Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy QBs + Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/15

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Jan 15, 2026. Can you handle the TRUTH?! Get a closer look at the top fantasy football quarterbacks from the 2025 season! Consistency scores and tons more. Get the TRUTH about how these QBs actually impacted fantasy football teams! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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And look, hey, for you guys, there is stuff for losers on fantasy champs.com. You might want to check that out. I'll send you some links, but fantasychamps.com, use that code ballers and save some cash. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in Thursday, January 15th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway, Ducer's Alley, fully staffed today. It's ironic because...

Still deusin after all these years. Well, Al got back from vacation right when the Packers went on their vacation. Oh, did you high-fied everyone? Like at the airport? Where you're like, yeah. You're not ready yet? Let's go to Cabo. I don't want to be here.

Still? Still? Man, you really... I knew what was in store for me when I got here today. And you guys didn't disappoint. No, that was immediate. Yeah. It's just surprising you didn't know it was in store for you before the weekend, though.

That's what we're all real surprised about. That game, you know, we have... It wasn't in store for him until like the final two minutes of the game. He shouldn't have been in store for him at all, whatever happened in that game. It's just we have very passionate Packers and Bears fans in the office. And Jason and I in that channel that whole night, it was just like, we just want this game to be dramatic. That's all. I don't care.

No horse in the race, but I love to watch someone melt. You had a horse in that race. Well, welcome back. Just a dark horse of pain. Watch the world burn. This is how us Cardinal fans deal with things. We just, we're unbiased. We don't care about.

Imagine caring. I was going to say, I'm jealous that he gets to be upset. When's the last time you were like? We get to be upset. We do? Yeah. But all the time. No, but right now of we had, have the Air, by we, I mean, the Arizona Cardinals,

the third overall pick. if you have not heard breaking right before the recording was Oregon quarterback Dante Moore is going back to school which he would have been the odds on favorite for the second pick maybe the first

but either way a top two pick nonetheless where the Arizona Cardinals then don't have to worry about that they just take the best non-quarterback player that they want their pick and now that is destroyed. Makes sense oh by the way we're interviewing Arthur

Smith. And the entire community, the foot clan, I know what you're rooting for. You want to talk about me and Jason rooting for drama in that game. I know what you're rooting for. Everyone wants to see it happen. Unlimited diarrhea. You are rooting for. I mean, I don't even know.

I have planted my flag. I will have wanted Jonathan. Your peace out? Yeah. Yeah, I'm, oh, I'm out. I am O U.T. And I will not be tricked. If Arthur comes, oh, I look. bit of success. It's next year. If Arthur Smith is hired to the Arizona Cardinals, in three years' time, the Arizona Cardinals will be interviewing new head coaches.

I don't care who we hire. In three years time, we're going to be hiring someone new because that's what we do every three years. I think someone could build something here, but not him. Not someone that's going to come here. That guy sucks. If we're going to suck. How does offense look in the playoff game? It looked like it lacked personnel. Big time. No, I look like it lacked any sort of idea of what anyone is doing. If we're going to suck, we might as well have a more entertaining

podcast. Sure. And that's what Arthur Smith would provide. We have... Do you, you want Trey McBride to see the third most targets on the Arizona Cardinals? No, I don't. That's what will happen. Don't hear what I'm not saying. Arthur Smith

sucks for fantasy football. He is, he is a terror taking Bejohn and Drake London and saying, hey guys, why don't you calm down? Let's get more people involved that aren't as good as you. That's, it's infuriating. It would be terrible for fantasy football. But as an actual coach, I don't think he is bad. I don't think he's unintelligent. There are some coaches I go, that guy. No, the truth is, terrible. Emotionless truth is that he is being interviewed by lots of teams for a reason. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's the truth. That's how

He's viewed. Run by cowards. I mean, there's, yeah, we're not going to talk about them anymore. The truth episode, the first one today, top 10 quarterbacks from 2025, looking at the truth at the quarterback position. What happened this year as a whole in terms of scoring trends at the quarterback position and then walking through the top 10 finishers. We look at their fantasy points, but we also look at their consistency scores. How much did they deliver on a week-to-week basis? How much could you count on them?

Just because they finished at number two or three or five? on the quarterback rankings doesn't mean that they were dependable, doesn't mean that they were the lynchpin of fantasy championships. So we're going to take a look at that in detail. And Jason every year puts together these docs with the help of the team in terms of taking a granular approach to how much did they really help you? What is the truth about Drake May? What is the truth about Caleb Williams and others?

So we're looking at that today. We do have the fantasy face off as well. And the Jason More Wheel of Shame will also be on, today's show called playoff shame playoff shame and uh yeah there's there's a lot going on a reminder the dFS pass completely free right now during the NFL playoffs dfsdfass dot com and the community is over at join the foot dot com i didn't know i thought you were going to say something nothing to say uh i would say i believe nico would have hit his over if he didn't get injured no you don't but i am going to say that i know yes you are going to see that i mean you got kind of hit by the

injury that was unfortunate yeah there you go into the news we go news and notes from around the league well it was uh it didn't really matter what the kick what happened with tyler loop because a week later Mike Tomlin lost his job as well or stepped down from his job after 19 years so the Steelers now join the ranks of the Cardinals Falcons Ravens Browns Raiders, Dauphin Steelers Giants and Titans I said

Steelers twice but lots of teams that need new head coach. Yeah, and there's one team that needs a new OC. Yeah. Yep. It's, um... Zero. Look, there's a lot of teams.

This is how you end up with Arthur Smith, that many teams needing coaches. Yeah, there's not, just the same way that there's not enough great quarterbacks who can truly separate themselves. The truth is, there's not that many great head coaches, which is why a lot of franchises, including the Cardinals, you try to take those shots on the guys you have, never heard of. When Sean McVeigh was hired, it was almost a joke. It was like this guy is younger than than like a third of his team has no experience. And it turned out, Sean McVeigh was a savant who was worthy of that job. And now it looks foolish to even question that. But for

every Sean McVeigh that you hire, there are plenty of others that you try, you, you know, you hope, you hire, you know, the next LaFleur, maybe he'll be great. Maybe he'll be like, oh, yeah, you're the little brother for a reason. But this is my argument is don't hire the Arthur Smith's. Sure. Arthur Smith might act, he might be okay. But there are so many of the retreads that they just keep getting jobs over and over. And it's like everyone, mostly everyone's going to fail.

Why not hit on a guy like a Sean McVeigh or LaFleur where it's like, oh, we found our coach for the next 10 years instead of like, we're going to find our coach for the next three years. It is pretty funny how many of the currently just fired coaches are clearly going to be head coaches this coming year. You know, it's like Harbaugh will absolutely be a coach. Stafansky will absolutely be a head coach. It looks like McDaniel will be a head coach. So it's a little bit retrib. But then there's also the argument that these guys shouldn't have been fired. You know, you get with Harbaugh with Tomlin, who Tomlin stepped away, wasn't fired.

but I think you get just sick of it and you're just too used to it. They're not bad coaches. So like for the Cardinals, would you take hardball? Would you take, would you take Tomlin? That's the question. If Tomlin wanted to come and coach the Cardinals, we'd have to trade something for him or whatever.

Would you be happy with that? The hard part for Tomlin is, was he a, like what was his impact on not figuring things out post-Benzhen Rothusberger? Like, is that just someone else's gaff? Because they, I mean, there was plenty of years where you're watching Big Ben try to finish his career. And you're like, what? Guys, you got to start taking some shots. You've got to start getting some backup quarterbacks in here who might be the future of the team.

