Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Trade Targets + Dynasty Mistakes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 5/12
Episode Date: May 12, 2026Fantasy Football show for May 12, 2026. Dynasty trades! Andy, Mike, and Jason each pick players to trade for and trade away in dynasty leagues. Plus, reactions to Breece Hall’s contract extension wi...th the Jets, and common mistakes Dynasty managers make. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Get the lowest price on the 2026 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Instant access to the Dynasty Pass with the UDK+ (00:00) Intro (2:30) Common dynasty mistakes (12:30) NFL News (22:00) Let’s Talk Trades (23:04) Harold Fannin Jr. (28:20) DJ Moore (32:49) Trevor Lawrence (39:30) George Pickens (46:05) Bhaysul Tuten (50:06) Davante Adams Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Oh, welcome in.
Tuesday, May 12th.
Welcome to Dynasty Week, the Fantasy Footballers podcast.
Mike the Fantasy Hitman, Jason Moore.
I'm Andy Holloway.
Hello.
Hey, how's it going?
What was that?
I was saying hello.
Okay.
It sounded like a grumpy neighbor hello.
I mean,
yeah.
I guess that's where you're at.
Welcome in.
It is Dynasty Week,
a special week of shows
bending towards the dynasty players out there.
Today's a fun one because we're going to be doing
trade for and tradeaway candidates.
And these, look,
it's specifically Dynasty Trade Four Dynasty tradeaway.
But, you know, that works for a redraway.
too, because these are players that you think
you make the move now, you get
the benefit now and
into the future. Yeah, I mean, it's the outlook of
NFL future. So
for redraft, that still matters.
This is whether or not
we think the value
is peaking,
has peaked, or is,
you know, there's more to come from this player.
Right? I mean, that's all we're
picking here. Is it sneaking?
Sneaking or peeking.
It's one of them.
Yep.
That's,
That's today's show.
We are going to do a little something fun for Dynasty Week.
We're going to give away a signed jersey this week, a signed James Cook jersey.
I don't know.
Rank check.
Where do you have James Cook?
Five.
James Cook at five.
I think I have him at six.
Hold on.
Six.
Yeah, I've got him at six as well.
So James Cook has been a dominator in fantasy.
We got a signed James Cook jersey we're going to give away.
Anybody that has the UDK Plus or the Ultimate Foot Clan member,
So basically access to the dynasty pass are automatically entered to win.
We'll give it away after this week.
You can learn more at Ultimate draft kit.com for that.
Quick question of the day to get us started.
Chase writes in from X.
I don't think it's Jamar Chase or Chase Brown.
What's the most common mistake you see dynasty managers make that consistently cost them value over time?
I will jump in.
and this one
I'm laughing at what has been
added to your note in our dock.
So,
in Dynasty,
especially in the off season
or the extended by week,
there's not a lot of action going on.
You wait if you get your rookie dress.
So people like to trade,
and you know what?
It's very fun.
The sending of the...
I like it.
Sending the offer.
an offer going through
each thing you do
you get a little dopamine
flows throughout the body it's fun
it feels good
and yet
overtrading
I had in the
can it be done?
Yes it can
and the leagues I am in
I have seen
the overtraders get themselves
all of a sudden they're like
whoa you made like four
awesome moves right there
but because they're overtraders
they can't stop
They can't walk away from the table.
They continue to trade.
And then they're back to their team just stinks.
It's an unfortunate balance of trading.
It's super fun.
But if you do it too much, you're, you will overdo it and you'll just end up with nothing.
You'll have nothing.
It takes a real old man to look in the mirror and say, maybe I'm doing a little too much trading here.
Because you can't, you cannot win every trade.
Now, wouldn't they have the argument that if you,
win 60% of the trades that you should trade a thousand times as opposed to maybe you know five times but
I will say that I mean we've been in a lot of leagues the people that trade like crazy that are all
like every trade that goes through is this person when you got one of them in the league historically
it does not work out great for that person I think in dynasty specifically it is more of a risk
because generally what gets trades across the finish line is draft capital.
And so if you are trading so frequently that you're just throwing in an extra piece here,
an extra piece there to get the trades across the finish line,
you find yourself depleted later on in future seasons.
I think that's a good one.
For me, the mistake I see people making in Dynasty Leagues is always playing for the future,
always worrying about the youth, the long-term outlook, never realizing I'm in a championship window,
I need to put myself over the top.
I need to have a veteran.
You've got to not just care so much that it's a dynasty league that you don't get to ever win a championship.
You have to know when to go in and do that.
That's not necessarily about what's costing you value over time.
But in the end, the only thing that matters is do you win a championship?
Right.
Like that's it.
How many championships have you won in your dynasty league?
That's the question that matters the most.
the last three.
Oh.
I wasn't asking you.
Oh, I'm sorry.
So then we have the same amount of championships in our league.
Got it.
Two of the last three and one Jemir gives away from champ, champ, champ.
That made me sad.
I'm so happy they didn't happen.
That made me sad.
Can I, I was thinking about this driving in.
It kind of ties into what you're saying here on the winning now versus winning later.
And I have a concept, a theory, a thought for dynasty leagues that I want to run by you and whether you think it's stupid or not.
I think running backs are more important to winning a championship
and wide receivers are more important to being competitive long term.
I think that's fair to say.
And I do think that ties into that question there,
where sometimes you're going to make what might be a antithetical dynasty decision
on a trade or a draft pick, a rookie pick,
because you need to play for today.
And so I think that's the way it goes in Dynasty.
I think the running backs shorter window, but big impact,
especially when you think about the fact that the majority of your league is going to be focused on the longevity of the wide receiver position.
So something to think about.
My mistake that I wanted to ring up was just blindly following the consensus in rookie drafts versus your own opinions.
Yes, don't follow our opinions over your own opinions, right?
This show is not about blindly following what we say.
it's we're supposed to give you our perspectives,
which we disagree with each other,
then you make your own decision.
