Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Starts of the Week + Week 4 Breakdown, Jason's Curse - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/26

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

It’s football time! On today’s fantasy football podcast, Week 4 matchup previews and Starts of the Week! Plus, Jason makes a big trade and breaks a curse! Get fantasy football start/sit advice and... player outlooks for Week 4. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for September 26th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (02:55) - NFL News (08:10) - Starts of the Week (08:25) - Quarterbacks Starts of the Week (10:10) - Running Back Starts of the Week (12:25) - Wide Receiver Starts of the Week (15:15) - Tight End Starts of the Week (19:14) - Fantasy Forecast (19:27) - Saints at Falcons (28:10) - Rams at Bears (32:45) - Vikings at Packers (40:00) - Steelers at Colts (43:55) - Broncos at Jets (49:55) - Eagles at Buccaneers  (56:45) - Bengals at Panthers (01:00:00) - Parlay Partay Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Welcome in. It's football time. And I mean it. I didn't really mean it last week. I And I mean it I didn't really mean it last week I think we mean it today Oh I mean it I like this I like this game It's a fun game Yeah
Starting point is 00:01:34 Welcome in Rico Dattles breakout Oh gosh Do we have to start the show like that? Yeah Look if he doesn't break out tonight Then next week will be the Rico Dattel breakout. I see what you're saying. Then it will not happen.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I wish I had a button that when Mike says Rico Dattel's name and I push it, a stranger walks in and wheels him out. Like, wheels Mike right out of the studio. Yeah. Into, like, my honor of after the Rico Dattel breakout? Over to the ring of honor where you reside yeah over to the room where you wait for the breakout and you wait in the room yes until that happens you can come right out when it happens oh you will have we'll have like a robe
Starting point is 00:02:16 in that room like a king's robe and you could come out you looking real good or or we'll see you in week 18 uh when you when you're allowed to leave after it didn't happen. All right. No food. No food in the room. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers Podcast Thursday, September 26th. Thank you for joining us. We've got lots of matchups today.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We've got the Parley Partey. We've got news to talk about. Starts of the week. And, yeah, I'm'm here how you doing i'm doing fantastic your voice sounds a little better yeah i think it's i think it's slightly improving yeah that's great you look a little worse but that's age oh okay you did age a lot since yesterday the oldest i've ever seen you yeah Yeah, that's true. We are. I'm ashamed of that joke.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That's the one. That's the one I'm ashamed of. That is the joke that you're ashamed of. That is absolutely the joke I'm ashamed of. That is the highest level of dad joke. No, that's like grand poppy, and that's why I'm ashamed. It reminded me, though, of the Mitch. You've been busted for years, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:20 The Mitch Hedberg joke of when someone hands you a photo. It's like, hey, this is a photo of me when I was younger. And he's like, well, yeah, every photo is still of you when you're younger. It's fair. It's fair. Let's go to the deuces. How are we doing, Al? I'm doing great.
Starting point is 00:03:37 You're doing, oh, in the black today? Yeah. Okay. Made a change for today. Good. Good. Papa Josh still bald and the Falcons still constipated. Into the news we go.
Starting point is 00:03:50 News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Not every show makes their production staff feel so loved. But we do. But we do. But we do. The commanders have ruled out Austin Eckler already for Sunday's game against Arizona due to a concussion. He was playing really well, and he was helping this offense
Starting point is 00:04:13 that forgot how to punt. Yeah, I mean, honestly, every time he's touched the ball this season, I thought, man, this is Eckler two years ago. If they had chosen to just make him a workhorse, I think he would have been great for fantasy. Unfortunately slash fortunately, Bryan Robinson has looked equally very good. They have two quality backs.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I think that is helping Jaden Daniels quite a bit. Yeah, I'm worried about – I love Bryan Robinson this week in that role. The offense does a lot of around-the-line of scrimmage work. That was a lot of – I went and watched every Jaden Daniels pass again yesterday or last night just to go through it, see what Cliff Kingsbury is doing in the offense. The two incompletions were deep shots to Terry McLaurin that didn't work. Then he completed 21 other passes. A lot of those were screen game to Dami Brown,
Starting point is 00:05:06 close to the line of scrimmage, Zach Ertz, that type of stuff. So losing Eckler hurts. It hurts. And then Arizona's run defense has been good so far this year, but Brian Robinson is a start for sure. Alvin Kamara did not practice due to rib and hip injuries. It's a Wednesday practice. But am I remembering, like, there was a,
Starting point is 00:05:26 was there a play where Camaro went down? Yes. Not down there, but you were like, oh, he got hurt. Where he kind of got up and looked like he was shaking something off. So, I mean, look. It was, I'm guessing, his rib and his hip. He played through, but it was when you see it happen and then a player misses Wednesday, just pay attention.
Starting point is 00:05:47 A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, both didn't practice on Wednesday. They're also missing right tackle Lane Johnson, who's dealing with a concussion. We're previewing the game today, so we'll talk more about that. But this was unfortunate to see this morning. Bad timing. Yeah. Who was my hungry for more yesterday?
Starting point is 00:06:07 It was Bucky Irving. Rookie sensation. Well, Bucky Irving did not practice. He was downgraded. So yesterday was limited. Today downgraded. Hamstring injury. Now it feels like the odds are against Bucky Irving playing football.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yes. very much. I think he'll play again. I'm back, baby. I swish. Tank Dell did not practice. Ribs, hand injury. Pay attention to that one. 49ers, always injured.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Debo Samuel did not practice on Wednesday. We would not expect him this week. George Kittle did return to a limited practice. That is good news for the hamstring injury return. Yeah, we'll see if he takes the T. Higgins approach of getting in some full practices here. That's what you want to see before the game. It's the right direction.
