Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Starts of the Week + Week 4 Breakdown, Big Trade! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/25

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 25, 2025. It’s football time! Week 4 matchup previews, injury updates, and more on today’s show. Plus, Starts of the Week from Andy, Mike, and Jason. Set your lineups... for Week 4 fantasy football! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(06:50) NFL News(10:05) Starts of the Week(11:55) QB Starts of the Week(14:45) RB Starts of the Week(18:45) WR Starts of the Week(22:20) TE Starts of the Week(26:05) Fantasy Forecast(27:20) Vikings at Steelers(33:20) Commanders at Falcons(36:45) Saints at Bills(42:40) Browns at Lions(50:05) Panthers at Patriots(56:30) Chargers at Giants(01:02:45) Eagles at BuccaneersConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discor Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. It's football time Yes Yes it is Good luck to you
Starting point is 00:00:36 And Marv Thursday September 25th The Day of the Marvin Harrison Redemption Tour Beginning tonight Probably not Actually almost certain
Starting point is 00:00:58 Almost certainly not, but we do have football tonight. Andy Mike and Jason, the Fantasy Footballers podcast, back with you. Thank you for following the show, listening to the show, hanging out with us all year long. We are heading into week four Cardinals at home tonight against the sea chickens. Oh, got them. Got them. You're not a hawk, you're a chicken. I am, you know, I'm a really big cardinal fan.
Starting point is 00:01:26 You guys know this. I love the Cardinals. Yeah, and that's why you are all. Your fantasy team is all in. So yesterday we, I briefly said I was going to offer Zay Flowers from Marvin Harrison on the show. I think I called Marvin Harrison a baby buy. Yes, yes, you did. Because he's not a full on go get him at any cost.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I mean, I saw a lot of people taking the trade advice show and going out there and making moves. I saw tons of players like Gentie, Jacobs, those guys getting acquired. There was a surprising amount of Drake London for Ashton. and Ginty trades, including from our own Kyle the Borgogan, who, as a Falcons fan, went out and traded Drake Lennon and got Ash and Jinty. Interesting. Like that seems to be like a compatible trade right now because they're both, you know, top 12 picks that are disappointing people and, you know, you might need a running back, might need a
Starting point is 00:02:14 wide receiver. So that's happening a lot. But I said on the show, I just offered Mike. I offered him Marvin Harrison. Or sorry, I offered him Zay Flowers for Marvin Harrison. Mm-hmm. And he thought a lot about it. Oh, so much thinking.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And then he didn't do it. And then I offered him Justin Fields and Zayflowers for Marvin Harrison. Yeah, you know I'm a sucker for Justin Fields. And I've got Marvin Harrison now, baby. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hardy lights? Yeah, that's a, he's really willing this and doing.
Starting point is 00:02:48 This is, the best part about this is you now in the League of Record have the Kyler Marv stack. It couldn't be worse. And no one has talked more crap about how bad they are, about how bad this offense is, about how Kyler doesn't have it isn't good. And now you are relying upon them. Can I make a little comparison of where I'm out right now? Yes, please. If I booked a wedding venue and I invited the guests and I had people fly in and I have every, I got the DJ on retainer and everything's booked.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And it starts to rain, I'm going to pretend I like the rain. I'm going to pretend everything's going to be just fine. I'm going to pretend it's going to be the best wedding of all time. That's the current mental state. Would I pass a drug test? Probably not. But Marvin Harrison is on the roster. We don't need no meows.
Starting point is 00:03:41 We don't need no cats. Look, Mike, you said it before the show. After last week's public embarrassment of Marvin Harrison, what better time to publicly embarrass him? Embarrass him again. Arizona better go
Starting point is 00:03:57 to him early and easy. Right. Yeah. First play. Little screen, little slant. Something easy. Make sure he catches it. Yes. Let's get the ball moving. Now, if he drops that pass, Oh. That is just it's over. He might as well as head to the locker room.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You guys saw the, the screenshot that appears he's looking upwards while he's catching the football? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he watching himself on the Jumbotron try to catch a football? He's like, yeah, look how cool this is. I, he just, he missed, clearly he missed the ball. So the trade happened. Yep. Mike's a sucker for Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:04:29 We know that. And I'm a sucker for pain. So we'll just buy in one more time. And then final note, you are, we're playing. Yeah, we're playing each other. So with the heads up, I gave you Marv. So if Marv does the 102 tonight, it will be against me. You also wouldn't have been playing Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:04:47 You would have been playing Justin Fields. Yeah. So you opted into Kyler and Marv tonight, and I want the people at home to watch. They watch Jason win a Monday night football match. Now watch tonight. knowing that every catch that Marvin makes hurts Mike. It's going to be fascinating. I also will be very happy.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I need him to be good. You guys are still Marv fans. We've got a huge show today. We have starts of the week. We've got a ton of matchups to get into. It's a big week for fantasy, right? We've got three weeks of data. So the tools, they've been activated, right?
Starting point is 00:05:23 The streamfinder tool, the strength of schedule tool, an opportunity to get into all of the footclan tools and resources. We got rest of season rankings launching soon. Today, question mark? No, today. Today. Yeah. You could have gone with soon.
Starting point is 00:05:39 No, no, no. I want to force our hand. So we will have rest of season rankings up today. And we have never had those before. Correct. So for the first time ever, rest of season rankings should be helpful for evaluating trades. Obviously, they got Marvin number one. Rest of season.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Very easy. unbiased opinion there. All right, let's jump into the news. And before we do that, I want to remind you, join thefoot.com for all of those tools, including the rest of season rankings, the ultimate dashboard, the extra episodes, the community, the waiver wire tool. Yeah, we're piling them up. At this point, I think we're going to take a few things away.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Well, yeah, we got to balance. Right? You prune the bush, so it can grow more beautiful. Can we do the, like, the Disney vault thing? Oh, that's a good idea. When they decided that this would be a cool idea in the 90s, just like, we'll just release a movie for a couple minutes. You know that movie you like?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Can't get it. Now you want it. You can have it. I guess they knew the power of scarcity, which they've oppositeed it with Star Wars movies now. There's no scarcity. Well, maybe we do vault. Go to footclan.com before it disappears.
Starting point is 00:06:51 News and notes from Around the League, Presented by Progressive Insurance. Zach Charbonnet is officially listed as questionable, but he has three full practices this week. Zach, come on. It's a short week, man, just rest up. Oh, you'd like another kin bone walker evening? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Cardinals Devons is pretty good. You guys both have Seattle win in the game? I do, yeah. Yeah. And the line is kind of a toss-up because it's gone back and forth. Cardinals started favored right now at Seattle by like one or something like. Yep. Last I saw was Seattle one and a half. Okay. It should be interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It might be a bit of a defensive game. Could be. Could be. Do you expect Charbonate to play since he practiced all week? I do. Yeah, I do too. Jacori Kroski Merritt had missed Wednesday's practice. It was listed as precautionary and that he should be back out there. Devante Adams also didn't practice on Wednesday. Hamstring. You don't like hearing older receivers with hamstring issues,
Starting point is 00:07:49 but Sean McVeigh says it's not going to affect his availability. Did you have some thoughts? Well, I'll have thoughts in our next segment for sure. Our next segment. Yeah. Oh, okay. Isaiah likely limited in Wednesday's walkthrough. Still don't know if Isaiah likely is going to be back out there.
