Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Trade Tips + Burrow/Lamar Face-Off, Dowdle'ing! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/6

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Get ready for Week 10 on today’s fantasy football podcast! Andy, Mike, and Jason answer tough questions and preview Thursday Night Football! Plus, Hungry For More players, and tips to get more trades done in your fantasy football league! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 6th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (07:10) - Hungry For More (9:10) - TB Wide Receivers (11:35) - Zay Flowers (14:45) - Rico Dowdle (23:35) - NFL News (25:35) - Thursday Night Breakdown: Bengals at Ravens (33:05) - Mailbag (33:45) - Jonathan Brooks / Chuba Hubbard (41:20) - Encouraging trading in my league (46:55) - Trade Travis Etienne for Courtland Sutton? (50:40) - Favorite football foods? Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Hungry For More presented by Uber Eats News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, it's Corla Sutton and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Why are you pointing at me? Because tomorrow's football time. I want you to remember. So I, it's Wednesday, brother. This is I panicked.

I knew we were talking about Thursday night football and I panicked and I thought it was Thursday and I was giving you the signal and it all went sideways. We were talking about the games. Got a 50 point over under. Spoiler, my hungry for more is going to be Zay Flowers. So I'm with you Andy and you start pointing the mic. I'm like, Oh yeah, it's football time. I know. And then we pointed you and you're like, you held firm. Yeah. Well, because I was way, why do I gotta be the only one who knows what's going on over? Why is everyone pointing at me? It is indeed not football time well good morning very soon. Good morning tomorrow It's almost always football time Mike this week the Thursday night football

Will take place on Thursday, okay? Look some sometimes things get crazy and we get Monday night games on Friday. So I understand the confusion. They've done the Monday night football game on Saturday and it's still called Monday night football? That's the brand. That's not okay. That's so stupid.

Monday night football presents Saturday night football. Right, you can't. It's so dumb. Your brand can't be a day of the week. That's not, nobody can claim that as your brand. I'm a little disappointed that my vigorous pointing at you didn't lead to you just saying something. You got it's Wednesday. You got me to look over at the top right corner to

be like, No, it's Wednesday. Oh, it is. It's Wednesday, November 6. Welcome into the fantasy footballers got me. Welcome in one and all. We have a great show for you today. We've got Hungry for More. We've got, your waivers went through today, so make sure you drop it like it's hot. Check out who was released by the other teams in your league.

That is our weekly reminder to do that, because sometimes somebody great hits the waiver wire. It does happen. So pay attention. And a reminder here at the top, go download the mobile app. Go to your iOS store, your Google Play store, grab the Fantasy Footballers in-season app. Right now, the Foot Clan resources,

the Ultimate Dashboard now available on iOS, coming very soon, hopefully this week, to Android. So you can get the app now, grab the update when it comes through and you can access the Ultimate Dashboard with a custom waiver wire, with your lineup optimizer as you get ready for the Fantasy Football playoffs, which are, you know, they're inching closer. We're getting there.

It's November. Yeah, you know, I actually, I wanna say- It's cold outside. It's not playoff time yet, Andy. I think it's worth actually bringing up that it's not that close to playoffs. As a team that's kind of on the bubble in our league of record, having to make choices as to am I in, am I out, you know, it's keeper league, so pretty much half teams sell, half teams buy. Near the trade deadline, there are still several,

several weeks left before week 15 when the fantasy playoffs start. We got five. We got six, right? Or five full games before then. Yeah. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. Yeah.

So, five full weeks and you're going to have people giving up. You're going to have a couple teams along the path that are easier victories. So if you're considered, we get this question all the time. It's like, I don't know if I should go for it or if I shouldn't. If you have a shot, go for it. I genuinely believe that.

That's the best advice, because if you make it to the playoffs, you can get lucky a couple wins in a row and go home with a championship. I'm with you. If you bow out, you're definitely sad and a loser. If you go for it, you might win. Yeah, I mean, you're probably gonna be a loser, because. But you might. 11 out of 12, or nine out of 10 of us,

are losers at the end of every single league, and we still choose to do this. So Mike, you're gonna go for it? The dynasty, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, Mike's. Absolutely. Mike's dynasty team, and I'm gonna start setting this up publicly.

Mike's dynasty team is one of the greatest teams ever assembled in our league. I know what you're doing. The thing that won't work. The thing that sucks about his team, genuinely, publicly. Mike's dynasty team is one of the greatest teams ever assembled in our league history. I know what you're doing. The thing that sucks about his team genuinely is it can't lose, Andy. I know what you're doing. It won't work. There's no way that his team could alter. Mike, this is not a gag. This is legit. It's so legit. No, it really is legit. The players, your management, you can't even mess this up. Yeah, it's unstoppable Any players not gonna work just like you keep saying you keep telling us you don't even know why we care about that Lee

You got it locked down That's just agreeing with you that you have it on lockdown and there's no way anything bad could happen I'm just gonna say that the way you're talking right now, it sounds like you do actually care. And you shouldn't. What? You should not. I do care. I care to see you. We're shooting for second.

