Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Top 10 Things to Remember + Jason’s Little Black Book - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/29

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Welcome in. Excited to have you with us, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore, Mike, the Fantasy Hitman Wright. I'm Andy Holloway. Jason is in writing position. What is happening over here? I'm just doing some research. Just doing some stats. Doing some stats on our quick question here coming up.
Starting point is 00:01:49 All I see is the price of Bitcoin down on your... Is that what that is? That is not. Oh, okay. All right. Welcome in, one and all. We've got a fun show. The 10 Things to Remember episode.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Fresh off of a, as far as i'm concerned fantastic season of fantasy football oh in a great year great year right here the great year for the show great year for me personally yeah i mean just i had a good time so uh there's lots to remember i mean jason you probably remember i remember the playoffs and i remember my championship. I think Papa Josh. What in 2022? What was that? Papa Josh, you probably remember a lot from this past year too, right? I mean, you had a good time. It was a great time, except for the ending.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Yeah, so we're doing our 10 things to remember. Jason, did all of your items this year on the show, as we count them down later, did they all come from your little black book? Yeah, basically. This year, it was one of those things where I wanted to remember them in the moment because we're all goldfish other than Mike. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:54 That's why I don't even remember your championship from 2022. Right. Thank you. So it's like when I see these lessons, in fact, one of the things that I am bringing up today was something I told Brooks on the show, mid-show. I was like, hey, Brooks, you got to remind me to bring this up on the things to remember because it was a lesson we had learned. And I'm like, this is something I can't forget. I forgot all about it. So Brooks brought it up.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Brooks brought it up because that was his job. He was ordered to do it, and he obeyed well. And so, yeah, thank you, Brooks. So, Jay, when you are post-mortem, we'll put it that way, is your little black book going to be the thing that's auctioned off? Yeah, probably. Probably. You know, like the celebrity stuff. Is it just numbers and stats and little notes? going to be the thing that's auctioned off yeah probably probably you know you're like
Starting point is 00:03:45 the celebrity stuff or is it just numbers and stats or in little notes or little memoirs in there no it's all like it's it's today i got one for you okay uh today i traded cd lamb for jaylen waddle yeah it was that in there no less of a diary. Okay. It's just pictures of stick men. Yeah. There's nothing in that book, man. Oh, my gosh. That's the great trick. All these years later, you've never written anything in it. No one has ever actually seen inside, so you don't know what the contents are.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And someday after I die, you're going to go over there and you're going to open the book, and you're going to turn page by page. You're going to say, this book you're going to open the book and you're going to turn page by page you're going to say this book is empty these are all blank pages there's literally nothing in this book just a few Braveheart quotes in there we're excited about today's show can't wait to get into it
Starting point is 00:04:38 got a quick question that was snuck in here by Kyle that we'll get to in a moment quick reminder it's the last day. The last one? Yeah, it's your last chance. Get into, or head over to ultimatedraftkit.com.
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Starting point is 00:05:19 clock's ticking the quick question that kyle snuck in is because we had some conversation briefly on slack and you know some people are just debbie downers and don't want to look on the bright side of anything but some of us are randy realists that was the first name that popped in my head uh so the question is is there hope for jameson williams in 2024 is he worth a late round pick in redraft? And this all came out of head coach Dan Campbell at a press conference was asked about Jameson Williams. And, like, his quote is, he's going to push to be a full-time starter.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And that's what we're looking for. Everyone grows at a different rate. Maybe it's taking him a little bit longer. He's developing. He's come on. We have high hopes for him, et cetera. Now, to the haters, this is just like a big sarcasm party because it's like, wow, the guy you drafted at 12 has a chance to be a starter.
Starting point is 00:06:21 The guy you drafted. Trade it up for him. Yeah, the guy you drafted at 32. So I see which side you both are on. At 32, 34, and 66. Those were the picks used to convert them. Just need full context of how hilarious it is for a head coach to be saying about a player going into year three, drafted 12th.
Starting point is 00:06:39 The 12th player drafted is trying to be a full-time starter. He's going to make a push. He's going for it. He's going to make a push to be a full-time starter. He's going to make a push. He's going for it. He's going to make a push to be a full-time starter. So I know what side both of you are on, which is to make fun of this comment. But this is a player that didn't play until, what, 13 weeks into his rookie season. It was basically a lost season. Last year didn't play until week five.
Starting point is 00:07:03 So I'm not saying – and this is him acclimating to a team that had an identity a lost season. Last year didn't play until week five. This is him acclimating to a team that had an identity without him that was a winning football team that obviously he has not matured as fast as maybe some have hoped, but he also missed a significant amount of time. The whole argument
Starting point is 00:07:19 of like, you can read this quote and be like, well, that's awesome because we all watched him play football. And when he had snaps and opportunities, he made big-time plays at the NFL level. He just didn't get a lot of those opportunities last year. That's my view. I mean, he had significant plays in the playoffs and in the regular season. There weren't a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So when you tell me, hey, this guy who's super explosive, like, I mean, he has the physical ability of a Jalen Waddell, right? Yeah, absolutely. Big plays, doesn't need as many opportunities as other players because his plays are going to be big ones. And you tell me he might be on the field every time, I have a little bit of optimism. When he was coming out, he was my number two ranked wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:08:04 The talent, the speed, outrageously high ceiling. I totally understand, obviously, missing most of your rookie season. You knew that with his injury. And I do get the fact that when he came in, you know, he missed the first four weeks this last year. And when he got back on the – Due to suspension, just in case people were wondering what happened. Betting suspension, not performance and answers.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Made some dumb bets and got suspended. So week five he comes in and he comes into a team that, like you said, Andy, was they were established. They were winning. They were succeeding. The offense was clicking. And so you didn't necessarily have to have him come in and and say well now that we got this guy let's change let's change who we are now they've got a whole offseason program
Starting point is 00:08:51 they can integrate him more I I think is there hope for Jamison Williams yes there is hope there is a clear path if I have to be a betting man say, do I believe he's going to hit to the ceiling that he has? I would bet against that because he still has been on the field a lot. The, after the bye week, when they had that chance to integrate him a little bit more, they did. He was on the field after the bye week for, what was that? Nine total games, he was on the field for over 60% of the snaps. 61% from week 10 on. Yeah, and he had one game where he scored 10 fantasy points. He averaged 6.5 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:09:34 He didn't do pretty much jack squat with all those reps. So, okay, you get him up to 80%. Maybe that's him being a full-time player. He's going to need to do more, not just snaps on the field, but more with his snaps on the field. His targets per route run, you know, the behind-the-scenes metrics, they're just not good. And when you've seen a player on the field as much as him,
