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Hey, it's Corlin Sutton, wide receiver for the Denver Broncos, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast
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Let's talk trades today.
We're going to talk trade for trade away
players always fun to discuss that and in the spirit of today's episode i made a trade of my
own in our league of records just uh you know get in the get in the mood be able to talk trades
more you know intimately and uh we've got nfl news we got hungry for more we've got the Thursday night preview
one of the most ironic things before you move on is that on today's episode we have some players
to trade for and some players trade away and you traded away one of the players you are saying you
should trade for that is true but you have to admit in my situation it makes perfect sense
situations are different and obviously players that you think you should trade away is because they have value that is correct and so yeah i uh we'll leave it
there and then we'll talk about it here soon uh you can check out the dynasty podcast jason was
on the most recent episode with borgen betts they talked old bland and undervalued players yeah it was it was a really good episode where
we talk about the the importance of aged veterans in dynasty leagues how to appropriately use them
capitalize them on them uh you know it's a very valuable episode i thought absolutely we had uh
i just saw waivers go through in our Dynasty League,
and Mr. Jameis Winston going for big Dynasty cash.
Yeah, makes sense.
Does it, though?
Yeah, look, in Dynasty, at least we play with two budgets,
your in-season and your off-season.
So your in-season, it's going to reset,
and it's very rare to have anyone of true value pop up on the dynasty waiver wire.
And if you need a quarterback, then you should go after it.
If a team really needed a quarterback to play this week, that would make sense to kind of secure a start.
But obviously we don't know how long Jameis Winston will last.
We don't know how good he will be in most matchups.
I mean, we do.
It's bad.
But this week, if you need a start, that makes sense.
No other bids on Jameis Winston.
A dollar would have grabbed him.
It happens.
What if your dynasty quarterbacks were Russell Wilson and Matthew Stafford?
Yeah, I still wouldn't do that.
Your dynasty fab, really?
No, I mean, look, everybody, you know, like you said, the dynasty fab,
there's not a lot of guys to spend it on.
It just feels like, are you going to play Winston over Russell Wilson this week
against Chicago?
I would play Russ.
Probably not this week, but what if that ain't?
And Jameis might not be starting the next week.
Maybe not.
Okay.
But what if that injury lingers?
He's a defensive Jameis Winston manager right here.
I respect the move.
Look, Derek Carr is going to be out multiple weeks, I think.
And let's be honest.
Yesterday, we talked about what a delight Jameis Winston was,
and I think this is just a situation where it's like,
yeah, I want that in my locker room.
I want him on my team.
Well, see, that makes sense.
But you know who I got for three fab that might be the start of the rest of the year?
Trevor Simeon.
Sure.
I'm not starting this week.
No, no.
So it's just a long view, short view.
I get it.
I'm not mad at you, Brooks.
Oh, no.
I just had to explain why I would spend up that much on those guys.
Yeah.
I feel like if Winston,
I feel like Winston was worth rostering probably in a dynasty as a depth
play anyways.
What else is going on?
Do we have, we got our drop it like it's hot reminder,
which is, I just said, waivers went through in every league.
Players hitting the waiver wire after it runs is very important.
You want to browse that.
Guys are going to hit, in fact, Dak Prescott just hit the waiver wire.
Sean Tucker just hit the waiver wire. Sean Tucker just hit the waiver wire.
Mike Williams.
Mike Williams.
Oh man.
So sad.
I like Dean Harditz's tweet.
He said, keep Mike Williams on the roster, put them on your IR so he can get a ring with
the rest of the players.
If you happen to win the championship.
Nice.
Oh boy.
Yeah. So, uh, lots, so a lot's going on.
Let's go ahead and jump in.
Welcome to Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eats.
It's quite the tail on that drop, Mike.
It's very nice.
He's hungry for more.
Yeah.
Well, we all chose wide receivers this week.
Some players we've seen flashes of through the first three weeks of the season
that we're hungry for more.
We want to see more production.
We're expecting more production, and they may be worthy stashes for your bench. For me, this is really PPR leagues only, but I would put this player on your bench,
and that is Josh Downs, rookie wide receiver for the Indianapolis Colts. 12 targets this past week
with Gardner Minshew, 8 for 57. And to me, Josh Down downs is a talented player that will demand targets the rest of the season
it won't be to the tune of 12 because gardner is going to pass more than anthony richardson who is
back at practice but i like to see i think the trajectory for josh downs is very positive
you had involvement from the beginning of the season they had spent offseason capital on
isaiah mckenzie who has not earned a role josh downs is establishing it you had involvement from the beginning of the season. They had spent offseason capital on Isaiah McKenzie,
who has not earned a role.
Josh Downs is establishing it.
And it's a nice compliment to what you have in Michael Pittman.
So Alex Pierce, not been very involved.
He's a downfield guy.
He's going to have limited total volume.
And Josh Downs, through three weeks, has passed the eye test for me.
I think he's a player that he's spot startable on any given week
and may have more value as time goes on.
So I completely agree with most everything you're saying.
You can't ask Josh Downs to do much more than he's already done.
Winning the job pretty much from week one in his rookie season,
looking good, passing the eyeball test,
it's pretty much completely a green light situation.
And you're right that it's primarily a PPR play.
He's not going to be a giant play downfield stretcher.
So the only place I disagree on, and I don't think it's a disagreement at all,
is just I do think the ceiling is limited.
You know, you're hoping that he has a Cole Beasley-type career
in just the role, and Cole Beasley was very relevant
for several years in fantasy.
So that's kind of –
Yeah, I see it, and I think it's a little bit like, you know,
last year there was excitement before the injury for Wanda Robinson in New York.
Like Josh Downs has got the same type of –
I think the same type of player as Wanda is.
The jitterbug.
Yeah, undersized.
He's going to catch the football.
And his yards per catch this past week with Gardner was seven.
That's just the name of the game.
But is he going to produce similar to maybe like a Michael Thomas does
over the course of the year?
It's possible.
Yeah, I'm looking at the target shares.
It's for a rookie, 18. you know week one with anthony richardson then 16 then 29 meanwhile alec pierce
which it's different types of targets but eight percent six percent in the two games with well
mostly with anthony richardson he got richardson of course got knocked out in week two but
richardson goes to michael pitman and he goes to Josh Downs right now.
And the wide receiver target share was 39% for Josh Downs in week number three.
32% of the yards.
