Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - The TRUTH: RBs Part 2 + Playoff Reactions, Tough Guys - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/27

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Jan 27, 2026. More TRUTH about the RB position on today’s fantasy football podcast! Get a closer look into 2025 performances from Ashton Jeanty, Josh Jacobs, and others! Plus, reactions to the Conference Championship games! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in the fantasy footballers podcast. Back again, Tuesday, January 27th. Welcome into the show. More truth to talk about. More snow to talk about. Oh, yeah.

And we have a pair of teams now. destined for the Super Bowl in San Francisco. Drake May and the Patriots. Goodness. Doesn't really feel like they were down long enough. And they're back on top. The Patriots headed to the Super Bowl. And the Seattle Seahawks, Sam Darnold,

got it done. Just like everybody had at the beginning of the season. I don't know if you saw the thing circling this morning. There's a graphic from before the season where every quarterback from every team was walking towards the giant Super Bowl trophy. It was an artistic rendition. And the two quarterbacks closest to the Super Bowl at the very front of this graphic in September, Drake May and Sam Darnel standing next to each other. What's ironic about that is you see that and you see it as like, oh, they were the closest.

But really from the from the photograph, they were the furthest from, like Mahomes was in the foreground. But the borough. To the trophy. Sure, sure. But I'm just saying like when they made it, they're like, just throw the. We should have. You look at everyone else around them.

It's like, oh, it's the jets. It's like all the big teams. You know, it was Sequan Barkley, I think, was the closest, you know, the Super Bowl champ this year. And they're way over there teensy taincy. Yeah, I mean, they, we should have seen the whole Pope narrative coming. Right. I mean, this is a third time that when there's a new pope, the Seahawks go to the Super Bowl.

And Minnesota. officially made the wrong decision. They officially made the wrong decision. And everyone's, you know, the great meme, the great nine meme in the locker room. This is what you're stuck with now. And Sam Darnold, you know, earn everybody's respect. Yeah.

Because when the pressure was on, I mean, last year in the playoffs, he didn't produce. He had a terrible game. This year, the opposite. Yeah, he just had one of the highest pass ratings ever in a conference championship game has played very well, looks the part.

And he's doing this through an injury. So he's toughing it out as well. And now is the first quarterback to make a Super Bowl from his draft class that included Josh Allen and Lamar and Baker and Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen, yeah. No, it's an incredible accomplishment.

We'll talk about those games momentarily, but first. Oh, oh. We didn't actually have the chance to make this announcement on the show yet. But I promise this will be the only time we talk about it. Because they're almost gone already. We had talked to the foot clan. We had told them we were working on some special fantasy footballers trading cards. We worked with Leaf to manufacture them and we released them on Thursday. I think after we had recorded the main show. Some dark day. Well, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. Jason's in me. He's having

major physical troubles because of these. But we released 1,000 limited edition sets that include they're all hand-signed autographs. They're pretty cool cards. We had talked about doing this for a while. We released 1,000 of them on Thursday. As of this moment of this recording, which is Monday, there are 368 sets remaining of the 1,000. So this will be the only time we mention it. Every set comes with all four cards. One of them will be a limited edition. gold numbered version of the card. So if you want to be on the hunt for the... Yeah, we're all waiting for it.

I want to know who gets the number 55... 55 out of 249 golden triple auto. That's what I want to know. There can be only one. We didn't pull it. It's out there at random. We did pull it for a minute. We were like, oh, we got to hold on to that, right?

We wanted to see it. And then we're like, this is not fair. Somebody has to be able to get this. But just go to shopballers.com. if you want to get on on that. Or alternatively, if you want to do me a favor and not buy them, because I'm sick of signing these things. Have we not had this conversation?

No, I don't think so. I could sign a million things a day and it would just be pleasant to me. Mike, how about you? I wouldn't call it pleasant, but not a problem. Like a smooth, cathartic. I think I just get in the group signing stuff. My signature is awesome. You know, your guys are just squiggles.

And mine takes a while, takes energy and effort. Yeah. It's a project. It takes muscles in the hand. Yeah, you are the one that's behind the most. And you're the one that takes the longest to sign anything. I'm coming in an early stand. And I didn't know this was going to be a real roadblock for us.

But you're the bottleneet. You're a weird ambidextrious. Right. My strong hand is my right hand. That's okay. Problem solved. But I write and eat with my left. Problem solved.

You're sweet. Yeah, it is. I'm sited with my weak hand. Like the hand of the arm that's getting all the... It's not our fault, though. A man who understands that your weekend doesn't have like a Mossimo autograph that takes 50 years. I'm building up strength. I've got the little grips I'm using at night.

It's good. It says Jason Randall Moore, the host of the show, number 11. Yeah. No, he's working hard for it. I'm ahead of Mike right now. That is true. I don't know if you were aware of it. that. I was not. He worked his way ahead all day long today.

Shotballers.com. The final 368 sets available over there and then they'll be gone. And Jason, you won't have to sign anymore. So, thanks. Let's talk about those games. New England, 10. Denver 7. Denver scored seven points on the second drive of the game. Great pass by Stidham. Seemed like they were on their way. Great drive. Yes. had some third down conversions on that drive. Ends up, that's all the points you get. That's all the points they scored.

They did not score again. I kind of give the New England touchdown to Stidham. Okay. Because. Well, actually, if they didn't blow the whistle, it definitely would have been directly a defensive touchdown. And it was an incredibly boneheaded play. You're like, oh, after the second drive where it looked like,

Hey, Jay Stiddy. He's looking cool, composed. And then you have the turnover players where it was, this is a man who has not taken enough reps during the season for this moment, clutches, keeps backing up, keeps backing up. Infinite backup. And instead of just taking, the easy thing, just curl up, just get hit. Yeah.