Starting point is 00:09:57 I know it feels like we haven't seen him on the field, but that's the point and that's the problem. He's been on the field and you haven't seen it. He's been on the field some. He's been on the field and you haven't seen it. He's been on the field some. He's been on the field a lot. Some. For. And very few.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I mean, the targets started to go up at the end of the year. So he had some games where he was getting targeted more. You're talking about a top 12 pick in the NFL draft. I'm not writing him off with. He has basically a season worth of games, right? I mean, he played a handful of games in his rookie year and then he missed the beginning of this one. So he's got a season worth of games, right? I mean, he played a handful of games in his rookie year, and then he missed the beginning of this one, so he's got a year full of games.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So, look, hope, that's a pretty easy bar to say, okay, we think he's got some hope. What does it translate to? So here's the ironic thing. The second part of the quick question was, is he worth a late round pick in redraft? Absolutely. So we're going to talk about that on today's episode.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Oh, yeah. I got an answer. So my answer now is yes. Yeah. I like players like Jamison Williams next year as a flyer more than I like taking some run of the mill veteran that has a baseline of catches that won't do anything to help me win my league. So my opinion for Williams.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But you're saying my opinion might change based on what you say. His best ball ADP, Kyle's giving it to us right now. He says wide receiver 49 in the ninth round. That's absolutely, at that point, what are the signs of life for anybody? What are the signs of talent? So I am perfectly fine with that. Yeah, when Mike gets to his first thing to remember this this applies yeah it actually multiples for him so his uh his targets per route run or yards per route run through two years is at 1.42 I'm actually we're going to highlight a
Starting point is 00:11:38 couple things later on in the show talking elaborating more uh that. And is that a red flag, green flag, those types of things. But the quote is just hilarious. Like, that's what it is to me. This conversation is, it's unfortunate the way that the career has gone for Jamison Williams. But for your coach to say a guy drafted number 12 overall is pushing to be a starter, it tickles my funny bone, but in the ninth round, I'm all for that. And also, the last thing I forgot to mention, right now Josh Reynolds is a free agent,
Starting point is 00:12:15 which Josh Reynolds is not a superstar, but Josh Reynolds had a very distinct role for this Lions offense, and if Jamison Williams can take over that role and expound upon it by being a better talent on the field, good things could happen. He had Josh Reynolds will be the freest of agents after those drops. Josh Reynolds played 71% of the Lions snaps. There you go.
Starting point is 00:12:43 News and notes from around the league oh man i forgot the i forgot the playoff game yeah yeah it wasn't good oh no johnny smith has been released the falcons uh saving some money letting johnny go he made 35 million dollars over the last three years good for you johnny uh and and his entire job for those three years was to make hunter henry and kyle pitts managers upset that was all he was doing uh because no one ever started stay away from the chiefs john don't you dare oh yeah uh mvs i do i do think this is actually news for kyle pitts though because you know kyle pitts it was also reported that he is healthy from his knee injury um we know they're gonna have a quarterback change it's tbd on that but Kyle Pitts, it was also reported that he is healthy from his knee injury.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We know they're going to have a quarterback change. It's TBD on that. But Kyle Pitts now becomes the tight end. You know, there's not a secondary tight end. Because Johnnie Smith took a lot of work away and was kind of in the role that we wanted to see more opportunities for Pitts in, like the easy stuff. Give Pitts some of the easy stuff. Don't just fly him down the field. Obviously, a new offensive scheme coming in,
Starting point is 00:13:46 but I think we'll see Kyle Pitts used better and get, obviously, more of the targets. Jason's back in. I feel myself inching back in. Uh-oh. The Chiefs release Marquez Valdez-Scantling saves them. Two-time Super Bowl champion. $12 million.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Key cog on a couple of plays. And goodbye. Sayonara. They're working to get Chris Jones locked up. That's the big agenda. And you know that because they franchise tagged LeJarius Sneed, and they have now given him permission to seek a trade, which he will do, and I think he will find, and then he'll get paid.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And so they are willing to let him go potentially. The mock drafters out there, mock as in real NFL drafts, man, they are tantalizing us all with some wide receiver names at the end of the first that would cause quite a stir. Oh, we've seen 10 of them and i and and that's the clyde spot so beware that's where clyde edwards allaire shows up yeah it's not gonna stop me from being excited it's true you take a first round wide receiver there and you put him with my homes in a place where he needs it out hold on on. Troy Franklin? Yeah. I've seen Franklin, Worthy, Brian Thomas. I've seen Adonai Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:15:10 The list goes on. We've got – we'll see who Patrick – if Patrick Holmes has a recommendation. Yeah, don't take it. Don't take it. Don't go away from that one. Yeah. You make the pick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Let the team do its thing man all right uh the buccaneers are moving towards re-signing mike evans first belt hall of famer uh jason light uh i like that you're on board with it it's fun you have no choice i mean he's a my guy yeah i mean um he says uh their g, we're going to do whatever we can to make sure that he's a buck. Including releasing Shaq Barrett. Yeah, which they did. And then Chris Ballard said on Wednesday that Michael Pittman will be on the Colts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And he said whether that's via franchise tag or contract extension. So Higgins, Pittman, probably not going anywhere. He's money. Yeah, you said that he'd get paid. I wasn't positive. Oh, he's going. He will get paid. All right, any other news, Brooks?
Starting point is 00:16:20 You got anything for us? No, sir. Well, did you see Zach Wilson? Oh, yes. He was granted permission to seek a trade. Which I saw that, and I thought Groundhog Day was going on because I thought that was news like a month ago. All right, so am I misremembering that, or did they put it out there?
Starting point is 00:16:38 I don't remember that. And there were no takers, so they're just like doing a whole new press cycle? Like it never happened? Like the guy who puts the guy in the trading block the next week after no one makes him any offers? They're like, hey, check this out. I got a player who you may be interested in. You ever pulled the guy off the trading block on sleeper
Starting point is 00:16:55 because then if you put him back on the block, it sends another notification? Who hasn't done that? I hope they start reporting. For the first time ever, we are making Zach Wilson available. Are USFL teams allowed to trade for NFL players?
Starting point is 00:17:13 I don't know. Because I think that could happen. Yeah, I don't think the market's going to be teaming with interested parties. Not at that contract. Although we know that there are some coaches that think that they can do special things and if a player
Starting point is 00:17:27 is drafted as high as Zach Wilson, they might give up a 6th or 7th round pick for him. Oh man. Whoops. But then he might have to play for you and that's really where the rubber meets the road. Alright. Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and hit the 10 things to remember yeah this just in Zach Wilson still hasn't found a new home I thought you were gonna
Starting point is 00:17:55 Zach Wilson allowed to seek a trade oh yeah yeah well that's true I mean he's uh breaking news you know honestly if I was you know Douglas, I would seek to trade myself. Yeah. I really wouldn't leave it up to Zach. I would go get it done. All right, let's get going. Can you put him on eBay? Don't forget to remember these things.
