Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Trending or Ending + Changing Offenses - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/19
Episode Date: March 19, 2026Fantasy Football show for Mar 19, 2026. Lots of teams with new offenses in 2026! Will Justin Herbert return to elite form for fantasy football? Can Jalen Hurts and the Eagles offense get back on tra...ck? Find out which new coordinators will have the biggest impact for fantasy football. Plus, Trending or Ending: will Jordan Love bounce back after two down seasons? Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hey, Foot Clan, do you hear the big news about Jalen Waddle being traded for like a one and a three and a four swap?
And you're going to hear so much more about it on Tuesday.
On Tuesday, because we just pre-recorded this episode right before the Jalen Wattle News broke.
So it won't be on today, but we will cover everything, including the clear, obvious way.
This is good for Troy Franklin on Tuesday.
Stay tuned.
To the Fantasy Footballers podcast.
with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Oh, welcome in.
The Fantasy Footballers podcast.
Jason Moore, Mike Wright.
I'm Andy Holloway.
We're back again.
Excited to have you with us as we get you ready for the 2026 fantasy football season,
which should be far away.
I mean, I think I plugged in an approximate draft date for our League of Record draft
a couple days ago.
It's like 176 days away now.
So right around the corner.
But, I mean, there's just too many steps along the way.
We're going to have an NFL draft here soon.
We still have more free agent signings.
The draft will be here very soon.
Is there one specific player situation team in the draft that you're just like,
I got to know what happens?
For me, it's Jonah Coleman because he is, he's a player that I like.
And if the NFL likes, then I'm in.
But I could see the NFL being like, you're, you know, you're going to drop to the fourth
round, maybe.
If the NFL doesn't like Jonah Coleman, does that mean it doesn't like you?
I don't think they know me.
Okay.
I think I'm safe either way.
You think you're safe?
I think I'm safe.
But yeah, that's just one of those players where if he's a second round pick,
awesome.
If he's a fourth round pick, awful.
I like Adam Randall.
Okay.
The converted wide receiver into running back who is...
Just your type.
Yeah, I mean, he's 6.3, like 2.30, and a super athlete.
And the fact that you're playing running back now, but you have trained as a wide receiver,
that's always interesting.
You and him matched on fantasy football tennis.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
I mean, it's very Antonio Gibson.
It's very David Johnson.
Johnson.
The second one was a good example.
I mean, Antonio Gibson for all the...
Dude, I literally, because I tweet...
He hates this so much.
I do. Because I got it again.
I know. I tweeted about Adam Randall and people are like,
oh, is this going to be another Antonio Gibson?
And I'm like, two top 12 fantasy seasons?
His rookie year, he was the running back 12.
His sophomore year was the running back 10.
You're like, oh, no.
What a horrifically bad career.
But to be fair to them, then he disappeared.
Yeah.
forever. Most guys don't up here.
So wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's more like the summary. Like if you were to find an
Antonio Gibson card in a collection and pull it out, your first thought is, man,
that guy, and then it's the following sentence. And I think 99.99% of people would look
at Antonio Gibson and say, oh man, that guy had a lot of potential. That's the outcome.
Because I think when he was having some success as a rookie and a sophomore, we still wanted more.
so it wasn't like we were like, yes, this is the, I'm just not to count it.
Not to say he didn't have successor in those years.
It's funny.
Remember he fumbled like five times?
Well, he had the good year.
He had a huge fumbling.
Wide receivers don't train on holding on to the balls.
It's like a third round.
I can always make Mike upset with that though.
Because it's a third round running back.
Your expectation should be zero seasons as a top 12 running back.
That should be what you would expect.
So if Adam Randall is a third round,
running back, which is what David Johnson was, which is what Gibson was a third, yeah.