Starting point is 00:08:07 You know, there have been people that have Mark Andrews and maybe they got Brent and Strange on the bench. If you can swap Brent and Strange for Isaiah likely, put them on your roster, that's fine. I think try to figure out who's going to be the guy there, big week for Andrews last week. Xavier worthy, full practice on Wednesday. but I don't know what the snaps are going to look like for worthy. Do you have confidence in him? I would not. I don't think there's any way that you can start him with the report
Starting point is 00:08:32 that he's going to be back on a limited basis wearing a harness. Like you've got to see what it looks like first. I can't fathom he gets enough touches. He might help the Chiefs, but not necessarily help your fantasy team. DeAndre Swift, Cole Commet, limited on Wednesday. Colston Loveland, not practicing. He has dealt with injury issues so far. Maybe. Ricky Pearsall, Juan Jennings, also didn't practice. Pierce saw with the knee. He says it's feeling
Starting point is 00:09:03 good. I actually don't know when I hurt my knee. A little soreness, not concerned. But it's the 49ers. Anybody that shows up on the practice report for the 49ers, it's from zero to 100 games out that they're going to miss. So Brock Purdy, Mack Jones, both limited on Wednesday. I think it'll be Purdy this week. Do you guys have opinions on? That's where I lean to. Yeah, I believe Purdy will be there. And if he is out there, he's been a decent fantasy option. You know, like I lost DAC, basically.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's how I feel like DAC had the same injury that CD Lamb had with CD out. I'm like, especially in a tough matchup, I can't imagine playing him. But Brock is on my radar. Yeah. No, it makes sense. I almost signed him this morning in one of our leagues. All right, that was News and Note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance, quote today at progressive.com.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers, not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy, terms, limits, and conditions. All right, time to jump in. Starts of the week. Presented by Paramount Plus.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Starts of the week for week number four at the quarterback position. This is the start of the week. Jordan Love Jordan Love It better be playing Dallas
Starting point is 00:10:26 The Cowboys who They only put eight guys out on defense every week And we haven't seen Look it was disappointing last week I thought Jordan Love would be fine against Cleveland I thought they would get it done Cleveland is making sure no one is fine against them
Starting point is 00:10:41 So that was a backfire But you know The previous two weeks before last week's debacle for the Packers Leading the NFL in A-DOT depth of target, throwing it down the field. I had kind of made some comments. I didn't make an official guarantee, but I had said that Matthew Golden was going to score last week. I stand by it because Matthew Golden caught
Starting point is 00:11:04 a pass up the sideline. There was no safety or defensive back ahead of him, and then he ran straight out of bounds. The Packers sideline, he ran to the Packers side. And when he went out of bounds, you see like five players who's you know hands go to their helmet like what did you just do he was running at an angle it was like they tilted the field to the right and he kept running rolled out but the crazy thing was like his his momentum very well might have taken him out of bounds he might not have been able he might not have been able to actually stay in bounds there maybe but he did not try I mean didn't remotely like lean at all it was just like hey I got I got a nice catch let me
Starting point is 00:11:48 walk right out of bounds really easily. Is he a meow-y? No, not yet. Not yet. Yeah, but Jordan Love is my start of the week and the Cowboys pass defense. We know how dukey they are. Oh, they're dead last. Let's hope he does it early. Dead last in yards per attempt allowed.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Dead last in completion percentage over expectation. Dead last in explosive pass play rate. They put the, well, yeah, we'll just call them bad. They put the Duke and Duke. Yeah, look, I was going to say, they put the something in Dallas. But here we go. Yeah. All right. I'm going to go with... Oh, but people think I hate Dallas, by the way. I just saw this.
Starting point is 00:12:26 People think I'm like personal vendetta. I actually kind of like Dallas. I'd like them to win. This is called objective analysis. Have you watched your team? Right. Yeah. Your defense is... You shouldn't like that. Terrible. All right. Um, so my start of the week this week, Caleb Williams... Oh, boy. Who would have thought? The Raiders. I know. Who would have thought, right? Caleb Williams? he has not had a great beginning to his career, but from a fantasy football perspective,
Starting point is 00:12:53 he's been very good. He's actually the quarterback three right now on the season. And his fantasy game, it's taken another leap this year thanks to his scrambling. The only quarterbacks with more fantasy points off of scrambles. So far this season, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and Jalen Hertz. Nine scrambles for 79 yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And the defensive matchup is great. I love picking games that are in a dome. Thank you. the weather will be fine. And the past defense of the Raiders, 28th and expected pass points, 25th and passing yards allowed, 25th and fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks. You know, he is a guy that I was sad to see, it was like a pump fake for me when Dak went down.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I looked at Sleeper, and he was one of the highest trending quarterbacks, like additions. And I was like, I don't know how he made that list because he's rostered almost everywhere, but I was like, oh, I thought he was on the way. I was like, yeah, baby. He's not. But I would start him if I had him. Mike, who do you got? I'm going with Bo Nix against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Starting point is 00:13:55 The Bengals are not a very good team. Right now, and it's not been great, honestly, for Bo Nicks. The QB 21 through three weeks, he's averaging under 200 passing yards a game. However, this week, we all have them ranked in the top 10. The Broncos have a 26 point implied team total. That's the fourth highest for this week. The rushing floor still has been there for two of the three weeks. He's averaging six attempts and 24 yards per game.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And since he has allowed the six most completions to opposing quarterbacks, they can't get pressure on Bo. He just missed on three deep shots last week. I mean, he hits on one of those. The concern for Bo Nix has gone out the window. And I'm going to double up here because this is pretty rare for, I think, any of us to ever do on the show. my quarterback and my running back start of the week
Starting point is 00:14:45 are from the same exact team. So I was going to throw it out. It's J.K. Dobbins, who through three weeks has been the running back 13, 15, and 12 with a touchdown in each game. We saw a little more consolidation from the Broncos. Like Badee kind of got the boot last week and it actually didn't really turn into an uptick for R.J. Harvey
Starting point is 00:15:06 turned into an uptick for J.K. Dobbins, who... He's looked really good. He has looked good. And, I mean, while he's looking good, you've got to stay on this train. Bengals defense saw it. They were manhandled by Jordan Mason and the matchup of the Denver O line, third and yards before contact. Since then he's defense, 27th and yards before contact allowed. It is a match made in heaven.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I really like the Broncos this week. All right. Amarine Hampton is my running back start of the week against the Giants. It was a matter of time and circumstance, right? We did have a very unfortunate injury. Nobody wants to see that happen. Hampton took advantage of the increased opportunities. And here we are.
Starting point is 00:15:50 We're three weeks into the season, and it's Amari and Hampton's backfield from here on out. I know we had somebody in one of our leagues and make a trade, I think, a week or two ago. They got Amarion Hampton plus something for Chase Brown at the time. And you look at the way that that has turned. Fantasy football is. cruel. Yeah, and the Giants, look, for all of their
Starting point is 00:16:12 strengths on the defensive side so far, the run defense has been very exploitable. Second most rushing yards allowed, second most yards after contact, which is a Hampton special, second highest rush success rate on man and gap scheme plays, which is a Greg Roman special. So, look, it's a really good matchup for Hampton. I think it's going to be start them this week. It's going to be start them here on out. Yeah, start them every week, but it's a match match up for sure. A quick little... Smash up. Just a quick little nugget here
Starting point is 00:16:40 for Dynasty bros out there. If you hadn't seen, there was a report that Kamani Vidal is actually the next man up for the Chargers. So like... That's encouraging for Hampton. So I know.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah, this was not a... This was nothing against Hampton. It's just... You want to stash backup running backs and Vidal according to this report that Jim Harbaugh is when he said it. Sassoon! So. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:07 He's back. Yeah. The locks will be washed. My starting running back, Chuba Hubbard, going to play against the New England Patriots. He's running back 13 on the season. He's averaging 19 opportunities a game. He is, you know, you forget that he's one of the elites when it comes to volume, workload. He's one of eight running backs with 40 plus rush attempts and 10 receptions so far this season.
