Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Super Bowl Reactions + Temp Checks, Offseason Begins! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/10

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Feb 10, 2026. Super Bowl recap and more! What’s the future outlook for Super Bowl MVP, Kenneth Walker? Plus, fantasy football temperature check on Oronde Gadsden and De’Von Achane! Lots of questions answered for 2026 fantasy football drafts and dynasty leagues. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(01:00) Super Bowl Reactions(14:10) NFL News(25:15) Mailbag(26:05) Sam LaPorta shot at TE1?(28:25) Temperature check on Oronde Gadsden(33:10) How far will De’Von Achane fall?(39:40) What happened to Newman(40:30) Brian Thomas Jr. or Marvin Harrison Jr. next year?(44:30) How many championships do you each have?(45:20) Would you ever let the Falcon host?(46:50) Who is the 1.01 next year?Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. We can finally start 2026 season, Andy. Thank goodness for that. Oh, my goodness. Put a bow on Mike Wright's season and let's just. The year of Mike. It's over.

It is finished. It is in the rearview mirror, but it did. And you will never take it away from me. Nor forget it. I mean, welcome in one and all. The Super Bowl is over. And just like Mike said at the top of the year, Ken Walker will be the Super Bowl MVP.

Yeah, when I started the season with fantasy MVP, what I meant was Super Bowl MVP. Was in your fantasy season. He will not help you very much. But he will be the MVP of it. But he will be immortalized. Unbelievable. Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahaw.

We all watched the game together at Jason's house. And you knew from the jump what Mike was going to be rooting for, which is one thing. Yeah. Ken Walker MVP. Two. I would have taken a Hendo, but I knew he was not going to. Well, I knew it wasn't going to work. Sometimes on the year of Mike, you would think everything you want could come true.

Oh, that's not how it happens. But when some things are, you know, they go against each other. Like Hindo and Walker. can't both do it. Right. So Ken Walker ends up the MVP. This was not an exciting ball game. Oh, this game.

Look, I got some flack and some support. It's what happens every time you say anything wise. But the whole like defense, look, defense is not as fun to watch as offense. That is an objective fact. I'm not saying that defense is can't. be great or can't be fun to watch. But like nobody out there is rooting for a three nothing ball game. No one ever.

Like that's just not why we watch football. And so, yeah, most of this game was pretty boring. It was two great defenses. Yeah, it wasn't a Super Bowl. It was a regular bowl. Yeah. An ordinary bowl. Yeah, it was a bad bowl.

An average bowl. But look, it was just domination. And look, got a lot of flack criticizing the schedule for New England. Yeah. Didn't look like they belonged. Frankly, their defense played great. Their defense was awesome. Drake may had the worst three-game run of the playoffs that we've seen ever.

Ever, ever, ever. I genuinely believe that his shoulder is injured. I mean, they said he took the shot pre-game. You know, that's going to be like an AC joint spray. So he's injured. Now, presumably he got injured the last game. So that doesn't excuse all three of those games, although he was up against really good.

defenses throughout the process. And a blizzard. All of his, you know, all of his throws this game were just like behind the wide receiver. Every throw was just off the mark. That's where it's like, man, he had the injury has to be worse than we thought because that even with schedule and strength of defenses and everything, like Drake May was really accurate. His ball placement this year has been great.

It was awesome. And he was not hitting on all cylinders. And so that part's a little bit. disappointing, but Ken Walker. Kenneth Walker, everybody. 27 for 135. The Seahawks will have like, for fantasy purposes, there will be some big time decisions to make for them this offseason.

J.S.N. up for an extension. I think Witherspoon. I think Kobe Bryant. I think obviously Ken Walker is a free agent. They will need to spend some money to stay. I believe they have the sixth most projected cap space. So Schneider over there is doing excellent work. the only general manager now to build two different Super Bowl champions that shared no players and no coaches.

I mean, that's an amazing job. And should I have to flee the Arizona Cardinals? Oh, are you considering it now? They're up for consideration. Okay. Well, I'm sure you'll have to. It is a special weekend. Oh, hey.

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I mean Charbonnet being injured was pretty good news for Seahawks fans. Yeah. That finally let the team say, hey, Ken Walker, what happens if we give you 27 carries? Oh, good things. And you win a Super Bowl MVP. There was a, Andy wasn't joking towards the second half of the game. There was only, at that point, when it kind of looked like, okay, this is going to be the Seahawks.

We just got to let it play out. The only thing anybody is watching for is can Ken Walker get Super Bowl MVP? Darnold throws a touchdown. and you're all upset because now Darnold's got one. We got pretty, by we, I mean, me, I got pretty nervous that it's like, okay. But then later you give it to Darno, but he's completely 50% of his passes. In the fourth, when Kenneth Walker rips off that 50-yard touchdown run. Oh, man.

