Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - The TRUTH: QBs Part 2 + Coaching Crazyness, Divisional Recap - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/20

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Jan 20, 2026. More TRUTH about the QB position on today’s fantasy football podcast! Get a closer look into 2025 performances from Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, and others! Plus, reactions to the Divisional Round of the NFL Playoffs! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Well, crap. Your bills, they, there's always next year. Should have won the dang game, man. Should have won the game.

Now I don't have a coach. Everything's falling apart. Imagine picking the bills. week. You losers. Yeah, they weren't even close. Yeah, I know, right? Like, imagine a world. What a, uh, was that Rocky one?

Is Rocky one where basically no one wins? No, I think he wins a Rocky one. Does he? No, not Rocky. Right. I'm saying like, there's a winner. Okay. Well, I just felt like that was, that was one of those, you know, we're watching this

game. Andy has all of his chips in on a Bill's Super Bowl. really just trying to will it into existence. It goes way. I mean, it goes way back. You know, the bills were the bills were the rooting interest that I had before we got to the playoffs. The playoffs are clear of Mahomes and Lamar and Burrow.

And this is your time. You saw the emotions from Josh Allen and the players in the locker room. Yeah, because they're pathetic losers. Yeah. The nice thing is, so in this office we have, this is kind of crazy the fact that we, we don't have an office of 100 people or even 32 people, but it feels like we have diehard fans of everyone that was still in the playoffs, like the Packers, the Bears, one of our. There's a lot of fan diversity, team loyalties. But they're all in the play, other than our team.

Our team would never dream of the playoffs. But our team would have lost to Indiana last night, but go on. That's just true. That is a sad truth. Schneider, one of us around here, my dead ringer, shout out. He's a diehard Broncos fan. And he was sad to a degree after losing Bo Nix, after winning the game, that it's like, dude, if I knew we lost Bo Nix, I wish the bills had a chance to, like, win and go on.

I don't think anybody's prediction was that Bo Nix and Josh Allen will both be eliminated from the playoffs on the same week when they play each other. And that's what happened. And so it was a letdown. And then the bears, they go to overtime on one of the, on a 52-yard 14-yard touchdown. That's what that was. There was a 52-air yard. Hail Mary. 14-yard touchdown.

I was standing, so I had gone out to dinner with my wife. We had watched the game at the restaurant while we're eating. We walked next door to get some, like, ice cream. So I got it on my phone. Four or five people in there all gasped. so audibly it startled everyone around us when that play happened. Oh yeah. While we're standing there, because it just made no sense.

It was impossible. It reminded me of like a just throw it up for grabs from our flag football days. And somehow Cole Komet comes free in the back corner and it just. Yeah, it was incredible. And they lose. I mean, it was genuinely a backpedaling, seemingly falling over just because he was running backwards, throw it up for grabs. And then it wasn't up for grabs. who's just to a wide open guy, and that was not an offense, pass interference of the people.

I thought on first. People were mad. Oh, people were like, oh, get out of here. Two overtime games, incredible. One game in which the defense for the Texans did all they could do, and C.J. Stroud did all he could do for the Patriots. Dude, they should have put Davis Mills in. They really not, they should have, I think they could have won the game.

CJ Stroud, he's not a good quarterback, man. He was a good rookie. He's not. He's like, I don't think he's a good quarterback. I'm growing concerned. It was a shell shock moment. I mean, going into New England facing that defense, not an easy challenge, but lost it mentally in that game. And then the 49ers didn't even, they didn't remember that a game this weekend.

Oh, what game? I mean, that was, that was, they siphoned away in order for every other game to be so incredible this offseason. All these close finishes, all these games won by four or fewer points. these overtime games. The only way that could be allowed is if one game took all of the blowout, all of the embarrassment and said, we got you. We'll take it all on us. Yeah, I don't know if you knew this, Jay. You came in a little later. We were talking about it. But the Falcon back there in Ducers Allie, the biggest 49er fan we know. Again, all of our people here had their teams in the playoffs, except for us, riddled with food poisoning all weekend.

That's awesome. And it was better probably than watching this football game. Yeah. Absolutely. So you didn't really, you weren't dialed in for the game. You were like dialed in on that toilet. He was, yeah. Yeah, him and his fiance. Ooh. Like a rotational.

Did you get like the love sheet? Did you get the SNL toilet? The SNL two-seater? No, one was, throwing up in the top bin. Ah, an upper decker. Yes. To get, to get back to how bad CJ Stroud has been. Okay.

It's fun. I saw this tweet from Scott Barrett, a friend of the show. off target throw rate, the worst quarterbacks in the last three years. In 2025, the worst was Michael Pinnock's. 20% of his throws off target. The second worst was C.J. Stroud. Third worst was Cam Ward. Like, you think about that.

You go, Michael Pinnock sucked this year. Cam Ward looked like a rookie that, yeah, maybe. Last year, 2024, the number one worst off target throw rate, C.J. Stroud. Oh. The previous year to that, 2023. The worst was Bryce Young. Remember when he was awful?

Like you're not a starter anymore. The second worst, CJ Stroud. So he's just. He had a great rookie year and is like living on it. He's literally off-tar. Yeah, well, the one comment I enjoyed was he had the best rookie year of all time just to jack up

the Cardinals pick. Because the Cardinals had their pick that year. Yeah, the first rounder. When we traded Will Anderson, another one of our moves. But yeah, that, I mean, that is, that is major evidence to the, you're being complete. I mean, their defense is unbelievable. They were, if they had a middle tier quarterback performance, they win that game going away. The amount of possessions New England had a night, look, it wasn't some crazy great game from Drake May.

One of the scores, one of those scores was a pick six, right? You had so many turnovers. And, you know, they had a fumble down in the red zone again. but like the amount of possessions New England had to scores the defense did everything they could possibly do and it's demoralizing. It's rough. And yeah, C.J. Stroud, are you the answer?

You better figure it out this off season. Next year if your defense plays like this and you go out there and you're three years in a row of off target. That's so insane. I feel like the entire goal of a quarterback. You don't have a bad completion percentage. No, it's a weird inconsistent. thing where throws get away from him.