Starting point is 00:18:25 All right. Well, this should be fun. I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys have in store. I have not previewed any of your different things to remember. I hope we're not remembering the same things then. That's a fair point. Yeah, there's a possibility that we are. And if we are, Mike, just do the whole Jets Zach Wilson trade thing. You got it. Just say it like it's brand new.
Starting point is 00:18:48 All right. Looks like we're going to kick it off here at number 10. Quarterback loyalty gets you zero fantasy points. And
Starting point is 00:19:03 that was really, really true this year. It's something to remember moving forward. Because last year we saw a resurgence in a willingness to draft some quarterbacks early, right? We had just come off the Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes year, and it kind of reminded me of like, you know, Aaron Rodgers had like a ton of seasons at number one. And so he felt like a completely sure thing where you would draft him for a number of years in fantasy. So there was some willingness last year, but I'm
Starting point is 00:19:37 going to tell you right here, right now, if you draft a quarterback early or even in the middle of the draft, it is very natural to feel like you are committed to that player. You're drafting a onesie position. So you only start one quarterback if you're non-super flex. And a lot of the times, you know, we spend months preparing for our drafts and we think we have conviction about a certain player and we take them. And if you take them at quarterback, you're naturally taking a big name, right? These are the headline makers in the NFL. They're the ones that make or break games. And so even if you're taking a Justin Herbert
Starting point is 00:20:13 and he's the sixth quarterback off the board, that's a big name. You feel committed to those players. This year, Patrick Mahomes was the number one quarterback off the board. He was the quarterback 19 from week eight on. Now, Josh Allen was great. Jalen Hurts pretty good, although it slowed down at the end. Lamar Jackson was the quarterback 17 for a six-game stretch. Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert both got hurt.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Justin Fields missed time. Trevor Lawrence was not good. Deshaun Watson missed time. And was not good. And was not good. Deshaun Watson missed time. And was not good. And was not good. If you show loyalty to players at the quarterback position for too long, you cost yourself. People won championships this year with Dak Prescott who really didn't start the year well at all.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Was a 10th quarterback off the board in the late 8th round. And there were a lot of people hesitant to move on from players that they drafted. I mean, Russell Wilson was somebody that was a relatively interesting pick for people to make last year. And if you had been loyal to Russell Wilson last year when you saw things going downhill in Denver, he was that cautionary tale then. This year you had a number of those guys. Trevor Lawrence, I think, would fit that mold a lot he ended the year so strong and people were probably starting Trevor Lawrence too long yeah I think the best example from this last year of remember this for next year
Starting point is 00:21:36 that things don't stay the same at the quarterback position is the Dak Prescott and Tua conversation because the first five weeks of the season, once you're five weeks in and you're going into week six, you feel like you understand everything. You feel like, oh, I got it. I know who's what's what. And Tua was like locked in. Every week you've got to start him.
Starting point is 00:21:56 He was the quarterback five. Dak, worthless. He was the quarterback 21. It's like, you know, we know. We know how this season's going to end. Tua as a superstar and Dak sucks and then if you played that out and you just stayed put and you had the loyalty the brand loyalty to the quarterbacks that started hot or that you drafted high it did not work out
Starting point is 00:22:17 outside of Josh Allen right and and even Mahomes right it wasn't just these like later picks like Tua and Dak like Mahomes was the hardest on people. Yeah. Because you felt completely stuck. I know that a lot of people that had Mahomes also had C.J. Stroud, right? They picked him up off of the waiver wire, and then it was like, well, I'm never going to start him over Patrick Mahomes. Loyalty to the quarterback position year after year,
Starting point is 00:22:42 unless you hit on the one or two guaranteed MVPs of that year, which do fluctuate, right? It was Lamar, but how many years have we had undue loyalty to Lamar that actually cost you? I mean, the first two years after his MVP campaign, people started him no matter what, and they literally lost games because of it. So have a willingness, I would say.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's not a necessity that you pivot because of one bad game. I'm not saying that. I'm saying have a willingness and have a loose grip on the quarterback you draft. Be willing to play the field. And when you see these offenses change and become better, believe maybe a little bit that you can play those guys. Yeah, hit the number. Number nine. I'm going to move one of mine around because it just it kind of piggybacks on what andy was talking about and i'm saying for this one don't get cocky your team always always has
Starting point is 00:23:36 to get better and in what i'm saying in there is sometimes there are moves that you need to make that are not your typical move where we don't – resource management of fantasy football. I don't like to roster two quarterbacks. I don't like to roster two tight ends. You're saying don't get cocky with the team that you have. Even if you're having success. Because there could be players out there available for you
Starting point is 00:24:06 that you feel like, my team is good. I don't need that player. And again, to piggyback here is I had the inverse of what the successful quarterback move was. I had Tua. I traded for Tua when things were looking good. And I talked on this show about my belief that Dak Prescott was about to go on a huge run because the schedule looked so fantastic for him. Dak was sitting on my waiver wire and I believed to my core of all my analysis that, no, Dak is going to go on a run,
Starting point is 00:24:46 but I don't need him because I have Tua. I don't need to go pick up Dak, and that was idiotic. I should have made, if nothing else, to block my opponents from getting a quarterback who I think is about to be fantastic. Thank you for not remembering that. I had one of those, Mike. I had a guy that was on fire. He was catching fire four weeks in a row. Looked like the real deal. His name was Josh Downs. And you made me a very easy trade offer to get Michael Pittman for very cheap. But your team was good you didn't need to do it I did not
Starting point is 00:25:25 need to do it I was solid and had I done it I think uh your season looks a lot different a lot different like sometimes that is I should have just picked up the second quarterback it's not a move I normally make but I need to be prepared leaving Leaving more and more, I'm getting comfortable with the idea of leaving my draft with two tight ends. Just for week one, have a guy where that I believe in this player and then maybe a player where – Let's see what happens. Let's see what happens.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Let's talk about the beginning of the season. We did a – and this is not supposed to be a full toot-toot thing, but we always do an undrafted gems, like guys to look out for. They might be on your waiver wire after the draft is already over. And I'm like, dude, Jake Ferguson and Sam Laporta, both of their schedules to open are basically the number one and number two tight end schedule with the data we have. And both of those players went on to be really important and got off to pretty good starts.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And your team is not as good as you think it is. It takes one tiny thing to go wrong. And if you're not prepared and on already making moves to get things... Can I... Yeah, please. I was just going to give you another example, which is like a perfect example would be somebody who started the year with Kenneth Walker and Travis Etienne as their two running backs.
