Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - The TRUTH: WRs Part 2 + Where’s Jason? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/4

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

What’s the TRUTH about Jerry Jeudy, Jordan Addison, and Tee Higgins? On today’s fantasy football podcast, learn the TRUTH behind the fantasy finish for a number of wide receivers! Which players have the chance to take a step forward in 2025? Plus, the latest coaching updates and more! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for February 4th, 2025. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Andy Holloway, Mike Wright, the fantasy footballers. How you doing, Mike?, the fantasy footballers. How you doing, Mike? Hi, look, I'm good. How you doing? I had a lovely weekend. Oh, me too, man. Just getting this show recorded. The people on audio have no idea what's going on.

Oh, Tuesday, February 12th, what a great show. Got Deucer's Alley's cracking up back there. Did you say February 12th? Ah, whatever. February 4th, sorry. Whatever, man. Yeah, I don't know why I said that. I guess I'm a little distracted,

just like, wait, who's missing? Jason's not here. Well, he is. I see his laptop. He's here. I see his chair is kind of sideways. Yeah. Like a man who I see his laptop. He's here. I see his chair is kind of Sideways. Yeah, like a man who evacuated the his seat. Yeah, we were about to hit record. Yeah But he's not here. No, he is in the he is in the slack saying there's no way you guys are

This is a fake out. You're faking me out. So he'll be joining us A new award winner Trophy has changed hands the toilet trophy is now positioned center pocket This is a really questionable decision to start out. Are you feeling good about this call? Oh, yeah get the show recorded We can't be late. We have a timeline to stick to.

So we're just kicking things off here Mike. Yeah, what is today's show? Well today is the poop, the truth, the truth of the wide receiver position part two, not number two. Right. Part two. Right, that's someone else somebody else is the middle This is definitely a low for us This is a low this is a low for you and me personally this is a low for the deuces

No, this is this is fantastic. I mean, it's February. Let's just we'll get into the content Jason Moore Will be here eventually Jason Moore when he is eventually. Jason Moore, when he is done, we're doing whatever he's doing. Yeah. Oh my goodness. He'll show up. He'll be here soon. You're saying we kick this?

Yeah, let's get this show going. There was no football, there was a Pro Bowl, I guess. Oh my gosh. I saw some clips online of like, the receivers putting on gigantic hands and trying to catch a ball. I genuinely, there's no way that our audience wants to hear from you and I

about the Pro Bowl instead of Luka Donjic. Yeah, I mean, I know more about that than I know about the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl is a travesty. I don't know why they're wearing giant hands. I don't know why they are What do we got here? You gotta hit your button over there you dirty dirty sons of guns, how you doing buddy? Unbelievable How you doing buddy? Un-be-lie-vable You guys

You guys, oh my gosh I can't believe you guys Can you believe we Can you believe we did this? Did you think it was that it was still a goof Even as you were walking in? No I- Look at the time man we're going Oh my gosh We're doing it live

This is ridiculous. This is so mean. It's so brilliant. I can't believe. I'm so proud of you guys right now. Oh man. Welcome to the show Jason. Oh gosh darn it.

Oh I'm so red. Oh you are. Oh my gosh. Well, so let me tell you something. I don't know what you guys talked about. Oh, you are. Oh my gosh. Well, so let me tell you something. I don't know what you guys talked about. Not much. But I'm, you know, right before the show.

Yeah. Mike's not in here yet. Wally gagging lazy man. I was getting ready for the show. I'm thinking, man, I knew something. There were some problems in the tummy. And I was like, I'm going to go ahead and take care of business now. And it was a great decision because I desperately needed to.

Yeah, I get it. And then I tell you guys like, hey, there's some problems in here. You said quotes. Yeah, quotes, oh great. I have made a very important and wise decision. I have a strong feeling I will be in here for more than a minute or two.

Yes, and so then a minute later I hear, Oh, welcome in. And I went, no. I thought at first, I thought, now that's a good joke. I thought you were just sitting here and doing that so I could hear it. No. And then I kept hearing some laughs and some giggles and I was like, Did they really do it? They're doing it. They left me on the toilet.

Oh man. So yes. So now I get the deuces alley trophy. You got the trophy. Unreal. Welcome in. Well, I'll tell you what, there is a chance I do not finish the show.

So jokes on you. And I'm just, and at point, we're not pausing. No, I'll just take off. I won't say one word. No, Dukadonchich. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, goodness.

We do have a wide receiver episode, and I'm so glad you could be here. Yeah, me too. You still in shock? Yeah, well, no, I'm good for the time being. Give me another 10 minutes. This is an all-timer well we were gonna briefly comment on the Luke and dirty dogs yeah man yeah you would do

it oh I would do it I'm proud of you this is brilliant the deuces are dying they've been dying for for five minutes now oh man oh man well yeah there was there was really big news not in the NFL. And we all are NBA fans. Mm-hmm, casual. And I was 100% certain, just quick reactions. I know this is not an NBA show, but I've already heard from enough people

that want our quick reactions to that trade. Because it is the single most shocking, surprising trade in any sport that I can recall. I mean, I remember being a Suns fan in 1992, and the Suns got Charles Barkley for nothing. Yeah, that was great. I remember Ricky Williams getting traded for every draft pick that existed.

Oh, for the Saints? For the Saints? Yeah. But this one, when it broke, I'm laying in bed. For a lot of East Coasters They were asleep. They woke up to it and I was a hundred percent certain that Shams got hacked. Oh for sure because it did not and still to this moment Has not made one ounce more since

Than the moment I read it. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes was just traded, you know for What would what would the equivalent be? Like an above average. Matthew Stafford? Yeah, Stafford. He's a Super Bowl winner. Yeah, trade him for Stafford? It's like, well that doesn't make sense. Why would you do that? I mean, Lucas, and I can't stand Lucas. He's a big fat baby. Yes.

If this is on the fat. But he's 25 years old. He's 20, he is a generation, he's a top five talent in the NBA who is with whatever franchise, he is the face of whatever franchise for a decade. And those guys don't get traded. You can't acquire those guys. And here's the craziest part. If one of those caliber players were to ever get traded, the

amount of haul that they would... I mean, you put that on the... You go to your general manager group chat and you just say, hey guys, I'm thinking about... Guess what? Yeah, I'm thinking about putting Luka out there. You're going to have 31 offers in minutes. And they just go and they trade them for Jack Squat. There's not even that many teams. Oh, how many are there in the NBA? 30?