That's what I want. I hope you get third. Me and you, second, third? Yeah, that's fair. That would be, if you're aiming for second, you guys are both aiming really high. Okay, all right. Well, this is good. The highest you guys are both aiming really high. Okay. All right Well, this is good the highest you could possibly get this year in that league. We'll keep this going

All right, follow us on x at the ff ballers I mentioned the app and um, we've got a new dynasty podcast out today if you're unfamiliar we have a a special dynasty Podcast fantasy footballers dynasty and jason is on it with Kyle and Betts, giving out some mid-season dynasty awards, including, and I'm reading this verbatim, the most disappointing youngin,

the running back Houdini, and the super flex quarterback surprise. Oh, that's Darnold. Well, we each give one, so there wasn't one. We actually cover quite a few players, but players that are moving the needle in both directions. Either, either it's gone poorly for them, Travis Etienne, or you know, there's, there's, sky's the limit ahead. Yeah, yeah, and from a dynasty perspective. So check that out. We're Hungry for More. from a dynasty perspective, so check that out. We're hungry for more.

Welcome to Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eats. All right, this week's Hungry for More candidate for me, I am hungry. This is true hunger here. I'm hungry for a Tampa Bay wide receiver to stand up because Baker won't stop cooking, man. He's been so good this year that he's turned now K-dotting into a top five tight end. He's completing 72% of his passes. He's on pace for 4543, and we're multiple games

without his top targets at wide receiver. Those numbers from Baker, he would be the only quarterback ever to put up those three numbers, the 72%, the 4,500, the 43, since Drew Brees did it in 2011. Yeah, that's right. Laser Mayfield has been outstanding, but we have spent two and a half weeks talking about, oh, is it Jalen McMillan? And then maybe it's Trey Palmer. And then Sterling Shepard makes some

plays. But he's almost 32 years old. And Rakim Jarrett. Will a wide receiver option please stand up? Because I think if they do, if one of them does, we will be having the same conversation we had with Kate Otten. We will be talking about somebody important for fantasy. And I think we will. And I think we know who it's going to be. But see, I don't know a name you're going to say. Michael Evans. Do not forget he is coming back with the injury to Chris Godwin and Hal Baker has been cooking.

They've got a tough matchup this week against San Francisco. Not a great matchup. I don't expect Mike Evans back the bye week after that. So you're not having Mike Evans for a handful of more weeks. I expect him back after the bye. And then they've got a great stretch down the road. So I do think Mike Evans is going to be a difference maker. So you think that maybe we won't have another wide receiver stand up? It'll be Otton and Evans for the meaningful portion of the year?

Yeah, I mean, I'm hungry as well for one to do it. I just don't know that they have the talent. I would say Jalen McMillan would be the player I am most excited about. He's a good looking prospect. He's had a successful rookie season. The opportunity is there. That's who I would put my chips on as the ancillary wide receiver piece problem is he's just injured right now

Yeah, you know obviously Mike Evans injured too, but Mike Evans second ballot Hall of Famer, so he will be He'll be coming back to greatness. They have lost four of their last five games Tampa Wow and Baker's doing everything so wrong. I know Baker's doing everything he can. That feels so wrong. I know Baker's doing everything he can to make it happen. I mean he lost by 10 to Baltimore in a shootout, 41-31, then lost to Atlanta by 5, then lost to Kansas City in overtime. So it's like, can those three losses, they're so close they should count as like one win? No. Not my NFL. The NFL doesn't do median. Okay. Well, Jason, who are... Oh, I did NFL doesn't do median. Okay, well Jason, who? Oh I did have a great idea for the NFL by the way, speaking of like NFL going by median,

I think I brought this up, but this is not a joke. This is legitimate. Oh yes, yes, yes. This is legitimate. I'm telling you right now, they need to take a page out of fantasy football and the tie breaker for playoffs is not divisional record or head to head matchup, it's points scored. Dude, that would be so awesome.

You wanna know who people want in the playoffs? They want the highest scoring teams. That is a wild thought because my immediate reaction was, oh, there is no more taking your quarterback out in the fourth quarter of a play. Run it up. It's running up the score. The gentleman's knee when you get inside the five.

There ain't no gentleman anymore. No, this is professional football. Stop us if you don't want us to score. None of these whiny coaches being like, damn, I'm poor. No, that was poor coaching. You're fired. No, I would love it. I think it would be so much fun and In a fell you would be totally justified in scoring in scoring and scoring. Yeah, it's hurting your players

It would be horrible for a player state I mean the truth is the teams that are are clearly playoff bound wouldn't Wouldn't really worry about that if they're up by a ton and they bench their players in the fourth whatever It's so funny It's the teams that are on that bubble that want to get in the playoffs you want to get in the playoffs score Yeah, put points on anyways. I'm hungry for more say flowers. I Say flowers this last week impressed the heck out of me I just he was always wide open, but then when guys try to tackle him He was like no, I'm still wide open because you can't catch me.

I'm a human joystick. He was so good. And it kind of surprised me to go back and look. Because at the start of the season, the first three weeks, Mark Andrews wasn't getting it done. Zay Flowers had a good week too, but week one was a dud. Week three was a bust. So it was like there was no trust.