You know the retirement is coming. Well, he's not making personnel moves. So, I mean, a lot of that doesn't lay at his feet. That's what I mean. Like, how much is at his feet? I don't have access to that information, but I know that a team without Ben Rathesberger, even though they lose in the playoffs, they continue to overproduce for what that team. Look at all the other teams that don't have quarterbacks.

They don't make the playoffs. Harbaugh and Tomlin, you know, certain coaches like McDaniel, they have superpowers that we know in terms of play calling. I think Mike McDaniel should not have been fired. And I would take it. The superpower for Tomlin and for Harbaugh is accountability. They're leaders. Everybody that's everybody on staff. A real Jeff Saturday.

Every player. He wishes. They keep them accountable and they outperform what you expect. I think that's what Stefanski did. I thought in Cleveland they always outperform the personnel they had. I didn't agree that they did that. Would I take him? Of course.

Yeah. Of course I would. Just for the imbued respect for a couple. of years. That's what Bruce Ariens brought. Right. The league respected him too. So did we talk about Greg Roman going away? Yeah, I mentioned that he, that G. Roe had

to get fired. But like the Domlin and Andy Reid are not the same type of coach because Andy Reid brought his offense. But it's like the Philly people or they, well, we can't go over the hump. Andy Reid can't do. They boot him. After being one of

the most successful coaches in Philadelphia history, he gets a immediately and he's like, hey, Alex Smith, you want to go make the playoffs? Yeah, unfortunately, coaching in the NFL is if it works out, it's a great hire and if it doesn't work out, it's an idiotic hire. Yeah. It's moronic and stupid and you should have seen the failure coming. You know, Gero, let's talk about Greg Roman.

Yeah. The separation of Harbaugh and Greg Roman, it's happened. They fired Greg Roman because someone had to get fired. He had to just be sobbing through that whole call. Probably. You talk about Harbaugh. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. Not Gero, getting fired. This is Harbaugh. and like, Giro might as try. That makes sense. Do you know how long I've waited for this? Hold on. Hold on. You're firing me for what? But again, we lay that.

For having a bad offense? He had no offensive line. Yeah, he did not. And then you didn't have a Marry in Hampton for most of the year. And Najee. They lost Noggi earlier. And then it's like, ah, you should have made it work. And sure. But this is the NFL. It's hard. But this is the only offensive coordinator Harbaugh has had in the NFL. That's crazy to think about. Back in San Francisco, the charges. A whole time? Yeah, so now it's like what are we going to see with Harbaugh and a new O.C.

I'm very hopeful that they can grab one. Like if McDaniel doesn't get a head coach, head coaching gig, I would love to see him. We brought in our new O.C. It's Greg Romaine. Yeah, I was going to say, it's just in a terrible wig. In a disguise. The Eagles have fired head, offense coordinator, Kevin Petulah. Yeah. What? For what?

Yeah. Man, this was the easiest. Yeah. I'm genuinely, I guess I'm not shocked, but I am surprised he made it all the way until after the season. Well, yeah, they, what this will be Shane Steichen, the only one that Jalen Hurts has had back-to-back years. Offensive coordinator wise. Going all the way back to Alabama. Lane Kiffin, Thabel, Loxley, Sarkesian. I mean, it goes on and on. I'm with you, Mike. I'm with you. It's a Robin Hood thing. Yeah, just keep going.

Um, Roxley. There it is. There it is. Goodness gracious. The question is like I've seen a lot of debate as to whether the office of coordinators they've brought in have been bad or if they have to dumb it down because Jalen Hertz is bad. Right. And it's it's something that you, we're not in the room.

We don't know for sure whether they are dumbing it down or not. But we have seen Jalen Hertz with outstanding offenses as a, as a, as a, as a. good enough pass. We've seen him win a Super Bowl. We've seen him lose in a Super Bowl where he looked outstanding offensively. So I'm not personally on the side that, like I think that the offensive coordinator was a real problem this year for the year. If you had to break the offensive problems down into a pie chart, how big of a piece is Petulow eating? How big of a piece is A.J. Brown eating. How much do you lay at the feet of Jalen Hertz? I'll lay 15% at Jalen Hertz, the vast majority of Petulow.

And then I'll give like 10% to A.J. Brown. And that's just the 10% of routes he quits on. Okay. Yeah, I think the Jalen Hertz debate is going to be one forever. And it's wild that it can be when you win a Super Bowl. But we've also had like... Gone to two Super Bowls, one. Yeah, not just the win one.

He's not good. When you've been at two. What was Joe Flacco? Joe Flacko, it's called a heater. And it happens. He got in the playoffs and he... You're talking about his Super Bowl. That year for Joe Flacko was...

That dude was at the tables. And he was just point, point. The Ravens were perennial playoff teams like the Eagles are. The Ravens were defensively led like the Eagles are. And that particular year, Joe Flacko was just on. Is that the Anquorn Bolden year? I think so. I want to say Derek Mason.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I just don't know. Like, let me put it this way, and just for the sake of debate, because this is the off season, we get to do this. Yeah. You're an NFL franchise, and you have a fantasy-style draft for your quarterback. You got the number one pick in the league.

And go from there. Where does Hertz fall in? If you were truthfully drafting quarterbacks, I think that question, I mean, are you taking Justin Herbert for your franchise today, or are you taking Jalen Hurts? Hertz, I think, would be top 10. I believe I would take Herbert above him.

Okay, so you're taking Burrow? You want to do the list? Yeah, let's do the list for fun. Let's do the list. You're taking Mahomes. You're taking Josh Allen. Alan, you're taking Lamar. For sure.

Yeah. You're taking, you said Herbert. You're taking Burrow. Yes, for sure. You're taking Herbert. You're taking Stafford. I would not take Stapard. The hard problem with the stage.

is he done? I'm talking about you got to start a Super Bowl day. This is just one year? Yeah, I mean, I'm not looking at the age factor. I'm just saying from a talent standpoint at quarterback is what I'm trying to accomplish. I'm not trying to bring us into too tight of a box, but just like in terms of best quarterbacks in football today. If you're going like that, then Stafford is probably like the third pick.

Yeah, and that's, I think that's fair. I think in the playoffs right now, there's two quarterbacks that are like that, Alan and Stafford. But that's one, two, three, four, five, six. Jaden Daniel That's hard That's debatable Man I think I would take Jayden Daniels

Okay would you take Dak I think so I think I would take that I think I would take Dak Okay Here's a real Here's a real question mark Again this is for one year

Not age is irrelevant Drake May Because what we've seen Has been awesome The schedule I know If you answer that question Drake May

We've answered the entire question I don't think I do I think I go Jalen Hertz if I'm getting one year I think I go Jalen Hertz Obviously if I was building a franchise Right now the age gap And the youthfulness of Drake May

I would certainly go that way Okay Bo Nix I would go Jalen Hertz I'd go Hertz too Trevor Lawrence He looked great I would go Hertz Probably

So where does that Where does that put him in Top 12ish At 9 Okay so that's yeah That's about where I thought Are there some big names We're forgetting

Anybody over there Brock Purdy? Baker. How about Brock Purdy and Baker Mayfield? I like, I like Purdy. Dude, I think Purdy is... Shut up San Francisco. Yeah, you don't, you...

It's like, Purdy's not getting out of the top two, guys. He just beat him. Purdy is great. Pertie is a very, very... Chalby Burset. No, I'm just kidding. I believe that Brock Purdy is way better than he gets credit for it. Oh, I thought you were going to say Jalen Hertz.