When he misses, he misses real bad. Yeah, and it's funny, too, because I always go back to... He went full Jake Delome in this game. Oh, man. I'll never forget that. He only had eight picks on the season. And how many... And eight in this game?

Yeah, I mean, it was... What did he have? Five picks in the playoffs? I mean, I'm not... I think he had... Was it four in this game? I think it was four in this game, one in his first game, and then I think... But the first game was all about his fumbles.

I believe he fumbled like four times. So he's turned the ball over, I don't know, 20 times in the playoffs. Yeah. Hyperbole, but not crazy far off. And look, the Rams, the Rams, they beat Carolina by three. They beat the Bears by three. They made it happen in the playoffs with a, I don't know.

You've read it all on Twitter already, right? The interception, DJ Moore, whose fault is it? Blah, blah, blah. Stroud was one pick and five fumbles in the first week. Two of those lost. Five? Yeah. I'm on pro football reference.

That's what I'm seeing. and then four picks in this past one. I mean, how, what? When you have a defense that good, your primary focus is just protect the ball. Yeah, I know he could have spiked the ball to the ground on every play and had a better pass rating than what he had this week.

He had no Nico, but. And no Schultz. And no Jalen Knoll, who they had fully healthy. But they have him like, I think he ran like a handful of routes in the game. It's like, what are you doing? He's a good player. Even when you don't have your number one, number one wide receiver, you can't.

throw four picks and complete 42. Yeah, I mean, you can. Life finds a way. You're allowed to do it. But we were all, when we were watching that game, this was a very, very close, winnable anybody's game.

And at halftime, before the booty touchdown, I thought Houston would win it. At, I thought they'd find a way. At halftime, all three of us, I believe based on what we said, we're not joking when we said, I would put in Davis Mills. I was like, do you do this?

If you remember how the season was going for the Texans, they looked like they were not even a playoff team. C.J. Stroud gets injured. Oh, it looks like their season's going to be over. Davis Mills comes in, wins the next three games. And then Strout comes back and continues the winning streak. But it's like when you're playing that bad and constantly throwing the ball to the other team, you've got to give your chance. Maybe it's just an off day. It's a really tough decision, I think. I was with you.

but I also look at it and I say, man, what does this mean for your team in the next round and the round after that? You're going to need C.J. Stroud with confidence. If he's the one that navigates the comeback, which he was on his way to do, and they went right down the field and scored on the first drive. He was better in the second half.

That is your chance of winning a Super Bowl. It's a tough call. You know, you could have taken that mindset of it. It's a bad day. We just gave him. He needed to clear his head, blah, blah, blah. But it's hard to come back the next week. it was a crazy game. The Patriots move on, the Rams move on.

The Broncos move on with Jared Stiddle and the Seahawks clobber the heck out of the 49ers. So it'll be Seahawks Rams. Based on, you know, we all make brackets, but like based on what happened this weekend, do you have your picks for the two games? I mean, Mike. No, I mean, the Jags went out first round, but I... No, I just mean right now, based on what you're seeing. Like Seattle going out and dominating like that,

the Rams showing they're vulnerable in two of their playoff games so far, you know, my original pick was Rams out of the, out of the NFC. And I had Seattle. I had Seattle as well. So I think I'd switch to the Seattle side after what I've seen and then being at home. And then, you know, you got the Broncos with Stidham, but that defense going up against New England in Denver. We should talk a little bit more about the Broncos with Stidham. They can absolutely win this game. I don't know if they could beat the NFC West.

but I do think that they can win this game against the Patriots. This defense is good. And if Stidham does enough, you know, it's not like Bo Nix has been good. Bo Nix has not been great. He's not even in an MVP conversation for the number one seat. Right. So that tells you what he's been. Yeah, he's been good, good enough to get it done to get the number one seed.

Stidom does not have to come out here and be amazing. He can't come out and, you know, be Max Brosmer. but the last time we saw Stidham start, he had a good game. He needs to be a game manager that isn't C.J. Stroud. Yes. Yeah, I do think they can win that game. It's going to be hard for New England to go into Denver and face that defense. There's some hope out of Denver that J.K. Dobbins could be back.

I didn't even know that was possible. I think that he won't be able to come in and be like, I'm 80% of the snaps. I'm ready for pro football like that, but he can help. He got the ball. The announcer's like, he's the X factor. I'm like, you are drunk. Man, there was an X factor at the beginning of the game. And then he got concussed.

Who? Pat Bryant, the first three receptions of the game. You're serious? You're serious to deny that? Before you move on, we've got to talk about Mike's guys. And we have verified that this year, we didn't know if the year of Mike was seasonal, which is still going, or calendar, which obviously were in 2026.

We verified that it is seasonal. Seasonal. Not only was Pat Bryant on his way before an unfortunate concussion, but bad, terrible news, really. The Seahawks running back, I mean, this is a big deal for a team that has played a certain way all year to success. Zach Charbonnet tore

his ACL in a game where Kinbone Walker, the third, was pretty good. Yeah, he must be he is he is the hero you deserve Seattle and uh now mike's going to get to prove that well he's a free agent and for fantasy he's a free agent he's doing he's putting it all in display on the on the biggest stage and now has no competition to do so in the next round or two he can and then really earn some he could really and he could earn our adoration as a fantasy community because he could get a role

that is more significant than what it looked like halfway through the season as a I thought that it was going to be like the way that I looked at how the NFL looks at players, not necessarily our beliefs in players. But it was one of those where I'm going, okay, you've got Travis E.T.N. is probably ahead on NFL teams. Like I'm going to go sign a running back. Yeah, possible. I think so.

But Ken Bone Walker now has the chance to go out there and just show the NFL. He's your chance to go back to Seattle. Yeah. as the guy. Sharpernay is not going to be ready for the season. Right. What do they do? That would be interesting because he's going to want the bag. Do you keep him or do you just draft somebody in the fourth round and make him your starter? If you're Walker, I want the bag of money and I want playtime.

