Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy TEs + House of False Hope - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/8

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

The final TRUTH episode of the year! On today’s fantasy football podcast, a deep dive look at the TE position! Was Travis Kelce or Sam LaPorta more consistent last year? Which TEs can take a step forward in 2024? Plus, Super Bowl predictions and more! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for February 8th, 2024. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast, Thursday. Today, days away from the big game. They call it the big game. They do. Which, now that hearing you say it, it's a little unlike the NFL. Because it's the big game. But that implies there's a bigger and a biggest. You're saying bigger than big?

Yeah. I thought you were going to say it implies the other ones are small. Well, I'm saying if I'm the NFL, it's the biggest game. None shall be bigger. This is just a big game. They do put the in there, though. The big. Yeah, like it's the big game. Well, mine is the biggest game.

The biggest game is the Pro Bowl. We all know that. Oh, yeah. Did that happen? Yeah, it did. It's just a whisper in the wind. I saw Justin Tucker winning

a tic-tac-toe. Who's watching this stuff? I mean, it's cool to see the highlights of it later. I saw CJ Stroud throw a dime to Jamar Chase in a flag football game. I saw Jalen Hurts hit no targets at all in the quarterback challenge.

Zero. Whenever you talk about it, it's all stuff. Oh, I would watch that. I just don't ever remember the brain. When the huge playoff weekend is done, your brain kind of just shuts down until the big game. It's not something you carve out of your skin. Like, if it's on and it's in front of you, you know, if I'm eating at a restaurant and that's on the TV, I'd be like, oh, this is awesome.

But I'm not going out of my way to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Appointment television stuff. There's tic-tac-toe kicking going on. Brooks put it pretty well here. Brooks, you said it's like what? SNL? Yep. You watch the highlights after.

Yeah. I think that's fairly true. That's sad. That makes me sad. Once upon a time, SNL was, you know, oh, it's Saturday night. Now it's like, yeah. Well, we're old. That's true.

I can't even tell you who's on the show anymore. Oh, don't say that. This is Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. You're Mike Wright. That's true. I can't even tell you who's on the show anymore. Oh, don't say that. This is Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. You're Mike Wright. That I am. The. Those are the three on the show.

Three days until Super Bowl Sunday. The UDK pre-sale begins on Sunday. And you can get the UDK Plus, the Dynasty Pass, all of the content available immediately. Because winning fantasy football championships it doesn't it doesn't stop never gotta put in the work can't stop won't stop and nobody wants to stop we want to keep playing in fact when i was walking in here this morning i was glancing as i'm often doing towards deucer's alley and uh And Papa Josh is over there.

You've got Judge Giamatti, the Rapscallion, this morning. But I heard Papa Josh, he was talking to Kyle. And he was talking all about his picks in the upcoming draft and how great a situation he's in. Oh, rookie picks? No. Was it rookie picks? Yeah. I got the 102 and the 103, man.

Oh, yeah. And huge. You got Quentin John Yeah. I got the 102 and the 103, man. Oh, yeah. And huge. You got Quentin Johnston. So you're set up. You could turn it. Look, right now, I promise you could get a third. For huge? A third rounder for huge.

I will offer my third straight up for Quentin Johnston. Do you accept? I'm not sure I would offer mine. Well, right. That's really tempting. You got to get out. So, yeah, yeah. Everybody's still ready to rumble.

I mean, we've got the Super Bowl. We'll have free agency, the combine, all of the draft buzz. It's going to be a good time. Today we have more truth. Is this the final show? Oh, yeah. He doesn't even say other things anymore. Yeah.

Did he say that? That was just a button, right? You don't have an incentive-laden contract, Brooks, where you only get paid on days you say it. He is building a brand. He really is. Ohyeah.com. Yeah. Go a brand. He really is. Oh, yeah,.com. Yeah.

Go over there. How many W's? I think that's a four burger. Do you have to register all of them? Oh, yeah, you'd have to register all those domains. Jason's not wearing a hat today. Haircut day. Oh, you got to pay respect to the barber.

Respect the barber. Make their job easier i had to do that the other day yeah yeah and um it is funny though that after the haircut i will just be putting a hat back on wait so you will you're not gonna get you're not gonna show it off for a little bit uh maybe a day we'll see isn't it then disrespectful to the barber? Ooh. Depends on if they do good or not. There's not much you can do, Mike. I got problems. Are you on a per hair basis paying the highest rate possible for a haircut? Oh, absolutely.

Right? That's how you should. Still going to a nice, you know, a higher end barber. Why get it cut if you're only going to wear a hat? I'm telling you, one of these days I'm just shaving my head. You should just shave. Do it, you coward. You don't need to shave the whole head. Just shave it above the hat line. You know what I mean? Oh, like the monk? No, is that a fryer? Yeah, the fryer cut because we wouldn't know. That's fair. See how long you could go with us not knowing you

shaved your head no okay this has been fun quick question of the day do you believe drake london will be a value pick in the 2024 fantasy football draft season he was a fifth round pick last year the wide receiver 23 off the board he finished as the wide receiver 39 a year after finishing at 35. I mean, similar numbers, 69 receptions, 72 the year before, same catch rate, similar yardage around 900, touchdowns abysmal at two. Targets were the same, snap percentage the same. He's 22 years old. To say he's a value would be to say that he will be undervalued by the majority of people. And looks like his early best ball ADP is wide receiver 27.

So, which that's the degenerates. Shout out to the DJs out there already doing best ball. I think my opinion is that Drake London will be a top 24 wide receiver next year. Okay. We like that. But like 23-24. So, value off of that 27 draft spot, barely. Well, that's fine.

The thing for Drake London is he's still – we're going into year three. I think we've – I've seen enough to know this is a player who, in the right circumstance, could be incredible. I think that he is an excellent wide receiver. He has dealt with bad quarterback play for his two years. He's dealt with a coach who was extremely frustrating and not using his best players as the focal point of the offense more often than not. But what I loved, Raheem Morris, the new coach of the Atlanta Falcons,

and you always got to be careful with these types of things, but still for that press conference to say, what excites you about the potential of the Falcons offense? He goes, ah, Drake London? Yeah. Like, for a head coach to just – He added one more. Yeah, Bijan as well.

Thank you. Yes. But for him to just come out right and say it of – I've seen this player, and it feels like in him just saying Drake London, he said, I've watched Drake London. he's been criminally underutilized, and I'm going to figure out how to unleash him. Yeah, I mean, those weren't – Yeah, cop hits not mentioned.

