Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Regress or Impress + 2nd Half Studs, Horse Talk - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/26

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Mar 26, 2026. 2nd Half Studs edition of Regress or Impress! Which fantasy football difference makers from last year will do it again in 2026? Trevor Lawrence, Chase Brown, and Michael Wilson discussed. Plus, the latest free agent signings and more! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Get the lowest price on the 2026 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Instant access to the Dynasty Pass with the UDK+ (00:00) Intro (06:45) NFL News (16:35) Regress or Impress (17:10) Trevor Lawrence (25:55) Chase Brown (30:55) Kenneth Gainwell (36:25) Michael Wilson (44:05) Kyle Pitts Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Thursday, March 26th. Welcome in to the fantasy footballers podcast, Jason Moore. Mike Wright. I'm Andy Holloway. Happy birthday. Oh!

According to the show, Doc, it is my 68th birthday. And the calendar. Oh, the 68? It says 68th birthday. Yeah, in the showdown. Honestly, Andy, I didn't think you were looking very good. For 68? For 68, I think I'm doing it right.

Thank you. I think you're the got to be top thousand of 68-year-old as far as look goes. Physical appearance. So how old was he then, Jason? How old was he prior to this? Yeah. 67. Oh!

Oh, son of my God. Hey, no. Yeah, see. Hey, I'll run up. I've overcome. Okay. Okay. us, us, our generation, our generation.

Did we do it? We already, we already killed it. I mean, we did such. We got you, you swift work with the six, seven. It's over. It was not swift. That thing was intense. It was intense, but it was, I mean, it quickly went from like, oh, the biggest thing and all the youths.

And then all us old men came in and were like, we'll show you how stupid this is. And you started doing it. Yeah, like crazy. And now it's over. It's over. If you have not seen, there is a clip going around of Ryan Gosling doing some publicity for, what, hashtag non-sponsor, Project Hail Mary. Awesome.

It's a great movie. But there's just a clip of him with an interviewer and it's all just the youth slang. But in a real serious delivery, if you've not seen that clip, it is delightful. Yeah, yeah. Well, we're happy to have you with us today. regress or impress is the main topic on the show. Historic L. We got news to talk about.

We got some mailbag if we got time and a reminder, the Ultimate Draft Kit available for pre-order right now. Ultimate draftkit.com to check that out if you want access to everything we offer all year long, including all the in-season app, tools and resources and lineup optimizer, everything we do, including the Ultimate Draft Kit, you can become an ultimate supporter at join thefoot.com, become a Foot Clan member over there and just get access to everything. Make it really easy for yourself.

Our quick question of the day comes from Charles in Oklahoma. Hello ballers doing a first time dynasty startup and just wondering if you had any tips or suggestions to make it as fun as possible.

Thank you. Well, I mean, first of all, draft all the best players. That will make your league way more fun. Dynasty startup, man. you better start hydrating multiple days before. Preload the election. Somehow the general public doesn't yet understand this.

If you're hydrating day of, it's done. Yeah. It's too late. You are not hydrating. You must hydrate at least the day before for any type of strenuous situation. And a dynasty startup draft, if you have never done one, clear the schedule. I mean, imagine our main league of record draft,

we have 11 rounds because we've got keepers in there. And that lasts several hours. We do it in person offline, which is, honestly, that's my biggest answer to this question, is try to do your, you only have one dynasty startup ever. If you guys and gals and whoever's in your league are geographically in the same place or even able to take a trip to, you know, Let's all go to Vegas for a draft.

If you can draft in person, it is so much fun. However, what Mike is saying is, you know, you're going to end up going 30 rounds. So, yeah, get your push-ups in. Get prepped for a long draft. Make sure you've got lunch and dinner. Do you remember ours? I do. I do remember ours.

It was an eternity. It was so much fun for at least 75% of it. At least 75% of it. Where was it? That was at my house. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was it. It makes sense.

Okay, yeah. I don't remember it at all. You blocked it out. Yeah, that's, it's a long journey. But it's fun. And let me ask you a side question as a follow-up. Because he's asking about how to make the draft as fun as possible. You joked about drafting the best players.

How much of a, like we have Dynasty Start of Rankings. I'm just curious how much you yourself. are willing to bend the rankings to draft players you love because it's a dynasty league. Oh, every time. Yeah, going against the grain of not necessarily what big,

because you're going to have this player a lot longer in theory and usually. I mean, there's a lot of turnover on everybody's roster, but if there's a player that you really love, especially if it's a younger player, and it's like, I'm just in love. Yeah, if it's Cam Scataboo.

Yeah, exactly. I would draft Cam Scataboo. Well, yeah, right now. Bad example. Right. Bad example with the injury and the harball. You're more worried about the harball than the Jeremiah love. Yeah, I mean, I really am.