I mean, you can go back to rookie draft after rookie draft after rookie draft.
Everyone drafts them in a certain order,
and then you can look back with regret.
I just pulled a random year because I just wanted to see what it was like.
2022.
This was a year where Breece Hall went number one.
Drake London went number two, then Ken Walker,
then Traylon Burks went number four.
You had Chris Olavé, Garrett Wilson, George Pickens,
the next three off the board. Skymore.
A couple picks ahead of James Cook
in this draft, right?
So, you know, you kind of hit
some of those. I'm sure we would, you know,
put a lavee up ahead of Trailing Berks
and everyone else ahead of Trailing Berks.
But I think it's okay.
Like one of the questions that's gotten
brought up a lot this year is like,
oh, when do I have permission to draft
Judarian Price?
That's the one I see them all.
Do I have permission to take Jedgerian Price
over Mackay Lemon at five? Permission?
Like, you got permission to take.
I think that's fine.
I genuinely do.
I think you can take the player you need to take that you have conviction about that you believe in.
And just you will have to absorb the arrows, the eyeballs from your league that just say, you're an idiot.
If you passed on Traylen Berks for James Cook, you would have been an idiot.
Yes.
Right?
At the time.
The dynasty world as a whole, there's a lot more room for stupidity.
as a perception.
But the reality is much different.
We have so many years of trades that you look at in the moment and you're like,
oh my gosh, how do you do that?
And it was better for the opposite person.
So I don't know what that means.
It kind of seems like there's a parallel there to the way that the good stock traders
treat the market versus the-
Well, they just buy like, you know, they're willing.
Not singular stocks.
Can you do that?
Sure.
Sure.
That's a good point.
I will trade James Cook for your Cincinnati wide receivers.
Yeah, that would be nice to be able to take an entire collection.
But no, the idea that you just have a little bit of discipline and strength in the midst of a negative environment.
Yeah, because you believe in something.
So plenty of other mistakes to make.
Don't worry about that.
It is really fun.
You brought up that draft from our league in 2022.
It's really fun to go back and look at rookie drafts.
If you're in your, I mean, it's just.
Najee Harris number one, Jemar Chase number two.
Yeah.
That's the consensus, by the way, from 2021.
Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm just pulling up drafts and it's just, it's literally a good time.
Go to your league right now.
Go to your draft history and look at a couple of rookie drafts from, because once you're three years past, you know the results.
Yes.
And you get to see all the stupid things we do.
2024.
Redraft 2024.
You got Marv number one, Neighbors 2, Adunze 3, Brock Bowers 4.
Jane Daniels 8.
Yep.
So yeah, there's...
It happens.
Which, by the way, you can do this every year with the NFL draft, and it's insanely wrong.
So just be willing to kind of go against the grain if you have conviction about a player.
For whatever reason, I really like Judarian Price this year, and I'm totally fine taking him ahead of Mackay Lemon, based on team need, things like that.
Would you do 102, though?
So you're saying above Tate and Tyson?
would I?
Yeah.
Probably not.
Okay.
I actually, I would probably take Tate no matter what ahead of him.
But if I was a team that really needed a running back, I'm fine.
If you want to take, you know, if you want to take him over Tyson, I think I'm okay with that.
So, again, the feeling that you get coming from Jason right there is the feeling you'll get in your league.
The little, I can't say anything.
It doesn't help that the.
the,
Jason and I,
like our scouting of the prospect
Judarian Price was not like,
I loved that guy.
Like if we,
if I saw Jonathan Taylor on the film
and he goes at 32 to the Seahawks,
you're like, yeah,
no problem.
Take him over the superstar wide receivers
because that guy is going to be a superstar.
It's just,
it's very with the production profile
and just what it,
it's very difficult to see,
price for me
like really going on that path
to super stardom.
And you'll see in a year from now.
And you'll be like, oh, remember that conversation?
I was so wrong.
And I didn't win a championship this year
in any of my leagues.
I'm Mike.
In a year from now, that's what you'll say.
Oh.
That's what, that was my impression of you in a year.
That's, uh, I hope, Jason.
Yeah, I've got to get him out of here.
I'm praying.
Al has informed me we have a drop for Dynasty.
Yeah, we do.
I never hit it.
A rule.
Welcome to Dynasty Week.
Man, I...
Yeah, I imagine that while we talked through those mistakes that Dynasty players made,
nobody felt welcome to that point to Dynasty Week.
And I apologize for that.
That drop was necessary to welcome you in.
Now you feel welcome.
Yeah.
We did get a little bit of news.
The Jet signed Breast Hall to a three-year 45.
Speaking of Dynasty, checking in with Jason.
Yeah.
Free Saul manager for Dino Senior.
Jay, how are you feeling?
I'm feeling super sucky.
This is the first time ever.
first time ever where my running back signs an extension and I'm disappointed.
Yeah.
You know, it's like for Dynasty, that is the value.
We talk about it all the time.
It's not even age at the running bag.
It's like the contracts.
So long as he's got three years.
And it's wonderful.
$45 million.
Highest paid running backs on average salary.
Seekwan.
CMC.
Brice.
I mean, I'm super happy for the man who said he cried when he signed it.
You know, he's gone through a lot with the ACL tear and here he is signing.
Because he knew he was trading.
Yeah.
Success for money.
Yeah, he said he was, they were happy tears.
But we know, Bruce.
We know.
You're like, oh, man.
Fears of acceptance?
It's the, hey, me, me and Garrett, we're going to be just making a rain, but we will
never win a Super Bowl.
I brought up the stinky teams.
They've done some stuff to the offensive line here that I'm encouraged about in New York
for Brise Hall.
he's managed to be productive for fantasy
in spite of his surroundings.
I mean, they have so many.
I know Jason believes Club Next to Future MVP.
They have so many
talented skill position players now
that if you
bring a quarterback in here,
they should be able to move the ball.