So was week four. Yeah, it just fell over the first month. Like there wasn't a trustworthy source. And it has surprised me. You know, you just don't always remember what happened last week, next week, and then the week after. But the last five weeks he's been on an absolute tear. The wide receiver 13, six down week with three and a half ASC points, the wide receiver 11, and the wide receiver two-6 down weak with 3.5 ASC points, the wide receiver 11, and

the wide receiver 2. He's been extremely involved. He's looked great. And so what I'm really hungry about, they go out and they trade for Deontay Johnson, and that made me fearful for Zay Flowers. There's just, when Lamar runs so much, and sometimes the passing pie is not as big as you would want, you're like, well, it's okay if the targets are consolidated, but if they're not and if Deontay Johnson comes in here and starts earning himself six, seven, eight targets in a game, that's gonna crush Zay Flowers. I don't want that to happen because Zay Flowers has, right now, I don't think you can bench

Zay Flowers. Until Deontay comes in and changes the landscape, Zay Flowers has just been too darn good and his good performances have been great. I mean they're wide receiver one on the week type of numbers. He is wide receiver six on the year in total points scored. You bring something to mind and tell me if I'm wrong. But so far, Amari Cooper gets traded to Buffalo, right? Keogh Coleman has some great weeks. Devonte Adams gets traded to Jets, and Garrett Wilson has had some great weeks.

Now Deontay Johnson has the Baltimore and welcome Zay Flowers. I mean. So you're just saying people need more motivation. I'm saying that like. Like you need to be scared, like you better step it up. We just talked yesterday about the incredible splits

this year between T. Higgins on the field and T. Higgins off the field for Jamar Chase. I just think a better offense raises all the water, what is the boat? Water raises. The boats have water in them. Yeah, water raises all the time. No, no, there's no water in the boats. You flip the boats. The tide raises all the water. What is the boat water boats the boats have water in them Yeah, well, there's no water in the boat the boat the tide raises all shit. That's the one there it is So what you're saying is obviously CD lamp CD lambs. Oh, yeah with me go now that they went out

For you go All right, I did actually just you know full disclosure full work of the analysis I had a dream that CD lambs scored like 50 points the rest of the season so 50 total every week Dominated with the backup. Oh, I mean this was last night. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen But we don't know yet. So yeah, maybe yeah, we'll see Mike. Oh boy So yeah, maybe yeah, we'll see my query. Oh boy Baby, come on, of course, you know who I was gonna be hungry for the I unfortunately was

Unavailable for the show the week after the huge Rico week earlier in the season, but I'm here for it now, baby 12 sure you did miss out on your chain. Yeah 12 for so my chance was back 12 for 75 5 for 32 and a score. And a debate about Rico is simply just, is he good? Is he a good running back? And I think that the jury is still kind of out on that. However, right now, this far in the season, he is fifth among all running backs in rush success rate on the season. And what that is, a play is successful when it gains at least 40% of yards to go on first, 60% of yards to go on second,

or 100% of the yards on third or fourth down. Meaning, the guy is absolutely getting it done on the ground. And also, I am. I want to play a game. I was just going to say that I have felt the table rumble under the fist pounding of Mike over there. Every every point he's made on Rico Dowell. He has hit our table. This is going to go ahead. Mike, let's play a game. Not we don't want to play. Please don't say Breeze Hall or someone

We're gonna talk about Rico Dowdle working in the passing game. Okay, we're gonna put him up against Superstar pass catching running backs is a problem Rico Dowdle has appeared in seven games this year guys. Okay, so has Travis ETN Who has more receiving yards? Who has more receiving yards? Superstar first round pick Travis ETN or Rico Dowdle? ETN's been hurt. Yeah, Rico Dowdle. Is that seven full games? I doubt it.

OK, well? I doubt it. OK, well, what's your answer? Dowdle. I'm going to go Dowdle. Yes, Travis ETN, a measly 97 receiving yards in seven games. Let's go to then, oh, let's go, let's see. Superstar running back Saquon Barkley,

who has played in eight games compared to seven for Rico Dowdell, who has more receiving yards? All right, now we're talking. Yeah, okay, you're making a strong, stupid point. I'm gonna go Rico Dowdell. It is, in fact, Rico Dowdell. Good for Jason, that's, stupid point. Um, I'm gonna go Rico Dowdell. It is, in fact, Rico Dowdell. Good for Jason. That's a full point.

Thank you. Superstar pass catching running back Jameer Gibbs. No. Who has been in eight games compared to seven for Rico Dowdell. I've gotta go Gibbs. I can't go that far. It's gonna be Dowdell.

No, it is Jameer Gibbs. Okay, I get a full point. You, yes, but here's the thing. Who has more receptions? Well, now I'm gonna go Rico Dowdle. It's Rico Dowdle. Jameer Gibbs. Objection leading the witness.

In eight games, Jameer Gibbs has 165 receiving yards. In seven games, Rico Dowdle has 163 receiving yards. Hey, I had a nice parlay on Dowdle's over this last week. So. I see the receptions. Rico Dowdell has 163 receiving yards. Hey, I had a nice parlay on Dowdell's over this last week. I see the receptions. The, I don't know what the heck the Cowboys are doing. The Cowboys don't know what they are doing. But the point being, just let Rico Dowdell be your running back for the rest of the year.

You have been. Stop with the bull crap. You have been begging for this. Stop putting dusty, washed running backs. Who had great, Zeke, it was awesome. The career of Zeke should be celebrated. The career of Dalvin Cook should be celebrated. But as in, we're celebrating it.

Yeah, past tense. Because it's over, just let it be done. Let the good times be what they were in our memories. Move forward, let Rico Dowdle, fifth among all running backs. Become a monk. In rush success rate, dominating in the passing game. And by the way, I didn't even do receiving touchdowns. He has more than all those guys.

