Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Surprising Teams + Fizzle Picks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/18

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

Fantasy Football show for June 18th, 2026. Which NFL teams will surprise the most in 2026? Fantasy football hot takes, underdogs, and more on today’s podcast! Plus, the latest NFL News, and players who may “fizzle out” after the 2026 fantasy football season. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. 2026 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com Get MEGALASHOW tickets at BallersLive.com (00:00) Intro (04:25) Surprising Teams for 2026 (04:55) New Orleans Saints (08:20) Miami Dolphins (13:25) Tennessee Titans (16:55) NFL News (29:20) Mailbag (30:00) Fizzle out players (35:45) DJ Moore dynasty value (37:05) Luther Burden or Marvin Harrison Jr? (41:05) Jeanty and Bowers on the same fantasy team? (41:55) Brock Bowers or Saquon Barkley? (43:50) Hot Takes (47:50) Keep/Trade/Cut - Skattebo/Tuten/Judkins (48:35) Eliminating Kickers in dynasty (50:40) Gunnar Helm (52:50) Drafting at the turns Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Thursday, June 18th, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Welcome in to the show. Should be a fun one today. I'm going to talk about some surprising teams for the upcoming year. In fact, I just saw the, I think the, the, the, the betting odds on coach of the year candidates.

Yes. Before the show, it was John Harbaugh. It makes total sense. With the Giants. And then it was... Was it Minter? Yes. With the Ravens.

Mentor with the Ravens. And then it was Sala. Yeah. So, you know, the Ravens have been winners, but, you know, the opportunity to take a step forward, maybe, with the new head coach and the other two teams, turn around teams. Right? I mean, the Giants. you know, I think that's got to be the coach of the year situation that's most often, you know, it's a team that was bad that turns it around.

It is funny to think about the Raven, like the opposition, you know, of Ravens fans, their coach, I mean, the team parted ways with Harbaugh, but he immediately goes and gets a job. And so you're like, do they want him to succeed? He might be far enough away from them that they do. Okay. I don't think they'd do. If that was, it's kind of like when Andy Reid left Philadelphia and went far, far away to the AFC. You know, to me it's a bigger deal if they stay in the conference.

Certainly. But I don't know. I would imagine Ravens fans, I'm not a Ravens fan, but I would imagine I love John Harbaugh and no hard feelings. Maybe. I mean, he brought you a Super Bowl. Yeah. So I, you know, Andy Reid had a Philly fans feel by Andy Reid. they never he never got them one yeah he got he got ran out of town yeah

it well they they knew that he could win in the regular season but he he can't win a super bowl no will never happen can't do that but they're fine because they went they went and got their own so they're like whatever we're fine on tuesday we announced uh the megalus show our live event of the entire site summer in Phoenix, the fantasy footballers live, the megalish show presented by Sirius X-Sim is sponsored by GMC and PetSmart. If you haven't picked up tickets yet, because they are selling very quickly. There are still some good, I mean, honestly, the venue is, they're all great tickets,

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We're not 100% sure it's going to be allowed. The venue is, it doesn't have the height. It's got a mezzanine. It does. It doesn't have the height that the palace theater in Los Angeles had. And I think if I shoot this to, let's just call it, ground level, from the stage, I think I will kill people. And so, I don't know. We're looking to do insurance policies.

I don't really like any of that stuff you just said. He'll bank it off the roof if he has to. I mean, they're T-shirts. What's the worst that can happen? With an apple inside. I like them apples. Bow! All right.

I'm here to feed the food clan. Maybe Mike will have the T-shirt can. That's all I'm saying. But we have some special stuff plan for the show. It'll be a perfect way to kick off the season. Friday, August 28th, ballers live.com. The Ultimate Draft Kits available right now at Ultimate DraftCit.com. Quick question of the day.

I mentioned it. What team do you think will surprise the most this season? Three different answers here. Mike, you went with a team. Mine is disgusting. I mean, my real answer. My real answer is Jason's answer, but I have gone on and on about them. So I'll let someone else talk about it.

But you want me to go first? Well, now you teased, you know, you teed up Jason. let Jason give the team that you apparently had in first place but couldn't claim quick enough. Yeah, I mean, I do think when I was looking at teams that I liked to have a bounce back, to have a surprise, I was between two. One was the Raiders, who I think they're going to be better than we expect, but they're in such a tough division. It's going to be really difficult for them to actually surprise and, oh man, they're going to the playoffs. And the other was the New Orleans Saints. and they are in the perfect division where all four teams could win that division.

That's part of it. The other part is Tyler Shuck. I mean, if you don't remember how last year went, let me read you how last year went for the Saints. They had a snake man named Spencer Rattler, and it went, loss, loss, loss, loss, win, loss, loss, then they made a change at quarterback and went five and four the rest of the way with Tyler Shuck. he's able to lead this team. I think they added great pieces in the draft. We talked about Kellynne Moore and his pace of play and how that works for the offense.

And from a fantasy perspective, I do think that the offensive speed with, you know, assuming Tyson ever gets his hamstring tight on or whatever they need to do there, I think the Saints are going to be a good team. And so a lot of times, I mean, this could really. really impacts, say, Travis H. Jan Jr. We want, you know, running backs who are winning more. Like last year, I believe the Saints trailed on 77% of their offensive plays. That's not running back success.

