Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Starts of the Week + Week 10 Breakdown, Loose Moose - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/7

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Troy Polomalu and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in! It's football time! For reals! It's not Wednesday! Welcome in one and all! It's Thursday.
Starting point is 00:00:43 And boy oh boy. It's football time. It is football time. Very excited about tonight's game. Even more excited now that I know that the ravens are wearing their purple rising helmets tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I have not seen that. Did you know that? All I see is the chitter chatters about the Houston Texans wearing their red getup, which is in fuego. It is very, very nice. So wait, the Ravens are wearing something cool? Purple Rise helmet, you said? Purple Rising, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It's a purple helmet. It's a big hat. Ooh. OK. What do you think? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Are they Matt?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah, they're Matt Let's go. So it's a battle of the jerseys this weekend. Oh, that's Texans are gonna win that. Sorry, but with that they have the gloss the Texan red Red uniform is is incredible. Yeah. Well, hey the drip is back. Let's let's get after it Well, it does make us buy more things. I mean, it just does. The NBA figured this out. Is that why they do it? I mean, the NBA has these city jerseys every year and and I buy them. You buy them every year. I mean, welcome and we have a great show for you. We want to get you ready for week 10. Get you prepped for your fantasy football matchups. I received a text from my son this morning
Starting point is 00:02:09 who is managing a team in jeopardy of, well, whatever the last place punishment is. Oh no. But he sent me a, he said, here is the state of my bench right now. And it's just like, questionable, questionable, Olave is doubtful. Yeah, that's, come on. Likely is out, J questionable questionable, Olavi is doubtful. Yeah that's, come on man.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Likely is out, Juju questionable, ET unquestionable. So he's in the same boat of many of us where we're trying to navigate. Who do you even hold onto when they're injured? I have a roster where the entire bench is just bi-players. Yeah. Like the bi-week players is ridiculous. That makes it easy to start set decisions though.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That part is good. You know, it's like, I'm not gonna mess this one up. But should I get any bumps in the road here heading into the weekend, it will be chaos. So we've got matchups on today's show. We've got two big pieces of news to discuss, in my opinion. I think there are two really big pieces of news. One of them had to do with the Carolina Panthers. One of them has to do with Kendra
Starting point is 00:03:12 Miller. And so we'll talk about those three big pieces. Yeah. The kind of stuff is that's good stuff. Yeah, you're right. Three. And so we'll get into that. A reminder, the ultimate dashboard available now along with bonus episodes of the show and a ton of premium perks and resources like the Strength of Schedule tool, the consistency charts, the Stream Finder tool, all of that available at jointhefoot.com.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And all of that now available on the mobile app as well, the Fantasy Footballers mobile app on iOS. And I think... I believe it is up. Oh, on iOS and I think. I believe it is up. Oh, this morning? I think so, I think I. On Android. On Android, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:51 So go see if there's an update, if you are on Android and grab it and use that spot start tool this week. I've seen a lot of people using the spot start tool that they just don't really think enough about their defense. And so sometimes it's like they go to the spot start and they're like, oh, looks like there's a better matchup
Starting point is 00:04:09 to play this week for my defense. And then they report back, it's like, oh, I won the week because it won't always work, but at least it's another set of eyeballs on your specific roster and your specific leagues. And now on mobile. That was a very infomercial finish to what you said. All right. Into the news.
Starting point is 00:04:31 News and notes from around the league presented by us. A insurance. Do you want the rant or the reports first? Let's report and then rant. Report then rant? Yeah. If we're reporting, we'll start with the fact that, I mean, we just talked about it yesterday, but the Carolina Panthers like Chuba Hubbard so much that moments after our discussion
Starting point is 00:05:00 about his wonderful season. And being an unrestricted free agent. They signed him to a four year $33.2 million contract with $15 million guaranteed the day after, not even 24 hours after, they activated early, what, second round? Second round draft pick Jonathan Brooks. The first running back taken in this year's draft. They spent high draft capital. And keep in mind, their second round pick is a very high second round pick for the Panthers. This was an important piece to their franchise, Jonathan Brooks, they hope. They're the only ones that have seen it. And then they give a big bag of money
Starting point is 00:05:41 to Chuba, who has been good. And so I think our rants will be really on two sides here because I think Mike and I are on the not big GM side. And if he overhears big GM. I don't even, I'm big Chuba. First, good for you Chuba, get paid. 100%. We love that. If you're running back, get that money. But the building of a team that doesn't have
Starting point is 00:06:11 a franchise quarterback, they. Maybe. Well, okay, you're back on Bryce Young? No, on Bryce Young. Okay, we don't have to speak in extremes. I just said maybe. Okay, so the jury is still out currently. If you were the GM, if you were the GM right now.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And you end up with a top pick. I think in a vacuum, I like the move. I think if you want to contextualize it with how many holes they have to fill. And that is literally everything. All I'm saying. I don't think you cannot contextualize it. This isn't in a vacuum.
Starting point is 00:06:43 This is a very specific team that did this. There's no Hoover in sight. Take the vacuum out then. I will be the contrary. Okay. Chuba Hubbard is an outstanding running back. Yes. Who deserves this contract with a team. Yes. Your aspirations for Jonathan Brooks would be to achieve a level of efficiency similar to what Chuba Hubbard has performed for your terrible team that can't pass. Like Chuba's done so much in two years
Starting point is 00:07:10 without a threat of a pass. So I think Chuba independently, great running back, you hope Jonathan Brooks can become that. Brooks also coming off a serious injury. Also, and I know the comparison, you didn't like it as much, Jason, I'm still gonna to make it. The best team in football invested the most money in draft capital on David Montgomery and
Starting point is 00:07:31 Jameer Gibbs. The best, the highest paid contracts in football at running back, CMC, Taylor Barclay, Jacobs, Henry Mixon, playoff teams. We've also watched how horrible it has been for teams that have decided to punt the running back position. We also have come boys, cowboys, Raiders, uh, Bengals to an extent. The list goes on. There are more teams in that we can't say with one breath, help your future rookie quarterback or Bryce Young, either one. You can pick say with one breath, help your future rookie quarterback or Bryce Young, either one. You can pick either one. You got to get them something to help him. And then Bamone, a general manager on a team willing to spend that money, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:08:13 So you need two backs in this league because if one goes down and you're running out junk behind him, now this is a full nut kick to every Jonathan Brooks dynasty manager in the universe the universe because wide foot. Yeah, it's a wide foot. We've talked about it It may be going up inside you the foot is doing things but the reality is is is You you wanted Jonathan Brooks to have the opportunity to be Joe mixin or or Saquon Barkley or Joe Mixon or Saquon Barkley or Eckler in his prime, the guy and that's gone. Yeah, that well and that is the issue I see from a team building standpoint is and I will credit them or at least give them the benefit of the doubt in that maybe they being the
Starting point is 00:08:59 only ones right now who have seen Jonathan Brooks practicing and seeing what he's doing. Maybe they're disappointed. Maybe they're going, man, we expected him to really be a sensation here at practice and he's not, we're worried, let's make sure we've got Chuba in the future, I don't know. But when they drafted Jonathan Brooks as the first running back off the board, this was to be their, we talked about the Rashad White role that Dave Canales had just had, whereas you've got this bell cow back, this great pass catching back that's a centerpiece of your offense who doesn't come off the field much. We hoped that they had that, and if they did, to then spend that much money when
Starting point is 00:09:33 they have so many holes on the roster and have a double investment. I know the Lions did it to success, but the Lions are doing it behind an incredible offensive line with a great team. They were already above 500. They were nine and eight when they let Jamal Williams go and in that off season did those moves. So I see it as wildly different. This is a franchise that has so many needs to dump a four-year extension on an unrestricted free agent, Middling Jag, where you're competing against yourself here on the contract. He's not setting the, if Chuba goes out to the open market, is he getting this money from another franchise? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You think he is? Oh yeah. I do. I mean, then- I don't think they're competing against themselves. I think that it was, I honestly think they may have got him a little bit cheaper than what his fair market contract would be.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And this is like Chuba saying, no, I'm not going to, he could risk it and go out there and, and see if the market and end up being wrong or take a guaranteed $15 million. So good for you, Chuba. Here we thought we were just reporting and not ranting silly. No, we said we report then rant. Oh, in the same news story. Got it. Well, listen, there's another report. Well, actually, there's two more reports.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm going to rant on all of them. You give me the report. Well, Dak and Trevor Lawrence are the two that I want to bring up. Two quarterbacks throwing the football to CDLAM, Brian Thomas, Jr. They look like they could be on the shelf. Dak Prescott, the technical term, partial evulsion of the hamstring,
Starting point is 00:11:06 the non-technical term, ripped off the bone. Ooh. I do love meat off the bone. Well. But just not in this situation. No, not in this situation. Less delicious. I don't know that you like muscle.