The only. The love. I just can't imagine a team that has Scataboo, Tarot, Tarot, Tracy, and Singletary would take love. Yes. Good. But if anyone would, it would be Harbaugh. I don't feel like he will do that. I just think that oil and water.

The Titans need to remove the option. Titans do the wrong thing. And draft a running back at number four. Well, there were some reports, right, that neither of those teams were really going to take him. And Washington's the first team that was considered. I guess you can hear rumors on all sides of everything because some of it is smoke. All I know is that if you want love, you need to trade to three.

Right. Huh? GMs out there. Yeah. I'm going to get them. Yeah, there you go. All right, let's talk news. News and notes from around the league.

All right, let's talk some news. The Falcons. Diabolical. The Falcons are signing Brian Robinson Jr. B. Robinson. To a one-year deal worth of $2.5 million. They lost Tyler Algeo to Arizona. This guy was already a problem.

Yeah, it already happened last year. On the sleeper platform, when you're drafting. and I think right now that's the This is going to happen thousands of times. That's the most common platform right now. Obviously, lots of drafts on different platforms, but they display their players, first initial, last name, position, and team.

And so if you didn't pay attention last year to the team, you could have accidentally drafted Brian Robinson, which people did. But now he shares a team with Bejohn. It's B. Robinson, Atlanta Falcons, running back. And you got to be sweating. Yes. You are binoculars on looking for the junior. You're like, I'm not getting the junior.

You don't want the junior here. Don't take the junior. What's Bejohn Robinson's number? Is he seven? I think he's seven. Okay. And Mooney was fake seven. Mooney was one.

Yeah, well, I was just staying. I think Brian Robinson was eight in Washington. Oh, no, he better not go to one. Oh, man. If he takes Jersey one, it's over. We're toast. Because you already had, I was already having a problem with Darnell Mooney. This is half the size of Bejan.

It plays a different position. You will be done. Oh, they've got to do it. They've got to. I'm like, I want to watch the world burn every time that he's in there and everyone thinks it's Bejohn. I mean, this is, uh, Algear is a better player than Brian Robinson, Jr. I would agree.

But Brian Robinson is still a. a larger physical back. They need a depth. I'm not concerned about Brian Robinson. Yeah, it shouldn't be a big deal. I think the question here from a fantasy perspective is, is this enough of an impact? You know, the Jemir Gibbs versus Beijon argument at the 101st David Montgomery left and Tyler Alger left. Brian Robinson coming to town. Will that vulture be Robinson? Will B. Robinson coming to, will B. Robinson vulture be Robinson? Right.

Enough to make Jay Gibbs the first draft. Well, I, Pacheco, is about the same as B. Robinson in terms of my concern level. They're both in the same tier of, they're both downgrades to the players that were there before. Algier and David Montgomery were much bigger threats to both Jay Gibbs and B. Robinson, non-senior. Sleeper, you got the room for me. That's what they need to do. This needs to be the year Bijon decides to be called Bijon Robinson Senior. Not junior.

Not junior. Mike, you've got to be happy. I know you're happy. Joe Flackleback to the Bengals on a one-year deal. My dynasty team loves it. Yeah. And honestly, you just want your guys, we all want, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, Chase, Chase,

Chase Brown to be functional if the often injured borough is injured. Yeah, this is fantastic news of a true actual insurance, running or a quarterback and not just if you have burrow and burrow misses time like if he's out you will be able to pick up flacco and and simply play him but to have the other players continue in fact last year jemar chase his numbers were better with joe flacco uh compared to joe burrow ever so slightly i don't that's not like a 28 targets a game yeah that's not to play joe flacco it's just a hey if burrow misses the time like he almost always does.

Don't sweat it. You'll be all right. Honestly, everybody can get injured in the league. I know Burrow has had more injuries, but Stafford has been injured plenty of times. He's got a back injury. Darnold could get injured. To me, when you're looking at those top three wide receivers right now in fantasy,

this is a good enough tiebreaker to me that should the starting quarterback go down, I'm not having to worry about Drew Locke or Stetson Bennett or Jalen Milrow as trying to support my number two pick in the draft. Joe Flacco we know could get it done. There is a report this morning, the athletic saying it's a 60-40 chance

that Breece Hall signs an extension with the Jets after the NFL draft. As opposed to playing on the franchise. Yep. Which is, this is interesting to me. I know that the Jets have always, they've said we want to get Brice Hall back with the long-term extension.

Their actions certainly have not really said that, considering you should have extended him a year ago. But Jason, how do you feel about this? Don't do it. That's how I feel about it. Don't do it, Breece. Don't. Generational wealth.

Look, financially, sure, do it. But what about me in my dynasty team? So next year, in theory, I mean, the franchise tag is there for any of the great players. Jonathan Taylor will probably get franchise if they don't come to an agreement. Bejon. Oh, Bezon. There was the report, I think, from Schaefter of like, get ready for Gibbs, H.N and Bejon.

