Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Starts of the Week + Week 6 Breakdown, Dart Throws - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/9

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Oct 9, 2025. It’s football time! Confidence starts for Week 6 of fantasy football on today’s episode! Plus, lots of matchup previews, injury updates, and tough start/sit ...decisions. Get prepped and set your lineups for the Week 6 action! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. All time. Yeah. Sounding a little bit like the snap of a whip. Yeah. Welcome in Thursday, October 9th.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Somehow, October 9th. And we have a great show for you today. Annie Mike and Jason, the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Back with you, big show starts of the week today. The forecast will get into it. All the matchups and news to talk. about and yeah it's it's go time week six any upset predictions for the evening uh nope how about the uh the baltimore ravens uh oh i think they're gonna struggle oh you're not
Starting point is 00:01:16 going to pick them again i'm not going to drop a huge uh lessons have been learned bank roll on um no i i think that uh they're not going to have a good time without lamar jackson no and Lamar Jackson unlikely to play before the by week, which seems smart, except the part where you're 1 and 4. That's the part that makes it very, very complicated. Like the commanders
Starting point is 00:01:40 were without Jaden Daniels for two weeks, right? Yes. And they managed to grab a win with Marioada in the first one, and they had a nice record. It's much easier that way. But we want to remind you here at the top, check out the website the Fantasyfootballers.com. Weekly
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Starting point is 00:02:50 there were a lot that we didn't say at join the foot.com because you also get an extra episode every week as well. So we'll be recording the footcast later this afternoon and dropping it to the community there. It's time for some news. News and notes from Around the League, presented by Progressive Insurance. Al wants me to thank the foot gland or the footland to thank me for an extra AC turbine sound in today's show. in the last six months occasionally I've been menopausal
Starting point is 00:03:30 it's pretty wild yeah you got that you got that peri menopause right now we had Jason spent most of his career as a human is that what they call it your life career my life career just always hot yeah and I guess it was correlated slightly carrying a lot of extra weight because you you famously ran through the streets of
Starting point is 00:03:52 I think it was Nashville in 40 degree weather perhaps without a top I had the the uncontrollable jaw of shivering where your teeth are clacking because you're so cold and you can't
Starting point is 00:04:07 stop it no matter what and Jason's just rolling Cisco oh yeah he opened the steam coming off the chest so that was the way it used to be and Mike and I were normal people and you ran hot
Starting point is 00:04:19 now you are the one turning the AC up dude you are you're out of control you occasionally am running a little warmer Al would you agree that occasionally yeah how cold is it back there for you guys 67 okay not not cold enough
Starting point is 00:04:34 all right end of the news Thursday night football Tyrone Tracy is back he is in Darius Slayton is out it'll be interesting How much do you care about the Tracy I mean I care about it a little bit I said this before I am not going to not start Cam Scataboo
Starting point is 00:04:50 until you know like if tonight Tracy comes and is 60% of the carries and all of a sudden Cam Scataboo ends up with 12 total opportunities, then I'll adjust. I don't expect that to happen and I'm not going to preempt that happening. What are your odds of being really bummed tonight because of the matchup with Philly's D and the Tracy return for Scataboo though? You want to get off to a good start? Do you think that there's a chance you get, you know, sub eight points? Yeah, I think there's a chance. But my only hope here is about opportunities. How many times as he touched the ball and how involved is he in the passing game? Because I think that's
Starting point is 00:05:25 really for fantasy purposes on this version of the Giants where you're not really going after touchdowns. So if you don't have touchdowns, you want the, you want the games with seven, eight targets. He's the better player. Yeah. He's the better running back. He's probably the better pass catcher. He's the better blocker. Oh, the number two, search on the site right now, start sit tool is Cam Scataboo or Bill Crosky Merritt I would go
Starting point is 00:05:53 I like Bill I would go Bill I have Bill ahead Now I will definitely go Bill Bill All right Chris Godwin You see what Washington's like
Starting point is 00:06:03 In on that now They are embracing The Bill We were here first Do you remember when he retweeted? Oh yeah And then he pulled it Because he's like oh crap
Starting point is 00:06:15 I don't know what I'm doing Yeah, I had like a million views in a couple hours. You don't know who had been the Belkow of Washington sooner, had you not deleted that tweet? Yeah, that was on you, JCM. Yeah. All right, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, did not participate in Wednesday practice. Godwin, I had seen it reported as a fibula.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So, I mean, maybe that's correlated to the ankle because that was the break. There was a quote that he came out of the game with soreness. He's not been himself yet. It's not. No, not yet. a surprise, but we'll see if he gets there. I've watched so much tape of the Buccaneers Seattle game because it's delightful tape to watch. I mean, on both sides, both teams played so well. They're wearing those sick jerseys. Yeah, they were beautiful. Just bring those,
Starting point is 00:07:00 just make those full-time jerseys. Dude, I posted that because it's like that generation. I love like most of the jerseys. The cream sickle on the on the fuck side, and then I don't know what they call that beautiful blue. Kelly Green should come back for Philly and then the blue for Seattle should come back. And we should probably renovate a lot of them. But the response I got... Also, grunge music. Oh, you want grunge music back?
Starting point is 00:07:23 I mean, if we're just talking about like 90s stuff that we want to come back. Okay, okay. Landlines, here we are. No, but I posted that thinking I would get... Blockbuster video. Blockbuster is back, baby. We're opening the first blockbuster. Most people did not respond that way. No.
Starting point is 00:07:40 People are age? I guess the Tampa Bay jerseys were like, unanimously hated, but now they're beloved. But, like, that's why they change. Brooksie said both of those box wide receivers have not yet been spotted at practice this morning. It's Abuca versus the world, baby. I mentioned Kate Aughton.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I was going to say, Kate Aughton is a good pickup. I said Abuka. Who's that? I don't have the drop in here. What? Goodness gracious producers. Emika at Big Bo. Someone got that wrong. Let me try that again. Emika a begbo.
Starting point is 00:08:15 did it play 55? Because I accidentally hit 55. Okay, okay. I was trying to find it and hit the wrong button. Well, we lost ourselves there. Cain Otten was the mention on the backup options, but if Godwin were to miss, he would be in prime position. He's far more interesting.
Starting point is 00:08:33 To get some touches. Alvin Camara day to day. An ankle injury. The report was, it happened on Wednesday, is what I saw. Yes, the actual injury. Yeah. And the day-to-day, this is one of those. We need more information, but of course the conspiracies are going to come out of like, oh, is Alvin Camara hurt right now?
Starting point is 00:08:57 Or is Alvin Camara about to be traded? Making sure he's not going to get hurt. Correct. Either way, Kendra Miller should be picked up if he's not in your league. Like, he's one of those guys that I think is not rostered enough for the way that he's performing on the field. he's earning more and more playtime. And you have that whispering from the bushes that maybe Camara gets traded. There's another name being rumored, by the way. Oh, in the trade world?