Starting point is 00:07:02 As long as that approach does not lead to playing and being unproductive for fantasy, which is also the T. Higgins approach. Evan Ingram did not practice on Wednesday. Gabe Davis limited. What did Evan do in that pregame warm-up? I think in the pregame warm-up, he ripped the hamstring off the bone. Did he forget to warm it up? He didn't do the stretch.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You got to stretch, man. I thought that's what he was doing. Can you hurt it in a stretch? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You never hurt yourself stretching? Gabe Davis Limited, Trey McBride didn't practice concussion. We've got a lot of concussions this week we're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I would expect all of the, like, especially Devontae Smith and Trey McBride, I'm expecting them to miss this week. That's how I'm approaching this weekend. Justin Herbert did not practice with the ankle sprain. It'll come down to the wire probably. It will, however. He talked about how there had been mention of him taking this week off, getting the bye week, but that it's not trending that direction.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So right now it looks like he's going to play. And then Dave Canale said running back Jonathan Brooks after our long discussion yesterday about the Panthers, who were Mike's hungry for more team, he's in the final stages of returning to play. That's positive news. Again, we do not know what the real timeline will be to turn things over to Jonathan Brooks,
Starting point is 00:08:26 but at least we're getting positive news because we definitely could have got something here that was like, oh, no, he's going to stay out for a few more weeks. When you use that language, do you actually believe they will turn things over to Jonathan Brooks, or are you just saying the majority of the timeshare? The majority of the timeshare. Chuba is playing very well. I'm saying he becomes the one and Chuba becomes the two. That may not happen this year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Any other news breaking there, Al, that we need to cover, discuss, talk about? Nothing right now. All right. That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Starts of the week. All right. It is week four.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yes, sir. Week four. And we've got our starts of the week on today's show. We'll start with Mike. Let's kick it off at quarterback. At quarterback, C.J. Stroud against the Jacksonville Jaguars. It has been not the start that you had hoped for had you spent that really high pick on Stroud, QB 8, 16-25.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And, in fact, he has scored.1 more fantasy points than Daniel Jones. But this is the week. Texans carry the second-highest team-applied total of the week. Stroud and Nico are they're going to cook the Jaguar so this is we're in week four maybe you're a little shaky about Stroud this is the confidence play I if I got him I'm starting him I love this I I went to put him in as my start of the week and you had him all right Jason who's your quarterback start of the week uh it's Joe Burrow against Carolina in Carolina.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I had mentioned before that I wanted to wait until Joe Burrow had his big, like, I'm ready, I'm healthy, we're going to pass a lot game, and then I'm going to start him going forward. He had it last week. And we've seen this before with Burrow, right? He starts slow, offense sputters, and then they just let him rip. The Bengals are number one in pass rate over expectation
Starting point is 00:10:27 across the league. He's coming off of 324-3 when he was the quarterback three on the week. And this is the second highest total of the week this matchup. Through three weeks, Carolina ranks 29th in schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks. Joe Burrow's a must start.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I'm going with Kyler Murray against Washington at home. He's my number one ranked quarterback on the entire week. The Cardinals have the highest implied point total of the week against Washington. The team that Joe Burrow got going against last week. They are a pushover on defense. And so I think you have
Starting point is 00:10:59 a number one overall week from Kyler Murray. At running back, I'm going to roundhouse the Thursday night curse in the face. We're just rolling with it. Devin Singletary tonight against the Dallas Cowboys. We often talk about, at least
Starting point is 00:11:16 off the show, of like, man, a start of the week on a Thursday is... Risky business. It can be very risky business, but I'd love Devin Singletary tonight. You ain't scared? No, I am not. I will not be attending church to get that scared away. Look, Dallas is – they're a run funnel, and Devin Singletary is – he's a workhorse running back right now.
Starting point is 00:11:36 RB10 this past week against Cleveland. RB19 against Washington. A late-round pick who is coming through for you. And, look, highest yards per carry allowed. That's the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, you know, I wonder if this Dallas needs to wake up. We know that. So, Devin Singletary tonight for Mike, Jason.
Starting point is 00:11:55 For me, I'm going with the aforementioned Brian Robinson, Jr. He has looked so good on the season. The Arizona Cardinals, you might think about them last year and say, oh, it's just a gimme matchup. Schedule adjusted. They've been pretty good. They're top five against, you know, in fantasy points, giving up to the running back position. However, they lost an important defensive lineman this last week. And Brian Robinson has all the work to himself with Austin Eckler out. He's averaging a career best 5.2 yards per touch right now. And his role inside the red zone is as good as it gets.
Starting point is 00:12:25 He has eight carries inside the 10 through three weeks. That's the second most in the NFL. Right now he has as many double-digit fantasy games as Jameer Gibbs since the beginning of 2023. And I never thought I'd say this guy's name in this segment. I've kind of made it my life goal not to, but the opponent he is playing has given up 121 rushing attempts, which is the most of any team since 2013 through the first three games.
Starting point is 00:12:50 This is Najee Harris of the Pittsburgh Steelers taking on the Colts. I brought him up on the Ready to Roll segment. He has touched the football on 33% of Pittsburgh's plays. We know the recipe, and the recipe this week is probably some short fields thanks to Anthony Richardson Najee Harris primed without Jalen Warren or very likely with a limited or no Jalen Warren I think Najee Harris is a just must play that's going to get 20 touches now I'm going to combo with Jason's quarterback start of the week T Higgins at the wide receiver position against Carolina if you got him,
Starting point is 00:13:26 we're starting him. It's the second highest, like Jay said, second highest over under the week. The Bengals are favored by four. In the first game back, we didn't see the total production, but 90% of the snaps. He's a full-time player. He is a good
Starting point is 00:13:41 player. I don't think it is a... Look, Washington certainly helped, but I don't think it is a – look, Washington certainly helped, but I don't think it is a strange thing that Joe Burrow and the offense really got it together once they were at full strength. So if I got T – look, the Panthers have allowed five touchdowns to wide receivers in three weeks. And this game, this is the game I am excited, most excited for, for this entire weekend, and that's a wild place to be.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, I mean, last week Burrow just barely missed him on a touchdown. He was open in the end zone, found him, targeted him, but he overthrew him and he had to come down with it out of bounds. My start of the week is Deontay Johnson, baby. He's back. He's got a quarterback that can get him the ball in Andy Dalton. 38% of his team's targets last week targeted on 40% of his routes and the Canales came in and he talked about like Deontay is our one.
Starting point is 00:14:32 We're going to scheme plays for him. He is our first read. He literally said that. And then his 13 first read targets last week were second only to Rushie Rice in week three. So he is the X receiver for this team. He's the first read. I expect him to be peppered by the red rifle. He's a wide receiver too now. All right, I'm going to go with a combo platter actually at wide receiver, and they're both Chicago Bears. DJ Moore and Roma Dunzey against the Rams. We talked about DJ Moore in the tradeaway candidate segment.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yes, I did. Mike brought him up yesterday. But the target counts, DJ Moore is tied for fourth right now in the NFL, 8, 10, 10. And I'm adding Adunze to the mix here. Adunze is fifth in separation score. He looked very good despite recovering from the MCL injury. The Rams secondary is probably the worst in the National Football League.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And you saw Caleb Williams. It didn't matter what the turnover-worthy plays were. He takes shots down the field, and the Rams have given up the second-most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers through three weeks, the highest yards per pass attempt. We saw Caleb connect down the field, and I think that these targets and then the connection he has with Roma Dunes leads to this week being a very good game for both.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Okay, so what does that mean for Caleb Williams, in your opinion? I mean, if both of these wide receivers are going to be good, is Caleb Williams a startable fantasy streamer this week? I think he could be a sneaky stream that nobody really needs to take the chance on. I agree with that. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, like Gino. Like, why do it?
Starting point is 00:16:02 Like, Gino. So maybe pick him up off of waivers wait for him to have maybe a good game and then trade him to someone who believes there you go yeah trade him to the bears fan uh my tight end start of the week look we're back into the mucky buck everybody steal underpants i don't know if andy's head shaking i love this start i don't think you need underpants at all i think this is the no underpants start of the week. I'm protecting myself. Say the name. It is Tyler
Starting point is 00:16:30 Conklin of the New York Jets. Tyler Conklin is going to be great. Conk, conk, baby. Staking on the Denver Broncos. This is not just chasing last week's production. That certainly helps for a confidence boost when you go 5 for93 against New England,
Starting point is 00:16:46 but they're playing against Denver. I'm still starting Garrett Wilson, probably, but I'm very nervous about the Patrick Sertan experience. Conklin is on the field so much. He's run the third most routes at the tight end position. It just finally came through. The process finally hit last week. And then last year, Denver was dead last
Starting point is 00:17:08 against the tight end position at fantasy points allowed. Week two, the Muth and Darnell Washington combined for almost 13 points. Kate Auten saw eight targets. Conklin, in a world of nastiness at the tight end position, I think Conklin has a safer floor. Conk, conk, baby.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Also, as a reminder, or if you are new to the show, if you start Tyler Conklin. Yeah, these are rules. And you're watching the game. Every catch, you throw out a. Is this what, like, were we not conking loud enough? This is why I'm telling the people. It's a chicken-egg situation because you can't conk unless he catches.