Yeah, those were the assumed words. But, you know, the way that I view Drake London, he's obviously flashed. You watch the film and you go, oh, he's a good – you haven't watched him and been like, man, he lot of mistakes he should have got that ball he should have broke that tackle his opportunities weren't great and his quarterbacks aren't great right now under contract are Taylor Heineke and Desmond Ritter they're both under contract in 2024 I don't know that they're gonna go out and find someone else. And if the quarterback doesn't change, I do not believe that Drake London is going to have a great year.

So will he be a value? Probably not. That being said, when you're 22 years old and you're that talented, if you're talking about drafting him as the wide receiver 27, it's not a bad, it's not a bad chance to just take a young explosive athlete that still has a path towards breaking out. He is in the category of some of the few players that could have a breakout season, like a big breakout season. You know the Heisman House commercials you've seen, though?

Yeah. You know, because apparently all the Heisman winners, they all live together in a big house. Yeah. There is another house. I don't know if you knew this. Oh, let me hear. It's not as nice of a house. It's where Terry McLaurin lives. It's where DJ Moore used to live for many years.

It's like a two bedroom. It's beat up. It's mold. I do worry that Drake London may move in. We're talking the exact same way that we talked about Terry McLaurin 100% which is I don't like his quarterback we know the talent is there he always makes big plays and then you just you're just like playing it's like the record is on repeat right yeah and so we're not close enough to where you would ever say Drake London

can't break out but I think Jason's right I mean what are your odds your odds are rookie quarterback or existing quarterback which the GM has said essentially it's not Ritter okay so Taylor Heineke rookie or they go they go hard after some other option. Yeah, and you're going to say Russell Wilson, and that's not great. That's not great. There's been rumors of Justin Fields, who obviously did support DJ Moore enough this last year. I don't know that that's great. Obviously, if they were to go get a Kirk Cousins, I'd be all over Drake London.

I'd be thrilled. He would not be a value. No. Because his ADP all over Drake London. I'd be thrilled. He would not be a value. No. Because his ADP would skyrocket. He would just be a very good fantasy asset. It's not the house of hope, Brooks. It's the house of false hope. That's the house.

There it is. And DJ Moore, I mean, he packed his bags, right? Is he out front the house now? Is he waiting to be picked up? Yeah, he's waiting on the Uber. Did he move out? No, he's waiting on the Uber, but he is no longer inside that little apartment that's what i think so terry mclaurin gets the master suite of that home come on um yeah but drake london is a legit he all he needs

is targets like you gave drake london 150 targets i still think they need to be good targets well but but just 50 ridder targets just extrapolating what he did this year, at least you'd be sitting there at 85, 90 receptions, 1,200 yards. The touchdowns are not coming without a better quarterback and a better system. Yeah, last year we had a game of 9 for 125 against Washington and 10 for 172 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Not every wide receiver in the NFL can do that.

That means he had like 600 or 500 yards in the other 16 games. Yes. Painful. But that's, you know, it's hard to find a quarterback. It is. That's what I'm learning. All right, let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league

hey andy's covering his face and chuckling i don't know what you know kyle has a way to disrupt the show sometimes is this the photographs of greg roman can't be the same person. There's no way this is the same person. Kyle, how dare you? This man has lived four lives? I'm sorry. This is terrible for the podcast, but our show doc... I admire this.

The Chargers officially hired Greg Roman as their offensive coordinator. We just talked on the last show about the fact that we liked the idea of maybe Saquon landing in Los Angeles, and we knew Greg Roman was probably coming on board. We didn't know at the time that it was going to be officially the offensive coordinator position.

But Kyle has pasted pictures of his time in San Francisco, Buffalo, Baltimore, and then he spent a year off. This man has gone through. That third picture cannot be real. He has reinvented his look many times. And he got there. Like, he's progressed through some bad times to get to a final visual that's like, okay, all right, this is fine for you. Haven't we all?

I can't help but notice that the very first picture, his hairline is somewhat similar to Jason's today, and the next three hats in all three pictures. Yeah. Is this Jason's future? Oh, yeah. Well, I'm not looking forward to picture three. We got to tweet this out.

I hope I'm past picture three. I hope picture three was like two years ago. You already had. Picture three is over. Yeah, good. But you got to get the gray beer well we got to tweet this lineage out i'm shocked the third one is a different person that's that's an actor that's somebody else um the chargers hired greg roman the chargers are going to run the crap out of the football greg roman has been an offensive coordinator for the better part of a decade. I mean, this is,

this is not someone we are unfamiliar with and it's not just, well, this team and this personnel, you know, he was the Niners, the Bills and the Ravens, all three doing the exact same thing, which is being basically top three in rushing attempts usually and bottom three in passing attempts usually. That's literally how extreme it is almost every single year of his career for all those different teams they want to run the ball now my biggest concern with Harbaugh Greg Roman is obviously Harbaugh is coming off a tremendous run national title. What if it doesn't work?

Because I think it is going to be the philosophy. I think it's going to be what he wants to do at the NFL level. I do have a bit of a concern that it just doesn't work the way he wants it to work. I think it will work. Well, he's going to need a running back, and the updated news that we got is the Giants are not expected to use the franchise tag for a second straight season on Saquon. Seems like Barkley's heading for free agency.

I personally also would not be shocked if they signed him to a deal, the Giants. But they have to do something. Correct. If you're trying to be – if your goal that you have set on day one is we will be dead last in passing attempts, you better go out and get yourself a running back. Yeah, Josh Kelly, not going to do the trick there.

And Austin Eckler's probably not coming back. So they have a salary cap issue. That's the biggest thing is that we can hypothesize about a big signing of Saquon, but there's no money. So they'd have to do something. Yeah. I mean, the NFL always – they've blown my mind enough to where it's like, oh, this team doesn't have money.

You can figure it out. You sign things, cut things, move things around. It shows up. $44 million over the cap. It shows up eventually, though. Like, look at the Saints. Right. It does get – the creditors do show up eventually.

But, like, five years ago, I remember the Saints being like, we're here. And then it's like they keep going. So, I don't know. The salary cap keeps increasing. I will say this, and this is important for all dynasty players. Like, we had a dynasty show yesterday come out talking about this upcoming rookie draft class. There's a couple guys that I think are pretty talented.

Overall, it's a very weak draft class. I don't think NFL teams are looking to this year's draft class and saying— You're saying in totality? In totality. In totality, thisality and in totality this is i believe to be not just the running back position no no no no just the running back position oh you didn't specify that sorry yeah yeah so just well i was talking about the running back episode we did um on the dynasty show that came out yesterday make sure you you're listening

to the dynasty pod um but the running backs are a weak draft class and there's a lot of free agents like my point is for saquon his market is better because there isn't like a couple of real blue chip prospects you've got derrick henry josh jacobs saquon barkley tony pollard um austin eckler devin singletary deandrere Swift. Those are the free agent running backs available. In contrast, there aren't really running backs projected to go in the top two rounds. Exactly. So, yeah, it's a good point. It'll be very interesting to see what they end up with,

to see if Justin Herbert runs more. I think he will. If he doesn't, I mean, it's a leap to say that he's going to that's going to become a huge part of his game in my opinion well especially with the injuries he's dealt with so i could it happen yes do we have he is not josh allen i know his physical stature is josh allen but his his instincts to run the football are not the same as josh allen um and the physicality. Yeah, the history. The dog. Does he have the dog in him? Is he willing to risk his physical well-being on a regular basis? Right.