I think he's better than Jalen Hertz. So you take him over? I would take him over Jalen Hertz. Yeah. I mean, well, I'm sure this will be the comment. the comment maker for today's show. I just think it's a little bit weird that situation because I do feel like when your offense is bad,

you're not always going to have a great offensive coordinator, right? Sometimes things are going to go a different direction. There have been quarterbacks, Baker, another one that's had a ton of different ones. Something falls at your feet. You've got to figure something out. You've got to learn to work in a system you don't love. Yeah. And the question of how do you go from,

165, 157, 150 rushing attempts to 105 this year. Like, where, where did that happen? Was that Jalen Hurst is just like, I'm old, I'm tired of getting hit? Caleb Williams. Oh, Jalen hurts. If there's a one-year thing, not you. Just this year? I think if you put...

I think it still hurts, but Caleb is probably... Yeah, it's close. It's close. but I would go Hertz. I mean, Jordan Love. Just Jordan Love. I think Jordan Love's really good.

I'm going to go Hertz. Sam Darnel. Can't. Can't. That's funny. Epstein. I don't want to take anything away from Hertz. He deserves all the praise of being a Super Bowl winning,

two-time appearing quarterback doing what he needs to do. But I would not, I don't feel like he's ever carried them. Yeah, I mean, it's. That's the, yeah, and this is all. It is. Subjective. It is. Subjective. It's like when you've seen a player throw for 3,700 yards, multiple times, always rushing for, I mean, other than this year, 10 touchdowns, 13 touchdowns, 15 touchdowns, 14 touchdowns,

throwing for in the 20s, that is a star. There's just not, there's not many people that can produce that many touchdowns. Who won the Super Bowl for them last year? Who won the Super Bowl? I mean, last year was Yeah, they didn't have Lane Johnson back for this game, right? Correct. So that was one of the big absences.

In Sequan wasn't the same Sequan? Not at all. It's an infinite discussion. What else do we have? We have Bryce Young's fifth-year option getting picked up by the Panthers. He probably didn't have a choice there. Made the playoffs. I think they're...

You've got Adam Thielen retiring from the national football league. And now I rest to rest. Oh boy. Eight early buffets. 89.9 million in career earnings for Adam. Good for you, man. Just the most ever for an undrafted free agent. Congratulations.

Great career. One of the best, literally one of the best Minnesota Viking wide receivers of all time. Jordan Addison arrested. Oh, my gosh. For trespassing. From Adam Thieland to this. At 3.46 in the morning on Tuesday morning. One of the not best Vikings wide receivers of all time.

What was he doing? We don't know. trying to race Rashi Rice for offseason headlines. The fact that Jordan Addison already has the super speeding

situation and then this weird mystery arrest is just, it's not good, man. It's three to four in the morning. Just be asleep. That's what I do. I always try to fall asleep

during that time period because then nothing can happen. Yeah. We don't have any details. No, we don't know exactly what happened other than you said it might involve a casino. Yes, that's where he was, I believe. 3.46 in the morning at a casino, Jason. I know you've been there before.

Sounds like a good time. Just be careful. Nico Collins is not seen a practice on Wednesday. Ricky Pearsall optimistic to return this week. I believe comments about Ricky Pearsall as far as I can throw them. Yeah. I can't throw a comment very far. The Nico Collins.

If you fold it into a paper airplane. A little bit further. The Nico Collins information is, really important to track because this offense really needs them. I mean, I know that they that got Christian Kirk, man. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah, they they put up, what, 40 points by the end of that game or 30. The defense did. Yes, but the defense, the defense did. The offense was into the the fourth, the fourth quarter was not good. This next week they need Nico and it's, I mean, it's too early to know for sure, but it's trending that he's potentially going to miss that

game. He had the short week. Four games. Let's go through them. Real quick. We're picking winners and losers. Fresh chance for you guys to make the right choices. The fact that they had to play Monday night because of football and Monday, or football and money, and your player gets concussed on a Monday as a, like the other teams could have a Sunday concussion.

Really easily can clear concussion protocol, I'll be back. But on Monday is like, it's the money machine. You can't stop it. It works in reverse, though, because if you had a player that was hurt that might not have made it back for Sunday, that you get them back for Monday, we'd be saying it in the opposite direction. Sure. For the Monday night game. Sure. I lean on the other side.

Broncos, Buffalo. Pick your winner. The game is in Denver, but they are home underdogs as a one seat. You know who I'm picking. I'm going to pick alongside you. I'm going to take the bills to make it to the Super Bowl. We basically said that earlier, which was, even though. we picked Jacksonville over the bills.

You thought the Super Bowl would come from that group? That path, yeah. Yeah, I, it's hard to bet against. Oh, Denver's favor now? It's been on the other side enough. The, like the Buffalo Bills last game, that literally was, it came down to the better quarterback won, because the teams, it was very even the whole time. And then there were two huge opportunities at the end. One quarterback got it done. The other one did not. I'll I just don't think the bills are

a good enough team and they'll run into one of these Sundays but I'll do it I'll take the Broncos the Seahawks at home against the 49ers the Seahawks will win

yeah I'm going to take the Seahawks as well no George Kittle no pass rush a pass rush will do Darnold in they don't have one The Patriots at home. Stay safe, my king. Against Houston.

The Patriots in Houston is going to be, I think, a very close game. I think this will be a difficult one. I pick New England to go to the conference finals. That's where I'll stay. The conference championship game. But, boy, that defense. It's going to be something that I feel like New England hasn't really experienced at all this year. The NICO being gone is massive.

Yeah. This is massive. Not every single team if you take off their top wide receiver. I'm as worried for that team. And Christian Gizalas, for what it's worth, should be back. Right. Look at what the Patriots did against Justin Herbert. And the Chargers, like, their Patriots have a very good defense as well.

I know the Texans have probably the best defense in the playoffs right now. So they could certainly win it for them, but I'm going to take the Patriots there. I'm going to take the paths. And the Rams away in Chicago. I've got the bears. I don't think the Stafford Rams are going to travel to the windy city and get it done. I don't blame you on that one. You're going to have frigid temperatures.

I've seen a lot made of Matthew Stafford is one and nine in these very cold games. I don't have the data. I have to presume that a lot of those cold games came when he was playing for the Detroit Lions, who never won a lot of games because they were very, very bad at that point. He's playing up in, you know, probably in Chicago in some of those. So I'm going to still take the Rams. I think they are the better team, but that's going to be a fun game. I'll take the Rams, too.

All right. We'll be back with the truth at the quarterback position. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. The wig fits finally.

Yeah. 11 years when we finally got it. The graphic got redone. It looks good. It is. It looks good. I think maybe you should think about just every day in that thing. Do we know why the powdered wig was the thing?

We looked this up once, I think. Did we? Yeah. We're rotating back to our musings of old. Okay. Like everything comes back, right? Not that one. Well, that was the point I'm going to get to.

My, all the chastity belts are coming back. That's fair. but my daughter, who is a junior in high school, just last week, was like, Dad, I wish you would have kept your jinkos. Yeah. And I'm like, what? That one came back.

Like, we were ridiculous people. We were wearing pants that could house an entire family. And we're like, they went away. Everything went to the skinniest of skinny. We're back. Like, did powder wigs ever do that? Do they go in and out? I don't think, aren't they still used?

Like in Europe? Don't, don't judges still wear them? I don't know. But according to our AI overlords, powder wigs became popular for hygiene, hiding disease symptoms like syphilis-induced baldness, the powder masking odors from lice. Is that the, is that true? Is that why? Is it really hygiene if you're just covering it on?

Is that where baldness is? Yes, this is syphilis, everybody. But thankfully we graduated from a curly white wig, howdered wigs to baseball hat. But how was that the wig? Is that the best they could do back then? That wig's awesome. It's not real hair, though.