How are you not in a Rico Dowdell jersey right now? Do they sell those? So I am 100% hungry for more Rico Dowdell. The upcoming matchup against Philadelphia, it will be a true test with a backup quarterback. How good will it work out for fantasy? I don't know. Okay, I just, one question for you, Mike.

Yes. What percentage chance do you give the Dallas Cowboys to have Ezekiel Elliott as the lead back this week? That's- More or less than zero percent? Oh, it's higher than zero. Yeah, this is the issue.

I agree, but I'm just trying to get people to the point of, like, no, if Rico's on the field, we got ourselves a top 20 fantasy running back. That's happening. But will he be on the field? I don't know, because Jerry Jones has running back. That's happening. But will he be on the field? I don't know, because Jerry Jones has no idea what he's doing. By the way, a quick update to the Mike Evans comment. We just got word that he is working off to the side with a trainer today, a first step, and working towards returning after the bye, which is the plan.

If he's working to the side right now, you've got essentially three weeks before he plays football, two missed weeks of fantasy action, he should be ready to go. Do we have any updates on Nicko Collins? No, no, no updates on Nicko Collins. They're still evaluating.

Oh, before- Who did you trade for him again? Everybody. Everybody, I traded my second, my third, which are the two best picks. I traded Tank Del, who would be really good if Nicko's gone. Pooka? Pooka Nakua, but I got John of the- But, which are the two best picks. I traded Tank Del, who would be really good if Neeko's gone. Pooka?

Pooka Nakua. But I got John of the- I mean, there were other pieces. Yeah, I got John of the Taylor back. Real quick before we move on, because we're hungry for more. And I just had this pulled up when I was looking at Zay Flowers. I was just really surprised.

Lamar, we know he's been good, right? Oh, yeah. He's been very, very good. He should probably win the MVP. Yeah, I think he might be one of the players that actually deserves to win the MVP, not just being the quarterback on the best team. But how many rushing yards do you think he's on pace for?

Oh, that's a good question. I don't know. I think it's... More than Rico Daddle? Yeah, probably more than Rico Daddle. I don't know, I'm gonna say a little bit lower though than we were, than the average that he's been giving us. Right, so maybe like 700.

He's on pace for 953 rushing yards. How many passing yards do you think he's on pace for? Given that he's on pace for 953 rushing yards. Are we 4K? Four. 4,500 passing yards. Let's go baby. How many passing touchdowns do you think he's on pace for? 35?

37.8. I mean he is a monster across all... He hasn't had a single week this week where he's not a quarterback once. This week? This is the Lamar that we hoped we were going to get last year. We've had it a couple times in this year. Well I'm saying when the offense changed last year, this was the excitement that he's going to run. And I just have to give this one update here

for Jerry Jones doesn't know what he's doing. Oh, boy. Jerry Jones talking about Trey Lance in the absence of Dak Prescott, he's gonna be front and center a lot there are things we can do with him and I think can add punch to the offense so is he playing a different position what in God's name does he what does he mean Mike what did you say the other day like three weeks ago to Jerry I was kind of mean but I said Jerry Jones, shut up. Shut up!

Do you think they would trade Tray Lance for Braylon Allen? Yeah. I only say that because they gave up their pick that they could have drafted Braylon Allen or a lot of the running backs this year. Instead, they have Tray Lance as their backer. Just wild, so maybe we'll get Tray Lance on the field. This is just entertainment. Sorry Cowboys fans. That was Hungry for More presented by Uber Eats where you can get the best deals on gameday food all season long. Uber Eats the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now we will take

a break we'll jump into the news. I just feel like like if your head coach are the Cowboys like did you talk to Jerry about this or do you have to hear this through the media and then go what are we doing with Trey Lance he probably is hearing about it through the media. What am I gonna do? I have a plan for Trey Lane. I didn't know that. I can't imagine Jerry's not everywhere. What if he just sends texts like every couple minutes? Yeah, I'll bet he does. You hear about this mingo guy? Well, I got him for ya. You're welcome.

You gave up, what, you gave up an eighth round pick? Ninth round pick? Doesn't exist? No, fourth, all right, moving on. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Well, the Steelers did not get Brandon Iuke. They did not get Devante Adams. They didn't get Deandre Hopkins, but they did get Mike Williams they

give up a fifth round pick to get Mike Williams from the Jets 30 years old he in George Pickens game what's that incoming George Pickens game well look I I do think Mike Williams kind of works in this offense better than other offenses he could have been traded to. I mean, I guess they'll just run their guys down the field and chuck it, but Russ can do that. It means nothing to me in fantasy. I think it is great for George Pickens. Like the- To have another body? Have another capable wide receiver on the team. And more of a, the Steelers, since the beginning of the season, have been trying to get a wide receiver too.

It could have, like, if Adams goes to the Steelers, you know, what do we think of Pickens? We're super freaked out. So like, Mike Williams is not someone where you're like, oh no, targets will not be going to George Pickens. The targets will remain the same, and they might be even better now. That was the big piece of news.

