and then we give him breathers. You hope that maybe that helps James Conner's efficiency, you know, as the season goes on, keeps them active and healthy. I think James Connor is still a very good pick, but you need to. need to be aware of Trey Benson. I think Trey Benson, given James Conner's injury history, is in his own right one of the few targets to have at the end of drafts where you go, okay, this guy could be more involved without injury,

and then an injury could actually make him really valuable. At 13, it's Alvin Camara. We saw Tyler Shuck have the most yo-yo debut performance possible, Pick six, followed by a 54-yard touchdown throw, very up and down. I should have mentioned maybe Jackson Dart, too. Some of the rookie quarterback play that we've got to see in the preseason has been fun to watch, and Jackson Dart had some impressive throws as well. Alvin Camara, though, Tyler Shuck, Spencer Rattler, quarterback situation.

He has been a machine, Camara, since 2017, just a year-in and year-out automatic start. and he had his highest fantasy points for game since 2020 last year. But he missed time at the end. He was one of those players that you didn't win a title with. He might have got there. He might have got to the playoffs with him. But Mike, how do you feel about Camara right now? I feel like we haven't talked about him in a while.

So, Jay, you called Chuba, like the unsexiest pick. Like, I think it might be Camara because it just feels gross. Even looking at our rankings, it all, makes intellectual sense of the depth chart here. Like, Camarra still is still good at football, even though you're just kind of waiting for the

shoe to drop, but the backfield of like, the hopes and dreams of Kendrae Miller. I don't even know if he makes a team, of Clyde. Like, yeah, someone is not making... Miller was 2.5 of carry in preseason yesterday, and that was bad. Someone is not making the roster, but the point is like, he's

he's old, but he's just so much better than everybody there and this is if you if you're going to have a team that is not good to have your fantasy running back have them be so bad that they have to throw to their running back six times a week and just you know that we always recommend don't watch it because it's going to feel bad and it's going to be frustrating that they're not scoring more touchdowns but he will be so involved and the as of what I've seen it's it's not over yet for Alvin Camara Yeah, Camara is a great value pick. Where he's going, nobody, you don't see his upside case, right?

You don't look at the Saints and go, oh, they're going to be great. They're going to have so many touchdown opportunities. A 30-year-old running back. He's 30. So there's nothing we could do to steam him up. However, he is the best pass-catching guarantee out there in the league. I mean, he had a 20% target share at the running back position. nearly 16% of the Saints first read targets.

That's like a number that some wide receivers have. And then you look at Kellyn Moore coming in, and at the very least, you know that they're going to play fast. Neutral pace ranks of Kellynmore offenses recently, first, first, second, fourth, fourth, eight. So if you get a lot of plays and you're down, and you don't have anyone to throw the ball to it, it's Super Cameriam. Got about that.

Can he still be super? yeah the star runs out quicker but if he finds one he'll have a few points we get some diminishing returns we've used it too many times Jonathan Taylor comes in at 12 uh Jonathan Taylor had the silliest end of the year possible how dare you I looked at those best I looked at those three games you know it is you know it is attempt pace not not opportunity his attempt pace in those three games would put him on pace for a he would have needed it would have been 530 oh 50030 carries a year mind you the preceding

Jonathan Taylor had never been seen again. Yeah, so he finished 1-1 and 4 the last three weeks of the year. They just basically said, we're tired of this season. This season's done. Let's give the ball to Jonathan Taylor. And it work. The preceding 11

games played, it was more, it was still a heavy workload. It was 320 carry pace, but he only scored five times in those games. He missed three games due injury, which has been a little bit of the Jonathan Taylor issue. So where are you guys with Taylor? I feel like I'm, I can talk myself in and out of Taylor. He's had three straight years where he hasn't played a full season. I don't like a lot of the other pieces there. It's like, I look at him and I'm like, crap, he's not going to catch the ball. He's always got explosive potential,

but I can talk myself in. I can talk myself out. I can't be talked out of him. I'm sure I'm the most bullish of the three of us here because I believe his talent is so elite as a running back, as a prospect in the NFL, that I'm willing to forgive the lack of pass catching, the potential for goal line vultures. This is a player who before that crazy last three weeks, he was already on pace for 1,400 yards in the 11 games to start. You know he's getting the workload. That box is checked. He should be able to get the top. So he could get to that checkbox. Now, are the Colts a really good team? Probably not. But I do think that they're, you know, look, bringing Daniel Jones in, gives them the ability to win more games either should Anthony Richardson not pan out or should he get injured again. Tyler Warren looks like the dude. I think he's going to help their offense tremendously. So this could be a better team. They're in a winnable division. And if Jonathan Taylor plays the whole season, I just don't, I don't see. Don't say that. part. I don't see how

his floor is lower than like the running back 14. I mean, this is a guy who's just getting too much volume and is too talented. And if you go, well, what's his ceiling? My personal belief is that his ceiling is still a top

four running back in fantasy. If he goes out there and ends up with a dozen touchdowns, maybe gets a few more... Did you say top four? Yeah. Oh, I can't get there. Yeah, so... I can't get there with Taylor, but you are the, you are the Taylorman. Yeah, tailor-made. Taylor-made.

What week does Stike can get fired? Oh, gosh. Let's look at their schedule and figure it out. I mean, like, does that's part of it? So to Jason's point, I wanted to look at this a little bit, just to, because I hadn't seen it. So he had missed the time the year before, but points per game-wise, he was still RB8, okay? Because he finished it 33 or something, but you got to throw that out. He missed a ton of time.