Starting point is 00:09:25 In the trade world at running back. And I'm curious how you react to trade rumors for the players themselves because I don't know if it can get better for Elvin Camer leaving. And I don't know if it can get better for this guy leaving. Yeah, I agree. It's Breece Hall. Breast Hall trade rumors. He is not under contract for next season. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah, he's a rental. team is, I mean, of all the, I think he's more likely to be traded than it's a preemptive strike, right? A team can trade for him and then potentially extend him. He would cost more, but you'd have a younger player. You'd have a future at the running. The trading for veterans is insane. It's like, Breece Hall, who we love in the fantasy world, if he gets trade, it's probably like, I don't know, four, six swap. The cost for these guys is so low. The teams rumored around Brees Hall, Chargers, Chiefs, Texans. Man, that would suck if the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:10:18 That would be terrible. That would be devastating for two players. Yeah, exactly. That's like, I know. Unless Hampton's injury was somehow more long term. Yeah, you would end up in a worse spot than you had when it was Hampton and Noggy. I don't think it's not amazing to go to the Chiefs. You're going to have a committee situation there.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah, you will. And the Texans, you're also going to have a committee situation there. I don't know for sure that you have a committee situation. situation of the Texans, but you've got an offense that's struggling, a bad offensive line. You know, if Joe Mixen was there. I think if Joe Mixen was healthy, we would never see Chob, we would never see Woody Marks. There's rumors about mixing coming back, too.
Starting point is 00:10:55 The ankle, making progress was reported. Rock Bowers didn't practice on Wednesday. Michael Mayer practiced in full. He should be their starter. Bowers will probably miss another week, but we don't know. We'll see. It's just Wednesday. Matthew Betts did basically say that this is an injury he's playing through that
Starting point is 00:11:10 he can actually aggravate it, make it worse. So he expects a multi-week absence for Brock Bowers. Almond Ross St. Brown didn't practice on Wednesday. They play Sunday night football. I'm not super worried yet. And Terry McLaren, it was first reported, was that the one where the arrow is pointing up? No, no, that was Tomlin saying that the arrow pointed up for Jalen Warren.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Oh, I'm sorry. Whatever the arrow was doing for McLaren, it is flipped to the not looking good category. Yeah. Because I thought there was a report by Dan Quinn and he was optimistic about Terry McClorn playing. It's a Monday night football game. You can basically just cross Terry McLaren off your list this week because I don't think you've got a great Monday night pivot option
Starting point is 00:11:48 for the commanders at wide receiver that you can pick up and it's looking like you don't want to play a Monday night football game with a guy that might not play. Yeah, you'll probably, what you're saying is Sunday. You're going to need to start someone else before you know. There is. We have two Monday night games, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:12:05 So I can't recall who the second one is. Let me look it up real quick. I'm just nervous about McLaurant. I mean, it's not like he was playing well for fantasy. I'd be nervous around him anyways. So bear, it's Bears Commanders and Bill's Falcons. So bears, you're talking. You can pick up a Keon Coleman.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Loser burden. Or, I mean, yeah, Darnel Mooney, who I get, I think Darnel Mooney was not at practice. No, he's not. So. You can pick up one of the 75 Bears or Bill's wide receivers is what you're saying? Sure. John Jennings did not practice. And the team is not counting on Ricky Pearsall.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So. I mean, we, we miss him. He was leading the league in receiving yardage before the injury. Brock Purdy didn't practice on Wednesday with the turf toe, working to get back, but wants to get back at full strength, which maybe Mac Jones gets another opportunity, but he was also limited on Wednesday. John Lynch said he should be okay.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I feel like Mac Jones is going to start again. I think he is. And it's a really good matchup against Tampa Bay right now. Yeah. You know, Baker is scoring. and while the Tampa Bay Buccaneers don't have a bad defense, they have been beat. I mean, Darnold had a great game last week.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And right now, Mac Jones, in his three starts, two times it's been a top 10 fantasy quarterback, which is the San Francisco system. Weird. It gives us fantasy goodness. Joe Flacco has been announced as the team starting quarterback. That would be the Bengals starting quarterback for week six. Joe Flacco is famous for being very fast to pick up an offense play calls.
Starting point is 00:13:38 play designs. I think that's what motivated Cincinnati to make the switch to him instead of maybe James Winston or Russell Wilson. It's just Flacco is very quick. If you brought James in and had him start, you would take the playbook and you would light it on fire. You'd say, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Just figure it out. You guys go out and run. James, it's a screen pass to the running back. Screen past the running back. Go deep. Got it. Joe Flacco is as fast at processing. offenses as he is slow in an offense physically.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Good luck, Joe. Yeah, good luck. That was today's news. They don't play the Packers or anything, do they? No, don't worry about it. Okay. That was today's news and note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com, progressive casualty insurance company affiliates
Starting point is 00:14:24 and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or situations, coverage of policy terms, limits, and conditions. Let's get into it. Starts of the Week. Presented by U.S. Bank. All right, these are our confidence plays, our confidence picks for the week. Looking for those great matchups and opportunities, starting at the quarterback position, Mike. Kick it off.
Starting point is 00:14:48 My quarterback start of the week. I'm going with Jordan Love. We're going against the Cincinnati Bengals. They're allowing 4.2 points above expectation for quarterbacks. Talking about the Bengals, that's fourth. So as in, it's the fourth best matchup right now for quarterbacks. Josh Jacobs and crew, they're going to get theirs. but I think that they're going to end up throwing.
Starting point is 00:15:09 They will still throw and get some points. Jordan Love's averaging 250 and 2, and he's giving you, you know, a tiny little bit of rushing. I'm starting him over Patrick Mahomes. Okay. So I made that call in one of my leagues earlier yesterday, actually, but it's a good matchup. I agree with it. Jason. I'm going to go with Drake May. Drake May has been playing really, really good football.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I know last week he didn't have a good fantasy day, but he was outstanding. You saw this earlier in the year. with games like from Dack Prescott, where he was playing great. You watch a film. You're like, he's playing good ball. Now he was the quarterback 29, but if you just know someone's playing good, the touchdowns will come. And then this matchup is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:15:51 The, you know, the Saints have literally only held one of their opponents below their average. And that was Jackson Dart, who doesn't really have an average. You know, it's like that. So you can't even say whether he was above or below. You're getting digs healthy. You have three weeks right now already. inside the top 10 for fantasy
Starting point is 00:16:08 finishes for Drake May. He's on pace for almost 400 rushing yards. I think he's a really good play in a dome against the Saints. And I am going to go with the adjusted expectations I now have for Matthew Stafford taking on the Baltimore Ravens. He already has the best wide receiver
Starting point is 00:16:24 in football this year in Pooka Nuku. We knew how powerful that was. But it's time to just admit the fact that Devante Adams is a big upgrade over Cooper Cup and what Cooper Cup was doing at this juncture of his career. He's got two plus passing touchdowns in four straight games. He's been a top five fantasy quarterback in two straight weeks, not something you usually say about Matthew Stafford. And you can't just say, hey,
Starting point is 00:16:46 it's just lucky touchdown games because he's leading the NFL in yardage. So Matthew Stavford is actually cooking right now. So let's not underestimate these two wide receivers and the power that they have in the offense. Oh, and they play the Baltimore defense, who's beat up and forgotten how to play defense. They're giving up 262 yards. They're giving up 262 yards a game to opposing quarterbacks on average which is the second worst in the league
Starting point is 00:17:12 Matthew Stafford's a great start my running back start of the week Bill Bill Crosky I like it I like it he has not built a new list I haven't built a new list you you might have your start of the week you didn't come in with one
Starting point is 00:17:29 no I actually expected it from you too Mike what you're the guy too bad okay well now that all the steam is gone uh bill kroski takes on chicago last week we hit a 47 percent of the offensive snaps but his workhorse usage in that time was it a 31 percent so 31 percent of the carries the targets ends up with a big breakout running back four on the week and the arrow is pointed up as mike tom would say i am so bad and this is the bear's team that just gave like ashton jentzy who could do nothing. Plays the Bears. Look who's great. First of all, very split on the pointed pointing debate on Twitter. A lot of people were totally fine with it. Some people were in your camp.
