Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - The 2025 “My Guys” Episode! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/15

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Aug 15, 2025. It’s that special time of year, “My Guy” picks! Find out which players Andy, Mike, and Jason don’t want to leave 2025 fantasy football drafts without! P...lus, a big Rashee Rice suspension update and more. Don’t miss the annual Footballers tradition! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT + Draft Analyzer available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Intro(03:13) NFL News(12:20) My Guys(13:15) Andy My Guy #1(18:50) Jason My Guy #1(25:00) Mike My Guy #1(30:50) Andy My Guy #2(37:10) Jason My Guy #2(45:05) Mike My Guy #2(48:08) Andy My Guy #3(53:22) Jason My Guy #3(57:40) Mike My Guy #3Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Fantasy Footmullers Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in! What, do you want it on my guy? Yeah, of course I wanted it. Of course I wanted it. You know what? It's my guy time.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Yes, it is. That's fine. All right. That's fine. I'm the captain now. Friday, August 15th of fantasy footballers, it's a... You write a song. It's a my god.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Do you want to have your own lyrics? Episode. Welcome in. We're doing well today. Oh, yes. This is a big day. It's a one-of-one. It's the my guy show.
Starting point is 00:00:59 it is the 11th My Guys show. According to Kyle, if you count the Dante Pettus Pivot, this will give us 100 My Guys all time. Okay. Then we count it. So we're going to count it the five days of Dante Pettits or whatever it was. But today we'll be revealing our three My Guys, the flag plants for the 2025 season, the players that we are most excited about that represent a player that we fundamentally believe in their talent. what they represent in your fantasy football drafts. It is Friday, August 15th.
Starting point is 00:01:34 You never know what wild cards are coming down the way. But we are going to reveal them here on the show today. There's been a lot of predictions out there. I know you two both put a post up that was, you know, people trying to guess them. Did anybody nail it? Did anybody get the three names on your list? I did not.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, I haven't gone back after the first few hundred, but I did not see one in the first few hundred that nailed all three. Mike, did you have anybody that got close? I have not, but I'm going to run this thing through and see if we'll double check it right now. But I haven't seen a three for three yet. All right. So we'll get into that very shortly. Start revealing the my guys for 2025.
Starting point is 00:02:12 We've got some news. We got some news. We got to cover it. It was breaking yesterday right when the show released about Rashi Rice. We'll talk about that shortly. We've got time for some mailbag potentially today. We've got the UDK for Life giveaway. It's Friday, which means,
Starting point is 00:02:27 we want to remind you the live stream is Monday so your opportunity to pick up the UDK before the giveaway is well we're almost out of time here Monday afternoon we'll be doing a live stream event answering more questions
Starting point is 00:02:42 and giving away an ultimate draft kit for life as well as assigned Jamar Chase jersey so the way you win that go to ultimate draft kit.com make sure you have picked it up if you've already bought it if you already an ultimate member you already entered to win Yeah, if you're in the Ultimate Foot Clan subscription, which comes with the UDK, you are automatically, if you did this, you know, last year and you're signed up, you are in the running for it forever.
Starting point is 00:03:10 All right. Let's jump right into that news. News and notes from Around the League, presented by progressive insurance. Well, we did the mock draft show. We talked about Rashi Rice later in the episode. We talked about him going in the eighth round and whether that was a good place for him to go in light of a suspension that is on the way.
Starting point is 00:03:32 At that time, the assumption, like Jordan Addison, was that the suspension would occur before the season began. And it would be anywhere from two-day games. We got word yesterday morning that, from Adam Schefter and others, Rashi Rice's disciplinary hearing is now scheduled for September 30th. So that means there's a lot of games before September 30th. 30th. He's likely to play the first four weeks of the season. The Chiefs play against the Chargers in week one, then Philadelphia, then on the road against the Giants, and then Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It's a gauntlet for those first four weeks. Every expectation on the draft cost of Rashi Rice was based on, hey, at some point, I'll just get him back, and then I'll have them for the fantasy playoffs and for the stretch run. And he represents, I mean, you made the case yesterday, or two days ago on the mock draft. That was yesterday. You made the case that like the reason you're willing to spend the draft capital is because he represents
Starting point is 00:04:33 a wide receiver one. It was different than the Addison argument. Yes. What's funny is, you know, we're doing the my guy episode today and spoiler, Travis Kelsey is not one. But I do know No, he was on the somewhat short list for Andy. I kind of toyed with him.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I think right now before today the idea that Travis Kelsey gets off, you know, the first four, six, eight weeks gets off to a hot start when... Which, older players, they're better at the front half of the year. Yeah, so it made a lot of sense as a draft pick, but this news really hurts Travis Kelsey as a draft pick for getting off to a hot start. I mean, obviously, we still expect Rushie Rice to miss time this year.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah, so I was going to lay the rest of that out, by the way, 2015, my guy, Travis Kelsey, was Mike's, it was Mike's my guy in 2015. That was a long time ago. Seems like a good one, though. But the situation now is that Rashi Rice is going to probably play the first four weeks, have this hearing. We don't know whether it will be an immediate suspension. We think it probably will be at this point. That will be two to eight games.
Starting point is 00:05:40 You also now have a buy week, right? You've got week 10. Week 10 by week. So just to paint the worst picture here for your Rashi Rice gamble in the draft, it's you spend a pick on him. He plays four weeks. if he got to spend at eight weeks, which is in the realm of the outcome, they're expecting two to eight,
Starting point is 00:05:58 then you miss another game with the buy. So you would not have them from five to 13. And then do you have the confidence coming back in a week 14, 15, that this guy that missed, you know, they get into a groove on their offense, they have all these other players doing things. He's going to come back week one and dominate.