And you know what else? I want touchdowns. Like running backs out there, maybe you're getting your yards. You want to score. And if the team is literally like, no, whenever we get close, you go off the field. you don't get to score. I mean, that would have to be, if I'm Kenneth Walker, like, that's part of my negotiation.

Is like, we're not doing that again. If I'm going to come back, you're going to give me all the money, and then I will also score. Yeah, it is a seasonal thing. The year of Mike is still continuing. All his players shall dominate forever. And as soon as he didn't need CMC,

CMC would be in and out of the game with injuries. And, you know, that didn't work out for them. We've got news, lots of it. News and notes from around the league. John Harbaugh. Oh, yeah. John Harbaugh is the next head coach of the New York football giants. I mean, the news is coaching.

So it's Harbaugh Giants, Kevin Stefansky, Falcons. How? Just real quick. How do those guys feel? The ink is not drying their contract. And suddenly, oh, yeah. The coaching position. for Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills

pops up and you go you say what? Yeah, I mean, of course. Of course, of course, of course. You would rather like, hey, you might be excited about Jackson Dart, love neighbors and maybe get scattered.

I like Harbaugh going to the Giants. It's great. But if you've got a chance to have Josh Allen, you're like, and I would have won a Super Bowl with Josh Allen. Yeah, that I would do it. That is, that's true. I mean, that's part of the big news. If you didn't hear the bills after their loss, fired Sean McDermott and promoted Brandon Bean to president of football operations. Well done, Brandon Bean. What a, what a roster of offensive weapons you have constructed. Such hits such as Brandon Cooks and Keon Coleman and Curtis Samuel. I mean, Brandon Cooks. Like, what? A game is long.

You know, the James Cook fumble. There's a million different things that happened. All the, oh, the referees is this play call, that play call, whatever nonsense. There were two different balls at the end of the game that were perfect throws by Josh Allen to a wide receiver who was not good enough to make the play. And was their best wide receiver. Absolutely. Absolutely their best wide receiver. This is a personnel issue.

This is not a coaching issue. I don't blame. At this point when you're that many years in. Buffalo feels like they hit a wall. Yeah. You need change for the sake of change. Even if it might be a downgrade, you don't have forever to do it. But y'all didn't change the right thing enough because, I mean, they should have absolutely.

Two pro bowlers out of his last 50-something draft picks, Brandon Bean, not equipping. Like, Alan, I think part of. why most people didn't believe in the bills going to the playoffs is the roster. It's just looking at it and saying, well, they don't have enough good defensive players. Josh Allen. They're not as dominant on defense and they don't have enough. Best player left.

Like the best football player left. And it was almost a lot. But it's, but you need, you need defense. Josh Allen can't go do it. You know what would be so funny. It's almost enough. If Mike McDaniel goes to the just in division. It's like

the dolphins are like, oh no. What do we do? I thought it would be really funny if Brian Davel could go be their head coach. Yeah. Return to, that would be one, because there's word on the street

that the team is very, like the connection with Sean McDermott, like he goes to bat for his players and his players love him. That's the feedback. And they're very unhappy with this move. So how do you reinvigorate them, bringing a familiar face that everybody loved before?

I don't know. Yeah, that could work. I'll do the job. I'm, I'm throw my hat in the ring. You're familiar. Mill of your face. Harbaugh's off. Everybody loves you. Harbaugh's off of the, like, he's not available anymore. So who else to hire but me? Yeah, I think they're down. They, they probably have a few choices ahead of you, but. Which one do you,

I'm bringing, I'm, I'm going to be the head coach. I'm going to let you guys call offensive to defense. Oh, no, no, no, no. He's O.C. Yeah. I call special teams. We're going do some crazy stuff. Oh, that's cool. Every play will be, every play will be mild. Never seen before. Like, and Josh Allen, do something. Yeah, go. All right. This play, we're going to put the ball in the hands of Josh. See what he does. I'm excited about

hardball. It's a stabilizing force in New York. It makes me excited about Dart. He's going to bring in Todd Monkin. It's beautiful. So, I mean, this is best case scenario for the Giants fans and for fantasy football, I think, with Monkin being their their offensive coordinator. The fact that they have so many good pieces on their defense.

They have, there's not a lot of teams that have, you know, that are looking for coaches to have like six elite players. We're talking like one of the best at their position on both sides of the ball. And they have true elite core players there. So I think you're saying it right. The stabilizing force is what this franchise needs. When you've got a franchise that's been struggling for, you know, a decade, you need to. someone to come in and just be almost like the game manager quarterback you need like the franchise manager head coach of like hey we're just going to have a good program here we've got we're going to

be accountable we're going to work hard we're going to do the little things and then look if if dart is something it's a better situation than buffalo could be yeah i would rather have josh down as my quarterback and figure the rest out. I'm on that camp. But if Dart is something real, I think everything else around it is better. We're going to take a quick break. We got more news right after this. Well, social media didn't

win, and the Packers wisely re-signed Matt LaFleur on a multi-year contract extension. I believe they also agree to an extension with their general manager. This is good news. Matt Farr is a great coach. It's not good news if you wanted them out there

in the open market to somehow be convinced to come to a horrible team in Arizona, where everybody else is good in the division, and you have no planet quarterback and a horrible ownership, and you won't spend money, and you're just a terrible franchise top to bottom. Yeah, I stopped caring about coaches that were available. Yeah, they're not coming here. Because why, if they're good, they're not coming here. I cared about one piece of news, coaching news, because this guy was somehow in the list of odds.

The Detroit Lions have hired former Arizona Cardinals offensive coordinator beloved on this show. We love this guy, Detroit. Drew Petsing, congratulations. Enjoy that. I have. I mean, look, we did not like Drew Petsing. No. It was a decently vanilla offense.

Obviously, it worked for total yardage and stuff once you got Brissette in there that could stand in the pocket and allow those downfield routes to develop. He does have a good run scheme. We were down to like the fourth, fifth, sixth string running backs. But the way that he uses the offensive line, pulse guards, I think that's kind of the connection. They talked about, they liked Mike McDaniel. It just wasn't a fit for what they were looking for. And I think that's really what it comes down to.