And so if they flip over and you go, oh, this is a team that, hey, they won nine games, that's going to be more success for the running back. That's an interesting. I mean, the Saints are, I think, a team we're all rooting for. I would agree with that. I think that division, like, are they a good team or are they the best team in the division? I'm not sure those are the same thing. I look at that stretch rundown at the end of the year.

They beat Tampa Bay, Carolina, the Jets, Tennessee for that four-game winning streak. Carolina was the other win in that stretch. Everything else was a loss. They're going to play those teams again. Yeah, they'll play Carolina and Tampa. Kyle shared a graphic that just made me laugh. It was all four teams in that division. the Falcons, the Panthers, the Saints in Tampa Bay,

all with a thought bubble above their head that says, wow, this division sucks. Thank God I'm the only good team here. Because you can 100% make the argument for every team in that division. Like I can see Carolina, I can make that argument why they can win the division. Definitely can do it with Tampa Bay and what their personnel is. I think the hardest argument is probably Atlanta, but from a skill position standpoint, Bejan, Drake, London,

if they can figure the quarterback position out. But no, I think the Saints, because of the division, because of the youth, that they added another weapon for Tyler Shuck, certainly a team that is primed to surprise. I think the Saints can have a one at every single position. As a QB1, wide receiver, RB, and tight-end one. For fantasy purposes, yeah. They better win.

That's the path. Mike, you said you had a disgusting team. Because I want to bring them up. They just, they're not talked about really ever, as you will see by the 80P, but it's the Miami Dolphins. Oh. And it's like, I mean, the big splash that starts at the time. I have another Malik brother? Well, Malik Willis is, I love him as a, as a late round pick.

He right now is quarterback 18 is what I'm seeing. So this is, that is the, that is late round quarterback. Like, if you are, you should be drafting him even if you. drafted someone high. 100% as a second quarterback stash him. If he starts every game, there's 0% chance he finishes at 18.

Correct. Right. This is what, when the strategy really started to take off, it was, you know, and shout out to J.J. Zacharisa, a great friend of the show.

He put his PDF out. And it like, it kind of changed the landscape where it was telling people, you can put together, you can piecemeal together production at the quarterback position, late in your draft,

especially when guys are mobile. And now you need them to be, like they have to give you production through the air to become elite. But if they are a mobile quarterback, they're going to finish as a top 12 guy. It's just going to happen. And it was always, you can get these guys late because no one's really interested. People are not interested in Malik Willis. The way I thought he would be like 1314. So the fact that he's going this late, it, you know, we have.

I haven't done enough. I'm here with you. I'm here with you. It's just, I think the tough thing and the reason he won't rise is because there are no weapons. Yes. So you have A-chan who he's going as a top 10 running back right now, RB8. After that, it is pure nothing. And in fact, the 80 p I'm seeing right now is rookie Chris Bell is the highest draft of wide receiver.

Meanwhile, if you're paying attention to the beat reporters, Malik Washington's going to be the top target at the wide receiver position, at least the way that things are unfolding with the early camp. Normally when a team has vacated targets, they have the most vacated targets in the league. The fantasy community will- 53% of their targets and 78% of their air yards are gone. And normally we'll pick somebody and at least one, two names get elevated for taking a shot. And right now that has happened not at all.

I'm curious, Kyle, look this up if you can. I'm curious what the lowest ranked number one wide receiver for a team is like ever. Like in the last decade? Like in the last, if they played, say, 16 games or 15, you know, I'm just curious. Oh, you mean end of season? End of season. Like, what team has had the lowest, like, until their first wide receiver was taken? Because right now they're undrafted.

Yeah, they're all undrafted. But I'm wondering if we look that up and assuming health, because I'm sure there's teams where no one was really healthy and they, you know, they finished. their best one finished as Water Super 88. But I would imagine if guys are healthy, it's very difficult to have an NFL team, not in the top like 50. But we'll see. Kyle's a robot. Well, nobody said anything nice about Miami all offseason.

So I'm glad that you're doing this. Greg Dolcich, I've brought him up before, is a very deep sleeper at the tight end position, who, I mean, not outrageous production towards the end of the year, but he ended with a string of success for the team. And then I wanted to bring up a name, who has, like, he became a curse name. Is Bobby Sloick, who was the OC for C.J. Stroud's rookie year.

And you had the breakout. And that year, if you recall, you had Ben Johnson, you have Bobby Sloick. They are the bell of the ball. They could go to any team they want. The two future stars. Both of them stay put. Ben Johnson has another monster year with the Lions, and the Texans really fall off. Why I'm bringing that up is maybe it wasn't here.

Maybe it wasn't Bobby. Sloick, who took, he took all the smoke, all the heat of the Texans offensive failures from that second year went to Bobby Sloick. But he wasn't there last year. Correct. And Stroud would look like, I mean, fantasy wise, Stroud was, uh, at points per game, I guess he was slightly better than his sophomore year, but it was not, that wasn't the strength of the team.

So I'm just bringing it up of like, well, let's go back, 4,10023 out of C. Stroud, his rookie year, and it has just fallen, it's gotten worse, you know, as we're going. So maybe Bobby Slowick wasn't the huge problem. If Malik Willis works, he will be, like, he'll be really solid for fantasy. I have no question with A-chan. And it's like, and the money that they just spent on A-chan, to me is, you know, you've got to follow it. Okay, we've got to keep him on the field.

