Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy WRs + Goober Alert! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/30

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

The TRUTH is scary sometimes! On today’s fantasy football podcast, a close look at the top 10 wide receivers from the 2024 season. Find out which final stat lines are the most deceiving! Consistency... scores, boom/bust percentages, and tons more. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for January 30th, 2025. (00:00) - Intro (04:40) - NFL News (08:25) - The TRUTH: Wide Receivers (12:05) - Ja’Marr Chase (16:35) - Justin Jefferson (18:30) - Amon-Ra St. Brown (22:50) - Brian Thomas Jr.  (29:25) - CeeDee Lamb (34:20) - Terry McLaurin (38:05) - Malik Nabers (42:55) - Jaxon Smith-Njigba (53:50) - Drake London (55:40) - Davante Adams & Garrett Wilson (01:00:50) - Fantasy Faceoff Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Fantasy Faceoff presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Spotify, this is Javi. My biggest passion is music, and it's not just sounds and instruments. It's more than that to me. It's a world full of harmonies with chillers. From streaming to shopping, it's on Prime. Calling all sellers, Salesforce is hiring account executives
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Starting point is 00:01:20 Jason Moore. Mike the Fantasy Hitman. I'm Andy Holloway. You know we're recording over here, Jay. Oh I know, I know, but. Over here on your phone. I'm, look. Are you researching? Candy Crush? Yes, look, I'm just playing a little, no, I'm,
Starting point is 00:01:37 you know, we've got our PixX lineup today, you know? And I just wanted to, you know, go ahead and. Are you gonna lock it in? I'm locking it in, I'm putting it where my mouth is, you know, I'm saying Yeah, that's yeah a smart thing to do. Mr Mr. King. Oh Yeah, I hope that you put one in on yours as well. Mr. King. Yes. Yes, I did. Yes It's always nice when Mike loses at something. He's been on such a hot streak. He needed that giant head to become giant.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Little, yeah, just regular giant. It's just half, half loss. I know. It's a half loss, half win. You're not a full. So nothing. I thought you won too, because you lost on Josh Allen not getting a rushing
Starting point is 00:02:17 touchdown, which he did, but they actually stopped him. Welcome into the show, January 30th the truth about the wide receiver position as we continue our truth series episodes NFL news to talk about. Got a big big Pro Bowl primer. No we don't no we don't. Oh man we were looking through some of the. If Russell Wilson makes the Pro Bowl, I don't have a primer episode. It is so, the Pro Bowl in the NFL is so broken. It's not broken, it's just stupid. It's just worthless and dumb.
Starting point is 00:02:57 The only purpose that it serves is to hit like bonuses on contracts. Right. I make the Pro Bowl, I get this. They should literally just go down the list and be like, who's got a Pro Bowl bonus? Give it to that guy so that he can get his contract. Because no one's watching. Well, you only get the bonus if you are alternates.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It doesn't give you the bonus. Oh, really? Yeah. So Tyler Huntley got nothing? No. Well, I mean, he got to put Pro Bowl on his resume. Put all the bonuses in one of those big Scrooge McDuck things, and then bring all the Pro Bowlers there there and they all dive in and claim their bonuses.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Oh, like a Hunger Games piggy bank? I'd watch that. That's more of a Squid Game. I mean, would you rather watch the Pro Bowl or the Hall of Fame game? I would rather watch probably the Pro Bowl. And I do, please don't hear what I'm not saying. I do not want to watch the Pro Bowl. The energy around the Hall of Fame game,
Starting point is 00:03:45 even if the players aren't out there, is better because the season's about to start. I'm more excited during that time of the year than during Pro Bowl weekend, but I just feel like, I think if the three of us were to be given the keys to how to fix it, we could do it. We could come up with the events that we enjoy, watch, that we're like, I wanna see who's got the strongest arm.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Like way back in the day, they did that. Yeah, they did. They had like, let's get- Rep Favre throwing it deep. Yeah, it's like, let's, I wanna see Josh Allen and Anthony Richardson get next, you know, get in that little lineup and you can't move past this line.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Who can throw it further? That's awesome. Bring that back. Yeah, I'm interested in that. But a lot of the games they have now, they're just goofy and dumb. And hey, NFL, you can afford to incentivize these guys to go. Right, because everybody turns it down.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah. I'm a little injured or I just don't wanna go or I was playing late into the season. So you don't get Lamar Jackson, you don't get Josh Allen, you don't even get Bo Nicks. You don't get anybody from the Super Bowl now with how it's positioned. But I'm saying-
Starting point is 00:04:49 No matter what, which kind of seems, I have the best players in the league except for the best players in the league. Like they make, I think they increase revenue by billions every year. At least I'm looking at a, in 2023, the NFL generated $20 billion, which is up two billion
Starting point is 00:05:06 from the previous year. You can figure out how to get your superstars to this event, otherwise let's just stop it. Let's just do a slam dunk contest. Oh, see that would be fun. See? Oh, NFL players doing this? Yes, NFL, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Slam dunk contest? Well that's not what this show's about though. So we have the fantasy face off on today's episode as well, but let's start with some news. News and notes from around the league presented by USAA insurance. Back on the phone. I'm doing the same thing, man. Cliff Kingsbury will stay in Washington, not interview for the Saints' head coaching job, which is also true of Mike McCarthy, who will focus on the 2026 hiring cycle.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I really liked at least how it was reported. And again, this is alleged. This has been reported that basically how it went was the Saints didn't really seem interested in Mike McCarthy, so he pulled out. It's like you can't dump me. I break it up with you. Once all the teams turn him down he's going to focus on the next year. It also is, I don't know if that's how Mike McCarthy said or if that's just the way it's being reported. But the coaches, I have to imagine, being a head coach, there's a bit of a fraternity,
Starting point is 00:06:26 a bit of a union of like, for sure. You're doing a job that very few other people have done. And if you're like Mike McCarthy, you're like, I'm gonna focus on next year, cause some of y'all are getting fired. And I'm gonna be there when you get fired and I'm gonna take that job.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Well, it's, yeah. It's just math and it's truth. It works yeah. But I was just saying like the wording is. Well he was at the, he also got a little bit unfortunately timed with the way the Cowboys handled the, all the negotiations are still going. The Cowboys did that? So here's the deal to me, the leading front-runner to become the head coach for the Saints appears to be Kellen Moore, who is the Eagles offensive coordinator right now. And we have had success, Shane Steichen, failure with the next offensive coordinator, bringing up what they had, success with Kellen Moore. And so that would be the headline to me, right?