You look at, petzing is from that, like, Stefansky tree, like, which, I forget which tree that comes from. What I, the part I didn't like about the Arizona offense is, it was not being adapted, in my opinion. Kyler Murray is your guy. Figure out how to use Kyler Murray. And the fact that Jacoby came in and had success is like, okay, maybe the offense is all right. But to be a great OC, it can't be only, well, I need this specific type of guy.

He'll be fine. Look, we say all the blobfish comments and he comes with the stink of Arizona on him. He'll be fine in Detroit. Clayton Adams left Arizona as an offensive line coach and went and became the offensive coordinator in Dallas and they had a great season. Great on the offense. He had a great running game.

Re-invigorated the career of Giovante Williams. Patzing will be fine because he's not an Arizona coach. Correct. And to be, you know, we'll see. We'll see. Kyler's going to go somewhere else and they're going to not be able to adapt to him to. That's what's going to happen with him somewhere else. Cliff Kingsbury had Kyla Murray.

And then he had Jaden Daniels. And one of the offenses looked spectacular. and now he's going to be a head coach again. This show should not be this Arizona-focused, but it really feels like this is the most embarrassing franchise. And it is. It's number one. Jets?

Yeah. Fine. We can compete. Who retained their coach? Yeah. Two teams fighting over a turd. What else happened? Is that all of our...

Robert Sala, the new head coach of the Titans. I don't know. about him yet? I mean, he was highly coveted. I think Arizona was in the running for him. They wanted another interview. He said nope. And the Titans hire him. Well, because all the rest of the coach has told the Titans, nope.

Harba is like, no, second interview, I'm cool. Sala, I think is a good coach. Yeah, we're cool. And I think the Jets were not a good situation. Yeah. But some guys, some guys are elite coordinators and they're just not head coaches and that's a

It's a tough thing for people to actually handle. Yeah, I also don't love having a Cam Ward young quarterback that's like, now we're bringing in a defensive-minded head coach. Obviously, it depends if he goes and gets, you know, Mike McDaniel or someone that's a great offensive mind to run the offense. Maybe it can be good, but then you lose that offensive coordinator if they are good. So that's where it's really tough to me. If I was a Titans fan, I think I'd be disappointed.

Eric Bianami is the new offensive coordinator or the returning offensive coordinator for the Chiefs. So he went from head coaching candidate and star offensive coordinator with the Chiefs to one year of disaster in Washington to being, I think, out of the league. Nobody wanted him. And now returns to be kind of a sidekick for Andy Reid

on the offensive side. I mean, that's kind of what all of these coordinators have been. They've lost multiple offensive coordinators over the years. All to great success. Matt Nagy. Yeah, right. Yeah, the enemy. Kind of reminds me of when teams, when coaches would leave Belichick.

Right, yeah. Like McDaniels and Charlie Weiss and Romeo Crenel. Those were all superstars until he didn't have the Tom Brady. Okay. I think that's it for news. Are you recovered yet from the Green Bay defeat? I'll check in with you. I'm as recovered as I'm going to get.

Yeah. I'm doing a lot better. We noticed. We noticed, the Bear fans recovered quickly. I got a text this morning that was like, this is the funnest year I've ever had in football after they lost. So they recovered with a standard of like, we're not normally here, we're just happy to be here.

What a magical season. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were all like, yeah, that's cool. I had a great time. I'm glad they're not giving up their acceptance of loss.

You, on the other hand, you have a higher standard. Right? I mean, you want Lombardies. That's right. All right.

Well, um, we've got more truth for you. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth.

I think I can handle it. I think I can handle it. I can handle the truth. You don't think I can handle the truth? Not according to that drop. We are going to talk about a few more quarterbacks today. This is more of the opportunity for us to, we got through the top 10 on the last episode. Talk about a handful of other players.

And also talk about just in general, I think, the principle of streaming the quarterback position, what kind of consistency we saw from some of these players that finished at the end of the year outside the top 10, but maybe we're more consistent in their opportunities that they had. One of our stats that we talk about every year is how many different NFL quarterbacks finished as top 12 quarterbacks on a given week. And we've done this every year. And we got real close to setting a record. 2021 was the record. 49 different quarterbacks in 2021 had a top 12 week.

Every year we, like I know it's in the 40s every year. And it always makes me giggle because there's 32 teams. And we're not just talking like played football, but you finished the week as one of the best fantasy scores at the position. Yep. There were a lot of Marcus Mariotta situations where somebody just got it done when they started. This year the number is 47. this includes Russell Wilson

this includes Davis Mills who by the way was the quarterback one overall in week 10 and the Russ. Russ was the quarterback too after looking week one just could I don't think it could have gone worse for Russ

and then it was okay sweet we're done with this let's move to Jackson Dart and was the Cowboys I feel like it was the Cowboys were he could go figure he was like oh crap it was Russell going to get no no that was just the Cowboys everybody

False alarm James Winston had a QB1 week. Chador Sanders had a QB2 week. Mitchell Trubisky had a QB1 week. Mitchell Trubisky is actually really interesting in the discussion around, like people want to talk about Malik Willis in the offseason. Mitch Trubisky was a pro bowler. Okay?

And he's been excellent behind Josh Allen. Snoop Huntley was a pro bowler. I'm just saying like, I just think that there are, when you watch what gets started at the quarterback position in the NFL sometimes? Yeah, I mean. Like Spencer Rattler? Mitchell Chubisky is a better quarterback than Shador Sanders.

Yes, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, but not good enough to be a started. 62 different quarterbacks made a start this year. We have 32 teams. We have 62 different quarterbacks that started. And we got about 10 good ones. Yeah, Max Brosmer did not make the list of the 47. Oh, man.