And you're like celebrating and it's like, I mean, at that point, it's over. 200 all-purpose yards, you know, one of the only two touchdowns in the game. And then it got called back on a flag. So then the game is over. we're just waiting and you just, you see him standing back on the stage and you're like, he wouldn't be there. He wouldn't be there if he's not the MVP.

That was just fun time. Talk to me about Kenneth Walker instant reaction for Fantasy 2026. I mean, Charbonnet's injury is significant. He's a part of the committee but won't probably be full strength by the start of the season.

If Walker's under contract for Seattle, which I think is a possibility, you talked about the cap space. He said he wants to be there. is he, did this playoff run, the injury to Charbonnet changed the entire landscape for how he's going to be drafted? I mean, you do have, you'll have a new OC. Like, Clint Kubiak officially taking the job with the Raiders. Which, I mean, there's, there's no way they put Genty and something like that.

Right? A committee? Yeah. I don't know. You don't, like, you know, like Walker was always a, there was always other running backs up there for Walker. but he was, I mean, this was his like lowest rushing share. And for him, he'll have to decide does, well, money, number one, money talks, but let's say money is all pretty relative and the same.

Does Walker want to be in a time share? Or will they tell him, hey, if you come back for this money, we're not going to do what we did last year and keep pulling you off the field for touchdowns? Because guys want yards, but players want to score. Offensive players want touchdowns. Kenneth Walker, if he's given equal money everywhere and he knows he's going to be in a timeshare in Seattle, he will still come back. They just want a Super Bowl. This is his home.

That's where he wants to go. The only way he leaves Seattle is someone pays a lot of money, which he very well might have just earned that payday from someone. The ask just went up. This is a very down rookie draft class for running backs so far of what I've seen from punants. my scouting. There's like only two running backs I really like. Last year it was like chalk full of great rookie running backs. This year it's it's a weaker draft class which means these free agents are going to have heavier bidding when free agency opens here in a month. And because GMs can't just look to the draft to say, ah, I'll take one of these 10, 12 guys that

I like in the draft. There's only a handful of players that are true, obvious only show in town running backs. I mean, the Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Saquam Barkley, Josh Jacobs, like most running backs are in some sort of committee. I don't think Walker is in the tier of Sequin. I don't think a team is going to pay him like that. So I think he's going to run the risk of, I mean, Bejohn Robinson spent time in a pretty heavy Tyler Alger committee. If you have a player that you have confidence in like they do with Charbonnet, that's going to happen. And you got to

remember going into the year the context for Ken Walker, multiple seasons of constantly being banged up and injured. He avoided that this year. You look at, you're like, oh my gosh, maybe it's because they gave them a bunch of time off the field. You know, it's like, it's certainly not going to try to change things after winning the Super Bowl in a wholesale fashion. I mean, last night, Halani was on the field plenty of times, much to Mike Chagrin. Yeah. I was, I'm shocked looking at the box score of, of Holani. had three touches. I felt like he was out there way more than that, but maybe it's my paranoia. But for the timeshare, it just comes down to Will Walker get the high value touches.

And I feel like if he goes back, that eventually it will still, I think they'll fall back into the old habit of giving, like, Sharps is bigger. We need the bigger guy at the goal line. There's not that many teams that you could say are going to go out, spin the the money on Walker and bring him in to be the main guy. There just aren't that many teams at those kind of opportunities. You know, you could look at maybe. Is New Orleans

going to move on from Camara at some point? I don't know. You've got Washington, we know, has a hole there. We just need 65%. I'm looking at these teams. There's just not a lot of those opportunities out there in Seattle's they won it all. They'll bring them back, I think. I think they'll bring them back. Final

week of fantasy face-off. Just giving you the run-down of the way this season ended up. In our final Super Bowl fantasy face off, Mike ended up losing? Yeah, I did. Over on price picks, but I did what I had to do, America. Yeah, you said that you took the... I took the less on, on Walker's

rushing yards. One, because I thought the number of getting to, you know, the almost 80 rushing yards. I was like, that, the Patriots defense is... Can't doubt my guy, Mike. They're very, very good. but it was simply I sacrificed myself clearly so that Kenneth Walker could be the MVP. Yeah, and you did a great job at that. Mine went pretty well. I had JSN less than 91 and a half receiving yards.

That was great. Kenneth Walker over three and a half targets. That was great. One overthrow from not looking very good. Yeah. And then what's crazy, though, I knew Hunter Henry. I had him at five targets. it was the line and he hit five targets.

So I knew that one would wash. Right. So I was curious how much cash I won because my other one was, you know, less yardage on Drake May. Right. You mean I went this morning? It was like, wait a minute. Wait, because halfway through that game, three quarters through the game, I mean, Drake May's done nothing. Are you sure?