My Jamar Chase looks pretty good now, doesn't it? Pretty good. Mike, you were as shocked as everybody else. Yeah, I was with you. I thought it was fake. I think I even saw it and didn't post it into our basketball channel, because I'm like, mm-mm, you don't wanna be,

you're not getting me on this one. And then you post it, and I'm like, I guess this is real, and then, I didn't wanna share it to my other friends' groups because I thought this is fake and people are gonna laugh about how dumb this trade is. Not that Luca got traded, but just the compensation is it doesn't make any sense. I yeah I was shocked it was crazy

controversial opinion but genuinely I'm not even sure Dallas fans like if you won a title with AD but you lose Luka Lucas the face of your franchise for the next 12 years? I'm not even sure you're happy. I guess you should be happy, but I don't know if you are happy. It's very weird. Well, there's rumors that this is to make them worse on purpose. Mission accomplished. I've seen those. Those seem too many layers into the conspiracy. You're down the rabbit hole, but at this point, What other explanation makes sense? I mean, if you're not trying to make your team worse,

then you did a bad job. If you're trying to make your team worse, you'd, I mean, A+. All right, here's some NFL news. News and notes from around the league. The Raiders, they hired Chip Kelly as their offensive coordinator. This is awesome. I'm really a little bit confused as to the pairing

between Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly. I mean, obviously two historically great collegiate head coaches getting together, but Pete Carroll's been a defense and run the ball type of head coach, and Chip Kelly is a fast pace, a no huddle, of high scoring, great plays. I mean, in his few years, and he didn't have great quarterback play when he was a head coach or when he was with San Francisco or Philly. And you're talking about top five in rushing offenses, in points. He had some really good things for fantasy football.

So I was really hoping this cycle would have Chip Kelly back into an offensive coordinator position And it's I like that it goes to the Raiders in the sense that this is a team that I don't know prior to this I'm not excited about after this. Maybe we've got some fantasy gold there Well, I know be interesting to see what they find in the draft quarterback. Do they find a running back? You got Brock Bowers More importantly Well just for this show the Buccaneers Liam Cohen's gone guys I don't know if you know do which I I analyzed it again and it really takes it over the top is watch the eyebrows why is that what when he does the do because one is I think it's like one is up you

know kind of like the rock, and then it's do, and then vol, the other one flies up. So you've been spending some time with this. I told you, I can't get enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the Buccaneers need an offensive coordinator with Liam Cohen departing, so they have promoted Josh Grizzard, Jay Grizz.

Jay Grizz! I'm Jay Grizz! Hard. You can't make this stuff up. Sometimes things just come together for the sake of this show. Josh Grizzard. The Grizzler. As Mike calls him, the Grizzler.

New offensive coordinator, the eighth one for Baker Mayfield. And. Come on Baker, you could do it again. He can, he's used to it now two years with the same coordinator might might be very difficult for him at this point we have a new offensive coordinator for the Jets it was the Lions passing game coordinator Tanner Ingstrand so the Lions have lost a lot of coaching yeah this is what happens and that's that's what makes the loss just even tougher,

is you knew that things were gonna get pillaged there. And the Cowboys hired Clayton Adams, a former Cardinals offensive line coach, to be their new OC. It was a surprising move, but the Cowboys, they do their own thing, man. At least they're not own thing, man. At least they're not the Mavs.

That is true, I mean, Jerry's feeling real good right now in Texas, he's like, yeah, hey. Or bad, maybe he's out of the spotlight. Yeah, he thinks he wants it. Remember when he took over the world with that, we're not gonna stop the sun for being in your eyes thing? Yeah. The moon.

No, now it's all Luca. We will have a full, in-depth coaching changes episode. It's coming up here pretty soon. We're waiting. You gonna be there for all of that? Yup, TBD, you know? It's like, when was the last time I ate Chipotle? Would be the question that I would ask you.

Which was today! Oh man! Yeah, but we'll have that episode coming out where we dive deep. We're waiting for a couple more hires to happen. So we can quit. You're waiting for Kellen Moore to officially get hired by the Saints?

Basically. That's the rumor mill is, like essentially it's his job. What do you? But nothing's official. Do you believe Dallas could be the Schottenheimer, Clayton Adams? Do you think this is placeholder?

Do you think this is the bridge? Cause they're starting to be, you know, like, is this the waiting for Dion? Because it would look bad on Dion if he left right after his son leaves Colorado. Or is this waiting for Belichick? Because Belichick has to have a year in North Carolina. Or is this waiting for?

Well, they could have bought, I thought that Belichick had like a 10 million buyout. Oh, yeah, he had a buyout, but maybe that's- Also, Belichick didn't have a job. He could have been hired. So that's, I don't, when you're talking about Jerry Jones, I don't think it's wrong to think what's the master plan. Yeah, what circus show does he have lined up?

But looking out there, it's, I don't know. Does he have time for a bridge years? No, I don't think so. I think he's hiring Schottenheimer to be the head coach going forward. Yeah, Jerry likes to think he's really good at the general managing. Adam Thielen said, he says, quote, go ahead, Mike. I think I still have some football. He says, I think I still have some football in me. So final year, he's going into his final year of a, well he's 34 now.

Yeah. He's actually, he actually is getting older. Matthew Stafford plans to play in 2025 but will likely need a new contract about to turn 37. There you go. There you go. Alright, the full crew back together. It's time to hit the truth. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers? I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. Well, well, well, it's the wide receiver truth episode part two. It's we've been walking through every position group just went through the top.

How many did we get through in the first wide receiver? Ten? Your guess is as good as mine. I think we got through ten. Looks like ten. So we'll continue some more interesting storylines here. through 10. Looks like 10. So we'll continue some more interesting storylines here. Believe it or not, 2024 saw the most total receiving touchdowns from the wide receiver position in NFL history. I don't believe it. So you're gonna have to. It's just, it's facts. Facts, man. 11 different

wide receivers had nine or more receiving touchdowns. We only had six of those last year. But a couple of those guys, Rashad Bateman, Nick Westbrook Aquino. Yeah, I mean, touchdown superstar. That was a fun run in the middle of the season. One every two catches is a huge touchdown.

