Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Take Checks + TNF Preview, Trade Decisions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/10

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 10, 2025. Week 2 fantasy football preview! Andy, Mike, and Jason discuss player takes they feel right and wrong about. Plus, waiver talk, tough fantasy football trade decisions, and a preview of Thursday Night Football between the Commanders and Packers. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(04:55) Take Checks(14:15) Backup Options (14:50) QB Backup Options(16:35) RB Backup Options(17:35) WR Backup Options(19:05) TE Backup Options(21:35) DST Backup Options(22:30) NFL News(25:50) Thursday Night Breakdown: Commanders at Packers(36:25) Mailbag(36:45) FAAB Tips(41:10) Tyreek Hill / Keenan Allen / Marquise Brown(44:50) Tee Higgins for AJ Brown trade(46:15) Justin Jefferson / Christian McCaffrey / Derrick Henry(46:25) Marvin Harrison Jr or Emeka Egbuka(47:40) Is Luther Burden droppable?(48:25) Malik Nabers for Jaxon Smith-Njigba(51:00) Streaming your opposing receiver’s quarterbackConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. I don't know what we're doing. I saw him do it, so I did it. Wednesday, September 10th show, 1800. Oh, is it really? Oh, turn of the century. Thanks, Benjamin Franklin.

What was, what? We're in the 1800s now. I just stared at Jason during the welcome in because he said he got thrown off yesterday. Oh. So I was trying to throw him off again. No, you didn't. I was too busy staring at the screen that is waiting to run waivers. I went to change a bid and it said, oh no.

It said the player you are bidding on is no longer available, meaning it's run. Okay. But it is not yet displaying to us. That is the moment we are living in. Turn of the century. Welcome in. So which league are you checking on? League of record.

Okay. Yeah. Did you go to work? You know, so here's before it runs, I already know how it's going to happen. I decided this year I'm going a little bit harder than I usually do. I really want to add a couple of important pieces, went hard after Q's and went hard after Kashon Booty.

And I promise you I got neither. There's no way that what I thought I, so I just went to up my biz. To me, I was $19. For each? Yeah. Oh, that's pretty hard. Well, okay, good.

I'm happy to hear that because when I put... Well, no, you might not get huge, but I think you'll definitely get booty. You won't get huge. I will? You will not. Oh, okay. All right. The Florida is...

The cards are... I did slowly... I did 100 of my fab. Oh, but I did more than 18, so if you bid 18, you won't get them. Well, I bid more than 18 as well. I did not bid on either of those guys. Well, no, I did zero dollars bids, but... yeah my and now that we're just putting the cards on the table all the most i spent was on

harold fanning oh i really wanted harold fanning well you might have got him if you went hard how much did you bid on harold fanon i i think it was like 12 i went 13 oh son of my god i'm always just under uh Andy you you glossed over a great point i don't think we highlighted it yesterday zero dollar bids yeah people zero dollar if you could be looking at the waiver wire saying there's no chance I I'm just not in the position to get this player zero dollar bids they go through more than you would think and because everyone gets that mentality of like I don't want to overbid so I'm not going to do anything put a zero dollar in yes sometimes yes sometimes things happen it is unbelievable how many times that someone gets a player that no one else bid on that you're like I thought everyone was going hard yes I mean you just always if there's a player worth rostering and you don't want to spend on them, put a zero dollar bid in. It's great advice. You're not going to get him in a chopped league, though, if you put a zero dollar bid on. That's what I just found out. Yeah, we are playing our first chopped league ever, and boy, oh boy, did people

spend money in week one. Malik Neighbors was on the chopped team, so he fell to waivers, and 551 of the thousand dollars spent. Yeah, it seems like got nobody in that one. So, but welcome in. We've got, we've got a fun show. The waivers are running, everyone. Yeah, we, it's Sometimes it's fun when they start up here to react. But we have a great show for you today. We are going to dig into some backup options. One of our favorite things to do is drop it like it's hot. And talk about, especially after week one,

people are eager to go and spend on waivers and drop players that maybe have a real future and just had a bad week one. So we'll talk about them. We got news to get into. We got the Thursday night preview. We got mailbag. And we're even going to take a quick look here at our initial early takes on the season. A reminder, if you want access to the customized waiver wire tool,

as we talk about waivers, and the ultimate dashboard lineup optimizer and all of our premium tools and resources, it's as simple as going to join thefoot.com, becoming an official supporter of the show, a member of the foot clan. And then you will have access to all of those tools year round on the web and in the exclusive footclan app. And you can do that at join Thefoot.com. So, quick question as you two continue to stare down your waivers. Let's, uh, I'm sorry, were you talking? Let's take, let's take a look here. One take that you feel you have gotten right after, you know, week one confirmed your opinion. And one take you feel very shaky about after week one. Can they both be George Kittle? No, I mean, I mean, I get it.