Does that mean that this is going to work out again? And you just have to hope he's never
the running back 10 because that was like the demise of both of those guys. I mean, honestly,
because if you're talking rookie picks, that's the season, if Adam Randall goes in the third
round, he'll be, you know, he'll be in the second round of rookie picks. And if your second round
running back gives you two RB1 seasons, like that's a smash pick. I think. I think,
think with this year's running, if for some reason he is in the third round, meaning he's a day two
pitch. Yeah. I don't think he will be. I don't either, but if he does, I'll bet he sneaks into
the back of the first for a rookie dress. Yeah, maybe because of the class is so bad, maybe.
It'll be interesting. But there's going to be so many wide receivers. Like, first and second round
wide receivers should fill up the majority of your first round of rookie draft. We'll know soon.
Well, we got a lot to get into today. I'm going to jump into our quick question momentarily. I want to
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Let's jump right in. Trending or ending.
Trending or ending, Jordan Love will finish as the quarterback 15 or worse.
It is now a two-year trend for Jordan Love.
He had the spectacular debut as the starter for Green Bay in 2023.
Quarterback five on the year, the last two years, quarterback 15, quarterback 17.
he missed two games in each of the last two years.
He has lost Romeo Dobbs in the offseason, trending or ending?
Not just missing two games, this wasn't like, if Jordan Love played all 17, it would be great.
I mean, he was about three points per game fewer than the breakout campaign.
Yeah, both of the last two years.
So it's like you're at the point now of was that the outright?
Right.
That's the question.
I mean, that really is, is, was that year where he was the quarterback five and through 32 touchdowns?
Was that his outlier year?
Or the last two years with Josh Jacobs being in town, scoring so many rushing touchdowns?
I mean, when we watch Jordan Love, he looks like a really good quarterback.
I think he's great.
Personally, I think he's a great quarterback.
Personally, I felt like that year when he threw 32 touchdowns was not the norm.
like his norm, which is good.
I'm not, like, I think this is trending.
He will be outside the top 15 at quarterback, in my opinion.
That doesn't mean he's bad.
He's not a below average quarterback.
It's just he's not really an elite quarter.
I look back the last couple years of just what is like the average, you know, NFL team.
Like I looked at the team level so that injuries aren't skewing it.
How many passing touchdowns is the average team?
take out the leaders and take out the crappy teams.
What do they throw?
And it's usually about mid-20s, right?
24, 25 touchdowns.
And you look back and we're like, what a piece of garbage quarterback.
And Aikman never hit that number, right?
Some of the other greats.
Imagine 25 passing touchdowns.
What a bum.
Yeah.
And so you look and it's like, okay, well, he threw 23 last year, 25 the year before.
That's not bad.
That's good, but that's not ever going to be.
if you're throwing 23, 25 touchdowns,
you're not a top five quarterback
unless you are rushing for 10 touchdowns.
I think one of the things that makes it complicated about,
and I think trending, by the way,
I'm on the trending side as well.
I think...
Which, this is, I don't like the trending or ending.
I know, I don't either.
The trending is the negative here?
That's right.
Like ending would be like, oh, it's good.
It feels that way.
But we're saying that the bad trend is continuing.
Correct.
I think the challenge here is that you've lost Romeo Dobbs.
Whatever you think about Romeo Dobbs,
he's a solid maybe above average wide receiver that is now at the door.
Tucker Kraft is coming back from a major injury.
I'm looking at pass attempts before Josh Jacobs arrived.
34 a game for Jordan Love.
In the big season?
In the big season.
28 a game because he threw the ball 579 times in 2022.
You didn't have a weapon in the running game that was,
really a goal line weapon.
And so you look at, okay, how do you throw seven fewer touchdowns on average?
Well, Josh Jacobs is the answer to that question.
But yeah, Tucker Kraft coming back from injury,
you know, Matthew Golden's going to have his chance to make a mark,
and I'll probably have some big plays.
But I think more of the same for Green Bay,
they can be a very successful team if you throw us 25 touchdowns.
Yeah, their defense is really good, and that sucks.
I think it's always hard when there's a guy that you think if the situation allowed it
could be better?