Just a guy to keep your eye on.
Absolutely.
Hungry for a little more.
Oh, if we're talking about hungry for more, I'm sorry, guys.
I've got the dude.
I've got the dude. He is also hungry for more i'm sorry guys i've got the dude yeah i've got the dude he is also hungry for more
everyone is hungry for more marvin mems uh sean payton's full well he's apparently he's seen
enough get on the freaking field man he is first of all he's really really good this is a wide
receiver we we talked about him in the off season, obviously in the draft season. He's talented.
His production profile is great. He checks
virtually every box
of the things you look for
in production, in age,
in athleticism,
in film, draft
capital. He's the wide receiver 13
and 18 on 24%
of snaps the last two weeks.
You know who he reminds me of is the white.
He's now the wide receiver version of rookie year,
David Johnson,
because David Johnson never got on the field.
And yet he found a way to have fantasy relevant weeks with limited touches,
kick return,
stuff like that.
Totally.
And what's funny is you say he was the wider receiver.
13 was wider.
She were 18.
The wide receiver 18 finishes last week is only if you do not include his touchdown on his awesome punt return. If you have special team scoring as well, then he's even better than that.
He ran 11 routes last week. And I don't know if you know this, but so this is, by the way,
Marvin Mims is a rookie wide receiver for the Denver Broncos.
Most people are completely unaware at this point.
The Denver Broncos were down in that game.
Wait, this past week?
Yeah, against the Dolphins this last week.
They tuned out.
Yeah, everyone did.
So did the Broncos.
But this was an opportunity to get this rookie on the field
who is an explosive athlete.
Even after the game, Sean Payton said the only good play of the game
was Marvin Mims' touchdown return on special teams.
Brandon Johnson's getting 60% of the snaps.
What are you doing?
Brandon Johnson, get out of Marvin Mims' way.
Get Marvin Mims on the field. He is
breaking every yards per route run metric that exists. And here's the thing. It almost feels
like yards per route, single route run. How good was your route today? It was great. Marvin Mims
is talented. Johnson being on the field that much shows that there is an opportunity
to get Marvin Mims more snaps.
Additionally, the Broncos are running 11 personnel on just 47% of their snaps.
That is 23rd in the league.
I'm sure Dulcich going down changed that a lot.
League average of three-plus wide receivers is more like 65%.
So there are multiple ways because because Andy, you brought up,
he's not overtaking Cortland Sutton, he's not overtaking Jerry Judy. Now an injury to either
of those players should catapult Marvin Mims' opportunity easier. He will be the wide receiver
three, but if you could have him be a 60% snap player like Johnson is, I think Marvin Mims will
be someone that you could throw in your lineup every week and hope for a great play because he is I think a special talented uh
rookie wide receiver negative game scripts you just talked about it that could be the recipe
for Denver the whole year yeah I really really really want to see more Mims and now the problem
is is do you roster him because I don't think I don't think right now I think you probably
I have and fab yeah I mean I have you probably wait and fab, don't you?
I have him on a couple of different teams
in redraft where he's
just waiting on my bench.
If you need a start immediately,
then sure, you
probably want to look elsewhere, but I do think
after this last week, I wouldn't
be surprised if
Denver goes, let's make some changes.
At some point, Marvin Mims will work his way onto the field.
Mike, give us the third wide receiver you are hungry for more.
I am hungry for more because I want to know what is the truth for this player, and I don't
think that we can accurately say what it is.
The truth of the first three weeks is Romeo Dobbs of the Green Bay Packers has been fantastic
for fantasy football.
Week number one, wide
receiver 10, wide week number two
is terrible. Jaden Reed gets all
the love. Week three,
his hamstring looks like it is
finally back to healthy.
His snaps... Maximum
hamstring. His snaps have jumped
from... You! It's me, my hamstring.
Is that Adam?
Adam Thielen's hamstring?
Yeah, because he's such a young man.
48% of the snaps in week one.
He's now back up to 86%
and 12
targets. Now I know the Packers were
mounting themselves. They come
back against against New Orleans
Saints but 12 targets only five receptions but 73 yards and a touchdown Jordan Love I mean has been
really overproducing when it comes to touchdowns Romeo Dobbs has been part of that and the accuracy
hasn't totally been there for Jordan Love now what I mean by we don't know the truth is Christian Watson should be back Thursday.
Aaron Jones should be back on Thursday.
But Romeo Dobbs was the one who got the bulk of the offseason hype
yet again for the Green Bay Packers.
The beat reporters were saying Romeo Dobbs,
he looks like he is Jordan Love's guy.
He's 6'2", he's 204 pounds.
He is built like a wide receiver one or the the ex-player
who can absolutely get it done what does what does Christian Watson do to the target share when Romeo
Dobbs is on the field he maybe he comes in and Watson's the superstar but that's why I'm hungry
here I want to see can Dobbs become that player that had hope two years ago, had even more hope this year, and so far, so good?
I think it's very possible.
If you look at the targets being distributed to, you know,
I think he's a good young player, Jaden Reed,
seven, eight targets the past two weeks.
You look at the targets distributed to Dontavian Wicks,
six targets, four targets, Luke Musgrave getting targets.
This offense, you know, they're throwing the football.
And so there should be enough to go around.
I do think Christian Watson, and he's not in the segment later.
To me, he is a trade for target.
Sure.
I think Christian Watson potentially, and I hate saying it out loud right now
because I had some offers in the works for Al Borland,
who's got Christian Watson on his bench.
You aren't getting him for an hour.
And I gave up because, exactly, I said, he's not doing this.
He's a Packers fan.
He's a Packers fan.
I think Christian Watson's going to be very good.
And I think Romeo Dobbs can be very good as well.
Yeah.
There is a world where Watson is getting the six targets a week
and just hitting on two to three huge
plays, but Romeo Dobbs is
more like a
Des Bryant type of player where
you get higher target volume and you get
a lot of touchdown upside because he's so big.
And the nice thing is when Watson's out there,
you know what won't happen? Right. Double coverage.
Double coverage.
Oh man, I'm hungry for
more of that. No one's even hitting the button. I don't know if I have a button for that. No, that works. Double coverage. Oh, man, I'm hungry for more of that. No one's even hitting the button.
I don't know if I have a button for that.
No, that works.
Okay.
You approved.
Okay.
Yep.