Starting point is 00:11:19 What do you think the meat is you're eating, Mike? Is it pure muscle? Yeah. All right. You're eating muscle. I mean, it's more fat, but you don't like the fatty parts. So listen. That's the flavor.
Starting point is 00:11:29 That's flavor town. Dak, we're not eating Dak's hamstring, first of all. Second of all, he may require surgery. So C.D. Lamb said he's gonna be out there on Sunday, but he's gonna be out there with a different quarterback, likely Cooper Rush with a pinch of Trey Lance. I mean, I don't know what clown show play calling is going to happen, but Cooper Rush, two quarterback leagues, pick him up. Would you rather pick up Mack Jones or Cooper Rush in two quarterback leagues? Because we
Starting point is 00:11:58 haven't got to the Trevor Lawrence. Well, let's just share that real quick. Trevor Lawrence, left shoulder, weighing options. There was a report from, I believe, Jay Gruden saying that it's gonna be surgery for Lawrence. So Mac Jones or Cooper Rush, which would I rather have? I think Mac Jones is a better quarterback. I don't know. But I think the game plan for the Jacksonville Jaguars
Starting point is 00:12:24 is gonna revolve around the running game because they can do it with Bigsby and ETN, whereas in Dallas they can't and they'll have to throw and their defense has struggled. I tend to lean Cooper Rush. Oh, I'm more on the Mac Jones side simply. I realize you've got Seedy and that's awesome. That might be enough to take Cooper Rush over the top, but you do have weapons in Evan Ingram and Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Etienne
Starting point is 00:12:49 out of the backfield. Mac Jones, you know, he was a top 15 draft pick. He's been a starter in the league. Yeah, he was. It was incorrect. His rookie year, Mac Jones looked absolutely fantastic for a rookie. I mean, he didn't look bad.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And the offense sputtered and sucked, and he certainly, I'm not sitting here banging the drum that Mack Jones is a great quarterback, but he showed enough where as a competent backup who can come in and run an NFL offense, there are some times where these backup quarterbacks come in, and I think this could be the situation with Cooper Rush, where they come in and it is, the offense is over.
Starting point is 00:13:29 We saw that in Miami where it's like, the offense didn't work without two, it just flat didn't work, you couldn't do anything. And I don't see that for Mac Jones. Mac Jones is going to struggle. He might be on the Kenny Pickett starter level, but he can still get the ball to Brian Thomas Jrr. a little bit more and and I would expect him to score more points than then Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush is five and one in starts. Yep. He
Starting point is 00:13:56 also only threw three he threw three total picks it was all in one game and didn't throw any interceptions in there there Their other three victories, one 20 to 17, two to three 16. That was a much better. That was two years ago. That was a much better Dallas Cowboys team. So we'll see, I mean, right now, Jason says he'd add Matt Jones,
Starting point is 00:14:14 I'd add Cooper Rush, but I'd add them both. And we're losing what we came to expect from these offenses, that's the fundamental truth. I will say if my dream comes true, CD's fine. Elavi's gonna take time off before returning to the field? Yeah. And the big news that I wanted to just make a pure rant is that the news is reporting now,
Starting point is 00:14:42 I mean we're getting sources close to the situation telling us that essentially Dennis Allen put Kendra Miller on the injured reserve out of spite! I mean, they were jokes. He? They were not actually jokes. The best jokes are based in truth.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Comedy is based in truth. And the thing is, and the whole old rant against Dennis Allen was like, you suck as far as taking care of your players, building them up. You were frustrated at a player getting injured. And you let that internalize and make you into a mad person instead of being a rise above it head coach. And yeah, so what is- Yeah, I mean, basically he had a hamstring injury. Miller does. The team acknowledged this was a minor injury and out of pure,
Starting point is 00:15:33 unadulterated spike, he put them on the, on the IR, because he couldn't rely on him. It's funny when he went on the IR, we thought as a, as a collective, we were like, Oh yeah, man, Dennis Allen the IR, we thought as a collective, we were like, oh, man, Dennis Allen's gonna be so pissed that Kendra Miller's on the IR again. And little did we know, he was celebrating. He put him there. He was like, get rid of that.
Starting point is 00:15:54 But I'll bet he's- You're going in time out, Kendra. Yeah, here's what he did. I saw some footage inside his office. He made the call, said put him on IR. He got up, he walked over. He had a signed football hanging on his wall. He picked that football up, he made the call, said put him on IR, he got up, he walked over, he had a signed football hanging on his wall, he picked that football up,
Starting point is 00:16:07 he spiked it, he was so thrilled with his transaction, and then the team removed Dennis Allen from the premises and said you are no longer the head coach. Well, what else do we have news-wise? We have Gus Edwards coming back from injured reserve. You have Will Levis was limited. He's going to practice a bit more for the Titans. So we could be back to Will Levis for the starter as the Titans.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And we are getting a report that Baker Mayfield is not practicing today. However, we are told he will be fine. So if you see Baker's not there, that's the report we have right now. Yeah, long Monday night game with 40 plus passes makes sense to take a day. Nico Collins? Oh man. So I heard, so he's passed all the tests for his hamstring.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Jason is as close to flying to freaking Houston as a man has ever been. Yeah, I'm gonna talk. He wants a pair of binoculars. I want to just have a conversation with the people around there and know what's going on and really encourage them to get Neiko back out on the field. My understanding, no setbacks.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He has his full speed and mobility there. Past the tests. I heard, and more information on the tests, he was running at over 20 miles an hour, which is I mean that's full speed That's you know, the the the the the tweets that go out also, you know 20 miles an hour or whatever Yeah, but did he practice? No, he's not practicing and they don't know if he's gonna play this week What are you like? Come on, don't play it safe. No risk. No biscuit I mean, I need I need Nico now tell that to Mike Evans. Does it help? Yeah, well that was different
Starting point is 00:17:49 He was literally hobbling on the sideline with a hamstring problem And there was like I'm gonna go back out for one more play and then another and go wouldn't do that I'm not saying he wouldn't do at my point is right now. He's fine. He's had the weeks off Maybe he passed all the tests Mike. I don't know how bad these tests are, but he's fine. He's had the weeks off. Maybe. He passed all the tests, Mike. I don't know how bad these tests are, but he's passed whatever test they came up with. Do you, are you excited that it's a Sunday Night Matchup? I am not excited that it's a Sunday Night Matchup.