Starting point is 00:26:51 It would be easy to say, I got it figured out at the running back position and not add or not build some depth behind them, and then boom. And that's my kind of final point here is talking about your fab or your waiver priority. You too often, you as I'm talking about myself as well, I'll look at my roster. Well, I really need, I got to figure out this wide receiver problem I have. I'm so good at running back, I'm not even worried.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But the top two pickups of the week, say, are running backs. And then I don't go hard after them because I think I'm good at that position. And someone else gets Kyron Williams in week one, you know, just as the easiest example because you think you're good. I don't need to go after Kyron. And that was an incredibly bad mistake because it just takes one injury to one of your two starting running backs and you're not it don't get caught up and just don't don't get overwhelmed and fall in love with
Starting point is 00:27:52 the smell of your own farts looking at your roster always be trying to improve it yeah it is uh it is one of the great illusions of fantasy football that what you're staring at, that perfect, beautiful specimen of a roster in week four, that's 4-0, the greatest illusion is that you are going to get to see what that team will do in the playoffs. Yes. Because it doesn't happen. It almost never happens. I cannot remember a team.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I mean, my dynasty team last year, we were talking about how lucky I was getting with injuries week 10, 12, 13, and the shoe finally dropped, right? So, yeah, it is a good thing to remember that, look, when the roster looks nice, take a picture, but it's not going to last very long. Yes. Prepare yourself.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Number eight. This one's called – Smell your own farts. Good ain't bad. Oh, okay. Sorry. That's right. Good ain't bad. Remember one's called. Smell your own farts. Good ain't bad. Oh, okay. Sorry. That's right. Good ain't bad.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Remember that. Yeah. Young stud players who have proven themselves on the NFL field. They came out and they're like, wow, they're really good. They're sensational. They are not going to go away just because the team brings in depth and more talent and that's a lesson I needed to learn from this last year specifically to two players you just mentioned Andy Travis Etienne and Kenneth Walker both of these teams went out and got a day two running back high draft capital
Starting point is 00:29:17 for a running back Tank Bigsby comes into Jacksonville and it was like both Travis Etienne and Kenneth Walker prior to the NFL draft were guys we were really really really high on um you know we did our early rankings shows and Kenneth Walker he's just a stud but then on in the second round they go and draft Zach Charbonnet and you're like he's ruined Kenneth Walker's ruined well i got um unreasonably mad yeah oh yeah that was the maddest you'd been all year i know exactly where i was like you remember the moment i remember the moment i was sitting in my office and the news came through and i was a level of mad for a pretend game that i should not have reached.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, it's one of those things where I thought for sure that with that kind of draft capital coming in, that these running backs would not usurp the talent, but just destroy it. Just destroy the fantasy value. And obviously, you know, at the end of the year, Kenneth Walker got injured and Travis Etienne slowed down a bit, but that wasn't because of this backup that came in. They were both workhorses. They were both workhorses because they proved themselves already. We saw it. The NFL team saw it.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Look, if you dominate on the field, then you're good. So I think about this year. Well, who could that happen to? Kyron Williams dominated this last year. If they go out and spend a day two pick on a running back, I'm still going to be in on Kyron Williams. The team needs depth. Every team needs depth.
Starting point is 00:30:56 We just talked about don't rest on your laurels. Build. Oh, you're good at running back? No, you're not. You're never good at running back. Go add someone. And that's true for NFL teams as well. So Nico Collins, Tank Dell, there's been so many rumors of
Starting point is 00:31:11 the Texans going out and getting a wide receiver in the draft or going after Mike Evans if he becomes available or whatever the case is. It's like... Alvin Kamara last offseason seemed like he was set up for the worst scenario you're gonna miss time we like kendra miller you had jamal williams and it's alvin david montgomery you know they they it's been a huge draft capital david montgomery was still very good if you're a very good player you're a very good player and when and i want to be less afraid this season about, oh, so-and-so added this player, so now my guy is ruined.
Starting point is 00:31:48 No, if the guy's good, he's going to get his. The team is just better. Who was ahead of Keyshawn Vaughn in Tampa when that happened? Because I remember people being afraid of Keyshawn Vaughn in Tampa Bay. But I don't remember who the starter was. I don't know if it was – it was probably Fournette at the time. I think that checks out. But, I mean, that was, you know, draft season's very fun.
Starting point is 00:32:12 The NFL, it's the bright lights. It takes over the whole world. So I think it's very easy nowadays to lose perspective on the way a team is built and pay so much attention to six months' worth of rookie and best ball drafts to lose sight of the fact that these players not only perform well on the field, but they also establish relationships with those teams oftentimes. So, yeah, it's a big-time good reminder to have. Number seven. All right, let reminder to have. Number seven.
Starting point is 00:32:49 All right, let's look at number seven here. I've titled it Lose a Trade, Win a Title. I'm excited for this one. Look, you have a bit of a reputation around these parts as being maybe an aggressive, persistent trader. Would you agree? That's a nice way to put it. Yeah. I mean, and one of the things that I think holds a lot of fantasy players up
Starting point is 00:33:15 is they are unwilling to lose a trade perceptively. Yes. And I think that it's a pride thing. You're trying to do the work, right? You're trying to make sure that you're on the perceived winning side. Everybody wants to win the trade, right? But what do we define winning the trade as? And for me this year,
Starting point is 00:33:38 what I think is important is that you want to make sure that you're getting the difference-making player on the roster. We've talked about that before in two-for-one, three-for-one trades. But early in the season for me, what I recognized was that there were two players in my mind that were league winners definitively in fantasy football this year. And they were Amon Ross, St. Brown, and CeeDee Lamb. And I know that a lot of players that we have in our league, opponents, teams in our league, when you get into trade discussions, sometimes it's like they have to have the last word, right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 They have to have the last tweak to the deal. They have to make sure that they have one little tweak or one little addition, and it can disrupt the ability to get a trade done. And so the thing I want people to remember as they go into next year, if you have that conviction, the conviction that Mike had about Dak Prescott, the conviction that many of us have about certain players as you get halfway through the year, if you believe somebody is going to be a difference maker slash league winner, what I'm saying is be willing to go out and lose a trade
Starting point is 00:34:39 in the public's perception, right, in your league's perception, to get the trade done. You're saying Vontae Mack no matter what. Yes. I'm saying you go Kostner. If you have to go Kostner. I don't care if I'm
Starting point is 00:34:58 perceived as a winner. I wouldn't trade after number one to do it. Just no matter what. Don't get bogged down in the tiny minutia details don't get bogged down in the little asks and the pesky additions to the trade if you want to get these players that are very hard to get for me it was waiting for a couple teams to kind of get on the fringe of contention and then throw the kitchen sink at them to guarantee that I can get one of these players onto my roster. We've talked about the philosophy. Obviously, if you do a two for one, three for one trade, you get to go right to the waiver wire and pick up a couple extra
Starting point is 00:35:37 names if you've traded three for one. I think sometimes people get worried that they're going to be criticized for the trade that they make. But if you have the conviction, like I did, that CeeDee Lamb was a must-add if I wanted any chance at a championship, be willing to lose the trade in the public perception if you want to win a title. It can make the difference. Don't get bogged down. It's not like every player, at the moment a trade is is being made is going to play the exact same way the rest of the season i think sometimes people just get stuck and that's why deals don't get done
Starting point is 00:36:10 yeah that's fair sometimes it's because we're just cowards yeah and i think that that is um it's like the fear of of the loss is more powerful than the potential of the victory but we're not playing to win second or third, and I think it's really important to be willing to throw something else in to get the player you need. And I would even tack on a thing at the end. Be willing to perceptually lose the trade and just be willing to be, at the end of the day, swing.
