Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Regress or Impress + Weird Players, Offseason Q&A - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/7

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

Is Tee Higgins or Jaylen Waddle more likely to bounce back in 2024? On today’s fantasy football podcast, Andy, Mike, and Jason answer a number of listener questions! Will Dak Prescott repeat as a to...p 5 fantasy QB? Plus, the latest NFL News as Free Agency draws near! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for March 7th, 2024. Get the lowest price on the 2024 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Dynasty Pass content available NOW with the UDK+ Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers. Jason Moore is here. Mike Wright, present, accounted for. I'm Andy Holloway. Happy to have you with us. We've got a good show for you today. It's going to be fun to hang out with us. Great show.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Great show. Oh, thank you, Mike. I was worried at first. That was close. I was like, is this just a good show? I thought our goal was to lay down a bunch of mid to good, so that way later. When we get to the football season, we're peaking.
Starting point is 00:02:04 That's what I'm saying. Are you willing to commit to that? Let's take it down a notch. No. I'm in. I'm in. You're in? Yeah, I'm just doing good.
Starting point is 00:02:12 He's been in for a while, if you noticed. I've been in for about nine years. I only do good. Okay, well, I'm going from great to excellent. Oh, so we're doing great shows, and then you're going to jump it up to excellent which we me and jason we can't get there um it is a bar you cannot clear speaking of that not excellent i mean i'm looking at the back wall of our studio today and i'm seeing this what's not excellent this happy go lucky justin jefferson on the back wall and i'm just and then i'm thinking about these rumors of kirk cousins going going to Atlanta. He's so happy in that picture.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, he looks like he's just got his whole future ahead of him. It's okay, man. Russ is out there as a free agent. Yeah, so like I said, he looks so happy back there. And I guess money will make him happy, right? Because he's going to get a bunch of that. Yes, he will get the cash. So, yeah, we'll talk about a number of news items but that is one that's come out as you know whether kirk cousins goes back to minnesota and i started to have a bit
Starting point is 00:03:15 of a change of heart there oh no did the florio report get you uh it wasn't the Florio report. It was taking a step back and recognizing what a 35-year-old off of an Achilles, Kirk Cousins, it's so easy to just kind of put the default Kirk Cousins forward as the standard. And it's like, what if Minnesota would be right not to overpay him? Sure. If he's not himself, it's not like Kirk Cousins has been, it's not Mahomes, all right? Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I think Kirk Cousins is a very underrated, high-quality, top 12 actual talent quarterback starter. But do you know what I'm saying? I know exactly what you're saying. I mean, basically, there were a lot of questions when the Seahawks got rid of Russell Wilson of like, you know, but they knew. They were like, yeah, this is fine.
Starting point is 00:04:11 We're not paying. We know what's the writing that's on the wall. We're not going to pay that contract. But the difference here is that they knew. They were working with Russ. They saw what Russ was doing. This is totally different. You can't know.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Like, the last we saw Kirk, he was great and then he got yes and then he got injured yes i i guess i just mean there's a percentage chance that if they brought kirk cousins back we look back in two or three years and say you know maybe that wasn't those now they're having to restart the quarterback position in minnesota and like justin jefferson's career is going to be much longer than kirk cousins and so it was my first time kind of thinking through that and saying well basically thinking as a Viking general manager you opened the window to maybe that actually isn't best for our franchise correct correct yeah and and and like you know some legends at the wide receiver position they obviously have gone through multiple quarterbacks Larry Fitzgerald had his day in the sun and he he had the heyday with Kurt Warner.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Seasons we don't speak of. And then you had the John Skelton years, but then you got Kevin Cobb, and then Carson Palmer comes back around. I just wonder in the long view. Larry Fitzgerald had a three-season stretch. Let's see here. 16 games, 798 yards. 16 games, 954.
Starting point is 00:05:28 14 games, 784. I mean, that's in the prime of his career and then had the Carson Palmer resurgence. Yeah, so I don't know how it's going to turn out. We're going to find out soon. It comes down to how long of a contract does Kirk Cousins want? To me, if I'm the Vikings manager, I'm willing to take the gamble because I know what my quarterback position looks like,
Starting point is 00:05:52 and I don't remember the source of the rumor where it was starting. It might have been me. I could have started this rumor that one of their ripcords is trying to trade for trey lance so i mean that's that's where you are if you don't get kirk cousins back that's true but then so i'll go i'll give kirk a two year that makes sense but if you flip it the other direction you look at atlanta with young bijan young drake london young kyle pitt Pitts, brand new head coach, and you say you don't want them to end up in the Russell Wilson situation where they're the Denver, right?
Starting point is 00:06:30 They pick up a Kirk Cousins who's not 100% healthy. Oh, yeah, sure. So give him a year to be 100%, you know, or whatever. Maybe this year's not. Then he's 36. Atlanta. It should be fine, but it's just kind of, you'd have to reset again in three years in Atlanta when you've got the
Starting point is 00:06:49 number eight pick and you could take JG McCarthy potentially. Yeah. Sure. And then do you, you know, Denver wishes they would have drafted a quarterback. I mean, I just saw cause Russell Wilson is going to be gone and it's Jarrett
Starting point is 00:07:01 Stidham. Right. And so Jarrett Stidham is the guy until he's not the guy in Denver. And they would have been better off finding a way to start Jarrett Stidham two years ago in Denver. That was the truth. Yeah, with the knowledge that we have right now. So it's a tough game.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I mean, obviously, you don't win without a quarterback. But whether Atlanta's got that money they want to send out for Cousins, they believe in the rehab, I guess we'll find out very, very soon. But before we get into things, got a quick question special for you guys today. Reminder, the Ultimate
Starting point is 00:07:38 Draft Kit, you can pre-order it now at ultimatedraftkit.com. If you get the UDK Plus, you get instant access to the Dynasty Pass, which includes now premium articles this entire offseason. Big time articles. Meaty. Yeah, they are
Starting point is 00:07:54 meaty. They are substantive if that is even a word. That's 100% a word. Fantastic. You even pronounced it right. It's currently receiving the post-combine update. So some of the rookie rankings are being adjusted. Some of the startup rankings are being adjusted.