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watson but then i realized you did oh i did yeah but then i realized i did did i really you did
i realized you said no i think my uh andyoff for AI bot might have sent that through and not me.
But I saw you got Darren Waller and you're kind of stuck.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not happy with the output I've gotten from him.
Were you actually interested in Laporta despite being a Waller manager?
Sure.
Okay.
Look, you learn something new every day.
All right.
Into the news.
Saquon Barkley, day-to-day category, according to Brian Dable.
He's been day-to-day since the injury.
Two things cannot be true here.
Right.
He can either be day-to-day, and it's not a high ankle sprain, in my opinion,
or he can have a high ankle sprain, and Brian Dable is what we call a liar.
Well, considering Saquon came out and said it is a high ankle sprain,
and considering that almost every head coach in the league is a liar,
I'm going to 100% assume that this is a high ankle sprain.
I saw a really neat tweet from Edwin Porras who talked about how
high ankle sprains, the average time to come back on the field
is almost always either zero missed games or three missed games.
Like that's when you have a high ankle sprain.
You're either back the next week and you just –
This is why you were in on Burrito.
Yeah, or you're going to miss three games.
So I don't expect this day-to-day –
I mean, the day-to-day nonsense is probably something where you it just means bad news for waivers and you got to wait till sunday
before he's ruled out yeah nope even worse jason giants are monday night oh are you brian it is an
absolute disaster and i'm cackling over to myself imagining because coaches do this you know just
like the the the the gannon move of who's our quarterback, Brian D'Abel's trying to
gather some sort of competitive advantage.
And imagine being the defense.
All week, you're getting ready for Saquon Barkley.
And then he's ruled out.
And you're like, oh, crap.
Our plan was for Saquon.
How are we possibly going to stop Matt Burrita and company?
Just tear up the defensive play calling.
It's ruined.
Someone, someone quickly get on this Gary Brightwell stoppage plan.
What do we do?
Yeah, the opposite would be the only competitive advantage
where there's no chance.
That's the better one to go in.
Dayball should be saying, oh, it's probably going to be several weeks,
and then boom, Saquon's on the feet.
He might be month to month at this point.
I don't know.
You're right. He should completely flip
it. That being said,
Monday night game
gives him an extra day to recover.
I don't know if I want to throw the
committee out there. Matt Breida had
four carries last game.
Now one of them ended up as a touchdown
to salvage your night.
But it would have been an unmitigated
almost goose,
from your running back position.
And Gary Brightwell got a lot of work, and we didn't even see Gray.
Yeah, they did basically split the work.
We've talked a lot about Brightwell as –
or I'm sorry, we've talked a lot about Breida
and not a lot about Brightwell as the replacement.
So, you know, I would still definitely go Breida first,
but it's not like he just inherits Saquon Barkley's volume.
You knew it was going to be a disaster against the San Francisco 49ers
and that picking up Burrito was more of a,
well, if Barkley misses time,
then they get the Seattle Seahawks the next week.
That's not that you're loving playing Matt Burrito,
but look at the landscape of the running backs.
We're not loving
very many of them at all right now. Anthony Richardson progressing through the concussion
protocol. We'll take normal reps today. We expect him back on the field. Doug Peterson said Zay
Jones is a long shot to play in week four. See, now that's how you do it, Doug. That's how you
do it. Oh, he's definitely not going to be there long shot cardinal's not in a hurry to
immediately activate kyler murray when the pup window opens according to jonathan gannon i know
jason you have some stuff to say yeah this was a really important quote from jonathan gannon
not only did he say that just because the window of his availability to to activate him from the
pup he he said you know yeah yeah, we realize we can.
You know, it's probably not going to happen right now.
So that's important.
But then he talked about he wants him to be ready physically and mentally, have a couple
of weeks of practice.
So what this means is that so the way that the pup works is once you activate someone
off the pup, they can practice.
But you still have, I think it's 21 days before you basically have to
have them active in a game or else they basically go back to pup for the rest of the season which
means based on his own words and I and I believe this uh because of how and when it was shared
basically they're not going to activate them yet and And then when they do, it's probably another three weeks until you see him.
So I think you're talking about a month and a half, two months before you see Kyler.
And this is really important for fantasy because I was starting to toy around with,
okay, the Cardinals play San Francisco this week.
Probably not going to go well.
Obviously, they had a good game against Dallas, but this one's in San Francisco.
And Hollywood looks like a great trade for Target if Kyler's going to be back soon.
This quote means Kyler is not back for another month or two.
Okay.
Yeah, you're right.
And I think, did you see this thing?
Arizona didn't have a jersey available for Joshua Dawes.
Yes.
They weren't selling them.
In the store.
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Let's Talk Trades.
Shall we?
Shall we?
Yes, let's do it.
Shall we trade?
I jumped in this morning.
I made a big trade in our league of record.
You did.
You fired the silver bullet.
Which was?
Your number two overall pick.
I did. In our league, we can trade draft picks.
You cannot trade your first, so the second is the strongest draft capital pick you can move.
And it's always, in our league, a game of chicken to see who's going to start just blasting that draft capital away.
And the winner this year is Andy.
Well, I try to be the winner most years.
I get impatient.
I'm going to double down on my trade for players.
I'm going to throw two names.
Okay.
The original name is Sam Laporta, tied in for the Detroit Lions,
currently the tied in two on the season.
You still have an opportunity to go and trade for Sam Laporta.
You can play up the rookie narrative.
This is a player that is on pace to break the rookie record
in terms of total targets.
He's not going anywhere.
That is my message to you.
So I think Sam Laporta is, in the landscape of tight end frustration,
is a very worthy player to go and pursue.
And very likely, he may be rostered by somebody that has a couple of tight ends
on the team because he was picked up as a free agent option.
It's possible he was picked up by the Andrews, Waller, Kittle, Goddard, Kelsey
managers in your league.
And if any of those are the case, there's going to be an opportunity to pick him up.
And this message is, he's worth picking up.
He's worth putting on your roster.
I think he's an every week start.
Now, Jason mentioned it.
I did trade Sam Laporta this morning.
I have Travis Kelsey.
So that was something that, look, other than the bye week for Kelsey,
he's never touching the field for me.
So you're saying Kelsey's going to be better than Laporta this year?
Yes. Sorry. What was that voice? Are you from Clueless? Yeah, that was a very California girl.