Starting point is 00:06:14 That's a tough bet. Like, to me, this is worse than the scenario that was already bad. I totally agree. We are, it's a you have to be in a holding pattern but I guess we don't even have time to hold because you won't know
Starting point is 00:06:29 he's I still believe he can be a difference maker there's a chance because like we're all we're all three of us expecting six is that where we are that was my prediction I think Andy was at eight but you're still okay but it's like
Starting point is 00:06:43 there's a chance I guess it's four and if it's four then you know like the mock draft that happened with the eighth round and a 10 teamer, that's still perfectly fine. If it goes to six, because of the buy week, now you're really inviting some chaos
Starting point is 00:07:02 of just having to hold him on your bench and then really hoping he's ready to go. He won't be on your bench. It's a tough situation. Once the suspension happens, without IR eligibility, right? So instead of like trying to hold in the beginning of the year when you don't need,
Starting point is 00:07:17 there's no buy weeks, right, in the beginning of the year. So you maybe can get by, with a player sitting there doing nothing, it's harder to have a roster spot filled up for those other weeks. You can make that argument, but I don't I don't really, I don't see this
Starting point is 00:07:31 as significantly worse. From a strategy standpoint, I prefer to draft players who get off to a hot start. I want players that, you know, I want to start 4 and O. It gives me more room to maneuver and make decisions and trades and
Starting point is 00:07:48 waiver pickups that, you know, allow me, space and time to prepare for the playoffs. Now obviously if Rushie Rice gets into week six and then his suspension comes down for eight weeks, okay, at that point you can maybe just drop him, you know, but I like getting off to a hot start. And I, we don't know what the suspension is going to be. He's obviously got this meeting on September 30th. I don't know if there's a way to push it into the next year still or not. But I do like the fact that it's like, okay, if I draft this guy. You play him? I can play him to start the year. I did mention the
Starting point is 00:08:24 tougher schedule to start the year on purpose. That is one of the things that I think is intimidating. So whereabouts, Jay, are you okay taking him? I'm okay taking him when he's basically not one of my starters. So round six or seven? Yeah, exactly. I would say round seven, I would pull the trigger still. Also, I get
Starting point is 00:08:44 the NFL. I'm sure everyone there is extremely busy. Like, you know, multi-billion dollar industry. I get it. Yeah, busy buying ESPN or whatever they're doing. They can't squeeze this meeting in? Like, what? How is it being planned this far in advance when they've known about the situation for, like, when did it take place?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Why do you need this meeting? Did, did Addison have this meeting? Or did they just go? I think they all get a chance to go, like, share their side. It does feel weird that it's the end of September. Maybe you need more time together information because his legal situation was so significant. I can't. I don't know. But that is the lay of the land as of today, what we know, and I'm sure we'll have updates for you. It makes it, it is a gamble. It's a huge gamble. There could be that, you know, I don't know what the odds are. Maybe it's a 10% chance it gets pushed to another year. I mean, you get surprised. You take him a, if you get Russia Rice in the sixth, seventh eighth round, and he plays the whole year. And he plays the full season. You just stole. So it's, um, it's wild. Dan Campbell said Sam Laporta. He's going to miss a little bit of time. It's been, uh, rumor to be only a few days. though still expected for week one. He said it was not
Starting point is 00:09:51 serious. Chris Godwin. At least the most recent report from Scott Reynolds said he would be shocked if he wasn't on the pup to start the year. Yeah, I mean, I expect he's going to miss the first month of the season and then come back slow. I have a funny feeling we'll talk about him a little bit more
Starting point is 00:10:07 later. Shadur Sanders. Yeah, Rashi Rize, Chris Godwin, both my guys. Shadur Sanders unlikely to play in the second preseason game with the oblique injury. That's a bummer for him. And then this is, this is, I don't know, Beckham's agent must have paid Tom Pelliser. Wait, he must have paid. He must have paid us. Why are we, we are choosing to put this in our show now. I didn't know who tweeted it. And I was, before you jumped, I'm like, oh, I'm going to guess. This is Pelliserra.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Oh, you were right. Yeah. He, of course it is. He's reporting that Beckham has drawn interest from several teams and plans to place. Tom's on the take. Tom's on the take. Tom. This is a scratch my back. I'll scratch your stitch. It really is for all of his people. The reason he gets some good scoops is because he's like, yeah, okay, I'll put this out for you. Next week will be Beckham looks better than he's ever looked. No one. All pro. Blown interest from several teams is a flat out lie.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Like, there's, there is, if O'Dell Beckham Jr. signs a contract, I'll eat cold spaghettios, whatever, you know, what do you do? Oh, SpaghettiOs of cheese? Oh, that's disgusting. I'll eat that during the show. But it's not cold. But the nice thing is, I don't have to do that because no one's signing O'Dell Beckham Jr. Oh, I'm not going that far. I think he probably finds a team, but I don't think a bunch of teams are interested,
Starting point is 00:11:30 and I don't think he's going to be a good deal, and I don't think he's going to do anything. But you can eat your humble pie or whatever it is. SpaghettiOs. That was new. He's like, please sign him. I'm really, I've been on a health kick. I haven't had SpaghettiOs in a while. I would really like Odell Beckham.
Starting point is 00:11:46 No, come on. This isn't real. Oh, that's, that's... All right. What are you trying to do back there, Matt? I was going to hit the breaking news button, you buffoon? He's trying to... You're trying to give us fake information during a recording?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Just... We got like a Slack update that he's coming to Baltimore, but it was just him signing last year. Thanks for nothing, Matt. All right, that was news and notes. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance Quote Today at Progressive.com, progressive insurance company affiliates and third party insurers. Not available in all states or situations coverage subject to policy terms, limits,
Starting point is 00:12:17 and conditions, it is time for my guys. Nothing you can take and tear me away from my guy. I was told we were redoing the video drop for my guys this year. I canceled it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 We should have. Did you cancel it? I don't know. That's retro now, guys. It's cool. It's one of the worst things that I've ever seen. Horrific. That's just like this episode is Too important. It's a horror movie. It's a horror movie.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Too big for that kind of. Those lips, that's disgusting. That was our prime animator. We paid him $0. I do have an update as I see one person did get my three. And I haven't scoured Jason's entire one, but at least one person got Jason's. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Oh, fantastic. We will send you a swag pack. Do we, I mean, do you guys want to go first? Do you want me to go first? What do you want to do here? Are you either? You're up. I'm up. Let's get this one out of the way.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Jameson Williams. Jameson Williams is my my guy for 2025. I alluded to the fact very early in the offseason that if his draft cost does not rise significantly, that he was most likely going to be here, Jameson Williams is currently going in the late fifth round on Sleeper, the late seventh round on ESPN. This was the wide receiver 19 last year. He's being drafted at the wide receiver 27.
Starting point is 00:13:57 My guy is always around, you know, the story of a my guy is draft cost, upside potential. Last year, over 1,000 yards, seven touchdowns. He gets the end of rounds. He gets the rushing opportunity. He was one of nine players in the last decade with 1,000. plus receiving yards on fewer than 100 targets. But what I love about the offseason buzz, the vibes, all of the conversations around
Starting point is 00:14:22 their offense, he's taking those next steps. He is a true top 12 potential type of wide receiver with the physical gifts, skills, and abilities that he has. He is moved all over the field and yet is a full-time guy. He was the primary X receiver in two wide, the Z and 3 wide, and then he lined up in the slot 36% of the time. He runs super high value routes. It's the explosive play type of situation with him, posts, go routes, crossers. He was, you know, on those routes in particular, he's targeted more than Chase, more than Jefferson. And he's got those kind of skills and
Starting point is 00:14:59 abilities. He's the 80-yard touchdown guy. He's the guy that can go out there and do major, major damage and play action. And unlike previous off-season, the drumbeat right now he's so positive around James and Williams. Yes. And so a true breakout for him, it's very clear that you can go from wide receiver 19. You get those target totals up. You get more of those opportunities.