The defenses in the NFL employed zone 67% of the time. That's down from 71% last year. Pretty normal. Pretty normal, but it had been going up. We talked about this going into this season. It went from 64% to 67, 68, 71, and now it reverted a little bit more. So I mean, it's always a pendulum in the NFL.

As teams start adjusting to one thing, you go back and forth. And so today we'll get into some more names, starting with Mike Evans at number 11, a reminder. We're looking at a percent, a consistency score determined by the amount of great games a wide receiver has, which is 20 or more fantasy points. 12 and a half is our marker for good games. And bust games are fewer than seven and a half points. 12 and a half is our marker for good games and bust games are

fewer than seven and a half points and we do not include week 18 when you're not playing these guys. We want to know the truth, the reality when they were on your roster when the games mattered. What did they do? Tried and true. Hard to escape, Mike Evans at 11. Consistency rank of 12. I mean. That's wild. Like when you look at his game log, a consistency rank of 12. Yeah, I don't know.

It just feels strong with the amount of red in there. I mean you have 23% of his games, it was a bust. But he had so many really high level finishes. Yeah, when you look at the game log. 38% great. Like that, for me, of his games it was a bust but he had so many really high level finishes. Yeah when you look at the game 38% great like that for Mike Evans. That's very high. Yeah. The touchdowns right I mean the 11 more touchdowns a thousand yards missed three weeks before his bye so the middle of the season you didn't have him that hurt 46% good, 23% bust,

but this is the highest great percentage for Evans. Highest percentage of games 20 plus since we've been doing this series. Really? Yeah. That is shocking. Cause he's, you know, he's a deep downfield guy who's had monstrous performances over and over. So it was, I mean, it was interesting that this year he had so many massive performances, obviously towards the end of the year that I think they were trying to, once he got back from the injury they're trying to force him the ball a little bit more, especially the final two weeks

of the season. I mean obviously the last play of the season where they... It was so good. Yeah, it was the right thing to do. I'm so happy they did it. Get the man his record. Let him keep going on these thousand yard seasons. He got to 1,004. Do we think that, obviously, Chris Godwin went down week seven. He had some hit and miss games before that. His consistency in the first half

was worse than the second half when Godwin was going off. It seemed like it was a Godwin or Evans game kind of for the first seven weeks, but you know, new offensive coordinator for him too, but he's gone through a million of them. How are you going to view Mike Evans heading into 2025? He's now 31, he'll be 32. Being 32 with a new coordinator, they'll probably bring another wide receiver in, whether that's bringing Chris Godwin back or replacing him in the draft or free agency. I don't think Mike Evans will,

he's at the stage of his career where there's usually only two truths. Either he's lost it, right? They're like, you're gonna hold the bag and okay, this was the end. And that happens to all the greats. Andre Johnson was great until one year, he just showed up and then he wasn't.

Toast. Julio Jones, St. Paul. Oh yeah. Or he's going to be undervalued in drafts. He's gonna be a really good, because. Those are the only two. Those are the only two. You're just not gonna have him be drafted high enough

to what he deserves, so I think he'll be a good value. I do not believe the 32. Yeah, I would say he'll be in the fourth round. I could see him maybe even fall to the fifth. A little bit lower than that. What you know for sure is. He's just begging to be a my guy again, isn't he? Yeah.

They will do their best to get him 1,000 yards. That will be in play. Because then Kyle with well he he's tied right now with Jerry Rice am I remembering that right? Correct. So this if he if he gets it this year then that's Mike Evans record of most consecutive thousand yard seasons right? Yeah and it's all of them because he started out as a rookie doing it. That's wild. First ballot. He's working his way there, and he's not there yet. We'll talk about Jerry, Judy, in just a sec.

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Okay, so you're like, okay, that's, that's a terribly misaligned fantasy finish to consistency. Was barely drafted, right? Wide receiver 58 off the board, 13th round. First half of the season it was same old, same old for Jerry Judy. Wide receiver 71. If you were playing Jerry Judy over the first half of the year, it was detrimental to your fantasy football

lineup. And yet, 1,229 receiving yards, 90 catches, 145 targets, four touchdowns. Because in the second half of the season, he went on an absolute tear once Amarty Cooper was shipped off. Once we had Deshaun Watts in no longer quarterback, he was number 10 in consistency and battled his way with some monster performances all the way to wide receiver 12 13% great. Okay. 31% good. Okay. 31% bust. Like Jerry, Judy was like how many weeks into his breakout? Did it take before you would play him? Um,

two, because it coincided with the quarterback change, and I think that was the biggest. As soon as Jameis took over, we wanted Cedric Tillman, we wanted Elijah Moore, we wanted Jared Judy. It was Cedric Tillman at the beginning. Yeah, so you would throw these players in. It was nice that the- And then Tillman got hurt.

Yes. You weren't sure how much was the quarterback change versus how much was Amari Cooper being gone, because obviously those didn't happen at the exact same moment. I will say this, if you were to take the first six weeks away from Jerry Judy, that's when Amari Cooper was on the roster.

And just look at the season as a total from week seven on. And it didn't start great. Like week seven was one of his worst games of the season. But even including that- Is that the Watson injury game? I'm not sure the specifics of- Week seven was the Watson injury. Okay.

39% of snaps for Watson that week. So, even including that week, the whole season for Jerry Judy minus Amari Cooper, he was the wide receiver 13 in consistency, in our consistency metric. He's so bizarre though of, like we've been, Jerry, Jerry Judy has, I would say he's underperformed pretty drastically your hopes and your dreams for when he was drafted. Like he was in, he was in the Jefferson, or Jefferson draft class. Oh yeah.

Where, CD Lamb. Where Judy was the second wide receiver, I think you had Ruggs first, Oh yeah. Jefferson draft class. CD lamb. Where Judy was the second wide receiver. I think you had rugs first. It had been four years in Denver where you had, like, in end of season you had one, okay one, 972 yards, six touchdowns in year three with the Denver Broncos. But it's been an underperformance as a whole.