So I think Laporta is the pickup. And the other name I want to throw out there,
and I know I mentioned Christian Watson earlier, I actively went and traded for Garrett Wilson this
morning. I made the determination. This is a generally untouchable
player that the situation in New York is so cataclysmic that people are down. I mean,
he hit our waiver wire. He hit the waiver block in our league. Sorry, let me rephrase that. He
hit the trade block. He was not released. I don't see a way that it doesn't get
better for Garrett Wilson now in three weeks he's got the least accurate quarterback in football in
Zach Wilson he's put up in our league format 11 which is half point 11 17 and like 8 Zach Wilson
is not going to be the permanent starter for this team there's already talk of friction in the
locker room. Players very
upset about the fact that Robert Sala is a
is the Zach Wilson apologist
in the room. Players do not
want to go out and put max effort on
the field if they're not getting the best on the
offensive side of the football.
We've been here before
and Garrett
Wilson's a top five talent
at the wide receiver position. So for me if you can go bargain shop for Garrett Wilson's a top-five talent at the wide receiver position.
So for me, if you can go bargain shop for Garrett Wilson.
Which I think you can.
Which I think you can do.
I think you can go trade somebody that's had a really juicy
or pretty good three weeks and then go make the trade offer for Garrett Wilson.
I think it gets better.
I really do.
I think New York, it's Trevor Simeon or somebody else.
Yeah, I mean, I will agree with you that when Zach Wilson is replaced,
it will get better, literally no matter who it is.
Trevor Simeon is not good, and it will 100% be better if it is Trevor Simeon.
I would just say that the reason I think it works especially well in your context
where you traded for him is we're a keeper league.
So if it doesn't work out this year, which I could see, you know, in the Megalobowl,
I benched Garrett Wilson for four different wide receivers this last week, and it was a good move because he scored fewer than them.
And if it doesn't work out, you have the option of a great keeper value in giving up your second so if i think if
you're out there playing in keeper leagues it makes a lot more sense to say hey this is a player
i can't usually get a hold of or a dynasty league um well and i don't have to start him i mean that's
the other situation if you have a couple of good starters you're looking for a flex you're looking
for a wide receiver three or four and you can get get them on the cheap. I believe that the talent of Garrett Wilson, we saw it last year.
Did they have quarterback play in New York last year?
Nope.
When Zach Wilson was off the field, they had better.
A little bit.
But, I mean, it was a challenge on offense,
and Garrett Wilson still had a big year.
So, look, that's a couple of trade for ideas.
I will hand off the baton.
Well, since you're bringing up last year, I'm going to trade for a player who was great last year who was bad the first three
weeks of last year who's been bad the first three weeks yeah yeah he has yeah talking about Josh
Jacobs currently the running back 25 and half PPR scoring he has not eclipsed 10 fantasy points, 8.1, 7.4, 9.5 fantasy points per game.
You look back at last year, the first three weeks, he averaged 9.5 fantasy points per game,
16.7 opportunities. So he was getting the ball, just wasn't getting it done last year.
Don't know why those things happen sometimes, but they're happening again because this year he is getting 19.7 opportunities per game. The running back landscape is putrid right now.
Everyone is in need of running backs. The only teams that seem like they're okay at running back
are the ones that just happen to get, you know, a Kyron Williams or Zach Moss and pick someone up that was unexpected to add to their
roster because a lot of these guys that we drafted to be relied upon have not worked out.
And I think Josh Jacobs' managers are freaked out. They're like, this guy just isn't getting
it done. He's not that good. This is an elite running back who is getting almost 20 opportunities
per game with no one on the
depth chart that's going to change that going forward. Josh Jacobs, this is the worst stretch
of his season. So for me, I will 100%. I've gone and made a couple offers for him in a couple
different leagues. I'm not paying a premium. I'm not trying to say, like, I think he's going to be the running back three
like he was last year after, you know, the bad start to the season.
But he's a quality volume play that is not going anywhere,
and managers who have him, I think, are willing to sell him cheap right now.
After three weeks, the smell is starting to accumulate on the nostrils of Jacobs' managers
because I even found myself in my dynasty league going,
is he the guy I try to move?
Do I try to move him to try to get younger someplace?
Because it's not been a fun ride.
But I like that you brought him up here.
It encourages me Jason the I generally speaking
you have to buy into to running backs we're getting that opportunity we do have now we're
only three weeks in but you got to make some decisions week one is what freaks me out they
played the Denver Broncos and in that matchup that we have seen now two other games,
the Washington Manders destroy them on the ground in Bryan Robinson.
The fiasco against the Miami Dolphins running backs.
And in week one, Josh Jacobs and crew was only able to manage
2.5 yards per carry against that Denver Broncos team.
Now maybe they were more fired up because it was week one,
and they're now getting demoralized and losing faith in their defense,
but that's the one note where I'm like,
I don't know that Jacobs is going to turn it around.
But the argument for pure volume,
and if you can get pure volume cheaper than you would have paid for the draft,
I would do it.
Okay.
Mike, your trade for candidate is?
It is Zach Charbonnet of the Seattle Seahawks,
rookie running back, and this is a play for the future.
The snaps of Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet
are cross-fading.
Like, Walker has been great for fantasy football.
I think that's what makes trading for Zach Charbonnet an even easier proposition right now.
When you go to whoever is holding on to Charbonnet, you go, look at what Walker's doing.
You think Charbonnet is not the guy right now. Meanwhile, the snaps for Kenneth Walker, 63, 61, 51.
The snaps for Charbonnet, 24, 26, 43.
He was brought down on the two-yard line on an absolute beast of a run.
He was drafted in round two for a reason.
I don't think he's overtaken Kenneth Walker to be the number one,
but I think that this is going to morph into a timeshare sooner rather than later.
Right now you don't have production that is matching the outside peripherals,
looking at the opportunities that Charbonnet is getting each week.
Three opportunities week one, six the next, 11 the next one,
and Charbonnet is going to be the guy they turn to when they need to pass the ball. Three opportunities week one, six the next, 11 the next one.
Charbonnet is going to be the guy they turn to when they need to pass the ball.
They're scoring 37 points each of the past two weeks.
This is an offense that's starting to get it going.
Both Walker and Charbonnet can have fantasy relevance.
Andy, you're going to talk about Kenneth Walker.
If a manager is in love with Walker right now, it's going to be pretty hard to go get him.
Meanwhile, Charbonnet is not doing a ton, and I think that the arrow is going to be pointing up.