Like, I think that's the way it feels with Jordan Love is like if you decided to let him throw
the ball 579 times, he would be a perennial top 5, six, seven quarterback.
That's just not the dynamic there in Green Bay right now.
Yeah.
You don't have, if they had added A.J. Brown, maybe we can have a conversation.
Jordan Love strikes me as a guy that before the career is over, you'll have one or two more
seasons where he's like, he goes Baker Mayfield of, right, two years ago.
It's just everything's on, you know, the luck is there.
The touchdown variance luck is there.
He's just, he's hitting on the big throws.
But I think that he, yeah, he's more of this like a high-end QB2.
Yeah, so are you in the same camp where you think he'll be outside that group?
Yeah.
Not a sneaky late round quarterback to draft?
No, I did.
No, I'd rather take a shot on like Malik Willis.
It's, it's so wild because you look at, I mean, I know he's the MVP now, 46 touchdowns.
It's just, like Matthews.
Stafford threw 20 last year. He threw 24 the year before. Right. Like played 15, 16 games,
20 and 24. Sometimes you have a special season. Maybe that was the first season for Jordan Love.
But streamer, yeah, he's a streaming quarterback candidate, one that I would play in a good matchup or if,
you know, if Josh Jacobs was hurt. Yeah, I was going to say if Josh Jacobs goes down, Jordan Love can do it.
I just don't need him to go out there and throw the ball 35 times.
Underdog ADP is QB17.
That feels right.
So there you go.
We're going to jump right into the main event.
Coaching Carousel.
Well, on Tuesday we went through all the head coaching changes
and the corresponding offensive coordinator changes on a number of teams.
There were 10 teams that changed head coaches.
Today we're going to take a further dive into teams that have changed just the offensive coordinator position.
And there is a coaching changes section in the ultimate draft kit that we dive into.
We talked about Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, Buffalo, Cleveland, Las Vegas, Miami, New York, Pittsburgh, Tennessee on Tuesday if you want to hear our fantasy implications of those moves.
A couple quick facts about offensive coordinators.
Kyle's always setting some of this stuff aside for us and the turnover in the NFL.
Only five of the current 32 offensive coordinators have been in that role with their team for two plus years.
I mean, if you're really good as an OC, like really good, you get a.
head coaching opportunity. Or you're bad and you get fired. Right. Yeah. So. Yeah, you don't
stick around and just be kind of okay. Yeah, like you don't have really long tenured OCs very often.
So it looks like the five that have been around, West Phillips with Kevin O'Connell, but O'Connell's like,
like he's not a, O'Connell's really the engine there, right? Yeah. Yeah. This is Mike's point that he
brings up all the time, which is if you have a defensive head coach and your offense is great,
you're losing your offensive coordinator. If you want to keep your offensive coordinator,
then have them go to an offensive head coach not named Sean McVeigh.
Well, and I was going to say, we'll talk about the McVeigh situation because he's always got
turnover at OC, but he's calling plays and so involved. He's kind of, he's now taking like a
multi-pronged approach to offensive assistance.
Yeah, the Rams are
Just like everyone wants the springboard
McVeigh just wants to
McVeigh wants every coach in the league
to just be under his coaching tree
Him versus Shanahan
They're just trying to spread their seed
That's all they're doing
They want lots of coach babies out there
Yeah, yeah that's what they're doing
That's the old phrase
That is how we would put it
That's how they're doing it
Jason would
Johnny Appleseed.
Throwing them everywhere.
Okay. Yeah.
So there are 11 new offensive coordinators we're going to highlight today.
Eight of the 11 will be play callers for their team.
And we'll just jump in.
We'll do it alphabetical order here.
Starting with the Bears, they know, I mean, we know Ben Johnson calls the plays there.
Declan Doyle, 30 years old, right?
Moving on.
Press Taylor, now the offensive coordinator for the Bears.
younger brother of Cincinnati head coach Zach Taylor.
Oh, okay.
