Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Starts of the Week + Week 9 Breakdown, Awww Shucks! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/30

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Oct 30, 2025. It’s football time! Matchup previews and Week 9 start/sit decisions on today’s episode! Plus, Starts of the Week, injury updates, and more! Get prepped and set your fantasy football lineups for Week 9. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(08:50) NFL News(16:05) Starts of the Week(16:15) QB Starts of the Week(21:00) RB Starts of the Week(24:00) WR Starts of the Week(26:35) TE Starts of the Week(32:55) Fantasy Forecast(34:00) Bears at Bengals(39:15) Vikings at Lions(45:00) Panthers at Packers(50:10) Chargers at Titans(01:00:05) Falcons at Patriots(01:04:25) 49ers at GiantsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. It's football time. That was more staccato than usual. I liked it. We're at the point of the year where I don't know what's going to happen, but I can't keep doing it the same way. Yeah, it makes sense.

Thursday, October 30th. Welcome in one and all the fantasy footballers podcast. Mike, the fantasy hitman, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Ducer's Alley. got an upgrade today. Full of deusers. Full of deusers. Well, not completely full. Yeah. That's why that's why you got the big deucer. You got the old deuser and then the young one's not here today. Thank goodness. And we've got a busy show. We've got starts of the week. Did you say the big deucer? Yeah. He did. He did. No. He's working on that, Andy. I, you know what? I genuinely just meant it like,

Because it's kind of, the primary, like the main producer. Yeah, like it's like, it's kind of a joke, right? It's Ducer's Alley. Right. Producers, not a dump. Yeah. But I kind of meant it in the dump context. Oh, so it's like a big.

Not the scale size. I promise Jeremy takes bigger dumps than Papa Josh. He told, he once told me he's like a four time a day guy. Yeah, there's. Yeah. Nobody's more regular. Each time. Each time up out of the bowl.

And yet he doesn't have the toilet. That part's not true. up out of the bowl you have to clarify like people are like they might think that's true it's called a joke if anybody out there has been lifted out of their toilet by their

excrement. Randy Mars style hot hot hot hot hot if that happens I want to know I don't want a picture I just want to know this is the worst start to a show we got a long show today boys let's let's get into it Mike is just

yeah because I was like i had i got a i got a text about some leaks that were happening at my house and so then i like i just heard big deucer and it brought me back into the show and i'd so i didn't know what was happening okay yeah that's uh that's what was happening we have starts of the week the fantasy forecast NFL news to cover and dumps that come up out of the water do you want to remind us when the trade deadline is um either of you have that right in front of you i believe it's too week. Tuesday. I want to say, no, not, not, yeah, let's just look it up. It's, it's quickly

approaching. I know that there's some rumors about the Patriots acquiring a running back. Tuesday, November 4th. It's this Tuesday. Which has to destroy Mike's heart and soul. There are, I already knew they were dumb, so. Yeah. The New England Patriots is going to get a running back. Hold on. They're dumb. Yeah. They drafted the guy you love in Trayton Henderson. Oh, yeah. So were they dumb to draft that guy. No, they're dumb because of the mismanagement. Do you see the flaw in the logic, though? They can't be both. Yeah, you can't be... Of course you can be both. You can go get something and not know how to use it.

So you're saying that their GM is smart and their head coach is stupid. Correct. I think it might be the opposite. And what's their record? Oh, not undefeated. Yeah, I mean... Just because you're winning games doesn't mean you can't be better. So do you, I mean, from a, we're a fantasy football show. Yeah. Do you genuinely believe that they're doing the wrong thing? Yes, I genuinely do. So when he fumbles on the goal line, that was the right thing?

Okay, so Romandre hasn't done that multiple times this year? I'm not defending Remandre. No. You're defending Trayvion. My point for Henderson is we haven't had a chance to truly see, like, give him real work, find out what happens. I would agree with, that's what I mean. I do agree with you. Now, obviously, from a fantasy football context, I very much want Trayvion to be unleashed to be given a ton of work. I would agree with you that if they were to give him... 10 for 75 against the Cleveland Browns, that's not exciting. If they were to give him 60, 70% of the workload, give him a lot of opportunities a game, I think they would be more productive in a yardage standpoint. It would be good for their offense. However, as much as I have...

hate to admit it, hate to ever talk about it. There are the truths to the old world coaching, you know, defense, run game, slow the ball down. Remandre slows the ball down. Yeah, I mean, clock management, pass protection, all that crap is real. And it's like, I don't know, I don't know how many drives they might have been more explosive and how many drives might have ended in a sack or ended in something that, you know, is, is a worse play than the explosive nature

when Trayvion Henderson has ball in his hands. There's a lot that goes into it, right? And generally, what we can guarantee is that 99.9% of the time, if a superstar exists, they're playing football. They're getting a ton of snaps. Like, Ken Walker's another example. If Ken Walker was doing everything he was supposed to do,

he would be playing a ton. He's just not. Perhaps. I mean, we're like five years in on that one. I mean, the NFL evaluates by so many different metrics that go beyond, are you efficient? Otherwise, Gus Edwards, you know, what, every seven a carry for five years in Baltimore? I mean, even the JCP thing is actually a good example of this because they didn't give JCP all the work. They gave Chris Rodriguez and Jeremy McNichols a bunch of work.

And everybody yelled at Washington. They're just like, what are you doing? This is stupid. This is your best player. You got to play them. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

Finally, they're like, okay, we'll do it. it, they get nothing. He was super efficient before they gave him everything. They get nothing now. It's just, it's frustrating. And we all want to see, I love Trayvion. The person, the player, the man. Maybe what we actually want is we just want Trayvion Henderson to be awesome. Why don't you just do that?

I want an opportunity. That's what I want. I believe he is good. I have not, I have not. What's an opportunity though? An opportunity means 15 touches. Yes. That's what an opportunity.

Fifteen touches. Give him real targets. I think they tried to do this a little bit. this year. Oh, man, I don't, I don't remember them giving him enough work at all. He's fumbled. Remandre is fumbled. They have more trust in Romandre right now. I mean, that was his first. And then they're going to add a running verse. That was his first fumble of the year. So, eight weeks in. Oh, I was thinking of Gibson, I guess. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wasn't it Trayvon that had never fumbled in college? Yes. Yeah. Oh, boy. And there's a slap in our faces. Yes. Yes. A lot of the reason, it's super ironic because a lot of the reasons Mike was so in on Trayon

this year. We're actually targeting what has happened. Yeah, pass protection and ball security and pass protection to hallmarks. And you knew you're like, Rabel cares about these things. And then somehow not with him. That's the part that's for us, like I trust,

I really do trust Mike Grable. Me too, man. I trust them tremendously. There's stuff happening at practice that makes him literally play another five minute back and now at the trade deadline. They're looking to get another running back. Yeah, something is happening. And I trust variable. Yeah, there's not enough. There's not enough.

But that does not mean that Trayvion Henderson is not an explosive running back. Who would be great if he gets opportunity. Would you trade a second under all conditions to go get him in a dynasty league? Yes. I would, yes, currently. Would you trade a first, a late first? I don't think. Yeah, probably would.

Would you rather have Caleb Johnson or Trayvion Henderson in a dynasty league? Henderson. Trayvion. Okay. Just curious. Didn't expect this conversation to go this way. Yeah. We want to get back to toilets.