Yeah, let's transition into tradeaway because I intentionally put Kenneth Walker into that category.
And you guys might both disagree with this assertion he's the running back three so it's
rare to say hey a guy that's dominating for fantasy you should move him but it's very difficult
Charbonnet snap counts are going up he seems to be the two minute drill back Kenneth Walker
has scored four touchdowns in two weeks okay Josh three games, all those opportunities, no touchdowns. You're not getting
38 touchdowns a year from Kenneth Walker. He has benefited from two weeks, Detroit, Carolina,
37 points in each week. I think he's a top 12 running back, but if you can cash in on
the ceiling level, like you could go get a different running back right now like could you
could you go and acquire you know make an offer for the tippy tippy top of the running back
position if you attach kenneth walker with somebody else would you be tempted you're saying
to try to go get christian mccaffrey using kenneth walker plus something else that's what i'm saying
yeah i would do that i would do that if i can can trade up from Kenneth Walker, I would do that.
Now, let me offer one more, two guys we talked about.
Would you trade Kenneth Walker for Josh Jacobs and Garrett Wilson
if the manager had that?
Yes.
Okay.
I would.
I would as well.
You would?
I would.
I would rather have the Jacobs and Wilson, Garrett Wilson side.
Yeah, I mean, those are two players that have been frustrating
through three games.
That opportunity and talent is something you believe in for both,
and that would take a lot.
I mean, Kenneth Walker played 51% of snaps this past week,
and he was great.
He was dominant.
He is a super
super talented player but uh he has dealt with injuries historically and mike you know you just
talked about zach charbonnet there are going to be some games where i think charbonnet is going to
be more involved and kenneth walker is not going to fall into the end zone and um you know week one
for kenneth walker is going to be part of his story. You know, 12 attempts, 64 yards, didn't score.
Well, that's good enough for running back 28 that week.
Well, and if you look at the following week, I mean, he scored 17 fantasy points,
but he scored two touchdowns.
Yeah, 17 for 43 on the ground.
Yeah, two and a half yards a carry.
He didn't have a great game.
He had a very, very good fantasy game because he got a couple touchdowns.
So it's just a matter of do you think the touchdowns are going to keep coming on the regular?
I'm sure he gets plenty of them this year, but it's not going to be to a game.
And as of right now.
Would you trade him for Bijan?
Yes.
I would much rather have Bijan.
I mean, that trade offer will go through in leagues for sure.
I think I would do that.
I would try to extract a little bit more because Bijon had the down game.
But looking at five zone carries, no, that's the money.
That's where we want our running backs getting attempts.
Kenneth Walker has six total, three in week two, three in week three.
Charves already has two.
Look, I'd rather have six, but the point is,
Kenneth Walker is not the exclusive goal line running back.
They're already factoring in Charbonnet into those planes.
And last year, I believe, if my memory is correct,
he was the only player in the NFL who had 100% of his teams inside the five
already three weeks in.
He does not.
And he was very inefficient.
He's been far more efficient on converting him this
year yeah he's a good player this is not a yes this is not and it's really important that everyone
listening understands this this is not a saying Kenneth Walker's gonna stink you should trade
him away this is saying he he's at probably a peak value that you can capitalize on if you squeeze everything out of that.
That's the point is capitalize on peaks as opposed to just saying,
oh, he's not going to be as good, so let me get rid of him.
That's not what we're saying.
Yeah, and he had nine touchdowns last year,
but six of the nine came in three weeks where he scored two a week.
So it is exactly about capitalizing on the high performance
of the most recent week, trying to
remove some of the emotion from the
equation and looking at higher
value options. So, Jason,
you have a provocative
I feel like you have made a decision here.
I have made a decision
and my decision is if I have King Henry,
Derrick Henry, the Yeti, the unstoppable, immovable force,
the monstrous mountain of a man,
I am going to try to trade him away for something that I think is more safe.
I think there is a lot of risk in Derrick Henry right now,
and he has not been terrible.
His first two weeks was pretty good.
This last week was a down week.
But with his name recognition, his volume, the fact that he's still been okay this season
so far, you're going to be able to have teams that are willing to pay a premium for a premium
player, for a player who was in the running for
MVP over the last couple of years at the running back position. He's awesome. He's great. However,
for the first time in his career post taking over, he has competition for touches. He has
another competent running back on the team he has someone stealing both carries
and snaps away from him he's obviously the oldest he's ever been and will continue to be so um
it's very astute thank you this is a team that looks like they could be on the cusp of collapse
and i think that they will recover quickly as a franchise I think they'll make a couple good transactions and and uh pack it in if that happens they're right now they're going to
be fighting for wins variable's a good coach uh it's a it's a well-run franchise but you look at
the upcoming schedule you say okay well this week Cincinnati who do you expect to win that game
right now the Tennessee Titans or the Cincinnati Bengals even with a hobble Joe Burrow, I'm sure that the Cincinnati Bengals are the favored team. Derrick Henry is going to do
much better in wins than he does in losses. He also does better on the road than he does at home.
And so this is a, this is a home loss. So it might not be a good week for Derrick Henry.
You got Baltimore two weeks later, you got a bye week after that. And if at this point in the
season coming out of the
bye this is a team that has not won a lot of games I just worry that the future will be focused on
the risk is calamity it's not just mediocrity the risk to me in holding on to Derrick Henry is that
and I don't think it's a guarantee I don't't think, oh, Derrick Henry's done. But I see the path where Derrick Henry could be done soon,
and you don't want to be holding that bag,
especially when it's a valuable bag you can get something for right now.
So, to me, that's the player I'm most scared of the future,
the rest of the season.
I think you could definitely find people that are willing to make the bet
and the gamble and say, hey, he's going to be be back to form and there's going to be some people out
there if you put him on the block that's probably interested in that so if you believe yeah I mean
that the odds are low he comes back to form this team competes then I would rather have so to talk
about my trade away and trade for Canada I would rather have Josh Jacobs than Derrick Henry rest of
season I think most players out there if that trade was offered they would they would take
Derek Henry sure over Josh Jacobs who hasn't been good so far this year so I think that would be
easy but you might be able to do even better if you've got a good team you've got some wins and
you want to take a shot at Saquon because maybe he misses this week and a manager is desperate or
or package him and trade up there's a lot of you know Derrick Henry right now and the reason why I'm saying trade him now is because
he's got value like if he ends up having a bad couple of weeks goes on by week middle of the
season you're not going to be able to get anything for him Mike yours is depressing. Yeah, look, any tradeaway candidate, it's depressing
because you're scared of King Henry, that he's circling the whirlpool
and he's about to head down.