It's fine. Put the ball away. Your defense is great. Yeah. The Patriots to that point have done nothing offensively. I don't even know if they had crossed the halfway point before that fumble. happen. He also could have just thrown it away like 12 times. Yes, but I'm saying once you, he chose to pump and double clutch it because he wanted to extend the play. After that,

you just, no, you got to eat it, but he unfortunately made a terrible decision. And that was the game. It does. It does. Yeah, because winter, winter descended in the second half of that game. It really seems like, you know, I know that the Broncos and we talked about it before the weekend, like Bo Nix. Right. wasn't really the star of the Broncos. The defense is the star of the Broncos, and they should be able to get it done. But it does seem like with how close this game was,

the poor weather conditions, the great defenses, if Bonix was there, they probably win. I think so too. And I think, you know, in the moment, I didn't like the decision to go forward on fork down when you're up seven points, when you have a chance to put points on the board with that defense at home with that crowd,

but hindsight's 20-20. How big is Stid them? I'm looking this up. I believe... He's 6.3215. You needed a yard. Just QB sneak it. That's plenty big for a yard.

I hate... I was team go for it. I thought the play call was where you're booting him out. It's cut the field in half. I hate that. I hate that on fourth down. Yeah, and they never got on the board again. The game turned into a snowball in the second half.

It was crazy to see the time lapse from the first and second quarter to the where we were in the fourth quarter. Drake May. Had another fresh snow dome battle on our hands this morning. Drake May going to the Super Bowl with 86 yards, baby. That's fine. That's fine. It's football.

It is. It's football. We have a difference of opinion on the snow game. I mean, some people like it. Some people don't. It seems about 50-50. 47% of his passes completed for 86 yards. Sometimes you win them dirty.

Sometimes you don't. One of these teams was going to win with bad numbers. That's what was going to happen in this game. New England headed back to the Super Bowl. You know, it seems like anybody that is a fan of any team that wins doesn't want to be criticized in any way. New England, they haven't won a lot of games against good opponents, but they got through.

They're beating good defenses and they're in the Super Bowl. They're beating good defenses, yeah. I mean, I would say that they're very fairly the underdog. of the Super Bowl. Yes, that is fine. I mean, I think that they're, they're four and a half points. The Seahawks are a more complete team.

Yes. Rable's a great coach. He will have a game plan. They will not go in there and get, I don't think they're going to get completely boat race, but it's a repeat, right? We saw Seattle have a Super Bowl stolen from them by New England at the end.

On an interception, they get to repeat it in a couple of weeks. Seattle with a complete performance to stay ahead of Los Angeles, 31, 27, not in the snow. Both quarterbacks played well. Really just came down to a couple of plays in this game.

A fourth down stop around the goal line for the Rams chance to go ahead. I was shocked that they didn't pull it off, to be honest, when they were down there, but the Seattle defense is outstanding. Four and a half point favorites in the Super Bowl, Seattle. It's good. For as much fun as it would be to have Jert Stidham going to the Super Bowl,

this is of the options this is the game I think that it's the game I wanted so is Buffalo still is Buffalo still in it or? No no they lost I don't think they're allowed to win Super Bowls so they just bowed out early yeah this should be fun we got some coaching news the Ravens hired Jesse Minter we didn't get to talk about that

on this show no I guess the new head coach of the Ravens former Chargers DC, Jesse Minter. Okay. Yep. Okay. Steelers hired Mike McCarthy. Oh, man.

Oh, this is so good. She's a Pittsburgh guy. He's a Pittsburgh guy. He's a Pittsburgh guy. Oh, yeah. It's so funny, I know it's been making the rounds on X, but if you look at Mike Tomlin and Mike McCarthy and John Harbaugh, they all are basically identical when it comes to,

their age, their seasons played, their win percentage, their times winning a division, their playoff appearances, their Super Bowls, they've all got one. And Mike McCarthy is universally laughed at. And the other guys are like, these are great coaches. Yeah, I'm probably, he's on his third job. I'm embarrassingly not as anti-McCarthy in general. I don't think I am. I thought he did a good job in Dallas.

I do. His offense was great. I thought he did a good job. He doesn't control Jerry Jones. There are certain organizations where, we just talked about this with Cleveland. Cleveland, you made an amazing point because we were saying, nobody wants to go to Cleveland

and take this job now, right? So nobody wants to go there. But they had Kevin Stefansky. But if Kevin Stefansky was on the open market and hadn't been their coach, he would pass on an interview. Right. And they had the guy.

He would not even. That's a funny thought experiments. Yeah. He'd be like, I wouldn't go there. He's like, no, there's been on some withdrawals of interviews. Do they have regrets right now? Like, ah, shoot. I mean, nobody wants to.

They don't care. As a Cardinals fan. The clowns running that show don't care. It feels really great to have Cleveland exist. It's helpful for us. Yeah, it's like all the coaches aren't bowing out of our job only. They're also bowing out of the Cleveland job. That feels good.

So Mike McCarthy takes over in Pittsburgh. there you go. Maybe that means that Rogers will come back and play one more year under his former coach. I don't know. I thought they left on such bad terms back in Green Bay. I know, Andy, you were saying that it was reported that this makes more likely that they come back, but I don't remember. I think familiarity. Like, I don't think Rogers wants to go and deal with one more year for a head coach that's just like a random. Right.

I think, so whatever that means. I don't know if they want him back. They shouldn't. He's not a pro baller like Shadour. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Shedur Sanders. What is the pro bowl, man?

The pro ball is D. I mean, this is flag football now, right? Which, that's fine. No, no, no. I'm saying it's fine. Do whatever because no one really cares. I was hoping I would care about the flag football, but I still don't, I don't watch.

It's just what is dead is other than contractually, because these guys put it in their contract of like, if you make the Pro Bowl, we'll give you $250,000. It means nothing. It means nothing. You mean 1,400 passing yards and 7 passing touchdowns? A 7 to 10 pass to, or touchdown to interception ratio? Yes, that is what I'm talking about.