Starting point is 00:36:43 You may be wrong. It worked for you this time. Yeah like you may be wrong i mean it works for you this time yeah you could be that's the thing is but well i've done those trades and they get hurt the next week i mean that that kind of stuff can happen the point of you're playing to win you're playing for first place you're not playing for second you're not playing for third so you have to be willing to take some gigantic swing because if you strike out, whatever, man. It's not the difference between – but if you hit, you're talking about a forever championship.
Starting point is 00:37:13 It's very hard to win a title. Very hard. It's very, very difficult. Number six. All right. If the risk is – this is not a catchy title, but it's right to the point. If the risk is already built into the ADP, don't be afraid. And we have too many players every single year that we're all nervous
Starting point is 00:37:34 about a new situation that has happened to that player. But it's – fantasy football is the game of economics. And things that happen, we get afraid to draft players, their ADP goes down, and now the risk of everyone being correct, it's already baked in there. It's already in there. Some examples. Stephon Diggs with Minnesota was an emerging player
Starting point is 00:38:02 where his final three years with the team, what finished as wide receiver 20 in 14 games, wide receiver 11 in 15, 21 in 15 games. He gets traded to the Buffalo Bills, which I still think at the time, with the information we had, Josh Allen did not look like a franchise quarterback. He was coming off of, I believe, two straight years of being the most inaccurate quarterback in the league. And so we all got nervous about Stephon Diggs, who Stephon Diggs looked like a rising superstar
Starting point is 00:38:35 who just got banished to a land of mediocrity. And at that time then, he was going in the sixth round as the wide receiver 27, and he has a massive breakout campaign. Josh Allen has the huge, massive breakout campaign. So those that had the courage, which my point being, it's not really courage. We were all scared to draft him, and he went in the sixth round.
Starting point is 00:39:01 He's drafted as the wide receiver 27. It's like a real Jameson Williams type of risk. That's what I was talking about earlier. It's like it's baked in if he's in the ninth. And that's why I'm in. I'm like, I'll draft Jameson Williams in the ninth. If I'm wrong, I don't really lose anything. Jamar Chase as a rookie in 2021.
Starting point is 00:39:17 It's laughable at this point. The risk was baked in. He was being drafted in the seventh as the wide receiver 30. And that seems so ridiculous that that couldn't have been possible. That we were all so dumb we let him go into the seventh as the wide receiver, 30. That seems so ridiculous. That couldn't have been possible that we were all so dumb we let him go into the seventh? He had a lot of drops in preseason. He did, and he couldn't catch the ball, and yet he – Just like Jameson Williams. He was 81 for nearly 1,500 yards and 13 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Geno Smith takes over as the quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks. Russell Wilson's out. There's panic in the streets. DK Metcalf, who was just the wide receiver 12, was being drafted in the back of the fourth. Tyler Lockett, who was the wide receiver 13 previously, plummets to the wide receiver 40 because it's impossible. These guys can't – there's no way to do it with Geno Smith.
Starting point is 00:40:03 They're both fantastic. Mike Evans this past year. The risk is if it's baked into the ADP, you have very little to lose and you have so much to gain. It's a lot like the way the stock market moves when you're talking about the risk or the situation being baked in because in those situations exactly people had played the season out already in their minds yeah and then come up with the worst possible outcome for all of those players and then that's exactly where you're drafting them
Starting point is 00:40:38 that's you know it looks nice now but that's why mike ev Mike Evans was the strongest I've ever been convicted about a my guy ever, which I told you guys that in the studio. You said that on the show. It was because he was so undervalued and everyone had anticipated a guarantee that this is how the season will play out with Baker Mayfield. There was just not a lot of risk to me in turning to a player like that. And those examples you brought up are great ones. And identifying those in draft season, more of a challenge, trying to find those players that –
Starting point is 00:41:19 Because they're scary. Yeah, they should be scary. And it feels, when you're there and you're at their adp you're like am i gonna be the guy to to draft this player that's fallen so far from where they were like doesn't that mean they're old busted and i've got to be wiser but but you're right like if the risk of them failing means they finish where you're drafting them. Great. There's only upside.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, absolutely. So we'll take another quick break and come back. Jason, I hope you're ready. Number five. Number five. Draft enigmatic backs. Say that again. Draft enigmatic backs.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Is that one word? That's one word. It is now. Enigmatic backs. Enigmatic backs. You want to draft enigmatic backs? And what I mean by that. Trademark.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah. Go to that domain. Enigmatic backs. Dot biz. Enigmatic backfields are scary. The ones where you just don't know who's the guy. I don't know the situation there. Yeah, so I don't want to go in.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I'll let someone else figure it out. Exactly. Someone else will figure out this. We're not even sure who the running back is, so I don't want to take the shot and then just burn the pick. But the thing is, is most of those backfields don't cost you a heavy pick. And there are always emerging assets from that type of backfield where you're not sure who it is. If you look at this last year, you had the Miami Dolphins. You had a new undersized rookie in Devon A. Chan coming in.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And you had a super old veteran in Raheem Mostert. It's a good offense, but I don't know who the guy is. I'm just going to let someone else draft him. That's why they were drafted as the running back 42 and the running back 45. Turns out they were okay because they finished as the running back 24 and the running back 2. Even if Raheem Mostert had not finished as the running back 2, hindsight is so easy.