He's not a player who you can overload with carries. You can overload him with targets. But so it's just pay attention to this team because there is the 80. P's here are just ridiculous. Chris Bell, wide receiver 92, and then just no one else. Well, the final team, my team for the surprise of 2026. By the way, our three teams, Miami was 25th in points per game last year. Jason's, New Orleans Saints, 28th in points for game. My team was 30th at some points for game. So we're talking all three of them, bottom third offenses, opportunities to fix it at the quarterback position, and on the offensive side,

it's the Tennessee Titans. I still believe in Cam Ward. I certainly believe in Brian Dable. We talked about Robert Sala, third leading candidate for Coach of the Year potential. Sala not concerned with Cam Ward's inaccuracy. There was a comical report that Sala is not concerned about the apparent report of OTA inaccurate passes. I'm like, Mike's like, you should be concerned about completing, completing passes. If not your primary concern is that your quarterback is accurate.

Traditionally, year two is a good bet for quarterbacks to take a step forward. The last decade has seen top 10 quarterbacks average 2.6 more fancy points per game in year two. Cam Ward had a nice end to the season where he reduced the turnovers, was throwing some touchdowns. You have added Carnal Tate where, you know, some offseason. you know, rookies have had hype, some haven't. Everything about Carnal Tate has been glowing.

They had Wondale Robinson. To me, this offense with Brian Dable is primed to have success. And, you know, it's not the same as the, you know, the Saints inside of that south, but it's not,

it's not a division you couldn't see a team making a move in. Like Houston, their defense is incredible. What is their offense? Indianapolis. Are they going to be able to do what they did last year with Daniel Jones? He's coming back from injury. Jacksonville, I think we've all, we all have high expectations, but Trevor Lawrence

is disappointed as before. So I think they have the pieces to do it. The whole, this, this one rests to me entirely on Cam Ward. Like, if Cam Ward plays like he did last year, the pieces are, are not going to matter. But he does have, like, adding Cornell Tate and Wondale Robinson, I really like their option to take a massive step forward. They've done everything right to give Cam Ward what he needs. Now will he be able to perform? I'm skeptical. Yeah, and I know we're all going to be watching

because this was a 3 and 14 team last year. But those are three teams, I think we believe could have surprising years. And with that comes, you know, Mike brought up that nobody's being drafted in Miami. Yeah, so you don't have to do very much at all. But nobody's being drafted really other than like Carnell Tate is like a six-round pick right now. You don't, nobody's drafted in the running backs. in Tennessee. Wondale's a 10th round pick, and that's it. I mean,

Cam Ward is undrafted. So if these teams take step forwards, specifically in what I mentioned, 25th, 28th, and 30th and points per game, you get to the middle of the pack, you're going to have more relevant fantasy play. I think Tony Pollard is, right now, he's not a high ceiling

type of player, but in certain builds, like we were talking about zero R.B, depending on how far he's falling in a draft, you can get a starter who's one of the only guys who's like rushed for a thousand yards in the last handful of seasons. And if the team takes a step forward and he has more touchdown opportunities, it could be

a value for a floor play. Absolutely. All right. We'll take a break and we'll jump into the news. News and notes from around the league. See, I thought maybe they put the helmets out on the table of the surprise teams because I saw Miami show up here. I saw Vegas over there, Jason mentioned Vegas.

But then I saw this team. I saw the Jets up here. And none of us said that. None of us said the Jets. I could see it happening. I'm not pessimistic about, I'm, of course, pessimistic about the Jets' future as a franchise the same way, just because they're a bad franchise. But I could see them surprising this year. They have so many good offensive weapons. Yeah, Jason.

That was the completion of my thoughts. Jason could see that. Yeah. You are a big Gino fan. I just want you to know that. I want you to know what you are. Okay. And you are a big Gino fan.

Take it on the chin. So congrats on that. We'll get you a jersey. Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby plans to enter the NFL supplemental draft. Okay. This is a big deal. So he was embroiled in the gambling scandal that basically knocked him out of eligibility. Then he sued the school and then he dropped the lawsuit and entered the supplemental draft.

And that's a really short summary of what happened. I think he had bet over $90,000 over $90,000 over. you know, on his team when he was with Indiana and then other games and none of it was good. Did he win? But don't ask. I just want to know if he's got a good head on his shoulders because it doesn't sound like it. Ask Pete Rose if they won. The point being, he's going to enter the supplemental draft, which is something we've never really had to talk about much on this show before

because the players entering it weren't really very interesting. Sorsby was a projected first or second round pick in next year's draft. If he had a good season at Texas Tech, most pundits would say he was probably going to have a chance at being in the top 10 of next year's draft. So for the first time, in a long time, this is a player that has the chance to be drafted in the NFL supplemental draft. And when you do that, a team will be exchanging a 2027 draft pick for Brendan Sorsby. And that pick could be a second. It could be a third. We don't know.

It's really all over. The rumors are all over. Yeah. The last thing I saw this morning was that, think, you know, some people think one team will give up a second for him. I think third is all but guaranteed.

That's high draft capital. And so for fantasy and the future, like he was a good prospect. And so... He's a dual threat quarterback. 18 touchdowns in two years. Yeah, a lot of rushing yards. He's a true dual threat. So for fantasy purposes, he is a name that you would... Like, if he were to have been a first round

draft pick in next year's pick in next year's draft, this would be someone in Superflex that is going at the top of draft. So we had a big, big conversation on the dynasty show that came out last week on Wednesday. If you listen to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast about what do you do if your rookie draft is over right now, which most Dynasty leagues have already done the rookie draft. But now this guy's going in because you've got to figure that out.