Wait, he threw for 295 yards? He had 56 yards in the third quarter. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I didn't even, I didn't count the garbage time in my mind. Yeah. But I was blown away. So I went, I went to two or four. Yeah, I was two or four as well, Mike.

I think you were one of four. The official shame counts for 2025. I was shamed eight times. Congratulations. You are the winner. Jason five times, Mike, six times, including the Super Bowl. I guess the, all the deucers were shamed one time. Yeah.

Week 12. So, yeah. The way the season started, I was feeling good. Mike was three out of the first four. I hadn't engaged the year yet. But then I went on a heck of a run, boys. And then at the end of the year, I took time off as well. I needed to fix the middle of the season.

But, yeah, remember hashtag triple gobble? Those guys. All right, let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. He's bad. All crazy eyes. The OG B-hole. After.

The OGB hole indeed. The OGBH. That would be Adam Gays. He is back in the NFL after a five-year hiatus. Oh, it just feels like yesterday he was the OGB hole. Yes. Coming back to the Chargers to be an assistant focused on the passing game. Okay.

All right. As long as the plays are being called by Mike McDaniel. and normally it's other reporters who catch strays on this show. Oh, like, you got a new favorite? It's, I mean, look, it's Rappaport, but this is a tweet that Rappaport put out. Adam Gase has worked with quarterbacks such as Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, and Sam Darnold setting records with Manning as O.C., now he's set to work with Justin Herbert. Like, you're, you're now giving Adam Gay's credit for the time that he spent working with Sam Darnham Arnold? It didn't go well.

Sam Darnold was a catastrophic bust of a pick. Yeah, and now you're just going to Oh, Super Bowl. Zach Wilson, don't forget Zach Wilson. I mean, it's like, what are we doing here? That's nonsense.

We're just tweeting. He worked with him. Just tweeting away, man. He almost ruined the man's career. Yeah, he's back. Like, he had to go to hell and back. Reform everything. It's funny listening to

Donald talk about what happened for him in his career. He said, you know, he got off to a hard, a tough start. Do you think? And he said, it wasn't until he got to San Francisco for a year and worked with Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan that he figured out. He gave them tons of credit, basically saying,

but he brought up gays and how influential he was. He was influential in the other way. I haven't seen this one. So he thought, he was given Crote to Shanney? Yeah, basically quarterbacks need to be well coached when they come out of college. Just ask Caleb Williams. Yeah, they need to be there are good ones and bad ones to teach them or to just

assume, oh yeah, okay, you know what you need to do, go be a star. And obviously, it's just like the quarterback position. There aren't 32 guys out there that can really take these quarterbacks to the next level. But when Darnel got with Shanahan, that happened. And so... Three years in New York, two in Carolina, one year in San Francisco with Shanahan, then the great season of Minnesota, and then Seattle as a Super Bowl champion. I wonder if teams could trade like a rental, can I send, like a draft pick, you get a second round quarterback or a late first round quarterback.

And it's like, I'm going to trade them to the Niners. Oh, like a training? For one year, you get them for one year and we'll give you a fourth round pick and then we get them back. You know what I mean? Just go train under Shanahan. Like sending him to a summer camp? Yeah, exactly. The Darnal thing is, it's insane.

Like, if J.J. McCarthy doesn't tear his meniscus, the rookie year. Do we know this happen? Yeah, does any of this happen? It's not like this? Well, based on how JJ played, yes, it would have. Well, I'm saying like, but at that point now you're like, how many games played, have they lost? And we're like, okay, we've got to put Donald in just what you just said is that if JJ wasn't injured early enough in his rookie year, that this year the Vikings would have won the championship. Quite because the second half of the year from Donald, they'd be like, we got to sign this guy.

He would be their quarterback this year. Oh, by the way, I don't. I think Donald's going to be their quarterback next year. Yeah. I think so. Yeah, I think he's going to end up. I don't think his memory if he failed in the playoffs, maybe he wouldn't be. Yeah.

He did all right. And it is official now. Gino Smith went from the first place Super Bowl champion team to the first pick in the NFL draft team. Good job, Gina. And lost a starting opportunity. Now it'll go to Clint Kubiak and Fernando Mendoza. Mendoza will be the number one pick. It is a, I mean, Kubiak masterful job.

Bowers, Genti Mendoza. That's fun. Doesn't sound like Max Crosby wants to hang around. but we'll see. It's really cool. I know that Kenneth Walker was in a timeshare, and we don't necessarily love that, but I don't know that that's a Cubes thing

versus more of a philosophy of the head coach. Cubes has a great run system, and so Genti now with Kubiak coming in, I'm really excited to see that. Spend every pick you have that isn't Mendoza on the offensive line. Yes. You need it for Ginty. You need it for Mendoza.