Starting point is 00:17:29 He's on pace for 79 receptions. And right now, the matchup against New England, they are giving up quite a lot of, of right now fourth most running back receiving yards. So even though that's not like his exact specialty, he is being used in that way. Tett is a little banged up. I mean, Hubbard. Who would you rather throw to, Chuba Hubbard or Xavier Legate?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Oh, I mean, exactly. That's why Chuba is getting four or five targets in this game. So I think he's someone that should be in your lineup. Does he still feel extremely disrespected in the world of fantasy football? Is that going to be? He is still disrespected by me in my mind and heart. I still this is why I got to like force him to be a start of the week I I got into the dock before you I was strongly considering putting Chuba in and I
Starting point is 00:18:16 do I think he's a great play I do have a little bit of pause that of the way that Rico has been used lately in or you talked about the goal line the the opportunities in the last game I think we're all we're all Rico in the in the yes in the five but it's like those they did come later in the blowout but just overall Rico. I don't know. He's just, I have some pause with with Chuba long term. But for this week, I'm with it as a start of the week. All right. Wide receiver, Mike? Wide receiver. I got Jacoby Myers. I know Trey Tucker is the hotness and everything, but I'm going with Jacoby. I kind of like that. I'm going against the Chicago Bears. He's still their number one guy. Weeks
Starting point is 00:18:59 one and two, he was getting absolutely peppered with targets. And then you can't get with targets when your teammate is taking the ball to the house. One touch scores? Exactly. So like last week it was only four targets. He still managed to get 63 receiving yards and he is there's only five wide receivers who have hit 60 or more receiving yards in each of the first three games. Puka
Starting point is 00:19:23 JSN, Keenan Kuge, and Jacoby Myers. I think you got to go right back to the fantasy vegetables. He'll be good for you team. I think that's a super smart play because everyone was kind of buying into the target. totals and you're going to have outlier weeks. You're going to have down weeks. But we like Gino Smith this week and I like that one. All right, my tandem. I'm putting Jordan Love with Matthew Golden starting him. Matthew Golden started the week. He's in my lineup and he's going to play football this weekend. He, dude, he's going to score this weekend.
Starting point is 00:19:58 If it doesn't, he's going to score. Wait, is that a touchdown guarantee? Yeah, he needed it. That would have led him up the field and not out of bounds if I had just. just giving him the touchdown guarantee. So Matthew Golden, into the end zone, maybe twice. With the snap counts and the route participation this week, if he doesn't do something, it will be highly concerning. It will be, this has to be the game. The only reason something wouldn't happen for Matthew Golden this week
Starting point is 00:20:22 is because you're expecting it to happen. That's how it feels for fantasy football. I saw somebody say that the other day. Look, 71% route participation last week, up from 65, up from 44. You don't have Jaden Reed. We think Tucker Craft is healthy. He'll be involved. But Matthew Golden, I think it was seven opportunities in a game
Starting point is 00:20:42 where their offense barely did anything last week. The Cowboys are giving up so many yards. Matthew Golden will get behind this defense. I'm all about it this week. Sure. I'll give you the touchdown guarantee for Matthew Golden officially. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I think he's going to get two now. My wide receiver start of the week. Plus 1,700 for two. Yes. Yeah, because that's ludicrous. I might have just played with that. Invested.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, an investment. Devante Adams, obviously him popping up with the hamstring isn't something I love to see, but it was a Wednesday. McVeigh said he's not concerned. It's just, hopefully just one of those veteran day of rests. He's been so good, guys.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He has. His utilization is otherworldly. And what he is doing right now, So the last nine years, Devante Adams has averaged 1213 yards and 11 touchdowns. Through three weeks, he is on pace for 1,207 yards and 11 touchdowns. He's so good. He's just, Devante Adams is just being Devante Adams. Stafford can absolutely support him.
Starting point is 00:21:53 We saw this with Cooper Cup and Puka together. He's just a staple of consistencies. The wide receiver 11 right now. And the Rams Colts game, highest over under of the week, 49. a half. The Rams are three and a half point home favorites. You know, Devante Adams shouldn't be a question mark anymore. There's a world, right?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Where we have L.A. versus L.A. in the Super Bowl this year. Like both of those teams sure. Are definitely on the short list of potential candidates to get there. That'd be pretty cool. At the tight end position, I'm going with T.J. Hawkinson. Okay. Hoculies versus
Starting point is 00:22:27 Pittsburgh. People need to hear this. In Ireland, bonjour, everyone. Jordan Addison is back Is this because of the quarterback upgrade? It might have something to do with it and like Addison's back so people might be like, I don't want to play Hokulees. No, I'm in
Starting point is 00:22:44 on him, the 20% target share that he's had through three games. It's number six among tight ends in the league right now. We saw Hunter Henry destroy this Pittsburgh Steelers defense just recently and narrative street guys. The Minnesota
Starting point is 00:23:01 of Vikings are just a tiny plane ride away from their home land. Scandinavia. Oh, the Vikings. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So clearly. They're more comfortable.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yes. They're like, Hey, we're back. I think somebody got mad at me saying that they were going on the road two weeks in a row because it was like they're going overseas. Oh. I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:25 that seems to count to me. Yeah. I mean, it's a super count. It should say they're going on the road and the seas. I don't think they're going on the seas. You don't think they're taking a boat? The Vikings aren't taking a boat.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Correct. I know. It's when you say on the road, it implies that I could drive there. Okay. Oh, that's a good counterpoint. You just talked about Hunter Henry. He is my start of the week this week. It's been really interesting to see the New England Patriots offense
Starting point is 00:23:52 and who are the most dependable past catchers. What if I told you Hunter Henry led the team in targets per game, target share and receiving yards per game? I mean, through three weeks, he's always been capable. Sometimes tight-ins aren't necessary. Right now, he feels extremely necessary. Stefan Diggs is good enough to run seven yards and turn around. Kishon Booty seems like the next best player, but Demerio Douglas not involved,
Starting point is 00:24:17 Kyle Williams not involved. It's been Hunter Henry. Get Kyle Williams on the field. And let's remember, we haven't seen a lot of Drake May, right? He's going to pick his favorites. He feels very comfortable targeting Hunter Henry. It's Carolina, eighth most fancy points given up to 10. tight in. So far, I think you just stay
Starting point is 00:24:33 with Hunter Henry. He's, you know, better than Zach Hertz this week. To me, he's better than Kyle Pitts this week. To me, he's the start of the week. Speaking of necessary, Ferg Daddy, he is currently still living. He will, he will, that can't
Starting point is 00:24:49 continue for much longer because he's finally rested. He's got to be hurt to sleep. And Ferg Daddy is. Ferg Daddy is Jake Ferguson. Got it. Jake Ferguson tied in for the, Dallas Cowboys, who will need to throw the ball a lot and do not have C.D. Lamb through three weeks. He has the most total receptions of any tight end to start a season since 2016.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Here are the players in the NFL with more receptions than Ferg Daddy. Pooka Nakua. End of list. That is it. That's why. That's crazy. You're good to start him right now. He is needed. He is necessary. And he should be in your lineup. yeah he they don't they don't have a lot no like even even the opportunity for like turpin this week feels a little like nerve wracking yeah i mean i don't think it's turpentine nice nice okay uh that was starts of the week presented by paramount plus watch the ravens versus chiefs game this sunday get
Starting point is 00:25:49 started at paramount plus dot com slash NFL we'll take a break we'll hit the forecast The end of the forecast we go. Fantasy Forecast, presented by prize picks. 27 receptions for Jake Ferguson. The next highest at the tight-in position, do you know who it is? Is it Joanne? Is Joanne Johnson? Next highest after that, do you know who it is?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Trey McBride. Yeah, that makes sense. Number four. and number five are tied. Okay. Henry? Harold Fanon. And Kyle Pitts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Boy, Kyle Pitts didn't do a lot with that. Yeah. Career? With his career. Yes. His career. All right. Into the forecast we go. International games this week.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Make sure you set your lineups early because the... And my alarm clock NFL, ugh. This is where the, what the, West Coast is not the best coast. It's 9.30 Eastern. East Coast. Like this is what East Coasters, this is what we're used to. 9.30.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You wake up and you let football come to you. It's Sunday morning. You let the sun wake you up. No alarm clock necessary. You just wake up and there's football. Over here, I'm like, it's dark outside. Yeah. And they're playing football.