Starting point is 00:18:15 I really, really need, I just made a huge trade for him. And in so doing, got rid of other startable players. You were trying to get rid of the injury uncertainty that is Pukinakua. Yes, and instead I picked up the, I mean, here's what I picked up. I picked up the fully healthy and ready to dominate Nikko. I'm just tilting in preparation.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I can't, those Houston Texans, man. You know, I've said. Up to no good, just taking a fully healthy player and say we're not gonna play him. Right, Mike? Yeah, no practice. That's unbelievable. And we don't need that guy look at our yeah, we're core without our passing game is dominating because we got these cool helmets All right, I want to see Nico in that uniform Good
Starting point is 00:18:58 To you better. Hope he stays healthy if he plays that was today's news and notes presented by usaa insurance learn more at usaa.com Insurance will take a break We'll come back with our starts of the week Before we get into the start to the week I'm not sure if we missed the news but regarding tonight's matchup Isaiah likely Isaiah Likely is out. And T Higgins is, listed as doubtful, I can't imagine any place. What a free agent year for T Higgins. He is, he's not doing the Chuba path.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, but the thing is, is he's a wide receiver, not a running back. So when he hits the free agent market, if he literally doesn't play another game this entire year, he will get a super big bag of money. Maybe. I'll put a dollar on it right now. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Okay. So if he doesn't play a game for the rest of the year. Right. Well, that's not a very good bet. So yeah, I mean, T is necessary for this team to make the playoffs, I think. Yeah, their offense is not as good without them. Sticky Gussicki is a play tonight.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Agreed. And I think a play over most tight ends, other than the top four or five. Let's jump in. Starts of the week. All right, starts of the week for week 10. I'm going to start with my quarterback, a player that I tried to pick up off of the waiver wire to play this week over Kyler Murray. And instead my opponent picked him up and will be playing them against me. It's Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:20:42 The 49ers are coming off the buy. They got a 28 point implied total. They're on the road in Tampa who gives up a ton of points and look there is a variable there for Brock Purdy. Oh yes there is. And you think I'm gonna say Christian McCavrey. Yeah. Christian McCavrey helps. I'm talking about rushing touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, that's true. Mason was scoring rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:21:11 To me, it is actually the health and wellness of Debo Samuel and Joanne Jennings who both did not practice on Wednesday, even though they've been off the buy. I think they're gonna play football. But if you go out there and it's Kittle and Pearsall and dot dot dot, that would be the only concern. But if those guys are back out there,
Starting point is 00:21:30 I just don't see a path where Purdy isn't 202 in this game, which is the streaming standard. And the upside is even greater with the ability to throw the football to Christian McCaffrey. I think we're all really anticipating that debut, but you know Tampa's shown an ability, even against Kansas City, to put up enough points to make the game more competitive.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And I think the 49ers are a step down from where they were in the kind of dominating everybody tier last year, so I think it will be more competitive. Yeah, I love the matchup. That's why I want to brock on my team. If he doesn't have his weapons, another good option. My start of the week was my stream of the week.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It's Kirk Cousins against New Orleans, in New Orleans. The Falcons have a 25 point team applied total. That's good. Since week five, you had Kirk Cousins coming off the Achilles, but he's been on an absolute heater. He's 72% completion percentage. He's on pace since that time for 5,000 yards and 44 touchdowns. I mean, any quarterback, 4,500 passing yards and 35 touchdowns, that's
Starting point is 00:22:32 going to be basically a top six fantasy quarterback. He's been blowing that out of the water. And over the last month, the Saints schedule adjusted their 25th in allowing fantasy points to quarterbacks. So eat it, Dennis. Dennis Allen, you can watch your former team get cooked by Kirk Cousins. And just like my Brock Purdy, Deebo, Juan Jennings situation, do you retract your confidence that Drake London is not available? Yeah, it certainly makes it more difficult where I might look at other options, but the expectation that I have seen so far this week is they're day to day and should be good to go this weekend. Mine's pretty clear cut. It's Sam Darnold of the Minnesota Vikings against the Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:23:16 He's been top 10 four times. He's really only had one dud and that was against the New York Jets. So that happens. He leads the NFL in passing touchdowns inside the 10. That is fabulous, and just, it's the matchup. We've been talking about it all year. However, just to remind you, the Jags defense, 30 seconds in schedule adjusted points to the quarterback, 30 second in expected points added per play, 30 second in yards per play, 31st in explosive pass rate.
Starting point is 00:23:42 This is a very good situation for the Vikings. There are 32 teams in the NFL. Yeah, yes, and they are last in nearly every metric. All right, let's turn over to Deandre Swift at running back. I'm gonna take him against New England. You know, last week that offense really, really struggled. The Shane Waldron experience, the Waldron Express derailing at the moment. What? But Swift is averaging 19 opportunities per game. He's been the running back six since week four.
Starting point is 00:24:16 The Patriots are 31st in schedule, adjusted fantasy points allowed to running backs. This is going to be a game you can win on the ground, protect your quarterback, and so I'm gonna go De'Andre Swift. I'm going with James Connor at home against the Jets. Really? Oh my. Yes, I think he's a good start. You ignore the fact that last week two other Cardinal running backs scored touchdowns. James Connor was awesome in that game. Yeah, he was dominant. He went over a hundred yards against the Bears. He's the engine of this offense. He's seen 40% of the team's total rush attempts plus targets over the last three weeks. That is a phenomenal number. And on the road this
Starting point is 00:24:53 year, the Jets have allowed the six most fantasy points to running backs. Jordan Mason was the running back three. Tony Pollard was a running back two. He had five receptions. The Minnesota running backs combined for 18 fantasy points and a touchdown. Ramondre Stevenson had two touchdowns, was the RB7. Joe Mixon last week was over 100 yards, was the running back 11. At home, they're favored by a point. James Connor is the engine. He should be a great start, should be started. Going Tyrone Tracy in the international game against the Carolina Panthers. He's averaging 18 opportunities a game over the last five with three top ten performances in that span. He's a good player. The Giants, they found themselves
Starting point is 00:25:33 a player later in the draft, so congratulations to them. And the matchup and later in life. He's an elder statesman for a rookie. Carolina, dead last in schedule, just the points to running backs. It's going to be great for Tracy. I'm going to go with the other side of Jason's start of the week, Kirk Cousins. I'm going Darnell Mooney against New Orleans. He is the wide receiver 12 on this season. He is a player that I think a lot of decisions
Starting point is 00:26:02 have to be made on a weekly basis, because you didn't draft him to be a starter and now he's turned into that. Drake London's banged up. We've talked about the Saints. They struggle against wide receivers, 26th, and Fantasy Point's given up. And guess what? No more Marshawn Latimore. Let's get Darnell Mooney out there and he's my start of the week. And oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:26:22 What do you got? Nothing. What? No. What, no. What? Oh, you just, you didn't see mine. Yeah. I told him as I was walking out the building yesterday, said, Jason, you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You don't have to do it. That's right, I don't. But I get to. Quadruple down. Hey, look, when I made him my start of the week last time, he was fine. Caught a touchdown. Last week, He's coming off of 126 yards, nine targets. He had a great game. He's playing good football. He's the first month of the season was terrible, but
Starting point is 00:26:54 my start of the week, Tank Del, has he's been good guys. This is the fact that you guys are like, you don't have to do this is a reason why I think it needs to be done because maybe people are still thinking he hasn't Been playing good football. He has double digit fantasy points at three of the last four weeks now Nico I expect back all the big, you know all the hullabaloo I expect back but either way whether he's back and it's just those two because Stefan Diggs is gone or Whether he's the only guy like he was last week when he got nine targets and led the team in target share and finally connected on a deep bomb 50 yarder. This is a team where you've got to throw the ball. Joe Mixon's going to have a tough time being the center of the offense