Starting point is 00:43:34 But looking back, we all had kind of projected Miami would be a high-powered offense. And a running back is going to score. It will not be the running back 40-something. Yeah, but you didn't know who it's going to be, so how would you draft him? Just take your shot. And maybe you're wrong. Like this next backfield, I was wrong on this backfield.
Starting point is 00:43:57 But I don't have any problem admitting that because I saw the shot for one of these enigmatic backfields. The Rams, Cam Akers, and Kyron Williams. You had Dan Graziano on August 4th write this quote, they look at Cam Akers and Kyron Williams as their top two backs, likely in that order. The Rams believe both can pass protect, but they like Williams a little more as a pass protector than they do Akers. So while Akers is likely the nominal starter, Williams could carve out a role and be the guy they lean on in the run game if something were to happen to Akers. So it was like one of those... Something happens.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Something happened. I liked Akers. He was the running back 21. That didn't work out. But Kyron, if you took him, which some people drafted him very late or most people picked him up off of waivers, obviously we know what happened there. He was a sensational superstar. You've got these situations, and it's not always like the Kyron Williams and Raheem Mostert number one back coming out, but the commanders last year, is it going to be Gibson? Is it going to be Brian Robinson? You know, they were drafted.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Brian Robinson was drafted as the running back 36 because of that. It's like, you know, it's a muddy backfield. And you pretty much, because of the value of the workhorse, the Christian McCaffreys and the Saquon Barclays, you're only looking for like that. And I think that's sometimes a mistake because there's only a few of them. But there's a lot of running backs you need, so it's okay to take part of a committee where you're not sure
Starting point is 00:45:28 who's going to be the lead guy because it's probably a value in the draft and they will rise out of that. Brian Robertson finished as a top 24 running back. Well, I think especially in the cases of Miami and Los Angeles, the extra layer there is that you have teams that you had tremendous confidence in their running game. You didn't know which running back it would be, but you knew that the Rams could run the football. You didn't know which running back it would be in Miami, but you knew that they were going to have an offense that could run the football.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And so I think if you wanted to add an extra qualifier there, you could say like enigmatic backfields on teams that have a history of being successful or coaches that would be successful there. All all right we'll move on number four is this it is my turn right it is um if it's not it is now uh well look i'll be quick uh i've titled this one the little things kill it's my favorite bush song oh that is from that is from a bush though. Oh, yeah. That is your favorite?
Starting point is 00:46:27 It's just little things. All right. And look, this is the 10 things to remember. This is something that I literally did halfway through this season. And the reason I'm bringing it up in part is we are going into season 10 next year at the Fantasy Footballers. And, you know, I think that there's probably a few people that are a little bit like me in our league of record. Ugly. Ugly.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Smelly. Smelly. What else you got, guys? Bad clothes. Too tall. Bad clothes? Very much too tall. Smelly.
Starting point is 00:47:02 No, you already said that one. But really smelly. You started off real hot. Look, I had a couple of championships early in the League of Record, and if you were listening to the show for a long time, maybe you started to take your league over like I thought I was. And about halfway through this year, look, I've been in the midst, I was in the midst of a pretty decent drought of winning championships
Starting point is 00:47:25 in League of Record I had had so much success me and Mike played each other in championship games three straight years a long time ago things just felt easy for a while and then they didn't you want to know why because because we started giving them our information well yeah we started a podcast and told them all of our information but the the truth is that many of you, maybe you had success early on listening, but the competition does get better in your leagues. And I wasn't – honestly, I wasn't willing to accept that. I believe that if I just kept going on the exact same way, it would just all work out like it always had.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I had grown a little bit complacent, and I had to have a meeting about four or five games this year with myself and it was literally did you schedule it i did schedule it it's in my google calendar was there a mirror i know zoom we did oh yeah incredible so there was zoom on in a mirror right yeah um so look i had the one-on-one meeting with myself and I said, like, I can't keep doing the same thing I've always been doing. I have to pay attention to the little things if I want to get back over the hump. For me, that meant a little extra free agent prep every week, which look on this show, we try to help you with a little bit more persistence on the trade offers
Starting point is 00:48:42 or finding those players I think can be league winners. Sometimes it's not just about trading a bunch. Sometimes it's about doing the work to figure out who you need to trade for. Not activity that doesn't lead anywhere doesn't help you. Sometimes it's paying a little bit more attention to some of the dirty work that's not very fun, like playoff schedules for players and future schedules for players. Some stuff is more fun and fantasy than others, but it all helps. Those little things help lead to victories and they add up over time.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And so I think a lot of us here, maybe we've had success in the past. Maybe you're like, man, I won a title, but it's been four, five, six years. What am I doing wrong? For me, it was the little things. It was a willingness to reevaluate a few small areas, and it led to success this year.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It's obviously very difficult to win in fantasy, so I think those things do add up. The little things kill. Went back to the fundamentals. Yeah, really. Doing his push-ups, grinding. That's right. It was the meeting, though.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It was the one-on-one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, things to remember. Schedule something. Self-meeting. Self was the meeting, though. It was the one-on-one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, things to remember. Schedule something. Self-meetings. Self-meetings, yeah. Number three. Let's talk a little Dynasty fantasy football here.
Starting point is 00:49:53 We're going to call this one Know the Thresholds. Because in Dynasty, one of the harder things to make a decision on is young wide receivers who aren't immediately superstars. When do I know? When do I know that I drafted a lemon and I need to move on? When do I know I got to give somebody some patience here? Like Jamison Williams, do we need to give him patience to grow into the player that the Lions hoped for when they drafted him?
Starting point is 00:50:24 And so we talk about targets a lot on this show as it's an earned statistic, because if a player is getting open, is building that trust with their quarterback, they're going to get a target. A route gives context to just the opportunity that the team is giving them. But players can be out there, MVS style, running routes on every single play. Cardio kings. Getting like three targets a game. And you now see where MVS is.
Starting point is 00:50:55 He is looking for a new job because they're saying, sir, you have not earned enough targets. We need to look elsewhere. And so we looked back over the last decade. These are wide receivers drafted in the first three rounds because still draft capital is the king of signal to, will a player actually be good or not? So here are the metrics.