And like it was an accolade at one point. It no longer is. For those you don't know, Shador was named as a replacement pro bowler. So he will be at the Pro Bowl. Like the Snoop Huntley, that was fun to do the jokes, right? The furry, you're like, hey, every time, because you never talk about Snoop Huntley, right? Well, because Snoop had two touchdowns and three picks. That was his total passing yardage.

Whenever his name came up, he'd be like, you got to do the bit. Like, oh, sweet. Okay, guys, that's Pro Bowlers, Snoop Huntley. Ha, ha, ha, we all chalk. Which now is the case for Shadoor. And now it's just, now we're done. The bit is dead. Stavansky's only pro bowl quarterback in all of his years with the Browns was Chedur Sanders.

I mean, wow. Goodness gracious. I mean, it's an insult to anyone making a Pro Bowl. Yes. He was objectively bad. And I wanted him to be good. But, I mean, his every metric you can look at is. Yeah, Shadour had plays and he had drives and he had games that were okay.

But in totality, how you. you would define an it's an all-star that's what I was going to say. This is an NBA all-star. Yeah, like Devin,

Devin Booker's sitting here can't get into one of these things and should do as an all-star. Mike McDaniels named the offensive coordinator for the Chargers and I am excited about that. Fantasy football loves it. And Hampton, Herbert,

Lad, hopefully they could all get it going there. Jonathan Gannon, not our problem anymore. He's the Packers' problem. defensive coordinator in Green Bay. Except you know it's going to work. They, oh, it'll work fine.

He's going to get the fire in their belly. Well, booh, boo, is it like, I don't know when Parsons will be ready, but it's like, it was Parsons.

They lost. Parsons stays healthy. No one's fired from there. Well, no, they lost Haifley to Miami to become the head coach. But I'm saying like, I'm saying like,

no matter who's coming into here, either Parsons is healthy or he's not. Yep. And if he's healthy, You're a great defensive coordinator. Well, and he was in Philadelphia. Yeah, I think Jonathan. They wanted him out.

Well, they wanted him out because Philadelphia has no patience or appreciation, but they went to the Super Bowl with him, is all I'm saying. Yes. And the players, to a man, everyone loves Jonathan Gannon. Like the actual players of the Cardinals, we didn't really love him, but he was beloved in the locker. Just like the new offensive coordinator of Detroit. the blobfish.

Oh, Drew Petsing, yeah. The Dolphins promoted Bobby Sloick to offensive coordinator. Okay. That one doesn't excite me at all. Quinn Neuers and Bobby Sloick, are we rebuilding in Miami? Feels that way.

You got to tear it down to build it back up. This is like not good for A-Chin. Not good for A-Chin, man. Slowick was there for... It was Houston. Yeah, yeah, but was that for Stroud's rookie year? Yes. Yes. It was rookie year. Sloak was all the rage. It was him and Ben Johnson were the two young, hot names.

Yes. And then it all collapsed. What a weird situation. After that. And then Sloak went to, you know, become... Of Stroud? Looking like he's a dirty diaper. Strad's a rookie year. You're like, here it is. Here is. This guy's going to be the next great quarterback. Sloick. Here it is. The next great offensive mind. Hold on one more. year. Let's run it back. Let's run it back, guys. And then it's just been bad. Like, what in the world happened there? I do not know. But that is all we got by way of news this morning. We want to get into the truth. Help your fantasy teams out as we look back on 2025. Take a break and jump right in. You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the True.

Can't handle it. Not even, you can't even handle some of it. Mm-mm. Jason. Certainly not all of it. We are back into the running back position today. If you wanted to hear the first and second part of the quarterback truth episodes, we did those on previous shows.

You can just click back on those. We did the running back part one. We're going to get kind of through the next group, which is kind of a lot of interesting names. Running back stayed healthy. We talked about that on the. the last episode, relatively healthy, had 17 different running backs, top of thousand yards rushing this season. That's the most since 2006.

That's 20 years or 19 years. So, you know, we have a, we also had a lot of running back twos that people picked late in drafts that ended up being like very valuable, whether it was ETN who had a really low draft spot. Jason, you were, you know, pretty sure he was going to be the guy over Bigsby. They traded Bigsby, making it. Even more ETIN's backfield, he was the running back 10 in fantasy finish, but drafted at 31.

But like Giovante, Swift, Warren was one of those later round guys. Kenneth Gainwell, so like both the Steeler running backs. So a lot of these names we'll talk about on today's show. A lot of interesting running backs and what the truth is about them. I had somebody asked me the question. because we talked about Gentie on the last show and I just want to throw this out there real quick but somebody had been just asking

like is Genty is that the top running back for you in Dynasty from last year's class? Is it still Genty to you? Some of the injuries I think have forced it to be Genty. Is it Gentile over Hampton to you? With McDaniel coming in and the like

offensive line being healthy? Those guys are very, very, very close. And then the- Henderson. And Henderson's the other question, yeah. Yeah, I believe it's still Gentie. Oh, man, that's brutal.

Yeah, I think that's a tough one because that is all the emotions of like, what the franchises have been, what the offensive line looks like, what the quarterback looks like. We don't have any, we don't have our 2026 rankings yet. I apologize.

We should get on that. But, like, just real quick off the cuff, I feel like, who would you take first in a redraft right now? Hampton or Ashton Gentie? I would take Hampton. And in the world of running backs for dynasty, I don't know if I... I feel like that makes a statement.

I don't know if I push comes to shove would be able to pull the trigger on Hampton or Genty. I think that's a really tough one. You're going to have a new head coach, a new quarterback. Yeah. In Las Vegas. We all saw kind of the transformation for New York this year, right? You get a new quarterback, invigorates the team.