Starting point is 00:07:26 In part. Is the Eagles losing Kellen Moore? And then Kellen Moore brings, you know, ingenuity to the offense. So maybe the Saints can do something. But yeah, McCarthy, it said he was supposed to interview on Friday, but he, he decided 2026 is his year. Okay. The Saints are over the cap by $50 million.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So that is number one in the league. Not always the best spot to be in for a head coach coming in. Maybe that factored in as well. The Lions have hired Broncos passing game coordinator, John Morton, to be their new offensive coordinator. He is 55 years old. He's primarily been an assistant offensive guy or a wide receiver coach. I believe he was a wide receiver in the NFL back in the day but the this hire was because back in 2022 with this
Starting point is 00:08:21 regime with Dan Campbell he was part of the Detroit Lions as a senior offensive assistant so they know him they've worked with them obviously they believe in him as they're bringing him in this will be the first time he has been an OC you know play caller it's gonna be a pretty big change going from Ben Johnson all right and then we did get one report that tight-end Eric all jr. expected to miss all of 2025 due to complications from his ACL surgery. That stinks. It's a bummer. He was, I mean it wasn't like a full breakout, but like he was putting up enough noise of like, hey this is a player that we need to pay attention to. That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. It's time for the truth! You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers? I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
Starting point is 00:09:26 You know with your current hairstyle Jay if you go down to more of like a goatee Uh-huh, I think John Morton is in the Halloween Yeah, if you can pull that off. I know that big time. He really needs to elevate his name right now I'd be kind of aiming down So Morton, let's you know, maybe you don't like Morton If you're talking the salt Morton's salt is just fine. I'm just saying, you know, he you don't like Morton. If you're talking the salt, Morton's salt is just fine. I'm just saying, you know, he doesn't really. That's his salt. Well, then now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Why is he working? Just for the love of the game. Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people are hearing John Morton's name for the first time. I'm going, that dude is 80,000 years old. Morton sounds like the oldest name to me. It's his last name. Yeah, I was going to say his name is John. It doesn't matter. There has to be a Morton Morton sounds like the oldest name to me. It's his last name. Yeah, I was gonna say his name is John.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It doesn't matter. There has to be a Morton Morton out there though. I don't think there has to be. I don't think this. This show's dumb. All right, the truth of the wide receiver position. We have had the opportunity to talk through quarterbacks, talk through the running back position.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I encourage everybody who did not hear those episodes, scroll down on your podcast player. Take a listen if you want. Some general trends for the wide receiver position, not the wide end. That's a new, I'm inventing that one. That's a different position. I think the interesting thing for me or for the landscape of the NFL, we've been doing the show for a long time. We have seen a movement recently to a lot of plays behind the line of scrimmage. We have a high percentage of
Starting point is 00:10:55 targets in that 10 to 19 yard range, or maybe more prominently, we have the lowest percentage of 20 plus yard targets that we have seen since before 2018 over the past year, the fewest percentage of targets, 20 plus air yards downfield that we've ever had. Which makes me sad. Yeah, it is unfortunate. There was all, it coincided with more rushing attempts this year, it feels like as the NFL has, you know, five, six years ago.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah, are we getting this, are we getting the swing back? Yeah, it feels like we're swinging because you got, you know, five, six years ago. Yeah, are we getting this? Are we getting the swing back? Yeah, it feels like we're swinging because you got, you know, more safety is deep, and you've got smaller, lighter defenders who are quicker to guard these smaller, lighter wide receivers. So it's like, hey, remember when we had those, you know, running backs that were just awesome and really valuable?
Starting point is 00:11:41 You know, now this season you saw that happen to great success. Yeah, there's always the punch, counterpunch, offense, defense, and the NFL. So yeah, you could be right. We're seeing more of those short area targets of late. We saw 24 total receiving touchdowns on behind the line of scrimmage targets, which is more than the last two years combined. Kind of interesting. Thanks Josh Allen. Well yeah I mean it does work. It's been working. Xavier Worthy caught a lot of passes in that area of the field. So we are looking at the truth of the
Starting point is 00:12:16 wide receiver position. General reminder for everybody out there we calculate the truth looking at the 17 games of fantasy football relevance. We look at their consistency, the players consistency based on how many great games, what percentage of those for wide receivers that's 20 or more points. Half PPR. Good games 12 and a half or more points. Bust games fewer than seven and a half points is how we are breaking down consistency. Not a surprise as we kick things off, but number one, Jamar Chase, number one in fantasy finish, number one in consistency. First half was number four, second half was number one
Starting point is 00:12:57 overall and was drafted as the wide receiver four off the board. But finally, finally delivered on the on the reasoning of why you always took him where you took him. Yeah, I mean, he had an all-time season. This was. The triple crown winner. Right, so Jerry Rice, Sterling Sharpe, Steve Smith, and Cooper Cutback of 2021, only other guys
Starting point is 00:13:20 who have led the league in all three of the major wide receiver categories. 17-plus touchdowns, that's only the third time in the last 30 years. Randy Moss, Devontae Adams, the only other two guys to do it. Randy Moss has done it three times by himself. That's why they call him Mossin dudes because he's his own thing.
Starting point is 00:13:39 But that's what Jamar Chase was this year. He was, you know, defenses couldn't stop him. You double team him, it doesn't matter. And T Higgins being on the field is good for Jamar Chase. 31% great game. So 20 more points, 31% of the time, 75% good games, 6% bust. So he had really one bust game during the entire year was eight points better against bottom 16 passing defenses. It's pretty even home-road splits actually a little bit better on the road and like you said led the league in receptions receiving yards touchdowns. It was a monster gap between the gap is huge between the wide receiver one and the wide receiver two so So yes, he finished at one,
Starting point is 00:14:25 but having Chase and having Jefferson, there was a difference. To give you an example of how large a difference Jamar Chase is. So Jamar Chase in half PPR averaged 20 fantasy points per game. Number two was Justin Jefferson who averaged 15.6. That's the largest gap between wide receiver one
Starting point is 00:14:44 and wide receiver two since 2018 but the gap between Jamar chase at 20 and Amari Cooper at seven point two fantasy points per game Yeah, it is the biggest gap that anyone has ever seen in a trade in the League of Record Which I will never let die Amari Cooper for Jamar Chazen. It wasn't fair. Okay. Would you rather have 7.2 fantasy points per game or 20?
Starting point is 00:15:13 No, sometimes you move a guy right before they become Brooklyn. useless in the NFL. Brooklyn. Trade on news. Trade away on news. We've said that for years. I just wanted to prove it to you. Yeah, hype news. Hype news. We've said that for years. I just wanted to prove it to you.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, hype news where it's like, what could be? If you got a guy with all the hype could be. Might be a boat. Might be a boat. Trade him for a boat. Because that's what you did the day that he was, you know, Amari Cooper was trading the bills. Hard to remember now how excited people were.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh, I was very excited when that happened. Considering how bad. I think it's time for Amari Cooper to the bills. Oh, I was very excited when that happened. Considering how bad. You can start with Amari Cooper to the pills. Oh, people were very excited about, Amari Cooper had had like an up and down start to the year, finished last year super strong. And you know, I had sent some trade offers, chasing some picks for Cooper, got them,
Starting point is 00:15:59 I got them completely rejected multiple times. I tried to craft all these different deals. And then the news happened. It just timed up miraculously. The news happened and the same deal comes back to me. And that's, you know, people were grasping for Josh Allen to have his Stefan Diggs. And it's not like we didn't,
Starting point is 00:16:17 we hadn't seen that in Buffalo before where one guy puts up prolific numbers. What's crazy is Allen, who we talked about on the Truth episode with quarterbacks, still had prolific numbers. It just didn't go to one guy. And Marty Cooper might be toast. Great news for Jamar Chase. We've already had these four years, now including this truly elite season, and dude is not 25 yet. Are you serious? Man, I'm going to keep him for a while, Jay. Yeah, you should, and if you're in a dynasty league,
Starting point is 00:16:47 never let him go. I won't. I was really saying that thing, that age, that was me looking in the mirror going, oh no. You did great work, Mike. It's so good. You look good today, Mike. So good you lost, Mike. I was just thinking that about the League of Record with you.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I was like, snakes, so happy you lost. We're two of the only people on the planet with Jamar Chase that didn't win our title games. And I am thrilled about it. Because you're talking dynasty time. All right, Jefferson came in at two. You just mentioned him. He was actually number two in consistency as well.