We got to get Dante Moore there
so all my Dante Moore cards are still
the same color. Okay.
The Charger, is that an Oregon, Dante Moore?
It's close enough.
Okay.
The Chargers are.
signing David Najoku to a one-year deal worth up to $8 million.
They also signed Charlie Kohler to a three-year deal in free agency.
Kohler is the blocker.
Yes, but it takes up a spot.
Nojoku, it's weird how to do this because the initial, my initial reaction is, well, there we go.
This dude's a stud.
Sorry, Gadsden and the Gadsden Truthers.
That was a nice month we had last year.
That was my initial thought.
And then.
And then you're just waiting more of.
Like, Fannin succeeded on the same field with Nogoku.
Well, and Fannin was better.
I agree.
Fanon was better.
Nijoku had to wait until May to get a one year deal.
He's at the tail end.
It's just, it, there's, if you're on team Gadsden, I wouldn't abandon all hope yet.
There's, there's a chance that Nogoku is about to be washed.
The Joku turns 30 any minute now.
I mean, he's, he's not washed yet.
I don't think he is washed.
Not like his physique, but his play.
He certainly impacts Gadsden on a redraft level.
Like I had Gadsden as one of my number one tight-in targets later in the draft.
I mean, he would have been a breakout for us guaranteed in the UDK without Nujoku getting signed.
But now it's like who is the higher targeted tight end on this team, Njoku or Gadsden in 2026.
I actually have Gadsden with more targets than Nizoku.
I just think it's a, it's a ceiling wrecker for Gadsden.
And they have other weapons there.
They're going to run the ball more successfully this year.
I was already going out on a limb that Gadsden would be able to, like,
the thing about Nizoku coming in is he is an, like,
he is a good titan with a ton of experience.
Gadsden is a young titan with not a lot of experience.
And I feel like the way this team, the little things are going to matter.
And I feel like Njoku is going to do those things on a weekend and week out basis.
I think that was part of why Naji got brought in last.
year. It was the exact same type of signing. Now, Naji went down with a major injury,
but I think that's what you would have seen through the year is a little bit more trust
on the veterans because they do the little things, even when we want to see the young guy flourish.
And that's my concern about Gadsden. And also the other part of that equation with the
chargers is for the wide receivers, they are clearly the charges are loading up here, and we're
going to see a lot of like the later end of Miami where it's a lot of tight ends on the field.
because they have great wide receivers.
Yeah, they're pretty good.
We'll call them pretty good, but very interesting players.
And more than likely, you're only going to see two of them on the field for more snaps than the average of the NFL.
So it's how do you, us figuring out who those two guys are going to be over the course of training camp.
You're talking about the wide outs or the tight ends on the field?
No, the wide outs.
And it's like, yeah, well, it's going to be huge and it's going to be lad.
probably but I don't know that I don't know that that's a definite answer well what's the other name
well Trey Harris yeah I mean that doesn't you're not taking a lad off the field for Trey Harris very often
but if you're talking two outside wide receivers maybe they come in and they like Harris
on the outside better and then and Brendan Thompson will be worked in as the their speedster
be quote whatever the guy who looks like Tiree Kill he's just 20 pounds lighter
lighter than Tyree Kill so it's not
And then the Keenan will show up.
Right.
Right after training camp.
Joanne Jennings, one-year deal with the Vikings,
worth up to $13 million.
Took them a while to sign.
8 million in base salary.
Added, you know, this is good for whoever plays quarterback.
It's great for JJ McCarthy.
In Minnesota.
There you go.
I don't really, I mean, it doesn't change my opinion of Jefferson.
It doesn't really change my opinion of Addison.
They've had KJ.
was born there before have, you know, make significant contributions when both those guys
are there. To me, this is their, you know, they brought Adam Thieling back for a small amount
of time. It's a good third receiver to add to this team. And considering that Hawkinson,
isn't Hawkinson anymore? Correct. Like, Hawkinson used to represent a ton of volume in the
offense. I think he does not anymore. So, you know, I don't know if Jennings, like, this signing
kind of means very little to me, as
dumb as that is. I think it's great for Minnesota.
It's good for the team. Yeah.
And speaking of
J.J. McCarthy, I guess we're reporting that Tom Pell is
Sarah, Mike's favorite guy.
KJ. or J.J. McCarthy
and Kyla Murray will compete for the starting
job this summer.
Holloway is reporting
Kyler will then win that job.
Yeah. Because the team wants to win games.
It is the most likely thing.
But
how hilarious
how hilarious would it be
I mean Mike is rooting for the hilarity of it
I am well because it's also better for Minnesota
if J.J. McCarthy truly wins the job
it is and they're like
something clicked he's
he's the guy we thought he was going to be
when we took him in the first round
and then you have your future as opposed to Kyler
where it's your team
Minnesota will be better with Kyler
don't probably make the playoffs but
can they win with
him, I don't know.
Which, if I told you they're changing quarterbacks after week five, what order is the best?
Oh.
For who's for fantasy?
The order would.
Sure.
For fantasy, starting McCarthy and then putting Murray in, I think is better for fantasy.
I would agree with that.
I also think that's better for the Vikings as a franchise.
Because if Kyler starts week one, that means that.
that McCarthy did not win the job.
Right.
And if he doesn't win the job, just out the gates,
you know, it's not going to go well.
It is a, it's a wild one.
Because like you said, it would be hilarious at McCarthy won,
but then he's got to go win games.
Yep.
Which he did not look like he knew how to do very much last year.
Now that Kyler is free of the Cardinals,
I do expect a Super Bowl.
Yeah, I mean, this is, I think you were out on the show
that we debated Kyler a lot
because we did a bunch of rank
check stuff and I have Kyler fairly low
like I think he's good for the team
but I don't think he's going to produce like old Kyler
at all. I think he's going to be more of
a manager that has some success
and
I just, for me I was trying to point out
to Jason how long we've watched a bad
Kyler. We've watched a pretty bad
player for quite a while.