Just solidify that. Do whatever. Look what the Bears did. Yeah, what Chicago did in the offseason. That's what you got to do. That's a tough division. Because two years ago, Walker was 76% of running back attempts in games played, and he was down at 50% this year.

It's probably the fact that he couldn't stay healthy. It's the health, man. It's the health. And now all of a sudden he did stay healthy and was real fresh legs for the Super Bowl. Look, Ken Walker is a very good running back, but he's also played a lot of years, and there are weaknesses in his game. and so I think that's what they loved about Sharbs. Sharps is like the guy that goes in and just,

yes, he's not, I know he's not explosive and that bothers us in fantasy, but he's just like he does the job. He knows all the rules. He gets into the end zone. He knows all the rules. Yeah, I mean, like Ken Walker's biggest problem. He could ref this game, man.

He's so good at knowing the rules. I don't know I said that. That one is not correct. I don't think it's, It's not impossible. It's not impossible to me that someone pops up on the Raiders and we're like, why do they keep giving him the touchdowns? Well, we're not going to, I mean, is your year over with yet?

I won't doubt you if it isn't. I don't know. The Cowboys are expected to place the franchise tag on George Pickens. It's the only way forward. I have heard, no matter what, I have heard that he may. Tag and trade. It could be a tag and trade. So we'll see.

Cliff Kingsbury is joining the Rams. So smart, you want. Wiley Devil. I mean, Cliff Kingsbury. Cliff Kingsbury joining the Rams as soon as Stafford announced that he is back at the

Hall of Fame, the NFL honors event, and Cliff Kingsbury unrelated head coach in 2027. Yep. It's happening. No, that, yeah, the opportunities

weren't. I think you would have, I think if it wasn't just like Arizona and the Raiders sitting as the final two teams with the job. He might have gotten one this year. He's not going back to Arizona. We know that. And then Tom Pelliser, your favorite dude, says the odds are increasing that Aaron Rogers returns. Oh, boy. Well, you got to come back and play a year with your old coach.

I got to look those articles back up. I just remember when that falling apart happened, the articles that were written about the Packers and just how much problems there were with McCarthy and Rogers. I don't remember it anymore. but now it seems like it's all fine. There was some finger pointing in the media, but I don't think that I think the length of time that they had together as quarterback and coach

was maybe not so bad. We'll see. We know that McCarthy said he wants him back. So, I mean, it was one of the first things he said. What is the best scenario for your quarterback? Is it Rogers coming back? Yep, that's the best scenario. Because the depth chart is Mason Rudolph and Will Howard.

I think some people want to see some Will Howard out there. I don't know. We'll take a break. We'll come back with some mailback. All right, before we get into the mailbag, just to continue the conversation there about Pittsburgh and Rogers coming back, that's one of the toughest positions to be in as a team

is when you have this really old future Hall of Fame or quarterback. Are they that close? You know what I mean? If you're not that close, you feel like you need to find your next man up. It's probably detrimental to your franchise. to bring him back.

The two quarterbacks that are available on the market for a team like the Steelers, and I genuinely have a question for you guys that I think we should think through, because it's Kyler and it's Tua, right? Kyler and Tua are currently not free agents, but they're available. They're not going to be the starting quarterback for their respective franchises. At least that's the expectation right now. Who is better to win a Super Bowl? I would say given those two options, I would trade.

from Mac Jones. But Kyler and Tua. Kyler over Tua. I think it's Tua over Kyler. I mean, other than the head injury, I mean, that's the big worry there, but just the play deteriorated. Yeah, I mean, I'll take the running game

of Kyler. If you want to call both of them insufficient pocket passers, I'll take the one that can scurry around. One of them literally led to NFL and passing yardage a couple years ago. Yeah, well, I don't think ineffective pocket passers. And one of them is doing the same Darnold. right now for

San Francisco. Former glory is not the debate here. Both have had former glory. You're talking about two teams that want to get rid of these dudes. They know the numbers. They don't go, he was the leader in the league. Why are we getting, I mean, they both suck now. That's the problem.

I mean, did you watch two of us here? I guess not enough. You probably threw up your dinner. I think someone had to get this, you know, had to fall on the sword. When losing games and having issues. The crappy players do. I mean, he, yeah, yeah, maybe.

I mean, I, look, Kyler, first three years of the league, unbelievable seasons. It's just, golly, 809 rushing yards in a season where he threw for $4,000. What happened? He was going to be a star. Don't know, ma'am. Cowardous. Cowardous and call of duty.