Starting point is 00:08:10 New mock draft. New mock draft just hit there as well. So it's always improving. And Kyle's. So in my top 10 things to remember, I was highlighting some thresholds for yards per run and talking about wide receivers. It's in the context of the podcast,
Starting point is 00:08:27 so I have a couple minutes for my monologue. There is a beast of an article right now written by the Kyle Borgogin talking about the wide receivers and really fleshing it out. I believe it clocked in as a 27-minute read.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Possible. I did it. Yeah? as a 27-minute read. Possible. I did it. Yeah? Every word? I put in the work. All right. Yeah. Too long, didn't read.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It's pretty long. It's good information. Is that on Audible yet? Jason's like, whoa, hold on. Is that two sentences? Too long. It's a good article. It talks all about some things we hinted at on the show about young first- and second-year wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:09:12 targets per route run data, and what has proven itself true in the majority of cases over a long period of time. So you can make great decisions regarding your dynasty-wide receivers. And I'm sitting here, and I'm going, I'm sitting here and I'm going, Mike, you're, you're now 41 years young and you haven't tried substantive on for size
Starting point is 00:09:31 until now. So congrats on that new vocabulary. Well, it's like draft pick. I, when I'm speaking, sometimes, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:42 do you say words? Cause in your head you go, that makes sense. And then you find out it wasn't a word. Oh, was the opposite i was yeah well i was throwing it out and it we landed safely i wanted to thank the foot clan for all the support over on uh the podcast platforms every time you review the show over there um you help us out a lot it's just a quick and easy way to you know help us with the algorithms and building the show. I mean, the Foot Clan is responsible for everything
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Starting point is 00:10:26 or if you subscribe over on YouTube. So here's our quick question for the day. Okay. All right, we're doing a regressor and press. Boom, my mind is blown right now. That're doing a regressor and press. Boom. My mind is blown right now. That video graphic is regressed. What's going on with the hat on my head?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah. I mean, you look like you were at a Florida retirement home. It looked like my head would have to be another five inches tall for that. It has gotten taller, though. I mean, it's happening, but I'm not there yet. What I'm laughing at is the fact that this entire day, Al Borland has been singing, you don't impress me much.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And I thought this was from nowhere. And he's getting it in Papa Josh's head, who's mad at him. And no, it was from the quick question, apparently. But Jason. Yes. Regress or impress Dak Prescott. who's mad at him and uh no it was from from the quick question apparently but jason yes regressor impressed dac prescott does he have a top five finish in store for 2024 i if i've got a pick between regressor and press i have to pick regress um you know the we've seen him have monster seasons before back in 2019 he was the quarterback too. You know, he can put it together.
Starting point is 00:11:48 This last season, Mike had the great call of like the second half sleeper looked to be Dak Prescott. Part of that was because of the specific schedule that they were going to hit. Tough run defenses, really easy pass defenses, and it all came together. I think Dak is fantastic. I think he's talented. You know, his touchdown percentage wasn't outlandish. It was like 6.1. Looking back, it's like the last couple of years, 5.8, 6.2. He's right around there. So I don't think he's, you know, is absolutely, you know, a crazy outlier. He'll never be anywhere near as good as he was in 2023 again. But he's almost certain to regress because he was so hot and so fired the end of that season. It just doesn't make sense to keep that kind of a pace
Starting point is 00:12:35 when you don't have the same schedule that lines up. So if I've got to pick between regress or impress, I think Dak regresses. It was the quarterback one in that stretch stretch and it was from week six on. So it was a long run. When you look back historically, 2019, he averaged more points per game than he did this last year. That was that number two finish you alluded to. He finished at number six back in his rookie season at almost 18 points per game. How many quarterbacks did we have? I mean, Joe Burrow was knocked out of contention right Justin Herbert was knocked out of contention um am I forgetting some other ones Mahomes obviously
Starting point is 00:13:11 was he was a down year very down year from the homes that's that's what makes it more difficult for me do I think that he could average 20 fancy points a game next year I do Kyler was gone for Kyler was gone it's just whether that ends up being top five. That's a tough line, which is why this is a good question. The house would be on the not being able to impress. I'm going to go with impress. I think he sneaks in. I think he ends up quarterback four or five next year, bringing back the same recipe for success,
Starting point is 00:13:37 one of the best wide receivers in the game, and currently no solutions at running back. I think it's all on his shoulders. He's going to redo the contract, and the numbers are going to be insane, and I think Dak's going to come back and sneak inside the top five. He absolutely could be. We could go through the exercise of seeing. Oh, what, other real quarterbacks?
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah, you know you're going to have Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts above him, right? So do you think he does better than Mahomes this next year? I'll still say no. I'll say no. Lamar Jackson? That's, yeah. Yeah, I'll go yeah. A lot of groaning.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I'll go yeah. If you're yeah there, then I think impressive. Is that going to work? Because then you're talking about Burrow, Herbert, Kyler, maybe Anthony Richardson, and he's in that tier. Agreed. All right, Mike, where are you, regress or impress? I will take the field, even though I think he could certainly do it.
Starting point is 00:14:36 He had a lot of things working for him, especially Tony Pollard's inefficiency at the goal line. We'll see what they do at the running back position. But we don't have the linear schedule, but we do know who the opponents will be. And so, I mean, of course, his division, you know, so the Giants, the Manders, and the Eagles, we'll play them twice. But then we got the Saints, the Bucks, and the Lions. And these are home games.