Kittles right. Kittle was, it was, it was, I felt great about it. on four targets in like three seconds. I are. I'll hop in. I would say that the player that I'm really happy with because I felt kind of on an island here was Michael Pittman. I think Michael Pittman, I went back, I talked about it more on the Dynasty episode that released today, but if you look at last year in the games that Michael Pittman played without Anthony Richardson, every single game other than the one he got injured in, he was double-digit fantasy points. He was basically a wide receiver two every single week

when he wasn't playing with Anthony Richardson. And then you go, okay, so most of last year he was with Anthony Richardson. It was just a disaster. But what about the year prior? With the year prior, he was the wide receiver 15. The year prior, he was the wide receiver 23. The year prior, he was the wide receiver 15. And then even last year, whenever he wasn't playing with Anthony Richardson,

he was a wide receiver two. So now you've got Daniel Jones there. He is the, you know, he's the clear to me, and so far after one week, the primary target in the wide receiver core. I believe he was mispriced and is a good wide receiver. He's also paid to be their alpha. I love Michael Pittman. I think Downs will be more and more as the season goes along. I mean, he had the hamstring.

Was that what it was? I can't remember. He had an injury that held him out for a good chunk there of training camp. and then he was only in the slot. But I'm, that doesn't mean I'm out on it. I will 100% grant you that while I do think that Pittman is more valuable for fantasy than Josh Downs, even if Josh Downs is a better, like actual wide receiver, which he might be, the week one happenstance where you destroyed Miami, that does not put you in three

wide receiver sets throwing the ball a ton. That's where Josh Downs will thrive because he, played only in the slot. So if you don't have three wide receivers on the field, he's not going to be out there. So this is not an overreaction that Josh Downs is dead by any means from week one when you are up 30 to nothing

in the blink of an eye on the dolphins. The take I am feeling shaky about I'm holding on to them holding on to that little plant stay strong little roots is of course Caleb Johnson. Caleb Johnson, you know, my fantasy MVP,

that guy that I really believe and I really believe in the talent. I said it will start slow. He will not be on the field, you know, ahead of Jalen Warren. And my biggest fear was Arthur and Kenneth Gainwell and week one. It was, Kenneth Gainwell out snapped Jalen Warren.

What are you doing? But I'm feeling very shaky because I don't like liking players that don't play football. The hardest part is going to be the question we're going to ask probably for three or four weeks in a row, which is do you drop Caleb Johnson? Yes.

because if he gets the exact same amount of work this next week, I think you're going to be in this place where... Most everyone's going to feel they have to drop him. And I will feel like contractually obligated to go pick him up. So if you plainly drop him, he will be roster. By the way, you did get Kishon Booty. You did not get Quentin Johnston. Okay.

That was the order that I put them in on my. He went for 35. Great. And you did get booty. Way too much. My take that I feel like I got right or it's heading that direction is JSN being a true alpha in Seattle? Well, it was just like, what, a 50% target share?

It was the highest on the week, right? It's the highest of all time. Yeah, so J.S.N playing outside Cooper Cup barely involved. J.S.N. actually ran more routes. Wild. Yeah, J.S.N looks real good after one week. I actually went back and watched a bunch of film of JASN, and it was better than the stats, which were great. Okay. Yeah, that's great to hear. And then one take I feel very shaky about or... $31.

for John Johnson. Huh? What league are you talking about? The listener league. Oh, okay. I mean, that's... Let the man talk. Sorry. We'll react to the waivers. It's like seeing a spider, man. I'm not going to just not react. It's a 14-team league. I'm going to release a spider if you don't be quiet for a second. Watch it. No, the take I feel very quickly on the opposite side of now is my doubts around Justin Fields and Garrett Wilson, at least through one week, which,

again, Mike, you brought it up and you are the Justin Fields, truth are. Correct. Justin Fields couldn't look like garbage next week. He certainly could. But right now, this was not, this was just such an impressive performance through four quarters with his passing, with his evasiveness, the rushing game, and then Garrett Wilson being that primary target constantly, who should have had two touchdowns. Yeah. You know, I doubted both of those guys feeling shaky about that take through one week.

We'll see what the future holds. but, I mean, I had a league where I traded for Justin Fields on the cheat because I think, you know, Mike, I asked you the question, and this maybe will help the listeners out there. Justin Herbert or Justin Fields, which Justin would you rather have rest of season? And Mike's response was essentially, Herbert's probably got the higher floor, but Justin Fields could be, if you get the right season, a league winner. Because if you can run.

He can finish top three. Yeah, I mean, we've seen him do that. Now, it's going to be hard for the gym. but it was a week one matchup against Pittsburgh's defense, and he put up big numbers. So that would be the one that I feel like maybe I got wrong. I think Herbert couldn't finish top

three as well. I do not think. I think he's literally finished as quarterback two before. I think it's possible. I guess I'd frame it as it's more likely to me that Fields finishes as top three than Herbert. There was a tweet from Jacob Gibbs

who highlighted that Justin Field, Fields, had the second lowest first read target rate per fantasy data as in as in fields was going through his progressions he wasn't just pulling the fields nice swish i'll take it but yeah like you know two uh i don't know if you guys saw the stuff about uh yeah i was it howard was talking about too somebody was like we know that if we shut down to his first read he just melts and the fact that that fields was lower yes kyle that it was Xavier and Howard.

The fact that Fields was actually reading and going through a progression, that is fantastic news. The take I feel pretty good about is Jordan Mason of the Minnesota Vikings and of just that. I knew that Aaron Jones is going to be involved in the passing game more than Jordan Mason.