I don't think he's ever going to be someone running for 600 yards by any means, but I do think every game will have one or two designed runs to utilize his athleticism because of the scheme, and that'll up him to maybe a 350, 400-yard rushing player. I mean, he's had 300 rushing yards before. Mike Williams is a $32 million cap hit, which is the number two in all the NFL at wide receiver.

But hold on. Who's number one? Keenan Allen. Yeah, it is. Oh, man. So Keenan Allen allen a 34 million dollar cap hit which i don't seeing it now is like that could be actually i mean that's some leverage for keenan allen to come into this team and say hey we've got a we have a salary cap problem why don't you uh why don't you give me a little extension here why Why don't we spread this money out? Give me some more guarantee. Yeah, they may get some up fronts there.

All right, Brooks, you threw in Super Bowl score predictions since this is our last show before the Super Bowl. Right now, San Francisco minus two has been the line. I think it's kind of stayed there. Am I wrong? I'm pretty sure the KC plus two has been. But it has been the 49ers favored, yes. I can't.

I'm going to go contrarian. For everybody I know on the planet is picking Kansas City. I do not think they win the football game. Well, not the betters. No, I know. But yes, yes, the better. Wait, no. The betters are picking San.

Wait, did you say everyone's picking San Francisco? I understand what the line is, but I'm saying everybody that I know is taking Kansas City plus two. So you're going contrarian with the favorite. The money is on Kansas City. Kyle's confirming that. KC Moneyline is the most popular bet right now. I am taking San Francisco to win the ball game. Okay.

I can't escape it. I just think they get it done this time. So that's my pick. You want to score? Yeah, I want to score. 27-24. Okay. Jay, what do you got? I've got 24-17 Chiefs.

I'm going 27-13 Kansas City. Yeah. Alright. There you go. See? I told you. I told you. Everyone in the world at this desk. I'm taking a big win. Alright. Quick break.

Come back with the truth. Alright. all right kyle we have you on the uh on the microphone today right correct you and bets i haven't heard your predictions for the game what are they we'll be giving them on the dfs oh Yeah. You'll be giving him for the second time. He's taking the Niners. You're taking the Niners. Yes. What's Betsy doing? I think Betsy's taking the Niners too. We got to fade the public. See, see my people. My people are with me. Okay. Okay. There it is. All right. Into the truth you can't handle the truth but more importantly uh heads or tails i think heads this year man he is contrarian you've you've heard what never fails. Yeah.

I mean, by the way, that implies you're the public. You two. I think you two are the public. That's fine. Because Kyle's fading you. Yeah. Now, Kyle always fades the public. Yes.

On all things. Yes. Right. He is a contrarian. Yes. He likes to zag. I guess Jason is the voice of public opinion, so that makes perfect sense. Yeah, go Chiefs. That's how your voice used to be back in about five or six years ago.

All right. The truth of the tight end position in 2023. I think this is one of the more fascinating episodes for the truth. We had the most tight end receptions in NFL history this past year, almost 2,700. And we kind of felt it. We did. In fact, I don't know if it got put into our show doc,

but I saw the top 10 performances at the tight end position this year in fantasy points. So, you know, big time fantasy production on a week-to-week basis. Eight different tight ends comprise the top 10 performances, which was Kelsey, Ingram, Kittle, Laporta, Hawkinson, Komet, Najoku and Andrews. So the most receptions ever. Twenty three percent of all completions went to the tight end position. You had a rookie emerge who is now going as the number one best ball tight end next year in Sam Laporta.

Not a lot of people picked that. Some people would have said, you know, they had their excitement about Dalton Kincaid before the season, not Laporta. And you had kind of a late career breakouts of Najoku and Ingrams continued. But you did not have touchdowns. And it was the fewest receiving touchdowns to the tight end position since 2011. And it was by a lot.

So Sam Laporta had 10 of them. No one else had more than six. Crazy. And so we had tons of receptions, PPR value players. You could count on like, like I think Ingram is kind of the best example of the season of the whole season at tight end position where like he was targeted like crazy,

especially in the second half, but the touchdowns, you know, there weren't, there weren't a lot of them yeah so I mean it's funny because if you just look at stat accumulation over the like the first three quarters of the season Evan Ingram had so many targets so many receptions and hadn't really been that good for fantasy like you know it's like it's it's almost like how can you do that touchdowns have always been the way that the tight end position becomes relevant on a week-to-week basis.

You're always looking for who's going to get the touchdown, and they just didn't come this year. I think that's an outlier, especially with the targets being up. Targets are more consistent than touchdowns year- year so I like the fact that there's some new blood in the NFL at the tight end position to to say okay maybe for fantasy purposes next year we we have more than just like a 1a and 1b and then garbage overall the targets for the tight end position were up but in the red zone where the action is at for scoring they were actually down where 2020 2021 about 30 percent of red zone targets went to the tight end position and that went down all the way to under 25 percent this year yeah it's wild and to Jason's point like I want to take a late tight end that's what I want

to do I don't want to be in the position where we finally have been in the past couple years where we're like, well, if you don't get A or B, you don't have one. So I'd rather have a handful. I mean, I think it's interesting. There are names next year like Kincaid, like Njoku, that are going to be, you know, I don't think Njoku is going to get moved way up draft boards because of the finish.

Not way up. So that'll be a player people can take a flyer on. If it continues, it's great. Ingram was a late pick this year. Still provided value week to week. You've got – Trey McBride. Yeah, Trey McBride is number three in basketball ADP right now.

Which is – that's wild. Let's calm that down. That's fun. We love it. I believe Mike, when he revealed this to us because yesterday he had his guests he said who's number one we go ah laporta and he's like yep who's number two kelsey yep and then we went through like 10 names it was like yeah three you know andrews and kincaid and kittle yeah no it was and then no joku and No, it was. And then Njoku. Nope. Nope. It was Trey McBride.

And then Mike said, quote, that's a problem. But, I mean, there are other tight ends, too, that we're not going to discuss because they had injuries and stuff. But, like, Darren Waller. Like, he's still going to be playing football next year. Sure. So, there's going to be some names. We're looking at the truth.