Starting point is 00:15:22 He's a threat for double-digit touchdowns. I think those are all within the realm of outcomes. And you've got comments this offseason. I'll just give you some of that fluff because that's what my guys, you know, we're going to bring some of that up. John Morton, I mean, their offensive coordinator talks about Jameson Williams. He has been unbelievable, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:15:41 in the meetings, the attention to detail, excited to have him out there. It's going to be a breakout year for him. Previous years, it's like he's got a long way to go. He's got to figure a lot of things out. Dan Campbell was always equivocating. We always had doubts. Like, if you look at... We used to make fun of the, you know, we talk about negative news is more important than positive news this time of year. And we would always bring up the comments like, this does not seem good for Jameson Williams. And it's completely 180 now. Yeah, no, it's been very, very positive. And when you really look at this, like, you still haven't seen a full season out of him. That was a wide receiver 18 finish in half point in 15 games last year.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He played 12 the year before. He played six as a rookie. You haven't gotten the whole picture of Jameson Williams yet. I don't know if that's why he is discounted right now. I don't know if the perception of Jameson Williams is just wide receiver two, three. Like, that's all you can think about or like it's going to be a very hit and miss. And I think you've got the opportunity this year to take it to the next level. So, you know, to me, that makes him a my guy.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He's in that perfect range. A couple years ago, Evans was going much later. Finally, you know, he was starting with Baker. You hadn't seen that together yet. I'm just very confident about Jameson Williams and the cost has not gone up. All right. Well, are you in, Mike, on Jameson Williams? Oh, I thought you're saying it in my up.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah, I'm very in on Jameson Williams. The breakout came at the right time in his career to keep his draft costs down. Had he done this a year ago, I think we are not talking about him going anywhere close to where he is going in ADP. So I, there's still, I can still see a path where it doesn't work because, you know, the offenses, even the other morning I was reading, I think it was a quote from Amon-Ront-St. Brown saying, Like, yeah, the offense isn't firing like it had been in past training camps. So, like, if we change it a little bit, it could not work out. But ADP-wise, for his upside, it's tremendous. That is the one thing.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Like, when I look at Jameson Williams, I don't know if I'm as bullish on the full breakout happening. He certainly has the skill set to do it. He has the offense to do it. The path is there. But when he's being drafted as the wide receiver 29, it makes no sense to me. really doesn't like he he finishes a top 20 wide receiver last year with missed games and now he's being drafted way below well and the biggest challenge for me actually is how how much do I
Starting point is 00:18:19 overspend on James oh yeah we've seen that because we've done mock drafts the answer's too much well there was one there was a third round one time but but the further you get in the draft the more you can make that choice right and the more that the ADP is variable and somebody might take a shot and luckily when I do my real draft I won't be announcing all of my ambitions and picks in front of the entire staff like we did on the show yesterday. But like I am definitely willing to go up around and take that shot because I want the potential of Jameson Williams. All right. I'll go next. I'm going to go with the player that I think is potentially and
Starting point is 00:18:54 probably the best single value in all of fantasy football. That's my man. George Kittle. Yeah. Georgie Porgy, pudding and pie. tight-in, San Francisco 49ers, maybe the best tight-in in the league right now. George Kittles is the man. Okay, first of all, smelling salts, they're back, baby. They were outlawed for about a minute. George Kittle called up the office and said, I'm retiring there like, you can have your smelling salts.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Second, he just signed a four-year $76 million extension. He's the highest paid tight-in in the NFL. So if you're worried about the age, stop. That's dumb. The camp reports are glowing. Here's from ESPN's Nick Wagner. Kittle and Purdy have been in sync all camp and continue with the deep ball Tuesday. Maybe it goes without saying, but we'll say it anyways.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Kittle has had a tremendous camp. There are zero signs of a drop off and he looks every bit the guy who was the best all-round tied in and football in 2024. I sent you that quote and I know the first thing you thought when I sent you that quote was it was going to be something bad about George Kittle getting hurt because San Francisco has not avoided the injuries. No, they haven't. He is fine. He is well and he will benefit from all those injuries.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Here's the thing in 2025. Tight-in strategy is very similar to how it's been pretty much the last decade. Either go early, early, early on a tight-end stud or go late, late, late. Okay, so the earlys are Bowers, Trey McBride, and Kittle. Well, if you go early with Bowers, who I love, he's awesome, you do not get Drake London or Jonathan Taylor or Bucky Irving or Josh Jacobs. Those are really impactful fantasy assets. If you go early with Ray McBride, you get no Chase Brown. You get no T. Meat Higgins. You get no Kyron Williams. You're sacrificing real studs. Now, if you go early with Kittle, you're missing out on Breece Hall or Terry McLoren or Alvin Camara. Oh, I want to miss out on Breece Hall. If I compare those options between, oh, I've got to take one of
Starting point is 00:20:54 these three stud tight ends, I'm fine missing out on Breece Hall or Terry McLaren or Alvin Camara and getting Chase Brown and Drake London. Like, that sounds like the path. Kittle is too cheap compared to the other elite options, in my opinion. Literally in the UDK, he's in a tier of his home. He's not moved. Well, when I put him on the board, he's been like an all year my guy. Did he move? Did he move? He was in the fifth. Okay. Now, if you look at his ADP, he's a late third round, sometimes fourth round, sometimes fourth round pick, but he's great. Here is, I think, the most telling stat. Because you say, well, okay, you sacrifice less to get kittled in the other two guys. But can he be as good as those other two guys? He's older. Those other two guys are
Starting point is 00:21:39 alphas over the last three seasons. We have, you know, a lot of times we're like, oh, look at this eight game sample. Look at this six game, you know, extrapolated to a 17 game pace. We have 38 games in the last three seasons where Brock Purdy has played with George Kittle in full games. Eight without 38 together. In 38 games, he averages 12.67. half PPR points. Now, if you don't know how that is, like what, how good is that? Last year, last year, the number one tied in did not score 12.67 fantasy points. He scored 12.2. That was Brock Bowers. The year prior, the number one good. It's number one good. The year prior, Sam Laporta scored 11.5 fantasy points per game. In 38 games together. Yeah. And so what's
Starting point is 00:22:29 crazy is it used to be George Kittle, this amazing yardage guy, such a great yards after catch. Not a red zone guy, not a touchdown guy. But that is completely morphed into a red zone monster. I mean, he's targeted 33% of his routes inside the 20. That's number one for all tight ends. 33. Hmm. Sir.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Sir. Sir. Sir. Have some respect. There is a... I just drafted Chase Brown again. There is a sanctity of numbers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Sorry. And singing. It's one of those days. But he has 18. Tomorrow, it's 44. What are we up to? You know, for you? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:23:04 18 red zone receptions. That was fourth among all pass catchers. And if you just look at the situations, final thing I'll say here, between the top three, which I love grabbing one of the top three and Kittles the one I prefer. Bowers last year dealt with no one else to target. You had Jacobi Myers. I mean, the fourth highest target last year on the Raiders. And no running game in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Well, and no one to throw the ball to. But the fourth highest target on the Raiders last year was Alexander Madison. Nice. Yeah. Tray McBride, and obviously this year they spent their second round pick and their fourth round pick on Jack Bash and Deontay Thornton. So they've got other people to target to. McBride last year was the clear number one target, way more targeted than Marvin Harrison. As a Cardinals fan, I would assume we all hope that Marvin Harrison is the number one target in this offense.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like he develops into the number one. Not that that'll make McBride bad, but like he should be. He's the number four pick overall. With Kittle, he's got to deal with Debo Sam. Oh, no, no. Debo's gone. Okay. But Brandon Ayuk's there. Oh, wait, no, he's injured.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Pop, pop, pop, pop. That's right. I mean, we do love Jennings. Oh, wait, no, Jennings is currently injured. Okay. But Pearsall, just back from injury. Maybe year two is better. I mean, Jacob Cowing is there. No, he's injured.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Jordan Watkins is there. He's injured. DeMarcus Robinson, he's suspended. Like, George Kittle is so needed. He is a value. He is a stud. Don't overthink it. Draft George Kittle.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, right now, as of today, Bowers, 204, McBride 302, Kittal 402. Yeah, the, the value is Kittle. And you don't sacrifice those upper echelon talents. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:24:43 All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with Mike's first, my guy. All right, Mike, what do you got for us? It's not going to be Kelsey, I guess. No, it will not be Travis Kelsey for me, but I'm trying to figure out what order I wanted to go on, but Jason kept saying this guy's name, so we'll start there.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Chase Brown. Oh, man, I would draft him in any draft. Chase Brown of the Cincinnati Bengals. I am madly in love with the situation, and he, I mean, he has consistently been in the third round. He currently still is there on Sleeper, Yahoo, ESPN. He's looking like a mega value almost going into the fourth round. But here is my case for Chase Brown. Last year, you know, the Bengals, the situation, we know it's good for running backs.