All of a sudden, Cam Scataboo. by the way, he's in the conversation, too. Not above those guys probably, but he'll be back. I just think it's interesting how quick a franchise can change. We thought it might happen last year with Gino. Gino now has the worst storyline you've ever heard. Gino is

now, you were so bad that when another team got rid of you, the team you went to gets the number one pick and the team you left went to the Super Bowl. You get the one and maybe the 32. Oh, man. That's how Gino was. Oh.

and and and and we thought some people thought i don't know if we thought it but i think some people thought it wasn't much of a difference why'd you you were going to pay gino he didn't want to stay you went and you settle on darnold that's a big difference i mean a lot of people thought this was a huge mistake for the seahawks i mean you got to really hand it to the seahawks general manager. I mean, the deafness, the shrewdness, the correctness of these transactions

were amazing. I mean, they have built this team. Getting rid of MECAF and having that be a net benefit for your team. Switching to Darnel. Building the defense. Yeah. It's funny because you... Holding Ken Walker back

so strategically. So in the playoffs, you could unleash him once you tore Charbonnet's 8th. trading for Shaheed. Yeah. It is interesting, though, free agent spending this offseason, the number one most contracts in money given out, the New England Patriots, and the Seahawks were the number four. So these two teams went out and spent some big money on free agency, and lo and behold,

it worked. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, let's get into the truth. On the last episode, we talked about Christian McCaffrey, John the Taylor, Beezon. on Gibbs, H.N, Cook, Henry, Chase Brown, Kyron Williams, and ETN, the aforementioned ETN. At number 11, Javante Williams.

I'm so, I'm so just happy for Javante Williams that we're having this conversation at this time of the show. The truth of Javante Williams before this year. Thought it was never going to happen. No, I mean, this was a ninth round, late ninth round pick and fantasy, RB 39 off the board, 25 years old still. I was going to say the age is what's shocking. I mean, you know who could have used him?

With the Denver Broncos? Denver Broncos. Well, I mean, they had a bad beat with Dobbins. If you have Dobbins and Harvey, that's a solid combo. 25.7 years old, Jason, consistency in the second half of 16, 11 in the first half. That's really where he shined. Yeah, he was better in the first half. It was mostly touchdowns, really was the difference.

He was extremely- lamb during that time? Extremely hot. A couple weeks. You know, the first half of their season on getting a, into the end zone. I believe in the first eight weeks he was basically on pace for 17 touchdowns.

After that point, it was just goal line work that was missing, but he was pretty consistent for what he was. The question now becomes, you know, is he a cowboy? Are they going to commit to him going forward? He is young. He looked good.

I'm confident that he will be back in a big part of their offense. It's the easiest path forward for them, a team that needs to rebuild the defense every which way and make sure that that's not the worst in history again. Should. Please don't.

It really seemed like RICO would be back last year or for this past season. He was coming off of a thousand yards on the ground and would not be expensive, but they moved on. Well, I got even, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, Giovante was the RB-5 in the first eight weeks of the season. You talked about it. He was good at getting into the end zone, very productive, really throughout the entire season. So it was impressive.

He had 13% great games, so he wasn't winning you weeks very often. But 56% good games, 19% bus games, pretty consistent, 1,200 yards rushing. And he missed the final week of the year. He just got his job done. However, well, 51 targets turning into 137 receiving yards is not good. That's impressive. To be that low? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, he's willing to stand there and catch that thing behind the line of scrimmage. Fall forward. Yeah, it's funny. You do run. I mean, Chuba was the famous case last year, Chuba Hubbard. Whereas, like, you are involved in the passing game, but like you aren't. But you're getting nothing done.

doing much with it. Cowboys with Giovante and George are going to be interesting how free agency shakes out in what month and a half or something? Yeah, it'll be here before you know it. And the draft, I mean, we're looking at the and I know this will get previewed

on the Dynasty show that comes out on Wednesday. Mm-hmm. Right now, Daniel Jeremiah, he had his first mock draft. And the first mock draft had seven of 32 players that are fantasy relevant. So you're talking running backs, wide receivers, tight ends, and quarterbacks. If you play Dynasty, do not read Jeremiah Love's mock draft.

Daniel Jeremiah, yeah, yeah. Jeremiah Love. Jeremy Love, he wrote up his own mock draft. He actually went number one. Because the landing spots would make you puke. No, it does feel like a defensive heavy draft. And specifically how his mock landed. If that were to happen in real life, you would be talking about a very...

Better have the 101. Underwhelming rookie draft. Yep. Yeah, I mean, you know some guys are going to emerge and outside the first round and all that stuff, but it was a little bit, a little bit heavy on the defensive players, the offensive linemen.

At number 12, Josh Jacobs, guys. Number three inconsistency in the first half of the year. So finished at 12 overall, but number three inconsistency in the first half, 10 inconsistency overall, and 22nd in the second half of the season, dealt with the injury. Do you forgive?

Like we know that Jacobs, he didn't miss any time, right? He missed one game. Yeah, he missed week. But he played through injury frequently, which kind of makes the consistency chart for him. Yeah, so we may be a little more tricky. It does make it a little bit more tricky. This was very injury related.

We all knew it. We saw it on the field and he had games. But the thing is, is these also hurt you in fantasy. I played him for some of these games where you're talking about, okay, he gets 22% of the snaps, 28% of the snaps, 39% of the snaps in three different games, all in the second half of the year when he's,

because of these injuries, the knee issue that he was dealing with, it's really upsetting to me personally because you look at how good he was in the first half. He was great. And who does it remind you of who was so good in the first half and then kind of faltered down the stretch? What, Jonathan Taylor?

Yeah. And those are my two guys. Gotta get hot at the right time. I know and I got cold at the right time. I didn't win the championship. Mike did. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh. 20% great games, 67% good games. That's awesome. 20% bust games. Josh Jacobs last year, very similar numbers. A few less bust games playing through the injury this year. Definitely hurt people. The truth for Josh Jacobs is he is a dominant force, a core part of this offense.