Trevor Lawrence also limited in practice dealing with a shoulder injury. The team signed C.J. Beathard off the practice squad. And Khalil Herbert, new member of the Cincinnati Bengals, likely to get an opportunity on the field on Thursday, as soon as Thursday. So generally easy for running backs to make the transition and get some opportunities. Yeah, Burrow was talking about it,

and he's like, he's right next to me, I'll tell him what to do. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that's it. All right, that was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. Let's talk about that game

Thursday night breakdown Cincinnati's four and five still alive that's wild they were they were. They're used to this. It's just how they operate. They were two and five, right? So, um, they were dead. And now they can be one game. If they win, you're one game back of the Ravens. The Ravens are six and three. Yeah, you're right. And, um, Baltimore's at home. They're six point favorites. The over-under is 53 on DraftKings Sportsbook. It's currently the highest over under of any game so far in 2024. Week five we saw 79 points. There's an overtime game. Baltimore won 41-38. Lamar threw for 3-48 and 4. This is the game that Jamar Chase had 10 for 193 and two. Higgins had a big game as well,

not expected to play in this one. No, it doesn't seem like it. The Baltimore pass funnel defense is giving up the most passing yards per game, combined with what Joe Burrow has been doing. He's on pace for over 4,500 passing yards. I guess I'm asking, like what? Who are you not starting?

Yeah, I mean this game just feels like it should be entertaining, exciting. Like think about the different scenarios in this one. Like Baltimore's favored, right? Mm-hmm. So Baltimore gets ahead, you expect Cincinnati to still be successful passing the football trying to get back into the game.

Mm-hmm. If Cincinnati gets ahead, it's gonna be still be successful passing the football, trying to get back into the game. If Cincinnati gets ahead, it's gonna be great. Baltimore can get back into the game at a moment's notice. Like, I don't see a scenario where a blowout undermines any fantasy production. No, well, I mean, the only way that it happens, and I don't expect it to happen, would be probably to Derrick Henry.

He can still be game scripted out a little bit of these games. Get Justice Hill on the field if you're needing to play catch up. The truth is they haven't needed to play catch up a lot this year. Derek Henry's rushing stat lines in Ravens wins? 25 for 151 and 2, 24 for 199 in a touchdown, 15 for 92 in a touchdown, 24 for 132 and two, 15 for 169, and 23 for 106 and two. Right now they're favored by six, they're at home. So you expect there, Kenry, to have an unbelievable game. That 15 for 92 with a score was Cincinnati.

I mean, that's a great game. In the last six weeks, both defenses have been top 10 against the running backs. Chase Brown, you know, last week his game was, it was a great football game, but he also, he had a receiving touchdown in it. Are you, you gotta be confident in Chase Brown, right? Yes, Chase Brown has taken the lead job.

Even if Cleo Herbert plays, I don't expect it to be like, oh, he's going to go into Zach Moss's role. And we're talking Zach Moss for the beginning of the season. Chase Brown is going to be the guy for this running back crew. And Herbert will get snaps here and there. Chase Brown was, I think he was a hundred percent, yeah a hundred percent of the running back attempts, a forty-seven percent workhorse percentage, which is like forty-seven percent of attempts and targets. That's just, that's too much for any player to do on a week-to-week basis.

Let me ask you a question though, because Chase Brown was not a player drafted to be your starting running back. He's evolved into that. That means he's on a lot of teams where they had other established running backs and you have to make start state decisions about some of those guys. You see the big game from Brown last week. Players like J.K. Dobbins, right, who's had a lull, had a good game, he plays a tough Tennessee defense, or Chase Brown on Thursday night. Which way would you go?

I have them back to back in my rankings. And right now I've got Dobbins one spot ahead, but it's a great name to bring up. For me, I would play Chase Brown simply because I get more information on the week. If they are literally that close, they're in the exact same tier, the exact same setup where they're going to get the ball a lot against a very

difficult run defense. Give me the high over under and give me the Thursday night football so that I know when I'm looking at the rest of my roster moves, did I get off to a strong start? Did I have a dud week? You know, do I need to swing for the fences? That extra information is good for getting a W. I want players in a game where the over-under is the highest of the year. So if it's the game we expect and Higgins misses which he hasn't practiced obviously Chase is in your lineup and he'll be fine but where do

you turn to for that other you know 23.5 implied point total where do you turn to for other value is it is it Yoshi Voss is it Sticky Gussicki? Yeah Sticky Gussicki should be really really good in this in this game. I know you blew our minds with the fact that he only played 36% of snats but when he's on the field he's a pass catcher. He is there to exploit a defensive play. He's got eight targets, six targets the last two games without T Higgins at the tight end position. Now what's interesting would be the conversation of what if you've got Mike Gusecki and Mark Andrews? Because-

I have seen that already on X this morning, those questions coming through. Isaiah Likely is not gonna play. He's been a DNP on Monday and Tuesday with a hamstring. So I'll just be surprised if on a short week Isaiah Likely plays. With him out How sticky do you want to get I would go Andrews personally I I tend to lean the other direction where I feel like I

Would go to Siki I would go pass catcher. I'm not sure that Andrews Isn't blocking a ton in this game. I think that the Ravens, their team applied total is almost 30 points. I mean, that's a good reason to believe. You talk about the touchdowns Andrews has had recently. Which player has a higher likelihood of a touchdown? It's definitely Andrews. And just the last week was. It was close, man.