Starting point is 00:25:44 We just, we're not sure who it's going to be. The team started off with Zach Moss, and it wasn't working that great. And then Zach Moss gets injured. Chase Brown takes the job and becomes an absolute fantasy superstar winning people leagues. He finishes the RB 11, but from week nine, on he was the running back five in fantasy and the final eight game run he was on pace for four hundred and fourteen total opportunities like he was a true workhorse and not just on the ground as a receiver 54 for 360 yards and four receiving touchdowns that run i was talking about week nine on the most routes among all running backs the second most receptions the third most running back yards in that time
Starting point is 00:26:30 and when they get in close to the goal line the Bengals throw they're like hey Joe Burroughs is the captain of this team let's open it up and let's him be the let's let's let Burrow keep throwing so they end up throwing the ball to everybody including Chase Brown
Starting point is 00:26:50 checking out offensive coordinator Dan pitcher earlier this summer Chase Brown is going to by the end of the the season be a household name. He is everything Austin Echler was. You all know who he is. Talking about Austin Echler. And honestly, to throw out the Austin Echler comp is perfection. Chase Brown was a later, Chase Brown was a day three guy. Echler was undrafted, but essentially a player who had to truly work his way up and become the focal point of the running back position for a team. And if you're out there saying, well, it's just, it's a one year thing here
Starting point is 00:27:26 for Chase Brown. And I'm saying absolutely it is not going to be that. The depth chart, you know, yeah, they took Taj Brooks in the third round, and they got Somaget P.Rine. Yeah, of course, P. Rine's going to get some veteran snaps. The third day, not the third round. Or, yes, did I say third round? Yeah, Todd Brooks was a late round pick.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah, Todd Brooks was a day three pick. Samajet P. Ryan, well, he'll be in there. But he was in there when Joe Mixon was there. It's difficult, and one of the reasons why I think all of us are very enthusiastic about Chase Brown and have been. it's really hard to make the case of how it goes poorly for him this season. That's one of the things. Like there's not a really good, you know, nothing in the off season,
Starting point is 00:28:05 nothing in the training camp, nothing in the draft room, nothing in the depth chart, nothing in the offense. It's all positive. Yes. It's just for fantasy players, not quite the pedigree or years of history to drive him up into a place where like eventually, look, Echler was very similar. Yeah, it took time.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Echler did not get anointed a top five draft. draft pick to start, you know, it was a committee year with Melvin Gordon and then it became, oh, he can do more? And then it's like, oh, do I trust, do I trust just the passing down back with Echler? And like, it took a lot of level ups. Yes, and it did. And so we can look at, you know, it's not apples to apples, of course, because these guys came from all different places in terms of draft pedigree, but it's looking at running backs over the last decade who hit 15 or more PPR points per game in year two, like, Chase Brown did. The list is incredible. It's 18 running backs in the sample, and 12 of them
Starting point is 00:29:05 maintained the 15 or more points per game. So it's just like we're talking McCaffrey, Zeke, Melvin Gordon, Camara, Chubb, Kyron, James Connor, Joe Mixon, you know, Johnny Taylor. It's just, it is a list of hits. And then there's just, there's a couple misses in here, Trero CTN. But the point is historically this profile, especially past catchers, it's turned into fantasy success. And there is, the downside is not even is not, it's not in the ADP. He's not going in the second round, which I'm okay taking him in the second round. Like I would be perfectly happy starting with a wide receiver and Chase Brown is my RB1. That's what my confidence is. I would totally take him in the second round. I would totally be willing. We saw it already. I mean, we lived it. We lived it last year when he was the running back five once he got the job. And I remember watching film as the Breeshall manager and being so upset.
Starting point is 00:30:08 We're sitting watching games on one Sunday. And every time Chase Brown touched the ball, it's like, because at that point, it was early on, it was like, Chase Brown's a schlub. Chase Brown is a backup thrust into the starting role. And then I was like, every time Chase Brown touches the ball, he looks special. when Brees Hall touches the ball, he doesn't. And then it turned out, I think Chase Brown's special. I think he was pretty good. Chase Brown in terms of the explosive athletic metric,
Starting point is 00:30:35 he's a 96th percentile guy. Like this is a true athlete who he fell in the draft and it took him some time to establish. And he has established. All right. So Jamison Williams, George Kittle, Chase Brown, the first three my guys. My second my guy.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Amarian Hampton. All right, it is, it is time for the rookie to take over, talent, opportunity, the landing spot, the draft capital. How it is just shaken out for him with the nodgy stuff. I mean, this was a player that we did not know exactly where he'd go in the draft. On our film review of collegiate running backs, he was Jason and I's number one talent to me. Well, number two. Ashen Gensi doesn't come as a rookie. Godly, I always forget. I know. He's deleted out of rookies. But yes. He's just like, yes. Of the rest, he was by far both of our favorites. You got it. And to me, when you looked at the college film,
Starting point is 00:31:36 this was, you know, some college running backs, they've got a ways to go to get to that NFL level of consistency. To me, that's what you saw in film. True three down back. Great pass protector. And the word that kept coming to mind when I watched film on him from the college performance, is smooth. He's just a smooth runner. He's smooth. It reminded me a little bit of like the way that, you know, Arian Foster, it was very smooth in terms of reading blocks. He's not herky jerky. Making the right decision. No Pacheco. No Pacheco. No Kenneth, no Kenneth Walker. Ground gives me power. But he's a tackle breaker. He's in the 100th percentile in yards after contact among all running back. A hundredth? Yeah. Prospects. That's called the best of the best.