We should see a market reset for the running back position. Those guys probably won't hit the open market. And if Jonathan Taylor is also franchised, then that would really mean. Brees Hall is the king of free agency. I can't fathom a double franchise tag in a row on a running back. Right. So I would,

if I'm Brees's agent, I would say just play one more year, stay healthy, go get a bag for a different team. Don't make the decision to get injured, Brees. 25. Yeah, see, that's... Decide to stay healthy. It's just mental. You sound like poop or something.

Um, 2026. We have our kickoff schedule for Wednesday, September 9th in Seattle. You heard that right. Wednesday. Yeah. Because Thursday is going down under. Is it? Yeah. Thursday is going to be Melbourne? Um, Melbourne. Sorry. I don't know. Millborn. I know they always, they like to go up. Now, what time? I haven't been there. I haven't been there. So I'm curious about this. So, so the, the, The season's going to kick off on Wednesday. Some people are really excited about it. Some people are unhappy.

I don't like the like football every day of the week thing that they're trying to do. However, by the time week one comes around, I'm going to be so excited. It's the first week. I want that. But yeah, but it's a slippery slope because then everyone's excited and then it's going to happen. Anyways, what I'm concerned about is because this game is coming from down under on Thursday, what time is it here? It's 830 Eastern. All right.

Okay. PM. What time is it there? I guess thank you for the following. It's the future. It's the morning of the future. They will be playing Friday morning. Okay.

Got it. I mean, this is how the sun works. Do we care that the Eagles signed Elijah Moore, the saints signed Zach Wilson, or the falcons signed Tyler Goodson? Are you talking about Elijah Moore, just one season removed from 100 targets in Cleveland? Kind of.

Per the tweets. Per reporters. Stop it. I don't need your interjection. Elijah Moore is on a nice Laquan Treadwell arc in terms of just being in the league for a long time. I can't believe Laquan Treadwell. One of the greatest busts of all.

Like he's up there with the Cory Coleman and the Marks Russell. Like he was supposed to be. He has got to be an amazing locker room guy. It just has to. Like, he probably picks up all the towels. I've never seen a... He, like, cleans an outright bust, which he is. He's not a disappointment.

Like Marvin Harrison Jr. right now is not a bust. No. Marvin Harrison Jr. is just disappointing because you drafted him so high. This is an outright bust who has stayed in the league for a decade. He's played continually and no one knows it. Yeah, he's still in the league. Dude, I totally forgot. Lequan Treadwell, year one, first round wide receiver selection.

by the Minnesota Vikings accumulated the total statistics of one reception for 15 yards. No, no, no, this is even better. He's still in the league, right? Here's his last four years. Total receptions. Six, then one.

And by the way, we're starting in 2022. Six, one, zero, zero. Seven receptions of the last four years still signing contracts. He appeared in 10 games. It says he was in 10 games last year. This is six percent of snaps. This has got to be like a specialty. This is an amazing job he's figured out.

Yeah, good for you, man. I mean, you're vested. Oh, yeah, yeah, you get your health insurance. Good for you. Hey, good for you. Hangin on. And isn't it like every year you play, you get a little bit more for your retirement? He's going for it.

We'll take a quick break. We'll come back with the regressor impress. Looking good there, Andy. New graphic, huh? Oh, man. A little birthday present for me. Someone's been working out. Regrass or impress.

We're going to start with second half. have studs from last year and talk through the trends that we saw at the end of the 2025 season and whether we believe these players will regress or impress in 2026. I love this first name. Yeah, I mean, this is this is. This one is an interesting conversation. Yeah, because I see the outcomes really being, like I could talk myself very heavily into both sides. Yeah.

So Trevor Lawrence, quarterback at the Jacksonville Jaguar's amazing season for them, was super, impressive after the buy week. He got it figured out. Weeks 1 through 7, he was the quarterback 13, 16 fantasy points a game. But guys, after the buy, 22.6 fantasy points a game.

You know, the quarterback 1? Over that time period? Over that time period? He finished the season as the quarterback 4, basically 20 fantasy points per game, which was his career high, in year five, first year,

with um leon coham you you've got leiam cohen i switched the n and the m yeah yeah that's impressive yeah yeah that's cool dylan gabriel gillin d'briel oh yeah you could do this with anything you just give me a name and watch out okay be john robinson okay no i'm i'm going uh oh man i was gonna do your name yours is going to be hard i would not i'd stop all your head you might walk into a a word you don't want to say that's yeah that's true Good advice. Were you in the middle of a thought? He was.

I was at the end. No. I was, what happened was I was in the middle of a thought, but the bridge collapsed. Oh, and now it's lost. I'm in the ocean. Here's why it's easy to be on both sides of the argument for Trevor Lawrence. His success was over, it wasn't like three or four weeks. Like we've had some of these regress are impressed where it's the last three weeks of a season and it's amazing.