So we want to look beyond the season finish. Max Brasmer is a legend. We talked about Alan May, Stafford, Lawrence, Dak, Caleb, Bow Nix, Hertz, Goff, and Herbert on the last episode. Why not start out with the legend? Oh, man. The living legend, the newly surgically repaired legend. Patrick Mahomes comes in at 11,

and yet his consistency rank is three. And again, consistency is our compilation of how many great games over 26 points at the quarterback position, good games over 21, and bus games more than 15, or fewer than 15 points. When Mahomes played this year, 57% of the games he played were good. 43% was great. That's the real change for Mahomes. Over the last couple of years, he hasn't been the big Bada Boom guy, you know, accumulating enough stats over the course. of the season to be a quarterback one, you know, most every time, but not winning you weeks. And to start this season, he was absolutely excellent. In fact, the first half, he was the number

one in consistency. He was very, very good. Obviously dealt with injuries to his team down the stretch. Scooting. He was running way, way, way more. Yeah, and that's the real issue with the, so he he tore his ACL and his LCL. The current projection is that he's hopeful to be ready for week one. But ready for week one will not include scrambling the way that he was. He was their number one running back. And so honestly, the truth is with... They should get Ken Walker.

Yeah. Oh. They get easy over there. I genuinely believe that the chiefs, one of their primary focuses this offseason needs to be the running back position. They can't, like, Pacheco's never looked the same since he broke his leg. Cream Hunt is too old. They had no running game to speak up.

Their running game was Mahomes. He is not going to be able to do that to the same capacity, certainly not to start the season next year. And they've been like in the rumor meal the last two years. That's sound like a rumor meal and I'm interested. I'm very interested. They're eating them rumors up. Nom, nom, nom, nom.

Today's rumor meal brought to you by Jason's cafeteria. That's a good segment. We should start the rumor meal. Oh, that's not bad. It's the opposite. I'm going to start working on a rumor meal thing. You got a main course rumor. I got it.

You got a dessert rumor. Oh, the dessert rumors are the sweetest. You got a veggie rumor. That one sucks. I'm hearing things about cheeseburgers, guys. For lunch. Big Ben would be interested. Cheeseburger.

But the last couple years, you know, they were talked about when CMC was on the training block. They brought in running backs to look at in the draft. And the way that everything just fell. Versart Smith, the only running back under. contract. Yeah, so it's going to be new blood there for Kansas City. And they need some new blood. I think Mahomes will need a running game and then presuming that they lose Travis Kelsey, which I don't think that's a done deal by any means. But his health meter will be lower regardless

if he comes back. I would put it on the 51% side that Travis Kelsey is not back. Then, I mean, when Mahomes is slinging it to Kyle Pitts, you know, my, it's going to be, it's going to be awesome. My son brought up, I thought, an interesting rumor meal, a little nibble. And it was the reunification of Mahomes, Tyreek, and Kelsey for one more run. Because they're in desperate need of more help in the offensive weapons. And Tyreek is, you know, he's going to be going. They should reunite with young explosive athletes. Well, that would be helpful too.

Maybe ones that are not so they don't take as many chances off the field as well. I think they've got a wide receiver type here in Kansas City, though. Yeah. They like those off the field trouble guys. Maybe if you run fast, you drive fast. I don't know. I must run fast.

Addison runs fast. That means Jason runs fast. It all blows up. Yeah, never mind. The other thing that stood out to me on Mahomes is just like, He struggled against top defenses. Seven point six fantasy points differential

between top and bottom defenses. So he did struggle this year against those. He was pretty good home in a way. Didn't have Rashi Rice for six weeks. Really, from the point that Xavier Worthy was hurt, kind of didn't have Xavier Worthy either. I don't know how much the shoulder sling. We didn't talk about it a lot because the heavy investment

unworthy, it wasn't there for fantasy. But I mean, I don't remember. remember hearing his name after the injury. Really? No, he was... And before he had some, you know, he was more involved. You look at the end of the season. His last month of games, he never had a game with more than four targets. It's just a bit player.

So, yeah, the next name on the list is a tough... Last thing, noticing of like... Because it was, the season was much better. People should be aware that he was really juicing things with his rushing ability. But you're now looking at three straight years. Mahomes 23 his touchdown percentage was 4.5%

that's like barely above league average next year 4 and a half and then this year 4.4 like they they really need to do something about this like when Patrick Mahomes is an average

touchdown throwing quarterback you it's like that sucks that's awful for the NFL didn't he cop pits oh my gosh that's their that's the answer What teams do you have Kyle Pitts on? What is this propaganda? Our main dynasty league.

Okay. There it is. I need them. There it is. Go to Kansas City, Cal. There's something there. When you think of the elite of the league. That's 100% what it is. Yes.

And you know what? That's okay. Thank you. That's all right. Yeah, there's a reason I said Ken Walker to Kansas City. We're only human. We're only rooting. I mean, this is the rooting season.

We don't have a team to root for. Let's root for our players. But you look at the, elite quarterbacks in football. Like, Burrow and Stafford have the best receivers in the game to throw to. But Lamar, Allen, and Mahomes don't. Right. I mean, those are three of the top quarterbacks, and their teams haven't been able to put

that player on that team. They have been able to put that player on the team when they had a rookie contract. Yeah, when it was Diggs and Tyreek. Exactly. And they were way better. Well, Lamar's never had it. That's true. But, yeah, I mean, just-

Mark Andrews was. Yeah, he was. He was awesome, but not, I mean, man. It's hard to pay for top-tier wide receivers when you've got one of the, you know, top five highest-paid quarterbacks. Just is. Unless you're the Dodgers. All right.

Baker Mayfield. They are paying for quarterbacks now, too. Oh, yeah. They just signed Lionel Messi, actually. Lifetime deal. And bought Greenland. Baker Mayfield, number 12, on our list.

30 years old, oof, this is a bad season. He was an MVP candidate for the first six weeks. His consistency ranked, though, 23. That is unplayable. You know what his consistency score is without looking on our website? I will remind you that in the last, the prior two years. Previous 17 games. He was an A.

I'm guessing you have a 17, he never missed a game. Are we talking D? It's an F. Oh, no, that's even worse. That means failing. He was, I mean, six percent great, 18% good, 41% bust. And, I mean, he lost Evans for a majority of the season.