Starting point is 00:27:18 We've got the 6.30 a.m. game. Minnesota versus Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's hitting 2 and 1, Minnesota 2 and 1 game in well, Ireland. So two and a half point Minnesota, they're the favorites. 40 and a half over under. That's not great. So
Starting point is 00:27:39 both teams right now in the bottom 10 and pass rate over expectation, they're not throwing the ball a ton. Which is really, really surprising for the Vikings that has not been their style in the LaFleur era. And I think it will change. I think it will change with Carth
Starting point is 00:27:57 I mean, and it could have changed last week with Carson Wentz, except the Minnesota defense couldn't stop scoring. So, like, I mean, even a, please stop. Even a team that likes to pass over expectation, I mean, even they're like, oh, we should not be throwing the ball right now. So you have a international matchup here, Aaron Rogers, Carson Wins. You know, Jalen Warren and Jordan Mason have been. super impressive on the season.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Yeah, they're both must plays for me. Jaylon Warren, if people aren't aware, one of eight running backs to be top 20 in all three weeks. I mean, he's been getting all the work. His utilization is wild. He was a 50% workhorse last week, meaning percentage of total team rushing attempts and targets. He played 80% of the snaps and Aaron Rogers does what Aaron Rogers wants. And he has, he said a couple weeks ago, we've got to get him more involved in the passing game because every time he takes.
Starting point is 00:28:57 touches the ball in the passing game, special things happen. Well, he went from two targets week one, four targets week two, six targets week three. These trends continue. I think John Warren would be making a ton of headlines if he could just get into the end zone right now. Yeah. Because he's managing to finish top 20 in spite of no rushing touchdowns on the season. He's a must play. Jordan Mason, that's a must play as well. Which a reminder, Warren was, Gainwell got the touchdown, but Warren had some opportunities. And then they ended up putting game one and they ran a trick play. So what is the truth about this Steelers' defense?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Because they struggled like crazy and week on against the Jets. They were awful in New York. They were not great. 31 points given up in week two against Seattle at home. Last week they forced a bunch of fumbles, only gave up 14 points to the New England Patriots. Are they good? Are they bad?
Starting point is 00:29:49 I mean, they're the highest paid defensive football. I think they're bad. Yeah, I think that they have some talent. they're ballhawks. They're, you know, Ramsey's going to go after turnovers. And I think they can cause turnovers.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Obviously, they can get sacks with Watt as well. So from a fantasy perspective, I think the defense is a playable defense this week against Carson Wins. Do you like them more this week than let's say Washington against Atlanta? No. I think I would like Washington.
Starting point is 00:30:17 In Atlanta? Yeah, okay. However, from a standpoint of can they stop the opposing team? Not really. They turn the ball over three times or four times last week. But that was also like, they gave up plenty of yards.
Starting point is 00:30:32 They didn't look great. And you had two fumble prone players in Antonio Gibson and Ramandre Stevenson that, lo and behold, fumbled again. It kind of sounded like fumble pros because, like, they're professional fumblers, which also applies. Yeah, yeah. It's been the story of Gibson's careers. He gets opportunities because somebody else fumbles and he's like, watch this.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I feel like this is a strange temperature check situation at the wide receiver position. Where are you with Jefferson? Where are you with Metcalf? I mean, we're three weeks in. We haven't talked a lot of Jefferson at all. Yeah, he's been quietly okay. I mean, it's not Justin Jefferson, the guy that you drafted early in the first round. Addison's back.
Starting point is 00:31:15 But in week one, you know, 12.8 points, 9.6. Somehow he scraped together 9.6 points. three for 81 in that horrific game against Atlanta and then last week five for 75 again a weird game script for Jefferson still made it to 75 yards so I'm my confidence in and Justin is still
Starting point is 00:31:36 sky high you like him more than chase rest of the season I think so yeah yeah I do yeah interesting to have that conversation DK Metcalf does he feel like the breakout is coming does he feel touchdown or bust right now I mean this is This is the worst matchup for wide receivers in all of football.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Minnesota's number one against them. Ironically, over the entire season last year, they were the worst. So I think the truth is somewhere in between. They are going to be a very good run defense. D.K. Metcalfe very necessary for this offense. And, you know, it was a weird game last week where he only got four targets. I don't. You like him more than Marv tonight against Seattle?