And then you get the first half of this. But then, now is this a, the genies out and the team's like, holy crap, we didn't even realize that this was part of the range of outcomes for Jerry Judy, which if you remember, they got him and they extended him. The Browns did believe that this was who Jerry Judy was. And if you want to give them credit for that,

that would be one of the few things you can give them credit for. By the way, news that Miles Garrett once out of Cleveland just came through. They did know that. They did believe this about Jerry Judy. Now, we're going on two consecutive years where your expectations for the best wide receiver

in Cleveland are letting you down for the first half of the year. And down for the first half of the year, and then in the second half of the year, when no Deshaun Watson, they go crazy. I mean, Amari Cooper was a league winner last year, two years ago. Now, Jerry Judy did it. So, you know, he needed the opportunity.

Now listen to this, 93% of his targets, they were tied or trailing. Yeah. I mean, they had to chuck it. That is part of, Miles, they are picking second. Yeah, the Miles Garrett news is really good news for David Njoku, for Jerry Judy,

for the fantasy implications of the Cleveland Browns. We don't know who the quarterback's gonna be. That's gonna be the major deciding factor for how Jerry Judy is viewed next year. But I do think he comes into this. I mean, they resigned him. So he's under contract through till 2027 with the Browns. He's their clear man now, their primary wide receiver. And he looked good. We've waited way too long. And so it feels like, I don't know, we know who Jerry Judy is.

We know he's an average guy, or Steve Smith would say he's just a guy. He's jacked. Oh yeah, the Steve Smith. Oh yeah. Put him in a body bag. He buried him, for sure. And so, you know, it's a little skeptical. I'm a little hesitant to just completely buy in because we've had a lot of years of him being just average. But what he did this year was above average. And I'm not just talking in

the counting stats. He was open. His route running, his yards after catch, they looked like kind of what you were drafting this guy for. So if they figure out anything with the quarterback and they got the number two pick, I mean, they could very easily end up with the first quarterback in the draft. It's rare you want to just project a half of a season but because his season was it was Amari Cooper it was tied into the change at quarterback and wide receiver his second half eight games that was a 1,700 yard pace with 120 catches on 178 targets. Put a 200 yard game in there. It'll help.

Yeah. So it was a big run for Jerry Judy. He will be a risk. No question. If it's a rookie quarterback, it's a risk. Is this the Jameis Winston? Is it Devante Parker? Right.

The round one wide receiver who gives you very little. And then year five, you're like, holy crap, there he is. I knew it. I knew I should believe in Jerry Judy the whole time. And then you go, oh no, no, it was just a year. What do you do when you look at George Pickens or you look at Jerry Judy next year? I think those are very fair names

to actually be in the same conversation. I don't think, I think most people would react and say Pickens. I don't know if that's the answer. Yeah, no, that's a fair comp. He'll probably go near him in the draft. Yeah, no, that's a fair comp. He'll probably go near him in the draft. You do have to keep in mind, Cedric Tillman looked like the dude. Yeah, he looked like he could play. And then he got the concussion that I still question

whether, I mean, we don't have any inside knowledge. It was obviously, it's never good when a player takes a month off from a concussion. More than a month. He has six games. And so you worry a little bit. However, the context of the situation was they were out of it. They were totally out of the running. They're playing more for a draft pick than anything else.

So rushing him back didn't make much sense. All right, well, I'm sure we'll have more conversations about Judy throughout the offseason, depending on what they find at quarterback. At 13, Lad McConkey at 13, consistency was 24th. First half, 39th in consistency. The first half, it was kind of, first half was like if Lad caught a touchdown pass, you were happy. It's like he's a rookie. But in the second half his consistency jumped up to 17 overall and he had games that didn't require a touchdown to be

relevant. You end up with a 112 target 82 for 1107 season. Hard to really have expected anything more than that from Ladd- McConkie. Delivered pretty much through injury over the back half of the year, battling injury. That will be part of his story. Can he stay healthy? But from week eight on, he was the wide receiver eight in fantasy. That is amazing. Yeah. The first seven weeks, he was on a yardage pace of 750 yards over the course of a season. From

that week eight point on he was on a yardage pace of over 1500 yards. Literally double the yardage. They figured something out and I mean this this just makes sense. First of all we talked about this on the truth of Justin Herbert. The team started completely running the ball, not letting Justin Herbert throw. And then as the season went along, they realized what they had in Herbert. And they, you know, this is his team. They let him throw a little bit more. And Ladd was, I mean, Ladd's a really good football player. This is a player that we all liked a lot coming into the season. We just weren't sure if the opportunities were going to be there in the

passing game for the offense. It seems like they will be well you had a playoff game where he had 14 targets and went 9 for 197 Yeah, and a touchdown went nuclear and when you compare him to other rookies What they have already given us in the NFL guys who were drafted arounds 1 through 3? Lad is in the 80th percentile for targets per route run. We love that. Yards per route run, fourth best over the last decade. He's right there with Beckham, AJ Brown, and Justin Jefferson in terms of a per route basis. So this is a player who is on a rocket.

Could the pendulum swing too far for Lad? Wow, yeah, it could. Let me give it to you. Yeah, his best ball ADP. Yeah, so best balls for the absolute degenerates and maniacs out there, best ball's open if you want to just have a good time. But right now, we're seeing an early best ball ADP of wide receiver, 10. That feels really...

That's spicy! That feels risky considering that this team is clearly an asset short in the receiving game. It seems like they're gonna draft. Right, so I would imagine whether maybe it's a tight end, maybe it's a premium pass catching tight end, maybe it's a... Maybe it's T Higgins. Yeah, maybe T Higgins comes up, but it definitely seems like we don't know yet. This is TBD on what the pecking order is next year. Lad McConkey, if they bring in someone really good, that person will, I think, leapfrog McConkey

from a volume perspective, even if it's not from a talent perspective, just from the size, stature, and style of play that McConkey has. That is ahead of AJ.J. Brown. Yeah. Terry McLaurin, JSN, Garrett Wilson, T. Higgins. You know.

It's hard, man. I probably would not have him slotted at 10, but I would have no problem putting him ahead of Garrett Wilson and JSN, McLaurin and Brown had probably put ahead of him. Yeah, Brown for sure. And then Higgins, depending on where he is. I mean, Higgins-McConkie should be a fair conversation, even if he stayed in Cincinnati.

Yeah, this one is brutal, because I want to be all chips in on Lad, but that wide receiver 10 is a, oh man. It's as spicy as it gets. Yeah, like that is projecting a very big jump. All right, here's a combo platter. Couple of Eagles wide receivers, one at 14, one at 24. We'll talk about them at the same time.