The metrics we're using for consistency include great games. That is 15 or more points at the position. Good games, eight or more. Bust games, fewer than five and a half. We don't count missed games towards consistency. But Sam Laporta finished the year as the number one tight end with a consistency rank of three. First half, consistency of three.

Second half, four. 59% good games, including starting his career at 12, 8, and 1 for the first three weeks, which I think blew everybody away. I believe I traded Sam Laporta in week four, before week four, in our league of record in a deal to acquire Travis Kelsey. And it was under the premise of, hey, let's cash in on what I viewed was unsustainable production from a rookie side end. And... Did you regret it you know yeah yeah i mean i i think production between kelsey and laporta it was you know it was similar for quite a while laporta finished the season so strong

i won the championship anyway so i didn't care things. Yeah. But I think my regret would have been much stronger had I not won. But 35% great games, only 18% bust. Great against good and bad defenses. Really good at home. 14.89 fantasy points at home, eight on the road. Makes sense to correlate to, you know, we talked about Jared Goff, how good he was at home, how good he was against the bottom half defenses. So it makes sense that he threw more touchdowns in those games. And that is, you know, you brought it up

earlier. Laporta had so many more touchdowns than anyone else at the position. That's why he finished number one. So the question in everybody's mind is going to be, I mean, I just revealed the truth of his consistency as a rookie, which he set tons of records, most receptions, most tied Gronk for the rookie tight end record. But should he be drafted as the tight end one next season? I think that's going to be our debate all offseason. Yeah, it will be. I probably will be out on that. This is not me saying I don't think Laporta is good. I think Laporta showed everyone he's got a, I mean, first of all, he's from tight end university. He's physically everything you want in a tight end, but then you've got the natural instincts of finding the open spot, leaking out at the right time, faking defenders.

Like he put it all together and he's worthy of being, like I assume next year he's going to have a good pick, but considering we only have one year and that he went to double digit touchdowns which is not necessarily we don't know if that's sticky for him um it'll be hard to invest how high he's going to be going and take him as the first tight end off the board because you would just assume well he was a rookie so he's going to be better that's not always what happens in the second year of players especially after a huge rookie sensation yeah I mean I think it i my personal opinion is stuff like this is probably more sticky at tight end um my i guess my question would be one is what does that equate to is the tight end one going off the board at the end of the second this year is it the top of the third

yeah it certainly won't be a first people aren't't going to spend a first-round pick on Laporta the way that Kelsey was the fourth or fifth pick this past season. So it'll be interesting. I'm probably with you in that regard, but of all the places where it can get sticky, I mean, tight end is one of them. That sounds like a weird sentence. That's just a weird sentence. That's just a weird sentence. I wish I said it differently.

But you didn't. Of all the places. Yeah. Of all the places. You had Jamison Williams miss the training camp. Beehives. The first part of the season. Movie theater floors.

And he's looked better as of late. So with an offseason next year, I think he'll be more involved, not be like that 40% snap player. I don't know that that makes a huge effect on LaPorta, but that's at least a path for targets to go elsewhere. Believe it or not, the number two tight end, and this is done by Total Fantasy Points Produced this year, not Fantasy Points Per Game.

So that's an important thing to note because this player finished at two, but in Fantasy Points Per Game he would have been six evan ingram evan ingram drafted as the tight end eight ends up at two in overall scoring 53 good 18 great 24 bust and you know the number was i mean 143 targets for 114 receptions. He was, what, two away from breaking the record? Breaking or tying. When you talk about values at the tight end position, Ingram was extremely

valuable for your team. I want to do this next year. I want to take the eighth tight end off the board. It is better for my team if you can identify the guy that's going to finish in the top three or four and draft them at eight or nine the eighth tight end off the board. It is better for my team if you can identify the guy that's going to finish in the top three or four and draft them at eight or nine off the board. That's a great pathway to success.

And a lot of people won late in the season with like David Njoku and things like that. So it lets me draft more of my Tuesday positions. That's my ideal situation. I want to find next year's Evan Ingram. That's going to be the goal. Super consistent. Not necessarily your week winner,

the way that Laporta would do it because he only scored four times. But at the very end of the year, it's been back-to-back seasons now where Evan Ingram from week 13 on has been pretty incredible for your team. Yeah, it's wild. All their players get injured through the year.

Well, it's like they forgot, oh, hey, we can go to this guy over and over and over. I don't think they forgot. No? No, because the targets were 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 7, 7, 7, 10, 7. They did it a little bit more at the end, but you had. That's what I mean. At the beginning of the season. He just scored.

He scored all four of his touchdowns from week 13 on. He never scored a touchdown before week 13. Give Ingram the ball. Good things happen. But they did. They did give him the ball. They gave him the ball. He was on 100 reception pace, and he had no touchdowns.

And we need more. Yeah. I mean, if all you care about is Evan Ingram, yes, you're right. He needs more. That's all I care about. But he correlated with Travis Etienne's touchdowns. Right. Etienne was touchdown heavy in the top half of the year.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, you can't have two players scoring the touchdown on the same play. You know, my only issue with Evan Ingram 26 percent of his total season's fantasy points came in two weeks came in that big monstrous explosion week against uh the Browns where he scored 27 points and then the last week you could tell at least yeah watching they're just trying to get him the record as they force feed him the ball. He was close. That's exactly. You guys have recorded that show where, Jason, you were debating whether they would go for it.

I was listening because I wasn't on that show. But when the record was that close, I 100% was on Mike's side because I was like, they're going to try to get him the record, which they really tried to. They really tried. They gave him 13 targets. The game became a problem for them, playoff-wise. But that was Week 18.

Nobody played. That didn't matter for your fantasy teams. They gave up on Calvin Ridley's target per outrun situation in the first half of the year, too. So that went up for Ingram when they said, okay, this guy's not consistent. And that was a big difference. So right now, I mean, here's my belief about Evan Ingram.

I believe that the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to invest a very, very important pick or free agent signing on a wide receiver that they want to be a big-bodied help for Trevor Lawrence. And I think that that will mean that this is the best year you've seen from Evan Ingram. Yeah, Evan Ingram is very mid to me, and that is how— You just threw a spike through Mike's heart. I mean, we're talking about the truth, right? The truth is he didn't bust a lot because he had so many targets.

He didn't help you win a lot either. He was just okay. That's what he was all season, didn't bust a lot because he had so many targets. He didn't help you win a lot either. He was just okay. That's what he was all season. Didn't miss a game. He was okay for the majority of the season. I think that that is excruciatingly fair because he did not have a top six finish in the first 12 weeks of the season at tight end. So if you're not in the upper half of your entire league scoring

for 12 consecutive weeks, you're not in the upper half of your entire league scoring for 12 consecutive weeks, you did not help. Yeah. I would disagree. If you go look through weekly rankings of who's actually in the top 10 and on a weekly basis, I don't have an actual number in front of you, but it's going to be littered

with guys who you didn't even think about starting because they had two catches for five yards and a touchdown. Where, over the first, like Evan Ingram, 7.4, this is half point scoring, 7.487, 10.2, 9.4, that's the whole first month. Like, those are numbers that I would take at the tight end position, especially where you drafted. Oh, you said that perfectly.