Are you telling me that if you had to choose a starter for theirs, of Cardinals next year, you would choose Tuatunga by Loa Jason Moore? No, I wouldn't. Over Kyler? No. Okay. I wouldn't. I was specific to the Steelers. I think the Steelers have a better defense and a better franchise. That's what you were asking. I think they're set up better for Tua's

skill set than Kyler's, but... You could be right there. I didn't. I thought you were just talking about moving forward with those guys. Mike, we're getting into the mailbag. All right. We've got a ton of questions from the people. We're into the offseason, so who knows what these questions are going to be.

but let's go mailbag I'm going to tell you I'm going to be honest with you I had no idea if I had hit the mailbag drop yet that was really that was a real 50-50 for me whether I was hitting it for a second time and was going to get lit up on the show

I'm looking over to Deucer's Alley like going is he going to give me a look? I saw you looking at me. Yeah dude I was like and then I realized it was the ad break I had hit. I knew exactly what was happening. You did? And I was not going to bail you off.

No, I knew. I knew you weren't. I knew there was a chance you guys are going to mock me for hitting it twice. But that's off-season mode. That's what we're in. All right. If you have a question for the show,

you can always send it in to us. Go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. You can dial the voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB if you want to. We got a voicemail question to start us off. What's up, ballers? With my lion, tiring your blobfish,

aka Mr. Clean, you dig Laporta, if healthy, has a sneaky shot at Tide-D-1. Okay, so this is in reference to Drew Petsing being the new hire for offensive offensive coordinator for the Lions and the fact that Tray McBride just had a career season for the blobfish. No, I don't think that this is a, Tray McBride is not a Drew Petsing system situation. Tray McBride is maybe the most dominant receiving tight-in currently alive.

So when you inherit a team where you've got a disappointed. pointing Marvin Harrison. At the time, you know, it wasn't Jerry Rice as the wide receiver too. It was Trey McBride as your main focal point for the offense. So yeah, you build a- Did you see McBride's text to La Porta, though? The second that he got petting, McBride texted LaPorta and said, you're going to love it, you're going to eat. I'm sure some of that is true, but the target competition, I mean, you've got Ammoner-Raw-St. St. Brown there, first of all, that's, that's, Tray McBride was the leader of more percent of the targets. Trey McBride was the target leader for the Cardinals by a wide margin.

That's not even in the realm of possibility for Leporta. The thing that I would counterpoint you with just for the sake of conversation is that Sam Leporta was the number one overall tight in before, and it wasn't on targets. It wasn't getting targets like McBride. It was on touchdowns. He had 10 touchdowns in his rookie season, ended up number one at the position. He does have double-digit touchdown upside. He did say sneaky shot at Titan 1. It's not going to be likely when competing with the high target guys.

But if you told me next year, Sam Leporta scores 13 times or something, that's not outside the realm of possibility. Certainly. I mean, the offense and being able to score touchdowns, Leporta is a very good player. I guess I'm just saying I don't believe that it is simply a scheme. fit from petting. I don't think petting's going to come over and do what he did with the Cardinals scheme

with the lion scheme. The lions are a run first team with Aminara St. Brown as the possession receiver. That's not going to wholesale change. Obviously, the touchdowns could be there. All right, we'll go on to another question here from YouTube. Hey, ballers, love the show. What is your guys

temperature check on Titan Grande Gadsen? Is that the nickname? Ariana Grande. Gadsden. What is the temp check on Gadsden? I think it is I would say that it's an interesting player to talk about. I'll put it there. Yeah, especially for Dynasty Leagues. 22 years old, had a stretch run as a rookie where he in a four-game stretch, he had 377 receiving yards, which would be the most for any rookie

in a four-game stretch of all time. But he had the MVP at quarterback, right? That's right. He did have a one-vote MVP getter. he's a fascinating conversation because he passed the film test the eyeball test he was so big and fast and we all yeah i mean is we all fell in love right away when it looked like a break i was happening and then he kind of vanished and poofed away now you have some injuries that caused his emergence. But is Keenan Allen back? Is Keenan Allen gone? Obviously, Quentin Johnston disappeared for a little while while Gadsden was good. I don't know that there's enough similar to Leporta. Is he going to be able to be high enough in the pecking order with Ladd-McConkey

and- It's just talent. It's just talent to me. You know, that's what you can bank on. You have a new offense with a new offensive coordinator. McDaniel is where... I mean, you have no offensive line last year. Not a lot of what you saw on the field from that offense is going to be repeatable moving forward, I think, for Los Angeles. So that doesn't mean that Gadsden breaks out or doesn't. But I will

say that what he was capable of doing in that stretch was super impressive to me. And if an offensive coordinator like McDaniel has the ability to do what he did with Darren Waller in late stages of career, to be able to be able to use Janu and turn a

into a superstar at the end of a season. I think McDaniels is going to look at him and say, this is a special, unique athlete I can use in some capacity. Yeah, he really is. And I will say that even though it started with the Quentin Johnston injury in week six, there's always the, I mean, there's the opportunity that a player misses a season. And when you've got a tight end that can be that athletic and fill that void, certainly, because week six, he missed.

and that was basically the breakout week for Gadsden, seven receptions for 68 yards. And then the next two weeks, Kuge was back, but this was right off the injury. It was seven for 164 in a touchdown and five for 77 in a touchdown. So if Kuge were to go down.