Aaron Jones was at a 15% target share. Jordan Mason was at 5% though. However, Mason was at 58% of the, the running back carries and just one week, but eyeball test was they tried to run a little bit with Aaron Jones at the beginning of the game. It did not work. They put Jordan Mason in and immediately chunk plays are starting to happen. So I think that that transition happens even more rapidly now of seeing what Jordan Mason can do on the ground. And then if this Vikings offense gets cooking like we think, and he's the goal line running back, I think that for

where he was drafted. He's going to be a home run pick. Now, the complete opposite of that, I mean, it's what Jason. Mine's obvious. It's Ken Bone Walker of what for the Seattle Seahawks. It was a complete time share. It felt it didn't feel like a time share when you were watching. It felt like it's charbs on the field all the time and he just keeps having success. It really did. And then every time Walker got a touch, it was same old, same old. He just got crushed in the back field. you, which is, I believe Sharbs had the following. You go, oh, sure, you blocked for sharps. As

the Walker Apologist, it very much felt like the team was letting him down. But Walker, I think, was 10 for 20. He had three receptions. It's just it feels, for his ADP, it feels incredibly shaky at this point. I do think

better days are ahead for Walker, but he what was these? He may not match the ADP. What was the stat that I shared with you the other day. I think in the last seven Ken Walker games. Oh, that he's under four a carry. He's under four a carry. Was two a carry in that game?

He has not been able to rip off a Ken Walker big run. I do think there has been, I mean, because we've seen enough of him, I think there's a correlation between his tackle breaking and putting himself in positions to break tackles. I do think that there's maybe a win I get the ball. I'm not making the right first read situation going on after that much time

with Ken Walker. But we'll Move on. Talk some backup options. Backup options, presented by progressive insurance. All right. Drop it like it's hot, folks. We had waiver wire go through today. We want to see which players. We want you to pay attention to which players were dropped to go pick up the new hotness.

so if you didn't get the waiver wire ads if you didn't spin up here are some backup options used to pay attention to in week one quarterbacks what do you think Trevor Lawrence is a guy that you know he wasn't picked up much and he was super disappointing in week one

he was super disappointing so he would very likely be dropped but I think the matchup against Cincinnati we saw Joe Flacco Joe Flacco had a great game unfortunately he has two interceptions that also killed potential more yards and touchdowns on his drives that were not his fault when he threw it to the hands of his receivers and they popped it up. But the Bengals defense did not look especially difficult as expected. And I think that Trevor Lawrence going into week

two against Cincinnati is probably a pretty good play this week. He's a good streaming option. So that would be someone beyond who was picked up this week at quarterback. Yeah. And I'd mention Caleb, who Caleb Williams, Chicago Bears, he still seems to be available in about 35 percent. Well, and this is, again, these are numbers before the waiver said run. Before the waiver hit. So we don't even need to, I mean, if Caleb is dropped, yeah, yeah. Pay attention. He was the quarterback six in two games against Detroit last year. It's, and it comes down to the running. And what's QB9 in week one? He was six for 58 with a touchdown on the ground. The through the air didn't look fantastic, but on the ground, I mean, he looked so incredibly fast. And he looked

like he had was dunked in Greece or Vaseline and the Minnesota Vikings could not get him. They were getting there, but they could not get him. I was really surprised with the athleticism. Yeah, no, I was too. I know we know he was athletic, but week one looked the speed different. Yeah. He did, yeah, he was able to pull away. You're saying from some of the Russians and things. If running backs

were picked up in your league if Tutton or Samson or somebody and you didn't pick them up. Pay attention, take a look and see if Trey Benson got dropped after one week. Sometimes people pick up backups in the draft and then move on to somebody that they feel like they can start. Pay attention to DJ Giddens

who Jason mentioned yesterday barely rostered, backing up Jonathan Taylor, who has a vast injury history and hurt his neck in week one. I also saw in a lot of leagues, Kendra Miller was dropped I would say most

like he him Will Shipley those guys were dropped Will Shipley makes sense because they brought someone in but while Kendra didn't very little did almost nothing only played 15% of the snaps and so that's why everyone's dropping him he was the running back too it wasn't like

someone else played ahead of him who's just Alvin Camara played 79% of the snap so as an insurance option behind an older Camara who's missed games every year for the last several it seems like someone that should be rostered. All right, wide receivers, if you missed out on picking up Quge, as Jason did, or Kashon Booty, or Tillman, or Hollywood Brown players we mentioned on yesterday's show,

maybe take a look and see if, uh, I like these three, Juju Smith-Schuster is out there, barely rostered, uh, going to play a ton of snaps of worthy, misses more time, no Rashi Rice, uh, was 5'4. Fesify! Nice. Has, uh, and then Wondale. Juju feels like he's 34. He's 28 years old. Oh, no, he's not.

He is? Oh, that's a Cameron Artist's pain situation. Bad birth certificate? He, uh, I'm calling out Juju is, I think, important for people. Uh, wow, we have heard on this podcast that Tyquan Thornton is guaranteed to score. Mm-hmm. A 43 yard touchdown, 42? 42.

42-yard touchdown, guarantee, yeah. Now, he has to do that on his three targets is the biggest issue. We'll have five this week. Oh, okay. Uh, but Juju is going to get. targets. I mean, he, he, he, I don't know that he was a huge part of the game plan going into last week, but now that they have the hand that they are dealt, he will be involved. And he just juju just keeps popping up for the chiefs. When they need him, he gives you a usable week for

fantasy. People might have dropped, you know, some of those top drop candidates too, like Jaden Higgins or Cooper Cup that you could add to the roster. Trey Tucker as well, had a big touchdown. And, uh, we think Brock Bowers is okay, but tight end wise. If you didn't grab Joanne Johnson or Harold Fennon or Britain Strange, pay attention to Johnny Smith. He will be definitely used all the time by Arthur Smith. And I don't know if it's a last name thing. I don't know what it is, but he likes Johnny. And Hunter Henry, of course, he might be out there.