Starting point is 00:32:20 on the road or not on the road sorry overseas I think I would play Marv over DK this week DK or Devante Smith
Starting point is 00:32:33 at Tampa I would play Marv or I would play DK there so if you're DK or DeVantze Smith you'd trade for Marv and play
Starting point is 00:32:45 Correct The last one I hear is Jacoby or DK and that's Jacoby for me Jacobi is I'm really happy you made him a start of the week because his disappointing week last week and Trey Tucker's breakout like Jacobi is the one and he's going to have a great game
Starting point is 00:32:59 T.J. Hawkinson, you already heard it. Mike's start of the week. He made the case for that and you're not really starting to tight ends because there's too many of them in Pittsburgh. Are you throwing Addison right into your lineup? No, man. No need. I've got Marv anyway, so obviously I'm not done. No, I know. I know. The Commanders 2 and 1. I just talked about this game. They're going to Atlanta. Atlanta's one and two. It was a depressing week for the Atlanta
Starting point is 00:33:23 offense. It's also a Dan Quinn revenge game. In case you're tracking revenge games. Washington minus one and a half on the road. Over under is 45 and a half. Washington won in overtime last year against them. What are we thinking about Jay and Daniels this week? Are we going to get him back out
Starting point is 00:33:43 on the field and do you, does it change the way you project this game? I think he will start, but honestly, I mean, he doesn't even know. He said he's feeling better, but he's not sure if he can go. He's limited in practice, but he is practicing. It's a situation where if Jaden Daniels starts, you start him. And honestly, if he doesn't, I think Marks Mariotta, he's fine for fantasy. He runs a lot despite being, you know, an older veteran now. It's got nothing to lose. Well, and he's six for 40 on the ground, number six overall quarterback left. Yeah, so I think you start the Washington
Starting point is 00:34:17 and commander's quarterback. As far as how it changes the rest, I presume better for every other possible player that, you know, if you wanted to play Bill Kroski or Biel! Bill! Or if you wanted to play Debo Samuel,
Starting point is 00:34:33 you're hoping that Jaden Daniels is active. Well, Terry McClorum might not play in this game. He's a DMP on Wednesday, dealing with the quad injury, seeking other opinions. I would consider him highly doubtful for this week. Same. So I think Debo is a very comfortable play
Starting point is 00:34:49 and I think the bigger question marks in this game have to do with the Washington running back room and then how we're feeling about Drake London so let's start with the running backs we know the story last week you know Kroski Merritt one target
Starting point is 00:35:07 it wasn't like the other guys got any targets though I mean no targets for McNichols none for Rodriguez well and they were blowing him out so I mean you I don't think we know for sure that he's not going to be involved in the passing game from what we saw last. You want to see another week? I'd like to see a week with Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:35:22 That's kind of what I want to see for the passing game for the running backs. But Bill and then Chris Rodriguez and then McNacles, that's the order? Yeah, Bill is the only true startable one to me. And you're playing Bejohn. So I wanted to talk about Drake London briefly to get your opinion on some of these numbers. Right now, if you want to look at the stats for Drake London, spending less time in the slot this year, his average depth of target is down to just 7.7 yards because we have seen these, you know, put it in the flat offense
Starting point is 00:35:55 that they're running with Michael Pinnix. You know, he was above 11 in each of the first three seasons. That is concerning because it's not just, hey, Pinnix needs to become a better passer, which he clearly does. He's dead lasting completion when he's pressured, basically. He's got to become a better passer. But then you also don't necessarily trust him to get the ball away down the field or when Drake London does accumulate right now, he's not accumulating big plays.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Right. I will say that, you know, he's done a lot of his work out of the slot as far as fantasy success in his short career. Last week, really good matchups at the cornerback position this week, as in they were really good corners, bad matchup. This week is kind of the opposite. So I expect a bounceback game for Drake London. Would you other play Debo in this game without McLaren or Drake London? London. I play London.
Starting point is 00:36:42 All right, New Orleans at 0 and 3 take on the 3-0 Buffalo Bills. they are playing the game. There was some talk that they would just skip it. Just simulate it. Just for safety sake. Player safety and it's not going to change anything. Now Buffalo, I mean, last I looked it was 16 and a half. Now it's 15 and a half.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Oh, oh. So the betters, they like the Saints. Well, there ain't no way they can win by 17 points. Right. It is. It's a hard line to pick genuinely when I was, you know, when I was making my picks because the bills, unlike some other teams, they take, they do take their foot off the gas sometimes.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And they'll rest. Like, does Josh Allen play in the fourth quarter? I don't know. But if he doesn't play in the fourth quarter, can the 21 point lead become, you know, right? There's a 14 and then you cover. Right. Exactly. Well, this is. But the bills are going to smoke the saints who are traveling from Seattle on the road all the way cross-country now to New York to get smashed. Yeah, I don't really have any like inkling that it's not going to play out the way we think it's going to play out just because the bills are that discipline. This would be the same as if the Saints were going into Detroit. You know, you'd expect them to execute.
Starting point is 00:38:01 They've been two touchdown home favorites ten times in the Josh Allen era. So, you know, at least the numbers-wise, they've only hit that, you know, big, like right now they're implied point total is 31 and a half. So they've only hit that 32-plus implied mark twice in those games. Two out of ten, yeah. And two out of ten, so we'll see. But you're starting who you know you're supposed to start here. Josh Allen, James Cook, I don't have a lot of confidence elsewhere on the receivers because I think they can win with the two players they just named. And you don't know if it'll be Keon Coleman or Cleo Shakir.
Starting point is 00:38:35 or Dalton Kincaid or anybody else. Or Dawson Knox or Elijah Moore. Yeah, I mean, this is, honestly, Josh Allen might not even do that much in this matchup. To me, it's Josh Allen. You're still, of course, starting him. James Cook is going to be, you know, probably the running back one top three on the week. And then I kind of don't want anyone else on the bills, despite how many points they're going to score, because you don't know where it's going to go.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And on the other side. Desperation play for Tyler Johnson real quick. quick if you think that this game could get out of hand and you have backups in the game? I mean, that's a, what? Well, I mean, you guys have talked about starting Tyler Alger in an emergency situation.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So I just don't, I'm asking the question. If you're salting this game away. Oh, oh, Ty Johnson. Yeah. Well, you called him Tyler. Okay, I'm sure that's what Ty is short for. I did not know who he was talking about. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I was like, who's Tyler Johnson? Because Tyler Johnson. I was about to Google. No, no. Tyler Johnson is a wide receiver. Okay. In the league. Okay, Ty Johnson. So it was very confusing. Not for his mother.
Starting point is 00:39:42 What about Tyler Warren? Ty Johnson. Now do you understand? No. If anything happened there, I would think it would be Ray Davis. Someone figured out the long form of this name. I'm on it right now. That's all I'm doing. Yeah. Okay. We have... But so the other side, Joanne Johnson is...
Starting point is 00:40:03 He's an auto start. Oh, it's just Todd. Oh, in your face. Before you go to the other side, though. His mom was pissed. I dare you call him Tyler. She's like, what in the heck are you? Who is that?
Starting point is 00:40:13 The wide receiver? Oh, my gosh. Shut out back there. All right, listen. Don Kincaid has been the number two and number three tight in. He's so weird. I'm just saying he's not, nobody's talked about it. Nobody's bought in.
Starting point is 00:40:27 If you got a two and three, here's the thing, if you got a two and a three week at a Kyle Pitts, if this exact same thing happens, to Kyle Pitts. I feel like we're having conversations. We're all just like, yeah, this is a lie. Because he plays half the snaps. Yeah, 55%. It feels so fragile.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Kincaid is a fine start. At the tight end position, you don't need as much. I mean, would you start Donn Kincaid or David Noghoku? I'd start Kincaid. Yeah. Yeah, okay. All right. Sorry, you were flipping to the other side. Yeah, I've just, at Juan Johnson, second in targets and second in receptions among
Starting point is 00:41:03 the tight end. he is an auto play. Bills have been really good against tight-in so far. Yeah, it's just the way that the offense works and how fast it runs that your Juan is in. But what do you do with Alvin Camara? Alvin Camara is a must start. I see the question.
Starting point is 00:41:17 To me, he's a must start. He had a very bad game last game, and I know that the targets are down a little bit, but the opportunities. They're all down a lot of it. The opportunities. Where's Derek Caron, you need him? Like, didn't he have 20 opportunities last week? Are you on his profile?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Yeah, he did. He had 20 opportunities, but I mean, it's 18 carries for 42 yards. He's on the field so much. He's still talented. He's been good the first two weeks and then had a bad outing last week. So could he get shut down again this week? Sure. But I'm not going to not start a running back getting 20 opportunities.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I want you to guess the target pace for Chris Olave through three weeks. Oh, it's Chris Olive is a. He's leading. So I'm going to say 205. 209. I mean, he is stupid. It's probably never going to be fantastic for Chris Olivae.