Starting point is 00:15:06 The Ravens. Okay, those are pretty good so far. The Ravens, the Bengals, the Texans. Those are not as good. You will see. And then on the road, we have the 49ers, the Falcons, the Panthers, the Steelers, and the Browns. It feels middle of the road.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah, I mean, so feels middle of the road. Yeah, I mean, so you went with the field. Top five is just, that's a lot. I get it. I get it. Follow-up question. Will he be drafted as a top five fantasy quarterback? No.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I don't think so. I think that there will be people that are hot and bothered for certain names like Anthony Richardson, like C.J. Stroud. If Justin Fields landed in Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah, he would be in that conversation. And so he could end up being a value in consecutive seasons. All right, let's talk news. News and notes from around the league
Starting point is 00:16:05 michael pitman we we talked about it on the last show but it's official now the franchise tag for michael pitman they have yet to reach an extension agreement but he is going to be a cult dalton schultz we got one right so far we did right we all said he'd go back to the texans and they and he did i almost said bat in 100 that's that's my baseball oh really 100 yeah you don't want that no you want to be batting a thousand normally for free agent predictions batting 100 is about how it goes um three year 36 million dollar extension he was actually the tight end three during a seven week stretch in the middle of the season he He's a very good player.
Starting point is 00:16:49 He's a very quarterback-friendly tight end for C.J. Stroud, and they had a ton of money. So this is just – it made a ton of sense. I'm happy for him because I felt like this last year, I feel like he was really shunned in the free agent market. There were other tight ends not as good as him that were getting money, and then he couldn't find anything. So he bets on himself, does a one-year deal and came through good for you dalton the doctor got paid i wonder if you know this news yet jason because it just broke but zacher it's a
Starting point is 00:17:13 one-year deal with the washington commanders all of us dynasty zacherts owners rejoice we did it they dumped logan th Thomas to go get Zacherts. It makes so much sense. Because of Cliff? Because of Cliff. Cliff Kingsbury peppered Zacherts with targets in Arizona. Ertz is still, I hate to break it to you, he's still very capable. He's certainly as capable, if not more, than Logan Thomas,
Starting point is 00:17:41 who had relevance in Washington. He was prior to the really bad knee injury he had. I mean, it's kind of like what you were talking about with Kirk Cousins. Maybe he doesn't come back as strong off the Achilles. He already came back. I mean, the teams evaluated him, and he signed with the Lions. He just didn't get to play with them. At least in that regard, we have a lot more time.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I mean, he's not going to be meaningful. Let's just tell the truth. Yards I mean, he's not going to be meaningful. Let's just tell the truth. Yards after catch. It's not going to matter. On average, yards after catch per game over, under two yards. Oh, under. After? Yeah, under.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I don't care if he runs with it. I want him to catch it Dennis Pitta style, just catch it in the bread basket and go down. And he can do that. He was very, very good at doing that. He had two games over 50 yards last year and set through seven weeks. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's what I can say. How'd Hollywood do? How'd Michael Wilson do? Yeah, not good. Yeah, I mean, Arizona was a bit of a mess. I mean, the year before in his 10-game stretch. Tell that to James Conner. He was still at 80 catches. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:46 he's not going to be good. I don't know why I'm talking about him. I defend stupid players. Ian Rappaport talking about the fact that Broncos have not just informed Russell Wilson of his release, but they're allowing him to pursue his next contract ahead of time. A little
Starting point is 00:19:00 bonus time for Russell to go talk Broncos country. We rode. Oh, man. Yeah. Now, contractually speaking... Do it. We got to get this in for
Starting point is 00:19:17 Russ. Oh. Unlimited diarrhea. Unlimited. Thank you. So much. Maximum quantity of contract diarrhea that you could possibly have made. So the Denver Broncos owe Russell Wilson $39 million. Now, that contract will be offset by whatever he has offered. Yeah, like a veteran minimum. So that will be a very fun game to play of how much do these teams want the Denver Broncos to eat it where,
Starting point is 00:19:55 and, and Russ included in that of like, I'm just going to take the veteran minimum. I'm going to sit over here and I'm going to collect 30 plus million dollars from, from the Denver Broncos. But it's, it's a pretty crappy thing to do to a team. That's'm going to sit over here and I'm going to collect 30 plus million dollars from the Denver Broncos, but it's a pretty crappy thing to do to a team. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Zero percent chance. But what if he did it with the Raiders, who are, I believe, the second highest odds right now of getting Russ in division? I mean, the gamesmanship, sign a veteran minimum, make Denver pay all of the contracts.
Starting point is 00:20:24 In division, how do you not if you're in Denver, pay all of the contracts. How do you not do it? That's brutal. Year one. So wait, so he gets the same amount of money no matter what? Correct. Okay, I take back my 0% chance. You can say year one, you make $5 million.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Isn't it weird to be in the locker room and not making that money from that team? Isn't that a weird thing? Yeah. Okay. Well, he's a weird guy. It's perfect for Russ. Indivision starts to be... That's a competitive advantage.
Starting point is 00:20:53 A major one. If you're going to collect $40 million no matter what and it can come from the pocket of your opponent or your team's pocket, why wouldn't you? Yeah, I mean the new Broncos owners can laugh at this money, so it probably won't be an actual competitive advantage because it doesn't change the –
Starting point is 00:21:11 The cap number's the same, right? Yes. Okay. But let's move on to more significant sad news. The Seahawks have released Will Disley. We still love you, Will. Big Montana voted the greatest nickname of all time by the Foot Clan. That was number one?