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And you can learn more about that at join the foot.com. Let's talk some news. News and Notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Oh, Shucks. What? Oh, Tyler Shuck is getting the start. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. Hit the button. I'm not calling this one. Oh, well, I didn't think they would revolt. I wanted just a grunk busted, but okay. You got fully booed. Tyler Shuck's going to start for the Saints.

Honestly, this isn't a boo for me. This is a, okay, Spencer Rattler, you gave him another real chance, and it's looking like it won't get to the level that you need. So try out the second round pick. The question is going to be, what does this do for the weapons? What does this do for Camara and Olavé? That's it. Right.

And my guess is that it's very, very neutral, just a sideways step to where you're still going to have a lot of targets and not a lot of production. the hope is that this change and potentially a secure trade, which has been rumored or Shaheed. Yeah, I was like, what are you talking about? You know, hopefully this is a positive. There's, you know, they're able to move the ball more. What we do know is that Kellan Moore pushes the pace. So the opportunity for fantasy goodness with the Saints is definitely there.

If Shuck has it, this will be fantastic for fantasy, but more than like. it's a sideways neutral step. It is good if you, I think there's two players that I kind of bend opposite directions on. I think it's probably negative for Olavee. I don't know if your volume can go up from there.

You can't go up. I think they're going to manage Shuck differently than Rattler. It could be good for Kamara in the fact that Derek Carr's magic way of moving the football. He understood the assignment, right? It was check the ball down to Alvin Camara over and over and over again.

maybe Shuck can get back to that. We don't have the targets that Camara needs to be successful right now. We don't know his tendencies. Right. So, I'm with Jason. I think it'll just be sideways. Terry McLaren. This is a bummer, man.

The commander's wide receiver who just came back from a quad injury, just re-heard his quad. And Jaden Daniels is a full practice. It's the Grandpa Simpson Giff. You know, you watched it. Comes in, hangs a hat. You watched that game, and there were just a ton of mistakes by non-Terry McClorin wide receivers.

I mean, Jalen Lane had multiple chances to get first downs. He couldn't do it. They were driving on the first drive of the game. You think the momentum's all in their favor. And Debo just lets it bang off his face mask out into the sky for an interception. They need Terry McLauran back. He's not been the same fantasy quarterback without him. No, he has not.

And Terry McLaren in his short, short, stint back healthy was really good. Went and got an awesome touchdown and was like, oh, and then re-agravated. This was one we were waiting on. We didn't know because the game was, you know, they were losing by a lot. Maybe he didn't come back in. The fact that he's ruled out already for this week, and it's a reaggravation of an existing quad injury, makes me feel like he's, like, I wonder if he's dropable. And I don't want to, I don't want to overstate it because they're, this news is not that they're putting them on the IR. If they put them on the IR, then I would say dropable.

You got six weeks left before playoffs or whatever. but it's just worrisome going forward i don't know three or four i think he missed three or four games and it's like if you are he missed four so is he missing four again because of a re-aggravation because four didn't get it done in four weeks is their buy week so if he misses three more and then has a buy and comes back then he would be there for the start of the fantasy you know who they play in the fantasy championship week uh it's a team you really like yeah oh

team you really like. I don't think you don't drop. You can't drop that. You can't drop that. They're playing against Dallas? Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, they're playing against Dallas.

Should probably be trying to line up your starts against Dallas in the fantasy playoffs. Yes. I mean, when you hear my start of the week today, there's only one circumstance that is even permissible. Yeah, I know. And it's disgusting. And it's acceptable. We got Minnesota, the Chargers, and Washington. All right.

If you got that by week, if you got that by week, if you're one of the best a lot of leagues out there have, you know, buy week for the first two teams. Oh, man. Mike is not going to get to play Jefferson if he's got the buy. Oh, no. Yeah, I know. Pooka Nakua Limited in Wednesday's practice. I saw some video. He looked good. Marvin Mims

didn't practice with the Broncos. Big names for the matchups we're getting into today. Drake London returning to a limited practice. Ramondre didn't practice with a toe injury. The time has been now for seven weeks. I mean, it seems like this is the week where either they trade for a running back and put just a nail in the coffin on Trayvion Henderson or Trayvon Henderson is pretty much forced into getting the opportunities. Yeah, right, it's Terrell Jennings time. By the only reason that we kind of debate what was going on, I want to be very clear.

I am actively rooting for Trayvon Henderson to succeed. I am just not willing to fall on the like the coach is dumb, the team is dumb. I'm putting it all on Trayvion to earn the spot. I'm saying go do that. Go earn this spot and dominate, and that's what I'm rooting for. That's what I want from him. It might be this week. I want it from Harvey.

I want it from any of these young players. I want them to go earn it. Say Caleb. I want Caleb to do it. Thank you. I don't. Jalen Warren for life. Well, yeah, you make sense.

Yeah, Jailen Warren is vastly better than Romandre Stevenson. It sucks because last year, I was very answer. anti-Jalen Warren on the on the starting him because he was never hitting 10 fantasy points but I and I love Caleb Johnson so I'm kind of anti Jalen Warren this year but dude I love Jalen Warren that guy that guy's a dog Jalen Warren loves 10 fantasy points this year. He is such a smart fantasy football player like everything he does literally every move on every play, every decision and pass protection, every cut. It's just the right move. I adore that guy. Josh Downs didn't practice. Now it's a hip injury for Josh Downs. And it is a juicy matchup this

week. Yeah. If Downs is fully out, I would say that like honorary start of Alec Pierce, like spot start. Sure. And then no one practice for the bears. They just the wide receiver's hip, heel, groin, concussion. beans, beans, potatoes. That would be DJ more Roma Dunes at Luther Bird and DeAndre Swift. Yeah. Well, I will say this. My wide receiver start of the week and Mike's tight end start of the week

will make a lot of sense here in a second. That was news and note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance, quotes today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company, affiliates, and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. It is time for starts.

Starts of the week. Presented by U.S. Bank. All right, Mike, why don't you kick it off? All right, my quarterback, we're going with Daniel Jones. He's been a top 12 quarterback in six of eight weeks. We know about the offense, third and completion percentage, fifth, and pass the rating fourth and fantasy points per dropback. And they're against the Steelers who started off terrible, tricked us into thinking perhaps they are getting it back. back going and then they said

no we got you that was a trick we are bad we got you we are terrible they are dead last and passing yards allowed in the NFL right now 273 and they're on page for the giving up the eighth most of all time so Daniel Jones in a great spot I will follow that up I almost went with Daniel Jones I wanted to go a little deeper at the quarterback position today just for the sake of pain

Kyler Murray I couldn't do it Kyler Murray against the Dallas Cowboys If you need a bucket Yes Oh Jason We'll get you a bucket We'll get you a little Yeah

Yeah it's not good 54 and a half point over under In a dome Do you want to see the Smith On this one? Yeah let's do it All right I'll just give you Steel Underpants

What a world What a dumb dumb world That Kyler Murray We have to put on steel underpants for This is the matchup, right? I mean, the Cardinals' offense overall on the season, they have had some games recently. And they, you know, Marvin Harrison is looking better than he had looked.