Swim strong, Derek.
I want you to succeed.
Yes, we do.
My tradeaway candidate is Damian Pierce of the Houston Texans.
He's currently the running back 29,
and I still believe in the player of Damian Pierce of the Houston Texans. He's currently the running back 29. And I still believe in the player of Damian Pierce, but I believe that he is in close to
an impossible situation for his skillset. He has been like, he had a good week this week. That's
why I'm saying maybe you can find someone who's desperate for a running back and looks just at the total fantasy points and says,
okay, I'll take on the risk of Damian Pierce that he's going to get better.
But he's averaging only 2.38 yards after contact,
which that is the same as A.J. Dillon,
who has been ferociously dunked upon throughout this season by you guys.
He's averaging 2.5 yards. What. He's averaging two and a half yards.
He's averaging two and a half yards per carry on the season.
And it's, again, I think it's the offensive line.
Now, the story that you can weave is the offensive line is going to get healthier.
And maybe that's something that you believe because they should.
They got some guys on IR that are going to return.
Maybe things do actually improve for Damian Pierce.
But I think we're a long ways away from that happening,
and it is not the carrot that was dangled out for all of us for preseason was,
holy crap, Damian Pierce might be truly a three
down workhorse in this in this offense he is not saying he's no Zach Moss yeah I'm saying he's not
getting 98% of the snaps Zach Moss style they are going to Devin Singletary is the two-minute drill
guy they're going to use Devin Singletary's skill set when they're trying to catch up, which they will be trying to catch up in a lot of games.
The upcoming schedule, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, the Saints, and then a bye week.
Pittsburgh's actually 29th against running backs.
So if he fails again this week, I'm going to be real depressed,
which he probably will.
That's the way I'm projecting it as well.
So even if you're holding out hope
for the offensive line to return it might be five weeks from now before you're actually
recouping some of the dividends from that that gamble and by then you're like then damian pierce's
trade value could be absolutely cratered and you're just you are you're all in your chips are
all in on damian pierce and if you're tempted to buy low on Damian
Pierce on the other side of the logic train
and you're saying, hey, I'm going to let him
hit the ground, wait for that.
He's got the single most depressing
end of season playoff schedule
I've ever seen in my life.
He faces the week before
going into the playoffs, he faces the Jets
in New York. Perfect. Then
he faces Tennessee.
Great run defense.
Cleveland.
Great run defense.
Tennessee.
Same as the one before.
Yeah, they have to play.
Wait, wait, wait.
I hear what you're saying, though.
Let's invert that.
So you're telling me.
Derek Henry.
You're telling me the Yeti.
Houston, blank Houston.
What am I doing?
Trace for Derek.
You have made a terrible mistake.
Retract.
The Yeti is Yeti places.
Yeti is winning championships this week or this year.
Houston blank Houston in the playoffs.
Oh, that's rough stuff.
Well, you make your own decision out there.
No, no.
But between the Houston and Houston game, he does play Seattle at home.
That's pretty nice.
Going back to Damian Pierce.
I think this is great to bring up, Mike, because especially bringing up what happened in preseason.
This was a player.
I was OUT the
whole offseason, completely did not want Damian Pierce, didn't have any shares of him in best
ball, saw the way that this could happen. And then preseason happened and it was like,
oh my gosh, they're actually going to use him as the two minute drill back as the passing
as everything. They're going to use him as like a full-time workhorse back,
and there's just not many of them.
Well, they've already shown that's not what they're doing.
That isn't what they're going to do.
And if he's not a workhorse back,
you're going to be disappointed a lot more than you're going to have great games.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't think you can get anything for him after that three weeks.
Well, not after this show.
And I think you're at
least going to have some volume from him i mean when you talk about talented player that's going
to have volume i don't think it's going to be a fun ride i think you have to look at it like
he's not going to win you weeks i mean he he got into the end zone because someone got dragged down
on the one he's going to score every time that happens yeah so that'll be nice but i mean the
the yards per carry is terrible i'm somewhat happy with three targets a week every week.
I mean, that's going to help you a little bit.
So much better than zero.
But, I mean, his fantasy production in the first two weeks
was five points and four points.
Yikes.
I mean, and that was against, you know, Indianapolis in week two,
Baltimore week one.
His snap count did go up last week, and they put up 37 points.
And I'm encouraged that the offense could be better,
but I'm with you, Mike.
I've tried very hard in my brain to create the pathway for Damian Pierce,
for it to get a lot better, but it's not easy to find.
Yeah, and I'm not disagreeing that it could be difficult to find the trade partner
to move on from Damian Pierce.
But because you had the one spike week
and looking at what's about to happen with the Houston Texans,
this is kind of you're either bailing out right now
and maybe you're not getting a full return on the trade,
or you're fully committed to Damian Pierce
because it's probably going to be a rough three weeks.
I want to put it to the test with names.
Okay.
Because you say you might not get the full return.
Are you trading Damian Pierce for Isaiah Pacheco?
I would rather have Pacheco, yes.
Are you trading Damian Pierce for Najee Harris?
Ooh.
That is super tough.
I think I'm going to go Najee.
But, I mean, they're both in a very similar situation.
These are talented players.
Brees Hall.
Oh, I'd go Brees Hall.
I'd shoot for second half upside.
Devon Achan.
Man, that sounds wrong.
I'm still not over it.
But yes, Achan.
That is – that is a volatile move.
The first name that came up when you brought this up in my mind was,
okay, so if you had A-Chan, would you trade for Pierce?
Or if you had Pierce, would you trade for A-Chan?
I know my answer.
I don't think things are going to be great over the next three weeks for Pierce,
and they could be for A-Chan, so I think I'd make that move.
I would as well.
Talk about a completely
different type
of player
in a different level of
utilization Pierce will have lots of opportunities
to run for two yards
HN may have minimal opportunities to run
for 70 right
and that is a tough thing because your
lows may I mean it's hard to get lower
than what Pierce gave you in week one and two.
Okay.
I've got one last question for us that, you know,
we might have more questions from the listeners.
But for me, I really want to know where you guys stand on this
because I think it is a question that the answer will be so right
or so wrong by the end of the season.