What? They're ones I would take. We'd all take them. I mean, that's what I said. He didn't bust, but he didn't really help you win either, so if that's what you're looking for, he wasn't bad. I'm not saying bad tight end. He was the number two tight end on the season. Your opponent wasn't DMing you

or texting you at the end of the week for the first 13 weeks and going, stupid Evan Ingram. He got me. That's fine fine he is an he is an important part of this offense I think even if they invest another great pick in a wide receiver obviously they're they're probably losing Calvin Ridley so I don't see that as a big change I think Evan Ingram next year is a lot of what he was this year which is an important part of their offense PPR dependent PPR dependent. PPR dependent.

And you just hope. I mean, touchdowns aren't sticky, right? He only had four this year. If he ends up with eight next year, he's going to end up as a good tight end. It's going to be his eighth year. Is that right? Let me look here. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

It will be his eighth year. Yeah, I mean, credit where credit is due. Finished at two in overall accumulation of stats. His career high in touchdowns is six in his rookie year. Yeah, I mean, credit where credit is due. Finished at two in overall accumulation of stats. His career high in touchdowns is six in his rookie year, 3-3-1, 3-4-4. Yeah, he's not a touchdown guy. The odds are not high there because that's not his – his makeup is too – he's a really agile. He's a short, scary guy.

Tight end. He's not Laporta. But got to give him credit. But we're just talking our opinion on the future. Travis Kelsey finished at three. This is interesting. Drafted as a tight end one.

His consistency rank was number one. I don't like it. His first half, number one. Second half, six. He still had, you you know i just talked about in the first 12 weeks evan ingram had zero top six finishes kelsey had one two three four five six seven so i got texts for seven different weeks where my opponent was like screw you and travis kelsey yes and that's what is very powerful in the position.

Now, the very end of the year was tough. 13, 14, 15, 16, and championship week, like the playoffs, this is the first time you were actively hurt by having Kelsey? Yeah, I mean, the actual three playoff weeks, he was the tight end 24, 21, and 37. Now, the rest of the season was so good that he ends up as, you know, the truth metric is number one. He was also number one in fantasy points per game. Yeah, I mean he

it really sucks because he was so much worse than you hoped. He was still Travis Kelsey and over the course of the season, the number one point per game tight end had so much greatness in the first half of the season.

Early on, it just seemed like, man, I was so right to get that number five pick, you know, spin that first rounder on Kelsey. But no one won a championship with him because of just the happenstance that the last three weeks of the fantasy playoffs were basically his three worst games of the season. Now, we have a Super Bowl to be played on Sunday, but he has been dominant in the playoffs. Yes, he has. If you look at the numbers, and I think it's very interesting

to look at the consistency numbers from Kelsey over the last three years, he's had basically the exact same percentage of good games. What is that number? Not 15 or more. Eight or more. Eight or more. So 75% in 2021, 76% last year, 73% this year. So those numbers stayed the same.

His bus percentage last year was zero. This year it's back up to 20. In 2021, it was 25. So last year was really wild. And his great game percentage last year was 53 that was insane yes this year 27 that's the 2021 was 38 so you kind of got a reversion to 2021 in some ways yeah i mean we we you know we said this it's hard to you know know it but like there's no way he was going to completely repeat the otter sheer domination. Otter? Yep. Otter.

Like the animal? Oh, he just hates otters. He dominates otters. What's wrong with otters? I love otters. This isn't a meat thing. This is a Travis Kelsey hates otters. I mean, everybody knows that. What do otters do? They swim.

But they're not the ones. See, I get otters. I get them mixed into the beaver category. And the beavers are building things. And the otters are what? Just swimming up to them and turning around? They're like buddies. But they're hanging out, right?

Yeah. Do they have big tails? I get them confused with seals. Otters? Yeah. Otters I think of as freshwater. An otter is small. Like a freshwater otter. An otter is small. Like a freshwater otter.

They're small and thin. Yeah, I'm looking it up. They're far smaller and cuter than I think. Are they in the ocean? No. No, they're... So seals, Jason, seals are in the ocean. That's the line you need to figure out.

I got to remember that. Thank you. The singer. All right. Travis Kelsey, next year, I think you're on the one-year rental plan. You're waiting for the expiration. You're on the Derrick Henry plan.

Where's he going to go? I think he'll still go pretty high in the draft, but Laporta will be the tight end one consensus, and then Kelsey will be there probably, what, third round, I'm guessing? Third round, Kelsey is going. No one will have the fortitude to pass on that. I don't think anybody. I don't even think.

So late second then? Late second, I wouldn't do it, but I think that's where he'll go. Okay. It's too tantalizing. The end of the season was just so destructive of your of all of our view on Travis Kelsey of but like people were like legitimately mad in fantasy football at Travis Kelsey who two week 14 was still having a fantastic year. It was three games for a player who has the most consistent record you could ever look to.

And so if he was, I'll put it this way. If he was 30 years old, you would not even, none of us would be talking about it. No. Three games, you would not even mention it. You'd be like, take him in the first round. You'd go, that sucked. So it's three games combined with being 34 years old that makes you think, oh, we're all sitting here with bated breath saying,

oh, when's he going to fall apart? That's why the playoffs matter to me. The fact he's dominated in the playoffs, he's probably going to be fine. He says he's not done playing. Yeah, he emphatically said that. He said he's loving this. Why would he ever walk away? I'll take him in the third.

Okay. If he's there. All right, let's take a break. Let's come back with a player that was dynamic, incredible, and now we're stuck wondering what's going to be. Number four, TJ hawkinson drafted as the tight end for fourth round pick first half of the year number four inconsistency started the year at number six number one and number eight great start 60 good 20 great which but that, which that's not too far off of where Kelsey was. But he didn't bust.

7% bust games, and then he got hurt, and then he tore his ACL, and then he didn't get surgery for a while because it just happened. So what are we hearing first on the injury front from Betsy? The injury front is basically the the timeline is such that you would expect him to start on the pup if he somehow um and he will be ahead of schedule because that he is right now yeah the the there is no player not ahead of schedule um if but if somehow he makes it to week one, you would expect that he would not be at 100 percent strength. I think it'll be really, really surprising if he doesn't start the season on the pop and you're dealing with an injured player who's just normal timeline.