What a three game run and then just gone. Well, then the next game, five for 77. The next game after that, five for 68. I mean, he, he's really good. I don't know why it went away. I don't know if it was the offensive line injury. or...

Well, that was a lot of it. They had to play more blocking type of tight ends. I mean, my temperature is... Luke, room... It's like a room temperature. Yeah, is he...

He's in your dynasty pass tradeaway candidates? Yeah, because I think, like, I can... I can sell Gadsden. Like, I can make some hype and explain why it's a great opportunity, which I feel like that is... you can make it like you can sell the hype right now i mean it's not like overwhelming hype but

there's in dynasty people are paying attention you can sell that as opposed to i think the the chances of it truly working yeah i'm curious where you guys had him ranked we obviously just put together our dynasty rankings for the ultimate draft kit those are out you can look at them i've got my rankings pulled up in front but i've got them as a top 12 dynasty tight end i i'm i'm pretty optimistic. If I had to shoot my shot, I would go get him. Yeah, I have more on that side. I haven't at eight. He's 20. He's 22 years old and again, we're looking

through this filter of strictly the fantasy production a lot of the times. He had that run. You remember he got banged up. Then it got cold for a little while, but you have some nice games mixed in there towards the end of the season. 61 yards, four catches. The athleticism at 22 years

old, to me, it screams weapon. Yeah. So I guess I lean a little bit more. on the buy side. But, you know, sometimes you watch a tight-in and you say you just make a decision. Got a couple good ones coming out in the draft this year, too. Yeah. So we'll be having this conversation again.

It should be pretty fun. All right. On the other side of Mike McDaniels, Nasty writes in and says, how far will the mighty Devon A. Chan fall? 24 years old, entering the final year of his rookie contract. No more to a tongue-a-law. more Mike McDaniels. All right.

Do I keep saying it like Jason did? You keep, you keep, he's got it. Mike McDaniel. Yeah. He's got it in my head. It's Mike's McDaniel. Right. Okay.

It's Mike's McDaniel. Thank you. It wasn't his year so much as it was your year. H.N. is a very difficult evaluation right now. Versus startup ranking. Because we, dynasty ranking.

We've seen enough. H.N. is a difference making running back. he's a star. Yes, he's a star player. But things change. When all of a sudden someone else is getting your goal line carries. Or, you know, your high value touches go down.

You're talking about Olly Golein Jr? Yes, like these things can be changed up with a new coaching staff and new philosophy. Where is he in your dynasty startup rankings? I'm going to go. Jason, that running back. Within the running back position, I have him as my running back seven, which is below. low. You have him behind Hampton?

I have him behind Hampton, yeah. I have him at four. Yeah, that's, I think, where he is. He's at three, but I see Hampton right there. And that's a, if I had to pick them, if I'm in a startup draft, Hampton or H.N, that's brutal. Yeah, I think this is one of the situations where my advice on HN will be not far. And ignore the noise.

Yeah, I would be letting it ride. I think I'm going to go with a superstar like this. He is. He's that good, man. He is too good to be only scheme dependent. He has established himself as the best offensive player on the Miami Dolphins. So whatever coach comes in, it doesn't matter who it is. You're going to look at your roster and say, well, who am I building around?

You're going to build around H-N, period. Like full stop, he's too good to just be like, well. Do you get 87 targets, 85-5? target. So that's the, to me it's touchdowns. Touchdowns is the big deal. If you look at his end of season, okay, the last three games you had no Tua. That was when Tua got benched, and he was still very good, but he didn't get any touchdowns during that stretch. You're talking about running back 13, 15, 18. If you're the running back 13, 15, 18 every single week, you're, you're having a great season, but you're not a difference maker. The games before that, when he was with Tua,

He was running back 2, 7, 4, 8. You know, he was more of a top end high production guy getting touchdowns as well as yardage and passes. So will he be super involved? Yes. Is he extremely talented and will score a ton of fantasy points? Yes. Will, without Tua and a new system in what looks to be kind of a rebuilding year for the Dolphins, will he be able to be like a top four running back in fantasy?

I'm doubtful. And then what happens at that point? point as a free agent, where'd he go? He is the most consistent running back in football from a, like, 100% of his games. This year, yeah. He's an A this year. And the team sucked most of the season.

The nice thing about him, what box do you want to check with a running back? Pass catching. Yeah, can he catch the ball? Can he catch a ball? Can he break a long touchdown? Oh, just all the time. Just all of the time. You know, this was somebody people really, really doubted drafting highly in drafts going into this year and whether it was going to work. So it'll be it'll be interesting.