You can pick Kyler up off of waivers. This is the perfect spot start if you're a Baker manager. If you're a Jalen Hertz manager, they're going into the buy. If you're planning on flacko and you feel uncomfortable about the shoulder, I think Kyler is a good pivot there. You might throw up Jason, but this is a player who, we've seen it right we've seen greatness from him before fantasy greatness yes actual fantasy production in a while it has been a while was he his sophomore year he was like

quarterback let's see we're talking we're talking a uh no 20 I'm not you're right Andy I think he is very playable however just to dunk a little bit more we have no 20 point games from Kyler we have the highest finish of the week at 16 which he has done Kyle has been the quarterback 16, 3 times, and 22 twice. That's what he's done. Yeah. It's been bad. This is nothing to do with Kyler.

This is not a take where you're saying Kyler is good or the Arizona Cardinals are good. This is you just saying if there is a quarterback on a week that plays the Dallas Cowboys, you should probably play. I agree. Yeah. And it's a very controlled environment. It's a defense that you can beat. It's not hard to go 202. and he adds rushing floor.

Jeremy, just give him the water. Nice. Andy needed some more. Al Borland was hiding in the shadows here. I just told him to smuggle me some water. I know you're like, you're trained in. He's just trying to be. He's trained in theater where it's like you can't,

you're not allowed to be seen. You can't break in. No one cares. Just give up the one. The instructions were to smuggle water. I will say. That is true. I will say, you did an expert job of getting the cup out.

Right. Mike was talking. No one knew. If Mike didn't open his mouth, you would have succeeded. I talked extra long for him to do that. Yeah. Yeah, you did. All right, I'm going to talk about my start of the week because I can't freaking stand Kyler Murray and I want to not talk about him. My start of the week

is Jordan Love. Oh, man. Versus Carolina. I know. We're going back. We're going back. Look, Andy, was spot on with Jordan Love being a start of the week last week. And I'm going to stay with it. What an incredible turn of events here. I know. So my argument against Jordan Love has really been Josh Jacobs.

Like Josh Jacobs as a running back has been getting so many touchdowns. If it wasn't for Jonathan Taylor being outlandishly high in rushing touchdowns, more would be made. But he's banged up. Like I don't know how long until Josh Jacobs gets back to full utilization, but it seems like they are monitoring him. He's not by any means a bad play. But they need Jordan Love. Christian Watson back helps. And if you look at, look, they're 13.5 point home favorites against Carolina.

and Carolina right now, I mean, they're not great. Love, on a per dropback basis has been outstanding. He's third and adjusted completion percentage. He's fifth in yards per attempt. He's fifth in passer rating. It's just been when they get around the goal line, it's been Josh Jacobs. That's how they score touchdown. So for fantasy.

But right now with Josh Jacobs being banged up and the expected points that Green Bay is going to have, I think Jordan loves a good play. My running back start is going to be Bam Knight Against the Dallas Cowboys Bam! Look, we get one more week before Trey Benson's eligible. We're not sure if he's going to be ready

next week or not. I would say he's probably not, but he is eligible. And this is just, it's trying to follow the tea leaves of what's going on with the team of running backs against Dallas. We love it.

Michael Carter was released and then re-added to the practice squad. We got, make sure you're following the reports of if there's any news that Michael Carter is going to regain any type of position. But BAM has been the more productive of the running backs for Arizona for fantasy football. And this is a great spot. I'm going Kamani Vidal, Sassoon against Tennessee.

It's so silky. He's been awesome over the last three weeks with Nohampton. He has been silky smooth. He has been everything the truthers wanted him to be. He's doing it right now. Just one of those guys that just earns it. You know, he just earned the spot. Yeah. He just earned it with four running backs going down ahead of him.

He earned it with the opportunities. Hey, if Hendo could do that this week, I will take it. Yeah, he's averaged 20 opportunities a game, 69% of the snaps, 15.3 fantasy points per game. Chargers, heavy road favorites. Titans rush defense has been a constant punching bag in fantasy. Go with Kamani Vidal this week. I'm going to go with Travis E.T.N., which is always a scary start, but I think he is good this week. He's playing in a dome in Las Vegas against the Raiders.

It's been me for E.TN. We're going near a month since he got off to such a hot start. However, the last three games have been really, really tough matchups when it comes to rush defenses. Kansas City, Seattle, and the Rams are really good rush defenses. Trevor Lawrence is not a quarterback that's going to overcome a great defense. The Raiders, they're not a great defense. They have a great defensive player. and you might look at their rush defense and say,

oh, right now, no running back one has surpassed 66 rushing yards on them, but that's fine because Travis E.TN is getting involved in the receiving game. He's had a ton of targets this year. And really, when you look at who the Raiders have played and their game scripts, like over the last six weeks, the Raiders are 26 and schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to running backs. I don't think this is a scary matchup. And the workload, you can't just look at the raw data of, like, carries and targets. Look at the percentage of running back carries and the percentage of running

back targets. It has been ETN's show. You might look and be like, oh, he's really going down in utilization. He's not at all. It's just their games haven't gone well for them in tough matchups, and they've had to throw the ball more. So I think this is a good start to get ETM back in your lineup. All right. We'll take a quick break and come back with our wide receiver tight-in starts. All right, wide receiver time, Mike. My wide receiver start. I mean, I kind of go back and forth on this guy,

but this is a week that I want him in the lineup for sure. Is D.K. Metcalfe against the Indianapolis Colts. You know, it's been a weird season, but he's scoring a lot. The targets are not always there. But I think this is a matchup where they may have to target him more. To keep up with the Colts, you've got to score. opponents are throwing 66% of the time against the Indianapolis Colts. It's the second highest in the NFL because the Colts put up so many points.

And I think that they will not struggle to score points on the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense. And so facto, we got D.K. Metcalf here as a good start with some high volume. I'm hoping for not just the bull crap. We get four targets and maybe we get a touchdown. I want to give the confidence play to Jalen Waddle this week against the Baltimore Ravens. He's been really good in three of the four games where Tyreek has been gone. Wide Receiver 4, 17, and 4. Last week against Atlanta, it was great.

He is a must start. This is a Thursday night football start. And the Ravens, we know this story. They're 29th and Schedule Adjusted Fantasy Points to Wide Receivers. I can't imagine a game where Jalen Waddle is not getting a significant amount of target share. Oh, injuries as well. I was trying to predict. No, I mean, he'll limp off three or four times and then limp back on.

my wide receiver start of the week Michael, yeah, Michael Pittman Jr. This makes me so happy. Oh, it makes, this is, this is bored. I mean, to your credit, this is borderline not even a start of the week. Well, yeah, he's the wide receiver seven on the season right now. Did you guys realize that?

Yeah, yeah, because we set it on the show. Oh, okay, cool. I wasn't listening. I mean, he's been the number one target for the number one offense. And you don't ask for much more than that. Mike, you brought up how bad Pittsburgh's defense has been on some of the pump-fake stuff with your Daniel Jones start. Josh Downs is hurt. So Michael Pittman is one of those guys where I think people are waiting for it to stop.

And I don't think it's Michael Pittman. The city is strong. Yeah, they built that city with huge walls. What's the taxes like in that city? No taxes. No taxes? In Petty City? I don't know like you guys have paid a lot of taxes over the years.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on a year-by-year basis. We had to rebuild the city. Yeah, and we rebuilt it with former taxes. Now we're just living in luxury. Now you're a tax-free environment. Absolutely. Okay. Just clarifying the economics. No, it's important. All right.

Free internet. Free internet. I'm going with Colston Loveland, aka apparently Mr. Bigglesworth. Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah. You missed that when you missed that when you were gone. I missed the show and you named him Mr. Biggles.