If you're in any Dynasty League, you're going to have to figure that out. Does it go to waivers? Do you have another supplemental draft of your own? Does he go into next year? There's a lot of options. I didn't hear the conversation. I want to see where you ended up because I have a third option potentially. Okay.

That just popped in my head and you guys can debunk it. But one of the challenges, and tell me where you ended up, the challenge is, if you just throw him in the 2027 draft, then he's completely ineligible for teams this year. Because your rookie draft is already taking place. And if you put him in the 2027 rookie draft, I think is fine as an option. He's not likely to be drafted and then start and make a difference, but maybe. So that's an option, right? the other option is to execute like a supplemental style draft like the NFL does.

That has its own challenges. Tell me where you ended up because I have another idea. I think we ended up with doing it just like the NFL does it with supplemental drafts where basically what you do is everyone does a blind bid on, you know, if you want him, you're giving up next year's pick. You can give up next year's second, next year's third. And then essentially whoever had the higher, and this is exactly what the NFL does, whoever had the higher pick in this year's draft, the worst order, if two teams were to bid a second,

then whoever was the worst team this year gets them just like it was a draft. He'd have the first pick in that round. And theoretically, he then will be giving up a higher pick in next year's draft. So that's where we landed as the preferred option, but we did give three totally legit options. I don't mind that. I think that's fine. I think it gets a little, it could get complicated if a lot of, pick movement has already happened for future years, right?

I guess. Yeah, you have to have the pick to bid it. Right. So if you don't have your own pick, but you have somebody else's too. It's messy for the NFL. What about this? Just came up with it. Top of my head, probably dumb.

What if it was just in-season fab budget, active for Sorsebee? Well, you can, but not everyone has fab. Some people just do priority. Yeah, I wouldn't apply to them. The solution doesn't apply to those that do not have fab. I'm just saying, I was just thinking about it. If we all have our $100 in-season fab, a lot of people have off-season fab, but we wouldn't be talking about that.

But if you just said everybody in our dynasty league today has their $100 in-season fab to bid, I think that would be, you think people are going 100? No. So, I mean, I think that's an open, free market to do that. And obviously, you should not be doing this until after the NFL supplemental draft. He still has to get approved. What do you want? And drafted.

Yeah. What do you want, which, by the way, he's got a pro day coming up, I think, in July. What do you think we should do in our dynasty league? Mike. Like right this moment. The fact that we offer in in season fab, I think that's perfectly fine. See, that seems really clean to me.

And, you know, ours, we're in a single quarterback league, so they're, I mean, I'm not, I'm not on the side of anticipating an NFL team is going to spend a third or a second, maybe a third. But on a guy who

just got marked ineligible, to play in college football. I know the judge overturned it, but for gambling. Yeah. Like, this is a, this is a big, big, big, no-no in the NFL to have a player anywhere associated

with betting. If you, I mean, because if a team exchanges a third, it's not like they're giving up a first. There's not a guarantee to production for him in the future. You know, Carson Beck was a third round pick. If you told me, Carson Beck is available for in-season fab. He's not going for much. No, correct. I think,

I think that is somewhere where that's an interesting way to do it if you want him to have eligibility for this year. If you don't care about that, throw him into 2027. If you have a pretty clean future dynasty draft situation in 2027, do it that way. It's funny. As long as we've done this show, this is, I don't think ever been, because the only two

relevant guys in the past were Terrell Pryor and Josh Gordon. Shout out to Josh Gordon. Second round supplemental pick. But that was, that was before the show. Also a dominant player. For a year. Yeah.

I don't think we had him back then. No, gambling wasn't quite what it is to know. And marijuana wasn't quite what it is to. Correct. The rules were very different back then. Denver Post is reporting R.J. Harvey underwent surgery this offseason to repair a torn laborum. He suffered in the championship game loss. Mike, how does that make you feel? It makes your shoulder.

It makes me. It doesn't concern me. You don't think a shoulder would be important for a player who hits people with his shoulder all the time? Not as important as the legs in which. he will use to run. Like, I'm not concerned about a shoulder injury getting better. I mean, it's, it doesn't change where my stance was on Harvey versus Dobbins. And the, we just got more, and I know it's, we're in the coach speak era, but,

Coleman got, Coleman's getting talked up. Oh, is he? See, this is. I thought you were going to say J.K. Dobbins is going to get talked up by himself, which he did. He said he's going to be the number one. He made us a promise. He said it'll be the number one running back.

No injuries. I'm going to tell you this right. now, Mike. If you want to take advice that will guaranteed payoff, you should make Jacob Dobbins of my guy. Why is that? Because it's just going to work. And you've been talking about it. I'm just telling

you, like, it's going to happen. People know. People know how much I love JK. Yeah, he's great, but I do think that this actually opens the door for Jonah Coleman a little bit. They're going to open training camp and RJ Harvey Harvey is not going to be out there in pads and

full contact. And that's not to say that, you know, when they hit the season, Coleman's going to usurp them. But it just means they're going to see more of Jonah Coleman and what he can do. It's exciting to me as someone who really liked the prospect. How many legs does Coleman and J.K. Dobbins have?

Currently four. Each of them? Is JK. No, I was adding him up. Is it JK2 legs? Is two legs? No, he's back. I was just checking. Currently. He's frequently won? That wasn't, I mean, the funny thing about Dobbins is like

that hasn't been a big part the discussion that you've brought up is the fact that he does always get hurt. And that is, you're like, you can get this starting running back. If you get him for three weeks, that's not good. No, but if you get him for 10 and you got like, you realize that J.K. Dobbins' career rushing yards per carry. Oh, let me guess it. Let me guess it.