After this surgery says he's not back until later in the season. Like I could see it being, you know, I think when we did the math on what is normal expected that would have been about Halloween from his surgery date let me ask you this because Hawkinson through the first 12 weeks would have also pushed the all time reception record he was on pace

for 113 so he would have been in the same boat as Ingram he also had 5 touchdowns in that span you give him another couple he would have been the the same boat as Ingram. He also had five touchdowns in that span. You give him another couple, he would have been the only other player above that six mark. We know if Kirk Cousins is back, this is a go-to receiver, and yet you have the injury.

So will he be a player that somebody is going to be willing to put on their bench for a while so that you have somebody potentially elite when they return, or do you not expect them to return to form immediately? And I would also bring up, like, over the first six weeks, you know, it started out okay, the tight end six in week one with, sorry, trying to pull up those points, it was seven and a half. So, as Jasonason would say that's not good enough yeah it didn't win you the week right didn't bust had a huge week two but then

like weeks three through six you know you had a four game span where he's just he's kind of okay his real dominant stretch there which was weeks uh seven through 12 let's Let's put it there. Those are no Justin Jefferson weeks. Like, he clearly benefited with the target share going up. You had eight games where he played with Jefferson, seven without, and 5.6 receptions with Jefferson. That jumps up to over seven. His touchdowns jump from, like,.25 up to almost a half a touchdown a game. I mean, so it's like there was a really big difference for Hawkinson,

and that was healthy Hawkinson when Justin Jefferson was out. Ham Hawk. Yeah, that is a – and that's kind of like a sneaky – if you're not paying attention to everything, you just look and go, oh, man, it took a little bit for, you just look and go, oh man, it took a little bit for Hawkinson to get going, but then he was great. When did they lose Cousins? They lost Cousins in week eight.

So really what you want to look at is those first five weeks. That's a crazy combo too. So the first five weeks, let's take a look at the first five weeks. And if you extrapolate that over the course of the season, what would he have done? He would have finished with 102 receptions okay which is great 863 yards which is awful on 100 plus receptions and 6.8 touchdowns basically averaging 10 fantasy points per game that's above average for sure um that's evan ingram i, exactly. Evan Ingram only had 963 yards on 114 catches. I think Ingram, let me just double check it,

but Ingram averaged 10.2 fantasy points. Yeah, so that's Evan Ingram. It's not as good as what you hope for. He's coming off of a very late injury, so you would expect when he's back. Is there a chance he's not drafted? I don't think so. If he starts the year on Pup?

Yeah, I mean, obviously in IR leagues, if you've got an IR spot, he's going to be one of your favorite, like, oh, round eight, round nine, take him and stash him. Might be later than that. Yeah, maybe. But I will say that if peak health, he's averaging 10.1 fantasy points per game, you would imagine right when he's back, I don't know, he takes a little hit. And if you're stashing a guy for eight fantasy points a game

when he comes back, it might not be worth it. George Kittle comes in at five, 30 years old, drafted as the tight end three, consistency rank of four. First half was fifth in consistency. Second half was second. The second most consistent tight end over the second half of the year. 38% great games. That's a huge number. It's higher than Kelsey. I believe, let me take a quick look. Is that higher than Laporta?

Laporta was 35, yes. Yes. So you talk about like hot, cold, red, green. It's what he's always been. It's always been maddening of knowing what George Kittle could do if he were unleashed, but that only happens some of the time. It's not every single week that you even have the chance that it's going to be a George Kittle game.

Three number one overall weeks at tight end, a number two, a number three. 38% bust, 38% great. Yeah, exactly. He's a roster construction question of like, do you want to have a week winning capability at tight end knowing that you will also get bust weeks that actively hurt you? Is that worth it at the tight end position?

And to me, that's a matter of what am I giving up where he's drafted. You know, when he's being drafted. You were out on him this year, 100%. I was out on him. He was in the fourth round. He was a fourth-round pick. And I felt like the players that you're selecting in the fourth are still really, really good.

Now, I mean, he helped people win a lot of weeks. I don't think it was necessarily a win or a loss to be out on Kittle this year because he was so boom bust. Well, let's go live to the field here. Okay. Brooksy. Yes, sir. George Kittle is your tight end in Dynasty.

Yeah. Is this correct? Yep. What was your vibe? How did it feel? What was the ride like? Are you buying tickets again? It was pretty good this year. Yeah, yeah. It's just nice to know that he is a guy you can put

in your lineup every time and he has that potential and he's going to deal with the rest. It's him versus Evan Ingram is the philosophical. Yeah, that is the what kind of deal with the rest. Him versus Evan Ingram is like the philosophical. Yeah, that is the what kind of fantasy player are you? Do you want to just, like Evan Ingram will be safer on a weekly basis, but his ceiling will never hit.

So let me ask you, what kind of player are you? I think I'm in the Kittle versus Ingram side. I would prefer Kittle to Ingram for sure. Yeah, ADP still matters. Exactly. You have to factor in what you're giving up, which is the whole reason I was out on George Kittle is not because I think he's bad. I would love to have a George Kittle. It's just, would you rather have a George Kittle on the fourth or an Evan Ingram in the eighth? The splits are wild, guys. I don't know if you saw the home road splits.

Oh my goodness. At at home he averaged over 15 points per game and on the road under seven wow so he's a hype man this is what you get he likes the crowd you get two tight ends is what you do and you just play george kittle when he's at home david no joke who came in at six, guys. He was sixth in consistency, but over the second half of the year, he was number one. Oh, man, that finish. He was so good.

Tied in two, two, three, three. Yeah, the last four weeks was an unbelievable finish, but really from week seven on, which is crazy, right? Seven on, he was just unbelievable. Yeah. Seven on, he was just unbelievable. 9.2 targets per game in that stretch,

six plus receptions in six of the final seven games. Had to deal with four quarterbacks over the course of the entire year and yet delivered really an impressive, meaningful fantasy finish. First and yards after catch I mean he caught every crossing route he caught he would just run wild he was really hard to tackle for these guys and and the neat thing about him he's a big strong guy that can break tackles but oftentimes when he caught the ball it wasn't him breaking tackles it's him just running away from guys uh he's a supreme athlete he's still very young even though he's been in the league this will this upcoming season will be his eighth like evan ingram they came in together but he was drafted as like a 12 year old man child uh back eight years ago so it's neat to see him

break out i think his breakout was so dominant that as an organization as a coaching staff you say how can we get him part of this game focal point of the offense I will be much more in on him than um than I I thought I would be based on how he played with Sean Watson because he wasn't as good with Watson. You know, he dealt with four theoretically inferior quarterbacks than Voldemort later in the season, but he was better with them. You're talking seven fantasy points. He was better with Flacco, right? Yes.