We, to be fair, Kyle named him, Mr. Bigglesworth. That is not, um... I agree. Nelson Taylor has no dog in him, and I'm telling you, Colson Loveland has no dog in him. None. Okay, so wait, Mr. Biggles... Is that a cat? That's right.

You don't remember Mr. Bigglesworth? Yeah. From what? Austin Powers. Oh, man. Oh, that's a cat in Austin Power? That's right. That's Mr. Bigglesworth.

Let me go. How does that work there, Al? Okay, you're petting the cat, the hairless Mr. Bigglesworth. It has been like 20-something years since I've seen the movie. I just need a refresher. I will say, I did think about that leaving yesterday's shows like the majority of our audience has no idea that Mr. Pigglesworth is a cat. But they get it because Colson Lle doesn't have a dog. It sounds like you want a name.

Is this depressing to know that it's 28 years ago when that movie came out? Yeah, it's a little bit of the person. Yeah. I will say, just like Mason, meowson Taylor, you don't have to have the dog in you to be good at fantasy football. I love this start of the week. So here's the argument for him. But no dog. Colcom. That's fine. Well, TBD.

Colquemette was out last week, and finally the number 10 pick of the draft saw season highs, 81% of the snaps, five targets. It only turned into 38 receiving yards, but we saw a target inside the five. We love that. And it times up with the matchup that the Bengals are dead last. Can you say this is the best matchup for tight-in? Yeah. So you get the opportunity. You get the matchup. I like it. I think we could start him. I also think you can start Kyle Pitts this week The name might bring a grimace to your face Maybe the theme of my search for the minute

Hold on hold on Because Andy what happened was When we were talking about Colston I was like Wait are you going back to Colson love? Yes of course we are because you're your comment What was my comment? Let me set it up During the show I was like okay well you guys

You better come up with a cat pun right now And there were some that were there were three options And they were and Mr. Bigglesworth was the best option That's where we got By far the best option. That's how bad the other drops in. Kaston Loveland? Kaston Loveland was right there.

Oh, yeah, that's what I just said. Yeah. I said, was that not good enough for you? That would have won? Yeah, because it's like, I mean, that one seems really. And no one came up with, wait, Jeremy, you can't miss any more shows. I miss a day and I can't, no one could come up with Katzden Loveland? Katzden Loveland.

Or Jeremy came up with Colston Miaoland. Wow. Did you call him out on the show? Yeah, it was so bad. Why do you think it's Mr. Bigglesworth? And Cheshire. Lovelin was the other one. He took the word meow and jammed it. Straight into the name. Colston

Kethel Miao and Wow. Castin is right there, guys. Caston Loveland. These are the creatives on the show. Is that better than Mr. Bigglesworth? I mean, I feel like that be. Yes. All right. Okay. Sorry, can I get back to saying another disgusting name? Yeah, that's fine. Start of the week, Kyle Pitts at New England.

Pitts has the third most receptions among all tight ends. That is not. a lie. He's on pace for 114 targets, 95 receptions. He is a safer floor at the tight-in position and the Patriots suck against the tight-end position. If you watch the game last week that the Patriots eventually dominated, do you remember the play that Harold Fanon scored the touchdown on? I do. Because there wasn't anybody in his zip code. He was wide open. He was wide open. That's their weakness. And they are almost dead last in schedule adjusting against tight-ins. I'm going Kyle Pitts. It's a good one. All right. We've had too many disgusting names. I'm going to bring up a star. Brock Bauer.

He is back. You've been waiting for. This is the return. And people, I've seen a lot of. Did you know that the number one question right now? Oh, man. I wanted to boo you for using this as the name. But now I know our number one question is a Brock Bowers or somebody. Yeah. The number one question right now, and I'm curious where you stand on it, is Brock Bowers or Gadsden. What a world. Are they coming into this year? somebody also asked about Gadsdenverson's like huge and my opinion on both of these answers is actually the same it's just that like why not just write it you're three what is the NBA Jam rules right

he's on fire yeah he's on fire right now is he at three no he's at three he's at two then he's heating up oh well well well no I think he's at three okay so three weeks ago seven for 60 pretty good but he was the tight end 17 seven no no that's that's heating up that's your heating up phase all right that's fine You're not on fire yet. We'll say he's on fire.

But I stay in the flames. It saves me watching the... Would you start him over Brock Bowers? I would do that this week. Yes, I would. Okay, so I would start Brock Bowers personally. I think the Tennessee matchup, their sixth against tight ends, that's who Gadsden's facing. I mean, Bowers should be great. Bauer should be great. He hasn't played since week four, and the Raiders' offense has absolutely just been terrible since then.

They really need him. You know, I expect them to be pummeled with targets at home against the Jags. Yeah, I mean, if Gino can do some push-ups and I want him to pummel, Brock Bowers with the ball. But the Jaguars, their 24th and schedule adjusted, fantasy points allowed to tight end. So I'm putting him right back in my lineup. I know he wasn't good before leaving. He's been hurt since week one.

Gino's been pummeling the opponent with interceptions. We've been waiting for this moment. and so I'm giving permission to put them right back in my line. I think most people, I talked to a couple of people this week. Gadsden versus. I think I'd stick with Gadsden. Okay. All right.

Most people that have waited for Bowers will be playing Bowers. I've talked to a few this week that are like, I didn't wait this long to trade them away. I didn't wait this long not to get him in there. But if you picked up Gadsden and you have that decision, I get it. I think both will be fine. It's not anti-Bowers. It's pro what's happening with Gadsden. That was tough.

Yeah, that was starts of the week presented by U.S. Bank's Smartly Signature Visa Card visit usbank.com slash smartly card to learn how you can earn cash back on every purchase. The creditor and issuer of this card is U.S. Bank National Association pursuant to a license from VCUSA USA Inc. Some restrictions may apply. It's time for the forecast. Fantasy Forecast, presented by prize picks. Well, by Apocalypse is over, but we still got four teams on by. We get the Cardinals, Jags, Lions, Raiders, Rams, and Seahawks back.

We lose the Browns. Oh, darn, I can't play Jerry Judy. Buccaneers, though. Yeah, that one's big, Baker and Ibuka. Yeah, and then the Eagles, that's a huge one. I am super worried about my team in the chop league because I'm being, like, Hertz and Sequin. Oh, carrying me right now. The Bywick is.

And then the Jets. Well, I mean, the timing for Judkins, Barclay, and Garrett Wilson. To get healthy? Yeah, and the bucks. I mean, a Bucca gets some more time. Get him a week off. Yeah, absolutely.

So let's start out here. First matchup of the week to talk about today, the Bears at 4 and 3. Taking on the Cincinnati Bengals, who are 3 and 5, the Vegas line of Chicago, three-point road favorites. The overrunners 51.5. You like that?

I mean, that's... 27 and 24 points? Yeah, we were here last week with Lamar. At that number? Yeah, I mean, well, I'm saying... That's the expected when they expected Lamar to play? Yeah, if there's an announcement that Jake Browning is starting for the Bengals, that 51 will greater.

Yes. The Joe Flacco starts for Cincinnati. He's averaged, the team has averaged nearly 30 points a game. With Jake Browning, it was 12. Yes, that's... The 50 point might drop to 30. If you want to know the difference on how we feel about Jemar Chase, look at that. You average three times the points.