But, you know, it seemed like everything was going to go great for six weeks. They were winning ball games. Last second drives. Abuka was a revelation. Macabuca was, had been moved to the 101 for rookie drafts. Yeah, that hasn't. That's not that way. No, no.

That's not that way. No, it's not. Which really sucks. But, you know, he just fell off a cliff. And then they decided they were going to bring back Todd Bulls, right? They fired Grisard, which means that Baker will now have another new offensive coordinator for the zillionth time. They needed to. Well, yeah, that gives me more hope than keeping him.

Yeah. But the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are like this is the poster child here for why on this show or like your head coach should be your offense. Because when you have a good offense of coordinator, that guy just gets poached and turns into a coach for a different team. And then you're back into it of I sure hope the next OC we bring in is as good. And they like when Canales left, it was like, oh, no. Oh, no. But they hit. They got Liam Cohen's success.

You're rewarded for that hit? Is that guy goes and gets a head coaching job? Remember they had agreed doing a deal with Liam Cohen, and then he snuck out on a plane? Yeah. Kind of snaked him. Oh, man. Let me give me the numbers, though, for. But he won now, so we don't care.

It wasn't just Grisard, though. Baker played bad. Yeah. I would say especially the second half of the year. We know he was dealing with some injuries. last year 71% completion percentage for 4,500 yards and 41 touchdowns, a 7.2 touchdown rate. This year, 63% completion percentage, 26 touchdowns,

a 4.8% completion rate. And, you know, this was a debate in the offseason. Could he repeat what he did? The answer was no. He went back to what he was the first year in Tampa Bay. Feels so much better for Trevor Lawrence here in those numbers. I was going to say that. That is a huge Liam Cohen.

testimony. Now he had lost Canales after the first year and you're like, oh, could he still have a good year? He had a better year. So we'll see what happens there. But this was an unplayable late round pick that seemed like he was discount to me. He seemed like he was going to be discount Burrow. Turned out he was

not valuable at all. I mean, the first six weeks of the year, if you played him, you were happy. But beyond that, farewell. But he's played with Haley, Monkin, Van Pelt, McAduan, McVeigh, Canales, Cohen, in Grisard and now has a new

offensive coordinator again. And I don't think he's going to be in contention for any sort of late round draft pick this year. It'll be a prove it policy for fantasy players next year. I just, I'm really looking forward to the surgery information on what was ailing him

this year and what offseason procedure he got done. You think it's coming? I hope. I hope it's coming. You know, it's one of those like, there's got to be something because it's the, like, I I don't hope he gets hurt. No.

I hope that he was hurt. Exactly. Exactly. I love Baker too much to be like he was playing a tip-top shape. There was a bullet lodged in his quad that they hadn't removed until now. Preferably the shoulder. I'd take quad, but I would want something in the shoulder. Because the shoulders is what went.

Right. He was throwing like there was a bullet lodged in it. Especially when he threw to Ibuka. I mean, that was crazy. It was like the yips when he targeted Ibuka. He transformed into C.J. Stroud for all of those targets. It's just like, it closes its eyes and hopes. Gross. We'll take another break. We'll talk Jackson Dart.

Well, this is fun. This is a good name to talk about for the future. 22 years old. Jackson Dart ends at 13 in fantasy. He had a consistency rank of 13. Now, Jason, we don't consider his missing injured games, right? Correct. So he does not get punished for those. It's just the percentage of games he plays. Just for the consistency rank, right? Correct. Okay. Because his fantasy finish was 13 then.

And that's cumulative, including injured games. Am I right about that? So if you play in the game and you leave, then it counts. If you miss the game. Yeah, exactly, because you got started. But on the high level rank, not just the consistency rank? Like he's 13 in our list. Yeah, that's just total fantasy points scored on the year.

That's what I mean. That's what I meant. Yeah. So 50% good games, 21% great, 29% bust. Went through the transition at the, you know, head coach. position Brian Davel getting fired. Lost Malik neighbors to a torn ACL in week four. Lost Cam Scataboo,

his main man in week eight with the ankle fracture and dislocation. I would love to have the post-mortem thoughts on Jackson Darts season because I, obviously there was a lot of excitement, there was a lot of production, then there was a lull, then we ended stronger.

How about taking a shot at where he finishes next year? Try that out for size. So I am my chips are all in on Jackson Dart. I think that he is... Because of how he spells his name. Because he's so cool. Because of the ex. Do you know he has a brother?

What's his brother's name? Diesel. His brother's name is diesel? Diesel Dart. Jackson and Diesel? Diesel dart. Jackson with an X. I found out about that and I was like, okay, parents, calm down. I wouldn't be surprised if they spelled Diesel to the Z.

I don't think he could have been drafted if his name was Diesel. It's like just What are we doing? And you have kids with unique names. Yeah. You didn't go diesel. And it's, but it's like, it's because of the alliteration. Yes.

It's so intense. It is very intense. It's very intense. And he looks a lot like his brother. Yo, diesel. Come over here. It's, that's, those are two really aggressive names. So I go on.

But I'm in because he has the running superpower that we love for fantasy football. 487 and 9 this year. He averaged 41 rushing yards. points per game and starts. That is the fifth best among rookie quarterbacks ever. And then last year, among 38 qualifying quarterbacks with 200 or more dropbacks. So guys who were actually, you know, getting some volume throwing the ball. He was tied for fourth in fantasy points per drop back. So you had Alan, Lamar, Brock Purdy, and then there was Dart and Drake Mann. They were tied. And he was doing all of this where Wondale Robinson was his number one guy. And that, that's,

not dunking on Wondale. Like, Wondale is a good piece of an offense. He's not Malik neighbors. Like, when you have a guy that you, when Malik is back and fully healthy, that will be a question of the offseason. But you have an elite wide receiver, you could throw the ball at him 10 plus times a week and then figure out the rest. I'm just, I'm super excited that it wasn't just run.