I don't know what side, where he ended up in your rankings.
I think I have him pretty
close to his ADP, which is,
I would have to pull that up.
Now I'm talking to me what my hours are folded.
Why are you closing your rankings?
Why are you closing your?
You got tabs, man.
I got, you ever use tabs?
I got things to do over here, man.
What do you watch Netflix?
Keep your rankings up.
I got to catch up, man.
I got a check on them.
You guys are always like,
have you seen how far this show is?
I haven't started it yet.
Also, another hot tip is you say stuff while you're looking,
and you don't even tell people you're looking.
You just go like, yeah, I'll tell you what I like about that,
Kyler Murray.
By the way, you remember that one game where you threw that Hail Mary, Bo, Bo, Bo, Boom.
And then you got him at 15.
Jason has him at like 10.
I got him at like 20.
So, yeah, that's about right for Kyler.
10, 15, 20.
Yeah, no one knows really what's going to happen.
We're going to take a break and then we're going to talk some trades.
Let's talk trades.
One trade four candidate for dynasty managers, one tradeaway candidate for dynasty managers from each of us.
Right before we were.
recorded this show, we had spent some concerted time attempting to come together and find some
consensus, sleepers, breakouts, busts, and values for the UDK, as we do every year. We did get,
you know, get some names out there, guys that we agree on completely. But I think for maybe,
I think the first time in a while, like we had some pretty drastically different opinions.
Like, it wasn't like, hey, I'm high on this guy and I'm neutral. It was like, I'm high. I'm
high on him and I'm super low on him.
So it'll be interesting because I think some of the names that we bring up today, we have
differing opinions.
Who wants to go first on the trade four candidate?
I'll kick it off because we kind of mentioned him earlier this episode already.
The trade four candidate that I like, I think he is not valued in this moment where he should
be valued is Harold Fanon Jr.
tight end for the Cleveland Browns,
who was absolutely awesome last year.
Harold Fana Jr., he was this collegiate athlete
that he didn't play at the biggest program,
had a lot of production,
didn't blow you away on film,
but had so much work in the passing game,
broke so many tackles,
it just kind of,
it always worked for him.
And, you know,
I said last year,
I'm going to bet on it working
because I just really,
believed in him. Then he comes to the NFL. He's playing behind David Nogoku, and he is awesome. He's
way better than David Nogoku. He was statistically better than Tyler Warren, better than
Loveland. Like, his rookie season was awesome. He was the tight-in five last year with Shador
Sanders. And in this moment, I think that people are not very high on him because you just
had the Browns spend, you know, two top 40 picks on wide receivers.
So you're like, oh, no, now he's, now he's losing out. But, but the wide receivers aren't
really competing with Fanon, I don't believe for, you know, for the targets in the same area
of the field, not to the degree that David Najuku was. You know, losing Najuku and gaining
rookie wide receivers to me allows Fanon to lead this team in targets. He might not, but he
certainly has a path where he could. Um, obviously.
I expect Fanon to be very, very involved.
I expect him to lead this team in targets.
And where he's going in drafts, I mean, you think about when you have a young stud tight end,
they are so valuable in Dynasty.
You can't pry Brock Bowers from the cold dead hands of the manager who has them.
That's impossible.
Right now, Loveland and Warren.
Rigamortis.
That's why.
Yeah, that is why.
It has nothing to do with Fanon.
You know, Warren and Loveland, you just, there's no way you're getting these guys in a dynasty league.
But Fanon's available.
If you just look at like startup ADP, you're looking at like obviously, you know, Brock in the first and McBride in the second, Warren in the third.
Late fifth is like where Fanon is going right now.
And I think you can, I think you can get a hold of him.
I think people are willing to trade him away.
And he is so young.
This, I mean, he's so young that he had the most.
How young is he?
It hit me the same way.
My point was, I was throwing this stat out.
Mama, so.
To give you an example of how young he is,
he had the most receptions ever for a tight end before turning 22.
He is a baby boy.
He's going to be good for a long time.
Is the quarterback situation great?
No.
Did they just bring in two wide receivers?
Yes, but these are the reasons why you can acquire Fanon.
If Fanon is just that dude and they figure out a quarterback, maybe not this year, maybe next year.
But you're going to have six plus years of Fanon being very relevant for fantasy.
Yeah, I feel like maybe we, I don't think we hold the quarterback situation to so much scrutiny when it's the tight ends.
I feel like you look at Concepcion in Boston and you want to see them have a breakout year.
maybe that's not in the cards because you don't believe in Shadour.
But like last year, in a year where Fanon had success,
it was a lot of Dylan Gabriel, right?
And you had some Joe Flacco mixed in.
And then you had Shadour Sanders, the Pro Bowler.
And, you know, Jerry Judy was still out there soaking up targets
and he's still on this team.
So, and the joke who was there.
So, yeah, I think Fanon, I think the most compelling thing is just how much room there is
for him to grow and how much time you'll probably.
get in productivity for a dynasty roster.
Yeah, whenever you've got someone that young who is productive in college who comes to the NFL
and at that age is that productive in the NFL, he's good.
Just bet on the talent.
The longevity of the Browns and what the situation is around him, that's going to change,
but he is super talented.
Would you rather have Loveland and Warren?
I think I would rather have Loveland and Warren, yes.
But you can't really trade for those guys.
And I think that Fanon could be completely at the end of the year.
I think he's more, I'm with you, that you can acquire Fanon much easier.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I guess I was even thinking like if you.
I think at the end of the year it is not impossible.
Would you trade Warren?
Sure.
Like Warren.
To get Fanon plus.
And a first next year.
Right.
I would do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Mike, do you want to tell us who you're trading for?
Are we going, we're going all three trade four?
You tell me.
What's the rules?
Who's hosting this show?
I'm going to go with my trade-away.
Oh, are you?
Well, I don't want it to just be like the end of the show is just...
This guy stinks.
I like it.