I guess I can kind of see that.
Because of the names?
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
The names.
They're very similar.
No, I was looking at a picture of them.
But it looks like they could be brothers.
It looks like they could be brothers.
Looks like they could be brothers.
But this is one where you don't really feel instability.
Nope.
In fact, the Chicago offensive situation is just going to be really, really interesting because, like, Jason, I don't think you were a part of this conversation.
Might have been the footcast.
Someone brought up, like, why are you so in on Luther Burden?
Why isn't Adunzee a sleeper?
We kind of talked through it.
I think Adunze is a huge sleeper.
Like, he's definitely a player that I'm paying attention to.
The first 13 weeks of the season, he had a 22% target share on that team last year.
Colson Loveland had been banged up, not a part of the offense as much.
Same with Luther Burden.
weeks 14 through 18
it completely changed
Adunzei was hurt he missed time
Colson Loveland grabbed a strangle hold
Luther Burden started to establish
and then in the playoffs it was all Loveland
right 28% target share for him
adunzee down to 13%
but the departure of DJ more in general
like I think the bears are just one of the
highlight teams for the entire
off season that you can be excited about
what they started to form
if Caleb Williams can start to throw the ball
more accurately you got what you have
five skill position players that you will want to draft.
I think Loveland is the one that I'm going after.
But then it's like even though I prefer burden over Roma Dunzee.
There's going to be drafts where Roma Dunzee lines up where this is a value.
I want to take a shot at the Chicago offense.
Then DeAndre Swift, Kyle Minan guy, do do-do do-do.
All of these players are going to be drafted.
And this is what happens when you give us the just,
something glorious like Ben Johnson getting an offense.
Yeah, hopefully.
But I will say this.
If Caleb Williams doesn't break the record for passing yardage for the Chicago
Bears, you're going to be disappointed.
Oh, of course.
It's just a-
Well, you won't be happy with all of them.
That's what I mean.
Either one person breaks up.
Of course.
But what I worry is if he throws-
You want tickets into that show, though.
Yeah, I'm just saying the show might not be as big as we think.
If he throws for 3,900 passing yards,
okay
like everyone's going to have
a stretch of games that are good
so that's my only worry with the Bears
you've got to have them throw for 4,300
well I mean
what was it Jordan Love the last two years
was the 3,300
that was the crazy number there
you talk about the offensive pieces
in Green Bay as well
but I get what you're saying
I think that this is one of the situations
they lost a star center
I'm not gonna
we can't forget about that
their offensive line was so good last year
third
according to PFF.
They've got to fix the center position.
That's a bummer.
But Ben Johnson is the offensive mastermind here.
It's not going to be Press Taylor.
Declan Doyle benefited from being under Ben Johnson
and getting a job, another job.
But Press Taylor is just stepping into kind of literally assist,
not call plays, right?
Yeah.
All right, let me take a quick break for us,
and then we'll come back and talk about the other 10.
the Denver Broncos
Okay
I
This one's weird
I love talking about the Denver Broncos
Because you hate
I find Sean Payton to be
Simultaneously
a good coach
And just plain annoying
Just kind of
I love
How you rant on him
Just like a dude
That's got to be talked about a lot
That's got to be angry all the time
I mean you even saw it
When he got rid of his offense coordinator
It was like, I can't remember the exact quote, Kyle.
Maybe you can find it.
It was something to the extent of like, he's like, yeah, Sean was just in one of his moods.
That's what I feel all the time.
I mean, that was the quote.
It was like, he's in one of his moods.
He was going to, you know, he was going to be mad no matter what.
It's funny because I can completely see your perspective.
And I don't think you're wrong.
And yet I don't despise Sean Payton.
I like him.
I like his personality.
If he was my head coach of the, you know,
my team if I had a team.
Right. Yes.
You know, I would, I would like that he is that head coach, and I would enjoy, I do enjoy
his press conferences. I like watching him talk. I like how he explains stuff.