Please. 5.2. 5.2. Oh. J.K. Dobbins has a rushing yards per carry average of 5.2. What was the running back on Baltimore that played that got the ball? Derek Henry. No.

Late in the game and had a ridiculous yards per carry for years. Gus Edwards. Before he became a starter. Gus Edwards. Yeah. They'd put him in there and he had like a six yards per carry for three straight years or something. Way to get that in there. I didn't even remember we had that.

You were on that quick. That was really fat. You got a Gus bus button right next to you? Got to be ready. Always. How do you find it that quick? That is impressive. The thing for Coleman, I would say, another issue I have with R.J. Harvey is when J.K. Dobbins inevitably is a liar about getting hurt, because he'll probably get hurt. He promised. He did. I know. I said you can't. You better not have your fingers crossed, Mr. Dobbins. I think Coleman steps into way more work than R.J. Harvey does. That's all part of my analysis of why I just don't like his.

Here's a stat Kyle pulled up since 2000. The only running backs with 500 plus carries with a higher yards per carry than J.K. Dobbins is Devon A. Chan,

Jamal Charles, and Jemir Gibbs. There's no way that J.K. is not real close to 500 on that stat. 5802. As we say, wherever we're drawing that line,

he has to draw it. He has more attempts than A. Chan. From from 2023 to 2025? Wow. Okay. Dovin's is great.

He just has a brittle body. Ladd McConkey has strained his left hamstring during phase two of the Chargers offseason program. He expects to be ready for training camp. That'll be important that he's ready for training camp if he's going to be trying to get into that two-wide receiver mix. My boy, Trey Harris, more opportunities. Chris Olavis is scheduled to go off blood thinners on June 29th. That is what shut down his season right when we said he was going to. to finally play a full season. It wasn't a concussion.

It was a blood clot. That is a concern. And this was, when we had looked into it, it's what Wimby went through too. This was the protocol. I think it was six months. You're on it for six months. And for someone like Oliva, there's no reason. Just leave him on for the full entirety of the treatment. And while you're on it, I mean, you can't. You can't be getting hit.

So he's been essentially held out just doing individual stuff. but June 29th, he is scheduled to get off the blood thinners, and hopefully we get great news about how he looks. I will know. I mean, if he's just regular in training camp, there will be no worries of this at all. All right, it is time to jump into the mailbag. Mailbag.

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BallersLive.com, we will be doing a live mailback. That is one of the traditions of these live shows. It's super fun because people get to ask their questions in person. And they get to sing the mailback. Yes. Yes, and they sing it well. I didn't know what word to

use. Is it sing or does it shout? Say? Let it out. Okay. A voicemail question to kick us off. This is Matt from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Just want to say a huge fan. Quick question. What players do you think are going to fizzle out of the league?

You know how Dalvin Cook and Michael Thomas just kind of just fizzled out? Who do you think is going to fizzle out by next year? Thank you, guys. Love the show. The question was, who is going to fizzle out, players that... I would say injuries played a pretty big part in those guys fizzling out. Yeah, I mean, are we looking for big names or just... anybody.

The biggest names, I would go a relevant name who you're like, people were drafting for fantasy football. Evans or Adams is a relevant name that has the chance to fizzle out. Those would be two that. I'm not saying they will necessarily this year, but they both have the chance to do that. And then you just have, you know. Going through the ADP.

Yeah, I'm looking to, I don't, I mean, Jerry Judy would probably never be heard from again. Yeah. Does that matter? I mean, to B. Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard could certainly fizzle out. Nicholas Singleton and Pollard.

Good. Woody Marks could fizzle out. You may never hear from him again. Oh, Brooks. I mean, there's a chance. Speaking my love language. Brooks is saying D.K. McAfit. He already fizzled out, guys.

Sort of. I mean, I can't really argue with that. You should not sign that money and then lose to Kenny Gainwell in the receiving. Did you say DJ Moore? No, that's a great one. I mean, I think that's the name. where it's like it's still kind of exciting and they'll probably do nothing and never be heard from again is there a quarterback that it that you would say after this year you'll never hear

their name again is there anybody in the starting i mean erin rogers notwithstanding um i mean it's hard to say because he's literally the MVP but at that age when you lose it you lose it you know Peyton went from MVP to just done and it comes with an injury but stashy Stafford is up there. And the player that I will say, um, I am worried about in two years. So it's like, I don't think he's going to fizzle. I think he's going to be great this year. I love him this year. But I think we're near the end for DAC. Um, yeah, Dak is, is, you know, he's, I think he's 36 and a half or something right now. I was going to guess my way. He's older than you think. He's that old. He's 32, Jason. Is he? Yeah. Oh, you don't know. He's younger than we all think. He's super. He's super.

I was like, I'm not in on that one. You take it back. I apologize for calling you 36. Yeah, that's a big deal in football. Yeah, I mean, that's a huge deal. Cameron Artis Payne didn't even lie that much. No, 32.9. Oh, never mind.