I don't know who their quarterback's going to be right now. Is it going to be Quinn Ewers? I don't know if that's where they're going moving forward. Which teams are tanking for Arch? Yeah. And who do you do you bring in? Do you? Yeah, do you roll with yours? Do you bring in a bridge quarterback and it's a mobile guy? And then all of a sudden you're like, oh crap. Is H.N. going to get 40 to 50 targets? It's a big. deal. To expand the conversation, you look at the dynasty, the startup rankings at running back, right? And the three I have ahead of them be John, Gibbs, Gentie, right?

But you look behind and you have question marks for a lot of those guys, right? Like Jonathan Taylor in a dynasty is three years older than Devon A-chan without a quarterback. And we don't like Jonathan Taylor without a quarterback right now. We'll see. He was a lot different player when Daniel Jones is quarterback. And in Hampton, is the sample size big enough for you?

They're not that. I mean, I know he's younger than H.M., but it's a year, a year and a half, whatever. It's like, is that a difference maker enough for you to take him over H.N. And hope that he is what we think he is. A lot of good questions.

Travion's in that same discussion. What the heck is Bucky Irving? 23 years old? Quinchan Junkins, Monster, 22 years old. I think Dynasty Running Backs is a pretty fun, fun area, fun discussion. As long as I'm right about everything so that my teams are good. That's the important part.

Fantasy running back, man, it changes so rapidly. Which is, ironically, that's where age versus contract, you know, you talk about the two years difference in Hampton. Stable position in Los Angeles for them. Yeah. So it's one of those like, you. Yeah, you're only two years younger or older, but how many years do you have left on your current contract? Like Jonathan Taylor just got a big new contract,

so that's helpful when you're 27. You have fewer worries. A. Chan end up with a big contract in Miami? Because he's going to, it's a... He will end up with a big contract somewhere. Like, to me, this is like... Miami. I don't know. I don't think so. What's Gibbs contract situation?

He's got to be up for it. I mean, him and A. Chan are probably both up for it this year. year. Right? Yeah, Gibbs is going into year four. So he'll have the, you know, his fifth year option will get picked up. But this is, this is about when you start rewarding players. All right. Elite players anyways. Let's take a quick break. Come back with some more questions. From the website, Brad and Mesa, Arizona on the Andy side of the desk, what is up with Newman's glasses? What is up with Newman's head? Oh, no, Newman. Newman. Newman is decapitated by

Andy. Well, the ground did that part. Oh, that's true. Spirit Ballers episode that released yesterday, we had some debates where I was exceptionally accurate and right about them and these guys were

buffoons and it was all about ice cream. And I got a little out of control and I may have knocked him off the desk. I don't know what's happened with his glasses. Those are long gone. He can't see anything right now. No, no. But that's what happened. Noah.

It happened because Andy doesn't really know anything about Miixen's. Yes. That's true. I'll just let people go find out why you said that. Noah from Instagram, Brian Thomas Jr. Or Marvin Harrison, Jr.

Next year. Oh, yes. Yeah. Oh, that's sticky, stinky nasty stuff. Do you imagine,

I mean, that combo for a dynasty team, you thought you were set for 10, 15 years? You were with. with the Eagles, bro. You were soaring. And now you're like,

ooh, no. I, what? You have to go one of them, right? That's because, okay, Lawrence and the offense. That's who I'd prefer to bet on. The Liam Cohen

DeVille system seems to be very good for fantasy football, except he was in it this year while everyone was having success around him. What I was going to say is you have to go Marv. That's what I thought I was going to say. But I don't know if that's the right answer.

But that's how I want to answer it. I'm going. I'm going Brian Thomas. I've got Marv. I want to make sure my right. I've got Marv quite a few spots ahead of Brian Thomas. Marvin Harrison. Oh, they're back to back. I just got flip one spot, guys. Yeah, I think it's a shoot.

I got Brian Thomas Jr. two spots ahead. A little bit more of an easy Marvin Harrison. Can I make them both lower? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Brian Thomas Jr. played the whole season and didn't do hardly anything other than drop a ton of targets early in the year. Let me show you this Marv guy.

And then get usurped and then get usurped by Parker Washington and, you know, the system. Marvin Harrison got injured, tried to play through it, couldn't, then missed a chunk of the season in his sophomore year. to me, I feel like Marvin Harrison is maybe a good trade four target because people are viewing him as a bust. And I don't think he is. Yeah. And I don't think he is established. We already know one of Jason's my guys. I don't think he has established himself as a bust.

Let me give you funny numbers, okay? They better make me laugh. Yeah. So Marv missed four games. Not funny. Yeah, not funny. Brian Times Jr. missed three. BTJ ended 48 for 707, Marv ended 41 for 608.

Yeah, I mean, kind of. A couple of farts. Yeah, I mean, it was bad. But from the injury, um... How about before the injury? He was on pace for 990, 64 for 990? All right. Before the injury?