Starting point is 00:42:10 But, I mean, like Jacoby, sometimes you just need those targets, those vegetables. Yeah, give me that fourth quarter. Like, if you need to go, if you need a wide receiver to get volume, I think trading for Chris Alave right now is a okay thing to do. He is, uh, he is not surpass 60 receiving yards in any game and he's on pace for 935 on 209 targets 209 target pays for not a thousand yards those are fantasy veggies yes the browns are one and two and they are traveling to detroit detroit's looking mighty fine of late although they will be uh well we got the the monday night football right so they're a little bit of a short week
Starting point is 00:42:51 but they're at home and they're playing the browns and the vegas line here detroit minus 10 over under 44 and a half 27 implied points for detroit 17 for the browns Brown's defense did struggle to hold up over the course of a long game against Baltimore. So, you know, what is the Brown's defense and what is that a threat to in your start-s-it decisions for Detroit? Is it at all? It's not. Is it a tempered expectation? It's just tempered expectations.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Like Montgomery, you're not concerned about that play? That one feels a little nerve-wracking to me. Okay, so he probably goes more into a flex decision. If you have another great option, you know, like Jacobi Myers. I would play Jacoby Myers over David Montgomery. So you could have situations where you bench him after an incredible game. We have so far seen this defense shut down everybody they've played against, and they've played against great running backs.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Would you play Cam Scataboo against the Chargers or David Montgomery against the Browns? Scataboo. Okay. Yes. I am very, I mean, you're playing on Monra. where are you guys is Jameson Williams just a flex decision
Starting point is 00:44:03 on a week to week basis do you like him at home in this one to me it's like the downfield throws when we had the start sit decision earlier in the week you didn't see Jordan Love able to get the ball down the field a lot it is a little bit concerning
Starting point is 00:44:15 he'll have a couple shots I'd try to pivot away if I could I mean the targets of at the end of last year have not duplicated for this year he's Jameson Williams is at a 13% target which it's it's it's so weird it is so weird what is going on with we just haven't needed it that's the truth but it's still i mean you you have a pie
Starting point is 00:44:36 you got 100% of the targets and 13% are going to the guy you just gave money to yeah you didn't need to pay him that's fair i mean we just weird we need uh we need to see him involved more i think the number one starts a question on the week according to our website involves quinshawn judkins who had a big week last week but you have a Detroit Lions defensive front that was number five against running backs last year, number nine so far this year. We know that they're going to stop the run, and we also know that Vegas
Starting point is 00:45:06 has this game, obviously the Lions heavily favored. The running game for the Browns may become irrelevant over a portion of the game. The number one question is Quinchon Judkins or Trey Benson for Arizona tonight. I feel like that's a really hard one because it's a great
Starting point is 00:45:24 question. I feel like everybody wants to play Quinchon Judkins. If I had him, I'd want to play him. Sure. Emotionally. I would play Benson. I would be on the Judkins side personally. You did see, you know, Alvin Camara's bad game in week three. That was against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:45:39 So Benson, if I have the opportunity to wait and see, I mean, we don't know. Maybe Demarcato is more involved than we think. Yeah, that's fair. We're kind of assuming that Benson's going to get everything now that James Connor's gone. If you've got a Judkins available to start where you can take that break, and see what you got in Benson. It's not a great matchup for Judkins, but it wasn't a great matchup for Judkins last week
Starting point is 00:46:05 against the Packers. Being on the road impacts the decision for me, though, of the can, and the defense is great, but can they hold the Lions down long enough? Because if the Lions jump out to a two-score lead, you will see a lot more Jerome Ford on the field. That's just, that's his role in the offense. So we've got one person on the Judd
Starting point is 00:46:28 side right one on the Benson side and a coward on the on the Tray Benson side our start sit tool okay
Starting point is 00:46:37 the ultimate dashboard would put Benson in okay but it's funny I was talking to people yesterday and they're like
Starting point is 00:46:43 I really want to play this guy but the ultimate dashboard has this player so play that guy and that's kind of what I wanted to
Starting point is 00:46:49 talk about for a second like we are trying to give you information so when you look at the start sit tool we're telling you who's home
Starting point is 00:46:56 who's away what's the over under what's the line what's the implied point total we're comparing how these teams have done against that position group but let's be very clear unless it's a blowout
Starting point is 00:47:08 starts it type of situation projected points wise we just want you informed so that you can make the decision that you feel in your in your gut right you go with your gut go with the team and the situation you know your opponent we don't know your opponent so you might be favored
Starting point is 00:47:24 you might be an underdog you might need a big play you might need more information you play Tray Benson. You get the advantage of knowing what that position, you know, what that player does on Thursday night instead of Sunday morning. So as a reminder, put those players into your running back and wide receiver position. Oh, that's such a good reminder. Put Marvin Harrison into my wide receiver position. For the NFL to rule C.E lame out. Oh, thank you. Is that, do we need to tell them to do that? Apparently. What if he's going to play though? He is not going to play. Yeah, Jason is spinning out right now because he's got
Starting point is 00:47:58 no ability to sign somebody. I can't do anything with my roster because C.D. Lamb is doubtful. Yeah. So there you go. He's doubtful to play for three weeks. Are you guys kind of done with Cleveland whiteouts right now? No. Jerry Judy's been outside the top 30 for three weeks, Cedric Tillman. Because of the game script that they will have to throw.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I mean, Joe Flack, what, 42 passes per game? Is he seriously all the way up there? So Tillman is, I mean, neither of those guys are getting it done. It's been Harold Fanon. We just talked about the receiving totals, but like three catches for Tillman this past week, 26 yards, two for 22 the week before did score. They didn't throw the ball a lot this last week. Yeah, they actually held it in control. You were against a really good Packers.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I've talked about, I think they're the best defense in the league right now, the Packers D. And so that was tough sledding. Now, the Lions aren't a bad defense by any means, but you usually throw them more than that. than you run on them. I'm starting other players. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you need to start rounds on the road. I'm not massed them into lineups. But I'm certainly not done with them or thinking that they are going to be bad this season.
Starting point is 00:49:09 And the tight ends? I go fanning over in a joku, but they eat into each other's work so much that I think that, like I would I would play Dalton Kincaid over either. Hunter Henry? Sure. Okay. We'll take a break. We'll get into some more matchups.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I just want the people to understand, like, the levels we go to to accomplish very valuable information on this show. Kyle the Borgogan, apparently, is still digging into Cumberland, Maryland birth records to find the true birth certificate name of Ty Johnson. We go deep. And so this is what he's focusing on for the remainder of probably the day, if I'm honest. So make sure you get that information out there. Hopefully not the day. If he's the man I think he's. he is because you think he can get it
Starting point is 00:49:58 sooner? Yeah. He may need to get boots on the ground. We may need to go to the records office. 3 p.m. Eastern, it will be done. Okay. Go get him, Kyle. Carolina is one and two. They take on the one and two New England Patriots. The Vegas line here, New England, minus four and a half. The O'Runders, 42 and a half. Patriots, you know, their favorite at home. Carolina had the big win last week against Michael Pinnockson and the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You know, I don't know who the Patriots are yet. That's kind of how I'm feeling. is weird. I talked a lot about Hunter Henry earlier as my start of the week and the fact that the receiving room like I know Stefan Diggs got dropped in our league this past week. He's still out there on waivers after waiver day. There was no drop of like it's hot pickup of Stefan Diggs.