Starting point is 00:18:16 This game is equally exciting and scary for me, for Bill. Yeah, sure. I think this is the game that solidifies Bill. If he's the start of the week and he's deserving of it, and the snap counts are where they were last week. And he has, and he's leading the league in yards per carry, and he has the breakaway runs. and he has a big play.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I think he's the highest-graded PFF running back. So his tape is coming back good. His numbers right now, I believe, are similar to Sequins with half the opportunities. Did you know that? Yeah. Like, he's running at 6.6 a carry. To me, this is the game. This is the solidification.
Starting point is 00:18:48 This is primetime, right? Oh, is it? Monday night football, right? So this is your, like Bill on Monday night football, you go out and you show the world that you're a top running back. Then I will have, then I will have jokes on Tuesday. He will, Jason will have a brand new list. That is my promise, too. You're still researching, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:19:07 No comment. No, yeah, DVD. But to me, it's a season-defining moment for Bill. So, if you believe it will happen, I promise you he's cheaper now than he will be after. Yeah. Jason. All right, my running back start of the week is currently... This is outstanding.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You guys have my two running backs for a league of record. Breeze Hall. Breast, Breast, Breast, Breast, Breast for the Jets before he has possibly traded. Denver has a good defense, so you might be scared about that matchup, but you can run on Denver. Amarian Hampton's breakout game was against Denver. Jonathan Taylor was literally the number one running back on the week when he played Denver. Last week, Saquan, he only got six carries. He still had a good fantasy game because of his work in the receiving game, and Brees did not lose receiving work with Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Two games without Braylin Allen. Breece has had 19 opportunities and 20 opportunities with five and six targets in each of those. while being miserable while being absolutely depressed I don't think he wants to be there I don't think he wants to be there only because I don't I think he thinks that the Jets
Starting point is 00:20:14 don't want him to be there like he knows he's not their future the way that the Jets have treated him is I think kind of crappy I mean he's he's but for fantasy purposes like you said it's lined up I'm gonna go with yeah this is how dare you
Starting point is 00:20:29 how dare me because you have taken it How did you, you got in the dock and you just threw a minute. You didn't even show up on Monday. How did you make a moment to victory lap? Dare you. Rico Suave himself. Our guy, Rico Dowdell.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Oh, he's our guy. No, what's wild is these were, these are the three running backs I had on League of Record to start the week. How did I lose to you last week, Jay? I'm too good. Rico Dowdle, revenge game, Dallas. Oh, guess what? Dallas sucks. I mean, the Dallas defense is 28th against the running back position.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Chuba's not practicing. he's running with a vengeance. And the thing that's been so strange to broaden the discussion around Rico, we've spent a year and a half, or maybe two years now, just repeating the fact that Chuba Hubbard is underrated, which means like the Carolina ability to run the football
Starting point is 00:21:19 under Dave Canales has just worked really well, even though the team has struggled at times. Like Chuba just always got his. Even in these games where they were struggling, Rico's got all of the opportunity this week. I had to trade him. Rico was a dog. And it's killing me because I wanted to play him this week.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I traded him because it's not going to be a long-term thing for Rico, but he is, he may ruin some Chuba. Yeah. So, all right. We're going to turn the page here, Mike. We got a wide receiver position. I want to shout out Christian Olavé, who is just quietly. Oh, please be right.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Please be correct, Mike. And, I mean, the, he is being classified on the internet as the PPR scam of the year, which, totally, that's appropriate, which is not, look, sometimes, sometimes you got to scam the system and the system rewards you with just getting receptions and Olave is doing that. Currently, four wide receivers in the NFL have seen 30 plus percent of the team's targets. Puka, JSN, Garrett, Chris. Olave, who is just soaking up so many targets. They're not as valuable
Starting point is 00:22:32 as obviously as the Jason. What I've been saying about targets, man. Targets don't matter. But they are nuanced. The Patriots have done a bit better against wide receivers over the past two weeks, but it's just they're at home. The way that they're playing, I think that Chris Olave is a very solid start. He has one
Starting point is 00:22:50 touchdown with 244 yards. That is not a normal thing. Like that is a he should have regression. And, and have some touchdowns in his future. Yep. Speaking of touchdowns in their future, Teteroa McMillan. Still waiting for his first one.
Starting point is 00:23:05 He's waiting for his first one and Dallas is like, come on down, baby. Because the Dallas defense sucks. Period. Full stop. They are the worst of the worst. They are giving up 14.4 points per game above their opponent's average at the wide receiver position.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Just at the wide receiver position. For context of how outlandish that is, the Rams are the third worst. And they're giving up 4.8 more than their opponents average. From 4 to 14.4. The Ravens number 2? Yes, they are. They're around 8 or 9 above replacement.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Tetaroa is awesome. I mean, period, full stop. He has looked like exactly what they... A lot of grammar punctuation going on in this. You always got to say your punctuation. He's looked exactly like what they hoped when they drafted him. He has been... Parenthetical.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Mossing people. His yardage is there. His targets. are there. I mean, he's five games into a career. He's already on pace for 145 and 1,200 yards, just no touchdowns. And so you put a great player against a terrible defense, and I'm going to take that every day of the week. He has been so good, exclamation point. Stop. I, look, I return space, indent. Now I, are you boys texting now? He's starting a second paragraph. No, I'm in on this week in the matchup. I don't know what I, I don't know where I would put, like, let's just say it out loud
Starting point is 00:24:27 real quick. Rest up season. I guess we have those rankings. We do. Where do you see tech? Because I don't see him as a wide receiver one. I don't have him in my top 12, but he's in my top 20 with, I'm waiting on this week. I think that this could be a momentum
Starting point is 00:24:43 shifting. A moment that could shift his season. I have him right now at 13, one spot behind Cortland Sutton. I have a 13 as well. If I had Cortland Sutton, you trade him for 10? trade him for 10. So I need to, I need to flip flop. Flop, period, full stop. All right,
Starting point is 00:25:03 AJ. Hif and Flop. A. A.J. Brown. You're going to love to hear this, Jason. Oh, my goodness. I'm taking AJ Brown and I'm doing it on an island game tonight. Start of the week, AJ Brown. It's going to go well because I trade them away. Touchdown guarantee. Oh, come on, man. Seriously? Me and Matt already took that one. Guarantee. Did you really? Yeah. Yeah, touchdown guarantee for AJ Brown tonight against the Giants, 30th against the pass. Like the first one? A.J. Brown is on pace for
Starting point is 00:25:32 150 targets over his last four games. So it's not been an isolated target onslaught. They're passing more in neutral game scripts. Sequin's not been as efficient or effective. It is coming and it's coming tonight. All right. My tight end start of the week. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I got a... Oh, you're putting on some... It's a low level, low level, I think. Steel underpants. You haven't worn underpants very often. Well, I got to get more dad. Well, first off, the pants have been flying off. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Oh, yeah, you had been no pants store. Yes. Underpants, though, steal. Because I needed more information here, because this is when you start finding matchups. You start finding some nasty boys. Jake Tongis McBasketball, back-to-back 13-point games with Mac Jones,
Starting point is 00:26:17 a 19% target share over that time. The wide receivers, we went over it. They're banged up. I give Juana plays. I think he's very interesting. I would like to play him. Kendrick Bourne, a nasty boy you can maybe play. But Tonjus McBee, he's getting it done,
Starting point is 00:26:31 and the Bucks have been a plus matchup for tight ends, especially the past two weeks. All right, Jason, you are, I feel like one of the themes this year is you've been able to isolate situations that people would hyper react to as negative and then maybe say, hey, let's just calm down, right? Like the stock's going down and you're like, it's not going to go down forever.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Let's just chill out. That's when you buy. Don't sell. Right. You did it with Ladd McCocky last week, And you're coming back here with dud dud. Yep. Two dud games in a row for Joanne Johnson.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And so people are dropping them and moving on, thinking, oh, well, you know, he sucks. The thing is, is he doesn't suck. He's been on the field. He's on the field for 85 to 90% of the snaps. Was banged up. On a fast pace offense. Rattler is on pace for over 600 passing attempts. This is part of the OLAV thing, right?