Starting point is 00:17:21 So the top two, no big surprises there. There were some bumps in the road. 13% bust games, 19% great. So didn't have as many high end games. 75% good though, that match is Jamar Chase. Yeah, in the second half of the season, he was still very good. Had big games, was the number one wide receiver
Starting point is 00:17:41 in round two of the playoffs for the week. But he also had a handful of worse games. I don't know if that is all Sam Darnold or, you know, what it was. I'm gonna take a huge L on Justin Jefferson personally in the draft season. Now I still had him at the back of the first. I'm not like not drafting him in the first,
Starting point is 00:17:58 but I said I did not think he had the ability with, you know, with Sam Darnold, and really at the time during the draft season for a long time. It was J.J. McCarthy to be able to score enough touchdowns to be top five. He was guaranteed to be top 12 because he might be the best wide receiver in the league. He just showed that he can elevate the quarterback play. At his age, also 25, Mike, this is a player who just looks like he's quarterback proof the last two years with our truth metrics 53% 40% great
Starting point is 00:18:32 games this year down to 19% it's actually the lowest of his career and yet had the highest percentage of games that met that good or better standard of twelve and a half points so I look if I had to pick a year, I'd pick a different year than this year, personally. Yeah. But consistency wise, he did. He didn't end up being Justin Jefferson. He was better at home, pretty even against both types of, you know, top end bottom end defenses.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And, uh, look, we don't have to tell you he's going to be really good and dropped it very high for a very very very long time. Amon Ross St. Brown was drafted as the wide receiver five finishes the wide receiver three consistency rank of four first half it was eight second half it was four sixty three 63% good games, 6% bust, 19% great, and part of the best offense in football. Yeah, I mean he had the lowest bust rate in the league, tied with Jamar Chase at 6%. That's really what, when you draft Amon Ross St. Brown, you're drafting a player for the best floor out there. He's just, you know, he's the clear one.
Starting point is 00:19:46 You can't stop his type of routes. Like, Jamar Chase has had games where he really disappears in the past. Not so much this season, but he has had games where the opposing defenses, they just really key in on him, take him out of the game, make it come elsewhere. I don't know the types of routes that Amon Ross St. Brown is running
Starting point is 00:20:04 that you can really You just can't you know you're not gonna be double teaming the slot on a little in breaking route You just can't get another guy there a little bit of a baby CD situation where you're moving all over the field Always going to be a go-to guy in the red zone and go go to gun first down scored 12 times 115 catches This was this was a really spectacular year. I don't want the performances of Chase and Jefferson to somehow take away from how good Amon Rah is on a weekly basis.
Starting point is 00:20:36 115 catches is outrageously good. And he will not be someone that I have concerns about the OC change. I think they're very valid and fair questions to be like, how good will golf be? Jameson Williams, the breakout. We got a new, like, Amon Rathow, I won't have any, I won't need to give any discount in ADP just at price.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Yeah, sometimes players, it's them, and sometimes it's Scheme, sometimes it's both. For instance, on the Dynasty show a couple weeks ago, I was talking about Jalen McMillan, a second half rookie breakout, and maybe you call your shot and try to get him now, and when we looked at the tape, I didn't think he was bad by any means,
Starting point is 00:21:19 but it wasn't him toasting guys, it was just these schemes that just kept getting him open. It was the second wide receiver across from Mike Evans for this Liam Cohen system. Liam Cohen leaving. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh!
Starting point is 00:21:33 Oh! Oh! But Klan, if you have not seen, you have to. If you haven't seen, then you're just not on social media. How do we not have that clip already? Oh, we'll get it. Seriously, we gotta put that on the sound board. If we can take it, if we can handle it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Can we get it? The board might explode. I cringe into my body when Liam Cohen is saying his Duval, what a goober, man. What an absolute, I've never seen a goober like this before. You had the pew, pew, pew from John Gannon
Starting point is 00:22:03 a couple years ago and you're like, oh, that guy's a nerd that guy's a superhero awesome marine I mean John Gannon is that's a man's man I can't believe like I'll be honest I never sat there and watched interviews with Liam Cohen almost does Riz face you know you see you see a press coverage here there but I didn't know Liam Cohen. Almost does Riz face. You know, you see a press coverage here or there, but I didn't know Liam Cohen's personality. You can watch one word. I know too much now.
Starting point is 00:22:30 One word from this man, and you know his personality. And it's like, how did he get hired as a head coach? Anyways, I was saying something else, don't remember. But can we get a podcast of him and Russ? Oh man, oh, that would be. Would that be the end of the world? I think people would have to listen to it with their fingers in their ears.
Starting point is 00:22:51 You know what I mean? How you watch a movie that's embarrassing through your fingers. Like a scary movie? Yeah, exactly. I remember what I was saying. Unlimited. Yeah, you're close.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I think what you were looking for was. Unlimited diarrhea. Unlimited diarrhea, unlimited. Anyways, so when Liam Cohen leaves, I worry a little bit more about McMillan because it was a scheme thing. With Amon Ross St. Brown, the offensive coordinator changed. The in-sync go-to quick targets
Starting point is 00:23:18 that are between Goff and Amon Ross St. Brown, I'm not worried about at all. Those are your top three. We'll take a break. We'll get into the rest of the names This episode is brought to you by Samsung Galaxy Ever captured a great night video only for it to be ruined by that one noisy talker with audio erase on the new Samsung Galaxy S25 ultra you can reduce or remove unwanted noise and relive your favorite moments without the distractions. And that's not all. New Galaxy AI features like NowBrief will give you personalized insights based on your day schedule so that you're prepared no matter what.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Pre-order the Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra now at Samsung.com. incredibly Brian Thomas jr. comes in at number four and this was a in ascension over the course of the year his consistency rank number eight still insanely rookie amazing from a rookie fantastic but finishes at four overall while being drafted as the wide receiver 47 off the board 63% good 25% great 25% bust Which means that from rookie? Brian Thomas jr. You got a higher percentage of his games as great 20 what is it 20?