I think in England they're called barristers. Why not? Why not? Is it barristers? The barrister, bearsers. The truth at the quarterback position. Here we go. Quarterback scoring overall.

here's some updates for you on the data we got from 2025. High-end scoring, especially. All of it was down in 2025. We did not have one single quarterback average more than 23 fantasy points per game. In the last five years, we had one a year, and then back in 2022, we had three. So high-end scores, not as much this year. Nobody above that mark. And then we only had one person above 22 fancy points per game.

Last year, we had four of those. So, you know, which is, which is more normal. Four in 2022, five in 2021. This was, yeah, this wasn't a great year. And we can blame a lot of different things. I think there's some injuries. Obviously, Lamar Jackson, who was supposed to compete for that number one pick, got banged up and hurt and didn't do very well.

No, Jane Daniels. The NFL, everything is, defenses eventually catch up. The NFL averaged two fewer offensive plays per game this year. Fewest total pass attempt since 2011. And the scramble rate at the quarterback position up, up and away from 4.5 in 2021 to 5% in 20203 to now 5.5%. It makes sense with all the youthful quarterbacks. You know, the guys that are going to run are the young guys. And you look and you're like, okay, Drake May runs.

Obviously, Jayton Daniels ran when he was playing. Caleb Williams runs. Tyler Shuck runs. Jackson Dart runs. Dart will never not run. Yeah, dart stop running. You can't tell me what to do. Don't tell me how to live my life. Yeah, and again, scrambles are a percentage of dropbacks resulting in undesigned quarterback runs where they just take off.

And you mentioned some of the reasons why. We do have an article on the website, 25 quarterback statistics for the 2025 season. You can go look at that. But Jason, talk to us about what the truth series is and what it's all about so people understand what we're going through the next couple of weeks. So our goal here on not just quarterbacks, and there's the kind of different algorithmic scores for each position. Our goal is to really take a look at who helped you the most in fantasy,

not just who finished first. Oftentimes who finished first helped you the most. That sometimes correlates. But as you go down the list, there are guys that's like, wow, he finished his wide receiver five. I don't remember him being very good. That's because he wasn't. It's because he had like three monster games. And so we tried to break it down into basically what are great games for quarterbacks

in our scoring format. We've got more than 26 points. What are good games that they score more than 21? What's a bust game under 15? There are other categories in behind the scenes. I've got nuclear games. I got super busts games to try to break down like what percentage of these games helped you versus hurt you and how not just like in general what percentage helped you versus hurt you, but how does that compare this season to the field you would have been starting? I outside of this player. So the metrics change from year to year. I think one of the perfect examples of this is like in the first 12 weeks of the season,

Kyle Pitts hit double digits at the tight end position two times. He ended up the number two fantasy tight end, number two in total fantasy points. I'm guessing. Week 15, I'm guessing that was one of your nuclear games. But we'll look at the truth. We'll start at quarterback. We're looking at four point per passing touchdown. We define a great game when we talk about it as 26.

or more points, so that's a super-duper game. Good games, 21 or more points in bust games if you score fewer than 15 points. We do not count missed games against your consistency score. And we do take out by hand manually some of those week 18 games that like Josh Allen will not be penalized. Nobody was starting Josh Allen or Dak Prescott. And those games where it's like you knew you can't start them because they might not play the whole game or they're just going to take one honorary snap. So yeah. Josh Allen

Excellent As always Number one overall Even when his team led the league In rush rate and in Total rushing yards Because he does some of that rushing himself Consistency rank for Josh Allen

Number one as well Yeah this like you talked about This was a down year for quarterbacks I was surprised that he was the number one In consistency He still had a handful of bad games But this year Pretty much all the quarterbacks

had some down performances. So he gave you the most league winning upside games. And so in the end, he was great. I don't think there's much to talk about. You look at how he's, you know, quarterback 4, 4, 3, 2, 1, 2, 2. He is as safe, as reliable, as consistent as they can get. He doesn't have weapons. It doesn't matter.

Well, let me read what I think the highlight is for Josh Allen. Because if you just looked at his passing stats, go ahead and read them real quick. His passing stats. I've got them. Why don't you just tell me what they are? I thought you had them, Jay. That's all right. 3,600 yards and 25 passing touchdowns.

You're like, oh, man. That's not great. Fifteen rushing touchdowns two years ago. 12 last year and 14 this year. So you're talking, not just squeaking into the double digits, you're talking about hyper, super significant rushing touchdown totals that bring up his score. 25% great games, 56% good, and only 19. percent bus games for Josh Allen and always, always with the ability to go nuclear and be the

number one overall quarterback. Three of those games this year at number one on the week. For the love of all this holy, get this man, an elite wide receiver. Yeah, he needs to, he needs the new Sifondigs. Just do it. And we're not talking, let me, let me be clear. We're not talking about adding Mac Hollins in the middle of the offseason or, I don't know, Josh Palmer or Brandon Cooks or Keon Coleman, a rookie in the draft. We're not talking about Curtis Samuel either. To be clear, we kind of weren't talking about Keon Coleman as far as, like, taking the shot on that first round wide receiver that you think and you hope.

He was the second rounder. Oh, it was the first pick of the second round or something like that. We are talking about A.J. Brown. AJ Brown works. Yeah, sure. So we're not talking about like this stage, AJ Brown? I would take him. I'm not saying he's bad, but I don't know that that's what fits.

For a year. All right, number two, like you said, let's not linger on Josh Allen. He was good. You know he's good. This one is the more interesting discussion. Number two overall, Drake May, 23 years old, the quarterback 15 in your drafts, with a consistency rank of four, 24% great, 53% good, only a 6% bust rate, which is awesome. He is the most interesting to me, and Jason, I want you to talk about what you see in the

truth from Drake May because I remember from week 9 through about week 15, he wasn't in the top 10 at the position. So I remember that little period of time we were like, well, has he cooled off? This team doesn't, they have a great defense. They can run the ball. Trayvion was getting involved. Stevenson was back. But then in the fantasy playoffs, quarterback seven, quarterback two.

And won people championships. but, you know, does he feel like the consistency rank of four? Is that representative in your mind? I think it is because he got off to a slow start. He had that stretch in the middle of the year. He wasn't crushing people. He wasn't killing people or like, I lost because I was. Because I was playing.

Well, he had week two was really nice, but he had a lot of his bus. Two through four were over 20 and then a bad one against Buffalo. And then six through eight. I mean, two three game stretches right at the beginning. Over 20 points. His kind of sandwich of week one and week five hurt his consistency score. If you were to take off the first five weeks of the season and look, and also that's when, you know, they weren't involving Trayvion and Henderson as much early on.

From week six on, he was the number one inconsistency score. So this is a guy who just got better as the season went on. You saw that obviously in your fantasy playoffs. He won people championships. Did everything that you hoped when you drafted him. I don't have a lot of negatives to say other than what we talked. about Jaden Daniels, and we didn't get to see it play out this year. But Jaden Daniels, in his rookie season, he had one of the easiest schedules imaginable and was awesome. And then we're

like, well, how will he do with a tougher schedule? That's what we're going to learn next year. Yeah, there's schedules going to change. You can't complain about just dominating this year as the number two overall quarterback. His draft spot next year will be very interesting to me. Because I think, especially if they get to the conference title game or beyond. People are going to be in. It's just going to be one of those players that's extremely exciting to have on your roster. Yes. And I'm not going to blame anybody for wanting to have him as their quarterback.

We were in on Jane Daniels this year, right? I think we just, we watched the film and we're like in the draft season, we were fine taking the shot on Jane Daniels. You're talking last year? No, I'm talking going into this year's draft season. We were willing to take a shot on knowing that the schedule might be hard. just based on the film and what you saw. And that's exactly how I feel about Drake May.