Starting point is 00:17:44 You can't pre-conk. But when he catches, say conk, conk. You will enjoy your game more, and we will be together. You'll be at the sports bar watching, and you'll hear a conk, conk on the other side, and you'll be like. That is important. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I know we're together in this. My start of the week, Dalton Kincaid at Baltimore. Nice. I'm telling you. For my team. I hate that you have him because he's going to have a very good game. It's been a slow burn for all the tight ends, especially for Kincaid. He did get in the end zone on Monday Night Football,
Starting point is 00:18:17 but here's been the common thing. Three for 41 and a score. Good enough for a tight end five on the week. Monster game. You know, he's been the just give me a competitive game for buffalo though one quarter of football is all that don king k is getting to play in a normal neutral pass rate the last two weeks he's been the clear first read early in the game and then buffalo pulls away right now now the bills go on the road as two and a half
Starting point is 00:18:41 point dogs against baltimore this should be a competitive game where they need Dalton Kincaid, and somehow the Ravens have morphed into a pass funnel. They have given up the most passing yards allowed in the NFL, and tight ends have been a big part of that. Brock Bowers was nine for 98 against the Ravens. Last week, Turd Ferguson, that was where he had 11 targets, went six for 95. Which is Jake. Jake Turd Ferguson. That's not an insult. It's just a good name. No, it's just a funny hat. that was where he had 11 targets went six for 95 which is jake jake jake turd ferguson um
Starting point is 00:19:06 that's not an insult it's just a good name it's funny funny hat it's a big hat uh so i i do think dalton kakade is needed in this game the scheme fits him and he'll have a great week that's good my start of the week is turd ferguson against the new york giants jake ferguson brought up yesterday as a trade for a candidate. He gets peppered with targets. He's the only reliable every down pass catcher for this team outside of C.D. Lamb. They rotate through Tolbert and Cooks and Turpin and other options. But Jake Ferguson is out there all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And, you know, to me, this is a a must-have tight end start this week against the giants which is an island oh an island game we are riding dirty so we're riding dirty uh this week all right we're gonna take a break and we're gonna jump into of matchups to jump into it is week four and uh let's get to it it's time for fantasy forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook all right the New Orleans Saints at two and one traveled to Atlanta to take on the Falcons, who are 1-2. The DraftKings Sportsbook line, Atlanta minus 2.5 at home.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The over-under is just 42 points. That's not a lot, especially for the Saints offense that had done quite well through two weeks, and Atlanta, who seems to get it together every third drive. That's how it feels. It feels like Atlanta's turned off for a couple drives,
Starting point is 00:20:46 and then they're like, ooh. You keep seeing really nice drives every now and then. Yeah. And what's ironic is the only other team I can think of that has looked like that, where you go, oh, they're awesome, and then they disappear for a while, is the Jets. The Falcons and the Jets, the similarities between these two teams is crazy. These quarterbacks that are coming back off of their Achilles injuries.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Achilles injuries. So you can't singleize. Achilles? Achilles? No, no, no. Because it's your Achilles tendon. It's not like it's just an Achilles. It's a guy.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, it's named after the guy, right? Yeah. The guy, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know his name. Right. It's not like just an Achilles. It's a guy. Yeah, it's named after the guy, right? Yeah. The guy, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know his name. Right. It's Achilles. The mythical guy. But I think it is actually named after that, right?
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Don't look it up. Well, I think what happened, yeah, I mean, it was his heel that got cut. Yes. And therefore, it's Achilles' heel. Exactly. But at that time, it was just his heel.
Starting point is 00:21:43 They weren't like, let's go get that guy's Achilles heel or like, let's go get Achilles his heel. Right. You know what I mean? And then it became so famous that everyone was, that's your Achilles heel. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So Falcons, uh, did it. So this is going to be, this is going to be really transitioning into talking about the game. This is going to be really interesting. You've got a team that for two years in a row so far this season and last year, the Saints were not good against tight end. Kyle Pitts is a big question
Starting point is 00:22:12 mark. He had a 50-yard reception last week. The coaches talked about they want to get him more involved, but two for 59, good enough for tight end nine. Are you talking about Pitts? I am talking about Pitts. Yeah, trade him right now. Trade him right now. Oh, man. Before this game? Trade him for Ferguson. You can get that deal done. I think Kyle Pitts has a decent week this week. And if he does and you still don't
Starting point is 00:22:35 believe in him, which I probably won't, you get more for him next week. He's not separating. He's not separating. He's not doing what he needs. He had a broken play. He had one separating. He's not doing what he needs. He had a broken play. He had one big broken play. That's what he did in week one.
Starting point is 00:22:50 That's right. And I guess if you get it, you're good. But, I mean, two catches. Talk to me about Drake London. Tell me he's good. I can tell you that he's good. I know he's a good player. Drake London is all right. Who's a good player drake london is is um is all right who's
Starting point is 00:23:06 a better player andy jaylen waddle or drake london as an nfl player as in a fantasy as a fantasy as like for the rest of the year for the rest of their career oh gosh well jaylen waddle you sure i'm positive oh wow if you said rest of the year, I'd probably tell you Drake London because I don't know what's going on at quarterback in Miami. But Drake London is not going to be the leading receiver every game for the Atlanta Falcons. So that is going to be the risk that you play. Last week in a league, I started Darnell Mooney over Drake London as a choice.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I lost the bet because Drake London got into the end zone again. He is definitely going to be the red zone preferred option. Now, the Saints defense in the division, low over under, I don't know how I feel about this game. Do you like the Saints defense in this game going on the road with how dominant it's been, or do you try to avoid that? I think they're a middling play this week. They're like a low-end, startable defense.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Their defense is of high quality, but I think the Atlanta Falcons' offense should be getting better every single week. Now, I don't know an update on the offensive line, but obviously the Falcons lost a couple of players. I'm going to check on their practice reports. It's still a little too early in the week. That would be the only thing. If they're down those two linemen for this coming week,
Starting point is 00:24:34 then I would fire up the Saints. Do you have an answer to that question that's different? Drake London and Jalen Waddell? Mike? Long term? No, it would be Jalen Waddell for me long term. Okay, so I am definitely trading Jalen Waddell for Drake London and Jalen Waddle? Mike? Long term? No, it would be Jalen Waddle for me long term. Okay, so I am definitely trading Jalen Waddle for Drake London and Dynasty now. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, because you're trying to do the opposite. I'm trying to undo your CD lamp curse. Yeah, go for it. Please, please go do that right now. Let's talk about Bijan for a second. I think it's three weeks. You know, we're three weeks in. His longest run in each of his games, 13, 19, and 7.