He'll be 33. He's 34 the next year. The gray hairs come in at the point nine. When you look at the ages of all of the, when you look at the ages of all the quarterbacks that are currently starting in the NFL, he is, he is the, basically the oldest relevant good like Gino's older who is not already so close to out

you know he's not obviously we're going to go Aaron Rogers and stuff but I'm just saying like he's the next oldest actually currently good quarterback he's 32 man he should play for another five or six years you think you think that but there's not a lot of like there's not there's not a bunch 34 year olds out there they really do kind of drop off there

I mean I know that we got the guys like Stafford and Rogers that pushed past and Tom Brady. But there's plenty of examples of guys that, you know, let me see if I could pull up a list of the quarterback ages. That would be interesting. I think you will not see starts in the NFL from Gino Smith, Aaron Rogers, Kirk Cousins, or Michael Pennix again after this year.

Yeah, Pennix was who I was going to say. And you could maybe throw Kyler Murray into there. Here, let me. So I've got the list right now. Aaron Rogers, obviously super old. Matthew Stafford, Super old. They're about to, Stafford's about to be 40. Rogers is.

Then it's Gino who's old busted. Jacobi. What you love, Gino? Jacoby Burset is the same age as DAC. Jacoby and Dak are both 33, you know, they're going to play 33 years old this year. I mean, that's it. There's not players.

There's not a bunch of guys that push through that. We haven't looked into it enough to, like, I don't know if that's just a gap in good quarterback play. Sure. I don't know if it's 33-year-old that flamed out or there just weren't any players in that tier. I mean, the good ones, they play a long time. I consider, I mean, is Dak? I mean, Philip Rivers played a long time, obviously.

Big Ben played a lot longer than that. I don't know whether you count DAC in that category. I think Dak can play into his upper tennis. I mean, when did Matt Ryan play till? 36? I do not. I mean, that would be another one of those. I was trying to see ages of like pro bowl quarterbacks, which is what Doc is.

A quarterback who, again, these are like trying to pick a name where you're like, well, no, they can't do that. But it happens every year. He's in the last year of his contract is Baker Mayfield. If the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have massive struggles this year, there's a world I think where they just clean everything out. I would be really shocked if Baker plays. Well, that's the point. No, I'm saying I will be shocked if Baker plays this year and without getting a contract. There's been talks recently of them extended him.

I might have just Cortland Sutton to this thing. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be interesting. Next question comes in. Another DJ more related question from Nick. What is a reasonable return for DJ more in a dynasty league? I'm a middle of the pack team. If you can get a two, I would take it.

Yeah, that's where I'd be aiming, just to try to get a two. 27-2 should be good. They shouldn't give you a one. There will be some. And he's worth more than a three. I mean, if you... It's a two. We are all anti-DJ more, right?

Yes. So we're all very anti-DJ more because we know it's not going to work. But if you left me, like if you put them on my team and you left me alone for about 15, 20 minutes, I could still try to find a path in my head. Oh, for sure. And so there are people in that league that I think you get that trade done. Do you assume that in your Dynasty League, the team that has Josh Allen is a competitive team? They're probably not. Generally speaking, they're a competitive team.

Go to that team and be like, hey, if they're a championship type of team, you want your stack, trade me your first for DJ Moore. Maybe he's dumb and he'll do it. Yeah, I think Moore will work really well in Dynasty League as a throw-in to a bigger trade too. Not a throw-in, but a player to include. Let's take another break and we'll be back with some more questions. Instagram question from Cravenomics. Are you more optimistic about Luther Burden or Marvin Harrison, Jr. this year? I mean, our rankings say what we are.

It's like more optimistic about Luther Burton. Luther burden by a lot for all three of us. I mean, optimism and Marvin Harrison are not. This is the ultimate Jason question as the most outspoken Luther burden hater on the show. and loving Marv still, Jason, how do you respond? I am really close on this. I am very, very close.

I don't, I mean, I could see Marv. Even without him in the puka roll? Yeah, Luther has looked better on the field. Marv hasn't yet done something that just looks like a dominant player. He still has every opportunity. to do it. I think if you told me who's going to get more targets this year, I still think it's going to be Marvin Harrison. I have Luther Burden three spots ahead of Marv. Yeah, you're the tightest in terms of that ranking. Yeah, you guys have a gap. I don't have

a big gap. I think that when you're looking at those type of players, you just take the type you want, the arc type you want. You want the true guaranteed number one of an offense and you think Marve could still be that, where Loveland, O'Donzee could eat. easily be the key cogs in the Chicago offense. And you don't see Michael Wilson as a threat the way that those guys are. Luther could lead the team in targets and, you know, really have a breakout. But I have him third. You know, it's-

In targets with those three. Yeah. Behind Rome and Mr. Lovel. Yeah, I mean, there's, there is certainly an active positivity towards Luther burden and an active negativity towards Marvin Harrison. Yes. because of the end of the season for Burden, the departure of DJ Moore, compared to the disappointment that Marvin Harrison has been, the injury really messed up last year.

It was just the end of the season for both these guys. Because at the end of the season, Marv was injured and Michael Wilson looked awesome, while Luther Burden looked really great going into the playoffs and explosives. So what we have recent, you know, recency bias certainly is on the Luther Burden side. Yeah, I mean, I definitely, even though I have burden ranked higher, you know, Mike, what percentage chance do you have that Harrison finishes ahead of burden in fantasy? Because my percentage is in the... He said that Luther finishes higher.

Okay. The percentage chance that Luther Burden finishes higher than Marv... No, I actually meant the other way around. Since we both have Marv... Either way, we'll give both answers. Well, I'm just saying, since we both have... Which number do you want me to give you? We have Marv ranked much lower, so it stands the reason that the percentage should be...