People are bored with Hunter Henry. And Dalton Kincaid. I was going to say Dalton Kincaid and Dallas Gotter, bigger names that were not necessarily drafted in a lot of leagues that both looked good week one. those are uh i think i'd go i'd go goddard over dalton kincade played like half the game and i mean he came through with the big time touchdown but he was only out there for 51% of the snaps and got so just imagine mike what if he's out for 80% of it's room to grow i i agree with that he won't be as the the buffalo bills have shown us with dalton kinkade and yeah that could it could have been interpreted it as an

actually bad game for kinkade when you consider that his quarterback for 250 yards in the fourth quarter. That's how I take it. It might be a cell high. It's like, oh, 100%. Like Travis Kelsey, who got the touchdown and is also a cell high because I had a 10% of targets. He was like not involved in that game when they needed him.

Now, this might be, this, it could be super galaxy brained. Real, real galaxy brain. But did you see the quote of, it's probably from that other stupid podcast, but Kelsey was talking about running into Worthy. Do you do a podcast? Yeah, it's garbage. Don't listen to it. Oh, my gosh.

I didn't mean to set that up. Well, they get ratings because they have superstar pop stars on. Oh, my gosh. Jealous much. But anyways, he was talking about, like, I mean, there's a human, again, could be Galaxy Brain. There's a human element. He took his teammate out. Do you, like, do you think that that affected him at all mentally?

Or was he able to just completely block that out? Yeah, he got, he talked it out. He talked about that on the bottom. on the podcast and how bad he was and how he's got to be a lot better than that and that was his mistake and these are human beings. Also, he's part of game playing sometimes and other times he's not.

I mean, they were playing obviously a defense that was pretty good. Well, we'll see. I'm not going to, I'm not bailing on Kelsey completely, but it was the lowest target sure he's had since 2017. So, whoof. Keep that in mind. Also on the defensive side, if you're looking for multi-week pickups that

are still out there, the Patriots have a really decent schedule. Miami, Pittsburgh, Carolina. The Seahawks play Pittsburgh in New Orleans. So New Orleans is coming up for them. Man, those are a couple of debates. I saw the Philly. There's a chance Seattle just has a good defense.

I agree. I believe I said top five to ten, and that was ridiculous. The range was too much. It was too much. But I might be on your side there. Five to 50. I've seen the Eagles drop the long. Yeah.

Thank you, Mike. Yeah. The Eagles have. been dropped in a lot of leagues that I make because they're playing the Chiefs this week. And so you go, oh, I don't want to play them. That's fine. But they're obviously a great defense. I play them against the Chiefs. Sure, but I would pick them up. Well, it's in Arrowhead.

Maybe not. All right, that was backup option sponsored by Progressive Insurance Quote today at Progressive.com. We'll go ahead and take a break and talk some news. All right, let's jump in. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance.

The Packers signed, currently injured wide receiver, Christian Watson to a one-year-and-thirteen-million-dollar contract extension. Who is Christian Watson's agent? Okay. Are you looking to find us a new agent? Pekari, you're doing some good work out there. So this puts him under contract, I believe, for... He was already under contract for next year, I think.

Is that right? So he was, this is year four. No, he would not be. Okay. So they're giving him another year. It does prove some things we said about him in the beginning of the year, which is maybe he's one of those IR stashes to pay attention to because they have plans for him. Yeah, nice job.

Not sure when he's going to be back. Jake London and Darnell Mooney expected to practice today. Rahe Morris says he expects London to play this week. It's a Sunday night football game, which makes it, you know, you'd like to see him out. there and get that confirmed towards the end of the week it also means and this is the time of year where we try to remind you because we're not in the flow of it when you've got these questionable players on Sunday night Monday night make sure that they are in your flex position so you have more opportunities to pivot out of them if it's a last all turns out he's not playing

give yourself some flexibility the 49ers have a weekly part of the show it seems when we talk injuries. Juan Jennings is day-to-day, looking pretty good for him not to be majorly injured. Jake Moody has been cut to the joy of many, many, many, many 49ers fans. And do you want to, do you want to hit some sad music here, Al?

Oh, man. George Kittle officially placed on injured reserve. That sucks. George Jason, any thoughts? He's going to miss the next four games and while he's missing that time he's going to go to those Caesars probably on an elk

or some kind of reindeer. Sure. He's going to upgrade to a reindeer at this point. He's going to have a great time, probably drink some brew skis. This isn't what other NFL players should be doing, but this is what George Kittle can do. And then he's going to come back out in week six and dominate. Yeah, I like that part. I hope you're right. George, you owe me

some fab. One of the one of the things that kind of sucks is that the opening season window was going to be the best for George. Yes. Because you're going to get back to Marcus Robinson, Brandon I, you, other players later on. Not that he won't be amazing, he will. But Will Shipley,

dealing with fractured ribs. Yeah. Totally had nothing to do with the injured Will Shipley why we traded for Tank Bigsby. So we, yeah, Will Shipley, you can cut him. I did in a couple of leagues to move on. And it'll be Tank Bigsby and A.J. Dillon back behind Sequin Barkley. That was News and Notes, sponsored by Progressive Insurance.