Starting point is 00:21:32 It was number one. Because of this song. The song certainly helps. Ride off into the sunset. One last clap for Big Montana. Look at that doozers alley going. We're all clapping. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:45 We miss you, buddy. Yeah. Go find a new home, and we'll hit that button again. Big Montana. Seahawks saved $7 million against the cap for that move. That's a good amount. Yeah, it is. And CJ Uzama, goodbye.
Starting point is 00:22:00 The Jets have released him. He never made a mark there at all. Okay. Conk, conk. Yeah. He's gone. So, yeah's gone so yeah conk conk yeah conk conk if you believe in aaron rogers tyler conklin seems to be the only titan tight end uh around currently you call him a titan all right quick break and we'll be back with some more spectacular footballers.
Starting point is 00:22:32 All right, we're back, and we're going to jump into the mailbag, answer your questions, get you ready for whatever you've got going on, the free agency period quickly approaching, dynasty trades, NFL draft, whatever you've got for us, we're going to answer them right now. Mailbag. Mailbag. Yeah. We've got a lot of questions no voicemails today if you have a question though you can visit the website the fantasy footballers.com click the submit a question button
Starting point is 00:23:14 or you can dial our voicemail hotline 302-464-TFFB Instagram question from bblakely123. How does Puka rank among the 2024 rookie wide receivers? Jason is nodding. It's such a good question. So you just throw Puka in with the class. So Harrison and Neighbors and Odunze and, you know, Puka. So where does he rank? Where would you take him? I believe I would, and I've wrestled with this one
Starting point is 00:23:50 because to me, Puka is definitely above neighbors and the rest. For you? For me, yes. In my opinion, Puka has done it. He's shown it. I mean, he literally had the best rookie wide receiver season of all time. You can't ask for literally anything more than that. And so, you know, you're, you're, if you're taking a prospect, you're saying, well, I, I hope he's good, but no, no, no. I hope he's great. The only way it's better. Cause it's not even an age thing. It's not like, well,
Starting point is 00:24:21 you get one more year. It's like, P Puka's a young guy I think he's 22 right now so I definitely have him above everyone but I wonder with Marvin Harrison I I look and I go you know he's more prototypical he's gonna have that draft capital you know Matthew Stafford won't be around forever and so I go back and forth there but so you think about putting Puka ahead of Harrison I think I do put Puka ahead of Harrison? I think I do put Puka ahead of Harrison. But I think about putting Harrison ahead of Puka. I have Puka three.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I would take Harrison and I would take neighbors over Puka Nakua. Wow. Oh, three just in the rookie wide receivers. At first I thought you were saying you got him as your third wide receiver overall, which I wouldn't blame you. No, I was answering the question. Yeah, it makes sense. I would put him three.
Starting point is 00:25:11 You know, Puka had, yes, the best rookie season ever. It is not some sort of infinite upwards line for players based on their rookie season. I think neighbors in any other draft in the last 10 years would be the number one pick at wide receiver, a top five pick if Harrison wasn't in it. Maybe not the chase here. Chase might've been ahead of him, but Harrison is more prototypical. I like his long-term outlook season to season to be a dominator. So I'd put Puka three. I look at Puka a little bit more through the lens of maybe what Anquan Bolden did. Anquan Bolden, one of his best seasons ever was his rookie season. He was a tried and true, great fantasy, good output wide receiver for 15 years.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It's a great comp. But I look at Puka more through that lens where I think there will be some ups and downs. It will come with quarterback change. I still think he's amazing. I mean, i could be completely wrong in that but i i would put in three the hardest part is just with with both marvin neighbors this is all speculation this is all projection so it it is the best rookie season of all time. I get that maybe somehow one of those two guys ends up being a better player than Puka, but I think I would put Puka ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But now I'm trying to think, if I actually had the 101 in this year's rookie draft, would I just straight up trade it for Puka? Right, exactly. And – I would not do that. It might be a boat. Let me change your perspective. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Let me see if I can talk you into it, okay? Okay. He had the best rookie season ever. Yep. He finishes the wide receiver four. He had 105 catches for 1,486 yards and six touchdowns. Okay. Okay, and so that was the best rookie season we've ever seen He had 105 catches for 1,486 yards and six touchdowns. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And so that was the best rookie season we've ever seen in terms of those numbers. Yardage, yeah. The yardage. But 105, 1,486, and six, like, that's a good season. That's like a really good season. Wide receiver four. But that's not necessarily, like we seen like jefferson on a on a completely annual basis chase on a i guarantee if you look at chases numbers
Starting point is 00:27:30 over time probably over the next five years versus bucas you're probably going to see higher touchdown totals similar yardage numbers if not better um jefferson is probably going to be what 1600 to 1800 yards for the next 10 years so that's how i'm looking at it through the lens of like do i have a chance at getting like i think harrison could be jefferson but i guess so you trade puka for jefferson right or yes yes for sure because we've seen it we know what justin jefferson is on the nfl field it's not projection well i mean the fields are the same they use grass and the same yard markers we've've seen them on the NFL field with different hash marks. The markings are different. I remember this conversation about Jamar Chase,
Starting point is 00:28:09 and that's why he went in the seventh round. Sometimes you just call a spade a spade. You know what's coming. Well, sure, but the alternate arguments are there too. When Corey Davis was the fourth pick in the NFL draft and was this outlandish superstar that everybody loved, you just don't know. And today, if push comes to shove today, the hardest part is there is still a chance that the Patriots take Marvin Harrison.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And so it's like, okay, even if he's a better prospect, well, now he's got no quarterback, and maybe he'll get one a couple years from now. So how many years do I have? And it's all for all of that is like let's say that Marvin Harrison hits which I think he will hit and that's why it's so tough and let's say he hits to the degree of Justin Jefferson he is Justin Jefferson you're trading an extra 300 yards and you know three or four touchdowns for the chance.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's not 100% guaranteed. Well, yeah, but neither is Puka's rookie season to repeat. Sure. That's not guaranteed either. It's not guaranteed, but I think it's a much higher hit rate. We've seen it in all the analytical studies. The best predictor of future success is past success in the nfl and just a reminder jefferson was adp wise like the wide receiver three or wide receiver four in his own in our
Starting point is 00:29:34 in dynasty drafts that was jerry judy and cd lamb above jefferson what's your point my point being like that year it wasn't you would have been like you wouldn't have been looking at Justin Jefferson as the number one overall dynasty wide receiver. Neighbors could do what Jerry Judy did. Yeah. We just don't know. It's tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's a great question. It's a great question. I knew it would be a competitive one. When I was making my startup rankings for the UDK Plus, Puka was the most interesting name out there. I was like, man, what do you believe about him? Is he great, or did he have a great season? Yeah, that's why I brought up the Bolden comp,
Starting point is 00:30:17 because that was his, I don't know fantasy-wise if it was his best year, but it was close. It was 100 catches. I think he had another year of 100 catches, but that was like year three, and then the rest of his career he dominated, but it was much lower numbers. I mean, Jamar Chase's rookie season was his best, right? Jamar Chase's last two seasons don't come close to comparing to his rookie season. So it is a great debate.