All right.
My trade-away, he doesn't stink, but we're playing Dynasty Football or Dynasty
Football.
I'm going to DJ Moore, new wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills as my trade-away candidate.
He's 29.
He's entering year nine.
This is such a good call, Mike.
And he, look, here.
Since when is it worth trading away?
like a veteran star that went to Buffalo to acquire something better.
Exactly.
Shout out of Mari Cooper, you got me everything.
This is not the...
I'm DJ Moore.
I will be productive on this team.
He will give you fantasy points this year.
It's just about his...
What will he actually give you versus what someone in your league is going to believe about him?
He's on the Buffalo Bills.
You know, it's like guys go to the bills or the chiefs,
and we still automatically launched them to the moon for fantasy purposes,
even though, you know, we've been disappointed far more than we have hit on guys like Rishie Rice.
But so in 2024, Alan became the first top five fantasy quarterback
without a top 36 scoring wide receiver.
You feel like, well, DJ Moore can come in and do that.
Sure, he can be in the top 36.
but the point is Josh Allen gets things done
without having to hyper focus on a single target.
In 2025, DJ Moore set career lows
in a number of categories we're talking, receptions, receiving yards,
yards per route run down at 1.33,
and forced miss tackles.
DJ Moore, the elusive, very slippery,
makes things happen with the ball in his hands.
He forced four miss tackles.
The yards after contact, it has just, it was not there this past year.
So I'm on the side of, I don't think it automatically bounces back for DJ Moore.
I think that last year was more of an indication that we're coming to the end.
You know, wide receivers, as I said, the age, he's at that age too, where things can go south real, real fast.
And he's 29.
He's changing locations.
We've looked at fantasy players who have changed teams in year nine.
there is one hit
like guys it didn't work
Randall Cobb Marvin Jones
Alan Robinson Beckham
Cooper Cup
the one hit
Devante Adams
you don't want to know why
180 targets
I'm not expecting 180 targets
to come through here for DJ Moore
so if I can trade him away
and get and
start getting ready for the future
I would rather do that
you have to then you have him expiring on my team
I feel like if you have DJ Moore
you have to be trying to
trade him away. Imagine what happened before this bill's trade. You have a 29-year-old wide
receiver who looks like he's done, going to give you nothing. You couldn't get any value for him.
The trade to Buffalo is like, oh my gosh. Yeah, the window. I got, I, I hit the jackpot, not because
you get that version of DJ Moore, but because now you can, now you can actually sell him and
cash in, get some, get some youth there because I don't think this is a, I don't think he's going to be
bad on Buffalo, but he's not going to be pushing someone over the top to a championship right now.
I mean, the one guy that succeeded in that transfer was a true alpha number one that hadn't
ever left that, you know, being that for his franchise.
DJ Moore has made the migration from the focal point of offenses to an ancillary piece
of offenses in the last handful of years being used in the backfield.
I don't know why, like, why is he not used downfield that much?
He ends up making these big downfield plays, but it's not that much, not like it used to be in
Carolina. He's definitely gone to this place of like, I'm a piece of the offense. I'm not the
whole offense. But you can make the argument that because the names in Buffalo are so bad around him,
that you can be like, he's just the one. And he's not. They only added Skyler Bell in the fourth
round. So it's like he is, he should be the de facto number one wide receiver. But what does that,
does that even get you into the top 20? I don't think it will. I mean, the worst case scenario when you
trade DJ Moore is that he has a pretty good year.
and then stinks next year.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of the worst case.
You're near the beginning of the end.
If you can get a 27 first for DJ Moore.
Yeah.
If you can find someone to give that up thinking they've got a superstar with Josh Allen,
I would pull the trigger.
My trade for candidate is going to be Jacksonville, Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
Oh, man.
The horse boy.
The time is now for too long.
Last year, I mean, sometimes you have to just.
go back and read the full stat line of the previous year to reset what they accomplished.
Jason obviously didn't do that with Drake May, otherwise he wouldn't have ranked them the way he did.
But Trevor Lawrence had 4,000 yards, 29 touchdowns, and nine rushing touchdowns last year on this team.
Because he's a horse.
He's out of the stables.
Quarterbacks with 4,000 passing yards, 29 touchdowns, and nine rushing touchdowns in the same year.
It's only been two.
in 2023 and Trevor Lawrence last year.
He became a true goal line runner.
This team keeps acquiring additional running back pieces
that aren't quite everything.
Chris Rodriguez, Bechal Tootin,
now they added Amir Abdullah.
Trevor Lawrence's role around the goal line,
I think they learned something last year.
I love Liam Cohen's offense.
And if you look at him as a passer,
he still has room to take another step.
I think there's going to be a lot of opinions.
I think Mike has some of them.
that what they accomplished last year is going to be tough to repeat.
I love the weapons that they have.
His yards per pass attempt was in line with his career average.
That wasn't a weird outlier.
His touchdown rate was 5.2%.
That wasn't crazy, slightly above league average.
He threw 12 interceptions.
That was the fifth most in the league.
He could improve that by one or two at least.
And 8.6% of his passes were dropped.
The whole story of Brian Thomas Jr. was how incompetent he was.
It wasn't Lawrence's incompetence that made Brian Thomas Jr.
you're bad. It was that BTJ literally dropped the ball. That is the highest rate over the last
four years in terms of percentage of passes dropped and he put up the season, the kind of season he just
had. They lost Travis Hunter through the year, which I don't know if you've seen the most recent
interview with their general manager. I did. It's still. And he came out and he said, I still hear
what I'm hearing. He came out and said he's going to be used on offense. Yes. That was, again,
that's never the question. It was, but then he's like, I think that what will change is the uptick
not cornerback.
Right.
He will play corner more.
An uptick at cornerback, to me, means a down tick.
Well, they tried to ask him that directly, and he said, no, it doesn't mean that at all.
So whether he's lying or not, we'll see.
But Parker Washington emerged over the back half of the year.