You can be a little bit more confident in the offense. With the shoulder injury, there is definite worry there. If you do look at this and say, I want to take the under, I want to make a wager. Please don't do it for future weeks. Just do it on this game. You need to look at both teams. To me, this matchup with Joe Flacco is very easy. I play everybody.

A little worried about the shoulder. little fragile, but you still play everybody. So I think it's more helpful to think about this. If it's Jake Browning, how do you approach those three guys? I play chase and that would be Jamar. And I sit the rest down and I cry and I even get depressed about the pass catching options on the other side because the bears want to run the football. That's what they do and they do it well.

And if they don't need to do a lot of passing, that sucks for Odunze. Yeah, and usually against the Bengals, you can do whatever you want. So if you want to run the ball, you're going to succeed. It's a user's choice type of... Yeah, it's just what do you like to do, do that. What if you want to, if you want to run it? We're dead last against it. You want to use the tight end?

We're also dead last against it. You want to do quarterback stuff? We let you do quarterback stuff. Like how far down, though, for Chase Brown. So let me, like... Bam Knight or Chase Brown. I mean, I'm going to go Bam Knight for sure. What about RICO against Green Bay?

I would go RICO. I was interested on prize picks. I was looking this morning. and Rico this week. You like those quotes? Yeah. So not only that, but I was looking on prize picks. Those re quotes. And the, uh, the projections for rushing yardage. Between Rico and Chuba, vastly favored, good, Rico. Like that was, I mean, it was like, he earned it. Yeah. No, he did. He flat out really earned it. Um, took an injury. I don't want to, I don't want to get too much on the if Joe Flacco doesn't play, though, because I think

Chase Brown's a great play this week. Like, I would play Chase Brown over Bam night. sure. Should Flacco start? I think the expectation, the current line, says that Joe Flago should start and will. Chase Brown was, I wanted to make my start of the week. It's such a, such a good matchup here. The Bears are not a good rush defense. And Chase Brown's been on fire, or is he heating up? I think, let's check the rules here. I think it's fire. No, it's on fire. He's had three good games in a row after, you know, opening the season with Jake Browning being so terrible. Jake Browning is a fire extinguisher. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is. Yeah. He did, I mean, he's, that's safe. That's a, it's really important for safety. Yeah, no, you need him around the house. But you want him, like, tucked away in the entry or something. Let's presume, though, right now, I mean, the line says Flacco's starting. So with the rushing attack by Chicago, you know, we just talked about it.

Fancy points allowed, the Bengals are last against running backs. You're going to start DeAndre Swift. if he's healthy. He didn't practice, but nobody did. What about Kyle Mononga? I mean, he's been at 40 to 50% of snaps. He's been more productive. It's the best matchup for running backs. They like to run the football. Do you, are you interested in a flex play there? I think it's sketchy because he is, he's getting on the field more, but his percentage of the running back attempts, it's kind of held at 39.

That's what has been in the last two weeks, 25% the week before. and then pretty hit or miss with the targets. If you're talking about the battle of the backups, like you have to start a backup running back. I'll give you four backup running backs. Perfect. Personally, I think I would like Monongai the most. Is Jordan Mason against Detroit in Detroit?

Okay. Kamenongai in this matchup. Rashad Smith at Buffalo or R.J. Harvey, but at Houston. I would take... Smith with... I think it would be hard to sit. Harvey down after that game. I would take Mononga.

When I'm looking at the backups, I'm looking at the options, the game script, the potential for a touchdown. And I don't think that in Houston there's going to be a lot of points. So that's where I would be playing Monongai. But he is a backup.

You're not going to be starting him over. Oh, I'll be starting him. I know you'll be starting. Yeah. Minnesota's three and four. And we talked about Loveland, start of the week for Mike at tight end. So.

Any fears with the Dunezay? I don't, I mean, I don't imagine. Not a few boys. Yeah, I can't put him down or sit him down. Oh, yeah, we don't need to put him down. Goodness. Take him out back. Minnesota three and four.

We're doing great. Detroit, five and two. Vegas line Detroit minus eight and a half. Over under is 48 and a half. I don't know who the Vikings are. They don't know who they are. But I know that getting on track doesn't usually involve going to Detroit to play the lions. No, this is a big bummer of a re-debue for J.J. McCarthy.

I mean, there is still, is there still a chance that Max Brosmer would start over McCarthy or is it solidified? No, it's solidified. I believe yesterday JJ took every first team rep. He is healthy. He will 100% be the starter in this game. So in terms of, you know, the schedule and what McCarthy has in front of him, it gets better. after this week. You get two home games back in Minnesota against bad past defenses after this week. What is your opinion of Jefferson and Addison this week on the road, implied point total of 20, heavy underdogs? How are you looking at the Vikings overall? Game script-wise, I think you'll be all right. The lions will put up points. And while they are, like, the lions are a, I think a scary defense in the real NFL. I mean, like your chance of getting your

quarterback hit a lot. It's pretty high with the Detroit Lions. And Hutchinson just made some money. Yeah, congratulations. The Hutchinson got that bag. But in like in terms of fantasy, though the lions are beatable. The last six weeks, they're 25th against fantasy quarterbacks, third against running backs. So I, I agree that Jordan Mason's, I would sit him down. I think Aaron Jones is a sketchy start, but quarterback, wide receiver, and tight end are where you can exploit

for fantasy, and I'm okay with the wide receiver part, not so much the tight end part. Aaron Jones, would you play him or Cream Hunt? I play Kareem Hunt. What about Bill against Seattle or Aaron Jones? Oh. Aaron Jones. I think he's a better player. They're both in bad matches. Yeah, I agree with that

one. By the way, the way I would do extensions for like my defensive, you know, defensive of ins. I'd build out the entire contract. I would set up a, I mean, the bag for Aidan Hutchinson and then I'd be like, you unlock this in 10 sacks. That's how I'd do

it. Like you get to sign, this pin is locked away, and you can sign this contract in 10 sacks. Hmm. I think he would go to a different team that would say, we'll just give you the money. You can get injured and you get all this. Jemir Gibbs, yes. Amunrah

always. James and Williams occasionally This one Do we make anything of the It's coach speak But Guns Mahoney is a pretty forthright guy Yes

He's not Kyle Shanahan And he didn't He didn't name anyone by name But It was Jamo He said We have guys who are not producing right now And we're

I don't have the quote in front of you But it was a We have guys who are not getting it done And we're going to evaluate that over by week and see if there's anything that we need to change. Interesting. Yeah. Now, I, you know, on the, on the flip side right now, this season, that is, I don't, I don't, egregiously frightening. I don't think that most people listening experience what we experience. We've got in-ear monitors and that's really more for you guys. I saw electricity.

I saw my great grandparents. My heart literally just had one of those clear moments. Like, Yeah, yeah. That's on you guys. This is the end. You didn't know that was coming? I had no idea. I think even when we know it's coming, it's too much. That is, that's fair.

I can be okay, but anyways, right now Detroit, you know, this, they had an offensive coordinator change, and we're halfway through the season. And so I appreciate Campbell's quotes. It'll give me some hope for the future. The schedule really opens up going forward where I think James and Williams could have a second half resurgence or surgeons, but they're using 12 personnel at a very high rate, sixth highest in the NFL, higher than any of the previous three seasons. Currently, Jameson Williams in that personnel grouping has one catch on the season.