When you're trading running back for running back,
someone wins and someone loses.
Who would you rather have at this point going forward,
Devon Achan or Zach Moss?
Oh.
Oh, man.
The 100% of snap type of player who's dominating,
but has a JT problem possibly, or A.J.
So I want you guys to have to answer this on record.
I think it's a very fair thing to bring up,
because if Jonathan Taylor comes back week five,
I think he goes right into what Zach Moss is doing right now.
Only it's Jonathan Taylor who, Zach Moss has been great,
but Jonathan Taylor is a better player.
There's a chance that maybe it's, you know,
like only 70% of the snaps or something for Taylor.
But the point is that Zach Moss' value will crater
if Taylor actually plays for the Colts.
Oh, man.
It's such a mess because it's not football stuff.
Right.
I'm not in the locker room for the Colts.
I'm not in the management.
You don't know how real dug-in Jonathan Taylor is
in the context of Irsay.
Yeah, and how dug-in Irsay is.
Yeah. And then over on the Miami side, what is the health of Irsay. Yeah, and how dug in Irsay is. And then
over on the Miami side,
what is the health of Jeff Wilson?
When everybody is healthy
for them, and Ahmed too,
when everyone is healthy, all
four players legit could take snaps
for the Miami Dolphins. That is
something that could happen. For sure.
Yeah, I mean, and this is... And that's a disaster
for fantasy. Maybe
not enough
fantasy analysts say i'm not sure yeah i think it's okay to answer that one because i i haven't
traded my running back depth in part in one of my leagues because i know zach moss has a it's like
you look at the bottom of the milk carton and it says could expire next week now he might might, you know what I mean?
And then you're like, I'm going to take another sip of this
and I'm going to keep it in my fridge.
And it's delicious right now.
And it could be delicious all year, like legitimately.
Let's play the hypothetical out.
JTT does not come back.
Let me just throw this out because we do have a recent tweet from today
from Dan Graziano.
Colts running back Jonathan Taylor, quote,
still doesn't want to play for the Colts,
and the Colts, quote, still don't want to give him a long-term contract.
So we're in the same exact spot we were with Jonathan Taylor,
but someone has to leverage.
Someone does not.
If Zach Moss is alone and Jonathan
Taylor does not return to play with that
uniform on, Zach Moss
is what rest of season? Top 15
running back. I think he's
the running back from here on
out. I would say the running back 18.
I think
and then so you have to make
that call because if that's the case, he's better than
A-Chan. He's a better player.
He's going to have a better outcome than
A-Chan if there's no Jonathan Taylor, I think.
Yeah, if there's no Jonathan Taylor,
you get a 100% snap player
who's involved
in the pass game. Very difficult to...
Follow-up quote. Graziano says it would
not surprise me if his first game of the season was in a different uniform.
And guess who was the most interested?
That's what's so funny.
Not anymore.
It was the Dolphins.
The Miami Dolphins.
Oh, I think they're still very interested.
But although Mostert has been great, but they've dealt with injuries.
Like Ahmed's been hurt.
Jeff Wilson's been hurt.
Mostert always gets hurt.
A. Chan's been hurt.
I think it would be difficult for the Miami Dolphins,
after having what happened this last week,
I think it would be difficult for them to trade for Jonathan Taylor,
to give up draft capital and a contract.
I disagree.
Now, here's the thing.
I'm saying that right now, like this week.
If something happens where Jonathan Taylor continues to play chicken
with the Colts
and he's just waiting there for another injury around the league and HN goes down or Mostert
goes down obviously I think it's crazy they're gonna grab him crazy situation yeah the HN is the
that is a scratchers I mean you pretty decent odds on it but you just don't know. A-Chan could be unstartable, and A-Chan could be a league winner.
Yeah.
That is a rare combination in a player.
Let's do the league winner thing, A-Chan.
Let's go, baby.
Thursday Night Breakdown.
I'm looking forward to this game.
The Detroit Lions, 2-1, taking on the Green Bay Packers.
They have to go to Lambeau and do it.
The DraftKings Sportsbook line, Detroit minus 1.5.
To me, that is a profound line.
The over-under is 46.
Both teams are 2-1, which is another reason I'm surprised
that the lions are road
favorites here you know lambo is a tough place to play and um the winner takes control of the
division and it looks like the packers are going to be healthy i think as of this moment the
expectation is that both christian watson and aaron jones will be available obviously that's
it's still a little too early to know that definitively, but that's what's been reported.
What's interesting is that Jordan Love has had a really fantasy-relevant,
productive amalgamation of a season.
And I think this is really, really good for the Jordan Love fantasy believer because the first three weeks he produced,
because he has produced at a higher than sustainable touchdown rate.
So he's throwing touchdowns at a really high percentage relative to his
throws.
I think he's thrown the most uncatchable passes in football.
You know, we talk about the Luke Musgrave shots.
He's completing only 53% of his passes.
And yet he's finished at quarterback three and six.
That is better than only Zach Wilson.
Now his touchdown rate
did decline.
We are back at 7% on the
year because it went down to 2.3% this past
week. I say all that to say
I believe he's a pretty good quarterback
and I think that the accuracy things
will improve over time.
It will improve when you add Christian Watson and Aaron Jones back to the offense.
And so the touchdowns have masked it.
And I think that touchdown percentage can go down and the accuracy can go up
and you can sustain fantasy value.
Does he sustain it this week against a Lions defense that's pretty middle of the path this year?
They're 14th against quarterbacks, 13th against running backs, 10th against wideouts. They've made pretty vast improvements. I enjoy watching
Brian Branch roam the field. It's for fantasy. I mean, I think I'm playing everybody, you know,
like Aaron, if Aaron Jones is back, you're, you have to put him in. Um, AJ Dillon should be on
the bench. AJ Dillon should be on the bench. A.J. Dillon should be on the bench.
I love this sentence.
I'm playing everybody.
Dot, dot, dot.
A.J. Dillon should be on the bench.
As in, I'm playing the regular players.
Christian Watson, if it's his first game back,
I don't care.
I'm going to fire him up.
Romeo Dobbs has played too well to not be in flex consideration for you.
Musgrave just keeps barely missing.
Romeo Dobbs or Garrett Wilson this week?
Give me – what's the Jets matchup?
Kansas City.
Give me Romeo Dobbs.
I would as well.
Okay.
Sorry to cut you off there.