AJ Brown finished at 14. That's not great. Consistency rank though was nine overall. First half was number two, second half 21. So we'll talk about the drop off. Devante Smith consistency rank was 14. So better than his fantasy finish. Although in the second half, he dropped to number 20.

So to have two Eagles wide receivers on the edges of the top 20 in consistency, that is more the story I think. Is where are we headed as a team? And they could very well have put into practice both a strategy that disappoints us as fantasy players and wins them a title in a matter of days. Yeah, I mean the second half of the year, first of all, the Philly defense got better and better as the season went along. They had a couple of rookie corners in there that just like a lot of these rookie wide

receivers, go figure, they get better as the season goes along. And that happened, and as that happened and they had more leads, Saquon took over. This was, it's funny to think like this is Saquon's team like in one year All of a sudden this is Saquon Barkley's team when you've got Jalen Hurts AJ Brown and Yvonne Smith for a running back to come in and just be like you know It's not Derek Henry's team. You know it's Lamar Jackson's team But this is Saquon Barkley's team And so that's where I think in the second half of the year and going into next season, like you said Andy, it works. Not for fantasy,

but it works in winning ball games which is what they care about. The passing game, the total passing stats are going to be down if they're winning ball games, if they've got good defense, and if Saquon is healthy. Yeah, and people will wanna talk about what is Jalen Hurts capable of. I think if they need him to throw the football, these guys are gonna have big fantasy production. If they don't need him to throw the football,

he's been reined in a little bit. On their, did we talk about, they'll probably have a new OC, well not probably. Most likely they will with Kellen Moore. Yeah, how does that make you feel? Being lined up for the Saints job. Gut reaction to another turnover at offensive coordinator. Yeah, it's not good.

I mean, you saw it with the Eagles be a very big negative a couple of years ago. And so it could very well be a negative again. Yeah, and you had the, you know, I'm looking at the game log here. You had a few times where both guys had disastrous weeks, right like week 11 Why'd she be 36 and 55? Week 14 wide receiver 46 28 so they can win games without these guys right at this moment, but

You know AJ Brown finishing as the wide receiver 14 being drafted as wide receiver 6 last year Where do you think he will go? AJ Brown like are you gonna are people gonna try not to draft AJ Brown or they're gonna try to draft AJ Brown When push comes to shove and you see the names next to each other. He'll be very high He'll be the back like Drake London or AJ Brown I will probably be on the Drake London side. I think ADP will still have AJ Brown. Malik neighbors are AJ Brown. I'll be on the neighbors side. Yeah. Brown will be a fringe wide receiver

one in terms of ADP. I mean, underdog, he's sitting behind all those guys. Yeah, right now he finishes the wide receiver 14, but he missed three weeks. So he was a wide receiver one on the season. 15 was Devontae Adams who we talked about on the last episode with Garrett Wilson so 16 is Jordan Addison. Now this one's you know 16 outside the top 12 I get it still feels higher than he what he seemed to have represented for your team is because- The big games in the back. I mean, you have an overall number one- Big games in the back.

Yeah, you got a big back, Jordan Addison. He had a number one overall finish. Two weeks later he was number three with actually more points than he scored in his number one output. So when you, like those types of performances, that's multiple games in one. So it juices you up to wide receiver 16. Yeah, he was 22 in consistency. First half 46 seemed irrelevant. In fact, you know, if you traded for Haddison in a dynasty,

probably didn't feel great the first half of the year. No, no. And that's not even counting the games he missed. The first half of the year. No, no. And that's not even counting the games he missed in the first half of the year. Our consistency metric only scores you for the games that you started. And so it was worse than that and he was 46, but the second half of the year

really clicked in this offense. It worked with being on the other side of Justin Jefferson and he looked really special. I mean, over and over, there were plays where I did feel like I was watching the game. I remember towards the end of the year, in certain situations where I was rooting for Justin Jefferson, and the ball would fly down the field,

and you're just thinking, oh, is that going to Jefferson? And there, it would look just like Jefferson coming open, like wide open, and then it's just a smaller version, and it's Jordan Addison. Yeah, the second half he was the widest year of 15 in consistency, so pretty impressive. Big play threat, can have those explosive games

like Mike said. I mean, 19 touchdowns through two seasons. That was the number I think we all expected to come way down. Yeah. Yeah. He ends up with nine, on 99 targets, and that was with missing, what, all expected to come way down. Yeah. He ends up with nine on 99 targets. And that was with missing, what, two weeks to start the year? Yeah, losing Kirk Cousins and being 175 pounds, you do not expect high touchdown volume.

But the big plays, man. The big plays. What was the total? 63 receptions. So that is, that's low. In fact, only three players over the last decade had multiple seasons of nine plus receiving touchdowns They're on 70 or fewer and he's one of them Marvin Jones did it Remember the great Marvin Jones touchdown and then Mike Evans does it because he's Mike Evans, right?

It feels like like I think that the player is very very good But for where he finished and where he might be drafted compared to how it comes, I'm gonna be scared. So the truth to me of Jordan Addison is I'm worried. Because you still don't know the quarterback either. Yeah, I think that's being reflected in some of the early best ball, Widershear 28 off the board, despite finishing at 16.

That feels right. I would love to take him at 28 because there's- I'm fine with 28. You know, this is a very inconsistent player, but when you get to this range of wide receivers, all of them are... we say this every year, but they're all inconsistent. No one here is just like, oh, really high floor never has bad games. I want the guys in this range that, okay, you're going to have bad games because all of them are going to have bad games. Which one could go out there and be the wide receiver one on a week the

wide receiver three on a week and he obviously did that yeah I was just I was just glancing at some of the T.Y. Hilton seasons Hilton had some good years that sounds cuz that pretty that seemed compared well he'll never a touchdown he'll never got the nine touchdown yeah but you know total receptions and some of the big yardage numbers were there at 17 was T Higgins what a what a weird year he was awesome consistency guys five my mind's being blown a little bit yeah you don't realize first he was first half was 14 second half half, two. Yeah. The first month of the season was disaster for the Bengals.