The fact that he does. did up until he got injured. Exactly what he was doing the year prior means I will be projecting him to do more great things next year. Injuries are just part of the game. He's a tough guy. He tried to play through it and probably to his and his team's detriment. Does that make him a tough guy?

Yeah. If you try to play through injury, but you look terrible. But you hurt your team? Well, what's funny is he didn't. Are you a tough guy? Yeah, you are. That's the way the tough guys work. We don't care how it.

benefits or doesn't benefit you is just did you do it? I mean, there is no try. No, I mean, that's what I'm doing. He did not do. It's like when Mac Jones, you know, he skipped. Oh my God. He skipped that life-saving surgery because he didn't need it. When you're talking toughness, you can't bring Mac Jones up because everyone else just looks like a coward compared to him.

Compared to the greatness of Mac Jones. Josh Jacobs finished at 10 inconsistency 12 overall, Jason, better or worse next year? better on the course of the season because of what happened at the end of the year. I'm going to say if he plays 17 games next year, it'll definitely be better than this season. Well, we're going to talk about Ashton Jenty now. He managed, and I feel like this is an accomplishment. I really do.

It is. To finish at 13 at the running back position for the team that had no quarterback play, worse than no quarterback, actively detrimental quarterback play. Right. who has no offensive line who Jacobs would call it tough ends up with the

number one I mean remember Jacobs had a really down year for this team and everybody doubted him and he got paid by Green Bay and was great again Genty was up against it

still ends up at 13 now his consistency was 21 and that is much more indicative of how he felt to have him on your team and it didn't really change it wasn't like like in the first half of the year

he was 18 and consistency 24 in the second half of the year. He definitely felt like a low-in RB2 or at RB3 more often than he felt like an RB1. He hurt you a lot. And this wasn't due to injury. It was do-do-do-do offense. It was due-do.

It was due to the do-do. It was a situation where every time you put them in your lineup, you could go out there and not receive five fantasy points. That was always in the range of outcomes for him. I'm looking at this 5.9, 6.3, 3.9, 6.4, 9.1, 4.3, 6.2. Can't have it. But then week 16, a crucial playoff game, number one overall in the week.

August Houston. And that's, dude, that was off of two games in a row where people were legitimately benching him. Yeah. Saying like, toughest matchup that you could have hasn't scored. Those two weeks in a row were basically a combined 10 fantasy points. I would not have blamed anyone for doing it. Dead last. Number one.

Dead last and points scored, the Raiders were, and offensive line rank. The cool thing about Gentia is that that is within the realm of possibilities on the worst team and the worst situation. He's a breakaway guy. He's a home run hitter. He can go make that monstrous play and defy the odds of your team's momentum, and that's nice. I mean, I like that built into, I like 22-year-old running back. Sure. Yeah.

A young running back in the worst possible situation who finishes as the running back 13, you go, okay, well, next year, will they have the number one worst offensive line in the league? It's possible, but they did this year. Maybe they're the 25th worst, and that's a big upgrade for him. Same with the office. It's like, it feels like his floor, honestly, it kind of reminds like you look at JSN

and the situation that he was in, you know, bad quarterback play, but kind of had a surprising end to his rookie year. and then the situation just got better. I think the situation can get to a place this next offseason where Gentie has that top five range of outcome at the position. Well, didn't it take Jason in two years? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

This was, Genti was the sixth most targets for a rookie over the last decade, so the targets really helped. He is a good player. If you watch him play, like he's breaking tackles. He's doing incredible things. but the ADP to be okay with the ADP where I think he's going to land you have to see I would have to see big improvements in the line

Well he will be much lower than where he went this year That is the comforting thing no matter what Like he's not going in he's not going at RB6 do you think No no he won't but I bet he goes in the second round Okay So that'll be a fun discussion to have Yeah In like five minutes whenever the new season starts

Jason. Sequin Barclay finished at 14. Consistency rank 16. Not exactly what you want from the fourth overall pick in the draft at the RB2. 12th and consistency in the first half, 20th in the second half, 1100 yards and 7 touchdowns. 13% great games. Let me give you a reminder. Last year in Philadelphia, 44% great games. If you don't know what we're talking about, a great game for a fantasy running back. we define it as more than, wait, where's the number? Is it 21? More than 21 fantasy points.

Good is 12 or more. That means that Saquan was sitting at 50% good games. Yeah, I mean, last year it was 75%. That's why there was, you know, debate at the top of drafts this year, whether Sequin, you know, should be even the number one pick. But you're an older running back coming off of a massive workload. It's very, very difficult. I know. I know. Yeah, this is a Christian McCaffrey reality.

When you are close to 30 and you make a deep playoff run, Sequin went to the Super Bowl and had a ton of work on his body. It wasn't like he was bad this year or injured this year. It was just appropriate variance. Yes. Yeah, I mean, this. He was bad for the fourth overall pick. Very bad for that. He was a, he was on the overall reality. show. Do you remember this? Yes, I do. He was on the overreaction show, and the overreaction was don't, don't react to his dominance and think that it's repeatable. Because it's really not. And, you know, all the accolades and the, the, the possibilities for, you know, Christian McCaffrey, the fact that he bounced back this year. Show me two in a row. You know what I mean? Like, that's really hard to do. We don't really know what the variance numbers would have been for McCaffrey in those three other seasons because he was just out injured.

but I don't, you know, it's just hard. You have, he had one touchdown inside the five. Do you realize this? That's Sequin. Sequin. It's not like they didn't want him to do all this stuff. It's just Lane Johnson got hurt and the offense was worse. Well, and a lot of that was, I mean, last year was, there was, I think, like a home run play every single game.

Well, you're dead on the money, Mike. 17, 20 plus yard runs last year. You know how many he had this year? So he had 17? 17. So it's one per game. Wow. I mean, I doubt it.

was spread that way, but yeah. Right, right, right. Equivalent to one per game. So what did he hit this year? I don't know, like six? Lower. Oh, four? Four.