What's the chance the lower guy finishes higher? The chance that Marv outscores Luther Burden... I'll put it at... I got my percentage written down since me and you both have a 10-player gap. I will put it at 39%. Yeah, I was going to say like 33%. Jason was probably... He'd probably say...

Which is not impossible. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm 50-50 on those two guys. 55! There it is. By the way, another fade-out or what do we say, fizzle player that Brooks brought up. He's just 28. but it's already happening. T.J. Hawkinson.

Oh, my guy. We've already fired the flaming arrows at his casket. Whose? Hawkinson. Who? Oh, T.J. Hawkinson. He was a tight end.

Oh, he was. Yeah. And then he isn't. Instagram question from De Hile. Oh, man. Hawkinson. Goodness gracious. That was a... That was fast. Yeah, that was... That sucks.

That was really fast. Real burn bright. You got the trade. 10-team PPR Keeper League. My keepers are Drake, London, and Gentie. Should I now avoid Brock Bowers? No. Oh my gosh, no. No. In other words, in general, as a running back and tight-in on the same team risky, I don't ever think about it. I really don't. Because I don't think about them any tight-ins.

And the tight-ins I do think about, I don't think about whether I have another one of their players. I really don't. Right. There's no situation where I had Trey McBride, you're not avoiding Jeremiah Love. No. No. If I have Loveland, I'm not avoiding Swift or anything like that. I mean, Bowers, Genty, sure.

Put them together. Kittal, CMC, fine with it. Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor. Do it. Cool. I'd like that. Yeah. That means I have a tight end.

That's what that means. Instagram question from Jordan writing in. Keeper question brings up Bowers again. Brock Bowers or Saquan Barkley and a full people. P. I mean, technically Seekwon goes higher in drafts, but it's close enough between the two in their draft selection and ADP that it's certainly, it's not a guarantee you can draft Bowers. You know what I mean?

Like you don't have the, you don't have the option to like go around higher on him or something because he's a later round pick. I would take Bauer's. So the question actually looks like a keeper question where it's a 302 for Bowers or a two or the 208 for Sequan. So they're giving up their second to keep Sequin or their third to keep Bowler. This is the 80 piece.

Kyle has... Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's just keep one or the other. That's just where they're going. It's 208 and 302. I would keep Bowers. I would keep Bowers. I would keep Bowers. I am somewhat in on a Sequan bounceback, though. I will say that.

Not to number one or number two or something like that, but I I do think 208 for Sequin is a deal for that team and what the identity is going to be in the offensive line and the defense and like there's not another option there that's going to, I mean, unless you're into Tank Bigsby, which I'm not.

I am. I think Chiquan's going to have a player, but I don't think he gets a role. No, I kind of misspoke. I don't think that Tank Biggsby will eat into Sequan's role at all. I heard Gino Smith, Tank Biggsby are you talking to you guys this year.

I will have Tank Bigsby on tons of my teams. He'll be a late round target for me because he is the type where, the type of insurance back where should an older running back on the team go down, you're in a great offense and you've really looked good. The last couple of years, Tank has looked great. All right. This question comes in from Instagram. Hey, boys, what hot takes so far this offseason do you find yourself agreeing with?

but I don't see any options for the hot takes here I mean I can give you a hot take Is it the burden? That I Is mine so I also agree with it Is that? Yeah sure I don't I don't know what the the scorches are right now

But give us your Let's just do our own hot take Well hot take do we agree with ourselves on Yeah Ken Walker can be a top three Running Back this year Oh Who's got oh man

That was that was very hot. Is that too spicy? three? Yes. Wow. I mean, I'm all for it. I've got him on my team. He can. Mike and I are, we're historically big Ken Walker fans. He and I were exactly the same on that. And if you

check the tape, you'll obviously, you'll hear Mike saying it a lot, but I'm in the background, like, now you can, if you listen real close, he's nodding. He was typing to Mike. Keep going. Keep going. Yeah. These are great takes on Ken Bone Walker. I mean, my type of the off season is that Malie.

Willis, it's going to matter a lot. I mean, I've been saying that since before he was signed. So I think that that's one that I believe in. Do I like being associated with it? Not really. For, for, you're, where you go astray is, is the, like, you, you have a very strong conviction, as the dolphins do financially, of Malik Willis being good for the NFL, for the actual Miami Dolphins, not just fantasy.

Just good enough to start regularly and run the ball around. And he could. I mean, the couple starts, he looked better than some of the quarterbacks who have contracts. I think, I think Trevion takes a bigger, like a very large lead by the end of the year over Romandre. Okay. I like to hear that. Speaking of Trayvion, Gabe writes in on Instagram Dynasty trade. Chris Olavé for Trevion, would you do it?

In a Dynasty League? Yeah, I would do it. You would rather have Trayvon? I have Chris Olave in our main dynasty league and I adore Chris Olava I think he is an awesome wide receiver he's a top 10 guy he's young there's nothing not to like about him other than that's a lot of nice stuff you said before you say

I mean I have lived the last year and a half terrified that this guy could be deleted from my roster any minute with the concussion history I know he got through this last year great now he's got the blood clot I just feel like he is awesome on the field I'm very skeptical and worried about it. So if I could get out for something that I love. So would you trade Garrett Wilson for Travion?

Taking the injury thing away. Those guys are back to back in Dynasty startups. So Olavé goes ahead of Garrett Wilson and a dynasty startup in PPR. So would you trade Garrett Wilson for Trayvon? Because see, this question to me is just, do you need a running back? Do you need a wide receiver? Sure. It's not enough of a...