When you watch the film, I know it wasn't tough pass rushes and great corners and all this. But what he did was perfection. His pocket movement, his decision making, his ball placement. It's like you can't ask for almost anything more than he did this year. You will have a slight debate with me. Believing in Drake May is believing in a pocket passer to a much greater degree than believing in J.D. Daniels. Jaden Daniels ran for 890 yards as a rookie. So

that will be a small difference. That's one of the reasons I had confidence in Jaden is that, hey, it doesn't matter how bad the defense or good the defenses you're going to find a way with that kind of rushing yardage. May was at 450. Right. Half that. I think Mike's point is that's still a great number for most. It is, but it's not

going to be enough if he throws for 20 to passing. Yeah. It's a difference between a Jackson Dart type of player versus a Drake May type of player. One has a nice baseline. That was the four most rushing yards at the quarterback position. One of the things I didn't mention for Josh Allen, he was much better at home. Allen was 26 points at home, 15 on the road. Drake May was much more even.

He was actually better on the road, three points better per game. He had 12 top 12 finishes. He was great. And I think his draft spot will be very interesting because you're going to have a healthy Lamar starting next year. You have Jaden Daniels back in the equation. I put Drake May. Drake May will be in the borough area.

area to me. Probably behind Burrow. I'll go Burrow. That's what behind Burrow means. We agree with each other. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.

Yeah. He was looking in a mirror. I thought he was in a front. My screen's not on, guy. Wait, do you guys use a screen? I'm just checking myself out. No, so we agree, though. We would take Burrow about Drake.

We do agree. So, yeah, finishing it too, being drafted, maybe more in the five or six range. Matthew Stafford comes in at number three in the fantasy football finish 37-year-old Matthew Stafford, drafted by nobody and with a consistency rank of number two, Jason. He was the thorn in my side of this consistency metric. With the scoring that we have, you've got a bunch of, every year there's someone that just gets over, the threshold. There is arbitrary, you know, arbitrary lines that we draw on the sand of like,

well, a good game is this. It's like, oh, you got to score 15 points. But if you go out there and you score 15.1 three times, it really, he was on the bubble. So consistency rank of two. Obviously, him or may, one of them is going to be the MVP this year. So not a lot to complain about through touchdowns like crazy this year, which he hadn't been doing earlier. Thank you, Devante Adams. That is very helpful. Obviously, for fantasy. purposes, a great story coming from late in your draft to great. But I don't agree with my own ranking here of him being like number two in consistency, simply because he had a lot of non-bust games that were not super helpful.

He threw more touchdowns this year than his previous two seasons combined. It was just an extremely special year. Devante Adams made a tremendous difference in how they viewed the goal line packages, the touchdown totals, 35% bust rate for him compared to the 6% for Drake May. So, you know, from that perspective, your risk when it went bad was much higher. But it didn't go bad very much, especially from week four on. I mean, if you had just locked in with Matthew Stafford from week four on, you were in much better shape than Drake May from a week to week basis, unless you started him in championship week.

that would be the one week where it really, really hurt you. First of six, one of six quarterbacks ever with 4746 in a season. I mean, he is clearly going to be overdrafted to me next year. The way that I see it, you know he's a, exactly. Interesting. Because people are going to be unsure. It just looks great, assuming he's back and DeVontana. I think they roll it back next year.

My interesting was I think he'll just be left, not left for dead. like he was this year, but he'll be left to a later quarterback. I mean, if he is, if he's, what did you say? I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be overdrafted. I think what's going to happen with him is basically what happened with Baker Mayfield, where when you throw for 40 touchdowns, and you look great, people are going to be like, I want 40 touchdowns again. Baker was still like a, they won't, Baker was still like a seventh or eighth round pick.

Yeah, Matthew Stafford will be beyond that. If Matthew Stafford is a double digit, he'll be a round guy, then obviously I will change. I'll be happy to take him. in the 11th round. I bet everybody we talk about today you'll draft ahead of him. Probably true, but will other people? Number, by the way, he was a little bit better at home. Baker was in the sixth round as the quarterback seven off the board, right behind Mahomes this year.

So I, and I, this year it seemed like, wow, that was to me like the one guy that seemed a little outliery from the year before. Stafford's just in a different category for me. Yeah, maybe the age will keep his. off of draft boards for people. A little bit better at home, like you said, and then against top and bottom defenses pretty evenly distributed. Number four, Trevor Lawrence. Crazy.

Number four, Trevor Lawrence, who has a consistency rank of six. Number one in the second half of the season. Number 21 in the first half. This was, it didn't even look like it was going to be a special season at all. But what happened when this team got it together after their by week? Basically, when they came out of their by week, I kept waiting for them to not be as good as they had been playing. And they just won game after game after game.

Their offense looked great. And they were, you know, a miss, a very rare little missed field goal away from going into overtime. Right. With the bills and the playoffs. This team is fully legit. And I just don't know. Trevor Lawrence's has always looked good

on a highlight reel. You put on his highlights it's like wow, this is a special player, talented, athletic. He can run. He's a lot like Caleb. Yeah, but his most consistent feature has always been his inconsistency.

And now all of a sudden the second half of the year, he never stopped. Didn't you guys get concerned about ETSI in the first half of the year after he had the hot streak and it was like, oh, look at these rushing defenses he played. And from that point on, it was like they threw the ball so effectively with Trevor Lawrence. And you wouldn't have expected it necessarily with Travis Hunter going out, with Brian Thomas disappearing.

And yet both of those things happen. And then he has his run of number one overall consistency. 18% great games, 41% good games, 29% bust, which is a higher number. But man, those first four weeks, first seven weeks really, those really hurt what? 29% bus games is not the end of the world. And it's the snapshot of his career of 2021, 0% great, 6% good. The next year, 12 great, 35% good. Okay, we're on the path, but then it drops to 6 and 19.

Last year, 0% great games, 20% good. And this year, 18%, 41%. I mean, these are massive upgrades. and is, did it just, did the new offense click halfway through the year? The Liam Cohen offense is, it's good. The Cohen offense with what happened last year with the Bucks and this year with the Jags, he knows what he's doing. So it's just do you buy into that?

This is the one where overdraft concern comes to Mike. I think I could talk myself into him being great. Yep. I mean, Parker Washington, Travis Hunter, Brian Thomas. I love that we lead with Parker Washington, deservedly so. Brent and Strange,

Jacobi Myers. We'll see what the running back situation looks like. And if they're going to use his legs, which, you know, that was one of the things that this was the most. They'll use his whole body. Ran for 359 yards and nine rushing touchdowns.

It's the nine rushing touchdowns because he's had two other years over 300 rushing yards. And year two was 291. So he was right there. and it was a rushing touchdown spiking, which that happened with Baker last year as well. So it with Liam Cohen. Right.

So perhaps that is just the way that the defense has to play, it opens things up for a little bit more of the quarterback scrambling. He is one of two quarterbacks that has had 4,000 passing, 29 passing touches and nine rushing touchdowns in the same year. Jim and Josh Allen. Crazy. Crazy. different quarterback from week 9 on than what we have ever really seen before. And couldn't get it done against Josh in the playoffs.

Had his opportunity. Had the ball in his hands at the end of the game. So this episode's supposed to be the truth. And he is the biggest question mark of the truth when you say, which one's true? First half Trevor Lawrence, which is also known as first five years of career of Trevor Lawrence or the second half of this special season. But he's only 26 years old. if you had to lock Dack Prescott or Trevor Lawrence in as your quarterback for the entirety of next year today.