Starting point is 00:27:16 Like, Rattler is dropping back and throwing it a bunch. They're not the best targets in the world, but he's throwing it a bunch. And sometimes it goes one way and sometimes it goes another. in the last two weeks, dud games for Joanne Johnson. But this is a player who, well, I mean, we've already seen. He was the tight-in three and the tight-in four in two different weeks this year. And now he's playing the Patriots fourth worst against the position. Camara's a little bit banged up.
Starting point is 00:27:38 So those short-yardage type of targets, I think Joanne Johnson, you know, is like easily five receptions in this game. If you want to guarantee very few points of the tight-in position, what you can do is just play who played well last week. Yes, exactly. Because if you just chase it like that, you will always set yourself up for a couple points. Just play the touchdown. Jake Tundress McBasket. Well, he's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, there are some elites, Mike. Hall of Famers. Tucker Crafts my start of the week at Tighten against Cincinnati. Had the big breakout game. Got hurt. Disappointing-ish. He feels like he's been gone forever. Yeah, he's our consensus tight end won this week.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Oh, my goodness. Probably because he's a dog. I just learned by looking at the screen. He's number one on my board. Cincinnati is the worst. It's because Cincinnati is the worst team in the entire NFL against the tight-end position. They are done last. And he plays every down. I think he's got a great shot at a touchdown this week. So that was starts of the week presented by U.S. Bank Smartly Signature Visa card. Visit usbank.com slash smartly card to learn how you can earn cash back on every purchase.
Starting point is 00:28:45 The creditor and issuer of this card is U.S. Bank National Association pursuant to a license from Visa, USA, Inc. some restrictions may apply. We'll take a break. We'll get into the matchups. It's time. Fantasy forecast, presented by prize picks. We get the Bears, Falcons, Packers, and Steelers back from the by Texans and Vikings taking a break this week. Set your alarm.
Starting point is 00:29:21 arms, we're playing in London again. All right. Why don't they ever do it the other way? What I mean? Like play it in Hawaii? No, no. I mean, in London, like, why not? Couldn't you do it later?
Starting point is 00:29:36 I feel like they've done that once, where we had the morning slate, and one of them was a London game. Like, I don't know what the time difference is. No, I probably sound stupid, not knowing the times over there. What time is it when they start in London? Can we get that information? Because we're starting at 630 Pacific, right?
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah, 6.30. So I want to know what time it is in London, and then I'm going to make... There's no way to find that out. I'm going to make the proper adjustments to their schedule for them. But it's the Denver Broncos at 3 and 2 playing the 0.5... I'm seeing 2.30 p.m. Yeah, there's no problem. We can start a primetime game.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. You can just start that game at 4.30. Yeah. That seems really okay. Start it later. There's no rules anymore. We just start two Monday night games. And now there's no rules.
Starting point is 00:30:20 just started an hour later. Yeah, now we're talking. Goodness gracious. Denver's 3 and 2. The Jets are 0.15. Denver's 7.5 point favorites here in London. Over under is 43 and a half. That's not a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Gives the Jets just 18 points. The Broncos at 25 and a half. You know, Bo Nix has been a popular start-sick question this week. Just looking at the players outperforming like Stafford. Stafford plays Baltimore. Bo Nix plays the Jets in London. Bo Nix has been, what's like the one word to describe? Good-ish.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Good-ish. I mean, he's had a couple of nice weeks, really one super week. Yeah. The pass attempts are, you know, they're pretty high up there on pace for almost 600. So you like that. But the, you know, the touchdowns, three games with one touchdown. That's why it hasn't turned it over as much. Good-ish.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Stafford or Bow-Nicks, I'm probably going to go Stafford. But, like, for my personal League of Record team, I have Bo Neck. I have both of these quarterbacks. I have Bo Nix and I have Justin Fields. Justin Fields has in our scoring format, he has literally been 30 plus points except for the one awful, awful week against Buffalo, and I will not be playing Justin Fields against the Denver. I was really curious which one you were going to say. I'm going to, I will take the matchup of the Jets who are 25th against quarterbacks at this
Starting point is 00:31:41 moment. Yeah, the defense of the Jets has not been good despite the fact that they were supposed to be a good defense, got a defensive mind of head coach. They have given up a lot of fantasy points. And when you look at Bo Nix, like his big Bada Boom week that he had, that was against the Cincinnati Bengals. It was like, okay, if you've got a little bit easier of a defense, we just saw him play well, but not fantasy great against a tough Philly defense. So, yeah, traveling over to London, playing against an easy defense. I think Bo Nix is a fine start. The question to me is like, do the passes go to Troy Franklin or Marvin Mims a little bit more? We, you know, we have seen with certain teams, ironically, with these two teams, with Sartan
Starting point is 00:32:20 and with Sauce Gardner, where the wide receiver twos usually are the guys that kind of have to step up in this game. So does that give you a little bit of concern with the Cortland Sutton side? I think Sutton's too good. And he just, he gets enough targets. He's at 22% target share on the season. So that that's not an elite number. But I mean, the week two was a disaster, but 118, 81, 99, like 99 yards. against Philly. They just, they, they found a way to get him the ball.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I would play Stafford over Fields if I had Stafford. I think the Fields' risk is there. He is eight. He's eighth in points per game. So he had the injured game, but he's eighth in points per game. Obviously missed that fourth quarter where apparently he does all of his work. That is correct. He has some ridiculous stats about the percentage of his, his fancy points in the fourth. But that's part of the, that's part of the terrifying prospect of playing him is you don't get a little bit of garbage time. Something goes wrong. you throw another pick and you've got a pretty bad game. Jason mentioned the argument
Starting point is 00:33:24 for Bruce Hall as the start of the week. J.K. Dobbins, you've got to keep playing. He scores all the time. And R.J. Harvey, I don't think you have to play at all. No, no. The last week was extremely disappointing. You had the two weeks ago where it was just the J.K. Dobbins, R.J. Harvey show. Harvey
Starting point is 00:33:40 got a bunch of targets. Had the nice, you know, touchdown at the end of the game. And then the snaps just the floor, the rug got pulled on us for Harvey for last week. So it's until we see multiple games in a row, I don't think you're going to be confident starting hard. Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to be game by game, not just a trend line. I think we want it to be a trend line where it's up
Starting point is 00:34:03 and up and up and up. And I believe that the truth is last week they were in a really close game against one of the best teams out there, the Super Bowl champions. They won the game and against a really tough Philadelphia Eagles team. It's not the rookie. Exactly. It's not the rookie. That was where it's like we need Dobbins on the field. We need that. But in this match, I was like let's test out Harvey a little bit. Yeah, Garrett Wilson, you play him. Mason Taylor, I think, is a start.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I think Mason Taylor is in there. Twelve targets last week. I don't think it's just chasing one week of production either. No, I'd play. He's had a couple. Because two weeks in a row. Yeah, he's had a couple weeks. It does scare me though with just the passing defense. How long will it take you if I say, name another pass catcher than for that team. Go.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Alan Lazzard? Okay. All right. You didn't say that. No, it was a question mark at the end of that. With joy. Evan Ingram has retired, right? Until you stop looking at him. Then he goes four for thirty through the touchdown.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah. No, thank you. Oh, gosh, the Cardinals are playing football. Yeah. Arizona. No, no, the vibes are dope, bro. Oh, my gosh. Hello, fellow kids.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Oh, my gosh. Gannon is the cringiest head coach of all. time. So he was asked a question at a press conference because What are the vibes like in the locker room after last week in the close losses? Yeah. Oh, it's great. The vibes are dope. Come on, man. I mean, you. We had to, I think he went on