Starting point is 00:27:34 against the Detroit Lions. They're the second highest opponent pass rate in the NFL. You have to throw on Detroit. The Lions secondary ranks 28th in schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to wide receivers and wide receivers in the slot where Tankdell is good from there as well. They give up a lot of points there. So I think in Detroit, temperature controlled environment, good game script for him. Tankdell should be started. I mean, you got to look at your options, but he's a good start. Did you just edge at the end? A little bit my point. I'm just saying. You made this long robust compelling argument. It was fully statistically based. It all made sense. It had convinced me. Well here and now I'm out. No. No. And then it's like good.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I'm looking at the other pieces on my team My point is putting them in the lineup now They're looking at the other ocean put them in the lineup if you've got but look at the other pieces on your team Yes, in case you don't want to do it if you've got you know, if you're making a decision between Devante Smith You know or tank tell nobody's making that decision. Okay, well then then we're good here They're right. All right. All right. Who would you start genuine question? We got two starts of the week, and honestly they're back to back in my rank. Mooney.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Tank Del or Darnell Mooney. Yeah, Mooney. Okay, so there's a situation where it's like, that's not an anti-Tank Del take, that's like Mooney's just been unstoppable. We're just having fun. We're just having fun. My wide receiver star of the week,
Starting point is 00:28:59 it's Joann Jennings with. What an idiot! Which, Andy, I will update you, Jennings and Samuel were listed as limited okay it was not an out of practice they are limited Jennings he hasn't played since week six but when he's been on the field like everything we wanted from Brandon Iuke it was like seems like Jennings might be that guy he's tied with Kittle for the team lead. Percent of routes targeted 25%. It's a 51 point over under and Tampa Bay's secondary is allowing the
Starting point is 00:29:29 most completions per game. The second most fantasy points to outside wide receivers. Great matchup. I know that Christian McCaffrey is back but I believe in the Brock Purdy start as well and I just want pieces of this game. Well I'm gonna need to borrow a pair. Oh brother, we got the blacksmiths working overtime this week. Is he? Which, let me hold on. Second tier.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I'm gonna look at, oh second, oh yeah you do. Pfft. TITANIUM UNDERPANTS. Yes, oh yes. I'm gonna try a rookie tight end on for size, along with those underpants. If you are not playing a top five tight end that you have confidence in, I think
Starting point is 00:30:11 Theo Johnson is an interesting streaming candidate against Carolina. You know, Darryl Slayton's dealing with the concussion. He has quietly ran the seventh most routes. Not quiet. I mean, that's a beast of a man out there. Theo Johnson for the Giants, 84% of snaps, seventh most routes at the position, scored last week,
Starting point is 00:30:33 at least three receptions the last two weeks. I think the matchup is just glorious. The Carolina Panthers, it's about the matchup. They're dead last against tight ends, and they also give up touchdowns, five in the last three weeks. So that's the play, it's a matchup play. I would jump in there versus trying to,
Starting point is 00:30:49 a good example here, I would not try to play the roulette in New Orleans. Foster-Moreau, Juwan Johnson, Taysom Hill, I would actually go Theo Johnson. Really? Yeah. I think I'd go Taysom over. That's fine. But I like the play, it's like Dalton Schultz. If you've been rolling him out, pick up old Johnson the the match us. He's so slow
Starting point is 00:31:09 The match was certainly there. I'm gonna make TJ Hawkinson my start of the week I think you can put him in the lineup last week We took a wait-and-see approach first game back only played 45% of the snaps He is a player that last year was often in the 80%, 90%. This is a full-time star tight end for their offense. They got him out in week one, let him play a little less than half the snaps. He looked good out there. I thought he was utilized well. He was targeted four times on 24 routes. I expect those numbers to come up this week. And the matchup, Mike, you talked about Jacksonville not good
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, well guess what yeah, not good against tight end I know it's shocking but since week three they ranked 30th and scheduled Justin fantasy points allowed to tight ends. Oh my Goodness what is happening and we have we are down a deuce her induces alley and it's the Falcon is Reported he's here the Falcon has hoods The Falcon is reported. He's here. The Falcon has... Hoods. Deucers be deucin', man. No, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Are you kidding me? No, I'm not. Is Papa Josh's... The show is an hour long. Poopa Josh? Poopa Josh. I mean, this is a one hour podcast. We just do it every day.
Starting point is 00:32:19 We even know the time during end season. We have the exact... It's a scheduled hour. Let me ask you something. How many shows have we done? We've done one, we're on show 1,672. Between all shows, thousands. Did any of us, have any of the three of us
Starting point is 00:32:35 ever had to go Falcon? Yes. One time, yes. Oh, okay, okay. We didn't have to pause the show once. All right. But this is becoming a theme, and I don't know if we should have like a health kick for our Deucer's Alley roll or... They are spending our money on new breakfasts every day.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah they are. I've seen this. I could smell it this morning. Oh, the oatmeal smelled delicious but it did... With a little extra fiber. It did not work well for Papa Josh or it worked really well depending on what your goals are. Alright Mike, Hunter, Henry, is your start of the week yet? Yeah. Hold on. Do you need them? Yes! Steel Underpants. Yes the week at tight end? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Do you need him? Yes! Steel Underpants. Yes, I'm putting Steel Underpants on. Steel is layer one but I don't think you need him. I don't think so either. I think you could take your underpants off. I think you can rock Donald Duck style here.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He's the tight end eight on the year. I'm keeping him on. He's the tight end eight and yet people, are people playing Hunter Henry? They're playing him over Theo, I know that. I'm keeping them on. He's the tight end eight. And yet people, are people playing Hunter Henry? Yeah. Playing him over Theo, I know that. In three, Drake May starts a 21% target share, averaging nearly six receptions per game. So we got a lot of tight ends here on the bye, Bowers,
Starting point is 00:33:40 the joku, Kraft. We got to find options that we could play. And I think that Hunter Henry, there's a great chance that him and Theo are on your way could play. And I think that Hunter Henry, there's a great chance that him and Theo are on your way for wire. And I think that they're both in play. The Bears, 23rd against, in schedule adjusted, against the tight end position. Evan Ingram, 10 receptions versus him in his first game
Starting point is 00:33:57 back. Zach Ertz, the jackpot Zach Ertz game, 7 for 77, was against the Bears. I'm pointing to Henry. Yeah, the Bears Bears defense their passing defense is very very good and especially against wide receivers and so if you are going to lock down pop Douglas and you know whoever else you know if if Jaylen Polk's getting an opportunity to do that we have to lock down pop Douglas my point is Hunter Henry is your is your primary outlet in this game. I like him as a start.
Starting point is 00:34:26 By the way, Brooksie pointing out that, look, we don't even change the clocks here. This is not like their cycle. Right. Their bowel cycle over there. Welcome back, Josh. Welcome back. How we doing? You thought we wouldn't-
Starting point is 00:34:37 I knew it. I knew it. Of course you knew it. Guys. Take a dump. Get dumped on on the show. Dang it. I can tell you a tip because I know, I don't know if this is like great for health or not.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Poop repeants? But no. You're allowed to hold it for like 45 more minutes. I already did that. I mean, I'm just saying, I've done it so many times in my life where I feel my body and my body goes, oh I think I can poop, and I'm like, what? Now's not the right time. I'm going to wait an hour. Not with these modern free bowel culture that we got.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I would have an argument of when my body's like, the rocket's on, we're clear for launch. I'm going. There's no hour holding. You are, yeah. But I'm more of a loose moose. Oh man, next segment, next segment, go! Look, we don't want to talk about these things, but we are, in fact, an authority. Oh, we we are, in fact, an authority. Yeah, oh, we sure are. OK.
Starting point is 00:35:47 All right, we have three deuces, and we have a make it four with this London game, maybe. The New York Giants at two and seven, taking on the Chuba Hubbard-led Carolina Panthers. Take that, London. Yeah, we'll watch this game, and you'll like it. We're giving you our best. By the way, the Browns Packers Raiders Seahawks on by but London it's a morning game
Starting point is 00:36:08 it's a 40 point over under according to DK Sportsbook the Giants six and a half point road favorites I do love me some Giants defense mm-hmm that is the go-to in this one I you know Bryce Young has played better, slightly, but there are still so many plays. Yeah, he has. So many plays in a game where I feel like he has, you know, moved around in the pocket, set himself up, planted his feet, and thrown a just nasty football. And so, the Giants defense is a great start here.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Malik Nabors, of course, Tyrone Tracy, of course, Mike, you brought him up, and his rushing line. All right, that was what I was gonna bring up. It's outrageous. On DK, it's 73.5 yards. That is awesome. Awesome first start of the week. You should not have traded him, Jason.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I can see that. You have Hawkinson. You probably want to play Hawkinson. Well, certainly because I- And you traded Tracy for an Ajoki. Yes, I did, but I got an upgraded pick swap as well in there. Glass half full. Hindsight being 20-20, I would rather have
Starting point is 00:37:07 time around Tracy. He's been outstanding. He has taken over the role ahead of Devon Siegel Terry. He's a great start this week against the Carolina Panthers because the Panthers, presumably they will be down in this game, which actually brings up to me, I think this is a good matchup for starts for the Giants. Not that anyone is not starting Malik neighbors, but Malik Neighbors, but Malik Neighbors has been down. I mean, weeks seven through nine, he's averaging under 10 fantasy points a game.