Starting point is 00:32:24 in all we haven't heard a hundredth before i've never heard i honestly saying it out loud made me feel like i was like lying like you can't hundred so you could just say like you're the best yeah i think that's what i could have that's not the hundredth percentile we got to start using that more anytime someone is leading in anything he's hundredth percentile in yards so far this year yeah it's correct i mean he's in the hundredth percentile technically yards after contact among the rb prospects he's one out of all He's one out of all. Look, the draft cost is inevitably rising.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Naji Harris, it's been slow going, getting back from the injury. And we don't know if he's there week one. We don't know if he's there week three. Regardless, you're not keeping Amari and Hampton off the field. This is going to be one of the stalwarts of your fantasy football championship run. He is one of only four ACC players in history with 1,500 players. rushing yards and 15 touchdowns in back-to-back collegiate seasons,
Starting point is 00:33:28 Lamar Jackson, Dalvin Cook, Lamarion Hampton, and Travis E.T.N. Those are the only four to ever do it. So yes, the cost is rising, but I don't care. You've got to get them on your team and it's not the cost. It's never going to rise like Gentie. I was going to say, look at the contrast from Gentie to Hampton. And you're telling me that it's a guarantee that Gentie has a better season. He does not check every box that we talked about the other day. The Hampton does. Hampton does in terms of offensive line, winning team, workload. I do not have fear of Najee Harris. He can be a compliment. Do you want to know what it reminds me of so much? I think when I say this, everyone will be like,
Starting point is 00:34:06 oh my gosh, it's totally the same thing. I don't know about that. Well, we'll see. Here's what I'm going to say. Omari and Hampton is to Ashton Genti, what Malik Neighbors was to Marvin Harrison, Jr. this was the clear awesome great prospect. I'll allow it. He is a clear great prospect. Everyone knew Malik Neighbors was the dude. But he wasn't as he wasn't Marvin Harrison Jr. He wasn't the generational prospect.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Or what Brian Thomas was to Malik Neighbors. Right. And so and and but it was still cost a lot to get Malik neighbors, but not nearly as much as it cost to get Marvin Harrison. And, you know, to me he's the, the right one to target. And Khalil Mack, you know, this is a good quote because. it's not just the offensive coordinator. I can give you some Greg Roman quotes about how much they think of Amari and Hampton.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And you know it by what they did in the draft. That was a shocker. They spent it on Amari and Hampton. They could have taken some other, they could have taken Trayvion, Mike's, you know, favorite guy. But Khalil Matt, we, no one's perfect. Right, no, you make mistakes. But no, Khalil Mack, on playing against Amari and Hampton in practice,
Starting point is 00:35:11 I don't want to say how impressed, how he's impressed me. But I can tell you, if you play football, then you know, it's going to be fun to watch him play. and they talk about how good he is at finding the hardest thing for a rookie running back is to take what's given to you. A lot of them want to make the big plays that they made their entire life
Starting point is 00:35:28 in high school and in college and in, you know, Reggie Bush was kind of a victim of this when he came to the NFL. He was great in the passing game. But in the running game, he was so used to hitting home runs for the last 20 years of his life.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Omarine Hampton is a pro's pro at running back. He is a guarantee to give you, like his floor is so high. But his ceiling is, is so high. And it kind of goes with the mystery bag tip from yesterday. It's like you get this rookie that really could be in the Ashton Genti category, but without the Ashton Gently price. So for me, my second my guy, I'm Marian Hampton. Nice. I'm in. You know, we've been kind of
Starting point is 00:36:06 bringing this up the last couple weeks of like we're, we're at the point where you just have to push all your chips in on Hampton. The ADP is that of like the community hasn't. So I think this is like an area of the draft that you can exploit and get an edge and it's like J.K. Dobbins. He's still fourth, fifth round. Yeah, he might jump into the third. Yeah, and you know what? That is okay.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You need to re-adjust how you if you've been with us the whole office, you have to readjust how you're thinking about Hampton. He's the weak one starter. It's no longer how many weeks does it take until he takes over? He takes over now and Naji will be the backup
Starting point is 00:36:46 for the season. JK. Dobbins had nearly 200 attempts in over 900 yards, and he missed four games. And he has one strong leg. Right. Right. Yeah, as far as I know, Hampton has at least two. You know, I've seen both legs. They're very good.
Starting point is 00:37:02 J.K. Dobbins has like a stick leg and a beefy leg. Omarian Hampton, he's got them quads. Yeah. Jason, you've got more my guys to share. I sure do, and I'm very excited about this next one. Let's kick it off with... George Pickens Yeah, yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:37:24 George! I had to pry George Pickens from Mike's cold dead hands. Yeah, we did a jersey swap. We did a Jersey swap situation. He's been on the My Guy board for months. Yeah, let's put it that way. Yeah, it was going to be Mike's or mine. I get them.
Starting point is 00:37:39 George Pickens is a... I win. George Pickens is a wide receiver value that I think is completely mispriced. The talent, the... perfect marriage of his skill set with the team needs and Dak Prescott's skill set is going to surprise people. I mean, if you've been watching any of the camp videos, they're not, there's non-stop. Like, just go to X and search George Pickens. You know, you search any player and you're going to see a touchdown from camp. But if you search George Pickens, you're going to
Starting point is 00:38:10 see 12 touchdowns from camp. And they're all different videos. He is all over the place. He is a deep threat that matches Dak Prescott. And what are you going to do as a defense? Are you going to really focus on George Pickens? No, you're not going to focus. That's like, are you going to focus on T. Higgins? You know, if you're playing against the Bengals? You don't have the option. You don't have the option because there's got Jamar Chase over there. So T. Higgins out there doing his thing in one-on-one coverage against your second best at best defender, if not your third best. And that's what is going to happen for George Pickens, except George Pickens, is going in the sixth round. The hardest thing about George Pickens, the sixth round cost is very
Starting point is 00:38:45 explainable. It's because it's three consecutive years of high expectations and not quite delivering. Yes. Like the talent of George Pickens has never been questioned. The output has always been like, what's going on? Yep. And then you've got Steelers leaving the Steelers. You know, when wide
Starting point is 00:39:02 receivers leave the Steelers, they go to die. Right. There's that argument. But that's really not fair because if you go on a case by case, like Antonio Brown was still good when he left. He just ended up taking a shirt off and leaving in the middle of, in the middle of season. With Pickens, it does feel like you stole him from Mike, but like, did you get like a lit stick of
Starting point is 00:39:23 dynamite? Like, I sure did, and I'm going to toss it right over there against my opponent. Yeah, there you go. And it's going to go blah, blah, blah. All right. Yeah. You're Najee Harris. Okay, so.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Oh, oh no. You can't stop me. I'll say what I won't. Oh, no. Here's a thing. What you were just saying, the story with George Pickens has always been potential, right? Potential. Look, I'm just, I'm just, I'm opening, I'm opening eyes here.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's my guys. What are you going to do? You can't stop us. All right. The potential for George Pickens, he is a contested catch, awesome deep threat. You know, look, in NFL history, there's only two wide receivers who before turning 24 had 2800 receiving yards while being a 16 plus yards per reception player. is George Pickens and some dude named Randy Moss.