Starting point is 00:35:35 to say something like, we had to start the meeting late because everyone was so happy or something. It's too dope. It's too dope to start on time. Things Jonathan Gannon should never say again. all things who's the character from Succession that he looks like
Starting point is 00:35:53 I don't remember but I just started yeah yeah it's Kindle Roy Yes Kendall Roy I see him a lot but I'm starting to see
Starting point is 00:36:00 Murr more and more A combination of Kindle Roy and Murr from impractical jokes Yeah All right enough personal
Starting point is 00:36:07 Which that Hey This might be a practical joke That makes so much sense If they were like Gannick What do I got to say Guys
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah You gotta say it's dope And he's like No, guys. No, no, no. It's the punishment. You got to do it. Say it's dope in that locker room.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I dare you. You're a grown man. Say it's dope. All right. The Cardinals are two and three. They take on the four and one Indianapolis Colts, Colts seven point home favorites. The overrunners 46 and a half.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And here we go. Tyler Murray didn't practice on Wednesday. We need an update on him. It could be Jacoby Brissette. The quote I saw from Marvin Harrison was kind of funny around Berset like something
Starting point is 00:36:51 that kind of alluded to like I'm excited if he gets that opportunity or something like that it kind of insinuated he was totally fine with the switch but because Marv doesn't care about anything not football anyway regardless of the starter at quarterback what do you do with Michael
Starting point is 00:37:07 Carter you play him right? Michael Carter the volume is there that the matchup is subpar here it's on the road against a very good Colts team who they are seventh right now against fancy running backs, but in this running back economy that you got to take that volume. The really nice thing, and obviously a quarterback change could affect this, but I would expect it to maybe even affect it more positively than negatively, but last week we saw Michael Carter
Starting point is 00:37:32 with five targets. And so in a game when you're going to be down, that is 23 opportunities for Michael Parker. You really want to make sure that you've got the past catching back, which at least last week gives us some indication that it would be Michael Carter. Despite the vibes being dope. Does DeMarcato receive any? No. He'll get work. No punishment. No punishment. Gannon already came out and said there's no punishment. Yeah. I don't think
Starting point is 00:37:57 he punishes him at all. I think he over-competates. Yeah. That's my worry. If there was, if DiMarcato had more catches than Michael Carter, he would not shock me. By the way, Marvin Harrison. Dope. League or his season high, 98 yards last week.
Starting point is 00:38:13 But I guess he's a player you play and you just hope it works out. Yeah, let's go to the Michael Pittman whisperer, Jason. Is he in this week? I think he is a fine flex option. He's someone that you just need to look at what other options you have available. The Cardinals
Starting point is 00:38:31 passing defense has been actually pretty good. Number one rated corner in the league is Will Johnson. Pittman is scored in four or five weeks. Yeah, Will Johnson has been really, really good. So I expect Will Johnson I don't think he's shadowing, but the primary receiver he'll be on more than anyone will be Michael Pittman. So I expect
Starting point is 00:38:51 Michael Pittman to have an average to subpar game, but obviously Jonathan Taylor, the running back one on the season, the running back one in our hearts, the running back one on our redraft yesterday against the Cardinals who aren't fantastic at stopping the run
Starting point is 00:39:07 at home, favor by a touchdown, you're good. I think the biggest question mark in this game is Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones has been pretty good. It seems like a start to me. Okay. Tyler Warren is as well. And then Josh Downs did have his best game in the year last week.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Eight targets for Josh Downs, six catches, PPR leagues. You can monitor it. It sounds like Alec Pierce will be back. So I wonder. He doesn't bother me with Josh Downs, though. Yeah, that's more of an Adonai Mitchell. Yeah. Or at this point, it's a, oh gosh.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Who took over for Adonai Mitchell last week, whose name is completely escaping me? Do you guys have it over there? Let me pull up the depth chart because it's not. Gosh, why can I not pull his name out of my head? Eugene Levy. No, no, it's not Eugene Levy. You can keep trying.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Anthony. Oh, no, no, no. Ashton Doolin. There it is. Ashton Doolin. I knew I wasn't going to find it. Yeah, Josh Downs is out there on the field all the time. And he had been a little banged up coming into the season. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:40:06 We'll see if he gets more snaps. I mean, yeah, it's 50% of snaps. He's the slot wide receiver. And if you have a, a, your good number. two back. I don't know if they're going to want to have more slot snaps or not. Chargers are three and two. They take on the Miami Dolphins who are one and four. Vegas line here. Chargers
Starting point is 00:40:26 minus four and a half. Over under is 44 and a half. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Andy's almost upset of the week. I didn't want to say it. I get it. But I was thinking it. I got bad news for you, Andy. I got bad news for you. Oh, you agree.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I agree. Yeah, that can be bad. That's bad news for me. Usually when I'm shocked, you do better. It only happens when you get to the line. The line is what it is and it hits you and this is one of them. The dolphins are at home. The chargers are reeling.
Starting point is 00:40:59 They're running game. Who knows if they have one this week? Their offense of line is trashed right now. And the dolphins have added their best weapon to the roster that wasn't there to start the year, which is Darren Waller. Yeah, and they're, yeah, I just think this game's going to be at a minimum very, very close. And that's a pretty heavy road favorite there at four and a half. The Chargers offense, you mentioned it, the offensive lines allowed the third most pressures in the entire league.
Starting point is 00:41:26 We'll see if the dolphins who don't normally get a lot of pressure on the quarterback can do that. But Justin Herbert, he's not top 20 fantasy points since week one. I'd play Stafford over Herbert. I'd play Fields over Herbert. Oh, I wouldn't go that. I don't blame you. It's a lot easier for fields to pick up the points.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I would just with the legs. My counter argument here is that Justin Herbert has been running a ton and in this game they're not going to have success. Isn't he not topping 20 fantasy points, Jason? Because they've had a great running game with Amarian Hampton, Naji before he
Starting point is 00:42:04 went down. There's been a lot of rushing touchdowns since Hampton's breakout. I don't expect those to be coming. 60 rushing yards. and last week for Justin Herbert. And 14 fancy points. Who was the quarterback 20? Well, he's turning the ball over.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I mean, that is happening every week right now. He's had four picks in the last three games. I just don't really want to play Herbert on the road with the offensive line and the running game that it is right now. Still good with the wideouts, though? Look, you really need to monitor the hamstring injury for Quentin Johnston. So that started getting flagged yesterday. He was limited in practice, couldn't practice in full.
Starting point is 00:42:41 which is another way of staying limited. I wonder how many ways I could have said that. He didn't play the whole practice. He partially practiced. Partially practiced. He played some of the practice. But Ladd-McConkie last week, McConkey ended up getting back into the end zone.