Also, it is clear as day that Sean Payton wants you to think very highly of Sean Payton.
I mean to a very unhealthy degree. That's very clear and obvious.
Yeah. He has the Bounty Gate stuff trailing him to.
He likes his own brand.
He's a fart sniffer.
He smells his own farting.
Yeah.
And he's like, hey.
Which is a little bit, it's a funny transition into the conversation about the hire because Davis Webb is now the offensive coordinator.
Joe Lombardi, the quote was, Sean Peyton was in one of those moods where he felt like some changes needed to be made.
So I've been around him long enough to kind of read the tea leaves.
Davis Webb's taking over, but then the funny part is it's like, Sean Payton didn't put.
put his foot down and say, well, I'm calling plays anyway.
He basically said, you know, I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't feel like it would help
our team.
I'll still be involved, but he said he's going to hand over a play calling to Davis Webb.
And to be honest with you, the offense is what was inconsistent and struggled last year.
Now, I can't blame Sean Payton for Cortland Sutton's drops.
I can't blame him for the random errant passes by Bo Nix or the fact that Bo Nix was like so hot and cold.
I will always remember the Raider game where they just,
looks so incompetent and won whatever 1310 or 107 on Thursday night football and we were like
what is this but I I find myself slightly more encouraged by a change happening I do too
Davis Webb got head coaching opportunities like interviews around the league and then they and then
Peyton retained him he's you know people believe that Davis Webb is an extremely talented
offensive mind so to give away play calling duties when you are
Sean Payton,
it bodes well for me
to believe in Davis Webb. And if you didn't
listen to our True Series episodes,
Bo Nix just for example, the last two years is two years
starting, 38% bus games,
35% bust games.
13% great games.
That would be, I think our threshold is what, 25
or above for quarterbacks?
Some are around there. And only 12% this year.
So consistency has been a problem. He's been outside the top
10 in consistency, despite finishing
in the top 10 in terms of
total fantasy points. And maybe you could see
you know, it seems clear from their comments
and what they're doing,
they would like to strengthen the running back room.
They brought back Jillio McLaughlin,
just to be a thorn in the side of everybody else.
We'll see what the draft holds,
but I find myself slightly more encouraged
that a change is happening.
I can agree.
Mike, talk to me about your favorite
offensive coordinator of all time.
The Detroit Lions,
they have brought in,
they finished nine and eight,
they did not make the playoffs,
they were fourth and points per game.
offense was pretty good numbers wise defense struggled injuries 22nd in points per game
john morton is out he had lost play calling duties to dan campbell partway through the year
and the blobfish has arrived drew petzing the new offensive coordinator for the
Detroit lions it feels so much worse it does to call him the block he's not a cardinal
when he's not hurting us and our fandom now it just feels like kind of cruel kind of a cruel
insult. Right. But once you're named
is like
John your birth certificate. Right.
Just. Mr.
Bob, maybe Mr. Lobfish? Oh, that's a
nicer. That's Mr. Blobfish to you.
How did things, how did they watch
Arizona and they're like, mm-hmm. I actually
understand this. I think it's going to be totally fine. I do.
I do. I think it's going to work out really well. And this is
as someone who's, but as in, you think that
Drew coming in makes things better.
over Morton.
Not than Ben Johnson, but then John Martin.
Correct.
It's like, I think that the Lions
without an O.C.
It's just Dan Campbell.
I think they will have great success on offense.
I do too.
I think if they didn't have Drew Petsing,
they wouldn't be bad.
Drew Petsing coming in.
He's got some good concepts in the running game.
He does.
He does.
It worked in Arizona.
James Connor was great.
They've got Gibbs and they've got a better offensive line there.
than what the Cardinals had.
When they had a quarterback that could stand in the pocket
and Jacoby Brissette was allowed to throw the ball.
Yeah, they were a good offense.
They were a good offense.
Kyler did not fit the petzing scheme at all,
and petting couldn't seemingly adapt to Kyler.