Quote today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance, Company, affiliates, and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or situations, coverage, subject, policy, terms, limits, and conditions. Let's talk Thursday night football. Thursday night. Well, we had football Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Monday last week, our Thursday night matchup this week, Washington, 1-0, 1-0, taking on the 1-0 Green Bay Packers. This game is.

So this game's also in Lambo. They get to start the season, two at home? That's what I was surprised. Two at home, but not just two at home, but then the second week on Thursday night primetime at home, making another team fly across the country in short order. they're going to do it. They just got to stay home. They play it home and they get to chill.

Look, they're three and a half point favorites and the overrunner in the game's 48 and a half. So at least Las Vegas sees us enjoying Thursday night football. I hope we do. You know, Green Bay's defense in week one stifling. And so Jaden Daniels will have his hands full. Washington runs so much no huddle. You saw Debo Samuel have a lot of success.

in his debut, Green Bay, much slower. They were 31st in pass rate over-expectation last year. That is the challenge for Jordan Love is will they need to throw the ball that much? This is a good game for them to probably need to throw the ball a little bit. Yeah, and, I mean, are you playing Jordan Love? I'm fine. I mean, they have a 26-point implied point total. I'd be comfortable playing Jordan Love.

I don't know if he's going to be a top five on the week type of guy, but you're not trying to stream out of Jordan Love? I would be fine streaming out of Jordan. I mean, I play Justin Fields over Jordan Love. Yeah, okay. I feel pretty decent about Love this week, though. I think Jordan Love has an excellent game and a mediocre fantasy output. That's the question of what points do we feel comfortable putting love out there for. Drake May or Jordan Love this week

I would go Drake May for sure Drake May is playing Miami right Yes Yeah I I feel like love will be all right It's tough I think he's got two touchdowns in him It's tough

And I actually do too I think he throws two touchdowns And probably has a disappointing fantasy Day Yeah he threw like two yes or this past week What was he like quarterback 18 or something Yeah he was he was He didn't run like we were hoping

Right so that that's one of those You know I think there are a handful of players the closest one I brought him up earlier I'm not sure if I would Trevor Lawrence I think has a higher ceiling

but also you're playing with fire there because he's not nearly as good a quarterback You definitely don't have to start love Jaden Daniels you do and he had a bunch of design runs again last week he also Mike what did I tell you his rushing line was when I looked at it was it 58? I thought it was in like the mid-60s

It was really high and it was like my goodness the projected The projected line, the over under for the rushing yardage was like 58 yards or something like that. I'm not sure where it is now. Kyle could probably let us know. Maybe it's a little bit lower than that. But it just still seemed like such a nice floor. Maybe it's 48. This is the perfect type of game for Jay and Dave last week. Yeah. Yeah. So we had the Jacori Croski Merit breakout. Bill Crosky himself.

he calls it the Guinness Book of World Records. Okay. All right. You got me pretty good. He got me pretty good. Hey, did the pause? Oh, that was a long pause. Well done.

Primetime Bill Kroski. 10 for 82 and a touchdown last week. You got to be so excited, so scared. Oh, he's got to start Bill in this matchup. Well, the, yeah, the first week, Green Bay, that defense. You know, Austin Echler feels like we're in a really weird. place with him because he is very much the starter wasn't the one with juice last week. I mean, he's solid, but you know, you finished outside the top 36 for 26 on the ground,

only six attempts on the ground. Three catches. Are we going to have sub 10 attempts from him every week? I think you probably will have sub 10 attempts. Where you want him is in the receiving game. I think in a game like this, you know, they won last week against the Giants 21 to 6. This game, I expect them to lose, and I expect them to lose heartily. Really? I do. I think the hardily. How do you lose heartily?

I think it is. Did you mean it more? There's a bountiful loss. Yes, a bountiful loss. Very heartily, like the great with great heart. I was satiated by my loss. Exactly. The Packers look so good.

know it was one week, but it's not just how they looked at week one. It's the actual personnel, the traveling, how these teams match up. So if they win, if Green Bay wins heartily, as you said, who are the beneficiaries? You saw Jordan Reed or Jaden Reed get into the end zone last week. Matthew Golden had a very quiet opening week one. You had Romeo Dobbs involved. Tucker Kraft, the touchdown, but not a lot of targets. Only 18 completions by love. Crafton, that's the whole thing, is Kraft and Reed, they caught the touchdowns, so they were fine for fantasy, but it was, it was a very small amount of passing attempts that were divvied up across the whole team. So then what's the expectation with a hearty win? Yeah,

who's the players that you're most confident in? Obviously, Josh Jacobs is the primary beneficiary here. I'm not super confident in any of the pass catchers for, I mean, this is try to call your shot on a touchdown to me. Honestly, Tucker Kraft. Tucker Kraft to me is a weekly starter. Yeah, I think so. At that position, you don't need to do as much. You know, last week, you know, he had two catches and was fine because he got the touchdown. Um, the targets are going to be spread around in an infuriating manner. And so it's, it's really difficult for me to, you had two receptions for Dobbs, three receptions for Jaden Reed, two for Wicks, two for craft. Two for Golden. One for Jacobs. One for Musgrave. One for Brooks. One for Fitzpatrick. One for

Savianne Williams. Like, Savian got on there? Oh yeah. Right on. Yeah. He had, he was the the third highest total catches. I mean, with one. It's just really tough when you don't have a consolidation of targets to have, you really, if you want to play a Packer, you've got to say, I believe they're getting a touchdown, a receiver. You're playing Terry McLaren and Debo? Yeah. I can't imagine not playing Debo. McClureen, it could take a little time.