Yeah. You go from 17 to four? That'll hurt your efficiency and your numbers. James Winston, Riley, Liner, Jake Browning, Josh Johnson, Agumbo Wallai, Phil Mafa, Elijah Moore, Greg Dorch, A.J. Barner. All those names had as many rushing touchdowns inside the five is Sequel and Barkley. So when you talk about things that...

That feels like malpractice. Yeah, and I think, you know, obviously if he had been injured and out for the year, that's worse than if he had just been the RB 14 when you expected the RB2. But in some ways, it was really difficult for fantasy managers to manage this situation because you thought you had a game breaker and instead you had more of a stabilizer. Yeah, and I think a lot of it was on Saquan Barkley. not his fault necessarily, but it wasn't just the team and the situation around him. He had 13 carries inside the five. He had one touchdown inside the five.

That's a, that's a really bad success rate. I forgot to compliment you. You're so smart that you didn't root for Denver. Right. I mean, that was genius. Yep, I try to let everybody know how the world works. Because they didn't win. Right.

So you can't root for them. No. DeAndre Swift at 15. Wow, he's 27 years old now. DeAndre Swift came in at 15. Consistency was better than that. 12. First half number eight, second half, 17.

13% great. 56% good. 13% bust. It's kind of like saying he was Sequin. This year, him and Saquan were back to back, and he was more consistent than Sequin was. And that is speaking to our... I mean, look, this is just DeAndre Swift.

being D'Andre Swift. It's what he has done every year of his career. He's been a running back two in fantasy. He can't, he's not a running back one. He's not good enough. But he is not going to be, you know, outside the, he will not, he will not not be a running back two. It's just what he is.

He's the running back 18, 19, 22, 23, 19, and 14 now. Incredible. But for where you drafted him, I mean, considering that he was almost the same outcome as Sequin Barclay certainly was the you know he would have been the better draft pick to make between the two guys and I also think that as the season went along I know that some of the consistency scores got worse for him he had I think he had a game where he got banged up in and missed some time in

but I feel like the team the bears started figuring out how to use him a little bit better I think so yeah and so it'll just be interesting. Is he under contract for next year? Believe so? I think he's he has a lifetimer. The bag they gave him was very large. So this is his final year, and he's at 8.8 million for a cab.

I mean, he'll be on the team. And he will be a running back too. Yeah, probably. I will say this. Monongai looked really good. I don't think he's going to be everything there, obviously. They're always going to have a compliment to him. We didn't talk about this one aspect that stood out to me in the Rams game, though. the future of

because I think of Manangai and Swift and then you think of Blake Corum and Kyron Williams and I watched Blake Corum looked like

the better running back to me in that game which he's done multiple times this year I just don't know what the future of that back field is going to look like

right yeah Kyron's place in fantasy in his ADP did you think Corum looked better honestly

because of the numbers I'm frequently I'm accrediting I'm accrediting I'm accrediting the production to the wrong guy. I still think that Kyron is overall the better player.

But next year next year the debate will be fair of do you take a couple round discount? Because Goran will be much behind. He'll be a, no, like he'll be a like a

seventh or an eighth round pick, I would think, just based off of how what happens to the running backs? It's like, whereas Kyron? Is Karin in the third? so then that'll be a fun off-season discussion. Yeah, yeah, I feel like there's a, there's more like tactician to Chiron, but there's some more explosiveness and burst to quorum at this point.

Sorry, yeah, that was a bit of a detour, but we didn't bring up the quorum thing from the game. Let's move forward here. We'll take a break, talk through a few more names before we let you go. I don't know if you guys got Super Bowl predictions yet. Are you both on the Seattle side? We had Seattle winning coming into the playoffs this year. Yeah, did anyone else in the...

Jeremy, you did? Yes, sir. All right. We win. Who were they playing? I had Seattle and Buffalo. Yeah, it doesn't matter. No one had Patriots.

Oh, one of us did. Oh, did you? Yeah, buddy. Josh has Patriots winning. Oh, all right. So I guess we haven't won yet, Mike. Who was your... I had the Bears.

Ah. And you guys had Jacksonville. Both of you? Yep. In your little like codependent brackets. More correct brackets than yours. Well said, Mike. Is that true?

Probably. Do you have Seattle in? No. Then you're out. I had the Rams. All right. Back in a minute. No, if you ask the internet, Mike, I have,

I'm like anti-Seattle or something. I don't know what I said. Remember I was anti-Patriots last week and now I'm anti-Cyattle? I don't know who I'm anti-I. You're anti-everybody. which also means you're pro everybody exactly exactly

it just depends what thing I say at what moment I can tell you this nobody has debated that I'm pro Cardinals yes we all know where we're staying there let's talk Jalen Warren Kenneth Gainwell what in the world

was the truth of the Steelers running back room this year because I mean the truth is it was a very good backfield it just kind of shifted halfway through the year. I mean, you look at the game log. It shifted.

You look at the game log for these two players. Who would you have rather have? Overall. Overall. Overall, Warren. Warren was a steal. He was brought up before the season. A favorite, Mike.

I know you brought him up a lot. Gainwell undrafted completely. Gainwell, you know, respectfully. was kind of this player that seemed like, it's one of the reasons like Jason liked Caleb. Yeah. It's because he didn't look at Gainwell as somebody that would be.

Well, he seemed redundant to Jalen Warren. I mean, like it's a similar skill set. They ended up needing a redundancy. Yeah, they did, but it's like, okay, common thought process would be we have a, you know, you have your, if you want your thunder and your lightning, Caleb Johnson's the big guy who's going to move the pile scores and touchdowns,

and then Warren is this in between 20s. He's your pass catcher. And that's really how the season started. We had Aaron Rogers just hoisting accolades on Jalen Warren. Unfortunately, gets hurt in week four. So, I mean, you misses week four. Bounces back, has some really strong games. And then I don't know what happened in practice

or maybe just Kenneth Gamow got really hot in week 11 against the Bengals. And they said, oh, perhaps. we should do this more because from there on out, it was really, Gainwell was the one you would rather have. It was a combination of two things. It was Kenneth Gainwell was playing outstanding football. And he became maybe their best offensive weapon down the stretch. But the other part of it is this is Aaron Rogers saying who he wants on the field to catch passes. He was literally their leading pass catcher on the season, and it wasn't even close. He had 73 receptions. D.K.K. McKaff had 59.