Starting point is 00:25:08 He has one rushing touchdown on the year. He has caught a handful of passes, but not what we wanted. Yeah, target week one, that's the target share we want. Yeah, 22%, down to 17%. That's still great. But 7% against the Chiefs. That, that ain't it. I guess I'm just bringing it up because I've seen a bunch of people get offers, uh, for, you know, trade away, trade for B. John Robinson and, you know, RB 19, RB 17, RB 17. Uh, Tyler
Starting point is 00:25:39 Algier has a role on this team. What, what's the, the like where would he get drafted if you drafted it today like Bichon yeah he's still a first round pick he would be a I think probably a top five pick he'd be right around where you drafted him I agree so you you've made no adjustment to your view of Bichon Robinson's potential in this offense no I haven't I mean he he has been a little disappointing as far as high output. Obviously, he's been 13, 14, 12. Yeah, those are the fantasy points per game and half PPR. And that seems like a floor. And that's an awesome floor. If you're talking about essentially averaging 13 points as your floor, the offense hasn't gotten it together, but his utilization has just been so awesome. You're talking about 89, 75,
Starting point is 00:26:26 82% of snaps, 86, 61, 70% of running back opportunities, 100, 83, and 100% of running back reception. So the talent is there. The opportunity is there. I'm fully in on it. Would you take him or would you take Alvin Kamara?
Starting point is 00:26:43 Because Alvin Kamara is, you knowara right now, he was the running back 6-1 in 15. His attempts have been through the roof. I mean, they ran it 26 times last week, 20 the week before with Kamara. It's not even been a story of targets.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It's been a story of just massive opportunities. Kamara is still somehow criminally undervalued. I'm happy to hear you put him in the conversation with Bijon. He deserves to be there. He was the running back four on a per game basis once he was back from suspension last season. He's in that conversation. If I were to redraft today, I would still take the youth of Bijan over the age just from an injury fear. I mean, right now you've got Kamara missing practice, so can he hold up for the entire season?
Starting point is 00:27:27 I mean, he usually does, but he also doesn't usually get the work he's getting right now. The auxiliary wide receivers here are – Andy, are you going right back to Shahid? Like, the shots were there. Yeah, I mean, Shahid is – he was never going to be a must-start guy even with those performances. He was going to be a flex play. Okay. So, Shahid or he was never going to be a must-start guy even with those performances. He was going to be a flex play. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:46 So Shahid or Calvin Ridley. That's the category of decision-making you're in right now. Shahid or Darnell Mooney on the other side. Mooney's at home. Mooney's line right now is 39.5 receiving yards. I think that's borderline disrespectful. Well, the Saints are a good defense. The over-under is very low.
Starting point is 00:28:08 There are a lot of decisions to be made in this matchup, and we talked about Pitts. That seems like a decision. The quarterbacks, I think we're probably sitting both quarterbacks down in this game. Preferably. But Kamara and Bijan are locks, but Shahid, Mooney, those peripheral flexible guys.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I'm fine flexing. Olave and London, are they locks for your lineup? Is London a lock? Yeah, they are. Yeah, he is. Yeah, it was nice to see. I mean, I know it was a garbage time touchdown the week before, but it was nice to see London score again last week.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Is London in the just hold category right now? He is for me. What do you mean as in not trade? You're not saying. I mean, he's starting. I think, like, are you going to try and – would you try and trade him off these two weeks? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I think the Falcons are just – they're going to heat up. His 24% target share is what I thought he would have when I statted him out for the UDK. He ended up as my tight end – or my wide receiver 11, I think, and that was with a 24% market share. So I'm going to hold. The Los Angeles Rams at 1-2 take on the 1-2 Chicago Bears. My wide receiver, 11, I think. And that was with a 24% market share. So I'm going to hold. The Los Angeles Rams at 1-2 take on the 1-2 Chicago Bears.
Starting point is 00:29:13 We just talked about this game in the context of a couple wide receivers in the start of the week. Chicago, three-point home favorites. Over-under is 41. And so here we go. It's been reported early this morning that the Bears are going to give an extended look to Roshon Johnson, which they should because any extended look at DeAndre Swift will leave you vomiting in the toilet. This is why Roshon was a waiver ad. There were some clips going around highlighting DeAndre Swift's choices as a runner.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Another word might be ineptitude. I mean, you were pretty kind with your words about DeAndre Swift earlier this week. Was I? Yeah, I think you said he's the worst player that's ever. Maybe the worst in the history of the National Football League. Right. Oh, man. I mean, just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:06 He's hurting their offense. Like, if I'm a Bears fan, I'm like, stop giving him the ball. If you want to make DeAndre Swift some sort of screen game pass catcher on third down. That's fine. And give first and second to Roshan, although he can catch the football as well and is much bigger than you, DeAndre. I've got a great idea. First and second down Khalil Herbert.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Third down Roshan. And you re-roll what was just fine last year. Yeah. It would be better than what we're getting with Swift. So that makes Swift a bench for all three of us. His line is at 38.5 rushing yards. That is
Starting point is 00:30:39 not optimism and that matches everything I feel about him right now. DJ Moore and Roma Dunzay now I brought them up they're my starts of the week the secondary for the Rams is atrocious the Bears are at home their implied point total is 22 I like them but I don't know if you guys like them no look DJ Moore as a trade away maybe you want to hold maybe you want to hold through this weekend because it uh everything makes sense for him to have a good game and a doomsday as well. So I don't mind that call at all.