Starting point is 00:24:41 What's our threshold for great? I'm sorry 20 points 20 points I didn't know if I was over that. But you had a higher percentage from Brian Thomas than Amon Ra, than Justin Jefferson. And you see wide receivers get better as the season goes on when they are a rookie. Obviously he started looking, passing the eye test, playing well, but it was towards the midpoint of the season.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Some injuries happened both to Trevor Lawrence and to Krisha Kirk. And Gabe Davis and Evan Ingram. But the shift happened where it was like okay this is our primary offensive weapon. In the passing and receiving like it doesn't even matter it's quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end. Brian Thomas Jr. is our primary weapon. They had a week 12 bye week okay. From that point forward week 13 on, and this is including week 18 just because I have the data and I want to maximize the amount of total games, his consistency rank would have been the number one wide receiver
Starting point is 00:25:35 during that time. He was that good. And that was with Mack Jones. Double digit targets every week after the Pi Week. So I do believe he has, he established at the end of this year that he is their offensive leader. So next year, speaking of Liam Cohen, he comes in as the new Jaguars head coach. And oh man, oh it just makes me cringe because when you do it, here's the problem. Here's the real problem.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Sometimes there are like, in a horror movie, there is a picture or a, you know, the ring and you see that girl. You see that scary face. When you say Duvall, I see the outline of this dude's weird comical face and I am a little heebie-jeebie'd by it. So. If you say it in a mirror three times.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Oh don't do it, he'll show up. Now he is, he was a great play caller. It was awesome, he did a great job. That people respect, so we'll reserve some judgment, some. I hope he's awesome. But here's the deal, is Brian Thomas Jr. also can move all over the formation. He can also come into the slot and run routes
Starting point is 00:26:41 and be put into a position where he can make an impact. We saw this a little bit this year from him in terms of just, you're not gonna hold him down the entire game. You might have a quarter where you don't think he's doing something, like a CD Lamb, he figures it out. Yeah, I mean, one of my favorite things about his rookie season, which is similar
Starting point is 00:27:00 to Malik Nabors, is that they used him everywhere and that they used him not just everywhere in the formation but in the field. They'd go, you know, screen to him, they'll use him in the middle range. Just get the ball in his hand. 10 to 15 yards, they'll take deep shots.
Starting point is 00:27:13 He was absolutely everywhere. So it makes it really hard to guard players like that. That's what Justin Jefferson can do. He can go anywhere on the field so you can't plan for him the same. He was in the 85th percentile for targets per route run, 97th percentile for yards per route run, 92nd percentile for target percentage
Starting point is 00:27:33 compared to all the rookies in the last decade, 99th percentile in zone coverage yards per route run. He was definitely a dominator. I don't think it's gonna stop with the return of a Christian Kirk or Gabe Davis here and there. But could it stop with the return of Trevor Lawrence? Not the upgraded quarterback. Probably not in a way that will matter for how you draft him. Obviously won't be of value the way he was this past year. I guess the question I have too and it kind of dovetails into
Starting point is 00:28:04 dynasty talk, but like, from what you saw from Brian Thomas, and what you know you're getting with Liam Cohen, and Trevor Lor. Oh, there we got it. We got it everybody. We got it everybody. All right, hold on, okay, play it again.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Doo-ball. Yeah, it's bad. I thought it's a little bit better. You need the head wobbling. Just hearing the audio, it's a little bit better. Yeah. It's a little bit better need the head just seeing that just hearing the audio. It's a little bit better Yeah, it's a little bit with the smile is the it was the the face and the smile and and I don't want to You know, I was like, oh, why would you hire him as head coach mostly from just a vibes thing? I think it could be a very good head coach. So Jags fans. Don't don't be upset like I think hopefully you got a great hire
Starting point is 00:28:44 But be upset but like be weird think hopefully you got a great hire. But be upset. But like, be weirded out is all I'm saying. You don't have to, football wise, he might be great. Just be a little weirded out. Yeah, no, that's fair. Would you rather have Brian Thomas Jr. or Malik Neighbors in a dinosaur? I love the question.
Starting point is 00:29:00 It is a very fair question. I know my answer. I think it's a fair-ish question. That's still Malik. Yeah, it's Neighbors for me as well. But he's, I mean, he is very a very fair question. I know my answer. I think it's a fair-ish question. I'm still Malik. Yeah, it's neighbors for me as well. But he is very, very high up. It's when you move into like, Marvin. Do you like, Lad?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Is your confidence in your scouting process of Marv, being like... My confidence in my scouting process in Marv is... Is it strong enough to fight off Brian Thomas? Is very strong, it is 100% strong enough to fight off any negative connotations of failure from a disappointing rookie season. But my scouting of Marv includes now his rookie year,
Starting point is 00:29:39 and same with Brian Thomas. Brian Thomas has usurped him to me. That's such a good way to put it. They added both their resumes, and if Thomas has usurped him to me. That's such a good way to put it. They added both their resumes, and if you were redrafting, I would take Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, I mean, Brian Thomas- If I was an NFL team, I would actually take Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Brian Thomas Jr. in startup dynasty, you're talking about probably the wide receiver 5'6", 7". He's in that range, like Chase, Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, probably Amon Ra ahead of him. And then you're taking the shot on neighbors or Puka or these guys. So he's very, very high. And I think he'll be a first round pick next year
Starting point is 00:30:16 and start in redraft. Let's talk about a player that kinda went the opposite direction. Not a lot, but a little. Just like some of those guys at the front where Chase was drafted as wide receiver four. Last year's sweetie, Mr. CD, Lam, not Dee Dee Westbrook. CD, Lam, was drafted as the wide receiver two,
Starting point is 00:30:36 finished at five, consistency of 11 though. 20% bust games, that wasn't part of the CD experience last year at all. Still had 20% great games, 53% good. Lost his quarterback. Who went on IR in week 10. His first half consistency was 5, second half 18. We have a reason for that. I'm so impressed. Like genuinely impressed by CD Lamb this year. He probably was more impressive this year than he was last year when he was the wide receiver one. To lose your, to lose Dak, to be playing with a shoulder that looked like you should not be playing with this injury. You shouldn't be out of bed. No, you, you...
Starting point is 00:31:19 The man should be laid up watching Netflix. And that arm should be in a sling. Yes. Do not use that arm. Or go out and play football on it and get tackled on it every single week. He's doing that with backup quarterbacks and he still finishes as the wide receiver five. Even if you look at just the seven games played without Dak Prescott, he's on a 1300 yard pace, very involved. So I'm very, you know, I don't have a smidge I will be drafting him next year like I did going into this season personally which then adds to kind of our commentary on Brian Schottenheimer work that I like the consistency like if you
Starting point is 00:31:56 told me that they had went out like I don't I don't I don't want to defend Jerry Jones and the Cowboys but I'm going to for a second. Okay. I don't think they're in a position where they can make a right move ever now, okay? I totally hear what you're saying. Because you know what? If they went out and they made Deion Sanders the highest paid coach in football
Starting point is 00:32:16 and paid his buyout of Colorado and brought him to the NFL, you're just the same old Cowboys doing the flashy thing for the, you know, it's the way their draft picks were You finally took some offensive linemen for a while Well now you're not taking the big why didn't you take the running back you needed and the big flashy player? Then you take the flashy player. Why didn't you go safe? Look Brian Schottenheimer is
Starting point is 00:32:37 Boring. He's a boring hire. Mm-hmm Might be the right hire. He could be and obviously They do know more about Schottenheimer than we do. They've worked with him for years, they know his capabilities, and so you've gotta have a little bit of trust there. We were wrong. We were wrong with the departure.