Starting point is 00:51:15 This is a little heavy in statistics, but bear with me. Through two years, on average, a first-round wide receiver averages about a 20% target per route run and a 1.68 yards per route run. Second-round wide receivers, their yards per route run at about 1.55 on average, and the third-round wide receivers at 1.4. Now these are simply benchmarks to help guide your decisions. It is not saying if a player is under it, they are 100% toast,
Starting point is 00:51:46 but it's you may want to think about this because, honestly, through the last decade, the only player who has really resurrected himself from the grave was Devontae Adams. That dude sucked. Devontae Adams through two years. Remember how hard I was on him? Oh, we were all. And I was like, he never had a 1,000-yard season because he was at 997.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah. I mean, it wasn't even just that. It was his first two years. It looked terrible for him. I believe it was year two that Jordy tore his ACL, like right at the beginning of the year. And it was, thank goodness they have Devontae Adams. It's your time.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And he did not come through. So it was, no, this is never going to work out and now Devontae Adams over the last however long has been one of the best wide receivers in in the league so we're going to take a look back of of what we've seen now this is two years ago because you're collecting the data at the top of the class Drake London Olave Olave, Garrett Wilson. They're at the benchmarks. We're not worried about it. Both Christian Watson and George Pickens are sitting above the threshold. They're volatile, definitely.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I don't know if we're going to see them turn into studs, but we're okay. Watson and Pickens. Yes, on Christian Watson. Here's now where it gets a little sketchier. We're calling this one Keep the Light On because there could be some hope. So maybe if they're on your roster, you're just in a hold position. Jamison Williams, he is at 1.42 yards per route run, which is under the threshold we want.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Again, the threshold is just kind of a level that you're hoping they're above trailing burks he's at 1.28 he's a sketcher and wandale robinson he's there with jameson williams at 1.42 honestly just putting jameson williams with those other two guys really it does not give me a lot of confidence for jameson williams highlights where because i don't believe in those other two at all. Keep a dim light on. You know what I mean? He's at the top of that group, right? No, not really. He's tied
Starting point is 00:53:52 with Wandale, but Wandale was also not a first-round wide receiver, so he's overperforming compared to Jameson Williams. Jahan Dotson is on the cliff. Yeah, he's the next tier. That looks scary.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And then the guys where you, I think you can pretty accurately just move on. Unfortunately, John Meche, Houston Texans, Tyquan Thornton, Alec Pierce, Sky Moore and the Sky People. That's us. Why are we putting Valus Jones in here? That's just mean to him. Jalen Tolbert, David Bell Bell who once upon a time was hoped to be the next guy
Starting point is 00:54:29 for the Cleveland Browns sitting in our dynasty waiver wire if anyone's interested but we do have a huge article coming out here highlighting all the thresholds and things but it's just it's a metric it's in the dynasty pass yeah thank you it's a metric for you to be aware Dynasty Pass? It's in the Dynasty Pass, yeah, thank you. It's a metric for you to be aware of
Starting point is 00:54:46 because what's nice about Dynasty wide receivers, when you draft them, even when they stink in their first year, more often than not, they at least hold their value. Like, Sky Moore was, it was atrocious that first year.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And there was so many glaring red signs. But now that MVS is gone. So many glaring red signs saying it's not going to work for Sky Moore. I know the draft capital was there. I know the team is there. It doesn't look like it's going to work. But the hope was still there. There were still things of you could trade Sky Moore over that first offseason.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I'm not sure you're going to be able to trade Sky Moore this far into the process. So be aware how a wide receiver, where they were drafted compared to how they're performing through their first two years to help you make a real educated decision about, do I wait this out or do I try and move on? And I'm sure, like you said in that article, to get into all the details. I think the big headline that I took away from that, from practical advice, was that if you pay attention to those thresholds, you know whether or not your belief in a player is justified by the metrics or is going to be an uphill battle.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Like, I think that's what fundamentally I would be saying. Like, if this player does break out and have success from this point forward, they will be doing something that is unexpected. And that is saying something for the odds are not in their favor. Yeah, historically speaking, it's so wild how you can look back in history and find these numbers. They're like, they still hold true.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah. The Skymore example is the example because we knew it. We talked about these metrics, about how he was on the field as a rookie quite a bit, and he was really, really bad in that, you know, targets per route run and yards per route run. And so it's like, you know, it never works out. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might,
Starting point is 00:56:43 but it might work for us.'s get that quote yes let's get that quote back in here again people always think it but that's the time to get out because because there were people still thinking it's gonna work there's a tobias funk in your in your league right now who you can find one of these metrics and trade a wide receiver to them. Number two. All right. Thanks, Brooksy. This is the Brooksy special. I call it the preseason pretenders. Don't get fooled.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Every year we get fooled. It's so hard not to. It's so hard because we're so excited for football, and we want to see things. And I went back. I racked my brain. We want to trust people, Jason. We want to trust people, and we want things to matter in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:57:34 We want things to go on. We watch these games. Follow the signs. We're looking for something that matters because, I mean, one, that's our job. Like when preseason rolls around, I'm watching these games whether I want to watch them or not. And I'm trying to look for something tangible. And I need to remember to stop.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I need to stop. We do so much research through the offseason. We have so much historical data. We go through so many training camp reports that are that are in depth and and and long-winded and watch coaching press conferences and and we develop as solid of opinions as we can based on the information we have this last year I was so out on Damian Pierce. We had like three shows where I had a tangent on how that fourth round running back, you know. Yeah, we argued about it. Yeah, it just doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And then a new regime came in and brought in a Devin Singletary, a veteran running back who's a quality back. Oh, man. I was so out on. Sounds like you're talking about Kyron now, though. What if Devin Singletary goes to the Rams? Yeah, well, I've got two things to remember. Yeah, go on. So, yeah, I mean, and then all of a sudden in a preseason game,
Starting point is 00:58:52 oh, baby, 89% of C.J. Stroud's snaps at preseason week two went to Damian Pierce. He's the dude. He's going to be the pass catcher. But he was not. And I got in andy thank you i had the 12th pick in uh that draft because i was the reigning champ and yeah i took damian pierce but i was good i was totally gonna take damian pierce i was so i was so angry when you took damian pierce because of because of just a preseason game. And let me illustrate how the preseason... Well, and the season before, but go on.
Starting point is 00:59:27 The preseason game is not always indicative of future success. The Steelers' offense was amazing in preseason. The Steelers' first-team offense had five touchdowns on five drives in preseason. They looked great. Jerome Bettis is talking about Kenny Pickett has the potential to be a superstar, but he was not a superstar. There are so many examples of this. The Javante Williams injury that we knew the timeline.
Starting point is 01:00:02 We knew it. We knew it couldn't work out. That one still hurts my feelings we knew it's just like medically impossible for him to be be a rock star but he got out in preseason he played and it was like if you now we do learn things from time to time for preseason um who was the orange Julius Thomas yeah Julius Thomas we we saw that breakout coming because of preseason utilization, the tight end that year. But what it wasn't is it wasn't a change of strongly formed and informed decisions that we had made over the entire offseason.