Starting point is 00:31:11 The thing about DJ Moore is, though, if he goes out and has a bad game in this matchup, like the value plummets. And Keenan Allen returned to a limited practice. It's limited on Wednesday. If he is full go by the time Sunday hits, Keenan Allen in week one was a target machine, if I'm remembering it right. He was 11 targets.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He was 38% of the targets against Tennessee. Now, yeah, that's Caleb Williams' first ever game. But Keenan Allen is exactly the type of wide receiver that Caleb Williams should love throwing the ball to. Well, let's talk about where Keenan might impact as well because Cole Komet was a waiver-wire pickup. He had a ton of targets. That is a concern for me.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Would you go Cole Komet this week knowing that Keenan's probably limited or out over a Kyle Pitts, or would you play Kyle Pitts? I would play Kyle Pitts. Yeah, I'd stick Kyle Pitts. Yeah. I'd stick with pits on the other side of the ball. Predictability at wide receiver has been brutal. The answer has been no one. The answer in this game,
Starting point is 00:32:14 if you, if you like made me pick DeMarcus or Tyler Johnson or Jordan Whittington or tutu, I would pick tutu. That's who I would pick to start. If I had to flex a a wide receiver from this team. Tyler Johnson's done nothing. And Demarcus Robinson has done nothing.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Demarcus Robinson, one catch last week, two the week before. Tutu seems like when he's on the field, he does have something with Matthew Stafford that is a little – like it was four for 93. What's funny is that he is this schemed up guy like Tutu is not in as often but when he's in he's in motion he's targeted on those plays where he's in motion and they're getting him down the field I think that you are fine to take a shot on Tutu if you want I also think Demarcus Robinson is an okay play as well
Starting point is 00:33:01 obviously the four targets he only came down with one of them. However, he had a deep bomb touchdown. It was a 40-something yarder that was called to catch at first, and then they saw he was out of bounds slightly. He's on the field so much. He's running
Starting point is 00:33:19 so many routes, so I'm fine taking the shot there. There's not a ton of wide receivers out there that are doing that. Mooney or DeMarcus Robinson? Mooney. Mooney. Kyron Williams? Yep. I think you should probably play him. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And pay attention to Roshan. See what he does in this game. Alright, Minnesota's 3-0. They go to Green Bay to take on the 2-1 Packers. The DK Sportsbook line. Green Bay minus 3 at home. The over-under is 43.5. We excited for this game? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 This will be my game of the week if it were not for the gift that the Carolina Panthers and Andy Dalton have given me. So the Packers at home here, what's the latest on Jordan Love? And, you know, are we expecting him to be back? It's still limited. I'm guessing he will be back. The play of Malik Willis, though, it's given them at least the opportunity that maybe they think, hey, we're at home,
Starting point is 00:34:20 despite it being this divisional matchup. This is a very important game for the Green Bay Packers. If you fall to 2-2 and lose a division game and Minnesota's at 4-0, that creates a problem of trying to catch up. So I think that Jordan Love is going to push to play. There are a lot of people that want to take the plunge, start Sam Darnold after the four touchdown game you know i have a super flex league i'm going to start him over anthony richardson against
Starting point is 00:34:49 pittsburgh i don't blame you uh are we are we in for a pumpkinning or are we going to continue to see sam darnold execute this offense at this level aaron jones justin jefferson maybe jordan addison back on the field uh are you guys confident with him on the road in Lambeau? Because I'm nervous. I think I'm more confident than Jason is. Now, Sam Darnold's touchdown rate is astronomical. It's at 10.3%. And a reminder, the baseline around the league for touchdown percent,
Starting point is 00:35:25 which is how many of your attempts actually turn into a touchdown, it's about 4.5%. Elite players can be up in the high fives, maybe low sixes. So that will come back down to earth. Aaron Jones will start getting rushing touchdowns. That will happen. But I believe in this offense so much. It's the same way that, like, generally speaking,
Starting point is 00:35:47 you believe in Sean McVay's offenses as well. So maybe, you know, someone like, if you're streaming, maybe you go to, like, Geno over Sam Darnold. But I added Darnold in the League of Record. I have Jordan Love as my main quarterback. I'm preparing to play Jordan Love in this matchup, but I think long-term, that's why I picked up Darnold. Brock Purdy was available, and I said, no, I want Darnold on the team because I want to see if this is something that can continue because
Starting point is 00:36:15 I think, not this, not a 10% touchdown rate, but I think that Darnold can become one of those surprise quarterbacks that finishes in the top eight who no one had ranked anywhere near that. To be fair, when I saw that you picked him up over Brock Purdy, I was like, what is Mike doing? So I think we disagree here. Obviously, I still just hesitate to believe that this is just going to be real and hold forever with Darnold. He's been great. I don't want to take anything away from him, and I love that you is just going to be real and hold forever with Darnold. He's been great.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I don't want to take anything away from him, and I love that you're willing to take the shot and say, hey, I think it is legit. I think, you know, he's got the right coaching staff. You know, you talked about Geno as maybe a play over him, but Geno is the comp of, like, we've seen a player who was left for dead resurrect his career, and maybe that is what Darnold gets to do um this season so I I'm out Andy what's the tiebreaker there are you do you believe in Darnold the rest
Starting point is 00:37:11 of season do you think it's going to hold up and be legit not not like top five but like do you think he's going to be a a number one no but I mean a stream worthy starter regularly the way we view Purdy I mean Purdy hit a waiver wire this past week. So I think viewing him. Sam Darnold or Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes. I think if you compare him to Purdy, that's the best example that you can give. Now, Josh Jacobs was disappointing last week.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You're with a different quarterback. He's not getting any targets in this offense with Malik Willis. They also split. I think that was the bigger thing for Josh Jacobs. Not that he was bad, but Emmanuel Wilson came in 41% of the snaps, 41% of the running back attempts, and
Starting point is 00:37:55 looked very good. It didn't bother me. Tennessee looked in the up-down offense, giving Jacobs opportunities to come off the field, and then having Emmanuel Wilson break off a big touchdown certainly hurt Jacobs. But his rushing line's at 57 and a half. I'm comfortable with Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Jaden Reed, Christian Watson and company. You know, Reed is the only player I'm willing to start there. I know you guys talked about picking up some of these. Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah. Wait. Oh, I have undone the curse. I have undone the curse. You have undone the curse?
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah, I've been over here working my magic. Screw you two guys! Did you trade Jalen Waddle? I traded Jalen Waddle for Drake London! I did it because you guys told me not to do it. You guys convinced me to trade CeeDee Lamb for Jaden Waddle years ago and that ruined me.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I just got a superstar, and I know it because you two guys cursed me, and I did it. That's right, baby. You traded Jaden just a one for one? I added Pat Friermuth. See you later, sucker. I got to go get my superstar. I now believe in Drake London.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Oh, my gosh. If you drink one bottle of poison, the answer is not to drink a second bottle, Jason. This is great. Don't drink a second bottle of poison to make the first bottle go away. I love it. I broke that curse. Thank you, fellas. Jason has been typing
Starting point is 00:39:17 through the last two matchups and I didn't know if something was happening. We're working, Jason. I honestly thought something was happening at home. I didn't know if something was happening. We're working, Jason. I thought something was happening. I was working too. I honestly thought something was happening at home. I didn't know what was going on. I'm like, when will Jason come back to the show? Yeah, no, I'm back, baby.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I'm back and I'm hyped. So thank you, fellas. Anyways, what were we talking about in the context? So you asked the question earlier, who's better for the rest of the career, to get the answer from us and to do the opposite. Exactly right. Exactly right.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I was so hoping that you guys concurred. And you both were definitive that Waddle is better rest of career than Drake London. Thank you. Thank you for that. So the two fantasy football recent champions in that league agreed. Yeah. And you went Drake London. To be fair, I think we are the previous three champions in that league agreed yeah and you went jake london to be fair i think we are the
Starting point is 00:40:05 previous three champions in that league so we're all good here okay well back to the show jayden reed jayden reed yes unbelievably awesome um he is on on a per touch basis he's breaking not according to that letter mike made me read publicly to everybody a long time ago. I didn't make you do nothing. Anyone who is anti-Jayden Reed, I think you should be quick to take your L. He looks amazing on the field. He's been great with Malik Willis. He will be better with Love.