Britain Strange was hurt for half of the year.
This offense with and because of the evolution of Trevor Lawrence and because of Liam
Cohen's presence, to me, it checks tons of boxes for your dynasty league.
Young quarterback in his prime, runs the football on a good offense.
play caller and probably being undervalued in trade circles because there are younger,
sexier names and Trevor Lawrence, we've been around the block and been annoyed for so long
in Dynasty.
You have to make the choice now in Dynasty whether you believe he's leveled up and his situation
is great.
I believe he's made that change.
I think you can get him cheaper than you normally could get a QB that I think is a top
six Dynasty QB.
I'm not as bullish as you are, but I'm like if I had to make a choice, I'd say I'm more.
on your side of it. I factor Baker Mayfields
two years ago when he was with Cohen. I take that as
part of the sample size for Trevor Lawrence of how all of a
sudden Baker's like got all these rushing touchdowns. All of a sudden Trevor
Lawrence has all these rushing touchdowns and they're just having
their best year with this guy. And it was only his first year in the
system. The nice thing is Colm didn't leave Lawrence like he left Baker.
Right. It took till the second part of the year.
But in the second half, it really started coming together for the horseboy and the Jaguar.
So I do find myself open to the idea that Trevor Lawrence is a decent target.
And man, I was looking at guys, the quarterbacks, which this is an indictment of ourselves as well.
They're getting old for NFL years.
I mean, Allen is 30.
Lamar's going to be 30.
Mahomes is 30
Herbert is 28
Joe Burroughs
going to be 30
We got the new breed
coming along
They need to
They need to get it going
Because when I saw
How many of our dudes are 30
30 is okay
30 is
30 you got four five
Easy good years left
You hope so
But here's what's crazy
Don't be influenced by Tom Brady
No I'm not influenced by him
But like
I just saw a list of the current
Age of all the starting
Quarterbacks
And it was pretty wild
Because you had Stafford at like
38
okay and then it was like a gap where it's like Gino and then Dack as like 33 and there's not a lot of
guys playing at 35 years old that's what I'm saying uh it it's more uncommon for you to be at in your
mid 30s and still slinging and giving us real good fantasy value am i too biased by the the breeze
and manning and brady and those guys i don't know the hall of famers rogers and i mean it's like
well you know Alan Alan's probably a hall of famer
Mahomes, I mean, certainly, it's like, is Burrow and Lamar?
Are they on the trajectory?
They're on the trajectory.
Yeah, I mean, Lamar is.
I don't know if Burrow is.
I mean, Burroughs at least gotten to a Super Bowl.
I mean, Lamar has two MVP.
Two, he does a two now.
I mean, I think Lamar's on the way.
I don't know about Burrow, but Burroughs also played half the games of these other guys at 30.
So, no, I think Lawrence, it's time to have the conversation and enjoy
hopefully what we wanted for so many years of undeveloped Trevor Lawrence.
So we'll take a break.
Jason knew I was going to take a break.
He didn't want to talk and have me cut him off.
Not today, Satan.
We'll turn it over to him in just a minute.
All right, we are in the middle of Dynasty Week talking about trade for and tradeaway
candidates for dynasty leagues.
And Jason, you are up.
I have a tradeaway candidate of a guy I love.
He is a-proof-it.
He's a 25-year-old wide receiver.
who was just a top five people.
What are you doing?
You didn't know this name was in there?
No, I did not.
When I saw it, I thought of you, Mike,
and how you were going to have a problem.
Well, let me talk to you here, Mike.
You're not going to convince him.
That's fine.
But the reason that I am wanting to trade this guy away
is because I think...
You haven't even said him.
He has peaked his best year of fantasy of all time,
and he's still young, was last year.
And it was my guy for me.
It was George Pickens.
Just turned 25-year-old George Pickens.
That's the point. I'm not.
Was with a capital W.
Yeah. I mean, look, obviously, you know who we want to trade away is every aging wide receiver before the floor falls out from under them.
I don't, you know, those are those are a little bit easier to see coming.
With George Pickens, what I care about here is last year was really, really, really, really inflated by the four-week stretch that C.D. Lam missed. C.D. Lamb missed three games and, and really.
really four because he played 9% of snaps in one of them.
In those games, he was the wide receiver 16, the wide receiver 2, the wide receiver 19,
and the wide receiver won and was just wrecking everybody.
Those numbers really helped him have an outrageously high fantasy finish.
What about when he was the wide receiver 3, 4, and 17 in three weeks in a row?
The CD lamp on the field.
If you want to look, now keep going.
What about the other weeks where everybody,
thought that the floor had fallen out and he was...
Yeah, 3963, bad weeks.
The player is the good ones.
The player is good. The reason that I'm using him as a tradeaway candidate is simply
because he carries so much value right now.
He's going to be really good for fantasy this year and he's 25 years old.
But he's probably playing for another team.
I mean, maybe they sign him to a long-term deal, but he's on a franchise tag right now.
Right?
So first of all, I don't think he repeats last year's six.
Is CD Lamb on those other teams he's going to get?
Is CDLM on the other franchises?
How was he for Pittsburgh?
Because, yeah, he was the wide receiver five this last year.
Pittsburgh's different, man.
No, I'm just saying you don't know that it's going to be a good team that he goes to.
And we've seen so many examples of the big free agent change at wide receiver not really working out when they get to another team.
There's a reason.
I love him as a cowboy.
There is a reason he was a my guy last year because he fits DAC perfectly.
And should he sign a long-term deal here, which I think people trying to trade for George Pickens would really, really love, that'd be great.
But, I mean...
It's tough. I don't know how the money works.
The previous three years is the wider receiver 36, 26, 46, 41.
Yes, he's young.
Yes, he was the wider shooter five.
I think that is the best season he'll ever have.
And I think you can get an absolute haul for him.
I think that's what it comes down to.
And I don't know what that translates to.
I am not saying get out of George Pickens.