Starting point is 00:32:57 We mocked the Mike McCarthy hire. And the departure of Kellen Moore and the replacement of Brian Schottenheimer, translating to a worse season for CD and less production on the offense, and both Dak and C.D. were better with that. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, and I think that's fair. I agree with the premise that just about everything they do is going to be scrutinized and kind
Starting point is 00:33:18 of you're going to be smelling it like you're smelling a fart. You're looking for something bad. I do think if they went out and hired Ben Johnson, you know, we would have universally said, wow, great hire, that's that. You know, I think they can make picks that will be liked, but you're going to primarily with the Cowboys just have pessimism right now,
Starting point is 00:33:40 because it's fun to say things at Jerry Jones's expense. Yeah, it's dysfunctional. And to be fair, he says some crazy things, man. He says them at his expense. The last one, oh brother. That's not the first time he's said that. No, he has an old man definition of some of the words he said. I think he's just trolling now. No. No, he's not. No, that wasn't a troll. I watched it.
Starting point is 00:34:04 No, that's got a different meaning than, I can't even talk about that. Yeah, we can't say on this show. But CD Layham, you got all the confidence in the world. I have confidence as well. If there had been a tremendous change at the quarterback position because they made a different decision,
Starting point is 00:34:21 a different head coach is gonna run something completely, you need a running back in a running game. That was the departure from last year to get more consistent high performing games. But I'm not worried about, you know, no Brandon Cooks, he's a free agent. If the wide receivers or the running backs change for the better or the worse, either way, it changes nothing for CDLAM. The only thing that could change anything for CDL Lamb is if Dak Prescott on his recovery, isn't ready to go or something,
Starting point is 00:34:49 and that does not appear to be the situation. Yes, maybe Schottenheimer's the right guy, and it's like two years ago, the Cowboys offense was incredible. This past year, it ranks near the bottom. For me, I would not have been nervous for CD Lam, regardless of any coach that comes in. It's the offense as a whole that I am not sure if Schottenheimer's
Starting point is 00:35:15 the right guy. Because I want this Dallas offense as high powered as possible for more scoring opportunities for CD Lam. Because he will get his targets, but we need touchdowns. Well, this is not a name we've got to talk about on this show ever when we're talking about the truth. Feels good, man, feels good. Number six in year number six,
Starting point is 00:35:43 for the very first time ever, a top 10 fantasy wide receiver coming in at six, Terry McLaurin. Yes. At 29 years old, that is not young. Who doesn't, like I said, who doesn't love Terry McLaurin? He's spectacular. If you don't love Terry McLaurin,
Starting point is 00:35:59 you gotta look in the mirror and say, figure out what the flaw is in you. Bucks fans? I don't know. I feel like you can be in division, hate Washington, and look at the career of Terry McLaurin and go, dude, that guy is a baller, and that guy has put up with so much garbage.
Starting point is 00:36:16 So I am so happy. Been a team captain forever for them. Great dude, great player. And it was nice to see him be able to have, he's a very fast player, and it was nice to see him be able to have, he's a very fast player. He's got speed and strength combined, and it's so nice to see when those type of players can be running on the field, and the ball is placed just in front of them. And you see what they can do, and that happened over and over and over with Jaden Daniels
Starting point is 00:36:42 putting the ball in stride, where you don't have to come back to the ball to catch it. You don't have to stop. You don't have to jump and dive and end your run because this is a guy who can have great run after the catch potential. Very similar to DJ Moore where if you can place the ball right, you're going to have massive big plays. Terry McLaurin was a big play machine this year, which he really hadn't had the opportunity to be. And he was literally almost identical against top defenses, bottom defenses, home, road, 19% great, that's the same as Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:37:17 69% good games, amazing. Nice. 25% bust games, just a dynamic playmaker through and through all season long. One of the best picks in fantasy drafted in the late sixth round. Consistency rake was seven, so right by his finish. Nine and nine, first and second half. 82 for 1096 and 13.
Starting point is 00:37:37 If you want to pick it apart, 13 touchdowns is going to be real tough for Terry McLaurin to do again. And that is everything. He had 117 targets this year caught 82 of them so a 70% catch rate that is like by far the highest of his career but even with those things he was still just under 1,100 receiving yards that's 1,100 yards that's that's excellent but 1,100 yards is not usually a receiver of this finish. That's the fewest receiving yards by a top-six fantasy wide receiver since 2017 when Jarvis Landry did it. So it's the... 13 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:38:17 So more than likely there will be touchdown regression. So Terry McLoran's ADP is going to be one of those, like, hopefully we all keep cool heads and he is not drafted like he's going to get 13 touchdowns. I think because of his age, you know, he'll be 30. And a lot of times people really back off. And also the fantasy community is so much smarter than seven, eight years ago, where ADP is closer to right, there are fewer hits off of the waiver wire because we're targeting people correctly. I think cool heads will prevail and he won't be overinflated. Four years ago, Terry McLaurin would have been overdrafted and even though he's great, he might wind up on our bus list for where he's going. I don't think that'll happen this season
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, it's just nice to see somebody finally get that opportunity to shine Yes, and he will have that opportunity again next year with Jayden and more primetime games will be coming Washington's way. No question Malik neighbors at seven Wouldn't say it's a consistent year weird weird year seven is Just doesn't feel right at all. His consistency rank was 13 that feels about right But that still even seems high I would say here's the story of Malik neighbors in summary his first half was number seven inconsistency But he missed two games due to injuries. So that's a little bit of a distortion. Then the second half was 23rd.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And really from weeks five through 14, that is not a small amount of time, a relevant player. But guy you played every week. But a guy you played every week. So actually, he hurt you. Because five to 14 is a huge stretch. It's the main chunk of the season. He started with three straight top six finishes in weeks two, three, and four. So he set you up to like, I just found a diamond in the rough.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It wasn't his fault, right? The quarterback position was rotating through different starters. The team was a disaster, but injury, which was the concussion, I believe. I think so. And then, so he missed two games. Then he comes back. I will say this. Doesn't finish inside the top 25 for that entire stretch.
Starting point is 00:40:38 So I don't think he crushed dynasty managers during that time. You never had the big game, but of those seven games played during that stretch, which one of those weeks was a bye week, he had two bust games. And that's actually a really good number for a wide receiver. Wide receivers bust more than you think unless you're the cream of the cream. He was wide receiver 33 from week seven through 14. With like a consistent like 10 points every week. It just felt like every week was 10 points. So I'm not saying he was very good during that time.
Starting point is 00:41:09 He also had a quarterback change during that time. Week 10, Daniel Jones was put out to pasture. And so he dealt with less than Daniel Jones. You were already starting with a problem. Then they're like, how would you like a bigger problem? You got to see some flashes during the fantasy playoffs of Monster Games. We know his talent is there. 11 targets per game.