Starting point is 00:30:40 There isn't an answer right now. There's just opinion, and you've got them i think marvin harrison if you're just talking talent is the is more talented than puka all right um why don't you grab another question mike do you have a doc up yeah i've got it up here uh this is a good one uh for two people on this panel from of IG from Corbin Clark, what's the cutoff for celebrating a championship? Draft day when a new champ is crowned or death? What does he mean?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Well, I can answer the question because I was last year's champ and I know exactly when the cutoff is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's when you're out. So when the new champ is crowned. No, no, no, no, no. No, it's when you're out. So if you are champ is crowned. No, no, no, no, no. No, it's when you're out.
Starting point is 00:31:25 So if you are the current champ. Oh, once the reign has ended? Yeah. It wasn't when I won a title. It was when you were eliminated. Exactly right. When I was eliminated, that's when I can't celebrate anymore because I know I'm not going to be the champ anymore.
Starting point is 00:31:39 You're not going to be, but you still are. I get it. I'm going. I mean, when you're greeted by your co-manager, you guys every day for the whole year, hey, champ, hey, champ. Yeah. When that changed to ex-champ,
Starting point is 00:31:51 did that change when you were eliminated? No. Or when I won? No, it did not. That did change. Okay, so I guess Mike is correct here because I was still greeting him as champ and he was greeting myself as champ every day until you.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Death is a part of the answer, though. Yes. Because you still have a championship. Right. Which you remind us of. Yeah, it's just. I barely remember, but you remind me. I remember it so clearly.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But it was so long ago. Yes, it was back when Andy was not in his 40s. The best part, I'm still not in my 40s. The best part of it is that I am trying to shorten your reign simultaneous to I will want to extend my own. So at the end of this, I'll be you. Yeah. Unless I win another one.
Starting point is 00:32:45 All right. YouTube question from Caleb Travis, 1418. Who do you like more for a bounce back year with potentially lower average draft position after last year's disappointment? Tee Higgins or Jalen Waddell? Both were certainly disappointments relative to draft position. I think just all the vibes in general with those two guys were so positive going into the year and feel so negative right now. I've still been reading about T. Higgins' trade rumors.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Even though they franchised him, I've still been reading about that team considering a trade or people speculating, not directly from Cincinnati. But either way, Waddell, Higgins, who's more likely to have the bounce back? I think they'll both bounce back over where their current ADPs are. Right now, Jalen Waddell on best ball is wide receiver 22 and T. Higgins is the wide receiver 28. I would put a dollar on both of them beating those spots, but I think the better
Starting point is 00:33:50 value is T Higgins. Uh, T Higgins was really, really bad. I mean, obviously it's seen by his ADP being even lower than Jalen Waddles and he hurt fantasy managers because he was hurt in a couple of games where he basically went out there played a snap or two you know that counts as a game so you look at a bunch of the metrics if you're like oh his per game stats the snapper two is no it wasn't as bad this year but you have uh let's see the injury game in week four about half the snaps he comes back the next week he plays about half uh the final week of the of his season week 17 he played 40 yeah so three games where he basically did not play half the game i but when you said you think he's the better value you mean that he's going to be drafted lower i definitely think higgins will be drafted
Starting point is 00:34:42 lower than jaylen waddle it's that's's interesting because I'd be more concerned about Waddell than Higgins in the sense that Waddell's season, he failed with the prescription, with the recipe that they had. The quarterback was there, whereas I can easily make the case that Burrow is healthy and Higgins is great. I mean, Tyler Boyd's gone. So I guess I was really curious where you thought they'd be drafted. Do we have the current,
Starting point is 00:35:08 um, yeah, I said, did you say that? Yeah. So Jalen Waddle's going six spots, six wide receiver spots ahead of Higgins right now. And I think that's,
Starting point is 00:35:17 I think that sticks. So he's a better, he's a better basketball player. Sure. Waddle. So, so they may be real. They may be back to back and redraft. I will be surprised if Higgins goes ahead, assuming he is basketball player. Sure, Waddle is. So they may be back-to-back in redraft.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I will be surprised if Higgins goes ahead, assuming he is a Bengal. Mike, where were they last year in terms of redraft? Where were they drafted? I think they were both. They were like wide receiver 12, 13, 14 between – I don't remember the order, but it was 12, 13, 14 with Waddle, Higgins, and Devonta Smith. Like the three.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So that would be, is that three disappointments? Yeah, I think so. I don't think Devonta Smith was a. Yeah, the second round was atrocious this year. Yeah, and that's where Olave was. As the resident burn victim from T. Higgins. Oh, man. It's, last year is is you can explain it away. And sometimes that's what you need.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Sometimes you need to – what is the story of what happened? And where with Waddle, I don't think it's as easy to explain the ups and the downs where like last year to start the year, we all kind of forget Joe Burrow had the calf injury. The first four games for Joe Burrow, he scored 3.2 fantasy points. Week two against Baltimore, 15.4 has a good game. Tee Higgins had a great game. Then the next two weeks for Tee Higgins are terrible. Also Joe Burrow in those two games, 8.2 points, 4.7. It took an entire month before Joe Burrow was finally recovered
Starting point is 00:36:50 from the calf injury, and then Tee Higgins got hurt, and then Joe Burrow went out for the season. And I had – because I had totally wiped from my memory. You guys remember week 15 and 16, Tee Higgins was a top 10 fantasy wide receiver those weeks? Because I didn't remember those. Chase gone those weeks? I believe he was gone. Let me double check that. Maybe not. Right now...