Yeah. I mean, if he got 10 more yards and hit 1,000, would you say... No. No, 1,000's not that impressed. Who's playing... Just to dumb everything down in the new... Arizona offense. Who's Puka? I mean, look, who's Michael Wilson?

Between Marv and Michael? I think you're asking the same question. Yes. But I asked it first. I think you are asking that right question. And I think it is, to me, it's Michael Wilson is much more of a threat right now. Could Marv become that? Does Marv getting the clean slate? Because this is one or two directions for Marv this year. There's either year three figures it out and it works.

you've got a better coordinator and then his dad and everybody can say, look, this was the problem. It wasn't my son. The other option is the, like, they get in the stamp and they're hitting the pad and they're putting bust down on the piece of paper. You go three years? Yeah. Draft it in the top five? Brian Thomas has at least done it. So I would go that direction.

Dude, I don't like this. I want in-season back. I feel like this question was written by. by Mike. Instagram question from t. dot y. How many championships total for each person on the pod?

Oh, I did not ask this question. Let's just do the most important league. League of record. I have four. In that league, 4.3, 2. Yeah. Andy is the 3.

I am the 2. Yep. 4.3.2. 4 is the most of. If you go to our dynasty league, it's 2-2, right? Correct. Yes.

Yeah. whewf, whoof. And Al's got one back there. Oh, Josh. Are you one? League of record or two. Let's go, Ducer's Al. One on league and one in Dino.

All right. And if you go to Dino Jr., then Mike and I dominate that with our three in a row. This question is stupid. It won't make you laugh. It'll make you cry. New Wallace. Would you ever let the Falcon host?

Wow. Would you ever drink poison? Oh my gosh. Would we let the house? Would you ever make a reclining chair out of cactus? I mean, host what? The show? No, no.

Don't start that. Hold on. Hold on. All right. Go to the deucey cam. Matt. Marvin Harrison Jr. or Brian Thomas Jr.

in a dynasty league. Which one do you want and why? Uh, Marv. And I don't know why exactly. I'd probably just go draft capital. okay perfect Mike excellent work we have

answered your question that was outstanding that was outstanding amazing all right at least we didn't get a bleh blah he Salazar wants did Marf plan I thought for a second

I thought for a second I thought I was going to have me I thought for say he said Marvin Harrison and just didn't answer anything beyond that and I think he honestly forgot and then heard the follow up question of his mind of And why? He's getting married pretty soon.

I am worried about him up on that altar. Yeah. You're not doing your own vows, right? You just have to say, I do. No, you've got the... I do, bleat. Oh, man. Okay.

Yeah, I'm not... You got to make sure there's a good film crew there. Oh, yeah. There's going to be some special... Put the pressure on. Prediction for the number one overall pick next year. East Alazar writes in number one overall fantasy pick. Bejean.

Bejon. Yeah. I'll say that I don't have any problem with people taking one of the three wide receivers. Correct. One of the three wide receivers, which would be Jamar Chase, Pooka and JASN. And JASN. And JASN. Scott writes in, do you think the retreading of NFL coaches is caused by the lack of a desire and talent of college coaches wanting to go to the NFL? Life's all right as a college coach. I'm going to say that right now. You can get paid some big money. I don't think it's that. It's a different game.

Yes, it's much different. Your skills and talents and abilities, I mean, you've got to be able to, like, really, you've got to be able to recruit players in college. I don't think it is that it's just, it's a really, really hard, demanding job. And you are publicly scrutiny. Not you're rewarded handsomely with money,

but you're in the public eye, And you, more often than not, just have everyone telling you how much they hate you and how bad you are at your job. Which job? The college one or the pro one? The pro one. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, coaching in general is just the craziest career. It just is. Like, all jobs, all coaches are to get fired. That's just part, if part of your job is to regularly move on, you either get fired or move on. There's not like a permanence to any of it. It's a hard life to have. a family with. Right. You're moving around the country all the time, raising your kids in

different cities and getting run out of town and getting things written about your dad in the newspaper. And even if you're not, even if you're not a head coach, I mean, let's say you're an assistant. Okay, you're good. Well, then you move on and up. So maybe you move teams. Let's say you're fine. You're not bad. You're not going to get fired. The head coach is going to get fired. What happens when he gets fired? You're gone. The staff is gone. Yeah. It's just, this is a, that is a, that is a, yuck, yuck job. I mean, yeah. That's one way to put it.

I would personally, if I could choose, I would choose to be the owner of the franchise. It's the kind of job coaching where you could win like, I don't know, six Super Bowls and not even make the Hall of Fame. Not even get the respect of the Hall of Fame. That is going to do it. Ultimate draft kit.com for the pre-order right here, right now. Go over there.

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