Like, Pat McMill and I would not trade for Trayon. You know, like you're in a tier of wide receiver that's too high. but would you trade Garrett Wilson I think that that is more difficult Carnell Tate No I would rather have Tate

Ladd McConkey I would trade Ladd for Trevo Jordan Tyson I want Jordan Tyson I mean if anything goes wrong with Chris Olave Jordan Tyson's to the moon Mike Instagram question from What would you guys do? Would you guys

trade Chris Oliva? You thought you were getting away No, I don't think I would trade. Of course, I'm just being quiet over here. I mean, I did answer. I said it'd be position specific for me. Like if I need a running back, I'm totally, it's an acceptable trade. Who is you okay? But if I'm drafting one, I'm drafting Olave. Okay.

Mike. Yeah, if I'm drafting, I take Olave. He's just 26 still. I mean, dude, I am hopeful that you guys are right. I need, I need him and I love him. Stay healthy. Evan says keep trade cut. Cam Scataboo.

Quinchon Judkins Bayshall Tootin You can't get me to cut Cam Scataboo If you put CMC Bejohn and Cam I'm keeping Cam That was almost my hot take is Cam Scadaboo is number one

Yeah he's gonna take the league by storm But he is my keep I'll probably cut Between Scataboo and Tootin is very tough Between Scataboo and Tootin Yeah I'll keep I'll keep Cam Scataboo I'll trade Quinch on and I'll

I'll cut facial. I think I'm keeping Scataboo. Yeah. I'll cut Quinshan. I really like them, but the team makeup scares me. Matt wants to know from Instagram, how can I convince my dynasty league

to finally get rid of kickers? Well, I mean, we always go back to, and we'll have answers, but we'll go back to the well of ask them how much they enjoy slash spend time building their,

you know, kicker. Picker list and analysis on a regular basis or whether they just, you know, pick one. That's there by ADP at the very end of the draft because why not? And then go and show them how many kickers like outscored important tight ends last year because it's going to be a lot of them and be like this shouldn't happen. And then bring it up to a vote every single year. Let me ask you this.

You're in a Dynasty League. You have Brandon Aubrey. I would never vote against removing kickers. He's there to stay. Kickers are important. Cickers are important in fantasy. Kickers are in the real NFL, Mike. If I've got Brandon Audrey, I'm in.

Who? Brandon Audrey Hepron? The funny thing about kickers is like, I used to try to make arguments to keep them around, but the arguments all defeat themselves. Because if you keep them around and you score them too severely, then the randomness of the kicker position ruins your league. and if you take the alternate approach

because you just want to have them there and you're like barely count their points, then they're really meaningless, which you should remove them. So I don't see a scenario where like, you could be like, oh, a field goal made is one. Also, one of the things that's helpful in a lot of leagues

is the addition of adding another flex spot. So you can make it, hey, instead of a kicker, I think we should have one more flex spot. It'll, you know, give, it's depending on how many you have, We did that when we got rid of our kicker in our league and just gives a little bit more to play with. Don't worry.

If you have kickers in your league, we put out kicker rankings. We do that for you. But it's not fun. No. Unless you have Brandon Audrey Hepburn. Website question from Chase, where are you guys at with Gunner Helm? I think he has great sleeper potential. So is Andy.

Yeah, I agree. I mean, I liked Gunner Helm last year. He made some plays. down the stretch. They got rid of Chigacanquo. I like them as a sleeper team. This is the Titans tight end. Yeah, he actually had... He was a rookie last year, yeah. He had a few top 10 weeks last year.

The snap count will be high this year. He'll be their guy. He'll be on the field and he'll make plays. I don't think that he can be... We talked at the beginning. You know, the additions of Wondale Robinson and Carnell Tate, yes, you lost Chig, but the targets are going to go to those two guys. He also, Oconquo, aside from a couple of spike weeks here, he never came through for the Titans.

When you're looking at this level of a tight end, I have to be able to see a path that they just end up as the number two target. You can't go Schultz? He can't Schultz it up. Shultz was the number two target, wasn't he? I mean, Schultz, I don't know if he was considered that or not. But it was like Christian Kirk probably. Like last year, liking Joanne Johnson from the Saints.

Because it's like, they have a lobby and who else do they have? But the fact that you have two, you have a top five pick and a free agent-wide receiver that you gave a bunch of money to. Like they're locked in. Their target share is very safe. Is this why you probably wouldn't be in on Britain Strange this year? But Brenton Strange is a little bit different as the offense projects to be high-powered. So I don't think he'll be anything consistent, but his spike weeks, I think there'll be more just because of the amount of touchdowns to go around. And yes, Dalton Schultz was the number two in the targets.

But the Dalton Schultz stuff is all so confusing of, you know, like it's real noisy last year of the success that. Jaden Higgins? No, no. Jaylon. Davis Mills had with the team. All righty That guy from someplace writes in on Instagram Last question for us

Favorite turn position to draft from The first pick or the 12th pick I like the one Yeah I'm gonna take the best player I'll take the one If I have to go on a turn I'd rather have Bejan or Jemir Yeah

I like the guys at the two three turn At being in the one spot Yeah if you're at the one spot And yeah I like that I think that's gonna do it for today's episode everybody, thank you for sending in your questions. Hopefully some of those answers were helpful. And one last reminder here, if you want to pick up tickets,

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