Starting point is 00:37:13 He was gone for one of them. Right now, you have to choose between T. Higgins and Drake London. Who do you choose? Higgins. If it's right now. I don't know who the guy as of right now I assume rookie quarterback okay so with a rookie quarterback I would go Waddle or Drake London Waddle okay I wanted to do a little Drake London temperature taking yeah Drake London's I'm
Starting point is 00:37:37 uh he's I might be really in I love it I love might be real in. The world needs Drake London to be good. I think right now when you draft a player like Drake London, you are taking one of Mike's things to remember. When the ADP is already baked in, the fear or the problems or the downside, which I don't know what his is off the top of my head. Pull that up, Kyle. For who? For Drake London.
Starting point is 00:38:01 But right now it's like the fear is baked in that he's going to have a bad quarterback. 26. Yeah, exactly. He's such a perfect target. We can't talk about him. He's a great target right now. You have to use a code name. Because wide receiver 26 seems like we're about... What's something that comes from London that so many people won't know? The Queen. Oh, wait. Don't talk about the Queen,
Starting point is 00:38:20 man. Come on. You already did it once, man. The Queen isn't here. We could talk about Big Ben and people think we're talking about Ben Roethlisberger. No, that's too confusing. I'll get confused. I'll think you're talking about Big Ben Roethlisberger. All right. Meat pie.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Bangers and mash. What's everything? Fish and chips. What's every generic thing we know about that country? What if we just change his name to like Drake France? How about the West End? Drac Paris. The West End.
Starting point is 00:38:44 The West End? Yeah, that's the Broadway of England. See, of course you know that. Of course you know that. Have you been to the West End? I haven't done a Europe trip. I haven't really been to Europe. I don't need to get over there.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Live show? Usually if you haven't done a Europe trip, you haven't done a Europe trip. Sorry. You just repeated yourself, and it was very funny to me. I just think Drake London... I think the problem is if they do land somebody anybody has any kind of confidence in, he will be the most obvious breakout candidate possible. But if it is a rookie, that's when you start to get...
Starting point is 00:39:19 It gets interesting because we'll have the Stroud with Collins and Tank Dell template from last year, but if it's J.J. McCarthy, you're telling me people aren't going to doubt Drake London? There's going to be huge doubt. Well, that's what I'm saying. Mike's tip of saying if your ADP already has the negative baked in, which I think if J.J. McCarthy is their quarterback, Drake London will go about wide receiver 26, but if they go and sign Kirk Cousins, where's he going to be?
Starting point is 00:39:45 Is he going to be like a – He'll be like Garrett Wilson hype-like from last year. Yeah, exactly. Over the last two seasons, London has posted 2.47 yards per route run in three wide receiver sets, and we bring that up because the new OC, Zach Robinson, is coming from the McVay system, so more wide receivers on the field. And we'll see if Drake Lennon can do it.
Starting point is 00:40:09 He just needs the ball thrown near him. That's the big thing. YouTube question from that guy. Hey, that guy. I know that guy. I'm thinking of making my league's trophy presentation to be like a wedding. I'd like the defending champ to be at the altar with the new champ. The last place team
Starting point is 00:40:26 then walks the championship ring down the aisle. Okay. With the second to last place team scattering rose petals. Okay. How can the rest of the 12-team league be involved? I will start by saying I was... I've never heard this.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I'm a little hesitant. I was sold. By the end of that paragraph, I am in. This is very funny. I love it. But how do we get? I mean, I imagine second, third, fourth, and fifth are standing there like the best men. Yeah, you need some groomsmen. And then the rest of them, you have to take a side like when you sit on the groom's side or the bride's side.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Well, one of them has got to be the, is the commish the, like the pastor? Yeah. But what if the commish is one of them has got to be the, is the commish the, like the pastor? Yeah. But what if the commish is one of those four? You can't play both roles. You still have to. Then you hire a real pastor. Also, I do feel like now we're talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:19 This is a sanctioned religious ceremony. You pay the pastor to do a wedding the regular rate, and you don't tell him what's going on until he gets there. And you just say, stand right there. We don't need to rehearse. We just need you to stand there. I'm not sure I can wed a trophy and a man. All right. Quick break. You will do it, Reverend.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Back with another question. All right. Back into the mailbag. This question comes from Connor over on Instagram. Which player do you think will have a career resurgence in 2024? So that means that they need one. So it'd be easy to look at maybe Pollard. You could look at maybe pollard uh you could look at the name that comes to mind to me it does not count because it is not a resurgence because he hasn't really hasn't been a surge it hasn't but it's kyle pitts is he i mean his rookie season season counts enough for that
Starting point is 00:42:22 i think kyle pitts could have a resurgence. It absolutely does. Then I think Kyle Pitts could have a resurgence. How about Stephon Diggs? Man. They believe it. They do. A Matthew Barry's article from the Combine talking about the team. They just look at him as their one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I hope so. But I've passed him in every single draft. So you're out. I'm out on Diggs this year. It's crazy because, like, Gabe Davis is gone. Stevan Diggs is the one for the one. Right? He's the one for the number one quarterback in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah. That should be automatic. It should. It really should. Have been automatic last half of last year. Didn't Amari Cooper have really weird runs with Dak where he was like magma hot fire? His whole career he would have.