Starting point is 00:41:33 They weren't good targets. There's going to be the same questions about Malik neighbors next year as there were this year, which is how do we feel about the new quarterback? Because we're not sure. And I'm probably going to err on the side of buying into the talent of Malik neighbors, because I don't want to be, I don't want to be left out. Yeah, he's the kind of player that when it's going, you're really happy he's on your team.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I just don't know where that's going to be when it comes to the draft. And it's going to depend on who that quarterback's going to be. And I think there's going to be a lot of variance. Are they two? Let me pull it up real quick. Yeah, you pull that up. By the way, three.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Three. Tennessee, Cleveland, Giants. They were tied or trailing on 90% of his routes. That makes sense. So that's wild. That's what I felt. Yeah, you kind of felt like, you know, he's one of those situations with that offense
Starting point is 00:42:27 where you felt like, you know, some just are like a knife through butter. You watch Cincinnati, it's up and down the field. This one felt like it was, you need a thousand cuts to finally get a scoring opportunity to finish at seven overall with seven receiving touchdowns. He's that dude. 170 targets, that is what I will have a hard time passing on.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yes, he is a dominant one who is an alpha wide receiver, demanding the ball, can handle it. And so, you know, Jamar Chase hasn't always been this year's Jamar Chase, but you look at the talent of him and you say, we know he can be. That's what I see with Malik Neighbors. Now, obviously, Jamar Chase has Joe Burrow and that's a massive difference. It's possible.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I believe in, who was it? I think it was Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock. It might have been his first mock of this season, but the last one I saw, I believe that he had the Giants getting the first quarterback off the board with the Titans and Browns both going defensive players. Who knows? Was it Cam Ward? Yeah, Cam Ward. I believe that was who he went. Yeah, they're in a position where, you know, look, we've seen some rookie quarterbacks make a quick impact.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Especially recently. And you really can't get worse than what he got last year. That 170 targets needs to be like multiplied by point, you know. Point seven five. Yeah, point six five or something with what you got. At eight, another surprise name maybe for well yes definitely compared to where he was drafted in the ninth round. Jackson Smith and Jigba a tale of two halves gentlemen. Oh yeah. Finishes with a
Starting point is 00:44:15 consistency of 19. First half 45. First half weeks one through eight singing the same song for JSN. If you were a dynasty manager, who in a dynasty league traded for JSN in the middle of this year, I would love to see those trades. Cause you probably got a top wide receiver prospect, a top, like, you know, if we were doing a redraft startup, he's going to be one of the first 12 wide receivers drafted, and you probably got him for Jack
Starting point is 00:44:46 Squat because halfway through this year you're like, well, I guess JSN wasn't really It was a year and a half and you know confirmed our fears from last year and he took over to go from a First half consistency of 45 to a second half of five overall is so impressive. Now I don't know what angle I'm going to take. I know the truth of JSN is a very good player. You also had a second half of the season where inexplicably DK Metcalfe disappeared. You've now fired your offensive coordinator. You got very limited playtime in production
Starting point is 00:45:25 from your running game in the second half of the year. Fighting desperately, Geno Smith could not throw touchdowns. I don't, it's a kind of, Seattle's just kind of a weird mess for me. And I don't know if I'm gonna feel better about them at any point in this off season. Or anything's gonna happen to change that.
Starting point is 00:45:44 So here's, let me make the pro argument for you, okay? off season, anything's gonna happen to change that. So here's, let me make the pro argument for you, okay? Tyler Lockett is done with the Seahawks. Even if they bring him back, he's done. You know what I mean? Like he was done this year, he doesn't have much left to give. We kind of saw the gas tank run empty on Tyler Lockett. DK Metcalf has kind of shown what he is
Starting point is 00:46:08 which is a really dominant physical force and not the greatest wide receiver. During that second half of the year with Geno Smith, nine games played, he caught 76% of his passes. This is a go-to guy who can be reliable, would have been on a pace for over 105 receptions. And you know, Gino, I expect to be back as of right now. He was used differently than he was used his rookie year where everything was behind the line of scrimmage. You got to see him work down the field where he belongs and succeed. So I do think going forward, like who would you think next year, even forget fantasy, just from a game plan perspective, they're going into 2025. Who do they view as their primary wide receiver? Metcalf. See, I think it is JSN.
Starting point is 00:47:00 It'll be Metcalf. I genuinely believe that. Yeah, I think Metcalf is still the alpha there. JSN is a very, very, very good player, but I don't know what his, his touchdown cap is not anywhere near Metcalf's. I mean, Metcalf could score 15, had a weird bumpy year. Gino's a free agent in two years.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I don't, I just don't know what it's going to look like. I think the average depth of target for JSM was very low this year. And I will throw out, if you've been with the show for a year, I kind of have these. So Kyle says 9.2 A dot. That's low. Yeah, that's not where you want it to be for a number one fantasy type of a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:47:46 But just looking historically back on ADP, right? So guys who finished in the top 24 for the first time in year two. That's a good sign? No. Their hit rate in year three. I know. It's really weird.
Starting point is 00:48:01 That don't make a no sense. It's not that they're bad. It's just that the hit rate of returning the, so like if he's drafted as the wide receiver 12, you expect him to score x amount of points, right? Their hit rate of getting to the points are being drafted to hit, they're only hitting it about 50% of the time.
Starting point is 00:48:23 It's a really, really weird thing. I'm not sure I understand what you said. Okay. Do you get it? I'm trying to do it off the fly about it. You're saying that if a player jumps up into the category in year two. No, a player finishes as a top 24 wide receiver for the first time in their career in year two. And then they're drafted proportional to that. They don't deliver on their expectations the next year in year two. And then they're drafted proportional to that. They don't deliver on their expectations the next year in year three. Yes. 50-50.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yes, he's a glass half empty guy. 50-50, I can be a glass half full guy. 50% of the time they do. Well look, Jace. Guys who do it in year one, and shockingly guys who do it in year three for the first time, their hit rates are tremendous. That's just a weird
Starting point is 00:49:11 Let me let me just poke a little bit of hole in that logic if they if they did a little bit of holes Oh, yeah, if they did it in year three You are going to be far more suspect of them succeeding which means where they are drafted Going into your four will be much lower. When a wide receiver hits it in year two, of course their ADP is going to be very high. And if your ADP is very high, it's already baked in a higher likelihood of failure. Like if you are drafted as the wide receiver one, I would bet you the wide receiver one drafted every single year, 90% of the time fails because there's nowhere to go but down. Yeah, but these guys aren't necessarily draft-lected.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I'm just saying it's a really weird, it feels like a strange anomaly that the way that we think about wide receivers of year two is the real breakout year. You will not be happy with 100 for 1106 from JSA. No, no you will not. Not that he will do that again, but that's what his numbers were. You won't be happy if that's what it is. If his average up to target and touchdowns don't go up, you'll just be kind of unhappy. And it's Gino. It's the offense. It's the new coordinator. It's the division. I am not saying I'm out on Jason. I think he was explosive and amazing from week nine through 16.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I'm just saying that the first eight weeks, what happened there? Yeah, that's fair. I mean, what happened there? What happened to 17 weeks of last year, first eight weeks of this year, and then that stretch, is that a defining change? You'd be like, yes, definitely,
Starting point is 00:50:35 except for the guy calling the plays is gone. Right, that's fair, but a breakout that happens at a team that says, oh, okay, we see more of what a player can do, can put them into that mix. Yes, it definitely can. I'm really going to be on DK Metcalfe watch. He's 28 years old.