Starting point is 00:40:15 He has that potential. The problem is Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, Mitchell Tribeskey. Those are big problems. Russell Wilson, Justin Fields. And you might say, oh, Russell Wilson and Joseph Fields, he had at least a decent chance. No, they were worse than those other names. Those are names that come up in his therapy sessions. Yeah, here is Pickens rank among wide receivers in catchable target percentage.
Starting point is 00:40:38 So not his fault. Just like, could you have caught this pass? your direction. His rookie year 25th. Okay, that's not too bad. His sophomore year, 61st in catchable percentage. And then last year with his best quarterbacks ever, 71st. He was 71st at catchable target rate. So, like, he didn't have
Starting point is 00:40:58 the option to go be great because the passes weren't catchable. Over that span, Dak Press got a seventh in pass success rate, sixth in completion percentage, eighth in passer rating. And here's a great step from Warren Sharp. I think this really highlights what I love the most about this fit and finish with George Pickens as a cowboy. The last
Starting point is 00:41:17 two years, number one in passing yards on 15 plus yard go routes is Dak Prescott. Love it. Dak Prescott, number two, in most attempts on 15 plus yard go routes. Love it. George Pickens, over the same two
Starting point is 00:41:33 years, number one in most receiving yards on 15 plus yard go routes. Number two in most catches on 15 plus yard go routes. This is a match Made in heaven. It reminds me a little of the Baker Evans match because Baker was always a great downfield thrower and he found his guy and now DAC has a trustworthy downfield receiver. And if you look where they are used on the field, they are, C.D. Lamb and George Pickens, it's an exact inverse. Like, C.D. dominates the middle of the field, the line of scrimmage and the
Starting point is 00:42:06 the, the crossers. Pickens is going to be the boundary and the deep in zone guys. I think you can get consistency in fantasy for Pickens in light of, like, I'm sure some of the uncatchable target can be attributed to the fact he has a downfield guy. Yes, yes, absolutely. I don't ever expect George Pickens to walk away being the number one in, you know. Consistency? Yeah, in consistency, but you're going to have monster games. Where's he going right now? Right now he is the wide receiver 29, so he's not even being drafted as a wide receiver two. He's in the sixth or seventh round, depending on your platform.
Starting point is 00:42:40 and here's my final takeaway is I just want to remind people Andy a long time ago you used to bring up you had a problem drafting wide receiver twos for their team like you would draft a bad wide receiver one for a bad offense over a great wide receiver two on a great offense and you realize that was a mistake and here's a stat that proves that in the last 10 years 10 sets of teammates have both finished as wide receiver ones and we've seen an average of four sets of teammates per year since 20. that are both at the same time top 24 wide receivers. This is an offense that can't run the ball. Please, Michael Parsons, don't be a cowboy. Be a bad defense. Throw the ball a ton, and you can't cover George Pickens when you've got C.D. Lamb on the field. So I believe he is mispriced monster games.
Starting point is 00:43:28 He, to me, is a lock as a top 24 wide receiver. And I think there's a world that exists where he is a top 12 wide receiver. Brandon Cooks was a touchdown machine a couple years ago, and he was 30 years old. I was going to bring it up for you. you, the Cowboys Year, when they went into the by week, the schedule, the gates opened to the heavens, and
Starting point is 00:43:48 C.D. Lamb and Dack went on the run of winning people championships. But in that time, from weeks 8 through 18, Brandon Cooks had seven touchdowns. He had, you know, in that, this is Brandon, an old Brandon Cooks. He had six games,
Starting point is 00:44:04 if I'm counting right, real quick, in that time period of double-digit fantasy points. And that was Brandon Cooks. That is not a, that is not the peak of his career George Pickens, and who yeah, he's not met expectations, a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:19 due to inconsistency, but it's like maybe he's not a true number one. Right. But maybe he's a one B. Like, there's guys out there. Is T. Higgins truly a number one? The question is, I think, still fair to ask, but he's
Starting point is 00:44:36 a great one B. I would love a six foot three super, super, athletic downfield contested guy who is 24 years old going into a contract year with a good offense. It does make sense. And the draft price is, uh, it's very attractive. All right. We'll take one more break and we'll come back with our last four my guys. All right, Mike, we, we took a little break in case you wanted to completely pivot to somebody else. It's your last shot. Right. You good? Uh, that the pivot will not be happening. Well, I will say a pivot did have to happen because
Starting point is 00:45:10 oftentimes with these my guys I try to bring someone who I have been steady and higher than ADP on and but I haven't been talking about them ad nauseum over the off season and this player was on the ice
Starting point is 00:45:26 and fire show because I he wasn't going to be in the my guys part because everyone knows but we got to the point where it's just I can't resist I can't stop it Trayvian Henderson Oh boy Trevo Henderson
Starting point is 00:45:42 As I call him the demon He is an absolute speed demon Like just start with the athleticism 95th percentile explosive score You see that in all the camp pilots If you saw the wheel route Yes that the Minnesota Vikings misplayed
Starting point is 00:45:57 But that's the point of he's so fast It is easy to miss play Him in the receiving game he's a second round rookie and you might start at the point of okay well what if we have Krimogeni Vrabel like ah the rookies they got to earn it
Starting point is 00:46:14 what's the best way for a rookie running back to be able to earn playing time pass protection how about pass protection he is an unreal pass blocker Henderson graded out as the best pass protector of the class at the running back position ball control the dude does not
Starting point is 00:46:31 fumble the incumbent starter he has fumbled he has a massive fumbling problem he has been benched we're talking about remandre stevenson has been benched multiple times in his career for having a fumbling problem the only reason that he got back on the field was because his backup Antonio gibson fumbled more than he has a fumbling problem and uh look i'm going to keep it a little bit shorter because i like i said the ice of fire show if you want to go back that was was that this monday yeah who knows what day is it was one of the days recently uh but i like i just laid it all out
Starting point is 00:47:04 But here a quick summary, rookie running back is taken in the first six rounds of redrafts since 2011. 60% of them exceed their ADP expectations. And when you factor in rookies who saw two and a half or more targets per game, which Henderson has a specialty as a pass catcher, that jumps to an 80% of those drafted running backs exceed their expectations. And it took, Andy, I think, a little bit longer to get on board with Henderson, but we're all at the point of our stat projections where we got him at more than 210 opportunities. He is a player that checks more boxes than we realize
Starting point is 00:47:42 because of the projected win total for the Patriots is much higher than the average Joe would expect seeing what they did last year. This is a team that is on the rise and Henderson is going to be a massive part of it. His ADP is going to keep going up. We're currently looking at the sixth round. He will not be there.