This was from week eight on, although I would say he kind of turned on the jet. for the last four weeks. I mean, he had three top five finishes in that stretch. But you got other reasons to believe, right? The draft capital, the potential for him coming in, did he get unlocked with Liam Cohen? The fact that that offense is going to be stable for another season, not always the case for Trevor Lawrence historically. You have Liam Cohen in there with, you know, tons of weapons in the receiver. They really do, yeah. I mean, part of the second half of that season was Jacobi Myers arriving. And Travis Hunter was out for a lot of it. He'll be back. And Brian Thomas Jr., you know, do they get that figured out? Great tight in.

You know, I... You can also have the argument, you know, one of the arguments that we have against Jordan Love is that when Josh Jacobs came to town, they were able to run the ball much better and they didn't need to rely on the passing. Travis E.T.N. leaving, you know, Travis ETN a couple years ago had 11 rushing touchdowns, had seven last year. Like that puts the, the team little bit more on the arm of Trevor Lawrence going into year two in this system. Could be worse. Tudin's probably better on the ground. I really want to be a, yeah, true.

I mean, maybe as a goal line back, Tudin is an upgrade, but whether or not they view that schematically and decision-wise, like, hey, we're going to really rely on rushing the touchdowns in when we get around there. I don't know that that's true. but Trevor Lawrence and we Sam Darnold was drafted very very high had many years before it looked like he was competent several teams and you think okay well we're going into year six

we know who Trevor Lawrence is Trevor Lawrence is 26 years old if he worked here at our studio we would call him a child right for sure we'd call him a horse child and we would say, hey, horse child, you're still getting better. And so I do think, I mean, you know if he worked here, we'd call him a horse child. There's no way we wouldn't. A baby horse, maybe, a pony? I don't know what we'd call him, but my point.

I don't think anybody's ever called anything a horse child. My point, my point, obviously, is he actually might still be getting much better. You can go what, outsiders on this. Yeah, there we go. Pony boy is great. character. Stay gold. His age, I think, is what

really pushes me to think. Maybe he did level up and figure something out. Also, the willingness, and this has been something that is in his capabilities that he was not doing enough. And it was so frustrating, so frustrating watching him with all the

opportunities to run the ball and pick stuff up with his legs, and he didn't do it. Horse legs. I mean, come on, if you're a horse, Gallup, Go, man! Put them shoes on and trot. But I do think, I think he's leveled up.

I think it's going, I think he's going to continue to impress. I'm on the impress side. The questionable things will be, so that time period you said where he was the QB1 in points, it's after the by week, while he had seven rushing touchdowns in that time. And will that sort of a thing continue going like well that regress or impressed you know we Baker Mayfield under under Cohen did

see kind of his first spike in rushing so is is that truly a part of the offense where they got to the by week and Cohen was like dude pony boy run you you are you're humongous did you just get in on it pony boy's a fun name yeah pony boy's good I don't I don't feel as insulting when I'm going with a A classic literary character. Pony boy versus horse child? Pony boy's better. Pony boy's kinder.

Pony boy is a great character. Yeah, a literary icon. Wait, what is that from? The outsiders. Oops. Yeah, not everybody's as learned as us, Mike. Jason. I'm normally, it was like, read a book.

And you are in on this? There's a musical. Okay. I saw it on Broadway. Stay golden. Yeah, he's not a foal anymore. How do you say that? There's a musical?

Yeah. Oh yeah. Outsiders, great musical. It's not foul, okay? Fowl. Fowls like a bird. Or like a penalty. Right.

The fact, like, I've never heard this argument of, you know, it's all the movie. I'm going regress on Jason, impress on Trevor Lawrence. Movies, the movie book people. It's like, oh, the book was better. Now we have book musical? Book musical. And the musicals better. The musical's better than the book.

It is. Oh, what a world we live in. So those are my biggest questions for Pony Boy about Will. Will he be rushing in that many touchdowns? Because 9, 359 yards, that's not crazy. You can kill Lawrence has had a year of 334, 339. So the yardage didn't spike to a place that we've never seen before. Do you expect it to hit from the starting gate?

I think if we can get the blinders on him, I think that he could zero in and really take his derby to a new place. Did we mention he also had 8.6% of his pass attempts were dropped, which is the highest, I mean, shout out to Brian Thomas for everything he did for that. Shout out to BTJ. But the 8.6, that's tied for the highest rate of any quarterback over the last four years. So you're talking 400 potential yards, which you're not going to get all of that, But of course, and you still got some of those back.

But that's a lot of drops that I don't think will happen. And Brian Thomas cleaned up his drop problem over the second half. Are we prepared to move on to the next name? So right now an underdog, he's going at quarterback 10. Yeah, that would be a good final question there is where you think he'll end up. I would say. I don't mind that. If he ends up as quarterback seven, does that fit into the?

the impress category? Quarterback seven would be... I think it would continue the trend that he had last year. So I'd say he would continue impressing. However, I wouldn't be happy with drafting him. Yeah. I mean, those are two different conversations, whether or not you believe...