Yeah, but I mean, he was good even in non-Flacco games. 10.6 fantasy points per game without Deshaun Watson, 7.1 fantasy points with Deshaun Watson. Yeah, I'd be curious what those numbers were non-flacko. The month run where he gave you what Kyle's showing, the fifth best final four-game span for a tight end over the last decade, where he was 2-2, 3-3. Those were all Joe Flacco games. So that's the real question, Jason, that you laid out.

Did he force the organization to figure something out? Because it will still take a bit of a leap of faith. The dominance, none of the dominance was with Watson. He had 123 targets this year, which was more than 30 above his career high. And the dude burnt his face off. He had 23. That's right. We forgot about that.

He had 23 receptions. That's a man. More than his career high. He had his career high in receiving yards. He had his career high in receiving touchdowns. I do think he. And he burns his face off. I do think he created himself as a focal point of this offense.

Okay. I can't imagine you do what he did down the stretch and you come into the next season where you really do need weapons still. You've got Cooper, but Elijah Moore showed he's just not that guy. They don't have another guy. It's those two. Most annoying players in the NFL. Elijah Moore is on the upper.

Let me ask you this. No draft consideration. You just have to put one of them on your team next year and lock them in your tight end spot. George Kittle, David Njoku. No draft cost. I'll take Kittle. end spot. George Kittle, David Njoku. No draft cost. I'll take Kittle. I'll still go Kittle.

Okay. Just wanted to see where that buzz was. Cole Komet finished at seven. Look at that. Consistency rank of 11. First half of the year, he was seventh in consistency. Second half, 18 against all odds. Busted 29% of the time.

Good 41%. great 12%. Honestly, I feel like Cole Komet was one of the least talked about players in fantasy this past year. Yeah. Because the lows at times were very low, dealt with some injury, so people didn't play him even on weeks when he did perform. Like the Arizona game, you know, he was banged up going into it. Ends up at number five on the week.

I don't know how many people had him in the lineup. Justin Fields missed time, saw a ton of red zone targets, and honestly, the Cole Komet discussion, I feel like we have to just tell you what happened and then wait to have the discussion. We don't know who the quarterback's going to be. We don't know if they're going to invest. They have two high picks.

So if you tell me next year they're going to invest they have two high picks so if you tell me next year you're going in with you know caleb williams and roma dunzey right right colt commit is we're probably gonna be out i i believe the important takeaway from colt commit um even though he he wasn't a great fantasy asset this year from how things played out. He still actually impressed me on the field film wise. He had some big boy man style catches, especially around the end zone. And so, yeah,

we don't know what, what the entire organization looks like going next year, what his target competition is. But I rose on Cole Komet. I rose a little bit in just how I think of him as a player, as a talent. And so, I mean, that's really the only thing you can do right now is judge, do you think he's good? Do you think he's talented? Do you think he's capable if given the opportunity? Or is he just a guy? And I went more from just a guy to I think he's pretty talented. Jake Ferguson at eight, 25 years old, was not drafted,

so he was a great value. He's the guy I'm going to be drafting next year everywhere. Interesting. I think he'll be left for dead or at least be like the tight end 10. He'll be in the late rounds. I don't even know how i it's good to hear that because i don't know how to think about him i really don't like jake ferguson is he like focal point is not the word i'm ever going to relate to jake ferguson well not when you got

cd lamb well yeah and i i just feel like um he was actually just feels like the guy you end up eventually throwing the ball to is how it felt. Yeah, I mean, he had 102 targets, and I can say that I had this experience. It wasn't always great, but I had Ferguson for a lot of the season in our primary league, and I'd pay attention and be watching those games, and high-value targets were there. 25 red zone targets that led to tight end position. Yeah, I mean i he was looked

to and it didn't always connect it didn't always work and maybe that's just how it will forever be but when i watched i was like i am happy to have this role in dax team that's basically how i view it cheap ingram yeah cheap ingram exactly and in terms of just somebody you lock in every week and you're like I've got my tight end position figured out it might not win me the week but I can go find my upside else exactly right and it costs you nothing and I think there's higher touchdown upside with Ferguson who got red zone targets and versus Ingram who's never scored touchdowns, and give me Dak over, give me expensive Trevor Lawrence this year. It was. Very nice.

It was essentially, it was Ferguson's first year as a starter. His rookie season, he played 37% of the snaps. He had 22 targets. So he was put into a role as a second-year player that he can still get better as an actual player. Now the Cowboys did take Luke Schoonmaker, a.k.a. the Schoonman, in the second round this past year. Eight receptions as a rookie.

Yeah. I'm not saying that the Schoonman is definitely coming for Ferguson's job, but at least there is a high draft capital pick who could be in competition. I think Ferguson, it's his job. So I'm more on Jason's side of, like right now, tight end 10 in basketball, touchdown upside every single week. He's an interesting player. It seems like there's a role in Dallas' offense is to be the tight end 8 to 10.

Dalton Schultz the year before was the tight end 10. Ferguson ends up a tight end 8. Old man Witten was always still there. Yeah, it's not going to be prolific, but it's not going to let you down. At number 9, we have much more excitement. It's Trey McBride. Trey McBride finished at 9, consistency of 10, but in the second half was a consistency of 3.

He took over. Zacherts was waived. His pace from week six on was 103 receptions, over 1,000 yards, and four touchdowns. Well, in the first five weeks, he was barely a part of this. Barely a part of this offense when Zacherts was there. He played 39% of the snaps in the first five weeks. And basically, he had a grand total.

Let me count them here through those weeks. Eight receptions through five weeks. And then he was like, hey, let's get that guy on the field. The worry I have with Trey McBride is the draft price. And I agree. So the worry I have with Trey McBride is the draft price. And I agree. It was a prolific week six on, but 100 receptions, 1,000 yards, four touchdowns.

Will Arizona score a lot next year? What is the potential touchdown totals for Trey McBride? Trey McBride next year or David Njoku, no draft consideration. Easily Trey McBride. Trey McBride. So there you go. Just because of the PPR value, you think he's going to catch more passes? And the quarterback. Yeah, so once Kyler returned, he was on pace for 112, 1143 yards.

Still only four touchdowns, but the touchdowns can go up. It's just the fact that Trey McBride can take over games. We'll see how the NFL draft goes. The chalk of the draft right now is Marvin Harrison Jr. ends up as an Arizona Cardinal. And by all the chatter out there, he is essentially a day one alpha. You just put him out there, and that's what the draft people are saying about Marvin Harrison.