So if that's just the new lions, that's scary. You certainly can't start him here, but you watch and you hope that they are manufacturing something for him out of the buy. I'll be starting them. I'm going to say that at the end of every matchup with the guy you sit, okay? That's how my team is looking right now is at the end of you saying you can't start him, I'll be like, and they're in my lineup as my wide receiver one. Where are you with David Montgomery, though?

Because starting him has not been pretty in many weeks. If you, you know, if you catch lightning in a bottle, you get a week three against Baltimore, you get a week five against Cincinnati. This is a tougher situation. It's 50-50 right now. Yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, He's a fine enough start. I would definitely start him over Aaron Jones at home favored in a neutral matchup. So he is a startable asset. I will say for my, here's the opposite of our situation. You're not playing him. I am benching David Montgomery. For Travis E.T.N. I'm starting E.T.N. over Montgomery. Your start of the week. That's right. All right. We'll take a break and jump into some more matchups. Carolina at Green Bay.

Carolina's 4 and 4 Green Bay 5.1 and 1 now. Vegas line, Green Bay minus 13 and a half. Over under is 43 and a half. If Bryce Young makes it back, he walks into Lambo Field with a 15 point implied point total. It definitely seems like Bryce Young will be back. He was starting and Dalton is injured. There are how many times? There's 21 times that the Packers have been favored by 13 plus at home.

They've only lost one of those 21 games. And, yeah, it should go really, really well for Green Bay in this game. It should. You like Jordan Love, Jason, which tells you everything you need to know about the matchup. Yep. He looked great. Josh Jacobs, you play him. They're going to keep limiting him to make sure he's back.

But Josh Jacobs in this matchup against, even with limited opportunities. Yeah, it sucks. He's only going to have one touchdown, which is like, Yeah, for a guy that has Jonathan Taylor, it must be really disappointing to you. It's super disappointing. For a guy who has, I mean, forget, forget Jonathan Taylor, just Josh Jacobs. I prefer when Jacobs gets two touchdowns. Okay.

You're more of a two. What about three? I would love that. But he does, I mean, if you look at the last month, two touchdowns, two touchdowns, two touchdowns, one, he's injured. You're super upset. Jacobs, yes, where are you with the wide receiver room? We've got Matthew Golden, who's waiting for a touchdown. We've got Romeo Dobbs doing his 10 fantasy points a game thing.

We've got Christian Watson returning and playing. I'm excited for Watson. 56% of snaps. Is it is it Watson's turn? I'm excited for it. I don't, you know, like in a, our listener league, it's a 14 teamer. I was pretty aggressive and got Watson. He will be in the lineup.

56% of the snaps turning into 4 for 85. And had seen, I saw them talking about Watson or maybe Watson, was talking about his own injury he had kind of he was ready to go a week or so ago before they made him active like they so they took a full extra they took the whole 21 day window so that that gives me more uh confidence more confidence more optimism that he truly is healthy now i mean you got to get into football shape but i the i think he'll ramp up and he's exciting moving forward. It's really just random there. I

would agree that I would want Christian Watson because I think he is the best of the wide receivers there. I've never been a Matthew Golden Believer and Dobbs is dying. Dobbs is Dobbs is Dobbs. So I want the upside of Christian Watson. The number one wide receiver there though is Tucker Kraft.

Yeah. Kraft. Foo. Yes. Yeah, definitely play him. If you wanted to set Rico Douddle up to fail in a like Belkow opportunity. This is it. So that you can pivot back to the guy you paid. Chuba's like, oh, yeah, yeah.

No, Rico, go ahead. Show us what you got. The Packers are number. He's going to rip off 200 yards. Number one in fantasy points allowed to the running back position. As in the fewest. Yeah, they give up 10.9 total fantasy points to the position. Oh, so what if Rico gets 70% of that?

They don't get seven points. Okay. And then all of a sudden we'll be, you know, if I was choosing between both of those players, which a lot of people are with the RICO, you know, RICO was their guy when Chuba was hurt. I would definitely choose RICO in this game. I would be limiting my expectations for upside. I agree. I would be tempted to play. I would play BAM Knight over RICO. You'd probably, see, that's a, that's a really interesting talent versus opportunity situation. Absolutely. Because Rico's a much more talented player. 100%. So I, um, but RICO. I'm really on the fence there, Mike. What would

you do. I think I'd play BAM. Okay. The Cowboys... I'm going to choose Rico. I'm going to say Rico. I don't blame anyone for that. The Cowboys, it's not just a plus matchup. It is the matchup. It is the plusest.

Yes. J.K. Dobbins. Plusiest. Against Houston for Rico. I... That's fair. I'm going to go Rico. Wow. I'm going to just... I'm going to just... I'm going to go RICO this week. Trust the coach.

It's not, I think manners to expectations have to be part of the discussion with Tett McMillan this week, too. It's not a good match. You know, Tet is a first down guy, but is he going to score in this game? I mean, not likely. Is he going to get to 100 yards? I don't know if either of those things happened. He had a great week last week. He's going to be 70 for 82.

70. 70 reception. 7 for 82. That's a very big. bad yards per cent. But in a PPR. It's like one yard a catch. That's not too bad. 1.17? He's a good play this week. He's just

it's going to open up for him very soon. I mean, I'm... Would you play Christian Watson or Tett McMillan? Easily Ted. Okay. The chargers are five and three. They take on the one and seven Tennessee Titans. The Vegas line, Los Angeles minus eight and a half on the road. The overrunners

43 and a half. Gives Tennessee just 17 and a half points. I, you know, the sports cards world is a fairly good temperature check on people's sentiment around players. Jason would call it a litmus test. He would call it that. Yeah, he would call it that with some new letters. I'm just going to say, like, the interest is not a new ladder. It has been around for as long as all of them.

New to the word. Okay. That's all I'm in. The Cam Ward excitement has faded entirely. It is, there is a complete disbelief in. Cam Ward. And unfortunately, it's always hard to distinguish when there's been so much dysfunction. You're changing your head

coach. You have limited weapons. You have an injured number one wide receiver. You don't have an offensive line protecting him. Like all these things swirl around and it's really hard when these rookies who now four straight number one picks have a change of coach halfway during their first season. But nobody's really a believer in Cam Ward right now.

And I just don't know. I know he could do better than he's doing. I just don't know how much you could do. I'm really curious because I haven't listened to yesterday's Dynasty show. I know that, Mike, it's gotten better for Cam Ward statistically, but you went back and did a film study on him this week. I know in the very beginning of the game, you're like, it wasn't good, but I didn't hear the results of that.

So what did you see this last week on film with Camden? So every week on the Dynasty podcast, Borg and Betts pick a guy or a team, and then Jason and I, we do the same thing. We go back. We watch all of their snaps. And this game against the Colts, was a disaster. It looked terrible like

Cam's not making the right choices when he needs to check down. The offensive line is terrible. No one's really getting open, at least in that one game, people weren't getting open at the clip that they need to, talking about the wide receivers. Which right now is two rookies.

Like Iommanner. And an Iyo Manor had at least, he had at least two disgusting drops. Is it Van Jefferson? Yeah. Yeah. So, the, I'm, yeah, the quote of the show was, was Matthew Betts called the Titans a completely unsurious operation right now. And that, that was what I saw.