Starting point is 00:43:11 He was real streaky. But then like six games go by and you're like, I mean, that's probably half of why they got rid of him. And then they're like, whoops. It could be. It could be. Man, a full resurgence. Zach Ertz in Washington, obviously.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Oh, yeah, Russell Wilson. Mark Andrews is one name that you could bring up because I feel like – All that takes is health. Just if he plays 16, he's resurgent. That's saying something, though, for him. Oh, for sure. Yeah, I mean, that's like – 100%, but that's the easiest bet to make.
Starting point is 00:43:40 He just is so low in our best ball draft. I mean, it shows you that he's not being assumed. No, it is not. And I think people are very, very worried that they're not going to get 17 games from Mark Andrews. And I don't blame them for being worried because you haven't got 17
Starting point is 00:43:58 games from him. You don't worry about Isaiah Likely because the second he was back, he was a huge part of the offense. No, I don't worry about Isaiah Likely. I think Likely can survive and do his own thing aside from Andrews. When you're the one in an offense, when you're the number one target in an offense, which Mark Andrews has been for his tenure with Lamar Jackson, that's not something where the backup tight end is going to steal those looks.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I'm going to throw this next question over. Let Papa Josh ask it. Instagram question there. Do you see it, Josh? Yeah. Who has won the most League of Record titles between you three? Unfortunately. That's a good question that you came up with.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Unfortunately, it's now a tie. Woo! It's a tie. Mike and I have three Jason has two Yep So we have we got eight Eight in sixteen years that's pretty good That is eight in sixteen years That is
Starting point is 00:44:57 Above average Yeah so there you go Um Thanks for asking Josh Appreciate that If you count Josh we have nine Yeah, yeah. So there you go. Thanks for asking, Josh. Yeah, appreciate that. If you count Josh, we have nine as a four pack. You know what I mean? I would never.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. Never. We have eight. I will count Jeremy's if he ever gets one. We have. Oh, man. It's when he lowers. So we will stay at eight at eight so when he lowers his chair a little bit over there uh into the ocean he goes all right youtube question this is a bunch of uh keep
Starting point is 00:45:35 breeze hall questions okay okay uh big ham wants to know you can keep breeze or bijon who are you keeping i'm i'm I've said it once. I'll say it again. I'm going to keep Brees. I don't blame you at all. If it is Dynasty, I'm on the Bichon side. Redraft, I think I'm on Brees. We'll go Reed.
Starting point is 00:45:55 We'll just do both. Why not? I think I'm with Jason. I think I'm with Jason. That Bichon would be my Dino pick, and Brees would be my redraft. And then this YouTube question from Joe says, PPR 12 team keep one, Brees or Gibbs? It is a full PPR, and I'm taking Brees.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I'll go Brees. Yep. Instagram question from Maddie. What do you think David Montgomery's role will be this season? Refer to the 2023 tape. Yeah. Or season. Refer to the 2023 tape. Yeah. Or you can refer to the 2022 tape where Jamal Williams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I mean, I don't – I think it's going to be a small step down from last year's output. Okay. A little bit? Yeah. I think it's more indicative of the second half of the season when he was almost like a Bryan Robinson-style steady Eddie as opposed to a multi-touchdown breakout type of player.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I don't know if he's – I mean, he could do it, right? He could make – he could have a huge run and he'll be fine. I still think he's very good. Dude, it's so wild. So after his injury, so we have week 10 through 18, which is that his nine games played and he did not score a rushing touchdown in two of them yeah i mean it was but yet they're in that stretch only only one time was he inside the top 10 finishes right uh twice but yes he i mean depending on what inside the top 10 is
Starting point is 00:47:20 is number 10 inside the top 10 yeah because you're if you did a top 10 countdown you would start i need you to teach me how to say it the way i mean it you say in the top nine that's not i that doesn't work for me i need a way to say the words top 10 but only mean the top nine right because that frames my argument better yeah for sure um but he but either way you know what i'm saying like he was a even though he scored like games with a touchdown 13 finished at 13th 15th 17th and 21st
Starting point is 00:47:52 that sounds like Brian Robinson to me did not finish ahead of the top 10 he only finished ahead oh you were searching for me of number 10 one time not inside but ahead of. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:06 It's tough. That's really tough. Better than the top 10. It just feels like lying. It does. You know what I mean? But I'm trying to. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:13 We're trying to figure out a lie. Three catches on third down on the whole year. Like, Jameer Gibbs is definitely the future. He's definitely the explosive game. But if you look at from the bye week on, David Montgomery was still going to put up 230 carries for 1,100 yards. And most importantly. And 13 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:48:36 13 touchdowns. I mean, the touchdowns are what Jamal Williams did. Jamal Williams was much less special, but he had so many touchdowns. Do you think he'll be undervalued? I do. I think David Montgomery he'll be undervalued? I do. I think David Montgomery will absolutely be undervalued. Right now, running back 20 if you're playing best ball, which is right around Ramondre, Nick Chubb, and Tony Pollard. He finished as the running back 13, and he missed three games.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Really, four games. Yeah, it's tough, though, when you've got a superstar. Oh, I get it. I get it. That's why the ADP is going to be lower. Yeah. But it's baked in, right? That's the tip.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It's baked in, but it's also an unknown. It's just like David Montgomery's utilization, we don't expect to change, but it could. It could, but if it does change, I think he'll be about the running back 20 where he's being drafted. Gotcha. In the upside case. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That makes sense. He feels like, let's say Gibbs and Monty are healthy all year long through a miracle. Montgomery's going to finish in the top 24. And then if Gibbs misses time, then you get huge boom opportunity. Nate, Kennedy wants to know, do you rename your team each season or choose a timeless name? I have a story for this.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Okay. It will answer the question the way we have always answered it but it will do it with an example our answer is we keep a name because you're building a dynasty right you're building a legend i met somebody this past week at my daughter's softball practice. And it was a gentleman who plays a lot of fantasy football. This gentleman had CeeDee Lamb and Tyreek Hill as his wide receivers this past season. How do you think he finished? Champion?