Starting point is 00:42:56 He was five for 39, though. I would have loved to have not, you know, that's not great. You know, his yardage the last four weeks, 48, 41, 11, and 39. The touchdown saved his week last week. otherwise he was going to be in the same boat he's been in. I feel okay with Keenan, Quentin Johnson, if he's healthy,
Starting point is 00:43:17 Ladd-McConkey in a pinch. It's so tough here with the running game because this is a great matchup. If you had Hampton, you would be drooling. Yeah, exactly. You want to play running backs against Miami. We don't know for sure whether it's Haskins or Vidal. Did you see the Harbaugh quote? I tweeted it out.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I think I did see it. Jim Harbaugh, quote, They both played well in the game, and I think their time to shine. Yes. Thank you, Jay. That's the way. That was the- I think they're time to shine?
Starting point is 00:43:46 They both played well in the game, and I think they're time to shine. No, no. Period stop? Is there a period stop at the end? There is a comma. I mean, I don't know. You didn't say the comma when you were reading. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I couldn't follow. So I didn't hear the quote. I just read it from a beat reporter. I like Vidalmore. You like Vidalmore. I do. I like Haskins more, but I, I understand, like, I'm not by any means bullish on. I like neither a lot.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah, that's, but like Kareem Hunt, who's playing him over these guys. Against Detroit. Yep. I mean, I'd call my shot on a Charter's guy. That's fine. This is why, this is why it was tough where we said, if you spend a lot of money on Fab, you're going to feel, you know, really committed to start. starting them. And you might need that first week this week to figure out how the depth chart
Starting point is 00:44:41 breaks down here. And neither guy is really good and they're playing behind a banged up offensive lines. So, yeah. Devon A-chan is a lock. Yeah. Waddle is a lock. Waller is a lock. Yeah, Miami's. I love teams like that. It's like just check out. You know, oh, do we want to play with Malik Washington? No, no, we don't. Oh, what about Ollie Gordon? Shut up. Just put the three guys in in all your lineups and I didn't fine. I didn't fully see what happened. there with Malik Washington, how does a man with a long reception of eight yards on the day end up four for zero? You run backwards. The screen game garbage. Yeah, he, so I watched, rewatched every snap of the Dolphins offense. And Malik Washington, he's very, very fast. He will
Starting point is 00:45:27 end up getting some screened open, long touchdown, probably a few times this year. But outside of those individual plays, it's not a very good wide receiver. He's not developed enough. You're talking about Malik? Yeah. Malik would have been interesting if Waller didn't emerge. Yeah, I agree with that. They would have had to integrate him.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah, they would need some of it. But Waller looks like their best weapon right now. All right. We'll take a break and jump into more matchups. All right, the New England Patriots fresh off the big victory last week against the bills. They're three and two. They go to New Orleans to take on the Saints who are one. and four, Vegas line, New England, minus three and a half.
Starting point is 00:46:06 The overrunners, 45 and a half. I will say this. There are bad teams in football, and the Saints are one of them. But they play harder than the other bad teams. Yeah, they really do. They really do. Like Spencer Rattler, they seem like they're having fun, too. He gives it a college try.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Every single time he's out there, they try hard. They play well for their coach. They make games, even if they lose them, they've been close. They were close against Arizona. They were close against San Francisco. They were close against Buffalo. And they're more fun to watch. watch, which maybe that's not relevant for NFL purposes, but for fantasy purposes, the pace of
Starting point is 00:46:40 play that Kellan Moore has always instituted is fast. You get more plays in, you get more points scored. That's, you know, that's why we've got Olave and Joanne Johnson in this kind of mediocre matchup from a bad team where you're like, yeah, you can start these guys because they're going to drop back and throw it a lot. Yeah, no, it's true. And they won last week, going for the winning street. What do you do with Alvin Kamara this week? You play him if you plays. Really? Personally, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I mean, the Patriot's defense is great against the run, but he's both. He's a receiver and a runner, and I. Kendra's snaps are going up. He just, he freaks me out. We saw the injury last week. Like, if you were watching that game and you watched it, Camara, it happened in the game, like the injury that I saw. So that's why you mentioned the Wednesday one.
Starting point is 00:47:26 If it's the same injury, he definitely got banged up in the game because he limped off the field. I don't know if that's why. Well, and he was playing 70, 80 percent of the snaps all. year and then this last week he played 56% of the snaps. I'm sure. I'm with Jason on the I would start him for sure if he was active but not with a high ceiling. He scares me.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Everybody on the Saints offense is their ceiling has been limited. Like Olavé's a player you can play but it's PPRs The ceiling is 15 points. Yeah and it's the same with Camara really is he's been kind of capped. They're not you know, they're trying hard
Starting point is 00:47:59 is all I'm saying. Joanne Johnson's your start of the week. I'm not going to say that that's an easy start no that's a very hard thing to do after a couple of down weeks he's a lower in start to me but like is it two down weeks or three two two um i've got him um ahead of the joku who just had a good game ahead of mason taylor who's got getting targets oh really um okay that's kind of where i would slot him in he's he's still not a high end start he's my tight in 10 right now on the week so nine other guys i'd play ahead of them but yeah i think he's I think he's going to get, you know, five receptions.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Drake May on the other side, your start of the week at quarterback, Jason. I am going to say something here on the show that I'm not proud of. Oh. You know, we've been together a long time, the Foot Clan, the producers, everybody here. I'm not proud of this. But I actively and intentionally, you know, I'm not going to blame ignorance here. I went out and I did it on purpose. I traded for Ramonre Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I traded for the fumbler, the great fumbler. and I did it because I think that his role is going to be extremely secure rest of season. I do not think I was never a Trayvion Henderson Truther. Right. When it came to the collegiate tape and where he was going to go in the draft and whether I thought he was a three down back. I fully respect the talent, the big playability,
Starting point is 00:49:26 he's electric, I love the dude. But I am convinced that this team is hyper committed to Remandre Stevenson, enough so to where I went and tried to get him. You know, Mike Vrable had an interview yesterday. Yeah, I saw that one. Did you watch that? Yeah. Where he's talking about the fact that like, and this, it's not, it wasn't showmanship.