Which year? 23. Okay, the 14.7? Yeah, so that was RB8 numbers, and then the year before that, I think, was more of a down year. He was RB 18 in points per game. That was kind of the, like, what's going on? Like, people were expecting Jonathan Taylor to be this perennial RB1, and then it kind of disappeared. That was when he was dealing with the ankle all year?

Yeah, so he just, you know, last year, where did he finish in points per game? Do we have that? Points per game, I don't have it. He was at 17 points per game. Oh, that's got to be very, very high in points per game. Yeah, he was, so he was five. So the last three years in points per game. if you want to just toss the injury

you know unpredictable injury stuff out that would be RB 5 RB 8 and RB 18 sure given Jonathan Taylor a big pass on his injury oh I did not destroying Kenneth Walker Mike you're not listening when Jason said if he plays a full season my next words my next words was like no he won't

oh you're talking to him yeah oh that makes more sense yeah sure well he's on his he's also he's on his team he's way more talented than Kenneth Walker Kenneth Walker's on your team in Dynasty and Jonathan Taylor's on Jason's team in League of Record. We believe in who we believe. You want those guys stay healthy for your team.

Kyrin at 11 will wrap up today's running back rankings. Kiron comes at 11. I've got him at 13. Jason at 10, Mike at 10. He's been the RB 6, two straight years. He is a red zone dominator. I am excited to see what this offense

can look like with Adams and Puka and Kiron and everybody healthy. We do have an update that, Matthew Stafford in street close, not practicing today. Don't worry, it's part of the plan. Now, is that resting, Mike? You are the resting authority. So let's see.

McVeigh previously said, oh, previously said the plan was for Stafford to participate in individual drills. So we are not according to plan. So we're on. He's not throwing it in the street close. We're on plan F right now for Matthew Stafford. It would be bad for everybody if he's out. It would be bad for Tyrant. It would be bad for everybody.

Yes. that's that's terrible it's it's really the the biggest hesitation i have in drafting any rams um to get back to a different question though because i we had talked about when shane stuygens and i wanted to look at their schedule their first eight games they start the season with the dolphins okay should be able to do that they play the titans twice oh they play the cardinals they play the raiders and then the rams so like they they're saying it's a good start yeah i mean yeah i mean That's... They're not favored for the...

That's not the Cleveland Brown schedule. They're underdogs, the three of the first four, though. Well, because they are stinky. Well, they might be underdogs against, I mean, the dolphins, but... No, they're favorite against dolphins. What about the... I don't have it in front of me? They're underdogs against Denver.

They're underdogs against Tennessee. They're underdogs against the Titans? Yeah, on the road. Yeah, those teams are not that far apart. Okay. Cam Ward looked great, by the way. Cam Ward looked great. But, yeah, no, overall, the names that you threw out there.

Those are teams that Jonathan Taylor. Winnable games. can definitely dominate. That's really good Kairn insight you had there. Yeah, you're welcome. Here's the insight on Kairn. Kyrin Williams is a workhorse volume back

who, so checkmark, he touches the ball around the goal line and successfully nonstop. He is a touchdown machine checkmark. This team should win a lot of games. Sean McVeigh is a great coach. So he's got all three check marks. He's also been the running back six the last two years.

Two years ago, he was very efficient. He, you know, a lot's made that last year he wasn't that efficient on a per touch basis. Pretty brutal. Sure, he was pretty brutal. Two years ago, the Rams had a very easy schedule against the running game. Last year, they had a very difficult schedule against the running game. This year, they have a very easy schedule against the running game. So it's kind of like, I expect his efficiency to go up a little bit this year.

but it all comes down to Safford. And I hate that. I hate that with all of these players. You're taking Jonathan Taylor ahead of Kairn? Am I? Because that's what, I mean, it looks like those are back to back in your rankings with Taylor ahead. I feel safer with Kairn. Yeah. For the three

checkbox argument. I really like both of those players. Right now Stafford scares me so much. But, yeah, I think Stafford will be all right. Yeah, he usually is. He's a tough son of a gun. I really do. I think he'll be, I mean, this is we've had some off seasons

maybe not but I will say the one thing that I don't worry about as much as a lot of people out there is the Jarquez Hunter draft pick the Blake Corum like these are these are people that can spell him

these are Corum's a head of Hunter by the way I think I brought that up somewhere of that draft Twitter of just obsessed with Hunter and it's like you just did this with Corum last year who was a third round pick and now Corum's

dead. And look, but look who's ahead on the death chart. Yeah, I mean, Quorum is the backup, not Jarkquez. So I do think Kyron's going to, he got paid, he's going to be a great asset this year, and he's not expensive. You know, where he's going in the third round, I think his, is

you know, he's been the running back six, the running back six, he's drafted as the running back 11. All right, that does it for today's rankings episode. We'll count down the top 10 running backs tomorrow. We have 10 tips and tricks episode coming up this week. The My Guys episode coming up this week, and a reminder of the UDK for Life giveaway going on right now.

Make sure you pick up the UDK by next Monday when we do an exclusive live stream event on YouTube, and we'll give away a UDK for Life along with a sign Jemar Chase, Jersey, and you can learn more about the UDK, become a part of that giveaway at Ultimate DraftKit.com. That'll do it for today. I'll go, Michael, put the binoculars on and go watch for some Kenneth Walker practice reports. He's probably resting, guys. He's very sleepy. Goodbye.

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