He's awesome.
I'm saying get as much as you can for George Pickens.
He's in a weird spot, though.
The one year deal makes him tough.
Well, I'm saying you're not going to be able to take George Pickens and then get one of the...
You're not getting Jamar.
You're not getting J.S.N.
You might be able to get London.
There's a chance.
You're not taking George without adding a ton to move into the,
category of the Jamars. That's almost an impossible place to get in dynasty trades. So it's,
you're almost certainly trading down a tier. I actually think you can there are the names he was
just mentioning. I think you can trade George Pickens plus a little bit into a Tet McMillan.
You'd rather go to a Tate. I would much rather have those two. We were much much much rather
rather have talking Carolina. We're, we have a very strong difference of opinion of the Panthers and
Teddoral McMillan's outlook. Yeah, so I mean, I would rather have, I would rather have
London by, by wide margins. And I don't think the, you have to pay that large of a margin
to add to George. Yeah, I think you could get a mecca for turkey. That would be the, that's a scary
trade. I would do that. And, and you might be able to, you know, an injured neighbors, if you had a
first, you've got a young wide receiver and a first, maybe you can, maybe you could squeeze
something like that out. Potentially do that.
And so that's where I'm saying, I'm only selling him if I can really capitalize on the value because I don't think he's top 10 wide receiver again ever in fantasy.
Oh, okay.
Where do you have him ranked?
For 2026 right now.
No, I'm kidding.
Don't ask me about my ranking.
I have him ranked at 16, wide receiver 16.
Mike has a 64 digit password.
he has the type every time you want to look at
I have to forget password ever since I have him at I haven't met
I haven't at 18 but
George but it's
I got him at nine see that that's the thing is
numerically yeah he's wide receiver 18
but like in terms of points
how far he is off of that it's not
it's not a massive gap and
he will give you
so many spike weeks he will give
you he'll have it will have time where he will
disappear and Cid Lamb will go
but they're going to have games where George will go
and Citi will disappear.
And I think it balances out.
I still prefer Cid Lam,
but I don't know by how much.
In the games with C.D. Lamb,
he averaged 12.4 fantasy points per game,
which is good.
That is not great.
21.2 fantasy points in those games without him.
What did C.D. Lam average with George Pickens?
I don't have that data in front of me.
You're supposed to have all data in front of you.
What did I just tell you about my...
I'm looking for my password, maybe.
When I ask you something,
you have to know it immediately.
C.D. Lambs started very strong
while it took George a little bit of time, but then he got hurt.
We don't really have, I think, a good enough sample of those two
to know what's really going to happen.
I think Pickens did some things last year that Lamb doesn't do well.
Yes.
And I agree.
I think Lamb, utilization-wise, it's going to be very interesting between those two.
I think both George and C.D. this year,
assuming there's no weird off-season stuff because of the franchise,
That still does concern me.
But if we go in easily could both be in the top 12.
Mike, you get to say, did you figure that number out?
Looks like it was 13 and a half fantasy points per game from week 7 through 17.
That's the easiest way I can see for a CD.
Yeah, I mean, that takes away his...
12.5 to 13 by 4?
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.
It's tough because I'm not including the first two games where he averaged 15 fantasy points in those games.
It's just, it's hard to do here on the fly.
Yes. All right, my trade four, it's another Jacksonville Jaguar.
I'm in on Bayshall Tooting.
Thank you, Jason.
Thank you, Jason.
And it's why I think he's a good trade for a candidate is because there still is, the ground is shaky.
And this is not a firm foundation where you're like, yep, everyone knows it's going to be Tooting because Crot is still there.
They brought him in.
A decent running back.
He just got there.
Yeah, a decent running back from Washington.
Could be the goal line running back. We don't know.
That's Chris Rodriguez.
Yes.
And they just signed Amir Abdullah this morning.
Oh, man. Sneaky Abdullah.
He is a little sneaky. He's annoyingly.
Did they really sign him here?
Yeah, yeah.
They did.
He has a great football.
Yeah.
This guy has a great career.
Yeah.
He's played for so long.
He's got like when the medical benefits and the like pension stuff pads up, he's going to be doing great.
He's loaded.
Like, I mean, he outlasted David Johnson by a lot.
Why a lot.
NFL is wild.
Low reps helps.
He's going into his 12th season at running back?
What?
Yeah, baby.
Wait, he's going into season 12th?
I mean, Abdullah was basically the, his drafting, that year was the beginning of the show.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
So.
Fun fact, we used to have Abdullah Express mini posters.
Oh, man.
It was almost great.
So he did not see a, a.
ton of work. You know, you had...
Talking about Tutton? Yes. Back to Baychalt Tootten.
You had Travis A. Chan, Jr.
there as the primary guy.
But in terms of actual
efficiency,
among the
55-4-500 people,
Bayesian Tudin was fifth in rush
success rate, fifth and percent of yards
after contact, and he was tied with Breeshall
for 11th and forced mistackle
rate. As in, yeah,
it's a low volume, but he was
very efficient. He was very
good with it. He was awesome inside
the five. So you're like, you can
look at Tutin's yards per carry and so, oh,
it's a little bit low. Seven of
his carries were inside the five and five
of those turned into touchdowns.
Maybe that's a little scary for regression
of he was too successful.
But I think combining
everything that we have seen Bayshaltun do,
it's, this looks like this is a
solid running back, but he
was drafted in the fourth round.
And so just how good
he was, and then the competition,
Krod, aka Chris Rodriguez.
If you're talking receptions,
three seasons of the NFL, he has six receptions.
Talking about Krodd.
I don't think we have to...
That would be LeQuint Allen as the past catcher, not...
I mean, I think what I saw on the field last year
that I liked the most was Tutans receiving.
That's what I actually like.
My biggest concern is speaking from somebody
not making him a trade for a candidate,
my biggest concern is that he's not really
going to be able to handle being the dude.
and that this team is, and the addition of Abdullah even solidifies like,
hey, we're going to just do this by committee.