Starting point is 00:50:40 You guys didn't want you want Diggs for my team? Yeah, I mean Kishon Booty, we had a... I can't Citi Lambs down. Oh, right, right. I would have. We got six for 103 from Kishon Booty in week one and since then one for 16 and two for 28.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Not encouraging. And then Demaria Douglas, part-time player. So the offense right now, and then you got the running back room, which that's the big story. Everybody wants to talk about like, you know, yesterday we got some video, right? We got the Chavion was getting those first reps. Yeah, it could be something. It could be everything. It could be nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Yeah, and it's like, what a tumultuous situation where like, okay, let's say Romandre gets forgiven, which I read an article yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was very positive about getting them on track. according to Mike Vrable. And Vrable's a veteran guy. He likes the vets. Antonio Gibson, same story.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But it's also a really weird situation when a fumble ends that players maybe weak or multiple weeks. Let's say Romandria gets forgiven and gets opportunities. What if you fumbles? Right. Do you remember when Chris Carson
Starting point is 00:51:47 had a little fumbling problem for Seattle years ago? You remember this? I don't remember that one. Yeah. Chris Carson had a fumbling issue and I think Rashad Penny was behind him and it was like,
Starting point is 00:51:56 There was a couple weeks in a row. Because he was playing so well, but then it's, you know, Ramandre, I would say, has bent towards the surprisingly good side to start the year. Yeah, I know. I sure agree. But the people want Trayvon Henderson out there. Yes, we do. Are they going to get it this week?
Starting point is 00:52:12 I think they're going to get a lot more Trayvion Henderson this week. He was, in his own right, punished early on for his whiffs in past protection. Now, Vrable came out and said they need Ramondre and that they tried. and that they trust remandre the most in pass protection. So remandre is not going to get the bench. But Trayvion Henderson, they spent a high second round draft pick on this guy, and they punished him, rightfully so, for three holding penalties and screwing up pass protection. But they want to get the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 00:52:44 They want to get it in space. And I think that over the course of the season, they will keep getting Trayvion Henderson more and more involved. Now, is this the matchup where you start him? or, you know, I think in a lot of leagues, you're going to have to wait on starting Henderson and miss out on the first breakout week. So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:53:03 the people would much rather would you rather play Chase Brown against Denver? Or would you rather try it with Hindo? I would rather try it with Hindo. Would you rather play Judkins against Detroit after he did well last week? Judkins, yeah. And then what about Scataboo? I'd play Scataboo. I'd play Scataboo. It does feel, it's not
Starting point is 00:53:18 nice to have to wait and see, but it's also a long season. And you don't want to get burnt you know what are your odds in this game of remandre having a bunch of the work it's not zero it's it's a decent chance and honestly the way that this game looks you know the patriots are four and a half point home favorites and the carolina panthers offense their defenses is not great i know you've got a good defensive player or two but the whole of it is not a good defense um and their offense is very banged up You've got Xavier Leggett, who didn't play last week.
Starting point is 00:53:58 We're not sure if he's going to be back. Probably not. You would call that addition by subtraction. Well, why do you think they scored 30 points? That's fair. Jadavian Sanders is out. Teteroa McMillan didn't participate in practice with a CAF issue. This is part of why I like Hubbard.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I think they're going to check down a lot to him. But I mean, maybe is Hunter Renfro, you know, the type of player where if you're in dire straight so you look to the waiver wire and I think so they're going to have to throw the ball of someone I think I think that that's sneaky if McMillan were to miss definitely yeah for sure I mean they are limited like you said so you had Chuba at start of the week it's just yeah it could be could be a run heavy victory for New England if all these passing weapons are hurt that that was my point price down the road troubled troubled on the road sometimes I mean he he had a home game and they it's not like he was productive last week in the 30
Starting point is 00:54:52 to nothing win. 16 completions for 121 yards. But, yeah, that's interesting. The Hunter Renfro's sneaky start?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Mm-hmm. Jason's sneaky start of the week. And leave it at that. Okay. Mike, any other thoughts here? I just, I think this game is extremely weird. I'm not forcing.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I like Chuba, but it's like other than that, I'm not. forcing anyone in. I mean, Mick Millen's an auto start, so I'm not talking about him. But the other side, I'm letting the running backs do their thing. And the Patriots, wide receivers, they got to figure this thing out. Like I said, get Kyle Williams on the field.
Starting point is 00:55:35 What are you doing? These other guys are not, they're not the future. They're not getting it done. Let the rook unleash him. That is, I mean, that is a little bit of the problem with Rabel. Yeah. Or, you know, at least in our perspective, because I, the reason Trayvion has to his own demise. To his own demise, he is a really, you're talking about Mike Rabel deferring to Kyle Williams in the face of Stefan Diggs.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's a hard thing to do. And he's not doing it running back and he's not doing it wide receiver so far. And that bugs me. Drake May is he still a viable fantasy starter? Yeah, yeah. This week, the matchup is pretty good. He's at home. He's favored.
Starting point is 00:56:15 The work that Ramandre and Trevion are doing, a lot of it's been through. air. So I think Drake May's fine. He scrambles a lot. Second most scrambles in the NFL right now. He's probably a top 10 play. All right, guys. The Chargers at 3 and O go to New York to take on Jackson Dart and the New York Giants, who are 0 and 3.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Chargers 6 point road favorites. The overrunners 43 and a half. This game, it does hit me a little weird. We're going to get to see Jackson Dart out there, Cam Scataboo, Malik neighbors. A lot of exciting. down-the-line players for New York getting opportunities right now.
Starting point is 00:56:56 They're only at 18.8 implied point total. Herbert is entering the MVP conversation at this point. A month ago, he was plus 2,000 to win MVP. Then he was plus 1,500 after Brazil. Now he's plus 500.
Starting point is 00:57:12 He's just behind. Like, he's the guy behind Lamar and Allen. That's a big junk. So, I mean, that one throw when he bent the bullet behind I think Nick Benito. It was helpful. It's also helpful when you are three and oh, and you've got, you know, you've got a lot of winnable games coming up on your schedule. I'm, I'm really, I'm struggling with this one. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Oh, no. Oh, no. No. Oh, he's got that. No. I mean, okay, but. It's six points. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Oh, ho-ho-ho-ho-ho. Andy's almost upset of the week. I feel like you're almost upset with yourself. I am. I am. That was not one I wanted to do. He lets it come to it. The button pushed itself.
Starting point is 00:58:04 You think I want a rookie in his first week? I think it might work. Jason talked about this. Sometimes rookies in that debut game, no tape. The fact he's got the mobility. I think he's going to execute a quick hitting offense. I think he's going to use his legs. and look, the line at six points for the Chargers,
Starting point is 00:58:24 I think the Giants are going to be more competitive than people are expecting, and I hate that I'm saying it out loud. I mean, I hate that you're saying it out loud too. Al, I'm Boreland, what did you just say? Sorry, I was making a bet. I said, I can't believe I have to go make this bet now. Yeah, nobody, like Kyle covered his eyes.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I hope you are right. I find myself just really rooting for the Giants and Jackson DART. want it to be a thing. I was just curious. We do our weekly picks, and I was like, I wonder which side I took on that. I didn't remember. I was with you here. Oh, that's not good for me. Yeah, I know. Usually it's not good for me. It's much better when you think I'm a complete baboon. Um, yeah, yeah, that's, uh, we'll see what happens. That's not the story of this game. There are so many unknowns. I mean, the story of the game is Jackson Dart, but he affects the two big assets of Cam Scataboo and Malik neighbors.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Yeah, your eyes are on the checkdowns, right? Yeah, I mean, that's really important. Russell Wilson, he snaps the ball, and he looks about 80 yards down the field. And then he looks about 60 yards down the field, and then he checks it down at this stage in his career. Or throws it out of the end zone. Well, sure. Well, that's because he was too close.