Like, I think Trevor Lawrence continues to impress. He's probably not the quarterback that I'm going to leave my drafts with, because when you're coming off of a great year like he just had, he will be drafted not as a late round quarterback. Does it feel like Baker? Yeah, very, very similar to Baker. When he was coming off of his, but he can run. Well, no, he still has Cohen.

Baker lost the coach. Yeah. Chase Brown. Impress. He was on the Regressor Impress episode last year. RB 19 for the first half, RB5 for the second half of the year. Yeah, he was both. He was regress, impress.

last year. Yeah, it was not through five weeks, he was pretty unstartable. Correct. But he was a victim of the Joe Burroughs injury as well. Like whatever magic Jake Browning had filling in for Joe Burrow the first time, that the pixie dust wore off. And it was an absolute disaster.

Joe Flacco comes out. I was going to say, old man Joe Flacko comes in. somehow fixes everything. And then Joe Burrow comes back and everything is great. Chase Brown is, you still have to be under watch of, you know, with the draft. I don't think that they will replace him.

I, you know, there was the whispers of extension talk. That was a couple months ago. So maybe that's still going on in the background. And if that, if a Chase Brown extension comes through, then I will have no, no fears, no worries,

my chips will, We were asked a question on the footcast yesterday of what would be some things that would happen this year to prove that the year of Mike is over. And this would be one of those. Like if they were to draft a replacement, you know, spend the second round pick on a running back. That would be devastating. That would be very anti-mic. It probably won't happen. I think they're very committed to Chase Brown and believe in him.

He played the entire season, stayed healthy, turned it on over the back half of the year. they've got so many needs on the defensive side of the football. Exactly. Last year they picked up Taj Boyd, right? Later in the draft as a... He just got really no play. Got no opportunity. The way...

Like one thing you can be happy about with Chase Brown is that they didn't make a change at the head coach position even though Jason wanted them to. Right. The plan right now is, hey, our offense is magma. Our offense is amazing. Can we fix things on the defensive side? If we waste a pick on a high-end running back for

No good reason when you get this production from Chase Brown. To me, I'm going to go impress on Chase Brown. And he's an electric receiver. He had the fourth most targets at the running back position. And on receptions, he had the third most forced missed tackles. Now, when Mixon was there, we got the random Smoshay-P-Rine adventure. Yep. P-Rine did get re-signed.

And at the end of the year, P-Rine did get some goal line work. Chase Brown is capable at that. But as is P Ryan, so that will happen over the course of the year. But when you have the amount of work that Chase Brown gets combined with how great he is as a receiver, I will have no problem drafting him wherever he's going. I agree. We're all going to be impressed here. His last 10 games, which are really the games that matter because you're talking about once they found something at the quarterback position.

Those last 10 games, seven of the 10, he was. He was not like, oh, he was a good week. It was top 10 weekly finishes, 70% of those games. The other three were still RB2s. It wasn't zero bad weeks during that stretch. The fact that he got off to such a slow start with the Joe Burrow injury and was so devastating. I mean, this was a guy that when you're going into week five, week sick, you're talking, should you be dropping him? Should you cut Chase Brown at that point?

And I don't think he's going to be overdrafted. Going into this year again, he's not going to be someone that people are crazy bullish on. There will be enough fear from the first five weeks of last year. Every league will have one of 10, one of 12 people who hates Chase Brown. Because they drafted him last year and it didn't work. And I would love to see the numbers of the people who drafted Chase Brown and rode out the whole season with him. It didn't get to the point where there's like, this crap sucks. I'm out.

this guy stinks he'll never be good and then they trade him or they cut him and then the beneficiary of chase baron was not the drafter no and it was the same with burrow and chase i mean you you right like those guys got moved jemar chase was not a great option for five weeks with browning no he was unstarred the flaco revolution uh saved the day if you did if you did draft chase brown you know those final three weeks were the the final two weeks championship and Sima Finals, the running back four, the running back three, if you kept him the whole time, you probably weren't in the playoffs.

He either was a real great player for someone who picked him up, or he was so bad in the beginning that he hurt you and you're going to never draft him again. Kenneth Gainwell, who is now a Tampa Bay Buccaneer. second half of the year he was the running back 12 kept surprising in Pittsburgh kept becoming more and more utilized in Pittsburgh signs a well kind of used that year to sign a two-year deal worth up to 14 million in Tampa

10 million guaranteed that's not nothing he's 26.9 years old entering his sixth year he did lead the Pittsburgh Steelers in receptions yeah embarrassing which is impressive for him and embarrassing for D.K. McCaff. And for the Steelers as an organization. I don't think you ever want a running back to lead your team in receptions. And if your running back does lead your team in receptions,

you hope it's Christian McCaffrey or someone that is like one of the best players in the league, not coming into the season your second or third string running back. So, I mean, I feel like this is one where my instant DCFrey, default easy answer is going to be regress because you kind of had a unique situation. There wasn't a lot of weapons in Pittsburgh. You did deal with some injuries at the running back position. He became kind of integral. It seems like one of those things that would depart from fantasy value when you leave that

scenario and you have, you know, all the wide receivers and tight ends and Bucky Irving in Tampa. Is that the side that you're going to go with? I don't think I'm fully committed to regress because he's a good player. Those things would not have happened in Pittsburgh if he weren't showing out with talents. I mean, you went into that year.