I would do, Dack. I would need to know that George is there. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. All right, let's take a break and then we'll talk about Dack. At number five, Dack Prescott of the Cowboys traded Michael Parsons. Didn't have the year they hoped they'd have, but from a fantasy perspective, the 32-year-old Dac Prescott drafted in the 10th round ended up being one of the best values at the position. consistency rate was number five overall,

so exactly where he finished in fantasy points, 19% great, 56% good, 25% bust rate. Yeah, I mean, the Dallas storyline was an interesting one all year long. We had the Giovante Williams breakout. He almost won a footie, right, for comeback player of the year. People didn't expect the running game to be as good as it was. They also didn't expect the defense to be as bad as it was. historically bad. That's something they're trying to, they fired the defensive coordinator.

They're trying to address that this offseason to some degree. And they did address it in part via trade with Quinn and Williams and partway through the season. So I do, look, we all want the legendary worst defense of all time. And they have draft capital, right? Because of, they traded Parsons. So they should have a chance at least to bring in some impact players. So, I mean, I think that there is a, you know, We're going to look back at this season and say that's probably the worst the defense is ever going to be. But DAC has been very, very good for a very, very long time since he, you know, as long as he's got those weapons. How big of a differential do you look at, Jason, if George is gone versus George being there and you're sealing for DAC on a week-to-week basis?

I don't see George as absolute mission critical for DAC to succeed. Is he helpful? Absolutely. It's just great to have another good target. but it's not like he had, you know, George two years earlier when DAC was the quarterback three. He was the quarterback five. What's that? You had a C.D. Lamb who was two years younger. Sure. C.D. Lamb, I mean, that was the year where C.D. Lamb and Dak won everybody championships.

But they didn't really have a wide receiver two of note. I think that was Brandon Cook's, you know, whatever. My point is, I think that can get it done. Basically, if Dak plays a season, you know, you look back at the last. his entire career. He has three years where he didn't play 16 games. And in those, they were, they were lost busted seasons to catastrophic injuries. So take those out. Every other year of his career, he's been a quarterback one. And most of the time, he's a top six quarterback. His consistency has always been below where he finishes, though. So that's been more of the

volatility with Dak. The great years, he's, even this one, right? He's a little bit lower than where he finishes in terms of some weeks. It just doesn't seem to work out for him. Other weeks, it looks like he's unstoppable, more momentum-wise. I mean, even in this season, you had book-ended weeks of four, two, three, and four. Those are amazing. 25th against Minnesota and 18th against Arizona in a game you thought he would kill.

That's just one thing that stands out to me a little bit with DAC. Much better at home as well, six points better per game at home. Is CD the same CD? That'll be a question. I think CD is outstanding, a top 10 NFL wide receiver, but I doubt that C.D. Lamb is, like Mike said, he was two years younger, two years ago. And that makes a difference. I don't think CEDs going to have his, he's already

had his best year of his career when all of a sudden done, but he's still a fantastic, you know, top option. Set his career high in passing yards and passing attempts. And the passing attempts should come down if they can improve their defense. Could have been the first ever Dallas Cowboy to lead the NFL in passing yardage. She was leading, I believe, going into the final week of the season. Stafford pass him or? Yeah, Stafford. And I think someone, maybe golf passed him.

But it was like he didn't play the game. Yeah, they shut him down. They shut him down and let the Milrose place in there. Or is that? No, you're just, Milton. You're just digging to Milton. Yeah. You went Jaila.

Mizzou Joe. Yeah. So that, I don't know. I feel like they did him dirty. 10 or 2-1, Joe. I feel like they did them a little dirty. I get it. You're not playing for anything.

See what you got there. Don't get that. Didn't he play some of that game? He played about half, yeah. Okay. Number six, Caleb Williams, 24 years old, drafted in the 12th round, consistency rank for Caleb of 10.

That feels about right. 12% great games, so not a huge number there. 41% good, 35% bust. Are we figuring it out with Caleb? is this Luther Burdon, Colston Loveland? Like, look at you, if you look at those two players, if you tell me moving forward, they're the two I'm most excited about it in your offense.

In this 17-game sample, you had contributions from them in about four games. Not much, right? Loveland was a late-season edition. Burden kept getting banged up and then, you know, barely worked into the offense. I think Caleb is going to be probably the most controversial quarterback to draft because I could see he'll go way about Matthew Stafford.

He'll go so highly drafted. You're going to have to call your shot on Caleb. And you're going to say because of what we've seen from these weapons, what we've seen from Loveland the last couple weeks of the regular season, these playoff weeks, what we've seen from Burden, knowing that you'll have a healthy Roma dunzae, a year two in the Ben Johnson system. There will be someone in every single league that will take Caleb so high.

Top five quarterback drafted because all it takes is one person in each league to believe that he's going to be the superstar special really break out to the next level player. When you look at, and did you have a concluding thought? My only concluding thought is I won't be that guy pulling the trigger. It's interesting because these guys, the last three we debated with Lawrence and Stafford and now Caleb, it's like we love your play caller. We love them. We love Sean McVeigh.

We love Liam Cohen. Yeah. And we love Ben Johnson. And so from a predictive standpoint, those are the guys that you want to look at and say, like, Baker's changing them every year. Jalen Hurts is changing them every year. These three guys, those are your play callers next year.

So if you want to, you know, hang your hat on something, that gives you a little bit of confidence that it can at least stay around where they're at now. Caleb took advantage of bad defenses more than any of these other quarterbacks we've talked about so far. he was six points better against bottom half defenses than he was top half defenses. It's not uncommon, but there are some red flags here of Caleb Williams completed 58% of his passes. Unacceptable. That is the only, let's see, Should Doer and J.J. McCarthy were worse among qualifiers. Dude, I'm telling you, if you watch Caleb Williams this year,

I want to see the stats. First drive, from the second drive to the second to last drive. That part of the game. Because first, the scripted drive for every Bears game, it was like, wow, Caleb's good. Nine of ten passing. Just look sensational. It's like they come out and they look hot. And then he sucks until they're down by a couple scores.

Like if you could take just the first part of the first quarter and the second half of the fourth quarter away, I feel like he's got to be like 25% completion percentage. I want to know what his splits are a completion percentage of passes completed or attempted with both feet on ground. That's probably 3%. And then the passes with at least one foot in the air or none. So his completion percentage dropped 5% this year. Yeah, that's. So that's one of the red flags that you're talking about.

It's concerning. And that is, it was a new offense. Maybe that had something to do with it. the fact that he was at 63% before, you know, maybe he can get back there. But it's like, that is not something you want to see. Touchdown rate went up substantially. The interceptions did not. He's a, he is a very bizarre player because I think he. You would think the offensive line improvements would improve the completion percentage,

but he's also challenging down the field a lot. He has true. true elite attributes for a quarterback. Yeah. Oh, man. His laser beam is. But as like right now, I don't think he's a great quarterback. Which, I mean, that's,

I think you're 100% right. And I think that that's what's so tantalizing about it. But with, yeah, that's the hope. What if he develops in to, if he Josh Allen's, he will be a top three quarterback. Or if he's Josh Allen, you're like, I'm the best quarterback in the league. But I mean, you take that type of a jump. He will be a top three quarterback in the league. The thing that is frustrating

about these weapons should be affirming for Caleb Williams. You don't know where the ball distribution is going to go. Is it Rome? Is it Burden? Is it Loveland? DJ Moore is going to get a few as well. But they all go to Caleb Williams. And this is an offense that I think everybody wants a piece of. You look at this office. They scored 31 points, 47 points, 31, 38. Like they're putting up big time fantasy performances. When you target Colston Loveland, you complete 72% of your passes. Oh, Mr. Lovelin.

We have the numbers. That'll help. They're weird. They're weird? This will shock you. Okay. A stat about Caleb Williams, and it's weird. Okay.