No, I'm just saying, like, this is exciting.
This is the Packer team that we had the hopes for.
Jordan Love made a bet on himself.
The Packers kind of hedged their bet on is Jordan Love the guy with the way that they reworked the contract for him.
And he should succeed.
If Jordan Love is a competent quarterback with the players who are around him,
he should succeed in the NFL.
And so far, we're feeling all right it
feels like he has a deep wide receiver room with watson dobbs jayden reed who is an emerging i
think talent he is and then wicks and musgrave and like it actually feels like they have equipped
him in a way that only aaron rogers would dreamed. It's crazy because they're all so young.
There's like no veteran here outside of Aaron Jones at the running back position.
It's just the youngest core of really good receiving options that can grow together.
You do need Jordan Love to play better.
He's missing too many open throws.
He cannot continue to do that and succeed
and have touchdowns or other things
mask his play he's got to improve uh this is a matchup his incomplete passes are hitting
empty dirt right he's got one pick on the year as opposed to being picked off uh this is a really
good matchup it's at home which i like i i really like that this game is in Lambeau for the Green Bay side of the field.
Do you start Jared Goff? Who would you start Jared Goff or Jordan Love in this same matchup?
Because Goff has not been a road warrior, and Jordan Love has been running the ball,
which is really nice. He's on pace for over 400 rushing yards. it's a very nice baseline to give you i think the home player
is probably the pick there i think jordan loves the pick i i'm going i'm going jared goff goff is
um he's got one good game and two disappointments sure the and we are we're still a little bit too
early to fully start trusting the information
from schedule-adjusted fantasy points given up.
But as of right now, the Green Bay Packers,
when you're adjusting for schedule at the quarterback position,
they are a plus matchup,
mostly because they gave up so many extra points to the Desmond Ritter
and the Atlanta Falcons.
But they gave up plus points so far to Justin Fields, huge points to Desmond Ritter and the Atlanta Falcons uh but they gave up plus points so far to
Justin Fields huge points to Desmond Ritter and then they held the Saints under which granted
that one's a little bit hard because their starter went down in the third quarter I think I'm still
a little scarred from last year and I need to be proven before I need to see it to believe it with regards to golf on the road.
If you look at his splits last year
at home, he averaged 21.3
fantasy points on the road.
11.5.
Blarf.
Yeah, it's fair.
It's fair. Jordan Love or Justin Fields this week?
That's the number one question on our Start sit tool on the website which by the way
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Justin Fields. I would
assume you both will go Jordan Lowe.
Yeah, I'm going to give
my heart a break.
I don't blame you.
The doctor, I talked to him
after the Fields three starts.
Blood pressure issues. He wants
me to bring it down. You brought up
earlier this week, or yeah, I think it was earlier this week,
you brought up the fact that if Justin Fields, if you bench him and he does good,
you go, all right, we're back.
I've got an asset.
If you start him and he does bad, you're...
Popping pills.
Yeah.
So I don't blame anyone for taking any other starter over Fields.
I think the matchup against the Denver Broncos,
I'm going to go that way.
Dan Campbell says he feels good about his left tackle playing.
David Montgomery has a chance to play.
Is this a Dable chance to play, or is this a realistic chance to get on the field?
This is more realistic to me.
Yeah, being Thursday night, I'm not sure.
Does it change how you would treat jameer gibbs and
whether you would play him no i'm gonna play jameer gibbs either way okay talk to me about
this i look i am i i went out on the record jameer gibbs is my guy this year he's been he's
been the running back 24 and 23 the last two weeks which is not meeting expectations and
also not destroying you now is that because you saw just how excited the
detroit lions front office was when they smashed the draft button to take a running back at uh
12 overall whose superpower is catching the ball and in two of three games they've given him two
targets yeah it's concerning it is what are you doing opportunities the last two weeks for Jameer Gibbs one with Montgomery in the game 16
opportunities one with them out of the game 19 yet that has not translated to anything that makes
you happy for fantasy those are great numbers 16 opportunities 19 opportunities are great numbers
you look at how he performed in those 17 carries he He had 80 rushing yards, 4.7 a clip.
He was very good. He didn't score a touchdown and he wasn't targeted very much in the passing game,
which we know he should be and can be at nine targets a week prior. It has been kind of a,
ah, so close week one fell on a touchdown. Ah, just didn't get the, you know, it was all right.
Week two, week three wasn't involved in the passing game, but there's still, he has looked close week one fell on a touchdown ah just didn't get the you know it was all right week two week
three wasn't involved in the passing game but there's still he has looked good individually
his opportunities have been there the fantasy value hasn't come I am not at all steering away
from Jameer Gibbs Amon Ra's in your lineup Sam Laporta's in your lineup Josh Reynolds people
went out they said hey let's give it a go um no targets in 77 of snaps it was the
laporta amon raw and uh why is the name escaping me khalif raymond show last yes last week
and so reynolds is not really he's too risky business to me khalif raymond was what people
thought josh reynolds do you think they just switched jerseys?
They did, actually.
Yeah, a little swap.
Anything else from this game you guys want to discuss?
No, I don't think so.
I'm not looking to play either of these defenses, even though it's a Thursday night, and oftentimes
it doesn't become the barn burner you want.
I'm excited for the game.
These two teams have put up a lot of points.
And, yeah, I'm very excited for the NFL version.
Like, this is super important.
This division is one of these two teams to have.
Second time in four weeks, we have Lions Thursday Night Football, I believe.
Because we got them week one.
So that's not something people would normally be thrilled about
from years past, but I am thrilled about it now.
It's a very fun division to watch.
Before we close out, do you think Kirk Cousins gets traded?
They're 0-3.
I mean, there were rumors before the season.
They traded where?
The Jets?
Are you saying New York?
I mean, that's –
I don't think they can afford it.
When I say where I mean, aside from the one team that really needs a quarterback right
now is Washington.
Go back home.
Maybe I don't just throw it out there.
There's been some some rumors because they're on three.
I do not believe that they will trade him.
He's playing very well, and
this is, you know, if they
lose the next three games, maybe they'll consider
it, but I think they need him right now.
Alright, that is going to do it for today's episode
of the show. Tomorrow we have our starts
of the week, the matchup previews,
and then, well, I get to
spin that familiar wheel
on Friday. I've missed it.
I've missed that wheel. Yeah. I've missed it. I've missed that wheel.
Yeah.
That'll do it.
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