Starting point is 00:48:02 He probably jumps into the fourth, and I have no problem with it. I didn't even know you liked him. All right. My final my guy, we're going back to this well. It's worked out very good in fantasy football for a couple of years. But that's not the reason why you believe is because it's happened before. The reason is the player himself and the talent he possesses. The third my guy.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Tyler Warren Tyler Warren, the tight end for the Indianapolis Colts, currently going in the ninth round on Sleeper, much later on Yahoo and ESPN. This was pick 14 of the NFL draft. Yes, LaPorta, yes, Brock Bowers. It's been a good run. We're going to continue the run.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And that's all built upon the true talent and ability on display from Tyler Warren. You can talk about Richardson or Daniel Jones, you want. Just like we talked about Gardner, Minchew, and Austin. Aden O'Connell. And But
Starting point is 00:49:08 but let's just throw out the ambiguity at quarterback. Let's throw out the ambiguity at wide receiver. I mean, we love Josh Downs, the talent. But I think we'd all agree. Josh Downs is not built like Jemar Chase. He's not built like Teterone McMillard. No, he's a, he's a felt smaller guy. He's got a
Starting point is 00:49:24 role on the offense. Pitman, he's a good player. He's a great player. He has a role on the offense. They spent the draft capital on Tyler Warren. You saw it on display in the first preseason game, the type of routes that he ran. Three targets, three receptions with the starters,
Starting point is 00:49:40 never left the field with the starters. Had a hitch route, sat down in the middle of the zone, had a deep out for a first down, saw the yards after the catch on display looking like Tray McBride out there, had a play action crosser for another big play. The talent of Tyler Warren, I don't
Starting point is 00:49:56 think people understand. You look at Brock Bowers and what a dominator he was in college this was he's not far behind Tyler Warren was he had more receiving yards versus man coverage than any other receiver in college football last year that's what Tyler Warren was capable of they even used them in like some some wildcat formations he is an athlete his per route metrics were incredible he had a higher targets per route run than Brock Bowers he had a higher yards per route run than Brock Bowers this that's wild this is a and Brock Bowers was what pick uh was he 13 Yeah, he's in the mid-teens.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Same range. And going to a very similar situation where you desperately need a culture-changing receiver a mismatch. I gave you the numbers against man coverage. He's going to be that mismatch on every single play. And when you're betting on a receiving option, look, you get the ball
Starting point is 00:50:45 in Indianapolis. We don't know what this team's going to do, but I don't think that we look at them as a, you know, this is not a supreme defense. They're going to need to throw the football. Daniel Jones or Richardson, either of those quarterbacks knows we've got to get the ball to this guy with the huge catch radius
Starting point is 00:51:01 with the after the catch ability and here we are again the rookie tight end it doesn't matter it's a ninth round pick we're drafted a bunch of other guys that we know a lot about you want the most compelling argument
Starting point is 00:51:12 against Evan Ingram is Tyler Warren in terms of the draft cost because him and Loveland yeah they represent so much more upside I think the floor is great for Tyler Warren I think you can take him
Starting point is 00:51:23 and start him and even if he doesn't give you a Bauer's year you're still happy you took him in terms of consistency at the position, he's got a natural feel for the game of football that I think is just impressing me more and more and is free. So that's part of the my guy equation. Take these players that have so much tremendous upside,
Starting point is 00:51:43 get them late, throw them on the team, and suddenly everybody wants them in like three or four weeks. There's not a person out there, not a soul that will trade Brock Bowers right now. If you're in a Diant Steer Keeper League, you cannot get that player. And we've got a new generation of tight ends on the way and they're going to be the perennial
Starting point is 00:51:59 All-Stars and I think Tyler Warren is that guy he's got that dog in him. Oh, I was going to start my argument with it, like certified dog watched his college tape and I am you know we're in year 11 of this show so we've seen a lot of
Starting point is 00:52:14 trends come and go a lot of shifts in 80p of where guys are going. It's pretty surprising to me that we've had two years in a row that a rookie tight end has finished at the number one spot and these two guys of Loveland and Warren both with
Starting point is 00:52:31 the draft capital both with teams where like Warren goes into he could be like he could get that Brock Bowers target share and then Colston Loveland while he doesn't project as the number one he goes to an offensive situation that should be very plus
Starting point is 00:52:47 and these guys are going late like the fact that that drafters didn't react to it is surprising to me it shows the overpowering effect of team vibes because Because Detroit was awful before LaPorteur got there. Their offense was not special. And the Raiders, terrible.
Starting point is 00:53:02 No idea what's going on at quarterback. And I think that's... Still were terrible on offense. Right. They were. They were terrible. And that's like Brow Bowers could be very, very good. But then you look at Tyler Warren and the question marks, they all surround the other positions on the field.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It's just a great ADP bet. All right. I'm doing another rookie ADP bet because if you want to say a player is mispriced. There is a first round NFL draft pick at wide receiver who is on a great offense where the role
Starting point is 00:53:39 is pretty much already established from week one as an on the field you know 100% type of player and he's being drafted in the double digits like 10th round. Oh baby. This is is a guy pre-NFL draft. I was in love with. I think he is the best wide receiver of this
Starting point is 00:54:05 draft class personally. That doesn't necessarily mean he has the highest fantasy ceiling. But he might. He very well could. I mean, he profiles kind of like a Chris Godwin, right? Like he is a really just solid route runner, great hands, good athleticism. He's going to have the boundary work. He's just like a kind of a perfect actual NFL wide receiver. And how did Chris Godwin do last year? There's not a guarantee that people know who he plays for. So a mecca and listening to this show. That's how double-digit rounds he is.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yes. Right now on ESPN, he's at the back of the 11th round. If you're on ESPN, goodness gracious, 10th round comes, just pull the trigger on a mecca at Buka. Rookie wide receiver for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Chris Godwin last year in the first seven weeks was the wide receiver two for this team for this offense with Baker Mayfield. And Godwin, we just talked about on the news today.
Starting point is 00:55:01 He's not there week one. He's probably going to start on the pup. If he misses the- Pupp is four games minimum, by the way. For minimum. If he comes back in week seven, that makes sense. And I'm not worried about when he's back either. He'll start a little bit slow, but Egbuka will establish himself as such an important piece of this offense.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Mike Evans will take a step back eventually. I think Mike Evans is a good pick this year. but this is an offense you want pieces of, and this is a double-digit first-round rookie. And if you're not familiar with Amika Agbuka, because we talk a lot about the other two first-round wide receivers, and we haven't mentioned enough about Ibuka, he was a five-star recruit going into Ohio State. He was ahead of in the 2021 high school draft class. He was ahead of Brian Thomas Jr., ahead of Xavier Worthy, ahead of Malik Nevers, ahead of Marvin Harrison. And then what did he go and do in college?
Starting point is 00:55:53 Oh, he just, you know, set the Ohio State record for receptions all time while playing next to Garrett Wilson and Chris Olavay and Marvin Harrison and JSN. He's a stud. Like, he's a great wide receiver. If you listen to what is being said from Tampa Bay, everything is a Bucca. Everything is. He is a pro's a great blocker. He knows every position.