Jalen Warren had just received, you know, a baby, a micro extension for his bank account. And then by this second half, Kenneth Gainwell had kind of overtaken him in terms of the timeshare. Kenneth Gainwell and Bucky Irving is going to be extremely difficult because I don't have a strong I don't have a strong enough conviction in Bucky Irving to say

this signing doesn't matter, two years, 14 million, you know, I don't really care about Kenneth Gainwell. I do care. But Bucky is also a tremendous player. It feels like a conversation around Bucky, really. Yeah, I mean, obviously Bucky's undersized could get injured. We saw him get injured last year. There's also some, you know, smoke about the mentalish, you know, hardships that, that

Bucky has gone through. So Bucky, to me, is a great player who is so far ahead of Kenneth Gainwell where he will retain, like, Rashad White was involved last year. Rishat White played 17 games and was the running back 34. He's pretty irrelevant. If Bucky Irving were to go down or out for any reason, then I do think Kenneth Gainwell is a very interesting player. But what Kenneth Gainwell did this last year was really take on a role,

even when Jalen Warren was active and healthy. Kenneth Gainwell was still leading the team in receptions, was on the field all the time, was running routes. And I don't anticipate that being what they brought him in to do. They brought him in to just be a replacement of Rashad White, a backup, a spell. But he's much better than Rashad White. Yeah, but much worse than than Bucky Irving.

I don't think he's much worse than Bucky in my evaluation of it. I think he is much, much better than Rashad White. And so it's what happens when all that work that Rashad White got? What happens when it's a good player? What happens to Bucky Irving then? Sure. You look at Gamewell, the runner that way?

Or just the versatility that way? Really both. I mean, for his career, he's a 4.4 yards per attempt runner. I mean, Rashad White could never. He seems to endear himself to the team that he's on. That is one thing that you can say about Kenny Gainwell is that he's somebody that does all the dirty work, all the stuff that you don't see that doesn't show up in the fantasy football statutes, and teams end up falling in love with him and giving him more time.

And that would be my concern for Bucky. But it doesn't mean that I think that the fantasy value is going to be consistent for Gainwell. I'm going to go regress. Yeah, I lean that way, but I'm curious. Do we know where, Kyle, do we know where Bucky is going in, like, what's the, what's the public temperature right now on Bucky Irving? Because it might end up being a situation where I'll just be willing to miss of what Bucky's going to offer. R.B, no. Wait, Bucky's 37.

No, that can't be right. That's got to be. Gamewell's 37, Bucky 17. Okay, okay. See, that makes far more sense. Gainwell 37, Bucky 17. Bucky at 17 seems like a pretty good. That's not bad. I'm totally willing to take the shot on him there. Yeah, I don't want to forget what Bucky is capable of doing. But we'll see. All right, we'll take another quick break and then we'll come back to do a couple other regressor and press.

Michael Wilson. Oh, boy. Good golly. Miss Molly. Oh, boy. Irrelevant in the first half of the year. Wide receiver three over the second half of the year. Irrelevant for, what, two and a half years? Yeah, that's a better way to put it. And then what year are we going into with Wilson?

Going into year four. And then he became Jerry Rice. Yeah. Yeah. When the team was throwing the ball 40 times a game with Jacoby Berset. He was the wide receiver three. 17 points a game. No Marvin Harrison on the field for the majority of that.

And film-wise, stats-wise, advanced metric, separation. There was no flaw in his game. So the question is, was that the breakout or was that the opportunity of what the Cardinals were doing and the fact that he was kind of thrust into wide receiver one territory here for the Cardinals? Yeah, and it's going to come down to how we define impress and regress here because I don't think any of us are going to expect the performances of the second half of the year where wide receiver three or 17 fantasy points a game. But I would say here's how I would define whether it's a continuous impress or he regresses back to not necessarily. He's not going to be either.

He's not going to be the wide receiver 81. He's not going to be the wide receiver 3. That's what you're saying. I think the best way to view it is, is he the wide receiver one for the Arizona Cardinals? Or is Marvin Harrison Jr. The wide receiver? Because if he takes hold of that and is the primary non-Tremic bride receiving option for the Cardinals, then he has continued to impress.