But, you know, that's the tiny, cowardly mobile quarterback,
which is the exact opposite of Jared Gough,
the immobile, pretty brave.
He'll stand in there and take a hit.
It's a tough division.
It's going to be a dog fight in that division,
but I kind of lean on Jason's side.
I think for what Detroit wants to do on offense,
he's going to fit in quite well.
Do you see any shake-ups happening?
By the way, their schedule is going to be delicious this year
because they face a fourth-place schedule
despite going nine and eight because of that division.
So they get to play against the Giants, the Titans,
and the Cardinals.
Oh, the return of the blob fans.
that'll be fun.
Do you see anything being shaken up of Amundra, Williams,
or Jameson Williams, and Gibbs?
Or just kind of status quo?
I do think Dan Campbell is still going to have a pretty heavy influence on the type of
offense they run.
But Jason, I never got your response.
Neither of us did to the incredibly big signing of Isaiah Pacheco.
Look, they're going to use him enough behind a good.
office of line to have fantasy relevance, they will deploy Gibbs so much more than they did last year.
I think it is, it makes Pacheco relevant because he's on the Lions.
I think Pacheco is the test for Drew. That like, if Drew keeps putting Pacheco out, that's when
Dan will just, he'll take all the play calling from him.
Should Gibbs be, with the signing, I know we were waiting on a backup slash committee back,
is Gibbs number one for you now? Right now?
No, it could have flipped before Alger left, you know, because it was like, oh, it was Beijon.
And then once David Montgomery got out of town, it's like, okay, maybe Gibbs should be the number one.
But then Alger got out of town.
It's like, all right, I'm back.
Okay.
Is he number two?
Yeah, I think right now it would probably go Beijon Gibbs, one, two.
The Kansas City Chiefs have brought an old friend back to stand next to the guy who actually calls the place.
Andy Reed.
He's a friendly guy.
When you're friends with Andy Reid, you're in.
You are in.
Nothing, if not loyal.
Right.
Eric B. Enemy is the new offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.
He is back.
He played a huge role in their championships of years gone by.
But Matt Nagy's departing.
I don't think we gave Matt Nagy a lot of the credit, right?
It's in Andy Reed offense.
Oh, I give him none.
I mean, from the time that Eric Bienomi left, it did not go well.
There was the Washington commander's stint.
There was a UCLA stint.
Then he got back into the NFL with the Bears as a running backs coach.
But like there was head coaching talk about BNMie back in 2020.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There was.
And then he almost flamed out of the league.
He was, Bienami was the O.C from 2018 to 2000.
22. I will read you
the fantasy finishes of
2018. Okay. Also known as Patrick Mahomes
first year. QB1
8441
and the QB8 that year was
at 20 and a half points per
game. And then the next three years
it has been 17.5, 17.6.
He did, Mahomes was at 20.3
if you remember because the dude was
running so much. So he was
you know, getting that cheat code for fantasy football.
But it's like all the, the good Mahomes years were not naggy.
Yeah, that's true.
That is a fact.
Also a fact three of those four years.
The wide receiver one, the wide receiver two, and the wide receiver six were Tyree Kill.
Yeah.
So it's like, it's one of those.
In Kelsey's Peak.
Yeah.
And a running game for some of it.
Kansas City had four offensive plays of 20 plus yards that resulted in a touchdown last year.
That was the fewest in the NFL.
That's not what you think of.
That's not acceptable.
How do we not get mad at Reed?
Is Reid just immune from like people being, like we just blame the personnel?
I don't think I blame just the personnel.
I think it's the trend of how you deploy a defense against this team that was beating you over the top over and over and over.
They go to, you know, the shell defense, the two high safeties.
Then they take what the defense gives them.
And it's worked for most of the last years.
Now, this past year, injuries got in the way they didn't get in the playoffs.
Then they did the right thing and shut things down towards the end of the year.
They've got the best draft capital coming into this season that they've had pretty much in the Mahomes era.