I mean, yeah, it was a gross offense altogether, but this was Aaron Rogers wanting his checkdown out there. Now, it was a one-year sub-2 million dollar deal. I don't know if Kenneth Gainwell is back here on this team. We don't know if Aaron Rogers is back on the team. They're paying Gainwell under $2 million. Yeah. And he's out there being your leading receiver. and the guy you gave a bajillion dollars to.

He had six. Come on, man. He had six top 12 weeks. Gainwell, he was so good down the stretch. From week 11 on. Yeah, I mean, he helped people win off of the waiver wires. Kyle says he feels like an old school Theoretic. Yeah, he did.

Theoretic was, you remember the year with Stafford where he was just a pass catcher. 41% good games from Kenny G. 50% good games from Warren. Only 6% great from Warren. and he didn't have the explosive games. Gamewell did. Gainwell had 18% great games. This one will also be interesting of what do this,

because Warren's under contract. He was voted the Steelers' most valuable player by the teammates. Do you realize that? It's been T.J. Watt five of the last six years. He was elected by the teammates the most valuable player on the team. I wonder if he will be back. Yeah, without Tomlin and Rogers, that would be. It's going to be different.

Yeah. Crazy. I mean, the, that will all have to shake out. But Jalen Warren is, I think Jalen Warren will be very usable and interesting next year. How about Caleb?

I mean, if Gainwell is gone, there is a chance. But I don't know how good the chance is. Rico Dowdle is 17, Mike. Yeah, yeah. He was the beginning of the year of Mike from week five through nine at least. Just a little temporary run here for Dowdell.

He did end up over a thousand to get. 27 years old, older, and consistency of 24. I'm sorry no one wants you, Rico. And nobody doesn't. I'm sorry. He really, he really, I'm on your team. Wasn't great from week 10 on. No, he was not.

He just, like it all slowed down. I don't know if it was just the split and he didn't get going very often. I don't know if it was the matchups. It doesn't seem like they were that rough. He also played through groin injuries. Yes. Remember? He had the, he had the week.

Weak were both groins. Yes. Just removed him. Just removed his groin. He said he wants to leave if he can't be the guy. Yeah, he wants to go somewhere and be the guy. And you're not going to find any team to make you the guy. Yeah, you think, Rico, I mean, you do get a little bit of a picture of like maybe what happened in Dallas.

Because maybe Dallas said, we do want you back, but we're going to put you in a committee. And maybe he said, I don't want to be in a committee. And then he had to sign a committee contracting Carolina and then became the guy. And then he came. And then they put Giovante in a non-committee. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. But just, you know, he was lower inconsistency than he was at fantasy finish because he had those three magma weeks, really, five, six and nine.

He has good games, 29% 18% great, 35% bust. He was much better at home. Three 30-point games from week five through nine. It was insane. That was, do you cash in on Rico? Do you not cash in on Rico in the trade market? And if you cashed in too early, you missed a couple big games. But then you probably could have cashed in.

in from week nine. Yeah, and you should have. He wasn't great down the stretch for fantasy or really in real life either. So going forward, I think that he's not going to get the contract

he wants or the opportunity he wants. He's a good player. He can move the pile. He can break a tackle. But I don't think he's going to be very relevant for fantasy. So hopefully if you're in a dynasty league or anything future, you did cash in. I I don't think he's a panther next year.

Probably not. More interesting names, though, guys. Travion Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson. Travion is 23 years old. Remondry is 27. Travon ended at 18, consistency rank of 28. Here's where you're going to get annoyed. Remondry was 25.

Consistency rank of 22. In the second half of the year, these two guys, became the lynchpins of the offense. Yeah. And Trayvon was a consistency of nine. in the second half, number nine, and Ramandre number 11. And Ramandre missed some time. That's when you saw those big, big weeks, Trayvon had back-to-back, running back four overall weeks.

You know, let's play. What a time to be alive. Let's play the scenario out, though. Super Bowl champions, New England Patriots. What's the story for these two guys moving forward? It seems like they're both going to have a role. They will both absolutely have a role. So little Dobbins, R.J. Harvey action.

I hated this past week. week, Henderson had, I believe, four snaps. Yeah. Boy, was that just... He's too small for that weather. Was that a playoff trust? Was that a snowball game thing? That's what I'm saying.

I don't know. I don't know how you can do playoff trust. It wasn't just that game either, wasn't it? It's been known for fumbling his entire career. Well, but we've said this before. Like, Romandre is known for doing the detailed work that gets a lot of praise. I mean, what was the snap count in the first playoff game for New England? Do you have that?

I'm going to go try and pull it up. Go take a look at it because I think it was mostly Remandre then too. Yeah, it has. So the playoff run has been, I'm just saying, like from a trust standpoint it's been a lot of Ramandre. Yeah, I think the playoffs have been Remandre.

What we're going to see going forward is going to be akin. We have previously and oftentimes talked about the Detroit Lions and how that David Montgomery, Jamir Gibbs situation. I wondered if you bring that up, yeah. And that's how I project it for next year. I don't think Remandre is going anywhere or losing necessarily his role.