Last week was a total bust, but they beat Denver 41 to 10. They shut guys down early. Zay Flowers ran four more routes than Mark Andrews. And each of his routes were to the house. Yeah, and so he was ending drives on those catches. So this was not a, the production wasn't there. I'm just saying the Mark Andrews role,

it wasn't oh crap, we're back to week two where Andrews is not involved in the passing game at all. Here's the real truth of the matter. Andrews has the higher odds in this game to score a touchdown. If neither player scores a touchdown, I think you'll be happier with Gassicki. I would agree with that. Even on this year,

I don't know if you know this, but on the year, Mark Andrews has 29 total targets on the year Gassiq has about right. He has 36 targets and he's playing far fewer snaps and Was sharing time. I mean I agree with what your statement is the higher likelihood for a touchdown is Andrews If neither player gets a touchdown, you're probably happier with Kosicki because more targets and yardage. Yeah, Andrews is averaging 32 yards a game this year. I would still go the Andrews side personally. I think the the likelihood for a touchdown is jump into the mailbag. Mailbag. Mailbag, ooh, yeah, yeah.

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click the submit a question button, or dial our voicemail hotline, 302-464-TFFB. First question we got from YouTube, what to do, this is from Ryler Little, what to do with Jonathan Brooks question mark because Chuba is a good player mm-hmm scored again last week your start of the week what do you do I don't think I'm playing him well I mean we need the full activation news as well cock and you just did we didn't miss that

hopefully I'm not playing him this week. It will be, like, it's going to be really interesting to watch here, like, do they go back to Bryce Young? What does this team do? Because like, Chuba is an unrestricted free agent going into next year. If I'm the Carolina Panthers, I'm not going to overwork Brooks, but I at least

want him to get some acclamation. You need to know what you have. Exactly least want him to get some acclamation. You need to know what you have. Yeah, exactly. I want to get some acclamation into the NFL, and hopefully, if I'm running the Panthers, I'm in about a 50-50 timeshare by the end of the year with him and Chuba, just to see what I have. I think a lot of my opinion on Brooks has to do with what does he look like on the field?

Does this look like a special player, or does this look like, you know, kind of how Trey Benson is muddled along this year? Does he, which Benson's had some plays, but it's not. It's taken time. Yeah, it's taken time and that's normal, but it does tell you something. Like if you come out there and, and Jonathan Brooks, you know, you bring up A Chan and his passing game work in Miami. If Jonathan Brooks is a obviously superior pass catcher that brings something special

to the offense, which is something he could be doing, it's going to dictate his playing time. Yeah. I'm excited to have Jonathan Brooks. There's no world where you should be starting him this week. We have no idea his utilization. They might, you know, in his first game back from the ACL, they might give him five total opportunities in the game

to just kind of ease him back into getting hit for the first time by an NFL defender. I wouldn't be surprised at that. Now my expectation is more than that. I think they're going to give him a lot of the Miles Sanders role that he has had, which has not been significant, but a couple weeks ago when I, on the Parlay Partay, was looking at Chuba Hubbard's over on reception totals, and I'm watching the game,

I'm like, man, the passing work, the packages they're bringing in, Miles Sanders, they've clearly got him as the passing game guide, not in the two minute drill. It was like the end of the game two minute drill where Chuba hit that mark. But I could see them working him in in the passing game. So that's what I'm watching for more than anything, is do they bring him in on designed screens more than once? And I think they will and if they do, that'll be a good signal to one, see how he looks

and two, get him more involved for fantasy. Todd Gurley, not that they're the same player, of course, but Todd Gurley was coming into the NFL off of an ACL tear. And his first game was week three. He had seven opportunities. The Rams then turned everything over to Todd Gurley. I don't know if that'll happen for Brooks,

but the timing of, we're in week 10, correct? We're going into week 10. So they will play the Giants, and then they're gonna go into the bye week. So the optimistic view is he goes out there, looks good, and maintains health, like he's still good to go. They go into the bye week week and then they say,

yeah, let's roll with Brooks from here on out. That's the possible positive spin of it. What's kind of- He needs to be activated by 4 p.m. Eastern today. So we will know for sure if he is going to- In a few hours, yeah. Yeah, if he's going to play football this year. Well, to me, the more significant fantasy impact

might actually be on the other side of the equation. Because through nine weeks, Chuba Hubbard's a top 10 running back. Chuba Hubbard has been outstanding. So depending on what you believe about Jonathan Brooks' involvement and what this team's going to do, you know, I don't think they're going,

here's what I truly believe about their relationship with Chuba Hubbard. I think they love him. I do too don't think they're going, here's what I truly believe about their relationship with Schubert Hubbard, I think they love him. I think they love the player, I think they love the locker room guy, and I doubt they're gonna try to sub, like subvert his opportunity to go out and get a contract if he's not coming back to this team as well. So they wanna win ball games, Dave Canales has to win

ball games, it was proven has to win ball games. It was proven last year with Frank Reich that if you don't win in year one, you can be fired halfway through the season. So that balancing act is gonna be interesting. Chuba Hubbard has been out-send. Do you know what he's averaging yards per carry this year? If you had to guess.

I would guess about four and a half. Five. Wow. He's averaging five. He has 665 rushing yards. He has been a top, you know, running back the majority of the year. His bad games are like running back 26 and 34

in the last eight weeks. So that is a, it is one to watch. And whether you're getting to start Chuba Hubbard rest of year or not, that's gonna depend on what they do. I don't think this team is looking at it the way that fantasy players do, which is like, we gotta get our next guy

in there forever right now. They already told us that, they told us before the season that Jonathan Brooks would play by week three or four. That was the quote from Dave Canales, it's week 10. They also said a week ago, he might not even play this year. Well, we'll know in a couple hours. In a couple hours, if he's not activated.