Starting point is 00:50:51 He's got a $31 million cap hit this year, and this is his final year contractually. So do they extend him so that they can free up some room? That makes sense. But also, do they extend a 28-year-old who's had a down season when they're wanting to get to running and they've got some cap issues, or do you look to trade them? I don't know, but I'm on Metcalfe Watch because he could have... He's been in those rumor mills for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, and he could have a massive impact on JSN. I feel like this has been too accidentally negative about JSN. I'm just trying to look at the big picture of that offensive coordinator leaving and my lack of confidence in Gino, because Gino can go out and throw under 20 touchdowns, like he did this year in the relevant fantasy weeks, or he can go out like he did a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:51:34 and be better. Something didn't work with Grubb from the team's, from their perspective of the coach and the team. Whatever that was, we're gonna find out. We shouldn't, Grubb is unhealthy. I mean, we should have known that. Grubbs, yeah. Grubb, yeah that was, we're gonna find out. Why? Grub is unhealthy. I mean, we should have known that. Grubs, yeah. Grub, grub, yeah, well, I'm just saying, no,
Starting point is 00:51:49 you don't call a salad grub. I mean, the family would be the grubs. You know what I mean? Like, when you're eating grub, you're eating just like- Grub is bugs. It is as in Lion King. The grubs are bugs. But it is also junk food. Not just the Lion king, either.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Also life. What? No, I think Mike's right here. Grubs are a common way to refer to a bunch of edible bugs. Go to the deucers. I mean, none of them are question of these games. All right, all right. I've got the definitive answer.
Starting point is 00:52:19 We don't need the deucers. Sorry, guys. I would love for you to weigh in. All right, get away from the deucers. Go away. All right, grub. I said define grub. Here's what Google says.
Starting point is 00:52:26 There are two definitions. Noun, one, food. A popular bar serving excellent grub. Yeah, grub hub. Yeah, exactly, it's grub. But that's always bad food. That's the reference I was making. The other one, the larva of an insect,
Starting point is 00:52:41 especially a beetle. We're both right. Look at that. Yeah, I wasn't, I mean, I definitely didn't disagree with Grubhub. But OK. How many, I mean, sorry, this is more rhetorical, just of curious.
Starting point is 00:52:56 The Seahawks won 10 games. They went 10 and 7. Right, right. And this guy's first year being an OC, and they're like, see you later. I think it was a philosophical difference. Yes. I believe the defensive head coach
Starting point is 00:53:09 wants to run the ball more. I think DK Metcalf got him kicked out of town. No, I don't actually think that. I think they want to run a lot more. But this is interesting. This is getting the juices going because JSN is like, oh, OK, here we go. This is a player we juices going, because J.S.N. is like, oh, okay, here we go. This is a player who's gonna,
Starting point is 00:53:25 we're gonna disagree about, and his swings are gonna be wild. I feel like they let go Pete Carroll, and then they're like, man. What, did you hear the- I like the Pete Carroll offense, better run the ball boy. Pete Carroll could have Russell Wilson
Starting point is 00:53:41 in Las Vegas with Darrell Bevel as the offensive coordinator. It could be. It will not happen. Oh, I think it definitely will happen. Oh, we gotta put a bet on that one. I think we're putting Seattle back into Las Vegas. I think we're running it back.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Old man edition. I think Carroll knew exactly what he was doing when he let Russ walk. He saw him every day. I don't think he wants Russ back. Yeah, but then he went and watched the tape of- AOC. AOC.
Starting point is 00:54:07 All right, we'll take a break, got some more names. What you don't want to do is order from Grubhub. If you order from Grubhub, you will get larva only. Yeah. Which, if they look like they do in The Lion King- You're in? I'm gonna eat them. They looked appetizing to you. They made bugs look delicious. Because of juicy. Yeah. Flavorful.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I was in. They were well fed bugs. Those grubs had eaten. What were those things eating? Grubs. Probably corn. You know what I mean? They were fattened and finished on corn. That's a corn fed corn. That's a corn-fed bug. That's right. Number nine was Drake London. Came in at 10 in consistency, nine in the first half, 14 in the second half. Little bump in the road from weeks 11 through 16 while the quarterback situation got jostled around.
Starting point is 00:54:57 56% good, 6% great, 13% bust. Drafted as the wide receiver, 10 finishes as the consistency rank of 10. Did Drake London just do what we thought he'd do? He did. He broke out. He showed that he's capable of not only just being an NFL wide receiver one, but a true target dominator. And this is the one player.
Starting point is 00:55:20 We made the philosophical decision to chop off week 18. Doesn't count for fantasy. There's so many players that on a case by case basis played half a game, played some of the game. We just wanted to know the season we just had, how was it? This is the biggest exception where it hurt his numbers. In week 18, he was the number one, you know, wide receiver in fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And this was a very important game while it was being played for the Falcons. So this was real football where he dominated, and he needed to dominate, and he came through. Did you have that when it moved him to? I don't have that in front of me because I don't have everybody else's week 18 data. Yeah, I mean, look, the first half of the season
Starting point is 00:56:00 when there was some stability there, number nine in consistency, finished at nine overall, good in all situations, a little bit better at home than on the road, finishes. I mean, there's 158 target season. That's what you wanted to see. Always going to be a threat for double digit touchdowns in this offense. I mean, if you had to say, if you had to list, you know, five guys in the NFC, they can do it. How do you not have Drake London on that list with that physical profile? So. Well, and the best part about that week 18
Starting point is 00:56:28 is that that's Michael Pennex. You know, the big change here, that he had the consistency when he had Kirk Cousins. And maybe Kirk Cousins wasn't what they needed. He wasn't the Kirk Cousins of old, but he was pretty good with Kirk Cousins. And then you had that change and you have a little bit of fear,
Starting point is 00:56:42 but two of those last games with Michael Pennex were 106 yards. And then the next one was the 187 and two. That's fantastic. And then we'll round it out with a number 10 slash number 15, the Garrett Wilson, Devante Adams jets combination. Garrett Wilson finished at 10 consistency of 17, a second app consensus consistency of 17, a second half consistency of 26. After the arrival of Devonte Adams, who was a consistency rank of 20 but in the second
Starting point is 00:57:12 half was 13, these guys had very similar season-long numbers. Adams missed a couple of weeks for Las Vegas before the trade. He had the higher percentage of good games, barely higher percentage of great games, more bust games. Again, transitioned halfway during the year. What are we doing here? Aaron Glenn, new head coach of the Jets. They keep asking him if Aaron Rodgers is gonna be back.