You talked about missing camp. It could be, but it's like, who are you putting in? If you had them both, which one would you play? Debo. I think the manufactured touches will be there. The running game is usually a little bit easier for the Packers defense. They've got a very good passing defense. and so Tara McLoran down the field.

I mean, if you're down a lot, they'll throw the ball more. So I don't think Terry McLaren is someone that by any means you can't start, but it's a matter of do you have, like, let's say you drafted Terry McLaren and you drafted Michael Pittman. I'd feel more confident playing Michael Pittman. Really? Against Denver. Ooh, I forgot about that.

I forgot about Patrick 13. I'll look further into that. How about the waiver hotness huge or? The Washington guys. I think I go huge on Monday night. Oh, man. This is spicy. In week two?

Ricky Pierce, Saul. I'd rather play over Tara McLaurin. What about Zay Flowers? Yeah, I mean, the problem with Terry is just, you know, he's got to make the most of the limited opportunities, probably. The deeper targets. He had four targets in week one. he caught two of them for 27 yards he's always a big play away i mean he was the wide receiver five

last year because of big plays and it's a high over under so in all fairness he was just overthrown on what would have been a bomb touchdown it feels like you probably need to stick with terry for me i would have i i do agree that we should not overreact on one down week from any wide receiver but terry mccloren did not look bad if that if if that throw from jaden Daniels was, you know, a yard less than Terry has a great week one. You play them over to Tyreek? Yeah. Okay.

Mike, do you have any other thoughts on this game? Yeah. The question is, I wanted to get some names for Bill because I am nervous about it. William. Will he be in this game? Because the Green Bay defense, one game, but like David Montgomery and Jemir Gibbs shut down. And for all the excitement about Bill Kroski,

he's not up at that level of play yet. So are you the aforementioned Jordan Mason takes on the Atlanta Falcons. Would you rather play Mason in that game or Bill? Test your fate with Bill on Thursday.

I think those are very close to me. And I think I lean Mason. Okay. Jalen Warren against Seattle. I lean Jalen Warren and let's find one more I guess let's just stay in the

same game Echler or Bill who are you playing I actually lean Echler this week if you're playing from behind the past catching role I think I might stay away from Bill after everything you said and where I'm at with it So Bill feels like a low fringe RB2 type of a play that's where you

For me at least. So Bill or Kenneth Walker. I'll play Bill. Probably Bill. Yeah, I'll play Bill there. I know you need to, we need to see it. Agreed. Agreed.

All right, let's jump into the mailbag. Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. All right, we are into the mailbag. If you have a question for the show, we'd love to answer it. Go to the website. fantasy footballers.com, click the submit a question button, or you can dial the voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. And do we have a voicemail in here, Al? Are we good on that? We do.

All right, let's do it. Hey, footballers, Dan from South Bend. I love your show. I got a quick question. This is the first time my league has ever done waivers with Fab. So what's the easiest way or how do you guys decide how much to spend percentage-wise on the position and what positions are more important or how do you guys figure the percentage? I'm just trying to see if I can get some kind of detail on that. Thanks. Have a great day. I'll say this and you guys can add some more more context to it. We add fab ranges to our waiver wire rankings. So we do give you a baseline of what we think they're worth spending.

However, the real true answer, and people don't like it when it's not when it's not like super, you know, black and white on a certain number. The real true answer is I adjust my bids proportional to my need. If I have a great need for a running back on a roster that's depleted,

it's going to be much different than if it's in a very, you know, in a vacuum, I have a full roster and I just try to add somebody to my bench. I'm going to overspend to fill a need on my roster. So I guess I would say use our fab as a guide, but not a, you know, also know your league. Yeah, that's what I'm going to say. This is, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a blind

auction. So this is, you have to beat the other people in your league and know their tendencies. Now, if this is your first. If I go to a blind auction with Jason there, I know I got to have to bid up a lot because he's going to buy everything. Well, is it fancy stuff? It's fancy stuff. Oh, then you bring your wallet. Yeah, you should just leave. Yeah. You're getting nothing. How much for all of it? I'll take the lot. You know, you do need to know. Now, he said this is his first time playing,

so you don't know the tendencies of your league. I will say this. If you are, if this is the first time for your entire league playing, if you just switch to an auction, go a little harder than you think. Yes. It's been our experience in new fab leagues that, yeah, everyone's worried that they're going to overspin,

and so they just go out a couple bucks here, a couple bucks there. Just don't, just be courageous. Yeah. Get your guys. To highlight Andy's point, I lost George Kittle. I had to get a tight end. And I, like I said on the show yesterday, there were two tight ends that I fully believe are year-long type of players in Juan Johnson and Harold Fanon.