The Bengals got off to a bad start. Joe Burrow started a little slow. T. Higgins was injured the first two weeks. The next two weeks coming back was not good. Didn't get 10 fantasy points for the first month of the season. So I think we were, like your mind being blown right now, if you didn't have T. Higgins and you didn't get 10 fantasy points for the first month of the season. So I think we were, like your mind being blown right now, if you didn't have T. Higgins and you didn't ride that experience later,

you know, you started off really pessimistic about T. Higgins. And so if you didn't have him, that's why this episode exists, to make sure you know like, he was really good. In the games he actually played in, he busted only 18% of the time. That is a very good number He was 64% of the time good 27% of the time great

You know Joe burrow was magma and obviously Jamar chase number one wide receiver gets all the love But I don't think a lot of people realize how good T. Higgins was. How do you reconcile what we've known for a while? T. Higgins can come up with monster games, has a great quarterback, can be a top performer with what you also had to deal with. I mean, I was on this show, hosting this show, watching a man shrivel up and die

five different times this year, not to mention other games where he actually did play, but you weren't sure. The injuries had been a problem. He played one full season in his career. It was his rookie season. He hasn't played a full one since he missed five games this year with hamstring quad injuries. That has always been part of the story is you want them out there, not just for T Higgins sake' sake, but for Jamar Chase's sake, but through five seasons, he hasn't been able to give you a fantasy finish inside the top 15 because he doesn't play enough.

Yeah, it's definitely injury. I mean, injury is his problem. When he's out there playing and finishing games, because he has been known to exit games early, if he's playing, he's good. And so, you know, we just can't actually predict injury. And there are lots of players who have the injury prone label who bucket and then they, you know, the next thing you know, they're Ironman for a couple of seasons. So I'm not going to hold the injuries

against it. Yes. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. I was trying to figure out the cool reverence. No, like he buckets. Yeah. No, it's like the horse. Yeah, no. You buck. Bucking bronco. Buck it off. Yeah. What's your thoughts on all of the experience, Mike? Is this one you're going to be going back to the well on?

I will. You will? I will. You? Yeah. You've been hurt so much. But here's the thing is, yes, there are many pains, but there are many pains from many fantasy football wide receivers out there who can't give you

what T. Higgins can give you. Mike is in an unhealthy relationship with T. Higgins. Yeah, for sure. Because T. Higgins can hurt Mike 100 times, but if he helps Mike once, it's like all is forgiven. I wouldn't go there, but I would say that T Higgins, yeah, he hasn't been a top 15 guy, but in three of five seasons,

he's been wide receiver 22, 17, 19. I mean, he's- That is the Terry McLaurin experience before his big year. So it's- Can he go be the number one if he doesn't stay in Cincinnati? Like if he goes to the Chargers heck

Yeah, is that better than him staying in Cincinnati? I think it is If you're a place that I would project as good as the Chargers It would probably be neutral because I think you can go be a number one But this isn't like I don't think he can be Jamar chase. He can't be Jefferson but he could be like Mike Evans numbers't think he can be Jamar Chase. He can't be Jefferson, but he could be, like Mike Evans numbers? T Higgins can do that. He was so tough this year because you drafted him, Mike.

Yeah. Then he got hurt and didn't play the first two weeks. Then he played two weeks and did nothing. Well, hold on. He got, it was announced he was hurt like an hour after I drafted him. So your first four weeks were completely, you lost him completely.

Oh yeah. Then you get him back for three weeks, two of them were great. And then he got hurt and he missed three more weeks. Yeah, that's the one that really hurt. Yeah, that's the one that made you sell and feel like you were done. But that's seven, that's eight of 10 weeks

to start the year that you were unhappy. Yeah, he's a wild card. He's a weird player, man. This is why I'm always on this side of, I doubt, like we create the the perfect dynamic tension on Higgins on this show Because I am always Focused on the negative of T Higgins and you are always focused on the positive and the truth is in the middle

Well, yeah I mean the truth is when he's when he plays is good and he doesn't play too often and that stinks But I'm not gonna try to draft a guy based on knowing future injuries Instead I'm gonna draft a guy he he averaged fifteen and a half fantasy points per game this season in half PPR And if you don't know where that ranks Justin Jefferson who was number two on the season was fifteen point six fantasy points It's basically the same that's It's pretty powerful. Let's take a break. We'll talk about a player that Kyle won't want to talk about.

All right, drafted by Kyle as the wide receiver 48. Somewhere in the 10th, 11th round, maybe not drafted at all, 23 year old, Jameson Williams comes in at 18. But don't worry, his consistency rank was even better at 15. Was this a tough year for you, Kyle? Having to come to terms with Jameson and everything that you thought about him being wrong? He's fine so look

I Jamison Williams was I'll say this he was valuable for fantasy football on a regular basis and if you traded him like I did in one league off of the first couple of weeks of success I guess it was okay. I mean, missed a couple weeks, had some big weeks towards the end of the season. I know he was he was a playoff guy. He was a playoff winner. 29% great, 43% good. Those numbers are pretty pretty good. 29% bust. You don't like that. But for a guy that was not that was completely doubted his ability in the NFL to to break out to be a meaningful player to me he passes the eye test and always has mm-hmm you know like a Jalen Waddle across the middle of the

field just when the ball's in his hands yeah very give them an end around when they want to take a deep shot and you need separation, Jameson Williams brings a lot of explosiveness to the offense. Well, and this is an offense you want pieces of. This was the number one offense in the NFL. They were number three the last time. Obviously, they're going to have an offensive coordinator shift and that could hurt them. But that could also help Jameson Williams be utilized more as a primary

wide receiver too. There's a guy who still only caught 58 passes this year. So even though his consistency was okay because he had the big plays, over 1,000 yards, it's, he wasn't the possession, regular, consistent, high volume type of player that you wish he could be like a Jalen Waddle a couple of years ago because that Amon Ross soaks all that up. So it's possible that that changes here in his favor but I do think going into next year everyone's

going to assume the Lions are a very good offense. They've still got a great offensive line and a lot of continuity between the players even though you've got a coaching change. So Jameson Williams stepped up, showed that he can be a legitimately important fantasy asset and a legitimately impactful lion for their team. So you have to imagine it. It sticks and it stays if it doesn't even just get better. There, there, I'm not, I'm not going to say he will do this because I think he, he has to prove the work ethic to become this kind of player. But I do think it's in front of him in Detroit.

But I do, I remember being here on the show and talking about another player that we thought was really limited back in 2016, that had 61 receptions that year that looked really explosive, but didn't get the kind of work, wasn't well-rounded. Do you know who I'm talking about? No. I do not. Tyreek Hill.