If he's not, if he takes that backup role and he's the third target on the team, you'd say he regressed from where he was. I think that he should be and he won't be. I think it's very good that Jacoby Brissette's the quarterback for Michael Wilson. But I don't think, like if you, because look, if we all had to place a bet today, put $100 down on the table and you click the Michael Wilson button or you click the Marvin Harrison button and we presume health

and we say what are the fantasy outcomes for those two players at the end of the year I'm going to click Marvin Harrison's button. Oh, that shocks me. I am as well, but I thought I was going to be the only one here. Because sometimes it's just too squeaky. I think the targets will be there for Marvin Harrison. This is year three of Marv.

Yeah. So it's year three of Marv, year four of Michael. Yeah, I think, I think I would push. It's not that different. No, I know. I know. Look, I think Michael Wilson showed us consistently on a weekly basis that his, his talent is there. His capability is there on every level.

Jason talked about the metrics. Right now, Marvin Harrison is the wide receiver 33 in best ball. Michael Wilson is the wide receiver 39 in best ball. I would expect, just looking at that, I would expect both guys to outperform those numbers. Yeah. And that doesn't mean I'm going to be happy. It doesn't mean I'm going to get a wide receiver 15 number. But, you know, if they end 15 and 18, I won't be shocked.

The nice thing about the Arizona Cardinals, so I was really pouring some cold water at the end of the season, pointing out what happened to the Cardinals' defense, what happened where they put Jacoby Brissette in just threw the ball every play. They lost every game. You know, every game that Jacoby Verset was a starter, they lost. And they threw the ball a cajillion times. and, you know, Jacoby was on pace for like, I don't know, 4,000, 5,000 yards. It was, it was asinine and that that wasn't going to happen again. But I am not as convinced that they're not going to just continue to air it out

and need to keep up. They have signed nobody of relevance, and nor do they want to sign. And by the way, by the way, I'm saying on the defensive side of the ball. Can I just correct you, Jason? He was 1 in 11. No, in games he started. I don't think he. Oh, you think he came.

into one and got a win? I believe so. I could be wrong. Maybe he was one and 11 and did not go winless. He might have had a win. It was really just a joke. Yeah. But the Cardinals, they have done the right thing, which is sign a bunch of worthless one-year deals. They have the most cap space going into next year. They are not going to be a competitive team. Their defense is going to continue to be bad. And with Jacoby Brissette back in tow, I do think that they're, for fantasy purposes, Andy, one of your things to remember this year was like bad teams really ruin good players. And I think that's so true of, you know, the, the Browns and the Jets, Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall, they're not going to, I don't know if it's the, and I know we're

Cardinals fans, but I hate the Cardinals. I do think that the offense will have fantasy football relevance. You should revise bad offenses or just bad quarterbacks. Yeah, maybe that is. Jacoby's not bad. He's not a long-term starter, but he's not a bad quarterback. He beat the Dallas Cowboys.

Yeah. As a starter? As a starter? He started that snap. All right. Go Jacobi. He started in one. He beat the Cowboys of all teams. Yeah, he did. And that defense. No, I think you could make some tweaks. I mean, you're not, like, offense was great. There's a, I mean, legitimately, there's a reason why Detroit went out and got the blobfish from Arizona. And it was because of the success he had with, the Cardinals had more

players in injured reserve than the final four teams than the NFC playoffs combined. So the Cardinals dealt with massive injuries, fourth string running backs, no Kyler Murray, and they had a pretty dominant offense for the back half of the year in terms of production. And that's why, you know, you will have a change at the offensive coordinator. You're bringing him, um, you know, LaFleur, who's going to take over, and that's going to bring some variables. But I think part of it is going to be, you know, the Cardinals have two ways to go on Marvin Harrison. It is. But staying neutral on it is not going to be one of them.

You're either going to go the direction of this is not going to work here, and he's going to get moved, and it's not going to happen. Or are you going to go the direction if we're going to make it work, and the targets are going to be there. But staying neutral, I don't think it's going to happen. And I think that's part of the agenda for LaFleur. Mike, who do you think has the better fantasy season between those two wide receivers? Andy and I are on the side of taking the shot on Marv. I, if I had to click the button right now, I would click Michael Wilson. Okay.

Which is it, where, what's so difficult for Michael Wilson is the first two years in the league, my opinion of him was he is not that good. Like he was not getting away. He was not creating separation. He was not handling his business. I mean, he was just a, he was like a wide receiver three type, you know, of you should be on a team, but you're nowhere near the level of a player who can take over a game. And over the second half, he did that.

He took over games while Tray McBride is still on the team, like where Marv, we've seen him take over maybe a couple times. So it's hard to change your opinion or speaking of myself. It's hard to change my opinion of how bad I felt about Michael Wilson to what we saw over the second half. One more name for you. We get to talk about him forever.