Starting point is 00:59:43 He was still looking 60 yards down the field, Mike, but it was all fans. There was a mirage. So look, we're starting Cam Scataboo, right? Is that easy? I don't think he is. I think, yes, you can start Cam Scataboo because you expect his workload in the passing game to still be there. Like, even if it's not a massive checkdown, he's not getting eight targets. You still think he's going to get four checkdowns, maybe two, four total targets, two that were, you know, improvved and a couple of screen passes designed to him. He's looked really good. This isn't a great matchup. And we, we are curious. about the utilization in the receiving game so he's not a must start Benson tonight Scataboo at home on Sunday oh man
Starting point is 01:00:28 I feel like that's probably a really big question actually that probably is I'm going to go Scataboo because I am actually more even though there's questions with Dart I'm still more optimistic about Cam Scataboo's receiving work than I am about Benson's receiving work
Starting point is 01:00:46 well Herbert's a lock right we're playing and Justin Herbert every week. Yeah. Malik Neighbors as well. You play him. You don't want to miss out on the great and the potential. Malik Neighbors is too good. Beyond that, though, I think those are your, I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:58 scatibu and neighbors on the giant side. Right now, Quentin Johnston has led the team in receiving yards for three consecutive weeks. So to start the year, and it's not like, oh, I mean, Quentin Johnston, at one point in time, you're like, oh, he's just a deep threat. Well, he has 10 targets. He's on pace for 136 targets. He was the 21st pick in the NFL draft, and he is looking really great right now while he doesn't have to be the centerpiece of the defense.
Starting point is 01:01:26 You want some good news for Marvin Harrison, Jr. Oh, baby! Wait. Look at Cuge. This dude was the laughing stock. He was, his career, we were all done. He is the most physically gifted of the three receivers they have. And I can tell you from the tape,
Starting point is 01:01:44 is not the same player you saw the first year or the second year. He's actually, you know, it's a credit to Harbaugh. He instills confidence in players. And I think you're seeing more effort and athleticism from Quentin Johnston. Mark. Not just going up. I don't know if we can do that. Not just going up into the air, but actually in between the play, running back to the, I mean, it's been really impressive.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah, I don't see how you can bench Quentin Johnston. You have to play all three guys, don't you? Yes. I think all three are. Yeah, it's silly, and it's true. I don't know. I don't think you're always going to be happy with all three guys, but you still pretty much need to start it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, it's wild because Ladd is the, lad is a start and is also the least, like for me on the, like, Quentin has to be in there, and Keenan has to be in there. Yeah, and it's like Ladd, I probably has to be in there, but you may have an option there. People have been, I mean, don't, don't go start
Starting point is 01:02:42 and Trey Tucker over Lad is what we're saying, right? Right, correct. The Philadelphia Eagles are 3 and O, and they travel to take on the also undefeated. Tampa Bay Buccaneers who are sitting at 3 and O. The Vegas line, Philly minus 3 and a half. The overrunner is 43 and a half. The Tampa Bay tugboats, baby. Tugboats?
Starting point is 01:03:00 Oh, yeah. That's the nickname of their tugboat, the guy that they signed to stop the tush push. Okay, needed that context, but now I'm in. I'm in now. Yeah, because of like the professional wrestler? So they're just going to put a 460 pound man in there to try to stop the Tush Push. I love it.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I love it so much. I really hope. I don't know for sure. Right now he's on the practice squad. I don't know that they're actually going to bring him up and do this, but they signed him this week. And there is one reason to put this man on the NFL field. Like, he is not healthy enough. Offensive side of the Tush Push, too. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Give him the ball. Yeah. He might not even play though, right? he might not but uh desmond watson 450 60 thousand pounds i don't know so they're both two and oh these teams are two and oh i feel like the injury to mike evans makes this game feel a little bit shakier but chris godwin practiced in full amecca abuka has been a revelation sterling shepherd been heavily involved kdaughton can be missed or necessary and it's at home like this game being at home in tampa makes it a much more exciting game it's not a high over under. But how competitive do you think this is going to be? I mean, I feel like it's not going
Starting point is 01:04:13 to be a blowout. I don't think it'll be a blowout either. I think that the, I think the bucks can hang. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's tough sledding, but the nice thing is you don't have that many options. Sterling Shepard could PPR his way to a decent, to, yeah, to a, yeah, an emergency start, but we've talked about a bunch of other people that I would probably play over him. Um, so you, you probably don't need to go that low. Emeka, there's no way you're not going to play him. Right. And since he's all alone, he should be okay.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I think Godwin's going to play. Yeah, Godwin should be out there. I think he'll play limited snaps. So I don't know. Full practice on Wednesday. The matchup plus I'm sure we'll get some, you know, hey, Sunday morning, Glazer is going to be like, hey, Godwin's going to play, but he's going to be on limited snaps.
Starting point is 01:05:01 So I'm not pushing him into my lineup just yet. The biggest question on the buck side is Baker. Even if he's got Godwin there, tough matchup, no Mike Evans. Don't doubt him. Don't doubt the dog at home. Really? Yeah, because I mean, who... Let me give you two options.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah, go for it. Maybe I'm wrong. Gino Smith, who was my streaming candidate at home against Chicago, high over under, easy matchup. I thought Chicago's defense looked great last week. I'm going to take Baker. What about Daniel Jones against the Rams, highest. over under on the week. Rams are a good defense too. I mean, I'm fine going either one there.
Starting point is 01:05:40 That's a coin flip to me. The last name I'll throw out. I mean, he has to pass concussion protocol, but Justin Fields. That's the Monday game. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, man. I mean, I don't feel like Baker is going to basement perform for you. I don't think you're getting seven points from him. He's going to get two touchdowns in this game. He'll find a way to do it. all right i don't know i your ceiling might be better with fields it might be better with daniel jones i can get on board with that even gino what if i told you so far the game log for baker mayfield touchdowns week one three touchdowns in week two two don't don't see
Starting point is 01:06:22 touchdown don't in week three one so then you think we got zero coming these trends continue i mean the ticker might just start over he's okay but this is good analysis three or zero first of all, one of the things you guys were worried about at the beginning of the year was that the rushing totals wouldn't be there for Baker. He's on pace for almost 700 rushing guys. So look, to put up a top 10 week at quarterback with one touchdown, dog. He's such a dog, man. This guy is so amazing. I saw an interview with Mike. I'm not too frightened at home, man. I'm just not. I saw an interview with Mike Allstat. And he was asked like, if someone were to call up and say, you know, take your number, because his number is retired,
Starting point is 01:07:05 if you could give your number to any player, like you'll allow any player to actually use your number. He's like Baker. Oh, yeah. It's just like he, I mean, Baker is, dude, how do you not love that guy? You watch him play and that guy love Laser Mayfield. That dude loves football. Yeah. He loves competing. He loves talking trash. He loves him so much. that it makes his pain stop hurting. It's amazing. Jalen Hertz, play him, Sequin, play him. A.J. Brown and Devante Smith, are we...
Starting point is 01:07:39 I mean, yeah, you probably play him. You hope that Baker can get it done, can throw two touchdowns and that you have some second half action here. All right, that was Fantasy Forecast, presented by prize picks. Check out max discounts on the app now, like Jalen Hertz, at more than 0.5 passing yards. Oh, I'll take them more. For the September 28th game.
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