I'm shocked. First quarter, he completed just under 61% of his passes. Okay. So up from his average. Second quarter. We're going to take that one off. 53.75% of it. Yep.

Okay. That's what I saw. Half time. Get it going. Third quarter completes almost 63% of his passes. Oh, all right. Fourth quarter completes just over 56% of his past. Oh, man.

That's why it's got to be the final drive. He loves the odd quarters. He's an odd cat. He loves those years. He's an odd cat. He plays one on the odd quarters. I will say this. I want to recognize this and watch it for however long the bears are in the playoffs.

I think one week, but maybe several. We used to play a game in the office while we watched Caleb Williams, Mike and I. Yes, yes. Where whenever he took the snap, especially in shotgun,

we'd basically just start screaming at the TV like, oh crap, oh, crap, oh, crap! And it's really fun, because that's what it looked like was running through Caleb Williams' head every time he had the ball. Before he even gets to read one. He's like, oh, crap!

Ah! Ah! It didn't look that way the last couple weeks. The last couple of weeks, I saw... When he was fading backwards with his feet up in the air? No, there were plays that did, but it used to be every play. And now it's like I saw plays where I was like, hey, he's just... He's actually just in the pocket, making it rid and taking a shot.

So he is obviously very young. He's only in year two, 24 years old. He can take that level up and he's got the weapons and everything built around him to do. It'll be exciting. And at a minimum, he's going to be a high... Yeah. He'll probably be the too expensive guy. Probably. Bow Nix at seven, consistency rank of 12.

Really disappointing year for Bo Nix. That's my summary of this year. I am in agreement. 12% great and 29% good. And 35% bust. This is kind of, I feel like you have drawn a line now in these, in these, the first six versus where we're out with Bo Nix. He came in with high expectations. seventh round draft pick, right?

So drafted ahead of your Caleb Williams, drafted head of Lawrence, ahead of DAC, ahead of Stafford, certainly. And really just, I'm going to say, like, just not good for fantasy. Not at all. There were big performances from time to time.

You couldn't always predict when they were going to come. Sometimes it looked like the Broncos played down to their competition, so you'd be like, oh, they're going to wipe the floor with this team. and then they just didn't. Their offense was sometimes awesome and sometimes didn't travel with them. And, you know, you talked about play callers. I still like Sean Payton.

I like his offenses and his teams for production. So I'm confident, obviously, that he'll have that rolling into another year and another year going forward. What do you love about Dallas? I love that their defense was so bad that you had to score 30 to win. That's a bit of a problem for both.

It is a real problem because the Broncos' defense is darn good. And I'm not sure he could do it if they needed him to. I'm not sure he couldn't do it if they needed him to. Well, look, Bo Necks. Look, I do not think that the way he played this season locks him in as their started for the next five years. I'll put it that way. I think, man, getting the number one seed, I think he does it. Oh, it's a fair argument.

3,9-205 with 11 picks. It's fine. It's fine. Right? Yeah. I mean, that's what it was. It was fine. I mentioned this a couple shows ago. I think the two quarterbacks that, you know, there's different approaches in your draft season. And for us, I think, Universal, I know at least for me, the two late targets were Bo Nix and Drake May. Those were the guys that projected to take that leap forward.

They had a rushing baseline. they liked their offenses, blah, blah, blah. One was good, one was bad, as a pick. Yeah, let me give you some numbers here, weird season. And by the way, people need to remember, and I'll remind them so the comments are less inflammatory. We're talking about fantasy football. Just because, look, Bonix was not a very useful fantasy football quarterback.

That doesn't mean they're not the number one seed, right? It didn't mean he didn't accumulate some stats. It meant on a week-to-week basis. his consistency rank barely got him in the top 12 at the position and wasn't what we expected from the seventh round pick among 38 qualifying quarterbacks with 200 plus dropbacks he was 24th in completion percentage first in sack rate

wow I did not know that 30th and off target rate that's not good both of those feel like a Caleb Williams number that's what's supposed to be Caleb Williams not not Bo Nix and third in 20 plus area art attempts we like that one So, and by the way, first and sack rate means sack the least. Yeah, he's protected. Oh, okay.

He's protected. All right. The bat. That's why I was so surprised. It makes the red flags. It makes the red flags annoying because he did have time, right? He takes shots down the field. Those are those pay off sometimes.

He doesn't get sacked a lot. But then he completes the 24th most percentage of passes and then is off target like crazy, which we saw all the time. Oh, my gosh. Nobody loves running out of the pocket and missing a throw more than. bonehicks. Yeah. Like, I swear in his head he's going, I'm Patrick Mahomes when he does that.

He has a superstar wide receiver too now, though. So it's okay. Which one are you talking about? Oh, come on. Oh, yeah, that guy. That guy? Listen, Mike, you need to leave some room for your guys so that when they are superstars for real, you can then have a way to describe them.

Right. If you describe Pat Bryant as a superstar today, then late. Later on, if he does become one, you don't have any more words left. No, I do. It's still superstar. Okay. I'll be at the party. And then everyone can show up, and I'm going to be belligerent. I can't remember numbers for superstars.

Well, let me see. Is it 31 for 378? Oh, in one year? You did have one touchdown. Yeah. Wow. He did catch 31 passes on. You know who I'd rather have.

No, you would not. Yes, I would. No, you would. I would 100% rather have a truth. I think realistically that makes sense. You wouldn't take Franklin? No. Pat Bryant is the two.

Pay attention. What do you mean he's the two? He's the two. You're saying he's going to be the two. Yes, he is the two moving forward. Because 709 and 6 says that someone else was the two. Right. All right.

The numbers say something. You can like him, Mike. But the year Mike is over. Yeah. Calendar has turned. Do we want to talk about one more quarterback? Do we got time for that? Sure. He's the most consistent one out there. He is?

Well, he's consistent in that he finished as the quarterback eight on the season. His consistency rank on the season was quarterback eight. His first half consistency rank was eight, and his second half consistency rank was eight. So I would say he was darn consistently what he was this year. Consistently number eight. It's Jalen Hertz. And we have the discussion to. start the show. Definitely didn't deliver on a quarterback three draft spot in the third round.

No. So that was a big time bummer. It was Patooey. Real struggle against top 16 defenses, five to six points less in the tough defensive matchups, much better at home. So if you were on the road against a, if you're on the road against the tough defense, you didn't see very much fantasy production. I'm looking at this game log. I'm not seeing very many of the kind of like vintage Jalen Hertz wins you your week type of weeks. 13% great, 44% good, 31% bust. The designed runs were down. We talked about that.

It was inexcusable to me. Didn't have the protection of the running game being as good as it was last year with Saquoan Barclay. Constant controversy with the past catchers. 3,200 yards and 25 touchdowns. I mean... Yeah, I mean, this was his lowest percentage of great games in the last five years. his lowest percentage of good games in the last five years, and the highest percentage of bust games in the last five years.

Yeah, that's a big deal. It was a really bad year if you drafted Jalen Hertz and just tried to ride him. He was okay. He didn't crush you, but he didn't return on the draft capital. And now the question going forward next year, what is the truth? Is, are the weapons going to get better? Is another year older, AJ Brown, going to be more motivated next year? How's this defense?

The defense is part of the problem. Same for Bo Nix. a lot of the games that the Eagles won this year, they did so without needing a lot from their offense because their defense was so doggone good. But I believe that getting a new offensive coordinator, I mean TBD on who they hire, but getting another one in there will be just awesome.