Starting point is 00:40:40 If you can get him now, I would get him now. He's different. You watch him on the field, and every time when he's got the ball in his hands, you go, oh, that guy's fast. He's like lightning out there. Pittsburgh's 3-0. They take on the 1-2 Indianapolis Colts. The DraftKings Sportsbook line, Pittsburgh minus 1.5.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Over-unders, 40. So we've got three straight games with pretty low over-unders 40 so we've got three straight games with pretty low over-unders you've got uh justin fields v anthony richardson richardson is at home but the matchup is difficult the pressure the amount of fantasy points given up to the quarterback position through the year last year steelers only gave up 13.3 fantasy points on average to quarterbacks this year they've lowered that to 9.5. And Anthony Richardson's averaging about 9.5. Let me tell you, so we're doing the parley-partey later on,
Starting point is 00:41:36 and I was super close again to switching from my running back receptions to Anthony Richardson over 0.5 interceptions because that is his current line and that feels like I don't see it's at a half it's at a half so does he throw one or not yeah he does I mean gosh I don't know how he doesn't I like the only way he doesn't is if he just fumbles too many times to have the opportunity to throw a pick it's been a uh it's been a bumpy ride for Anthony Richardson and when you contrast that to the kind of accuracy and performances you're getting
Starting point is 00:42:07 from Jaden Daniels right now, I'm sure Colts fans are disappointed. We know that Richardson has tremendous potential, but this week is not the week that we expect to see that potential manifest into fantasy points. So, to me, Richardson is a... He's outside of my top 12.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, he's a bench unless you – unless he can't, right? Yeah, I mean, so I have him in our league of record. He's my main, you know, quarterback. I still view him as my number one quarterback on the roster, but he is a streaming option for me. So I've got Geno in my lineup this week over anthony richardson so if that shows you kind of where that bar is he's he's pretty much a must sit for me this week if you can't deal with a very good defense like he couldn't last week then you cannot deal with
Starting point is 00:42:58 the steel do you know how many points they've given up on the year so far the steelers yeah well you said nine per game yeah they're giving up times three no that was for quarterbacks fantasy points is what I told you oh but it's gonna be pretty close to that like 30 points yeah they get 26 if I had done the math I would have got to 27 you should have just would have been the math based on the wrong things but yeah um they don't we are a results over process that's right that's right results over process showdown results over process everyone that's fair number one in points per game number one in yards allowed
Starting point is 00:43:30 Indianapolis is the opposite of this this is why I think Najee can just run it run it run it take low risk chances with Justin Fields you know Jonathan Taylor his DK rushing line is 73 and a half and I would be taking the under on it I get it I mean one big play Jonathan Taylor, his DK rushing line is 73 and a half, and I would be taking the under on it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I mean, one big play, Jonathan Taylor can erase your expectations, and you're obviously going to play him. He's the only Colts that I really want to play. I think that's fair. And then on the other side, Pickens. Sure. Play Pickens, play Najee, and then Fields. Would you play Fields or Richardson? I mean, I'd go Fields. Yeah,ens, play Najee, and then Fields. Would you play Fields or Richardson?
Starting point is 00:44:05 I mean, I'd go Fields. I would play Fields. A nasty boy question here for you guys. How do you feel? Look, love Najee. No argument. But if Jalen Warren is out, he didn't practice on Wednesday, if you're in a deeper format, what are your thoughts on Patterson?
Starting point is 00:44:23 No, thanks. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, it could work if he gets in a deeper format, what are your thoughts on Patterson? No thanks. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, it could work if he gets in the end zone, but otherwise I think it'll just be five fantasy points. He was higher than that last week where Warren did get some snaps. 34% of snaps, nine opportunities, a 16% target share. I think Patterson, if you're like a, like a 14 team or is, if Warren doesn't play,
Starting point is 00:44:47 he's okay. The Broncos are one and two. They take on the two and one New York jets, the draft King sports book line jets minus seven and a half at home. The over under is just 30, just 39 and a half, which is this gives the Broncos an implied point total. The lowest we've seen so far through four weeks.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I think there's been a handful of teams right at 16. That's what they have on the road in New York. The Jets have an implied point total of 24. This is the matchup where Bo Nix is going to be really, really put in a box. Javante Williams. Did you look at what the line was jay is oh i haven't seen don't look at it oh i don't look i'm gonna guess giovante his rushing line his rushing yardage
Starting point is 00:45:33 obviously it's terrible starting running back 29 and a half you're a little too high oh man i went low 24 and a half 28 oh my a half. Oh, my goodness. Javante. We also got word that Tyler Bidet changed his name to Bidet before the game. Right, right. Like, what you're allowed to do. Splish splash. Taking a bath.
Starting point is 00:45:56 He says he's going through some stuff. He doesn't want to get into it, but his name is Bidet now. That makes it sound like the stuff he's going through is Falcon related. Yeah. Yeah. And you got to wash that clean with a Bidet. That makes it sound like the stuff he's going through is Falcon related. Yeah. Yeah. And you got to wash that clean with a bidet. Also, the name change happened to be good for his career. Dude, Tyler Bidet is a great player.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah. Tyler Bidet. Tyler Beatty. I don't know. Yeah, Tyler Beatty. You can flush him out. You're saying because, you know, turning over a new leaf. Now, I will say this. So, when I look at this game, I saw the 7.5-point line earlier this week,
Starting point is 00:46:29 and it's one of those specific matchups where I understand the line because I don't – if you want to beat the Jets, here's how you beat the Jets, and you can beat the Jets easily if you have a good run game and you start strong with a good run game. You just take – you keep the lead and you keep running on them. They don't have a good run game and you start strong with a good run game. You keep the lead and you keep running on them. They don't have a good rush defense. Their pass defense is as good, if not the best in the league. They're eighth against running backs right now.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Sure. Fantasy. I mean, if you look at the games and how they've played out, that's fine. But I'm just saying, like, personnel-wise and what I expect to be the huge. Denver can't run the ball. I don't know why they're so bad at running the ball. Maybe it's just Javante. Maybe the bidet comes in and allows them to run.
Starting point is 00:47:11 McLaughlin's been worse than Javante on a per-touch basis. Yeah. Or just as bad. If you can't get a lead and you can't run the ball, which they're not going to be able to do on the Jets, I don't think they're going to be able to run the ball on the Jets. They also won't be able to throw against them. Well, that's for sure. I mean, Bo Nix
Starting point is 00:47:26 is going to... Last week was great for him, so I want to give him his flowers, but going on the road here is... If you double the line, I might take the Jets. I will say this. Bo Nix should be picked up in fantasy for future weeks. If you don't realize
Starting point is 00:47:42 how much he's been rushing, his rushing touchdowns, his rushing touchdowns his rushing touchdowns from college his speed like he has nine for 47 last week he has not been given any credit really on on our show um and and from anything i've seen much online or elsewhere as a mobile dual threat quarterback but he actually is a mobile dual threat quarterback. But he actually is a mobile dual threat quarterback. We saw it in college. It's one of those things where it's like, would that translate or not? Baker kind of was.
Starting point is 00:48:11 He ran in college and didn't. Bo Nix is running, and he's running well, and he's running away from defenders. So this isn't the matchup for it, but I do think he has decent fantasy output this year. If you look beneath the shadow of Patrick Sertan, you'll find Garrett Wilson lingering there. This matchup is not a good one. It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:48:28 If you look historically, the last three weeks, Mike Evans, George Pickens, DK Metcalf, the yardage numbers against Patrick Sertan were low. Yeah, the couple plays that Wilson doesn't have Sertan on him, hopefully that's when Rodgers finds him. Yeah, and it's been, you know, Rodgers has been willing the last few weeks to go away from Wilson based on coverage.