That was the one. I didn't watch every game. I just watched the most recent one. Well, I mean, you watch, we watch every game. Yes. Well, I'm saying, like, I didn't go back to the All 22 for every, but I left it disheartened. Because of our, we had our conversation on Tuesday of, uh, uh, Chimray Dikays, his productions, like, last two weeks. weeks has been okay. Which you can correlate with a change at that's yeah with Callahan being gone.

Yeah, like getting him involved and he was a high draft pick. That was the optimism of, they call him Diet Amon Ra. Well, there was the optimism of I'm like, hey, I'm going to go, let's go see for sure. Hey, Jason, I'm playing, I'm playing DK in a league. I'm playing DK in a league. I'm 100% believe it. But you really are though, right? Yeah, for I mean, this is now we haven't brought this up. It was, But this is a really important thing to bring up. What's that? The Water Bowl. This is a huge, huge matchup going on between Al Borland and Andy this week.

So people, please understand, Andy is not bad at fantasy football. His team sucks raw rotten eggs, okay? These were the two teams in the championship last year. These were the two teams in the championship. They sold out to get there. It's a keeper league. What did it cost you? It cost them everything.

All of our picks. It was worth it, though. wasn't it? Nice. I see how has brought the trophy up to Deucer's Alley. He wants to...

Yeah, he wants to make sure that people know. So anyways, yeah, okay, kiss that. Essentially... Their two teams are by far the worst two teams

in our league. They are hot trash. And one of them will face the league's punishment, which no one wants to do. We use the wheel of water, and every single team in the league

gets to do bad things to them with water. And then you draft wet. And then you draft wet. They are facing off this week. Yeah, I really want to beat him. They're pretty much tied right now for they're near enough in points and in record where it's like this

might not be the entire reason someone finishes last, but it probably is. It's going to make a big difference. Because you guys aren't getting many wins and one of you has to win. this week. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, we are... Yeah, I don't think either of us will win another matchup or even get media. He's been giving it to us. I know. I know. That's one of those guys were...

I'm playing... Okay, you want me to read it? I do. Superstar Jaden Daniels. That's awesome. He's been super available for me. No Terry. Bam Knight. Hey, that's not bad. That's a good start. That's a good point. My RB2 is Kyle Monong guy. Okay. I am starting Travis Hunter. All right. Okay. I almost made him my start of the week. But I was I'm starting Jameson Williams. Okay.

He could. He could. He could. He could. I think I can't. My tight end, who you couldn't get off of a free agency because I signed him. A week before. After you traded me.

Darren Waller. That's a Ronda Gadsden. That's good. Okay. And then I have a sweet flex combo of Alec Pierce and Tajay Spears right now. I can honestly see how that team wins. Yeah, it could be. I thought it was going to be worse.

He has Stafford, Harvey, Kyrie. DJ Moore Keenan McBride Born Mooney this is the perfect mix of he could

This will be a fun matchup There's a couple superstars in there We got to Pingree Pingree I know you're listening We got to post this matchup this weekend on social If two people have broken legs and they race Somebody wins that race

You know what I mean Like somebody has to win Somebody's the winner Yeah Good luck buddy You may not finish likewise. Yeah, yeah, you could not finish the race. I'm glad we, I'm really appreciative of that timeout for that discussion.

You're welcome. If you had Pollard or Spears, would you play Pollard over Spears or would you take the more explosive play guy? I currently have Spears higher in my rankings. Pollard has not been efficient or good and Spears on a limited touch basis has been very explosive. I'm not looking forward to playing him as you have to, but if I had both those guys, I think I would go spear. Pollard is limited with a neck injury, at least on Wednesday.

Come on Evadell's my start of the week on the other side. That's not a common one. A neck injury? I mean, it's part of the body. No, I know, but it's just not common. Okay. You've seen a lot of neck injuries? I've seen a few, yeah. Okay.

I've been around the block, man. Ladd McConkey was limited with the calf injury. What do we do? McConkey, Allen, Quentin Johnston, Gadsden. If you had Quentin and Gadsden in a flex choice, would you choose a tight end in that situation? That's the stay in the flames versus going back to the wide receiver. No, I would

go quitting Johnston. If it was a flex, I still believe he is more important to the offense matchup-wise. Is he actually healthy? Because it has been since the game where he got injured, we have seen nothing

for him in terms of production. I know he had the one wide open where Herbert didn't see him. However, production is 40 yards in 82% of the snaps. That's the game he got hurt. Misses a week, comes back, plays the full allotment of snaps, ends with two for 30. Then he plays half the game against Minnesota. The snaps this last week was...

That was a product of the game, but he still played half and he didn't get a single target. He's not on their injury report at all, I don't believe. No, but it still happens. Gadsden is making a huge impact on... You know, he's basically a wide receiver for them. Yeah. A Ronde, that's why I think that's the one flex decision. I would go Gadsden because he's really a wide receiver in the offense

and because he's on fire and he's averaging 17 fantasy points in when we just got a goose. Like you don't need to go back to the goose. You've got to go to the Gander, and that is Gadsden. Nice. Yeah, that's, yeah, all right, we're done. Ganderston. He's the highest yards per target for a rookie tight end in the last decade.

He's very exciting. He finds space down the field. and Herbert finds a way to evade pressure, and those two, it works out really well. The way that Quentin Johnson was having success in the beginning of the year, we talked about how hard he was working to come back to the quarterback

or to find himself space when... In the very beginning of the year, when Ladd wasn't getting it done, and Quentin Johnson was the best, and Keenan was great. We said, this is not going to be that way for Ladd. And then it switched, and Ladd was doing great, and Keenham was not.

And then it switched, and now Gadsden's doing great, and Quentin Johnson's not. The truth is all four of those players are excellent. They can all do it if necessary. Whatever the defense gives them on a particular week, Herbert will take. And it's great for Herbert to have another weapon. It will not be every week consistency from any one of those four guys.

I think you start all four of those guys more often than not, and just hope it's your week. Yeah, Keenan Allen is, believe it or not, the wide receiver aid on the year. Now, they haven't had their buy, but he has the wide receiver 8, and it has come through four games you were happy and four games you were sad, legitimately. Yeah. So it is, it's a roulette right now where I feel the most confident about McConkey, how he's been coming on of late in Gadsden, and the other two.

You hope you get the right week. That's how it works. Falcons are three and four. They take on the six and two New England Patriots. Patriots are known for managing the running back rotation to a six and two record. Vegas line, New England minus five and a half. Imagine being 8.0. That's okay. Yeah, sure. That's the difference.

We can't say for sure. Imagine being 2 and 6. Over under is 44 and a half. Who do you like in this game? You like New England at home? Everyone likes New England at home, which means the Falcons are going to destroy them. They're going to show up and be that team that we've seen like three or four times this year. Well, three times this year. the falcons are a conundrum they genuinely have looked like a legitimate playoff contender beating buffalo having some just some awesome

showings both sides of the ball especially their defense and then they look comically bad some weeks just like a disaster now obviously 10 to 34 at home against the Miami Dolphins yeah like 30 to nothing against the Carolina Panthers and a loss it just comically bad now they smoked Vikings on the road right that was an example of that 22 to 6 it's so wild so this but it's always when you don't expect it in all the matchup is this your official Atlanta upset of the week yeah I mean this would be yes this is my official Atlanta upset of the week you get one Atlanta upset of the week per week okay well I'm gonna use it here use it this week because

because Atlanta's playing in the game yeah making it easier to use uh Drake may unbelievable unbelievable he's third in the MVP voting right now. They've won five straight games. He is, he proved last week against a Cleveland defense that is tremendous. It doesn't matter. You know, I love Kishan Booty. I think he is absolutely

a player that you can play every week right now. I think, you know, you've got an injury situation with Ramandre. You know you can't trust Trayvion right now. I don't know if I'm messing around with those guys. The Falcons matchup would be a good one for a running back to have success. If Ramandre was out,

I would I would start Henderson And if he's active and healthy and practices of the rest of the week I'm fine playing him Ramandre I mean you've had some duds and then you've had some pretty good games

so booty yes on the other side Bijon yes Drake London if he's healthy of course but you need to get Michael Pennix Jr. back and this is a tough matchup

tough situation Patriots defense seventh against quarterback second against running backs, fifth against wide receivers. Is there a world where you're, you know, you said it's the Atlanta upset of the week. I mean, are you in on both wide receivers? The wide receivers to me are. Mooney and London. No, I'm not in on Mooney.