Now, I had no idea what other, I looked around at the teams, you know, to just get a gauge, who needs a tight end? and there were a handful of teams that, in my estimation, where they're going to bid. They're going to go after these tight ends. So I put in a number where I knew this is going to be an overspend. I don't know how much of an overspend, but it will be. But I got to get this guy. So I went 27 on Juwan Johnson, which is, that's hardened to paint for him.

It was an overspend of 20. Yeah, it ended up being 20. Now, I had a mid-20 on Harold Fanon, should I have not gotten Ju-Juan. And I would not have gotten Fannie. No, he went for like 33. for in the 30s. So it was, I looked at my situation, knew I had to get one of those two guys and just accepted, I'm burning, here's, I'm going to burn some cash, but I believe in them and I need them. Here's what I think is the most important takeaway from that. Mike, you spent 27 to get one of

those two tight ends that you needed. The next highest bid was seven. Yeah. So you can say it was a bad bid. In the end, you have Joanne Johnson who you needed. And your team is better because of it. Yeah. It's also very funny because if the bid behind him had been 26, you would have felt like it was the right amount to spend. Exactly. It's the same amount of fowd no matter what. It's just a perspective thing, right? Like if I had spent 26 and you who spent 27,

you'd be dunking on me. Yes. Like I got him. So, yeah, if you need a player, go get him. We do give you a guide in the Waiverwire custom waiver wire rankings in our ultimate dashboard that you can use. But, you know. Speaking of dunking, I just want to say when I said that I spent 19 for

for Kuge and Al was like not gonna get him I'll spent 18 I screenshoted it in Slack there where my bid was 24 he had a technological malfunction he's the one that runs

our tech yeah it is okay um so maybe you're hearing this maybe you're not all right Nate and Canada half PPR league should I bench Tyree Kale for either of these two players yes keen and Allen or Hollywood Brown

probably both dude It's amazing how I'm still afraid of seeing Tyreek Hill on the other side of my matchup. I really am. Like I'm playing somebody this week. They have Tyreek Hill and I'm still see it and I'm like I'm afraid of the big play. And he hasn't had a 30-yard reception in a year.

But I'm still scared. Yeah, I mean I get it. Tua looked terrible against the Colts. Now that's one week. We don't want to overreact from one week, but it's not just one week. Like for Tyreek. It's one week plus age, plus one year. He was terrible last year.

You know, he's probably getting traded. I would say that the chance of him ending the season on the dolphins is very low, very low. Go back to the chiefs. Yeah, or someplace that wants to make a push with one dude. Maybe. I think he will be gone. And just a... I don't know what that means for your wattle shares or whatever.

is certainly not someone that you can't start. He's going to get a lot of targets. Those other two names I would start over. Yeah. Hollywood Brown. The Hollywood Brown one is going to feel bad. Because when you're just looking at the floor and the median of what could happen for that. But if I had the two of them, I think I would do it.

Hollywood Brown's story in Kansas City is injuries alone. That's all it is. When he's been on the field for them, he has been targeted at such a crazy rate. He came back at the end of last year. And in limited snaps, he was constantly targeted. He is a very good and capable receiver. And we're talking about, we brought up Juju Smith-Schuster on this show. Correct.

Juju-Smiths Schuster is not the receiver Hollywood Brown currently is. We did have an update here on Miami Dolphin News of head coach McDaniel talking about Darren Waller, guys. I don't know if you saw this quote. He said, quote, I expect, are you going to play it? I guess. Sure. quote grudgingly I expect to not know what to expect

until later on this week he said that yeah hold on hold on hold on we may get to a point where we realize the risk is too great for the rest of the season and we'll have to do what's best for the team oh man we're ramping up we have the ramp this is a ramp to infinity

this is like starting the rocket ship up and then powering it down and it never launches sure glad you traded for him out of retirement Wait, and paid him. Yeah, trade. Oh, he's a genius. Yeah, he's doing work over there. Oh, my God.

And we did have a... That team is in trouble. We did have a note that I'm seeing that, that Quinchon Judkins not practicing. Because everything yesterday was like, oh, he's going to practice tomorrow. I believe he is not practicing because he's meeting with the NFL. Is that what's going on? Let me look that up. On one, two, three, NFL Street?

Is he gone to visit with... Just saying, like, if he's not practicing on a Wednesday... Yeah, that is it. That's what he's doing. You can't be playing. We'll see. We'll see what happens this week. We'll take a break. We'll jump back into some more questions. Okay, so as of an hour ago right now, Judkins is in New York City today meeting with the NFL.

The plan is for Judkins to practice tomorrow and Friday to determine his availability for Sunday at that point. Gary, okay. I mean, that's good to know. Gary in York is trading T. Higgins to the borough manager for A.J. Brown a good trade. Yes. Yep. I'd rather have a. Yeah. Week one for Jason. Jason. Yeah. Your, you're, AJ Brown's on your league of record team. Your most important team. Where does your level of concern if, if you had T. Higgins, would you be trading it for AJ Brown? I would rather have A.J. Brown. If this was a redraft right now, everything we know in week one, I would take A.J. Brown ahead of T. Higgins. There are plenty of of wide receivers have bad games, and I don't expect this to be the last bad game for