This wasn't Justin Fields here, right? When Justin Fields had his breakout, it was like 60% of his points were coming from rushing. Dart is a good pocket passer as well as someone who's going to run. We do need him to protect himself, though. He kind of has, I mean, there's a pretty easy off-season argument that we're going to have on Jackson Dart, which is all of the stuff that you said, combined with the return of his weapons and whatever weapons they draft. I mean, they could take somebody like Jordan Tyson and pair him with Malik neighbors. and I'm super, I'm excited for Theo Johnson.

And, yeah, Theo's good. I'm looking at their opponents for next year. I was curious what division they play in the AFC. It's going to be the South. So it's Colts, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Texans, that group. You got hardball coming in. I mean, this is your like layup, high upside, exciting pick of next year. He'll be drafted that way.

He will. That'll be like an issue. Six round? No, I think he'll be fifth round. I worry he's a fourth round. If he's in the fifth round, I'll be taking him, no problem. Look at when he started, you know, really going. And like you said, Mike loses Malik neighbors, had a ton of these games where also lost

Cam Scadaboo, you know, not good for the offense. Like he was playing with a hodgepodge group. And from week six on, which is really when he got started, he was very, very good. You're talking about he was the quarterback four in points per game, scoring identical. to Josh Allen, 20.6 fantasy points per game. I mean, you give him more weapons another year in the system. I agree in part on the, he's a good pocket passer. I think he's very inconsistent in there.

I saw a lot of stuff we got away with and felt like, like remember Nick Foles? Yes, the magic season. The magic season where it was like he should have thrown 20 picks instead he threw none. Yeah. It's just like everybody. I felt like there was a lot of that with Jackson Dart. who's a rookie. I expect him to get better at that. And Harbaugh carries enough weight that I think he will hopefully cut down on the concussions for Jackson Dart. You know, he'll be like,

He might listen to him. Right. It might listen to him. He's got the authoritative. Yeah. Look, it's, um, you want that, you want to tell the line. I think Baker does it. Right. Like, Baker takes risks. He runs with a reckless abandoned, but doesn't seem to get hurt. Like you, you're not Josh Allen size-wise. You're not Cam Newton size-wise. You can't do... I don't think he's even... I don't know if he's close to Baker's weight,

but Baker just looks like a... Baker looks sturdier than Star-thust-A. I mean, Jaden runs, and now he doesn't play. I mean, so it is tough. And you can. You can run. He's played that way his whole life. You can run.

Well, yeah. He's played that way. Learn to slide and learn to run out of bounds. Because he's been the best athlete on the field for most of his life, and that is no longer the truth. If you need a first down in a playoff game, you're allowed to go for. Yeah. And with Monkin coming in, you know, is that confirmed?

Or everything I saw was just like, he's probably coming with Harbaugh. I think it is more of that. I don't think the contract has been signed yet as of this moment. But. Yeah, Kyle saying it's not fully official. Yeah, it's a possibility. Harbaugh's quote as we'll see. Can't really say right now.

He's interviewing Tuesday for the Brown's head coaching job. There are a lot of balls still have. in the NFL, that's for sure. But say, if it is Monkin, that's, Monkens got a good offense for fantasy football. Yep. Balls.

Godly. So he's bigger than Baker? He just, but he doesn't, you know what I mean? He looks thin. He looks thin. It's youth. He doesn't have old man. He doesn't got old man strength yet? Yeah, he's just youthful baker-sized. He's not grizzled. You know what I mean?

You got to get grizzled. Like you, Baker looks like he's got the hands of a mechanic. You know what I mean? He's just grizzled. Yeah. Jackson Dart is like a pretty boy. Baker Mayfield grows a beard in four hours. Yeah.

Jackson Darry's never grown a beard. Baker Mayfield can take... Give me five more pounds, Jackson. Baker Mayfield can take a tray out of an oven, no mitt. Right. Oh, yeah. He just grabs it. He's got motor oil on his hands at all times.

I don't know if Dart can grow a beard yet. That's what I said. I don't think so. He's still trying. He could do one of those whispery mustaches. Who had one of those? Adon O'Connell, Josh Allen? Josh Allen's had it before.

Look. Oh, yeah, Edon O'Connell. If I can see all the skin in between every hair on your upper lip, you don't have a mustache. You know who doesn't have that mustache? Old Pittsburgh Steelers, master of disguise. Mesa Taylor with the thickest moustache we've ever seen. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

No, Jackson Dart is going to be very exciting. I want to just give you numbers, like how these players finished as I run through the other name so that you're aware out there of how they did. Sam Darnold was 14 in fantasy points, but 27 in consistency. Yeah, the second half really got away. Yeah, 32 of the second half. He was unplayable.

He had so many bust games. 50% of the time he was busting. Josh, yeah, Jordan Love, number 15, consistency rank of 22. Dear goodness. Jacobi Brissette was 16, consistency rank of 21. Daniel Jones was number 18. R-I-P, Daniel.

Consistency rank of 14. We missed him. Yeah, that was... So did the Colts. They fell off a cliff. That was so sad. You had a team that looked like they were in it for the Super Bowl. Number one record, they go and they add to their number one seed team.

Yeah, they were... They played fantasy. They did what I would have done in. Don't make the playoffs. Trade all my pigs for somebody good. Bryce Young at 19. Consistency rank of 19 really wasn't a fantasy factor very often. Lamar Jackson finished at 20. He's worth a brief conversation. Consistency rank was 16 for him.

And again, that takes the injury games out. He had a 46% bust rate. What was the first injury? So Lamar never looked like Lamar from week 11 on to me, ever. Not one game. I would say from week four on it. It was the ham. Yes, he had the hamstring.

But it was on fire the first three weeks. Oh my gosh. He started the year and it was just like what we saw last year where it's like, oh, this is the MVP. He's going to throw for 40 touchdowns and 4,000 yards and rush for 800 yards. It was nine passing touchdowns through the first three weeks. And then gets injured, misses. Never the same. No, never the same.

No. And it is a little, that one's going to hang over his head a little bit for me. going into next year in the inverse reason that we're excited about Jackson Dirk. You lost your head coach. You lost your offensive coordinator. So you're going to have a change in those positions. If you don't bring in more personnel, you know, look, all due respect is A Flowers. You're good.