But even if that happens, if Trey McBride is clearly the number two target for the Arizona Cardinals and a player who can actually take over, where most tight ends can't take over a game, that's what the interesting thing is that's why people are drafting him as we said as the tight end three right now in best ball because the upside is massive but he is going to he's one of my favorite players right now but that is a that's a rich adp you're making a really really big bet yeah and this isn't a player that came out of nowhere it last year he was a rookie tight

end he did nothing um but he was the first drafted nfl tight end uh around two pick around not just round two he was pick number oh he's destined for great he's destined for this show t mcbee so i yeah i uh i like his talent, his opportunity, and his breakout. Kittle or McBride? McBride. Dalton Schultz finishes at 10 for the second consecutive year. He was last year's tight end 10. He's this year's tight end 10.

You know, pretty good season, pretty good run, had some injuries. But if you look at, you know, if you isolate it a bit to weeks 4 through 12 it was a really good run he was a consistency rank of eight he he got it done i don't know how involved he was on a lot of fantasy squads but from weeks four through 11 he was the tight end three in fancy points per game and cj stroud obviously elevated everybody in houston 47 good 13 great 13% great, 40% bust. It's TBD because Dalton Schultz was on a one-year deal, so we'll see where he actually ends up. I believe, right?

Yes, he is. Baby, come back. It seems like Dallas is what I'm hearing. No, I'm just kidding. It seems like this is a situation where the team and the player can work it out i mean if he comes back i'm very interested if he goes somewhere else and doesn't have cj stroud no it's so it's so funny because you just said what you said last year yes you you were like if he comes back to dallas i'm very interested if he goes to houston with a rookie

quarterback not interested in dalton schultz the truth is is he's the easy. I don't blame the process. He's the quarterback's best friend. I remember being the one fighting you guys a little bit about Dalton Schultz this past offseason. Yeah, and by the end of week three, me and Jay were just. Yeah, you were singing songs. We were burying him into the ground. 12 was Mark Andrews.

Just some other names to throw out there. Mark Andrews was number two in consistency. Mark Andrews is still great. Mark Andrews, very good. I will mention I believe Isaiah Likely is very good. That was part of the discussion before the season.

Isaiah Likely is a... Isaiah Likely was alone in Baltimore. Oh, yeah. He finished the year at 4-4, 2-8. That was fantasy finishes. Like, we would be, he'd be inside the top six. Yes. So, when you have a player that is 23 years old emerging,

and then you have a player that has not been necessarily able to always stay on the field, even though he is very, very good, I just want that conversation to be in the back of your head. Mark Andrews finished at 4-5,1-4 before this year with the injuries. Points per game-wise, he was right there again. Yeah, he was 11.3. Travis Kelsey was 11.5. So, you know, I don't know if you're going to factor Isaiah Likely

into anything next year or not. I don't know if that'll be like a difference maker if you're like right on the edge with two players. If you're sitting Trey McBride and Mark Andrews, he's likely going to factor into you. I don't think so. I think likely will be involved, but I don't think it necessarily siphons away from Andrews.

I think it's just a newer weapon in the offense. They have a real wide receiver problem with Bateman and Odell Beckham Goddard came in at 14 consistency of 15 really a lost year for Goddard and maybe maybe we retire him yeah I think he you know it's it's not always you know there's hot and cold and then there's Goddard which is like it's not red light, green light. It's like red light, red light, red light, green light. Red light, red light, yellow light, red light, green light. Yeah, there's a lot of yellow.

A lot of yellow lights there. Which is just enough to get through. He's following in the footsteps of Zacherts for the Eagles, which has become a guy who can catch the ball and fall down. You mean old Zacherts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Young Zacherts for the Eagles was a is become a guy who can catch the ball and fall down. You mean old Zachers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Young Zachers for the Eagles was a better footsteps to step in. Absolutely.

He's following the footsteps because younger Dallas Goddard was really good for a while. And then it's like, yeah, I'm just going to catch the ball three yards from here and then get five yards on the play. Yeah, I mean, honestly, this is year. This will be year seven for Dallas Goddard. He's never finished above 10 at the tight end position. And he's never – this was his – would you believe it's his career high in receptions? Because it was.

That's insane. Yeah, so, I mean, he never broke out. Right. Goddard just – we waited for it. He was an anticipatory draft pick. He did not break out. And his draft capital, you spent – he was a tight end seven off the board. You had to invest a six-round pick to get him,

which is high enough to where you probably put him in your lineup and weighted and low enough to where, you know, I don't know. Massive, massive. He's a huge break. Not bust. He's the third receiving option for a team that doesn't have a ton of passing volume, and the first and second option are their elite. So much better.

It's not just good wide receivers on the Eagles. It's top-tier elite players. So it makes sense that he would never really get the breakout. This season did not make sense to me of how they were utilizing him, so we'll see if after they're shifting some things up with the offense, maybe we get some hope. But in draft season, I can't imagine I will be calling for it. You know, if he follows the Ingram-Njoku year seven plan.

Yeah, this is the year. All right, a couple mentions here at the end. We'll have a Tuesday show with our Super Bowl reactions, some mailbag to talk through, any news. Maybe we'll reflect on Kelsey's performance in the Super Bowl and what we think then. The UDK presale starts on Sunday. That's ultimatedraftkit.com.

You'll want to head over there on Sunday. It is the lowest possible price for the Ultimate draft kit and the UDK Plus comes with the Dynasty Pass with a ton of tools and resources. Did you guys want to talk about that? Yeah, I did. We have been really scouring through our Dynasty rankings, setting those up, all of our startup rankings, our rookie rankings, getting everything ready for Super Bowl Sunday. And it's just on my mind so much because we're living in this. Even going through these tight ends, I'm thinking about how they rank in dynasty, and all that information will be available on Super Bowl Sunday so you can take a look at all the values, the trade targets, the rankings,

so that you can go make your early dynasty trades and take advantage of those who don't have that resource. There are three updates to the Dynasty Pass every year, which is the pre-combine release on Sunday, the post-combine, and the post-NFL draft. All of our rookie rankings, dynasty rankings, college production profiles, rookie mock drafts, and a whole lot else.

Team opportunity pages are awesome. Yeah, team opportunity pages showing what every team is going to need this offseason as you prepare. It's a great resource to know what dynasty assets to potentially trade away before teams fix problems and make you, you know, suddenly you're like, well, okay. Didn't expect that, but now, you know, Kenneth Walker is not as valuable or whatever the case may be. So you can watch the show over on YouTube. A reminder, subscribe over on youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers. Click the bell. It's a nice little wave by Jason.

Yeah. Oh, there's a wave to YouTube. It was very coy. So yeah, fantasy hitman's trade targets is part of the Dynasty Pass as well. Yes, sir. Sunday, we'll send out some emails. We'll let you know on social media. Follow us over there at the FFBallers.

That'll do it for today's episode of the show. Thank you for joining us. Enjoy the big game. I hope it is a good time. Enjoy your food, everyone. Goodbye. enjoy your food everyone goodbye thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community

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