Starting point is 00:57:44 He keeps giving the same answer. We're in evaluation mode. Just say no. Yeah just just say the truth. We all know it. It's really hard because just he no that would be the answer you want to say as long as you can answer your the question of who's your quarterback with a good answer. But when you're an NFL head coach and you could start your AOC season, or you could start your Pittsburgh Russell Wilson season, you'd rather have the Russell Wilson season because you don't want to have your first year in New York be circling the drain with a nobody quarterback. That's all I'm saying about that is that look, it probably won't be Aaron Rodgers, but who's it going
Starting point is 00:58:23 to be then? So the list of free agents here, I'm trying to pull it up real quick. So we have, look, it probably won't be Aaron Rodgers, but who's it gonna be then? So the list of free agents here, I'm trying to pull it up real quick, so we have, well, you have the Sam Darnold decision that the Minnesota Vikings have to make. You're not bringing Darnold to New York. Yeah. I mean.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Bring him back home, baby. Probably not. If that happens, you can have all my possessions. It probably won't happen. I mean, speaking of not going back, Zach Wilson. Those are both free agents? So they can pick all their old guys. So, I mean, Lance, Jacoby, Heineken, Mario.
Starting point is 00:58:57 You're not aiming any quarterbacks. Or they can go for a quarterback with a number seven draft pick overall. Fields? Fields or overall. Fields? Fields or Russ. Fields, Jamis? Dude, send Jamis to the Jets. That's how I would be in on Garrett Wilson. Let's...
Starting point is 00:59:13 Every other name you said would terrify me for Garrett Wilson. Yes, yeah, very, very much. And then Devante Adams, I don't think, is hanging around with that Aaron Rodgers. I really don't. So if you want to give a point back in favor of Wilson, Wilson doesn't even want to be there. Wilson's not going to get another contract there unless it's a rookie quarterback that shows Bo Nicks potential. Yeah, the Wilson,
Starting point is 00:59:43 his future is so murky. Garrett Wilson is a good to very good wide receiver, and I don't feel like that should be an insult, it feels like it is. Yeah I think that's I think that is appropriately the truth like he is not a great wide receiver he's a very good wide receiver he'll have a quarterback problem it seems like based on the names you read and the draft capital that they have at number seven that they mean Kirk Cousins? Should probably be in, well, yeah. Kirk Cousins in New York?
Starting point is 01:00:08 They take the old quarterback off the Achilles. Yeah. They don't wanna rotate to the other one? Probably not gonna do. It's funny, because they either rotate to someone they drafted, or they do another bad job drafting. I mean, you know. It's why I think Rodgers could still be there.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yeah, well, at the very least, it does make sense that Aaron Glenn would have the company line because if they're wanting to draft the quarterback, if they're wanting to sign a quarterback, it doesn't behoove them to say, no, Aaron Rodgers is not going to be our quarterback. They want to say, yeah, we're going to evaluate it. Maybe he will be our quarterback. And they're, damn, I got the number seven pick in there. But I do think that when Aaron Glenn finishes that conference, it goes to his office
Starting point is 01:00:46 and shuts the door. He's like, I hope not. Yeah, there's a lot of drama that comes along with that for sure. I'm starting to think that quarterback's pretty important though for these teams. Yeah, this year was the first year I started thinking, quarterbacks matter. Right. I think they make an impact on the NFL game. It's going to make a difference. They should protect these guys.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah, so they'll have one of these guys will have to be a bridge. And maybe. They could bring in and start week one a rookie. But you still have to have someone else on the roster just in case. To compete. And there's no one in the free agent quarterback list that is
Starting point is 01:01:27 It's like incredible because that's that's you could have a rookie you begin You could have a rookie go compete with Justin Fields, but that would make sense. There's a few names where like Give me Jamis or give me death. I Was gonna we all want last name it's gross But but if Cooper Rush goes and starts the year for the Jets. Oh gosh. Give me Jamus or give me- Jamus we want for entertainment, but not- there won't be victories associated with him.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Well not for the Jets. Fantasy. Not for the Jets. But lots of fantasy. We're not here trying to get the Jets win. No. That's an impossible task. We will try- we're gonna get through a bunch more names on the next episode, but first we have this.
Starting point is 01:02:02 We will try, we're gonna get through a bunch more names on the next episode, but first we have this. ["Fantasy Face Off"] Fantasy Face Off, presented by DraftKangs. ["Fantasy Face Off"] Just a couple cool dudes wearing crowns over here. It's weird, man. Somehow Jason and I- Weird, you guys look really different. We do, we do.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We do look a little different than you're used to seeing us. Travis Kelsey, I had him under 70 and a half. He had 19. You got it. But Josh Allen, that was a little bit tighter. And by the way, Jason had these same picks. He had Josh Allen over 229. I had him over 228
Starting point is 01:02:46 Unfortunately, we did not get it was close though. We didn't get the he finished at I know that was it was eight yards away He yards from us Splitting even though we have the same exact Mike hit his more than 36 and a half rushing yards for Kareem hunt But did not get the Josh Allen rushing come on one attempt up there, but he didn't get it. So we've got our picks for the Super Bowl with these crowns upon our heads. I hope they mean good things for these picks. I'm going to go with a player I think
Starting point is 01:03:16 will have a surprise impact in the Super Bowl. OK. Oh, OK. But it's important for this team. I'm going to go Hollywood Brown over 41 and a half, more than 41 and a half receiving yards. Okay. And then I'm gonna go Saquon more.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Taking the rushing. Than 133 and a half rushing receiving combo. I was really close to taking that exact one. When I was looking at the Eagles. The rush receive combination I like, because it's only, I think it's about, what's his rushing line? I think his rush is 118.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah. So yeah, I'm going to take the rush receiving combination. All right. I am on the Eagles side. I'm going to take Jalen Hurts more than 213 passing yards. He's done it recently. He did it this last week against Washington. Last time they were in a Super Bowl against Mahomes, he threw for 300.
Starting point is 01:04:05 So 213 I think is a line he can get over. And I'm going back to the well from the easiest victory ever last week. Travis Kelsey, less than 63 and a half, receiving yards against a very good Philly defense. It seems like it should be that way. Dallas Goddard, I'm going to go more than 51 and a half. And Andy, we were on different sides here, but Dallas Goddard really has, gonna go more than 51 and a half. That pairs nicely with mine. Andy, we were on different sides here,
Starting point is 01:04:26 but Dallas Goddard really has, at least over the playoff run, he has been a go-to guy here. It's just wild, because I think that line for him, that 51 and a half, is a yard bigger, or a yard more than Devontae Smith. Yeah, he's been massively involved. The Chiefs were a team that we could get
Starting point is 01:04:44 tight end points during the fantasy season. So I'm going to take my chances there. And then I'm going to take Patrick Mahomes less than 251 and 1 half passing yards. That line of 250 is kind of surprising to me. The Eagles defense, man, they are very, very good. They are legit. Well, that was the fantasy face off presented
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