Petulow had no, it was like, I feel like it was just the same formation, almost every play and it's the same route. It just looked like he had three. plays all season. He was definitely a problem, but we are going to go into the offseason with mysteries here that aren't going to be solved until you see them play football, especially when it comes to like the, you know, we know what Devante Smith's going to, he'll be there and I'll be good. But the AJ Brown question mark, the new offensive

coordinator question mark, Sequin's going to get a year older. What's the running game look like? What is that? Is Lane Johnson going to be healthy? Is the offensive line going to be healthy? They've got a lot of money locked up in these void years. They might have to do some reworking. of their situation. Barkley, you know, like Berkeley last year and Henry also, whereas like,

you know, they kind of had to, hey, no, elite running backs are worth the money. You got to go get them. They can change your team. And you're like, don't worry about how old they are. We really flipped that on his head because Barkley is not worth what he's being paid right now.

And look, if they bounce back, then he'll be worth it. Everything's great. If they don't, you tell me Philly has patience for Siriani? I can't believe he is holding his job. You're going to have a... He literally won the Super Bowl last year.

I understand that. Philadelphia. He's also got... He's very loud. If they have a disappointing year next year, he will get kicked in the sack out of town, for sure. Okay. That's how Philly does it. Get kicked out of town.

Yeah. We are going to wrap it up, but I'm going to give you number nine and number 10, just the numbers. Jared Goff came in at nine, consistency of 11, 12, 12, percent great. It was good in the second half. 35 percent bust. But yeah, Jared Goff definitely finished stronger, but not week 17. Don't pay attention to that. Justin Herbert came in at

10 with a consistency rank of 9. It's funny because you look at these game logs and it's like... They didn't help you. Well, they didn't help you. And, like, I'm just remembering the reaction to Justin Herbert in week one. One good week of Herbert. Just remember this. You know, we always have our... We're going to have our 10 things to remember episode.

Yeah. Justin Herbert's one of mine because... The Herbrose. It was like the most confirmation bias you could ever have. It was like, well, I love Justin Herbert, right? We all love him. He could be great. We've seen him great before. And then it's like Harbaugh and G-Row. Let's go.

Let's see what he's got. Oh, my gosh. Kansas City finished number two. Look, a lot of trades were made after week one to either get him or cash in. And it didn't work out after that point pretty much. If you cashed, it worked. Look, 25% grade's a good number. Like, so if you had a blow-up game, that's cool.

you got a handful of those. You really didn't finish in between the grade and the bust very often. 25% grade, 50% bus games. That doesn't work. That's the least kind I want at quarterback. Here's the truth about quarterbacks to wrap up the episode of the truth about quarterbacks. We just looked at the top 10. And when you get past the top six, they hurt you almost as much as they helped you.

They didn't return on draft capital, even though like Justin Herbert finishes the quarterback 10. wasn't really helpful. So therefore, either you get one of the studs or you stream the position because matchups matter as much. I mean, if you just are playing Justin Herber or Jared Goff or these guys every single week, they're not going to help you win.

You need to get multiple guys or stream off the waiver wire, get a Jacoby Brissette off the waiver wire, get, you know, Trevor Lawrence off the waiver wire and just play. Tyler Shuck. Yeah, play the heaters. I mean, I lost a championship in the listener league to Tyler Shuck. The nice thing is you're obviously going into the season trying to find that diamond in the rough. And if you get your Drake May, you're happy.

And if you get your bone X, you pivot and you stream because you didn't invest too much. So let's get into the face off. Fantasy face off, presented by prize picks. All right, Jason, lucky you. Wheel of shame. Well, well, well, Jason ended up losing. Mike and I think we were three for four. Jason was some combination of two for three or two for four.

Nico was three for 21 in the... Should have tied, but let's spin that wheel, baby. I would mean, I should have gone four for four if we're going with that logic. Oh, did you know, Nico? No, but I had a guy who didn't hit his projection. Smoking! Oh, yeah, baby. It's a mask. Oh, my goodness.

This is what we got for you. Oh, that's tight. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. He might die for real. Oh, that's tight. Jason, you can do it.

I lost it here. I believe in you, Jason. Yeah. Oh, all right. Oh, that's not terrifying. This doesn't even look like the bat. This just looks like a green alien. Yeah, you're funny.

It's very stretched out. Oh, man. Can you breathe? Enough. All right. Starting at the quarterback position. this week. It's my green goblin at the quarterback position. Brock Purdy.

Point five passing touchdowns, I'm taking the more. The mask doesn't wear glasses. The mask. He's a superhero. I'm a librarian. Let's think about a superhero wearing glasses. The mask is a superhero? Yes, he is. Once the mask is on. Brock party more than 0.5. Mike, what do you got? I went with Caleb Williams.

231.5 passing yards. I'm going more. That was almost mine. We're going. Let's get crazy. man. Caleb Williams. I don't know what he's going to do, but let's enjoy the ride. I've got Matthew Stafford. Those glasses are falling off your face. On the other side.

I've got Matthew Stafford on the other side. I'm going 19 and a half fantasy point. Oh. I'm going more. I think that's going to be a shootout. At the running back position, you know him. You love him. His name's Hermandre Sevenson. Oh, my gosh. I'm taking

the rushing and receiving combo of 59 and a half. I'm taking the more. You are the mask went to a retirement home. What are you doing with the I can't see? This is my green goblin.

You got Ramandre. I got Trevian Henderson because all he needs is a catch. What? A catch. That's a green goblin? That's a good fine. It's point five. If he has a catch, it will be more than the projection of 0.5.5.

That's what it is? Wow, that's a kind of fine. I was like, okay, next one. All right, sir. Mine is Trayvion Henderson. Point five. Oh, yeah. No, not really.

I just wish it was. It was a good one. That was a good one. No, I've got your other guy, who is my green goblin. Christian McCaffrey. Oh, my king. He needs more than 39 and a half rushing yards for me to hit. Dude, you want me to, you want me to confess something here?

Yeah. Is he your goblin? He is my goblin. Yeah, because the non-goblin, Christian McCaffrey projection was like 57 and a half rushing guys. And I was like, I know what I have to do, which is take the less,

but I won't. I won't do it. Even though it's the right thing to do, I won't. At 39 and a half. Yeah, you think you got it? See, he's got that.

My wide receiver, it's going to be Khalil Shakir because, well, okay, he's got to use him. Does he? Seven receiving targets. Oh, that's a lot.

I'm taking the more for Khalil Shakir. All right. Yes, he does have to use him. They lost Gabe Davis to an ACL. That's right. They did, yeah. They do not have reliable weapons. They're going to three of those, four of those targets are going to be screen game targets right out of the bat.

Sure. I'm taking seven and I'm taking the more. Interesting. I have Cortland Sutton. His projection is at four receptions. I'm going more. I've got Cortland Sutton. His projection is six and a half targets.

I'm going more. I hope we're both right then. And no surprise here, maybe. Oh, come on now. Cole and, oh, Lovland. Mr. Loveland, 4.5 receptions. I'm taking the more. Mr. Loveland, 4.5 receptions, I will take the more. Mr. Loveland, 55 and a half receiving yards, I'm taking the more.

Oh, all right. Triple Loveland there, huh? Yeah. All right, that was Fantasy Face Off, presented by prize picks. Join millions of users and sign up for America's number one fantasy sports app. use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups when you play $5. I want the people at home to know one thing before I close this show out, which I'm sure Jason wants me to do as fast as possible.

Why? Jason put a true effort together for you to get this mask on his face. It was, I have never seen some, because we normally, you know, you're the mask now. We just have to hope they fit. You are the mask. We're going to have to get the scissors. This is the end of the episode.

Cut him out of the mask. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate you. Enjoy the games this week, and I cannot wait. Goodbye. Smoke it. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com.

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