Tyreek Hill was not considered by anybody coming out of 2016 to be the next great thing at the position. Jameson Williams was drafted with the capital to do that. That's all I'm saying. Now whether he's got the work ethic to go put that in and become that kind of player, I don't know, but you've got, you had a lot of people

that thought Tyreek Hill was a one-trick trick pony and he became a well-rounded receiver. And I just, I don't know if that's what Jameson Williams future will be, but I do believe that if you gave, if the lions needed to throw the ball more, like he was the opposite of Jerry Judy. He had the, the lowest percentage of his yards and fantasy points when trailing because the lions were winning almost every game and yet he put up a number like this so when you talk about is the pathway forward there for him will the Lions be the number one offense always leading will the running game be as effective those are things that could change the story for James Williams in some capacity I thought you were gonna go a different direction with your saying like how you were on this podcast last

year giving the warnings of Brandon Iyuk. Yeah. Of who was on a great team, a high powered offense, has a good defense, has this unbelievable level of efficiency where Iyuk the magical year two ago, he was at 17.9 yards per reception on 75 catches, 75 touchdowns, Jameson Williams. 75 touchdowns. Or sorry, seven, Jameson Williams, 58 catches, 17.3, seven touchdowns.

They're very similar. Very similar. He was incredibly efficient. Big play dependent. Now, volume can go up for Jamison Williams. 91 targets, that's a number that you could see going up. But it's, I think he is difficult because it was so, it was his huge plays.

And those can bounce back and forth. I'm not saying he can't kind of replicate this, but it is very difficult. It's the third highest great game percentage behind Evans and Chase. And he missed two games. So you got to factor that into where his fantasy finish was. I think he's going to be super interesting.

Coming into his prime, 24 years old. I'm going to be in on Jameson Williams, no matter what Kyle says. Yeah, I know Kyle really hates him. Kyle just despises Jameson Williams. Yeah, yeah. Kyle has won that argument two of three years. So it's still, the point is still on his side.

I'm not giving him any credit, no. Oh, okay. I like that approach. I see, I do. Because, I mean, you're gonna give Kyle credit for, you know, his gambling problems. You care about back then or now? You know what I mean? Right. Would you rather have Jameson Williams or Addison? I'd rather have Jameson Williams. Same. Cortland Sutton comes in at 19. Good for you, man. Wider Super 49 off the board, 16 in consistency.

Was the same old guy in the first half again. Rookie quarterback. 30 second in, yeah, but exactly. Like the same problems for Sutton. Quarterback consistency. You're a good player, but you know, the ball finds you sometimes. Second half he was the seventh most consistent player. This should tell you everything you need to know about Coralyn Sutton.

He's on one of my teams. What does that mean? Yeah what does that mean? What that means is that like I would never be caught dead with Coralyn Sutton on any of my teams. Now he's on what he I intentionally put him on my team. I got it. I got you. He's on the championship team with Al Borland who just held up his Corlund Sutton Trophy. That's right. I mean, that's where I became a believer this year in him as at least the alpha for Bo Nix

and if the wide receiver core doesn't change a lot, he'll still be of value next year. There's no way he's gonna go anywhere near wide receiver 15, 16 where he is in consistency. It certainly seems like he will be their wide receiver 15 16 where he is in consistency it certainly seems like he will be their wide receiver one next year they've got a lot of other holes to replace they've got to fix the running game I don't you just don't you feel the whole you feel the whole I just never heard him replacing the holes but go on

that's fair I think so the. So the Ultimate Draft Kit. With another hole? That's what it sounds like. You put an even bigger one? You put the, replace the hole with another hole. I don't know. We did what you asked, sir. We replaced the hole.

Yeah, man. You can't tell, but it's a new hole. You instead replaced the hole. So the Ultimate Draft Kit, the dynasty portion of that, it drops on Sunday. We're working. We probably should have mentioned that while you were gone earlier. Yeah, we're working on all of that content right now. Our dynasty startup rankings will be live.

If you're an Ultimate Foot Clan member, you already have access to that on Sunday. Our dynasty startup rankings, rookie rankings, those type of stuff will launch, but I bring all that up to say Courtland Sutton was the hardest player for me to figure out where to put in a dynasty league because he's 29 years old. I do expect next year he is their wide receiver one. How much improvement or regression from Bo Nix on a touchdown. He had eight touchdowns this year, which is a pretty good number, especially for a rookie. So it's like, okay, I think he's got one more good year, but eventually they're going to

have to step it up, add to this wide receiver core. I think I agree with you that I don't think they're going to add to that core this off season. I don't either. I think where they need help is gonna be, protect Bo Nicks and get a running back. Yeah, they need a running back bad. Sean Payton really wants to have a running game

and it's impossible, you just can't. Sutton was very consistent, 50% good games, only 6% great. So it turned into a very consistent experience with Corbin Sutton, double digits almost every week down the stretch. Seventh inconsistency. You know, it's great. It's awesome to see. And he was interesting of he was far more productive against man coverage instead of zone.

So maybe the down tick there that we mentioned at the top of the show of defenses running zone going down a little bit because like man yards per route run it's over three like that's incredible and then zone it was down under two yards per route run so it may be more predictable with moving forward with him with that information if we can you know get a hold of which defenses are preferring to go with man coverage. I mean it makes sense for the prototype of wide receiver that he is. He's the traditional X wide receiver where it's like the bigger guy, let's let him win a 50-50 ball. There's going to be some contract problems here too. He's going into the last year of his deal. He wanted to get an extension this last year, couldn't get it done. So I don't know if you're gonna have hold-in,

trade requests, whatever. I don't know that the Broncos are wanting to extend the 29-year-old wide receiver for a long time. ["Breaking News"] Breaking news. Portland Sutton just signed a contract extension, Jason. Yeah, that sounds, I feel like we've done that before. We did that. Oh my gosh. That's not true, though. For reference, no that's not true no that is oh if that was true that was impossible that would

be impossible because the last time he signed one you you also said he wouldn't sign one yeah you were in the middle of saying yeah would not sign one and he had just signed that was him yeah I mean that bodes well for his bank account good callback Mike three more names I wanna talk about. Number 20 was Tyreek Held, number 23 is Puka Nakua, and number 26 is Nico Collins. Let me skip Tyreek for a second and circle back. Puka came in at 23 because he missed a bunch of time, but his consistency rank was three.