Starting point is 00:56:17 He knows the playbook perfectly. He's where you want him to be every time. there was uh baker mayfield was talking with the kelsey brothers um you know and and the question came from just jason kelsey baker what are you looking forward to this year with Tampa bay that's the question completely open-ended like what are you looking forward to his answer emeka abuka is an absolute stud he's a real deal like you know he's not saying like what player how are the rookies like he's just like what what is what are you excited about this year he's like dude that dude's legit i i've seen todd bo we know
Starting point is 00:56:51 Todd Bowles. He's been out here in Arizona. He's been the defensive coordinator. He's been a head coach before. I've listened to him to talk. This is not a guy that is flowery with his language. He is a kind of like one of those professional coaches, keeps it close to the vest. He had no problem just basically saying
Starting point is 00:57:07 that Abuka was the real deal in every regard. So I agree. I'm so excited for what he represents in fantasy and for this team and for Baker. Right? Like you want Baker to have a solidified, you know, set of wide receivers, and it feels like you just got this next generation guy as Godwin and Evans begin to, you know, wind it down. Yep. So Ibuca, your final
Starting point is 00:57:32 my guy. My final my guy, double digit round auto selection. Yep, I love it. I am fully on Ibuka, too. And guess what? There is a one more rookie wide receiver that I am all in as well. Tetaroa McMillan T-Mack T-Mack out of U of A he plays for the Carolina Panthers His ADP right now is about the back of the fifth on Sleeper
Starting point is 00:58:00 The other platforms are lagging They are trying to to catch up So he's a rookie So I can't talk about his production as a professional Just I can talk about him as a prospect Like I said, U of A How did he do there? Well, year two, over 1,400 yards
Starting point is 00:58:17 His final year, year 3, 84 for 1,308 touchdowns. We're talking about a play with the most receiving yards in school history. Starting there, that's a great place to start. Then you talk about the comparables. Marvin Eloquin, he's one of our writers. He especially helps us out on the Dynasty Pass, which is available in the UDK Plus. But he has his own way of looking at players, and he's just comparing them. And for McMillan, when you factor in,
Starting point is 00:58:47 Wait, because this is a big dude. McMillan profiles as a true number one, an ex-receiver, 6-5-212. So when you factor in, you know, size, draft capital, McMillan was an early declarer. He didn't play his fourth year of college eligibility. The names that show up are shocking because it is DeAndre Hopkins, Drake London, and Julio Jones. This is exactly who you would like to be associated with if your goal is.
Starting point is 00:59:17 to be a good wide receiver in the NFL. Now talk about back to the production in college. You know, you've got to be able to play against zone. You've got to be able to play against man. Well, the good news is against zone coverage, he was excellent, a 2.82 yards per route run when defenses are playing zone against him, smart player figuring out how to find the space and get it done.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Man coverage, even better. And that's what I want out of my ex-wide receiver. I want a guy who can just bully a number, number one corner. We're talking three and a half yards per route run. This is absolute ridiculous production for him. Then you look at where is he going in the draft? Fifth round. Okay. Leporta, Jason's ice player from the Fire and Ice episode. Joe Mixin got a bum foot. David Montgomery, the backup running back on his own team. And then there's Tedderall and McMillan. He is sitting in the perfect place for for his draft
Starting point is 01:00:16 pedigree and who he can become of like he's not he's not pulling a Marv he's not pulling a Malik neighbors who went in the second and third round or so last year in ADP it's going in the back of the fifth round there is there is very little risk for the
Starting point is 01:00:32 upside that he could bring you I don't know if in the very very beginning of draft season I believed he was an alpha I definitely believe he's an alpha and I don't think that everybody understands what I think is the gap between McMillan and the rest of of their roster
Starting point is 01:00:47 at wide receiver. Right. I think, I'm sorry, Adam. I'm sorry, Adam. I think it is a massive,
Starting point is 01:00:55 massive gap between those. We're talking, you know, Garrett Wilson and everybody else he's ever played with not named Devante Adams. We're talking, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:03 Terry McLaren and everybody else he's ever played with in Washington. It is a, it's very obvious to me, even from the preseason, what we've seen so far, the plan.
Starting point is 01:01:13 The plan is you're the driver of the offense. It's not. any of these other guys. We'll hand the ball off to Liget every once in a while. We'll give a crosser to Thieland. Coker, you can contribute in the red zone. I really truly believe Tetero McMillan is there. Full plan on offense. And I think you'll see it sooner than later and regret not drafting him sooner than later. Speaking of the plan, let's go to the team level. We got the Carolina Panthers, and I get it. There's a stink. There's a stench among
Starting point is 01:01:42 the Carolina Panthers. They have been bad for years. But you have to look at at where things are going. From week 12 on. That's actually David Tepper is what you're smelling. Yeah, no, I recognize that smell anywhere. It's a little tepper in here. It is bad. From week, look, Bryce Young, we all saw
Starting point is 01:02:00 it, the beginning of last year that you had the hope when the season open and you went, holy crap, Bryce Young is a catastrophic bust, a true team killer that they trade it up for, and it's just a total disaster. Gets benched for Andy Dalton.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Okay. Bryce Young eventually gets the opportunity back. And Bryce Young plays extremely well from week 12 on Carolina average the team 25 points per game. That's 12th in the NFL. Like that's a top half offense. They are on the way. And then talk you are on team Bryce Young. I am. And it's a it's a scary place to be. I will be honest about that. But the reason I kept saying an ex receiver, an ex receiver, head coach Dave Canales funnels targets to the ex receiver. two years ago in Tampa Bay. Mike Evans, monster season. Last year, before he worked his way off the team, remember what Deontay Johnson was having a resurgence. When Andy Dalton took over because we were getting competent quarterback player, all of a sudden, Deontay Johnson is a weekly must-start guy because this is the offense that Canales runs.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I do believe that's why Canales, when McMillan felt him, they were like, holy crap, this is incredible, rush the card in, go get him going in the fifth is sensational oh and we'll have one last point we love teams that have a high-powered offense and their defense stinks Carolina's defense last year allowed 534 points the most of all time are they excuse me the most of the hundredth percentile I believe that's the zeroth percentile well the hundredth percentile in giving up the most points and maybe they improve but to go from the the most points ever given up of all time to a good defense,
Starting point is 01:03:47 that's going to take some time. So I love Tetero-McMillan in the fifth. He is a very juicy upside pick. He is a stud. So my three, Jameson, William, Amaraynhampton, Tyler Warren, Jason? I've got George Kittle,
Starting point is 01:04:01 George, and Emeka Ibuka. That's right. It's just George. It took me a second. You got two Georges. I do. He tried to find a third. Yeah, but there's not a lot of cutoff. Do you want to go backwards? I think you'll get zero points.
Starting point is 01:04:16 It's got to be first names. We got Chase Brown. We got Trayvion Henderson and Teteroa McMillan. All right. There it is, everybody. The My Guys for 2025 breakers. Breakers? Breakouts, sleepers, bust, and value episodes coming next week.
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