Starting point is 00:37:31 It's been the wide receiver, 43, 38, and 29. However, this is a get-right week for him. The pass rush for the Panthers doesn't exist. When they blitz, they get after the quarterback like so far and away worst in the league behind, second worst, that Daniel Jones is actually gonna have time in the pocket to find neighbors, connect with some throws that are a little bit
Starting point is 00:37:57 further down the field. Theo Johnson. Or Theo Johnson, but I do think. Or Wondale. I mean, Daniel Jones. Mike, he was your stream of the week. Yeah, he was streaming. I was about, I ended up training for Baker in our League of Record, but I lost Dak Prescott
Starting point is 00:38:13 and I have Gino on by and I'm looking at the waivers. I was going to start Daniel Jones this week. I think you can do it in this matchup against Carolina. So Chuba Hubbard, yes. If you took a shot on a wide receiver, it would be Xavier Leigh Gatt. Yep, it's still him. And would you play Xavier Leigh Gatt in this matchup, or would you go to the newly not suspended
Starting point is 00:38:31 Jameson Williams against Houston? Ooh. I imagine I'd be playing Jameson. I think it's really, really close. I mean, Jameson. I think I'm going Leigh Gatt. Jameson wasn't dealing with an injury, so you don't worry about reaggravation.
Starting point is 00:38:45 This was a suspension. But LeGate has been, I brought it up, he's basically been double digit fantasy points three of the last four weeks. Now those are on the backs of touchdowns, but at least he's being utilized and looked for in the red zone when he's a big body guy. Yeah, the last four games,
Starting point is 00:38:59 like Jamison Williams came out the gates, it was like, hey, this is one of the steals of the draft, which nine targets, 11 targets, but then it's three, two, four, and one. He's Jameson Williams, and so his calling card is the huge play, but if you're only getting three to four opportunities a week, your consistency of hitting that
Starting point is 00:39:21 is gonna be lower. Did you realize there are seven teams tied at two and seven for the number one pick right now? I did not. Wow, there are seven teams that are two and seven. That is gross. New England, Jacksonville, New Orleans, Carolina, Cleveland, Las Vegas, and the Giants.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Man, so who's going to really try to tank it first? Oh, I guess the Panthers are. They said they're starting Bryce Young, right? Yeah. Okay. Imagine being two and seven, tied with the worst record, but get the seventh pick. I mean, that's what the Giants are in right now.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Speaking of 2 and 7, New England. They take on the Chicago Bears in Chicago. Chicago's six-point home favorites. The over-under is just 38 and a half. 38 and a half. I think both defenses will be fine in this game. I really do. Although Deandre Swift, I think, will have be fine in this game. I really do. Although Deandre Swift I think will have a big time game.
Starting point is 00:40:07 But beyond that, I have no confidence starting Moore, Odunze, Allen, Komet. I dropped Allen in a certain league this week because there's just better options with upside. He had 10 targets, he still does nothing. The way this offense functions right now, it's kind of Swift and no one else. Yeah, Mike and I traded for DJ Moore in our champ, champ, champ dynasty league.
Starting point is 00:40:29 But he's on our bench right now. This is we see him as a dynasty play until maybe until Shane Waldron is gone or until Caleb Williams overcomes the offensive system and shows improvement. I don't think you can start the pass catchers there. and shows improvement. I don't think you can start the pass catchers there. On the other side, Ramandre Stevenson is such a funny, such a funny start because he's been putrid, terrible, but it doesn't really matter in the sense
Starting point is 00:40:55 that the opportunities are being given to him still. They aren't looking at his lack of production and saying, we've got to get Gibson more involved. We've got to find a different way, a different player. They're just continuing to give him the ball. The red zone work, he's scoring touchdowns. So in this matchup against the Bears, where it's very difficult to throw on them,
Starting point is 00:41:14 but they aren't the strongest rush defense, I think you've got a flex option here in Remandre. And then Mike brought up Hunter Henry earlier. His reception line's at four and a half. I'll take that. Yeah, it'll get you by. Yeah. You know, you got them underpants on. I'd take the over on that.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I actually think that's... Ooh, that's a high one, though. It is, but... He's been over it for three straight weeks. Yeah, I mean, his target... That's how you lose money, right there. His target packing order. I think, you know, you've got a guy who nine targets, six targets, eight targets in the
Starting point is 00:41:44 last three weeks. And they're gonna need him. A friend to a rookie quarterback, no question. And Drake May has had his, he's had his good plays, good production, he's averaging almost 50 yards rushing every game, which is almost double what Caleb Williams is doing. So he's making things happen,
Starting point is 00:42:02 they got to overtime last week, couldn't pull it out. But not my favorite game of the week to watch. No. No. Caleb Williams touchdowns have been coming at home. I don't know if that's just small samples that already leaves him. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So, no, no, that was awesome. I couldn't even, I couldn't even switch. I don't even get it. Is there a button for not even getting it? Buffalo, seven and two, the Colts four and five, the DraftKings Sportsbook line, Buffalo minus four. The over-under is a much more palatable, 48 points. So, Joe Flacco, at home, I think will bounce back.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I really do. I think this will be a bounce back performance for Joe Flacco, for Josh Downs, and for Jonathan Taylor. I don't think it's going to be easy, but I do think it's going to be more competitive than people think. And that's why, look, Buffalo record-wise, far superior than Indianapolis. It's a four-point gap. Where do you guys sit on this game and the options?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah, I was surprised that it was only four points, but I think it is giving the Colts a little bit more credence at home. Their offensive line has been good. They're number one in PFF's run blocking grade, and that is where the Bills, very similar to the Bears, the Bills have a pretty much great pass defense and you can run on them. They're 29th in schedule adjusted fantasy points given up to the running back position, 30th in total fantasy points given up to that position while being top 10 against all the others. And when you look at at home, Jonathan Taylor with this offensive line, Jonathan Taylor should eat big time this week. Jonathan Taylor, last time that he was at home against
Starting point is 00:43:46 Buffalo as a big underdog, he had 185 yards and four touchdowns. So I do think that stylistically there is a path here for the Colts to surprise and be okay in this game. Josh Allen, of course. James Cook, the RB 11 on the season 5 receptions last week. Ray Davis still being involved and making big plays from time to time. What on earth is happening at wide receiver because Keon Coleman might miss several weeks. They got some wrist problems. It's a wrist injury. Amari Cooper, questionable, limited on Wednesday, a wrist problem. Is Khalil Shakir a smash play in this one? I don't think you can ever call him that, but he's a good start.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Seven targets, 10 targets, seven targets, the last three weeks? He's the wide receiver, 23. PPR-wise, Shakir is certainly someone that you can start. I mean, if you're looking at different flex options, he is someone that I wouldn't, I mean if you're looking at different flex options, he is someone that I wouldn't, I see him as having an extremely high floor because they give him so many screens and he, you know, there's lots of players out there that have screens designed for them that
Starting point is 00:44:55 never go anywhere. It feels like every one of his screens picks up yards. They've just got that down to a science. I don't know if it's Josh Allen getting the ball out quicker or the blockers being schemed better, but they work. So I think at a full PPR league Khalil Shakir is like yeah I mean it's hard to put him on your bench. Would you flex him or would you flex Dalton Kincaid who had 10 targets last week the Colts are 29th against over the last six weeks 29th against tight ends 31st on the year season adjusted and then you have these wide receiver injuries.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I'd go Shakir. I'd go Shakir. You know, you look at Dalton Kincade, and even with all those targets, if you go from week four, it's his last six games, he's on pace for 121 targets. That is a number that's outrageously great for a tight end, and he's also scoring on average seven fantasy points. Wanna hear something crazy? What's that? Catch percentage. Oh Shakir's? For Shakir versus
Starting point is 00:45:50 Dalton Kinkade. 93% for Khalil Shakir. That is absurd. 59% for Dalton Kinkade. And it's... 3 yards per catch. 11.2 for Shakir.4 yeah so for Dalton Kincaid he is throwing what less accurate passes oh no no are you kidding me no dude don't let Josh where's Josh don't let Poopa Josh eat oatmeal anymore and what happened leaving again he said he had a round two. Oh my brother. Goodness gracious. It's a bowel time. Jeremy Owl, you have got to prepare yourself now, because it's moving its way down Deucer's Alley.