But what we saw after Henderson had his breakout was that he's still clearly they're more explosive back. And they're going to give both of these guys a ton of work. I think next year you have Trayvion Henderson take more of the work than he had at the end of this last season, but not to the point where he's the guy in the Gibbs category. Exactly. He wasn't drafted as highly as Gibbs was either and doesn't have quite the, I would say, versatility that Gibbs has now.

so he'll have to develop. Maybe the offseason will play a big role. I mean, both guys, both guys showed up. And they're both going to be, you know, Ramandre is under contract. He's got a big boy contract, I think, for like the next two years. So he's not going anywhere.

And Henderson, obviously, is the second round pick. Same. Okay. Did you end up seeing what the, pretty similar? The week one, the carries were similar. but Remandre was much better. Okay.

Yeah, both of them are interesting. They have a role to play on the team. Sometimes that role, I feel like Ramandre's role is less desirable for fantasy most often, and yet it's necessary for the team. And so he just represents this, like, clog, stopping you from getting your sweet, sweet travian points. I'm sure we'll talk about it a lot.

Both of these guys had their games this year. is this true remandre led all running backs and yards per target this year crazy crazy because they kept scheming those where he's like open by 20 yards what is happening on this play wheel route for remandre and he's doing it yeah I'm just looking at game logs a 55 yard reception a 35 year reception a 36 yard reception a 23 yard reception and he did it in the playoffs too which the week week one again he was three for 75 oh I'm

also the shame this week because I bet against for Mondre yeah isn't that perfect it's the long con I got a few more names I'm just going to give you the results Brees was number 19 consistency rank of 27 the Jets I mean Brees is going to find a new home too yeah

someone will pay him and he'll be good so you got K-dubs you got Brees you got E-TN those are the three big offseason and Dowel. And Javanti. And then down a tier, I'd put Giovante and Rico. Jvante and then Rico. R.J. Harvey finished at 21, consistency of 21. He is.

I'll tell you this. I don't think... I don't think he has top 12 career potential. That's my thought of R.J. Harvey. I don't think we're ever going to see the perennial R.B.1 of him. He slots into me as like R.B2 territory for his career. And I know that feels like a, I mean, it is. It's a statement of his entire career, but it's like, something about him just seems okay. Yeah. His advanced analytics on the season, they're just, they're not great. And I think that, I think Dobbins is back. Oh, Dobbins is definitely, yeah. Did you see his quote? Yes. I'm a Bronco. They're thinking two, three year deal.

Yeah. I mean, he is going to be, this will be a one, two punch next year. This, and this will probably one of the ones where it's like, hey, here we have the, you have the timeshare, RJ Harvey is being drafted in front of J.K. Dobbins. I'm probably going to take that J.K. Dobbins dip because people will be out. Yeah, and I think Harvey... Because they want to be in on Harvey. I think Harvey's a good pass catcher. Yeah.

I think he's going to have that role of the Gainwell role, or the Swift, you know, inconsistency. Here's some Harvey numbers for those already yelling at the podcast. Among 55 qualified running backs with 80 plus rush attempts. Go ahead. 51st in percentage of runs stuffed at the line. 52nd in percentage of runs of 10 plus yards. 49th in rush success rate, 48th in yards after contact for attempt.

That's what I saw. I saw a guy pretty darn capable in the passing game. But not a consistent runner. Occasionally a really good runner. but not a consistent runner. Seahawks running backs are 22, 23 on the season. Walker had five more fantasy points on the season than Charbonnet did. Consistency is even worse, 23 and 29.

Walker at 29 inconsistency. That felt right. Walker had five more points with seven fewer touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, you can't really argue with them when they're in the Super Bowl. Nope. Nope. This is remandre in Trevion to a degree. But you also can't argue that Zach Charbonnet is healthy.

He has a torn ACL. I mean, they can't do it anymore. And what we've seen is Kenneth Walker taking over and being dominant. This is a situation where I am fascinated to see. I feel like the Seahawks have to bring Walker back now. They just have to. And they're going to have to actually give him the ball, make him the dude to start next season. I think he'll be extremely valuable for fantasy.

I wonder how much money he's going to want because obviously, depending on that, they could have the choice of bringing in an ETN to fill that role. They could, you know what I mean? Like if Walker, because of his age, is more expensive on the open market and you've got those other five names I just mentioned, I just wouldn't be shocked if this general manager

doesn't look at that aspect of it. Oh, he'll definitely... The thing is, is when you win a Super Bowl, Like you always make the right move afterwards You always just pay afterwards You know the guys that got you there The Joe Flacco You know

Won the Super Bowl and it's just like We gotta keep it together We gotta pay these guys I feel like sometimes you make mistakes When you win And if so if they win I fully expect them to give him a ton of money And bring him back

I mean if you're Walker Just think about being a human being You just if you You went on a playoff run You're getting all the work, so you're really happy about that. You're having success. And if you win a Super Bowl with that team, you're going to want to resign with that team. But Kenneth Walker, go get that shmoney.

Oh, he will do that first. Go get the money first. And if the money comes from Seattle, maybe that's where he's at. On Thursday, we'll talk about the truth of the wide receiver position. So we'll dig in there. And I think I get shamed on Thursday, too. Is that right, Al? I think we're still, we've got to figure it out.

That is correct. What do you mean you've got to figure it out? Well, there's no game. game this week. No, there's no game, but I mean, if anybody, if anybody gets shamed, it's me. Yeah. Thanks, Jared.

That's true. Thanks. Thanks, Jared. You have no one to blame but yourself. That was a real Jason move, huh? Yes, it was. It was a real Tommy Trimble move. Hey, I took a Stidim.

It was a real cold come up move. Which one? Interceptions. More than half an interception. It worked. I thought he could get up over one. I thought it was a shoeing. Did he only throw the one?

Yeah. Like the real egregious one? Yeah. The one at the very end? Yeah. Yeah. No, I thought he could get over 174 combined rushing and passing, and I was a fool. All right, we got to go. This show is over. Shopballers.com if you want a final chance at those limited edition, Fantasy Football. Cards. And we'll be back with another show on Thursday. Goodbye.

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