If London is playing, I'm going to start him, but that's it. I've got to see something from Mooney. Obviously last week it was Kirk Cousins, so, you know, You can forgive it, and I could see Mooney being just fine going forward. I certainly would not be dropping Mooney. If he was out there, I'd pick him up and stash him, but I'm watching and waiting to see what happens. You know, this is going to be a litmus test.

Oh, boy. For, I think for the Patriots. Kyle Pitts was my start of the week and is my start of the week at Tide In. It is a good matchup for tight ends and pretty much nothing else. Yep. Pits or Kincade? I would be Pits on that one. I think I'd play Kincade. Kelsey or Pits?

I'd probably stick with Kelsey on that one. Lovellyn or Pits, I'd go Pits for sure. Just for the safe floor. I'm guessing Mike will go. I'll go Love one there. San Francisco's five and three. Wait, what's his first name? Colston.

Mm-mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Kaston. You didn't think of it If you would come up on the spot What about the Great Catsby? Not too bad Now we're into a third layer of the joke Yeah we should be in zero layers

The 49ers are 5 and 3 The Giants are 2 and 6 The Vegas line San Francisco on the road Minus 2 and a half Overrunners 48 and a half The 49ers barely arrived in Houston last week Vegas knew something Yeah they did

They didn't go that direction here the Giants 2 and 6. You know, Jackson Dart, I'll start there. He has truly been very, very good, considering how limited his weapons really are in this offense and how much he's having to do. You look at some rookie quarterbacks, like what I think they'll do with Tyler Shuck this week,

which is try to manage him, screen passes, short area targets. Jackson Dart's kind of been given the range. It's like go figure out how to play football, chuck it down the field, do ridiculous things. The team is on his back. It's like you have to go out and figure out how to win this game for us. And do it with Wondale and no neighbors and now no scataboo and do it with Tyrone Tracy. We had a big trade in our league.

Somebody went after Tyrone Tracy this week. I don't know if my expectations for him are as high as this person's were. Yeah, it's not a terrible matchup for him. I think Tyrone Tracy is a good start this week personally. Do you think he, I mean, what's strange about him is he obviously started the year, getting the majority of the opportunity, struggled to it was Washington, it was on the road, I get it. Do you think he is going to be better

in this offense this year than he was for this offense last year? Or is it more of the same? I think it'll be more of the same. Which is what, RB2 category? Yeah, if you want a reminder of what Tyrone Tracy did last year

in those games where he was, you know, solid he was a running back too, you're talking it's pretty much either seven points or 14 points like every week so looking at after the buy uh last week 14.7 points 13 and a half 16 and a half four points 14.9 8.3 7.6. It was like he's going to get the utilization to be good enough for fantasy football. Will he get a touchdown that will make the difference on a really solid game or not but I the two biggest start sits with him are Rico Doudal or Tyrone

Tracy and Travis E.T.N. or Tyrone and Tracey. So I would go Travis E.T.N. Tyrone Tracy, Rico Dowdell. Yeah. I think I can agree with that. And Darius Layton is still on waiver wires. I don't think he should be. He definitely

should not be. I mean he had a bomb touchdown last week with an egregious nonsensical flag that took it away. it happened. It wasn't theoretical or hypothetical.

It was, it. Ethereal or ephemeral. It was just had that play counted, which it should have. Everybody, he would have been a top waiver wire pickup this week. Like, oh, they need a guy, the number one guy, you know. It is sort of Darius Clayton's career arc is occasionally catching a bomb touchdown that makes us all jump in. So maybe get it before it. happens. I would. I'd pick him up if you got a spot.

Do you care about the tight ends at all in New York right now? No, no. I wish I did. I really want to care about Theo Johnson, but it's just not good. Do you care about the wide receivers in San Francisco right now? Yeah, yeah. Someone is going to be valuable. Who is it? Just tell me the future. Jennings. Okay. So far one game this year is a top 40 wide receiver. I'm not playing him. You don't have to. Are you? I'll bet. You're going to play him? I'll I bet you you would play him if he was on your roster. I mean, it's not been good. I mean, Brock Purdy, are we, we're expecting him back.

Are we? Like, is that, we've been expecting him back for three weeks? Is there, has there been an official? No. Goodness, no. Oh, okay. But I'm expecting him back based on what I had looked at. It was basically, you know, he's equivocating.

Head coach Kyle Shanhan's talking about, you know, it's early in the week. I don't see it as a long shot for him to play. That's kind of the language, so. He is a dirty liar, though. I don't feel like their favorite two and a half without him. Let's see, 19 hours ago, we have video, and the quote is, Brock Purdy is moving really good out there for being, quote, limited.

That's a speculation from a... Speculation. It was going to be speculative. Yeah, I mean, McCaffrey, you play, and Kettle you play, but I don't have the conviction you do to choose one of these wide receivers to succeed. Well, the wide receiver I want is George Kettle. And I would be thrilled to have him in my lineup.

Yeah, but that's cheating. Wait, that tweet was 19 hours ago. Now from the same account 51 minutes ago. Okay. Update, Brock Purdy and Ricky Pierce are all trending to be out this week. Great. That escalated real fast. So it would be Mac Jones?

It would be. Does that mean it's Kendrick Bourne? Yeah, it could be. I mean... Yeah, I agree with you. You don't start a wide receiver. The Kendrick born in the last two weeks with Mack Jones was awful. Five receptions over the last two weeks, I think.

You just, this is what I'm saying. Just freaking Ricky Pearsall. Ricky Pearsall is. Oh, dude. He is very close to being out as, he's close to being out as long as he was out when he got shot. Yeah. Wow. He's missed a lot of games.

Which is a PCL, right? It also makes you realize, like watching this offense makes you realize how he is, he is their, he is going to be great. He will be very good. If that's a guy that you could trade for, stash, pick up off waivers if you don't have an IR league and he's just been sitting out there. At some point, this is still a long season ahead of us. He will come in and make an impact. When he went down to injury, he was, was he leading the league in receiving he was dominating. Yeah. Yeah, this is the long game with him. I mean, he was brought up on the second half sleeper list. But it was, you know, you just don't know when he's really coming back.

he has been trending the wrong direction for too long. By the way, a couple of injury updates to follow up on. Nico Collins was seen participating in practice again on Thursday. Seems like he'll be back from the concussion. And should clear protocol if all goes well today. That's nice. Very much so. That was Fantasy Forecast, presented by Prize Picks, as always.

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