Starting point is 00:46:32 The Falcon has usually been the one struggling with the bowels. Now it's on to poop a Josh. And soon. No, I'm good, man. I'll hold this down. Bowel Borland? Yes, that's what I was going with.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It's going to be Bowel Borland. I'm sorry everybody, but Josh Better stay here an extra 30 minutes right at work today. Yeah for sure I don't know when his work is all the way to 1230. Yeah All right Michael Pittman is week to week right now And he didn't practice on a Wednesday because look Remember we are what two or three weeks
Starting point is 00:47:06 removed from Michael Pittman's going on the IR. And he didn't do that and he went right back to practice. It was a horrifically bad production game for Pittman last week. He was, he I think is the biggest question here. I would not start Michael Pittman. No? I think you know there there's an emergency situation where you first three games with Flacco over ten points
Starting point is 00:47:29 a game he had four targets that's not Pittman like the injuries are concerning it's it's a combination of the injuries what we saw from Flacco last week in the matchup this is not a great matchup they're fourth against wide receivers the Buffalo Bills are and so I don't I don't like the matchup. They're fourth against wide receivers, the Buffalo Bills are. And so I don't like the matchup for an injured player who's coming off of back-to-back one reception games. Yeah, I'm with you, and I'm worried about the fact you could get completely nothing out of it. One interesting fact about Josh Downs, who's receiving line is at 61.5 receiving
Starting point is 00:48:01 yards. I know you were let down by him last week. Buffalo plays the fourth highest percentage of too high safety. Downs is a 40% target per out run against too high safety. Yeah, so it's a good matchup for Downs at home with with Joe Flacco and a likelihood that they'll need to continue to throw to get back into this game. I mean on the season you got Downs with 82 yards, 69 yards, 66 yards, 109 yards, 60 yards. He is a reliable player that you can put in your lineup and should be started. The Denver Broncos are five and four.
Starting point is 00:48:34 They traveled to a daunting Arrowhead Stadium to play the Chiefs who are eight and 0. Drafking Sportsbook line, Kansas City minus seven and a half. The over-under is just 42 that implies only 17 points. Oh, man. I thought you were hitting the button point Oh, no. Oh, no. No, no, no, no No, I don't like seven and a half first. I don't like rookie quarterbacks on the road and arrowhead trying to, I tried to do this two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And, um. I'm hitting the button. For you? Yeah. Oh no. This is your almost upset of the week? All right, yeah. Oh, they're gonna get their butts kicked. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I really genuinely believe what I'm about to say. Okay. I think that the Broncos played decently well last week against the Baltimore Ravens. When I watched them, they made a lot of good plays, they moved the ball enough, they... I think they played well. They lost 10 to 41.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Sure. If you just look at the box score and be like, you got blown out 41 to 10, you'd think they stunk. They can't score enough against Kansas City. They can't do it. I agree. On the road. Javonti's not gonna do it?
Starting point is 00:49:48 This is a tough situation for a rookie. I think Bo Nix has been fantastic. On the Dynasty show this week, we had kind of a bold prediction rest of the season, and my bold prediction was I think Bo Nix is gonna be a top 10 fantasy quarterback the rest of this season. Starting. Starting next week.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah, I do. I think the bone next is a sit him down situation for this week. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm playing. But I'm not enthusiastic about the fantasy options for Denver. I mean, that's fine. You've got every right to call an upset. I think this game will be close. Closer than it's being projected.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Close would make sense. Kansas City's yet to cover the spread as a touchdown favorite this year. They're 0 and 4. 7 and 1 half is a lot. Yeah, it's divisional. But they're going to win by 24. The Ravens, that was the third time
Starting point is 00:50:37 they've hit 41 points on the season. They're outrageous on offense. Meanwhile, I think last week was the first time the Chiefs have, yeah, 30 points. That was the first time that they've gotten a 30. I can see this being a close game, but it's not gonna be because of Boeniks and the Denver Broncos offense.
Starting point is 00:50:52 It's gonna be because Denver Broncos defense is very good. They couldn't stop the Baltimore Ravens offense, who nobody can stop right now. I think they can stop Mahomes and this offense. You don't think that in a divisional match up here. Okay. No, because I think the Chiefs are figuring it out on offense, and I think we've seen that
Starting point is 00:51:09 over the last couple of weeks. Travis Kelsey, the effectiveness that he's had. Deandre Hopkins, eight for 86 and two. Those were basically non-factors for, I mean, Hopkins wasn't there, Kelsey wasn't utilized. I do think they're figuring it out, and I think Kareem Hunt makes the difference. Like, if you look back at this,
Starting point is 00:51:26 like two thirds of those guys weren't even playing football for this offense. It's a different offense. Mahomes has been good for two straight weeks. But it's gonna be a fun one to watch. I mean, the implied point total doesn't give you confidence to start a Bronco. No.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Sutton would be the only one. 52 point yardage line. You're taking a chance. Yes, you're definitely without a doubt, not starting. Javante Williams, you sit him down this week. Um, but Kareem hunt, Kareem hunt is in Hopkins is in Travis. Kelsey is in my homes is a good question. I wouldn't start him. I try not to, I try not to, but he might be fine.
Starting point is 00:52:00 He was okay last week, but last week again, awesome matchup against Tampa Bay. That's why you've got Brock Bertie is, Purdy as your start of the week this week. They're able to keep up pace, and I don't think that they're going to need Mahomes to do much in this one. I'll give you the final word, Mike. Anything on this matchup? No. I think we've covered everything.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Do you want to end it with a go Broncos? No. Okay. I don't. I'm just making sure. Do you want to end it with a go Chiefs? No. OK. I don't. I'm just making sure. Do you want to end it with a go Chiefs? You're the one who made the prediction. You made the prediction.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I just thought maybe you'd be rooting for your prediction. Apparently not. I don't have to. It's going to happen. I do. Thanks for making a close out really hard. I do think the Broncos frustrate the Chiefs offense this week. Somebody remember to come back to this and then one of us on either side is going to have to.
Starting point is 00:52:51 You think I'll forget? If you lose it yeah 100%. Yeah I think you'll forget if you lose it. Oh yeah. But if I win. Forget what? So maybe we'll forget. Alright we'll take a break we'll be back in a minute. Okay, we've gone to, we went to break. Is Josh back? Back on the toilet. Did he come back in between at all? No, not yet. Moving forward.
Starting point is 00:53:18 So as a producer. Hey! He's walking in right now. No, don't crawl. You're trying to crawl and pop up. We've got the camera on. No, don't crawl. You're trying to crawl and pop up. The camera is on. It's literally on you. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha much like as a producer, what would you say the most important part of your eight hour day is? Producing this podcast.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And how long is this podcast? About an hour. Okay. Yeah, it seems like an eternity. All right. The Atlanta Falcons at six and three. They are taking on the New Orleans Saints sitting at two and seven DraftKings Sportsbook line Atlanta minus three and a half, the over-under's 46.
Starting point is 00:54:07 It's not a huge line. It's the divisional game. It might speak a little bit to the Drake London injury. But it might also speak a little bit to the coaching bump. We talked about this, but the first game after a coach is removed from their services, usually that team does get a bump up. Their winning percentage goes up for the first game after a coach is removed from their services usually that team does get a bump up it their winning percentage goes up for the first week so
Starting point is 00:54:29 you're gonna get there's a home game for the Saints and you're gonna get some new juice and excitement and vigoration from both sides of the ball this one I could see being an upset who not me But I hope that... It's three and a half and divisional games like this, it just reminds me of the Colts Jacksonville years where when they played each other it was very, very close. But they don't have any wide receivers. Alvin Camaro is going to get work to the bone. So that's good for fantasy. His rushing receiving yards line combo. Goosh. 111 and a half.