But likely as a free agent, Andrews is getting older, Derek Henry is getting older. I need a reason to believe that Lamar can go to an MVP level again. And I don't think you can do it with the personnel that they have. and the head coach and offensive system. Like if I was coaching Baltimore today for next year, I think the highest odds of an offensive coordinator, they'd come in and they'd run Derek Henry all the time.

That's what you do. Because Lamar's been hurt. He's not going to run the same way at his age now. He's 29. He's going to be 30. You can't run him like you used to. He ran for 349 yards this year. He only missed four games.

That's a headline to me in terms of your stability. What's his consistency, great on the website. You want to look that up for a second? He's a B? Yeah. I would love to see him have a superstar tight end again the way that he played with. Well, they have

unfortunately locked up all of their tight end money. Well, no, no, no. I would like them to draft Mendoza and I would like them to trade Lamar for that number one pick and unite him with Brock Bowers. I mean, those rumors... No, those are just, that's in the rumor meal. The rumor mills been talking about...

It took me one second to remember that that was an intentional miss speaking of rumor mill. Yeah. People are talking with Lamar, remember the 101? Jason's been talking with his friends about it. You guys haven't seen that? That is not. I am not creating this out of thin air. You're creating out.

I don't know who you follow. I mean, it makes sense as a rumor. As a rumor, it makes sense because you're saying, okay, if you are, if you're the Raiders, would you rather draft M. Of course. but if you're the team that as I mean right now Andy you were saying all season like

you felt like they're getting near the end with Lamar they're kind of frustrated obviously they fire the head coach expectations were high if you could trade a 29 year old that you're frustrated with and maybe a little burned out on for the number one overall pick if you believe I don't I don't think I was talking about that all season but I brought up the fact that

it was it was serviced by others that this is the Cam Newton age where the running cliff happened and you might not have the same dude anymore. So I, you know, I don't know what Las Vegas is going to do. They're going to draft Mendoza. I think they just tried to get, you know, an experienced veteran in Gino and it didn't work. And I feel like the decision was made between Lamar and Harbaugh and they chose to let go of Harbaugh.

That's fair. To double down on the Mar. That is fair. J. Stroud, 21 on the list, 24 inconsistency, Brock Purdy, 23 on the list. Seven inconsistency. Brock Purdy didn't have a long year in terms of games played, but when he played, he was very good. He's going to be interesting next year.

He, his sample is not gigantic, but we've seen, and at least I think we've seen enough Brock Purdy of, like, that he's a good quarterback, and he is one of the guys that, you know, is not the super scramblers. that can still give us good fantasy value. Having said that, you have, it's all the other stuff around Brock Purdy that will be the issue. Because when he's with George Kittal,

Brock Party dominates. And he will probably not be with Kittal next year. Joe Burrow at 29 and 17 in consistency. Seven in the second half. Great end to the season. Everything you hope to see from Burrow, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins. The Joe Burroughs story is the, you open the book, it's the same story. It's always the same story. If everybody stays healthy. I love that story.

And they kept their head coach, right? You don't have that very good. Oh, I'm loving the story so far. Yeah, but there's missing pages every year. No twists. There's no pages. Don't enmite me. Chapter 3 through 12. We're missing. We got to, we opened the book again, chapter 13. It was pretty good through chapter 18. And then they didn't make the playoffs. There was no epilogue to read. I mean, it is great. It is the perfect type for Mike Wright. I mean, there's no team that better defines Mike Wright's fantasy philosophy than Joe Burrow, T. Higgins, and that team. Give me players who I know. Christian McCaffrey. I know they're good. They just need to get healthy. Guys get hurt, but I want players that I know that they're good. Ken Walker always hurt. McCaffrey always

hurt. I mean, this is, we know the secret now. Who can we find? Jane Daniels, you got to be in on Jaden. Brother, have you seen my card collection lately? Jaden. It's all Jaden. Jackson Dart. Yeah. High highly volatile guys because of injury. Okay.

Jaden Daniels is the last name worth talking about. A little surprising. He had 0% good games and you go, well, he was injured this year, but he played enough games to where you... He had an okay game against Chicago. Sure, but I'm saying by our truth metrics, zero great games. Sure. you know, 22 points was his highest score of the year. That's not what we saw from rookie Jaden Daniel.

It was a, it's better on my emotions to just throw the year in the garbage can. And I think that's what you should do because you have week one, you go, oh, he's the quarterback 14. He scored 20 points. Like 20 points from your quarterback, that's fantastic, even if it's not. Everybody's healthy in week one, so that's easier to finish lower, right? But the point is 20 points, 19 points. seven against Green Bay, which you got to go in the time machine and be a week two when we were watching Green Bay. It was, oh, that might be the best defense in football. Yep. And then he got

hurt. So my philosophy with Jane Daniels is you throw it totally in the garbage. You will have no Cliff Kingsbury. That, okay, that is a fair, very, who did they brought? They brought in, was it Kafka or Blau Blow not Kafka David Blow Blow Yes that's good Is sunlight lower in D.C.? Probably.

I don't really know anything about the eastern half of the United States. I don't either. I want to call it a Colosseum because of how it looks Stadium? Yeah. No, I want to call it. The renderings are? Yeah, the renderings of it.

Is it awesome? It looks so awesome. For DC, it looks like a, it looks like a DC monument. Are they going to rename? I don't know. I think there's a super strong push to rename the team. Because they got new ownership. Just rename them every five years.

Fine. I don't think people are like, the commanders, I think people are just like, whatever. The commanders was not an inspiring choice. We tried to help. We went manders. Yeah, but, you know, like salamanders. They're the commanders now. I don't know.

They will hold 70,000 people with a translucent roof. Oh, that's not good for. Team. For vampires. Oh, okay. Oh, I got you. This is a David Blah. I'm trying to protect this man.

It sounds like the 60-minute mark. No garlic price. We're going to say goodbye. And then we're going to come back and do another show on Thursday. Talking the top 10 running backs and any other. I wonder who's in that list, guys. Any other tantrums we want to have. Take care.

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