AJ Brown this season by any means, but it will 100% be chockful of lots of big games. I was, I forget which DB it was. They were interviewing some great DB, and it was like, who are the best five current wide receivers in the NFL? And he was like, well, Chase and Jefferson, of course, I think C.D. A.J. Brown. And then he really struggled with five. It was like he puts them in there. And you look at last year, there were games where two for 36

for A.J. Brown. You know, he had some games where he just disappeared. And then plenty of awesome ones. Yeah, we may be accepting a new reality for A.J. Brown, though. Yeah. Unnecessary. In the last couple of years. Kirk wants to know, would you trade either CMC or Derek Henry

for Justin Jefferson in a PPS? our league or just keep the running backs. Oh, man. I would probably keep the running backs. I would keep the running backs. Andrew in Idaho. What's up, Fookland? What's it? Should I start Marvin Harrison Jr. this week or ride

the high from a mecca Buka. And play him instead. Thanks guys, love the show. Obviously got a Bucca late then and has the start-s-it decision. Marvin Harrison against Carolina. I am worried that the Cardinals will run all over Carolina.

and that may limit Harrison. Yeah. I would play Abuka. I was concerned they were going to run all over the Saints as well. Carolina is worse. Yeah, I mean, it's very possible that Carolina has some offensive success, which would change things. The Buccaneers are going on the road to the Houston Texans defense that looked great against the Rams. I think it's a really close call between these two guys.

Stingley will be on Evans. I lean the Marvin Harrison side. they both saw the same amount of targets so Mike make the decision I would play Let's put it all on Mike I agree

Mike right win or lose right here then it's time to win and I would play Marv okay all right

Tyler or Abuka okay all right I would I'd play Marv if I had them both Tyler has a question

another drop candidate is Luther Burden dropable and redress Luther Burden did nothing in week one. It's just the problem I had with Burden was not the skill or talent. I loved him coming out of college. It was like, it was DJ Moore, Roma Dunesay, you know.

Olson Lovelin. You didn't list the real problem. The real problem is Zekees. It was in this week. He did play 27% of SNAPs, but only had one target. I am fine dropping Luther Burden right now. I do have a long view of him that by the second half, half, he will be on the field over

Zakias, and then we will see. I love this question because it's so brutal. Ben in Kansas City should I consider trading Malik neighbors for J.S.N. Oh, that is brutal. It's brutal. We just talked about the wider or the quarterback

situation in New York, which let me apologize. Oh, yeah. I got fooled. Oh, yes. I did too. I was in that too. And then you guys fooled me with you're being fooled. Well, when we speak into these microphones it sounds authoritative Mike and I don't blame you for listening to us

but listen we got fooled by a bad tweet that had claimed that Brian Dable had gone to ownership about Jackson Dart it was false I was tricked Jason was tricked and uh it happens it does happen and I apologize and I'm sorry for yesterday's conversation completely based on that um also on the heels of that though we will all be tricked yet again

this week as Russell Wilson remains the starting quarterback for the Giants. Just like our eyes will be tricked into having to watch a bad game. Look, Malik Neighbors is going... According to a report from me, Brian Davils should go to ownership and ask if Jackson Dart may start.

I was a believer in JSA being a top tier, true top five candidate this year. Malik Neighbors, it was... You don't want to overreact to one good week from JSN and one bad week from Malik Neighbors and be like, okay, like I would probably stay with neighbors. would. But I don't think it's going to be that much of a difference between the two. I agree. The gap is not

what it was perceived before the season. If you watch the targets, I watched every single Malik neighbor's target last night. They are so, so bad. And I feel bad for him. He had 12 targets. He only caught five of those balls not his fault you can't get did you like when you were watching you feel like the all whatever the all 22 no no no the

all incomplete passes were not his fault pretty much I mean you know I he looked excellent Malik neighbors looked excellent but my point here is he had five for 71 that's not a bad game at all

when you have awful future like the if that's the floor amazing you know what I mean that's my point it and it is the floor for him it absolutely is quarterbacks will change but the offense can't exist without throwing him the ball a ton so that

that makes a ton of sense the milkman in Iowa writing in the it does say it just says milkman oh oh man it could have been any milkman's father to many do we have any milkman Oh. That's a good talk.

That's weird. That's up there with your 1800s joke. It's about the same timeline. Are there milkmen? There has to be some milkman. There has to still be some. The baby boomers listen to the show love that joke. I feel like people are more into like.

That's true. Like organic, like pure. Raw milk. Raw milk? Like I feel like there's milkmen again. I feel like they're back. But I want to believe that they go into the attic and dust off their old milkman uniform.

and like we are so back. We are back. Let's get on the road. And he's in Iowa. I don't know. If your opponent has a star wide receiver on their team, is it beneficial to stream that receiver's quarterback? My brother has Nico Collins and IFC Stroud. It's not, you want the most points at your quarterback position possible. There is a small, if Nico is the only good player your brother had,

I could understand like you could neutralize there's been a situation like that where I've neutralized the one good player on a team usually though if you have one good player who's like a Malik neighbors where the target share is going to be unbelievable and the vast majority of the fantasy points comes from Malik neighbors you want the wide receiver not the quarterback because each one of those plays

the wide receiver scores more than the quarterback does for points for receptions all of that yeah if you could choose yeah in this situation I would just want to get the most points because guess what else neutralizes him? Outscoring him. Yeah, if you, if Nico Collins scores 20 and C.J. Shadz scores 20, cool, you did it. But if you have a quarterback that scored 25, you score more points.

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