Well, even if he's active, though, I mean, the workload could stay minimal to protect him for next year when you need him. That could be true. I certainly think down the stretch. They have to get him playing time and seed for the future. They don't want to break the man, but they certainly want to get him ready for next year

as an NFL player. So to me, you've got Chuba who's been outstanding, the team likes him, but 74% of snaps, 82% of snaps, 84% of snaps, 79, like Chuba has been, you know, almost a bell cow here for Carolina. So his fantasy production has been good, he's been fine on a per touch basis, but I don't expect that to hold.

So if Jonathan Brooks is activated here in a couple hours, which I expect, then I'm looking to trade Chuba, because Chuba's been great, people are running back needy, and they might not be aware that- Oh, I don't think they're trading for Chuba. And they might not, but I would float it out there. I'd use him in a couple trade offers. I'd trade Brooks on the promise of the activation.

That's what I would do. I'd finally do that too. And what are the odds that he doesn't get activated today? Because there is a chance the team is- It's greater than zero. Yeah, the team could say, nah, let's just make sure. We've got Chuba. We've got Miles Sanders, and we're not winning.

We're not going to the playoffs. So let's just make sure you're OK next year. Yeah, I mean, Canales did say that there's a chance. But that quote, when you watch the whole press conference, it really felt like we're excited to get him back. We've got plans for him. And it's like, well, is there any chance he doesn't come back? And he's like, sure.

Yeah, there's a chance. What are the odds that we could extend this conversation on this show until that 4 PM Eastern? Oh, man, that's going to be a long time. If anybody can do it. My last thought is, holy crap, if he doesn't get activated and you spent a second round pick on a running back, to not play a year of a four-year contract is,

that's bad management. Yeah, I think that's bad management. Yeah, I think that's not what you would have expected to have happen. It could be the best decision for them now. I don't know, I don't know that. I wouldn't presume to know that. This question comes in from Instagram.

My league doesn't like to trade. What can I do to change that? Make trades. I saw you got a really good trade done yesterday, Jay. I did, so you swapped your ninth round pick or your sixth round pick. My sixth round pick for their ninth round pick. That seems like bad value.

Yeah. I saw that trade come through and I, I didn't know what happened. Yeah, so we had no other trade followed it when you reversed it Yeah, we he wanted to leave it there for a minute to have the league go wild about it before we edit on what happened It was it was a trade that we were going back and forth on for Baker For Baker Mayfield and a pick swap and then was it a lot of six nine? Yeah, and so the Baker just was forgotten to be added to the deal They immediately accepted it But yeah

We're getting old Mike you got to accept this you guys are just a circus act I mean this is happy to report. It's been mostly Andy this year this year, okay listen Listen Okay, it's happened to you. You have listen our league traded. Here's what's happened. Okay, it's happened twice. You have twice in our league traded. Here's what's happened, okay. Your fab for nothing. And a player for nothing. Listen, here's what has happened,

and this has never happened before. We've got doofuses in the league. I include myself in that category. I have put out publicly, because we did not have fab trading for years. We finally added fab trading. Sometimes, like Jason, you're like, hey, Anthony Richardson, available for fab.

They sent $2 fab, you sent Anthony Richardson. Swip swap, swap swap. I have been so over eager that sometimes I've been like, who's the player I was trying to give you guys, Josh? Who was the one that I said was available in trade for five bucks? Oh, it was Caleb Williams early in the year So I'm like, hey Caleb's available for fab

Instantly, I get an offer that to me look like to offer that look yet two offers and they're the same offer I thought they were five dollars fab for Caleb turns out two doofuses decided to send me Caleb and my fab for nothing. All you have to do is read. I'm too, I thought I got a cool trade. I was excited and I smacked. Bidding war as well between us. Wait, is that what happened to the Cowboys?

Oh, that's probably, they were excited. They didn't read it. They were just like, mingo, we've loved mingo. Yeah, yes. Mingo. Oh, that was a fourth? And they were like, wait, no, we, we thought you were giving us the fourth. Yeah, Mingo and a fourth. How did this turn into me?

You traded a six for a nine yesterday. It was just an accidental click. And also, for all the leagues out there, if you're in a good league, if people make accidents, undo it. That's just like... No, I am not Jerry Jones. Yeah, anyways, we've had some comedic mishaps. But to...

What do you do to make people trade? Because I've seen this so many times. Every year people are just, they hear us talk about trades on the show, they get jealous. They want their league to be active and vibrant. It can be extremely difficult to, if this is the establishment of the league,

to actually change, because it's a true culture change of a league. I've been in leagues like that for long running leagues where it was almost- Trades just don't happen? It was nearly impossible and people just don't respond to trade offers and the the best way to get it going is to have a hub for communication. I mean you you can use the we're on sleeper so you can use the sleeper chat room but it might take something more than that and I mean getting people's phone numbers like being able to actually text someone one-to-one instead of everything just going through the system have a a personal relationship with the other people in the league. But having said that,

the honest truth is it may not happen and you might need to find just a different league. I would say the two most true tips are tip one, make a great offer. Trade a little bit more. If you want a play, Andy's done this for years and he's talked about it as a tip. If you really believe in a guy and you want him, pay up for him. It's okay. Go get him. You're like, oh, people don't accept trades, but they're afraid to be wrong. Make sure they feel like they're right. That is not always bad management to go out and pay up, throw in an extra player or two. And then the other thing is, part and parcel of what Mike is saying, it's communication. But it