Starting point is 01:00:36 If you have a really well-informed opinion that you believe in based on a lot of evidence, don't let – I'm talking to myself here. Self-meeting. Well, I did. Get me on my zoom tank tank bigsby was another one yeah because it was like you know you guys uh you know he had an opportunity in the preseason looked pretty good i i really want to make plays into your earlier one that i do not over emphasize preseason that's that's the key because you do need to emphasize it. It's just a matter of like in fantasy football, I think our tendencies, because we want stuff to talk about,
Starting point is 01:01:11 is that you go from witnessing something to making a pronouncement about it rather than just factoring it in, right? Like you could say, look, I'm not really a believer in Damian Pierce. He's looked pretty good this preseason, but fundamentally this is still my concern. But it's easy. It's so easy to go from well, we were wrong. This coach loves him.
Starting point is 01:01:35 But yeah, I mean it is... I'm going to de-emphasize. Because my natural human nature will automatically emphasize everything I see. There's just no way. I'm going to go in and try to de-emphasize it this year. Just say in your head, just say, you sure about that?
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah. With whatever you see. You sure about that? Yeah. You sure about that this way? Okay, and yeah, there are many examples of situations like that. The preseason, you get vanilla offenses, right? And defenses. You get vanilla defenses. And you get vanilla defenses, and you get
Starting point is 01:02:08 different first teams, second teams playing each other. I think, in part, the preseason has become less and less of an indicator over time as well. We produce the total amount of games. We don't play starters very much. We want to see different things from different players, and you go out there and you're not executing
Starting point is 01:02:24 what a normal game plan. It used to be the third week of the preseason. You're seeing two teams really prepare for the season with their main personnel packages. Now you've got to do heavy research even to see like, wait, okay, is this player going against a first-team defense or is that cornerback their backup? You know, it's like. Yep. No, it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:02:44 It makes sense. All right, we've got one more because we always share one at the end here. Number one. Now, Jason, you titled this one. Yeah, well, I'm a big fan of the movie Remember the Titans. Yeah. And this is a show about remembering. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I want you to remember the turds. Remember the turds. Remember the turds. In your turds. Remember the turds. In your league. So what are we saying? We're saying that. I don't know what we're saying. Well, we don't.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah, I mean, we could have said it differently, I suppose. But this is the reminder that the things in your league that cause you to have a bad experience, which may include a handful, a couple, single, there's all sorts of turds. But if there's some managers in your league that didn't add to the experience, if there were rules in your league, league formation, settings, week 17 or 18 championship games, sorry, week 18 title games.
Starting point is 01:03:49 This is the time to kind of remember what went right, what went wrong, make the adjustments, get them in place. Maybe there's leagues that you were saying, man, I wish our league was like that league over there, or I wish that this one manager set their lineup ever. This is the time to make the adjustments to boot out those turds and to get things right for your league. Lace up them boots. Now, I usually go with the flush. Oh, we could have flushed the turds. So you guys, you're actually like drop kicking a poo?
Starting point is 01:04:26 I'm drop kicking it straight from the source. What? Never hits the ground. It's incredible. That's quite the image. Yeah. Yeah, it's a backwards kick. Oh, it's like a mule kick.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah, it's a mule kick. When I'm camping, you got to boot out them turds. What do you mean when you're camping? Well, I'm not doing it at home. I got a bidet. Wait, you do this for yourself? This is a joke. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I know. He's like, stop. You're the one who said camping. Well, I mean, where else are you going to kick turds? I mean. You doing good, Brooks? How are you doing over there? Oh, I'm doing great.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Did you learn anything from that last one? That was the most important one. That was? Definitely. Thank you, Brooks. Is there anything you needed to remember? I know I'm putting you on the spot, but is there anything from this past year that,
Starting point is 01:05:19 like, do you remember how old your dynasty team is? Yeah. I'm starting to remember that. Just in general, not playing afraid, which a lot of your guys's points summarized that that's my problem i was out of trades and i go to his offer and i don't offer them you know i i think that's i think that's a good self-acknowledgement because i i look at several people in our league and it's usually the people that are hard to trade with. And I just watched, I literally watched them hurt themselves.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Like, it's annoying. I'm annoyed that they don't accept this trade or can't trade with anybody. But, like, I often think, like. I feel like you're, like, pre-setting them up. No, I genuinely have had the thought before of, like, dude, you are such a coward that you don't help your team. With the trade with you? No, no, no. Oh, coward that you don't help your team. With the trade with you? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Oh, okay. With the whole league. Specifically. All these cowards out there not taking my deals. Take my trade, coward. That's a good trade method. That's often worked. What are you, a chicken?
Starting point is 01:06:20 What are you, a yellow? I get too attached to players, certain players. Do you know what that is? I have that problem too, Brooke. That's a really easy thing to do with these long off seasons where you fall in love with certain players. It's my beautiful fantasy baby. It feels better when you find them.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I made you. It feels better when you find them and then they have success and they're yours. Yeah. No question. So there you go. There's 10 things to remember for this past season. One more thing to remember. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Because you've got a day left to get in on the Ultimate Draft Kit giveaway. We are giving away a Listener League entry in a couple of days here. We'll be giving away someone. The first person playing in the 2024 Listener League will be known soon. You can join the league and then not be a coward and trade with Jason. Yeah, don't be a coward. Trade me all your good players. A brave man would give me that player.
Starting point is 01:07:19 But yeah, get the Ultimate Draft Kit at ultimatedraftkit.com. There's so much resources. It's a tool you're going to want this year anyways. So get it now because it's the cheapest price and you're automatically entered in the giveaway. I do want to let people know an update for you, which is our Dynasty podcast, which I think is, we're not even a year old, are we? Not yet. I believe we just recorded our 50th episode. 50th episode.
Starting point is 01:07:44 It's been very well received. And I want to let you know, it's now available on YouTube with video. Whoa. So we made the jump on episode 50. It seemed like 50. We're like, all right, we'll keep Kyle and Betts around. And you can watch Jason headbang for the, through the intro and you can check that out.
Starting point is 01:08:11 There is a separate YouTube channel for the dynasty podcast, the fantasy footballers dynasty podcast. So please check that out. If you are somebody that enjoys it on YouTube, that'll do it for today's episode. Thank you for joining us on the show next Tuesday. We will have free agent predictions. So that'll be your next episode, unless you had to join thefoot.com right now. Goodbye.
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