So the story of- Puka and Nico are easy. Yeah, and Puka came in at 26, missed a bunch of time, consistency rank of 6. Let me just ask you, which of those two guys would you rather have? Puka. I'll take... In a redraft, it was me immediately wanting to say... I wanted to say Puka right off the bat, but I'm also remembering, like I had a hard time

with these two guys in dynasty. I think Puka is the better player. I think he will be better for fantasy as well but long term when one of them is tied to CJ Stroud and one of them is tied to a player that could retire any minute so yeah look 73 percent good games for puka 64 percent for Nico both had 18 percent bust rates both had 18 percent great games, both were outstanding. I mean, Nico was first five weeks the best wide receiver there was in fantasy.

And Puka during the ten games he played after getting injured in week one, coming back he was 16.1 fantasy points per game. So that would have been the wide receiver two ahead of Justin Jefferson. And right now in basketball it is going the Puka direction. It's wide receiver three for Puka, wide receiver two ahead of Justin Jefferson. And right now in basketball, it is going the puka direction. It's wide receiver three for puka, wide receiver five for Niko Collins. I don't think that there is as much confidence with the way the offensive system ran in Houston and now having to make a change as there is with Sean McVey

and the consistency of getting puka the ball every possible way in Los Angeles. In a redraft league, I don't have any hesitation to take Puka over Nico. It's just in a dynasty league that's a question mark. Nico was unbelievably great in the beginning of the year. However, he had a handful of disappearing games

down the stretch once he came back from injury. And whether that was Stroud, whether that was Stroud whether that was Nico whether it was just you know the losses of digs and Tank Del forcing you know defensive coverage on Nico whatever was it happened and it happened more than we would have liked like you said the second half consistency for Nico he was the 27th most consistent one here's a wonderful crossover for you too the Texans literally just hired Nick Nick Kaley from the Rams to be their offensive coordinator.

Oh man, he's got that toilet de McVeigh. He was the passing game coordinator and tight ends coach. And you know what, I'm in. Oh, I'm in. I'm in for sure. Yeah, I mean, it's good. Less Slowick, more not Slowick is also good. Tyreek Hill came in at 20,

he was drafted as the wide receiver one. Oh man. I tried. But he missed a bunch of games. Nope. Oh, he missed no games. He played the entire season. Yeah, he did.

And did not get a thousand yards. Is he the biggest bust in fantasy? Probably not the biggest bust. Not injury-based. But he's... He's a bigger bust than ETN is. I think he is the biggest disappointment because Tyree Kill, when you were...

I mean, Tyree Kill in some leagues was the 101. I mean, a lot of times it was, are you afraid of Christian McCaffrey? Well then play it safe. Play it safe, get Tyree Kill. Oh man, both sucked. 13 it safe, get Tyree killed. Oh man, both sucked. 13% great, 31% good, 38% bust, holy moly.

Yeah, and the reason I wouldn't say he's the biggest bust in fantasy football last year is like that whole first half, week one was great. He was the QB four. They lose two for a huge stretch of games. You blamed it all on that. You didn't think it would be that bad as it was, where he's like in the 50s.

He did nothing without Tua. And then Tua comes back, and you got something. Tyreeky wasn't unplayable. Travis Etienne was, if you put him in the lineup, you knew you were going to get punched in the face. But Tyreke's at least giving you games, he's just not giving you anything close to the wide receiver one. Does the wrist injury, do you buy it?

I do not buy it because he played 17 games. However, let's take a closer look at weeks eight through 16. That's when Tua came back and that was 100% of the time playing with Tua. During that stretch of games, he was averaging 12.1 fantasy points. Yes, that's not terrible. He would have had a season-long 1,020 yards, 9.4 touchdowns. It's not terrible. It's certainly not worthy of the first or second pick in a draft.

Almost half his yardage from last year. Yeah. And so you don't, I mean you don't look at this situation and think, well it should get better. You know, now he's going into year 31. Has he become the Cooper Cup of the draft season? Remember where Cooper Cup was, you know, lower than people, you know,

the tantalizing value, getting older, but maybe you can get another cup, you know how people treated Cooper Cup? I getting older, but maybe you can get another cup seat. You know how people trade a cup? I'm very curious where Tyreek Hill is drafted. With what he's done. Early under, or I'm sorry, best ball, wide receiver 17. Oh, wow. I thought, I think in redraft leagues,

he might go higher than that simply because of the name. Yeah, home leagues you mean? I think it's gonna be brutal for people to pass on Tyreek Hill to take Jackson Smith and Jigma. simply because of the name. Yeah, home leagues you mean? Yeah. I think it's gonna be brutal for people to pass on Tyreek Hill to take Jackson Smith and Jigma. Exactly. Or Garry Wilson or Terry McLaurin. Exactly.

Those will be, yeah. And I'll do it. I absolutely think you'll take a moment. I think I will pass Tyreek. Oh, pass on Tyreek. Yeah. Well, there's a fragility with the quarterback. I mean, you now know, you knew that was there but you

thought you had kind of gotten past it and then last year you thought maybe he lost his quarterback for the whole year. I mean they've had to have too many starts from too many guys not named to a tongue of a tongue. Everyone needs a good backup quarterback but they really need to. They need Joe Flacco. Like yeah you need you need someone like that where you can feel confident that if two of them misses a couple games, we're not just buried in the bottom of the ocean. Give me Jamus or give me death. We like Jamus for fantasy.

I don't know if people want Jamus to win football games. That's all I care about. I want Jamus to be the- DTR got starts over Jamus for no good reason. I was to lose. It was a great reason for them. I feel like- I like the Mavs trade.

... Jamus should be the NFL backup. You made it through the whole show. I did. I feel great. How are you doing? I'm empty. I'm doing real well, hollowed out inside. How are you doing? You got a trophy.

I do. It's pretty sweet. I don't think it's big enough for you. No, no. That would overflow. You got a trophy I do it's pretty sweet. I don't think it's big enough for you new new That was that what how many episodes of the show have we done now how many what is it show 17 So 1,000 718 first time we've pulled that off. Yeah All right, I still blame Mike for coming in late, oh man Course I would have been mid show in late. Oh man. Of course, that would have been mid-show. Thank you Mike.

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