is really, really common. Like I go out and I'll offer a ton of trades. And you know what? People have busy lives. They never see them. Oh, you don't respond to a trade. Tip two is make sure they see the trade. Give them a text message, poke, say, hey, I sent a trade offer over something because as soon as you send something that is actually seen, they will respond nine out of 10 times with a rejection or a, oh, I'll look at it or something and it starts communication where now you can get working on it. And maybe if you're not finding another league, replace a couple managers that are inactive

because don't underestimate the power of one or two very trade-active managers. That's true, man. They do motivate trades for the entire league, and we've seen that time and time again. So we'll take a break. Some more questions after the break. All right, well, boy, here we are. Instagram question from Shump. Trade Travis ETN for Cortland Sutton, question mark? Fun question.

Andy? I mean, if you need a wide receiver, I'm fine with it. I would hate to do it, but that doesn't make it wrong. Cortland Sutton has had three straight top, or sorry, three out of four top 24 weeks. The targets are what make you excited for Sutton. It's not just the targets, it's that Bo Nix is. He's chucking it.

He's playing really good football and he's playing like fantasy friendly football. Like they're getting explosive plays. Like you can't pull up Cortland Sutton's game log and be like, oh, well it's only been this part of the season. The beginning, he was terrible. Yeah, he had Bo Nix who was a rookie quarterback who had never played.

Like this is the transformation of Bo Nix is getting better. He's getting more comfortable with Cortland Sutton. And Travis Etienne is, it's doodoo, baby. What are, just off the top of your head, without looking, maybe you're wrong, what do you interpret as some of the, or maybe the, like what's the hardest run defense? What are the best run defense?

Detroit. Detroit for sure, that comes to mind. Anyone else that just jumps off the page? Detroit's usually what I think of first, but when I'm thinking of other great defenses out there, very difficult to run on. Minnesota. Minnesota.

Yeah, Minnesota. Those are the two that come to mind for me. Travis Etienne's next matchups against Minnesota and then on the road in Detroit. This is all he might need to be on the road You need some cream get on him or other you're gonna doughnut You're coming off of three Rushing attempts and then you go and you play Minnesota Detroit by week now. I do I Genuinely do think there are bright days

ahead for Travis ETN this season but it's a month from now and and if you need wind you need a wider lever sure maybe maybe there's not when I say I think well is that's just a hopeful past catching is my hope there is with the absence of Kirk and the absence of other options that maybe. Just go get Rico Dowdle then. Oh gosh. You know. What a world man. What is the success of Rico Dowdle mean

for the future of this show? I think we're going under. And how many more chances that Mike's going to take on guys like this? Then you gotta take the chances man. That's how you win. I mean look, we can't say anything right now. I will say this. Then you gotta take the chances, man. That's how you win. I mean, look, we can't say anything right now. I will say this. You did your best analysis work preseason to identify situations where guys that were

lowly drafted running backs hit and are a top 20 running back. You identified bad situations that don't hit like the Raiders. You know, home run. And Zach Moss. But yes, the Bengals were one of the you pointed to. And whether it was Zach Moss or Chase Brown, you were saying, we don't necessarily know who it is, but you target that and that was right. You're just getting lucky on Dallas

because it's not a good offense. Hey, you're leaving out the Chargers. No, no, no. There was three teams that I wanted. That's right. And they're all hits right now. So that's that's that's good work Yes, guess it's good that we have a podcast that you can share that with the world It's just we we have to be around the Dowdling in between the shows

Yeah, it's it doesn't stop off the no the airwaves are not the only place he comes in the Dory Dowdels Uh-huh afternoon dowels Yeah, I mean this down on the street. No, you don't want that. No, you don't April dowels bring May shower I'm sorry YouTube question from techno. Yeah says what is everybody's favorite food on football Sunday? ice cream Question from techno. Yeah, he says what is everybody's favorite food on football Sunday? Ice cream You know, I have to go chipotle. Yeah, we're pretty chipotle heavy on Sunday on Sunday Specifically, yeah, why do we end up there? Is it just easy? I think it's easy and you can actually order healthy and it's delicious

Not a sponsor but yeah, not a sponsor. Till we get the gold card. Could be, please. They have a gold card, right? I've seen rumors. Please sponsor. Chipotle, if you're out there, Big Chipotle. We're tired of paying for it. Yeah, every single Sunday,

because we're in the studio. Is it called Big Chipotle? Yeah, that's who they are. But we're here watching the games in the studio because we've got the big nine TV set up. And pretty much every Sunday we're ordering Chipotle. And then if it goes poorly, you're right, Andy. We order ice cream.

Yeah, that's for the bad days. Also good days. Celebrational ice cream. Also, depressional ice cream. Pretty much just a normal day is the only day you don't eat ice cream. All right. Dad is going to do it for today's episode.

Starts the week in the matchups tomorrow when it will actually be football time. It's gonna be great. More matchups and a double wheel of shame on Friday unless I just dip out for that day. We'll see. But in the meantime, I'll let Mike get back to dattling anddling and we will catch you tomorrow. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on JoinTheFoot.com and follow us on Twitter at The FF Ballers.