Starting point is 00:55:06 111. What? Yeah. Heck yeah. Yeah. And I know what his. Try to guess how many opportunities he had last week in total.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Can't guess. I know the answer. Try to know the answer and say it out loud. 38 opportunities? That's crazy. For a player who started his career as he was undersized under sized, you know, he's always gonna be efficient he's never gonna be one of those guys that gets you know a ton of work because You know, I remember back in the day Sean Payton
Starting point is 00:55:34 It was like kind of leaked that someone somewhere to get a bar or something said Sean Payton was calling Alvin Camaro a little Soft or weak. Yeah, I don't remember years ago That is what happened. But now all of a sudden Cam Kamara is like, he can take, he's just, give him the beating. He'll take it and he'll keep going because you can give him the ball all the time. His work in the passing game is going to be outrageous. First of all, and we'll talk about this this episode, but the Falcons- Right now. Well, the Falcons are always giving up a lot of pass catching to opposing
Starting point is 00:56:04 running backs. The fact that the opposing running back is Alvin Kamara, who is getting a lot of pass catching because there are no wide receivers here. Do we need to ban him? From what? From our DraftKings lineups? That would be fun because he certainly will be in my lineup.
Starting point is 00:56:23 We're just gonna spend 8,600 or something, all of us. Yeah. Look, he's totally banned, guys. Oh. Totally banned. I would agree to it. I would have the fighting right for him. I agree that you two have banned Alvin Camero.
Starting point is 00:56:36 OK. He's not in your lineup? Oh, I don't have my line up yet. I haven't set mine yet, but he will be in my lineup. If we want to have a gentleman's agreement that he's not in there, that's fine. Sounds like we might have screwed ourselves, Jason. Sounds like you might have screwed us.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I didn't bring this idea up. You said you'd agree to it. No, I did, yeah, no, I would. But it wasn't my idea. Look, I think I threw a foe, no, he's in there. I threw just a quick line up to be in our tournament. Come here, he is in there. So what are we doing? Am I taking him out? We can have this discussion. We'll
Starting point is 00:57:09 offline this. Yes, Bijan is rushing line 75 and a half. You play him. Algier could get into the end zone in this one. The Saints 29th against the run. I do think Algier might be one of those touchdown guarantee type of weeks. Darnell Mooney started the week at wide receiver. Pitts not only had a bad week against the Saints in week four where he was goose, he had a bad week last week, one catch, and he's dealing with a hamstring injury.
Starting point is 00:57:36 You know, you talk about, he just feels like a risk this week. Yeah, he is risky. But if Drake is out, or I mean, Drake will be limited no matter what. So the match up the last six weeks, the Saints defense is 10th against Fantasy tight ends. So I mean, it's just like who, what wave or wire guy, like are you doing our, are you putting the underpants on
Starting point is 00:58:02 over Kyle Pitts? Not if Pitts was active, no I wouldn't. I'd just try to play Pitts. I'm just a little nervous about what you're gonna get. I get that. And what about? Like Hawkinson, I'd play over him. Yeah, and Hunter Henry?
Starting point is 00:58:14 I'd play Hunter Henry over Kyle Pitts this week. I'd be very fine doing that. I think you'd protect yourself against the hamstring injury. See what happens on Thursday, Friday as well, practice report wise. So taste some hill maybe maybe you could do it yeah I was the tied in five last week if you what we don't know is how much does the new coach love taste some hill like does he
Starting point is 00:58:38 have just an unstoppable unconditional love for taste some hill like Dennis Allen and they Payton. Yeah, everyone does. If you meet him, the cologne he wears. I cannot imagine. The pheromones are unstoppable. The pheromones, yeah. I can't imagine that just because the head coach
Starting point is 00:58:56 changes here that they would stop using Taysom the way that they have. Five targets, five agents on the ground. That's pretty good. Now, the pronunciation of the interim coach here, Kyle, is it Darren Rizzi? Can we get an answer, Kyle? The Rizzler.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah, that's what it's saying. In this world of skibbity-toilet-ohio-riz, and you have a coach who's got the Riz? I mean that's a pretty good sign for those Ains. To be fair, Dennis Allen had the least Riz. Oh yeah. Sometimes you gotta pop it out. You're like, I had.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Not it, just pop out. Yeah, that's the Andy Holloway. It is the real problem with this sentence. You just pop off, you're not popping it't you know, you're not popping it out Oh, yeah, you're going to jail. Look you that I had thought of that Camara story forever and it's like So if it was Sean Payton being a bit of a mentor for Dennis Allen How are we surprised that he's mad at running backs and calling him soft? Well, I mean to be fair Sean Payton sucks and it's Alan sucks and their defensive coordinator to be fair
Starting point is 01:00:06 So what was his name? Greg Greg Williams? Oh, oh, yeah, dude. Hey, guess what? He sucks Peyton is a good coach. I stand by that You've always been very anti Sean pay he's a sucky person I He might be an okay coach. Those two things are never, they never have to be connected. No, no they don't. You think Bill Belichick's a good dude?
Starting point is 01:00:31 I think Bill Belichick's a good coach. Yes, he's a good coach. He's a terrible dude. Maybe. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. He might be funny. Very few people that are just doing one thing and one thing only, are very good people.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Wow, that's very philosophically deep and powerful. This is impressive knowledge you have. It's just hard to detour. Like the best of the best. They have a, I mean, you watched the Jordan documentary? Okay, Andy. Jordan's a butthole. Jay, here you, Andy Holloway.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Andy Reid's a bad person. Andy Reid is very focused on football. I didn't say absolutely, I said very rarely. Sometimes, the best of the best, but Reid's pretty cool. Mike Tomlin, bad person. Bundle Ruski. Bundle Ruski do. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:01:20 All right, maybe I should be less exhaustive in my, kind of version. Yeah, you could just cut it off at Sean Payton Could we just leave it at Sean Payton's thoughts? Yeah, there you go I don't think so, but yeah You like him? I do Are you big Payton?
Starting point is 01:01:35 I'm big Payton I think he's got a massive ego, but what successful coach doesn't? That's almost what I literally just said You just made the same argument. You said that ego's not necessarily equal to bad person. Not a good trait. I love this conversation. The nuance, the nuance here.
Starting point is 01:01:56 All right. Nuance is good. Sure. Sure. San Francisco, four and four. Tampa Bay, four and five. We have. Wow, San Francisco's favored by six on the road
Starting point is 01:02:08 in Tampa Bay. That is a little bit surprising to me. I agree. Oh, Andy is lying. Nah, nah, nah, nah. We okay? All right. You guys talk about the game.
Starting point is 01:02:18 This podcast is out of control. All right, DraftKings Sportsbook Line, San Francisco favorite. Quick check over to Deuce's alley. Okay, all three? They're all there. All right. The 49Kings Sportsbook Line, San Francisco favorite. Quick check over to Deuce's alley. Okay, all three? They're all there. All right. The 49ers are favored by six, the over-under is 50 and a half. This is juicy.
Starting point is 01:02:31 We want in on this game. This one is, this is probably the most fun matchup of the week. Do you feel a little bit like Baker Mayfield with how injured his offense is, is just hanging on for dear life? Like he's just. He's waiting to push the clock back from midnight. He's like, you know what I mean? Cause you're waiting for a pumpkin to happen,
Starting point is 01:02:51 that clock strikes midnight. And he goes back to old Baker. But he's doing everything in his power. I mean, he looked so good in such difficult situations last week against Kansas City. Obviously the San Francisco 49ers, they are a good defense, but I agree with what you were saying earlier, Andy, that they're not the team of last year or the last several years that have just been
Starting point is 01:03:13 unstoppable on both sides of the ball. This is a above average team. Now the sportsbook line being minus six on the road, maybe I'm just wrong and coming off the buy, the Niners are ready to just go out there and dominate, but the Buccaneers have showed so much fight that that line surprises me. I mean, I think San Francisco will play very well in this game.