Starting point is 00:48:47 So Lazard, dart throw. He's scoring a touchdown. I actually think he'll probably be okay in this game. And then Tyler Conklin, that's why I like him, is because of the Sertan treatment on Garrett Wilson. Do you guys think, like, I'm trying to think about this Denver Broncos situation because Javante is toast. Jaleel McLaughlin is not working.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Would you do a preliminary ad of Odrick Estime? Not yet. No, because I don't think that this backfield is never going to be one person. This backfield, they're not going to say, like, we're just done with you to Javante this season. So I don't think any one player can accumulate enough stats. I think it's going to be three to four guys. So when Estimate comes back, it's even worse for everybody.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I just think it's worse. I just don't think you're ever going to – we're going to be where we were last year where you just couldn't predictably start any player. I mean, we're just re-rolling. It's the inverse of historical Sean Payton where you could start multiple backfield guys in a successful offense. Now you've got a rookie quarterback
Starting point is 00:49:51 and a struggling run game and too many options. Like, did you know Tyler Bidet was going to get opportunity last week? Because I didn't. The answer wasn't to give it to McLaughlin a bunch of times. We didn't even know who Bidet was. That's true. They had a guy, Beatty, that I knew.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Right, I knew that guy. Going back to Cordero Patterson, as like if you're in a deep league and you need a backup, I feel like in this game I'd rather play Braylon Allen. I don't think he's someone that I'm trying to put into lineups, but you could see this game getting out of control and Braylon Allen having the entire fourth quarter to himself and cleaning up.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And obviously he's talented. He has been worked in with Brees Hall starting in the first quarter. So he'll get some work in this game, and obviously Brees is going to crush. All right, let's take a break and get back into some more matchups. Would you take Bijan or Brees rest of season? Brees. The Philadelphia Eagles 2-1, taking on the 2-1 Tampa Bay Buccaneers after their disappointing performance last week.
Starting point is 00:50:57 The DraftKings Sportsbook line here, Philly on the road minus two. The over-unders 44 points. Tampa, if you remember, spanked the Eagles in the NFC wildcard game last year 32-9 Baker threw for 337-3 and Hurts didn't run the football much
Starting point is 00:51:14 this year what are we expecting in this game we got the word on I mentioned it earlier Bucky Irving mispracticed we've got an update that Bucky Irving won't talk about the hamstring injury, but he says he thinks he'll be ready for Sunday. So we don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:51:29 He said he feels pretty great. T. Higgins pretty great or like a normal person? Either way, I'm probably avoiding Bucky. Well, the Eagles are top half against running backs. Fancy points given up. They were top six last year. So a split backfield with Rashad White and Bucky Irving doesn't seem like a great place to target.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Now, White in the passing game could obviously provide. If you listen to Todd Bowles, the two press conferences he's given since that game, he's been pretty definitive about the fact that, one, Bucky Irving's earned more snaps, but, two, Bucky Irving cannot win the job. I mean, that's kind of his language is that it's like it's going to be both those guys. They need them both, and this is not about Bucky Irving winning
Starting point is 00:52:16 the running back position. So Rashad White in this game, his rushing line is only 36.5, but the passing game work. Where are you fantasy- wise with what Rashad White is to your lineup is he still an auto start to you because that's what he was drafted to be I think he is near that he's just you know an auto start doesn't mean that you are a running back one I view him as an RB2 maybe even an RB3 but that is in most leagues going to be started regardless of the matchup when you add in Bucky Irving's hamstring issue or non-issue,
Starting point is 00:52:48 I think Rashad White is fine because of his work in the passing game this week. Mike Evans, it looks good for him in this game. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, I think, assuming they're out there, they were both limited on Wednesday, I think they're both fine. If they're both out there, you're playing both of them, right? With confidence. With confidence. out there they were both limited on Wednesday I think they're both fine if they're both out there you're playing both of them right with confidence with confidence and then on the other side of the football what do you where does Jalen Hurts throw it like I you know I'm probably not going to hit the almost upset button on this game but I could definitely see the Eagles offense struggling
Starting point is 00:53:17 to move the football because of the fact that they may not have their top two wide receivers and the numbers that Jalen Hurts puts up without those guys, they're not good. I talked about Dallas Goddard yesterday. Now, the tight end position so far through three games, if you adjust for the schedule, Tampa Bay is better against tight ends this season than they were last season when they were historically bad. So maybe they have fixed that, but it's still pretty early.
Starting point is 00:53:44 They're going to need Dallas Goddard in this game. I don't know. I'm not confident in Dallas Goddard. You're certainly going to start him. I mean, he's got the matchup and the opportunity. He's coming off of a great performance where you pretty much have to, the process says to start him, but he has disappointed people many, many times in the past well hurts Barkley and and Goddard seemed like the three stars are you playing obviously you're playing Devante Smith or AJ Brown if they were back up yes if they're active but we're not expecting them back we're not expecting them back it later in the week we'll have more information um you know I I would think Devante Smith has a chance because concussions are just out of the player's control, out of our control.
Starting point is 00:54:28 You can just be cleared and then you're ready to go. You're not, you know, recovering and you're just you are good. So either one, if they're active, you're going to start. And also, if you. Breaking news. Huh? I just thought you guys would want to trade for Did you trade for Jalen Waddell? No, no.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I thought you might want to know that the Lions have activated a wide receiver to the team's starting roster. Fireball? No. Allen Robinson. What? Allen Robinson has been activated to the active roster for the Detroit Lions. Still playing football. I didn't
Starting point is 00:55:06 know he was on the Lions until just now. This is great news. What are they doing? Oh, I know what they're doing. They're getting ready to run the ball. I mean, Allen Robinson played so many snaps last year for the Steelers. You can't even believe how often he was out there because he was
Starting point is 00:55:21 an offensive lineman out wide. he's just there to block other wide receivers while we run to the edge so it's actually probably good news for Gibbs crazy huh yeah it's insane I didn't know he was sorry that was that was special breaking news just for this show um you were probably saying some things about some of the players I was just gonna say so I've got Dallas Goddard in three of my main leagues. It has worked out very well over the last couple weeks. He was my pickup
Starting point is 00:55:49 for injuries in those leagues. I took a shotgun approach across three leagues, and I took Dallas Goddard and I traded him for the top five tight ends, you know, the ones you want. So did you? You fired out 15 trades? I fired out 15 trades across three different leagues, and I got one of them to go through.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I was able to trade Dallas Goddard for Mark Andrews. I don't know. Maybe it doesn't work out. Maybe it does. I got Dallas Goddard off of the waivers, and now I added Mark Andrews to my team. So if you've got Dallas Goddard, if you're one of those lucky teams, if there's guys you would rather have, shotgun it because you never know, baby.
Starting point is 00:56:22 The frivolity of your trading uh unseen from you in history all right uh i think that covers this match up yeah it does well no the one other question is baker uh like would you start baker over anthony richardson yes at home yes against philly's secondary with mike evans and chris gobbins i, I would do that. I have Baker ranked a couple spots behind Richardson. Richardson's downside is so tremendous. Yeah. When's the last time Baker scored? Negative.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I guess last week he was at 8.5. Baker was real bad last week. He was at number 2, number 6, and then number 27. I would play Baker personally. Honestly, in week 2, against the Lions this is like this that should be a matchup that we're excited to play Baker Mayfield in he completed
Starting point is 00:57:12 12 passes for 185 yards and one touchdown he just he ran for 34 yards and scored on the ground the odds of Richardson giving you a big performance or almost nothing so that's why I would play Baker is that Pittsburgh The odds of Richardson giving you a big performance are almost nothing. So that's why I would play Baker is that Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:57:30 Pittsburgh could make Richardson look foolish, but if Richardson has a good game, it's still not going to be the ceiling that you would get from Baker at home against the Steelers. That's why I would go that way. Yeah. I get it. The Bengals at Owen three take on the one and two Carolina Panthers and what Mike is calling his game of the week. The one in six combined Bengals Pan 0-3 take on the 1-2 Carolina Panthers in what Mike is calling his game of the week,
Starting point is 00:57:45 the 1-6 combined Bengals-Panthers matchup. The DraftKings Sportsbook line, Cincy minus 4 on the road. The All-Runners 47, which is the second highest total of the week. That's gross. Let me just say that is gross that 47 is the second highest of the week. We have gone down in total touchdowns, right, for three straight weeks? Correct. What if we didn't do that?