And, you know, 300 rushing guards as a rookie, maybe they're not going to give him that opportunity.
And that absolutely could.
I'm not saying I think that's going to happen.
I just don't know.
No, you are right, which is why you can possibly trade for him.
Because if no one thought that, then Bechal-Tutin would be on a rocket ship for his fantasy,
for his dynasty rankings.
And you still have to be hesitant.
even I am.
But the body of work, what we saw with the opportunity in front of him and the players who are behind him,
it seems like he will be the main guy in a very high-scoring offense as we're projecting for the Jaguar.
So I think it's worth a shot.
I'm not overpaying, but I'm trying to get him on my team.
Is it my turn?
It is.
So I have to be negative now?
Yeah.
But you were just positive.
I was. And look, we've actually talked about this in the studio quite a bit. I don't know if you guys knew this was the name that I was bringing up on today's show.
It better not be George Pickens. It's Devante Adams. Okay. That's fine.
It is time to cash out for whatever they're going to give you.
Jason, two of these three guys are on our Dino Jr. team. Well, let's take the advice and try to make some moves.
It's too late. We've already told everyone. We've got until the episode releases in the morning, Mike. Let's get to work.
the Devante
I'm so out on
Devante Adams
You are
You are
You are
I think your quote
Off air earlier
Was that guy
Was it's not the beginning
I was like
So you think this is going to be
The beginning of the end
And you're like no
Last year was the beginning of the end
This year's like
The end
Last year you had
You had the
Touchdown Insanity
Which I mean
Look
This was the best season
Anybody's ever had
Inside the 5 yard line
As a wide receiver
I don't want to take anything away from what he was able to accomplish there.
14 touchdowns is insane.
And he missed two games.
Let's be clear.
That was the season for Devante Adams.
He had three.
60.
Yeah, he missed three games.
He had 60 total receptions for this team in 789 yards.
This team seemed primed and ready to trade him away if a good offer came.
They're in the same boat dynasty managers are.
You should cash in on a Devante Adams 14 touchdown.
on season because he is 33.3 years old.
That is a big deal.
Players, they declined.
We had a whole dynasty life cycle article by Marv, Marvin Eloquin on our site that talked
about, look, the biggest decline in fantasy point production came from age 32 to 33.
30% decline in points per game looking at Demarius Thomas and AJ Green and Julio Jones
and Brandon Marshall.
And it doesn't matter the name.
time catches up.
That's why this team was ready to make moves in other directions this offseason if they needed to,
because two things, you don't get better with age, but you do get more injured, more often.
And Adams has dealt with that as well.
So you've got injury risk?
I would bet my life he doesn't score 14 times again.
And I highly doubt that he's going to go way, way higher in the total yardage total,
getting a year older when historically that doesn't generally happen.
This is the second fewest yards ever for a 14 touchdown season.
So a shout out to the James Jones 2012 season.
Oh, yeah.
14 touchdowns with, I mean, you had an MVP season from your quarterback, right?
That's not going to do that every year.
The last four years of Matthew Stafford on the Rams, 3.3% touchdown rate, 4.6, 3.9, 7.7.
I mean, we see that's not, it's not happening again.
And we see this.
We have so much data on this.
Great all-time quarterbacks.
Brady, Manning, Breeze.
This happens to all of them.
They have these outlier crazy touchdown rate years and they don't keep doing it the next year.
So I actually think this is a brilliant trade away.
It's, it's low-hanging fruit because he's an old wide receiver.
But because he just got all those touchdowns, it's like you can cash in.
I mean, you get to make those arguments in the positive of you've got the MVP at quarterback and you're on the best offense with the best play caller and you just scored 14 times and you miss three games. Like you can just say it like that.
Yeah, go to someone will want to trade with you. Go to a contender. You're obviously not going to trade Devante Adams to any rebuilding team. So be wise. Look at your league. See who is really capable of winning a championship and see what they're willing to give up for Adams.
It would take a full rewatch. Because so I can't speak to the film. I'm just.
numbers wise, he caught 53% of his targets from Matthew Stafford. It just seems weird.
Where, I mean, you had, he had two years, for his career, by the way, he's a 63% catch rate.
He had the two years in Las Vegas where he was just bombarded with targets. He caught 56% of them in
2022. I think that was the Derek Carr year. And then 59%. And that's the Aiden O'Connell year.
To go down to 53%, something just seems off.
And maybe it's the decline.
Like maybe it's a, you know,
the athleticism is slightly starting to go to the point where the cornerbacks can, you know,
catch up.
But 53% just, it seems too low.
Like, it's something, there's, it's very funky.
His touchdown rate is way too high, but the catch percentage is too low.
So maybe it meets in the middle.
There's certainly a world where, like, he's totally fine.
this year. I mean, you can get by with, oh, okay, he scores 10 times because they draw that stuff
up for him and he has 700 yards again. They didn't, you know, Mackay-Limon, that was the team we thought
could draft McCai Lennon. They didn't do that, right? Like, they don't have the next era parent,
which is why he didn't get traded. But, I mean, how long is this window? The math does a math.
You know what I mean? It's like, maybe you get by with a touchdown dependent season this year,
but you certainly are not going to be able to trade a 34-year-old Devonte Adams if he declines this year. So
to me, I'd take your shot at it.
Trade them to a contender
under the promise of being able to contribute
for a couple years with an MVP.
And there you go.
So we have more trade targets in the Dynasty Pass,
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looking at rookie sleepers,
Dynasty Mailbag and a whole lot more
any of this other news is going to break.
It should be a lot of fun.
Dynasty Week's a good time.
That's why I hit that drop.
You know what I mean?
You've now been welcomed in
to Dynasty Week.
And it's not over.
So thanks for joining us today.
We appreciate you.
Let's go make some trades, Mike.
You guys got to make some quick moves
before the show releases in the morning.
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