Starting point is 00:49:45 He wasn't trying to give you a line about forgiving a guy that made a mistake. He basically was just saying, like, if I thought Romandre wasn't trying to improve in this area of his game and get better and we, then, then I, it would be one thing. But he's like, this is not just Ramandre's fault. This is, there's guys standing around that. weren't blocking players. You know, he was talking about the fact that basically this is a non-issue right now
Starting point is 00:50:08 for this team. And you can see it because he fumbled in the beginning of last week, which was his third fumble, and they immediately get him back in there for two red zone opportunities. To me, this is a great matchup for him Andre Stevenson against the Saints, and I think he's going to be the better player in this game. I think he's going to be a top 24 back rest of season. He'll get enough work. He is still
Starting point is 00:50:26 involved in the passing game. He is involved near the goal line when he gets there. I think Trayvion Henderson will get more and more workload, obviously with Antonio Gibson going down. These two guys are going to split, so it's kind of a, the arrow is pointed up on both. But Ramandre, I agree with you. He's secure. People kind of wanted to laugh about him, wanted to just punt him off a bridge, but the Patriots didn't, don't, and aren't going to. And the thing is his contract that he has, like he is a massive part of this franchise for at least
Starting point is 00:51:01 the next two years. He's got him, you know, he is this year. Next year they couldn't cut him unless they wanted to take on an $8 million dead cap. And there's no reason to cut him because he's a valuable player for them. So this is not someone that is not part of their plans. What's interesting is they are passing to the running back position extremely well in New England this year. Remandre has caught 13 of 14 targets. Trayvion's caught 15 of 16 targets. So both of those guys in the 90th percent, which is, you know, That's that Rashad White from a couple years ago number. They are throwing it to both players, and they're doing it well.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Henderson is still on that R.J. Harvey watch it situation, maybe a spot start, Mike. I would, I'm not going to disagree with any of the Stevenson stuff. What are you doing with Ramandre this week in terms of the start sit? His highest finish this year, he was at 26 in week four. I mean, he started, he was the name I was going to bring up for Camara. It was like, oh, really? I couldn't get there. They're very, very close in my. rankings. I don't, like I said, I don't disagree. It, you know, we're only what, what, five
Starting point is 00:52:08 weeks in. Yep. It reminds me of, um, to a lesser, to a degree, not apples to apples, but when Jamir Gibbs started and we were all so frustrated at the Detroit Lions of how do you spend that draft capital on a running back? And then you're just, you're not utilizing them a lot. You're splitting him. And then there, and then, Austin Eckler had a video where he came out and he's like I watched the Gibbs he's like he's there's things that he's doing wrong because he's still
Starting point is 00:52:39 new to the NFL and it's we know we we want these guys as just ready game day ready and they're kids coming from college and they're making a big transition into a professional game so it to me it just says Henderson's not where he needs to
Starting point is 00:52:55 be and until he gets there Ramandre will be disgustingly playable for fantasy football. That's the whole feeling right there. No one's rooting for Remandre, and they're rooting for Trayvion Henderson. Yeah, that's true. But Trayvion has not been some incredible runner so far,
Starting point is 00:53:14 even if he's making mistakes in the past protection. That hasn't happened. And it's hard for a 200-pound running back to be the guy. Yeah. It doesn't happen very often. I don't know if he will take over at this point now with what we've seen, but we saw his highest snapshot of the season, of his young. young career, 50% last week, nine opportunities. So he is, like, he is playable as like a double
Starting point is 00:53:38 flex. Yeah, and five weeks in to any of these rookie careers that you haven't seen it yet. Like, it's still kind of, just like you said, 43% of the snaps were the first month of, of Jemir Gibbs' career. It's, it's a good argument, but it's also there's players like Quentin John Judkins. You want them to break out immediately. Oh, yeah. I mean, you just see it instantaneously, is all I'm saying. So it's a tough balance. I mean, where do you think he gets to this year, Jay? You think at any point this year you're going to want to start Trayvion over Romandre?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah, I think there will be a point in this season where they are both getting enough work where the explosive plays will be on the Henderson side. Hunter Henry, I feel very comfortable still playing him because he's out there a lot. He is the, it has been different. It's been different since Stefan Diggs, like, was all of a sudden he. Field? What was it? Stefan,
Starting point is 00:54:31 what's that all about? After I dropped you. You know, it takes time. Yeah. Would you play Henry or no? I'm okay with it. But it,
Starting point is 00:54:41 Stefan Diggs is just, he is taking all the targets. Henry or Joan Johnson? Weird. I'd play, oh. I think that Joanne is a safer guy to get you like six to seven, but where Henry can be 10 plus or zero.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Cleveland's one and four. They take on the Pittsburgh Steelers. three and one in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh off the by. So you've got two weeks of resting and preparation for Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh at home, a defense that has been sacking the living crap out of the opposing quarterback, the last couple of games. Dylan Gabriel, you are now the next man up. I think quarterback 41 for the Browns in the last.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Oh, there's starters. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's going to go how we expect. Pittsburgh minus five and a half. The overrunner is 37 and a half. Cleveland's a great defense. You want to respect that. I would think that if Cleveland's defense wasn't what it was, Pittsburgh would be favored by a lot more than five and a half. Can they slow down, you know, Aaron Rogers enough to make this a close game? It's possible. It definitely is. I think they can. Their defense is great. And I don't look at the Pittsburgh Steelers' offense as something anywhere near unstoppable. No, it could be close.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I think that if the Browns win, it'll be from, you know, a sack, fumble returned in a game that, you know, doesn't hit 25 total points in the game. Yeah, the overrunner's 37 and a half, if I didn't say that. You do. Oh, Blarf. That's 16 points for Cleveland, 21 for Pittsburgh, who will get Jalen Warren back. Full practice for Warren. The Kenneth Gainwell experience while brief was amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:24 But Jailen Warren's back in there. D.K. Metcalfe, I haven't been happy with the. target totals yet. I don't know if I'm going to be. I'm surprised by him too. It's so strange. So, D.K. McHF. feels a little bit like Marv. Is at a 21% target share.
Starting point is 00:56:39 You sent picks and gave him the bag. And you're giving him 21% of the targets. That is like, that's unacceptable football management. It's unacceptable and yet completely in line with Arthur Smith and the willingness to use
Starting point is 00:56:56 backs. And tight-ins. They have two valuable tight-ins. They have two pass-catching running backs. And it's just it's Arthur Smith, man. Sure. It's gross. Are you playing Jalen Warren? Who looked really, really good, but he's coming off of an injury. Let's just assume he plays. He was a full participant on Wednesday, and he is the actual one that had the arrow pointed up.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Right. So if he's starting, and he was so good beforehand, but you're playing against the Cleveland Browns who are completely shutting down any running back they've faced. Well, Jalen Warren had 24 opportunities before he got hurt. Jason, we talked about Scataboo's touches. Tyrone Tracy, Kenny Gainwell, which of those two would you play? Jailen Warren in this matchup against the Cleveland defense while he's at home, or tonight, scataboo? Man, that's really tough.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I lean the scatibu side simply because while we saw a lot of opportunities for Jailen Warren, I don't know if after the game we saw from Kenneth Gainwell, mixed with him with Jailen Warren coming off of injury. I don't expect him to just be that dude that he was a couple weeks ago. 80% snaps. Exactly. I don't think that's going to happen this game against the Browns. I probably agree with you on that one. Is there any pass catcher you can start from the Browns? You can dart throw the tight ends. Yeah, sure. It's an area where the Steelers are struggling. Gabriel did well. In terms of service, if you're going to play them. Yeah. You know what you're signing up for. Is there refunds? No. No, no refunds. No refunds. It's pretty
Starting point is 00:58:27 much a scratcher. But yeah, I mean, last week, targeting the tight ends. But you could scratch it and then a fist just comes through and punches you in the face. Gabriel was 10 of 13 for 80 yards and two touchdowns targeting the tight ends. So it's a position that at least we know he likes. Yeah, that was against Minnesota last week. Judkins is the one that you auto start. Yeah, you do. It always works out for you with Judkins. He's just, he's just really, really good. Yeah. You watch him play. It's like, it took like two snaps. that's the wild thing. Two snaps for you to know that Judkins was way better
Starting point is 00:59:02 in everything that they had. Do you guys remember Dylan Samson? No, no, no, I don't. Neither do the Browns. Dallas is two, two, and one, taking on the Carolina Panthers who are now two and three. The Vegas line, Dallas on the road, minus three over under 49 and a half.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I like that. I like that, Dak. Yep, you play him. George Pickens, uh-huh. Absolutely. Jake Ferguson, the number one tight end in fantasy. Yep. Against the 31st rank.
Starting point is 00:59:27 team against fantasy tight ends? Yeah, he can't be a start of the week because he's just like, you know, you always got to play him now. But Dak, Javonte, Pickens, Ferguson, sign out. Yeah, well, and then it's the, what do you do? Okay, hold up. So do you realize, I just want to point this out. Right now on the season, Dak is the quarterback three.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Right now on the season, Giovante Williams is the running back four. Yeah, okay. Right now, George Pickens is the wide receiver five. Yes. And Joanne is the tight end one. Jake Ferguson is the tight end one. or Jake Ferguson is the tight-in-one. Like, their top five in all four positions.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And let's give us. That's because their defense is so bad. Give a round of applause to the defense. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Guy. Jerry Jones. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Yes. Jerry Jones. I love this defense. Everyone give a thumbs up to Jerry Jones. Whoa, careful. Oh, is this my thumb? It's really, look, I've given. Mike.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I've given thumbs up to people. It's just, it's a confusing thing to do. It's hard to know which digit. And then you want to point. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yep. $250,000. Is that my middle finger or is that my thumb?