Starting point is 00:50:20 I think he did pretty well. He was not the champion because somebody in the league's name was C.D.'s Nuts. And he felt like he should probably help the dude out and trade him C.D. Lamb so it matched his team name. Wait, he did? It was his best friend, and his best friend really wanted the player that his name was and then got C.D. Lamb from him and then won the championship with CeeDee Lamb over him. There's no best friends in fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Yeah, that was one of the 18 things I explained to him. What did he get back? Not enough. Not enough. There was no way midway through last year you could have received enough for CeeDee Lamb to have paid off in the end. The point being, I was right before his real run. The point being is that like, if you have a team name is based on a player,
Starting point is 00:51:11 sometimes you don't trade that player away. If it's the inverse, apparently you can trade the player away. Look, uh, we, we like, you know, I like the creative nicknames. Yeah. They're fun. If you're in, I like locking it down. You're in a full redraft, but it also is nice, like, not just for your own team. Like, you know, I love, you know, having the Dead Ringers
Starting point is 00:51:31 or having the Ventura Bravehearts as my teams, but I also like knowing everyone else's team and not having to spend the first couple weeks, because some leagues it's not like that that I'm in, and everybody changes, and I'm like, who is this? That being said, I changed my name to McCaffrey's Hill, so please trade me those players. I like this from Jason who has rebranded his team
Starting point is 00:51:52 more than anyone else in the league. You can rebrand every, you know. That's changing your name. Yeah, I mean, a franchise in the NFL goes through that. They do it too. We haven't had the Washington Commanders very long. I changed. Was your previous name somewhat questionable?
Starting point is 00:52:08 I changed my co-manager. You don't want to take that on. No, it was the change of ownership. Yeah, no. It was a change of ownership at the top. You don't have to be defensive. Your old name sucked. No, my old name was great.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Oh, wait. Which one? Over 16 years, I've had three names. Oh, man. Yeah, but that's when we hit you with it. In the last eight years, you've had three names. Fair. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:39 But yeah, keep your name. It's fun. This isn't a real question. Dagger, how is Mike's hair so luscious? He's wearing a hat, guys. It's because sometimes you got to contain it. Sometimes. Look, when you have hair like this on a day-to-day basis
Starting point is 00:52:57 and you're walking down the street. It's too much. And cars are crashing. Right. People are falling over. It's too much sometimes. How much of it is. People are falling over. It's too much sometimes. How much of it is it you sit next to Jason and you feel like. I've absorbed his follicle nature.
Starting point is 00:53:12 No, you didn't absorb his hair. It's just that do you feel like you just cause kind of like a disproportionality of talent. I want to teach you a lesson, Mike. I want to teach you. I want to teach you how stupid you're being by the hat thing. All right. I want you to Google John Stamos in a hat, and I want you to see someone that it does not matter.
Starting point is 00:53:34 This is a human being that does not matter. John Stamos in a hat. Oh, he looks terrible. Who is that? I don't know. I don't care. He looks stupid. Wow, John Stamos in a hat looks like a regular old weirdo.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Just a regular old weirdo. I don't know what you guys are talking about. He still looks great. Wow, John Stamos in a hat looks like a regular old weirdo. Just a regular old weirdo. I don't know what you guys are talking about. He still looks great. Just a dude. But you search John Stamos, and you go, that's John Stamos. Yeah, but me and John Stamos understand the power and the responsibility. Honestly, him in a hat kind of looks like Bob Saget. Yeah, I mean, they might as well be twins.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Wow. Take that hat off and shine. Yeah, not today. Well, not today. You've already got a hat on. Feels like that's a Pixar movie waiting to happen. Somebody with powerful hair, and then every time they take the hat off, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:54:19 All right. I was waiting for it. Yeah, I'm just going to stop. Final question here, Instagram. Matt wants to know, Dynasty keep trade cut. Gus Edwards, Josh Palmer, Curtis Samuel. Well, come on. I'm keeping Josh Palmer.
Starting point is 00:54:33 As am I. Right now, it's really hard to imagine the Chargers cap situation, bringing back both wide receivers as is. Now, they might restructure one of Keenan Allen or Mike Williams, but they might just cut Mike Williams. And if they do, Josh Palmer's shown some flashes, been good when one of the other two guys is injured, and so he's the easy keep for me.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Good-ish. He's so weird. Josh Palmer is so weird. So is Curtis Samuel. Yeah, weird. So is John Stamos in a hat. Weird. Those players only perform when you don't expect them to
Starting point is 00:55:08 or when the situation is slightly weirder than you think. Like Palmer had a huge chance, remember, two years ago? And you're like, what's going on? But, you know, I don't know. All right, any other questions for us, Brooks, that we have to answer? Anything you've got? No, you got them. You already said final question.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Nothing luscious hair related? One last question. All right. Thanks for tuning in. Free agent frenzy next week. Thank you for joining us. Make sure you check out the Dynasty podcast. If you want more fantasy footballers every Wednesday, check that out.
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