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah, let's score more. Well, let me tell you how we're going to score more. Andy Dalton, baby, against the Cincinnati Bengals. Andy Dalton has a chance to end the Bengals season in 2024. I mean, as the former franchise quarterback of the Bengals, who was tossed into the garbage, thrown away. I mean, this has got to mean something special to that man. It probably means something special to these Bengals defenders as well.
Starting point is 00:58:36 His passing line said it. That doesn't matter. Wait, they have defenders? I mean, believe it or not, they have defenders. It didn't look good against Washington. It looked really good the week before. So, you know, they're up against it, right? It's make or break for the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I think this is a tough one, a tough one to break down. The over-under is great. I mean, you could get a game like the Washington game where you get a lot of production from both sides of the football and you love it. Chuba Hubbard, big week last week. Deontay Johnson, your start of the week. Andy Dalton,
Starting point is 00:59:13 a streaming candidate in this one. Keep your eyes on Xavier Leguette because I think this is his game. I think this is the one where you should see breakout potential in it. Only three targets last week, but a very explosive player. You want to see the snaps go up.
Starting point is 00:59:30 They should. You need to stash him. Grab him on waivers right now this week. Yeah, no feeling. Yeah, feeling's on IR. This is a first-round rookie who now has a quarterback that can get him the ball. And so I love that callout. I think he should be rostered. He should not be on
Starting point is 00:59:45 any waivers. Zach Moss on the other side of the football. Probably a good wide receiver running back two this week. The volume is there. His rushing line is at 55 and a half. 55 and a half.
Starting point is 01:00:03 He's the guy. He's the guy for the Bengals. Top 24 wide receiver the last two weeks. No, not talking about Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. Talking about Andre Yoshivas, who got some good publicity from his head coach this week, said the arrow's pointing up. Five for 52 in a touchdown last week.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Two receptions and had two touchdowns, only on seven yards. That's tough. That's Mike Evans stuff. Would you rather stash Yoshivas or Leggett? The team is not
Starting point is 01:00:36 keeping T. Higgins. T. Higgins is often hurt. The future number two for this team is going to be evaluated. He'll be evaluated, but they're making game plans to win, and they have to win. They're trying to make the playoffs, and they're starting 0-3. So T. Higgins is the better wide receiver
Starting point is 01:00:53 and is the more important, more involved player going forward this season. I would rather have Xavier Leguette than Yoshibas as a stash. So Joe Burrow's my start of the week. No, he's not. No, he's my start of the week. No, no, he's not. No, he's my start.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It says Andy. Oh, don't even know who your start of the week is. Uh, Joe Burrow. Good to go. Should be a fun game. A lot of fantasy relevant players.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And we'll see if Andy Dalton comes down to earth, which look, that can happen. No, that's kind of why we will not this week. How many, how many teams has he played for since Cincinnati? I mean, you've got New Orleans, Chicago, Dallas, Carolina.
Starting point is 01:01:33 So it's been since 2019 when he departed Cincinnati. It's kind of wild. So we'll see what he does at home against a desperate Bengals team that generally, you know, they throw some stuff at the quarterback that they're not used to seeing. I do expect, like this is one where the hope is you're going to get two bad defenses, two good enough offenses where you have a barn burner and you score a ton of points.
Starting point is 01:02:04 But I do expect the Bengals to come out here as a team on fire they're not going to because they're 0-3 they're not going to dismiss the Panthers and not get up for this game this is a Baltimore last week going to to Dallas exactly I the Bengals are a good team um they're not, you know, they're the most shocking 0-3 team to start. And so, yeah, I think they're going to go in here and cover this line. All right, it's time to move on. We'll cover the rest of the matchups on tomorrow's episode of the show as well as our Wheel of Shame and Fantasy Face-Off.
Starting point is 01:02:41 We do have our parlay partay, and I need the Falcon to bring me some of that. Freaking Brandon Ayuk. Brandon Ayuk. 60 yards, my friend. That's all you needed to do. He got 10 targets. He didn't get 60 yards. 5 for 48. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:59 The clown wig goes back on for Mike and I. Kyler Murray, 207. Jason's back on. I'm the king again, baby. So two clowns, one crown. And this week, Jason's got a pattern. I got a pattern, and it's working.
Starting point is 01:03:15 He's doing the same thing every week, which is taking. Two out of three. I'm trying to find a running back with a busted receiving line, and so I'll hop right in with mine because I'm doing it again. Chuba Hubbard's line, it's broken. Over two and a half receptions. That's all he needs. This is a game we just finished covering where last week he got the ball
Starting point is 01:03:37 more than 20 times, including five receptions from Andy Dalton. This is a new team with Andy Dalton who is going to check down to Chuba. He just needs to get it three times over two and a half. That is my favorite line this week. And based on the fact this clown wig is starting to feel more and more at home in 2024, you may want to bet the opposite of mine. But I don't – look, the Rashad White line I had two weeks ago – You're coming as a hater.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Seems like a – I think you're right in this, though. I like this line. Well, that's why you expect a big game. But Garrett Wilson, I'm taking the under 65 and a half receiving yards. Hater. The alt line. He has not hit 65 receiving yards yet in 2024.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And then you get Patrick Sertan in this game. This seems like a lock. DK Metcalf on Patrick Sertan in this game this seems like a lock DK Metcalf on Patrick Sertan had 29 yards George Pickens had 29 yards Mike Evans had 17 yards as far as on the plays where Sertan was covering. So you've got to more than double
Starting point is 01:04:36 those peak numbers in order to lose this one but Wilson's actually been under this number 9 of his last 11 going back to before Thanksgiving so I really want to put the crown on. I'll share it with you. I'll share it with you next week. And you went to hating on Gary Wilson.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Yeah, I had to mix it up. I get it. This is our week. We're going to be three kings. Nico Collins, 70-plus receiving yards, eight targets in every game this year. CJ Stroud is my quarterback star of the week. 80-plus yards in five straight games going back to last year for Mr. Nico Collins. It's the Jaguars.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Look, they play the highest rate of man coverage in the NFL. It's not going to matter because Nico is a man, and you cannot stop the dig route from Nico Collins. To add to this, the Jaguars' shocking lack of a pass rush. I mean, all of a sudden, they have no pass rush. If Stroud has time in the pocket, that's where he finds those down-the-field bombs. It's less Stephon Diggs, more of Nico and Tank. And then Tank is currently dealing with his own thing.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Nico should easily pass 70 yards. All right, so the parlay partay, Garrett Wilson under 65.5 receiving yards, Chuba Hubbard over 2.5 receptions, and Nico Collins 70-plus. Let's be triple crown, the triple crown next week. We got that? I agree. All right, that was Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. New DraftKings customers bet $5 to get $200 in bonus bets instantly.
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