Kyle Pitts, eight fantasy points of game in the first half, Titan 16, not the end of the world, but not helpful. Second half of the year of the tight end three had the greatest game for a tight end of all time in week 15. It's really skewing the average. You're going to hear like tight end two

around Kyle Pitt's name. His 9.8 fancy points for game is the lowest ever for a tight end two. So it wasn't great for tight ends last year. And week 15, I don't know what the numbers would be. Oh, I've got it. Without the 40 point week 15,

he would have been 7.9 a week. And that would have been the same as Britain Strange and Dalton Schultz. So you don't want to take away the ability to put up the biggest game of all time, but at the same time, you know, that's a pretty special outlier game. So in best ball right now,

going after Kyle Pitts is Sam Laporte, Arronday Gadsden, Dalton Kincaid, to get cheaper over Kyle Pitts, I think I would go that direction. I mean, the quarterback questions for Atlanta are very real. Will Pennix be healthy?

Is he even good enough? And then if that's not the answer, then your solution is Tua. How good of a solution is that? Yeah, I think what was I seeing? Because there were some comments around Tua being willing to mentor Michael Pinnock's. And it's like one of them's, like, two is 28. Pennix is 26. He was older, remember?

Yeah. it's like these guys are really not that different in terms of like but experience they're very different very very different but also you know who do you think wins the job oh pennix yeah i think pennix will have the the beginning of the season the i don't know how to go from there the issue with cow pitts i mean the same thing we were saying about um i'm out yeah Trevor lawrence being young Kyle Pitts is only 25 years old. That's the argument. At the end of the year, he leveled up, he showed out.

They're going to come in next year with a better plan for him. He's going to figure it out. That is the argument. Oh, Stefanski. I know. Stephansky loves Titans. Let me talk you out. When you look at last season how bad he was and then you hit week 13 and all of a sudden he's

the Titan 6, the Titan 7, the Titan 1, the Titan 3, like just awesome. That's no Drake London, no Drake London. That was when Drake London got injured. So all of a sudden it became the de facto number one target for the team and then had to put up points. He's at least the de facto number two right now. Yeah, but he was the de facto two before that and he wasn't very good. Well, it's funny because you said if you took week 15 out, we'd be at 7.9 fantasy points per game. His first half of the year was 8.2 for the first half, which is tight in 16.

So if you look at that, you know, he's going to regress from his fantasy finish at tight end for sure. Yes. He's going to regress in his fancy points per game of the second half of the year. I don't think you're getting 11.6 over the second half of the year. So, you know, I think overall, unless he is cheap, which maybe he will be, but I don't think so. I think there's a lot of reasons for people to believe in him right now. So. I will be happy.

I don't think I'll draft him. I will be very happy to grab him for a matchup off the waiver wire. I will do that once or twice through the year. He will be there. Maybe not week one. but he'll be there, and you can grab him and play him in the right matchup. He looks like a player, at least right now, of, we bring up the phrase, or kind of the saying of like, when there's certain players,

I'm willing to be wrong, you know, about by drafting them. I'm willing to be wrong about Kyle Pitts of bypassing it. Someone else, if you want to have the bravery and you want to get the reward, I accept that. Let me see if this final bit of information changes anything. Right now he is going behind Harold Fanon in bestball. Okay. He's going behind Tucker Kraft, who's going to come back from an injury and was really good. I think that all makes sense.

The guys he's going ahead of, I don't know, maybe I would take him ahead of them. Sam Leporta, Orande Gadsden. Yeah. Dalton Kincai. I think I'd take all three of those guys ahead of. Maybe not Leporta. I would rather have them. in Pitts. I wouldn't necessarily draft him ahead.

You would take Kincaid over Pitts? Dude, I think I would. Don't Kincaid. That just, I mean, Don't Concade was. Kincaid's on the Pitts career arc. Disappointing. At least, yes. Inconsistent.

I mean, both guys have dealt with injury. Obviously, DJ Moore being there will be the number one target in the offense, you would presume. But that could be good for the tight-in position to open it up a little bit. I think Dalton Cicade is more talented than Kyle Pitts. Gadsden is the most exciting. Leporta is on a better offense. So there's reasons, but they're all later, and that's the thing that you can't miss here.

It's not that we would just overall. The offenses are better. Yeah, it's not that you would draft those guys over Kyle Pitts if Kyle Pitts was, you know, being drafted as the 110th player where Gadston is. But if you're telling me I can wait and take a player that, I don't know, I probably believe in in the player more in Gadsden than in Pitts, and I can get them in the hundreds. I'll do that.

Okay. Glad we get to talk about Kyle Pitts again. It's on my birthday, too. I mean, that's not a big honor. It's not really a gift so much as a curse. But we're going to wrap it up. Appreciate you joining us. We'll be back with a couple more episodes next week.

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Yeah, that's the irony of that entire segment is that I'm pretty sure it was a little demeaning. But it was all, but it was all followed up by a. impress, impress, impress. Yeah. Dude, horses are impressive. Okay. Animals.

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