Starting point is 01:03:36 It's 28-22 in the implied point total. It's just, can we be excited for fantasy purposes? You've got Rashad White, kind of a Resurgent Rashad white double digit fantasy points. What do you do with Rashad white here though of like it was Six opportunities against the Chiefs. It was 12 the week before mean Like like his opportunities aren't changing is what I'm getting out of those first five weeks before his injury. He's on pace, but he's just producing more. So are you buying into
Starting point is 01:04:09 the uptick in production or like, so are you starting? He's startable, but it's, you know, it's not what he was last year. Because, because Bucky Irving is a very, very good player, still limited with the toe injury, going to be that way every week. He's a better runner, but Rashad White has found a way to even score on the ground in recent weeks. He has looked better on the ground. I mean, maybe this is better for him.
Starting point is 01:04:34 4.8 and 6.3 a carry on the... I mean, they're all unbelievable. Their offensive line is also, I played much better than last season. I think that's a part of both Bucky Irving and Rashad White's success. If Sterling Shepard is dealing with a hamstring and hip and Jalen McMillan dealing with a hamstring,
Starting point is 01:04:52 and then you've got Trey Palmer and Rakeem Jarrett, if you have to pick one in a game with a nice over-under, I would play McMillan. That is who I would play if they were active. I've thought a lot about this this week. I thought you were saying if McMillan and Shepard are out. No, no, no, I was saying if they're all there, I would play McMillan.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah, 100%. I'm not gonna chase the very last drive of Serling Shepard just because the injuries have been there and I don't believe he falls where you'd want him to in the pecking order with everybody healthy. Yeah, nor does he fall where you want him on explosive athlete at this stage in his career. So I would agree if they're all out there, McMillan would be the one in.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I don't know that McMillan's going to play. He didn't practice Wednesday. It's only a Wednesday, but with a hamstring injury that already kept him out of a game, that's usually a multi-week injury. K. Doughton obviously is in everyone's lineup. Fantastic start with all these, you all these injuries we didn't even bring up, obviously Mike Evans and Chris Godwin not playing, Kate Otten is absolute must start material. You'll just have eight plus targets in this game. Do we know if McMillan is out formally already? Can we look into that?
Starting point is 01:06:00 No, I don't think so. He's not listed as out. We can double check it, but he is on sleeper,'s not listed as out. We can double check it. But he is on sleeper. He's listed as questionable. OK. I saw some people talking about him being out. He's trending to be out.
Starting point is 01:06:15 With a late week hamstring injury ruled, it doesn't make it to the game. It doesn't practice on Wednesday. I would say it's longer odds. Debo and John Jennings are both in if they play. If they don't play. He's practicing today, Kyle? Yeah, I was just going to say it's longer odds. Debo and John Jennings are both in if they play. If they don't play. Wait, he's practicing today, Kyle? Yeah, I was just gonna say it.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Oh, man. So it's the opposite of out. Jalen McMillan, Sterling Shepard, and Greg Gaines all practiced. We don't know in what. Take back what I said. Yeah, I kinda like McMillan this week. Today was a walkthrough for what it's worth.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Okay. So this is not, you know, they want him to be part of this game, TBD on the health. tomorrow's practice will be everything On the other side it Brock Purdy Andy started the week. I'm in on that and then our fantasy football king Should be back Christian McCaffrey whose DK touch no way our minus 215.
Starting point is 01:07:08 What? Christian McAfree's, anytime touchdown odds on DK is a minus 215, that basically just, if you're not sure what that means, that means the flat out expectation is that he's gonna, that's 68% odds that he will score a touchdown in this first game that is Absurd and correct right? Gotta bet it one way. I think he's gonna get a touch on I I still nervous. I'm not nervous. I'm not nervous at all Only cowards are nervous
Starting point is 01:07:43 Christian McCaffrey will 100% be in every single lineup for everyone that drafted him. I think he should be. How were you when you had to do the finger prick for the blood test? Would you say cowardly? I would say I was a lion. A cowardly lion, yes.
Starting point is 01:07:58 I was, oh my goodness. I think you're a lion. I couldn't even believe how big a baby I was, knowing how big a baby I am. People on this podcast have no idea what we're talking about. So listen, we all started having this conversation in the office about what blood type we are. Some people knew what it was. Some people said their parents knew what it was, and they started texting their parents. And we found a pack of 10 blood tests on Amazon, and the whole office was testing for our blood type.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Mike and I are A positive. They've got this little spring loaded lancet you just put up by your finger, push a button and it just snaps and then you'll bleed a drop of blood. Or in the case of Jeremy and I, bleed everywhere. No, this thing was a little sword. James Bond could kill a man with that Oh for sure, but he's very talented at that Anyways, what was the oh, yeah, so it I mean I know I'm a baby
Starting point is 01:08:52 I'm using the small Lancet. I couldn't get myself to push a button. I was walking around trying to hype myself up I got a say Only cowers get nervous. Yeah, that's right So to play Christian McCaffrey, Look it's gonna be exciting. It's gonna be exciting to see him back out there and you want to see him get through the game. You want to see him you know reach the end of this matchup with Tampa Bay. Be healthy and go into the next week knowing what the 49ers have and you know whether this negatively impacts George Kittle long term that'll be interesting to see.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Just because you've had to lean on him so much, like he's been faring away the number one tight end, maybe that softens? It should. Touchdowns is certainly, that's an issue. George Kittle has six on the year already. I don't think this has a negative impact on it. Christian McCaffrey coming back,
Starting point is 01:09:43 because we've seen Christian McCaffrey with When there is one of the wide receivers Deebo or Brandon IU right with Christian McCaffrey active We've seen enough games of that and Kittle's been awesome. Well, but not the number one tight end It's touchdowns like he's number one overall George Kittle touchdowns throughout his his career And once he became a star five five two six eleven six And he's currently on six like he is he's running really hot and Jordan Mason for who's one of the league leaders in rushing has three rushing touchdowns I guess my only point is gonna get one a week while he is the number
Starting point is 01:10:17 one I don't think he's being propped up by six touchdowns that's not an outrageous number he's on pace for a hundred receptions and and 1221 yards I mean those are facts if you're him and hon about it yeah but it's I guess I'm just saying I don't think I don't believe at all that George Kittle will go down to become the tight end six while you're missing brain and I he's still a top five guy I'm saying like rest of the way yeah obviously by the end of the year he'll be there cuz he already is established alright let's jump into the parlay part a to close out today's show
Starting point is 01:10:55 alright yeah okay alright looking good Jason are you too much like a king over there mmm mmm mmm you know what Oh, you too, Mike. You look like a king over there. Mm. Mm-mm. Ah. Ah. You know what? King of the castle. You're a king because you went with a running back over on receptions.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah. And I'm a king. I went with a running back over on receptions. Last week, we both took Devon Achan. I said over three and a half receptions. Actually, if you went on those DK Sportsbook app, it was over four and a half. Don't matter, he had eight.
Starting point is 01:11:28 He had eight. And Barkley over two and a half, he had three. So you did it. So what are you doing? Well this week? Yeah. Well I'm taking running back over receptions, baby. I'm taking, Alvin Kamara is over four and a half receptions.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I can't believe it's only in four and a half. Against Atlanta, we talked about it, 38 opportunities this last week. The last six games, here's his reception count. 765666, Mark of the Beast. He only needs five to cover this line. He has no Chris Olave, Super Camario. I think we'll cover that line. I'm going James Cook over two and a half receptions against the Colts. Last two weeks, it's been three and five receptions. And the pace should be running pretty quick here
Starting point is 01:12:12 with Buffalo at 26 points. Team implied total, going with James Cook. Over two and a half receptions. Andy, who's your over running back reception total? I don't just do the same things that you guys do. I know. I know, like work grounds. Well look I tried to take Tyreek Hill over 72 yards but somebody with a crown in this group, not me, talked me out of it. Not gonna name names. Aaron Jones
Starting point is 01:12:36 60 plus rushing yards against Jacksonville this week he averages 71 and this is a team that gave up 159 to Barkley 127 to Jacobs 60 seems like a low bar for Aaron Jones it does so we'll see that was fantasy forecast presented by DraftKings pick six download the new DraftKings pick six app now and use the code ballers that's code ballers for new customers to play five dollars and get fifty dollars and pick six credits that'll do it for today's show thank goodness we'll be back tomorrow with more matchups, the fantasy face off for two of us.
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