Starting point is 01:00:31 I don't know. I'm too old. But I'm a general manager. Yeah, but also I can make really, really good decisions. Well, Bryce was your stream of the week. This week, Carolina, they are at home. They've had stretches where they've looked okay, stretches where they've looked real bad.
Starting point is 01:00:45 But you've got starts of the week throughout this game. Rico Dowdell, Tett McMillan, brought them both up. I don't think you'd go anywhere else. I mean, last week, you know, there were some whispers. Maybe Tommy Trimble does something. thing. He was Tommy terrible. It was not good. He had one catch so you don't do that. And Xavier Legatta
Starting point is 01:01:01 I got a bunch of tweets because he had a you know, he had a nice catch. It was a nice catch on a touchdown. Very, very good. 24 yard touchdown. That is the only catch of the week? No, he had one other one for seven yards. Okay. So this is, you know, I mean, I still hope the man develops into some. It's just
Starting point is 01:01:17 he won't. And there you go. There's that matchup. Seattle's three and two taking on Jacksonville. It seems like a fun game 47 and a half point over under Jacksonville minus one and a half at home. Both teams in play point totals, 23, 24 and a half. You know, Sam Darnold right now, leading the NFL in yards per attempt. What a story.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah, he looks great, and JSNN looks like his Pooka Nakuwa. You know what I mean? It's his go-to. Yeah. Can count on him at every turn. You have explosive play potential in Tori Horton every week. You've got Cooper Cup there to be your solid veteran receiver. Barner and Arroyo weapons in the passing game.
Starting point is 01:01:58 It's looked very coherent. I mean, they are, you know, a Baker-Mayfield game-winning drive, which every team seems to be one of those away from a win. But they could be four-on-one right now, playing great on the offensive side, a good defense, very impressive altogether. And then Jacksonville, you can't say enough about their defense and how they've played.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And while not always looking perfect on offense, still winning ball games, four-and-one. These are two fun teams. These are two really, really fun teams. It was favored by a point and a half. I think Seattle's been bet a lot. Yeah, I think I love that for Seattle. This is a, there's a fun game.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Travis E.T.N. has looked very good. Bachel Tutin has taken a step or two backwards, and he is. He didn't get his toot. No, he didn't. Are we done? He needs to eat some more beans. But yeah, I mean, you can confidently start E.T.N. I think rest of season, he looks like he is.
Starting point is 01:02:55 established. They got rid of tank. Sure. And we thought it was going to be a 50-50 time split with ETN and Tutin. Are you going to jump in with Travis Hunter with the Brenton Strange injury and the words of optimism that he will receive more work? No, he's an extremely talented
Starting point is 01:03:11 wide receiver and athlete and I'm fine if you need a dart throw. I put him in my lineup last week. He's in my prize picks tomorrow. Oh, there you go. But I tease it. But it really is, to me, it's a dart throw. I don't think he is.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yet involved enough. I would go Josh Downs. I think I'd go Hunter. I'm feeling all right about Hunter in this one. And what about AJ Barner, who quietly has been in the top 10, three of five weeks. Are all those touchdowns? Not last week. Seven for 53 with two of them.
Starting point is 01:03:44 With two to, okay. But seven for 53. Sure, sure, sure. I'm just saying all of the weeks where he had a good fantasy output, he had touchdowns. That is absolutely true. Yeah, yeah, he's in that, you know, Kate Otton category. Just keep an eye on it. I feel like I would rather play someone that I'm confident in the targets like Kate
Starting point is 01:04:04 Otten and not necessarily requiring the touchdown. But I'm definitely keeping an eye on. I mean, he's a young tight end who is looking good. There's officially too many tight ends in this weird category. There really are. Because you can make a kind of little case for almost every single team's tight end, and it's not one will make you feel very good unless you have a big guy. E.10, you talked about Brian.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Thomas, though, five receptions in just one of the five games. So the reception totals haven't been there. To me, he is still a trade-forward candidate. I'm going to keep him in that category. I hope some teams are getting impatient and will trade him. He is definitely, as he falls off a lot of people's trade-for target lists, that is when he becomes actually available if you want to trade for him. It's been a rough ride.
Starting point is 01:04:52 It has. You know, he's looked okay. We finally hit 10 points. Yeah, he did finally hit 10 points. But, you know, 80 yards. I agree with you, Andy. I would go after him. And Britain Strange is on IR, so we don't have that option anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:08 The Rams are 3 and 2. They take on the Baltimore Ravens who are failing each and every week right now. They've been the wildest story of football because it seemed, it just seemed automatic. They just win. That's just what they do. The Rams favored those seven and a half point road favorites overrunners, 44 and a half. Lamar Jackson unlikely to play so we can kind of blitz this game.
Starting point is 01:05:32 The Ravens are wild because the Rams are number two against fantasy running backs right now. Derek Henry in games that Baltimore does not lead or win is pretty much a disaster. Are you making the start-sit decision with him this week? You are. Yeah, he is not a must start. Remandre Stevenson or Derek Henry? I mean that that one, I don't. I have enough self-respect of two playing.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Okay. Trayvion Henderson or Derek Henry? I think I might go I might go Henderson. Cam Scadaboo or Derek Henry. I think I'd play Scadaboo. Oh my gosh. Michael Carter or Derek Henry.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Michael Carter, I think. How low can your voice get? Real low. Zave Flowers has been limited with his shoulder injury. Do you have any past catching confidence without Lamar there, Mike? No. I was fine with Cooper Rush. Yeah, that was clearly.
Starting point is 01:06:22 not great. Zayflowers ended up okay by the end of that game, but they, the injury combined with who is the quarterback, Zayflowers is, stay away. He's a scary player. There's a world where you just don't want to play any Raven this week. Yeah, I mean, if I were to play a Raven, it would be Zay Flowers. As far as like, I agree with that. I think he. Of the past catchers? He, I'm saying, even with Henry. I'm saying he would cycle in among wide receivers higher than Derek Henry would cycle in among. What if you had a flex spot and you had to start one of
Starting point is 01:06:52 the two. I would feel more confident in Zayflowers. I expect the Rams to be up. I think that the Ravens are going to have to throw the ball. I'm going to stick on the slightly more optimistic around Henry side of things. He still managed to get into the end zone last week in spite of a awful, awful game. They'll give him the touches, so I'm going to just lean on that. Stafford is my start of the week for the Rams. You play Kyron, you play Puka, you play Devante Adams. Yep. This is an easy one. Yes, sir. There aren't question marks there. I will say this, Tyler Higby, didn't practice, been banged up. Ferguson, I think got into the end last week. Just keep an eye on him. Terrence Ferguson is a prospect tight end, a draft pick
Starting point is 01:07:32 that we really liked the film on. The team actively went out and really looked at him as a future past catching tight end. I'm not saying to do it. I'm just saying deeper leagues, dynasty leagues, make sure he's not sitting there. Yeah, he had a sick catch last week. That was fantasy forecast presented by prize picks, joined millions of users, and sign up for America's number one fantasy sports app, use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups when you play $5. More matchups on tomorrow's show
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