So I think it's going to get a little bit fixed.
But the offensive skill positions are still a big question mark.
Kelsey's older.
They don't have a successful downfield threat.
Even after re-signing Thornton, huh?
Yeah, I mean, Thornton is MBS.
They don't have a Tyree.
I'm saying I'm sarcasm.
Mahomes is the injury.
We have to overcome all of that.
But I'm more hopeful now that we're...
Well, it's good for the running game.
We're done with the budget magician.
I think it's good for the running game.
I think that's the one area where BN and me has had consistent presence,
both on Kansas City and elsewhere.
So to me, if they can establish it, which is the first agenda that they had...
Oh, it will be established.
Then that seems kind of interesting to me.
The Chargers. This is a fun one to talk about.
Mike McDaniel replacing Greg Roman. I'm not sure you could have more opposite
personalities ages.
11 and 6 last year, second in the AFC West.
Mike McDaniel is 43, but he really seems 25.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a young soul. He takes a BMX bike to work.
And he looks like he's still growing, you know. So it's like, he's just a kid having fun out there.
It is. The dynamic of him and Harbaal together is spectacular.
But I think we all really respected.
I respected how the dolphins continued to play hard for him,
despite the season going to crap and obviously eventually letting Tua completely go.
Players have always loved him.
You know, we've talked to Juice, a big fan of the show,
who worked with Mike McDaniel when he was an OC back in San Francisco.
And everybody loves Mike McDaniel, thinks he's really smart.
The fact that he doesn't have to work.
wear the head coaching helmet and deal with all the press and all, you know, let him just go
be the- He would fall over. He's a little guy. Be the little scientist.
Yeah.
Creating cool plays.
Yeah, they were 24th in points per game last year.
Herbert was the first quarterback since 2018 to lead the league in percentage of dropbacks
pressured and still make the playoffs.
So the Herbert defenders.
I will not ever stop defending Herbert.
It's hard after what he did in the playoffs.
to not say uh
it was that was real bad
um
the charges are very exciting
the offensive line
McDaniel there the offensive line is getting
massively improved because
they already had two great tackles
both of who got injured
through the year and they lost both of them
they're getting them back yes later and alt
and then they just went and got a great
center so now it's like okay so your center
and your edges are elite
you go from terrible
fullback and an elite
blocking tight in in Charlie Kohler.
I mean, I'm already
pre-in-love with the Chargers offense.
And a guard and another tackle.
You're pre-in-love? Yeah.
Okay.
No, I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic.
No question.
And McDaniel
should be able to put the
players in the best position to succeed. I think that's been the thing
that's been difficult sometimes.
Like, huge, he has a role to play. He's not probably
a superstar. Ladd McConkey,
you know, we had the amazing rookie year.
It was kind of weird last year.
You know, can he reemerge under Mike McDaniel?
You'd think so, especially with Keenan Allen, probably not back, but who knows if he's back?
Because he's Keenan Allen.
Yeah, it'll be really interesting.
I want the news on whether Keenan Allen's back, but I feel like I won't know if Keenan Allen is back until kickoff.
You know, like, he's coming out of the tunnel?
Yeah, it's just like, hey, we signed Keenan out.
Yeah, you got me again.
He's going to be so late.
on the way out of the tunnel.
All right.
Another, we alluded to it, the Rams, new offensive coordinator.
LaFleur is gone in Arizona as the head coach.
Nate, Sheelhaus is replacing Mike LaFleur,
but they also signed Cliff Kingsbury to be an offensive assistant head coach.
If you read about what they're talking about the utilization,
it's going to be more Sheel House with, like,
Cliff's not going to be taking over an officer coordinator role,
but he is going to be a game planning play design assistant.
McVeigh, we already know, is calling the game.
It's just another good offensive mind to have a round for McVe.
I don't think we ever look.
Every year is like, okay, so who's the OC for the Rams?
And it doesn't really matter.
We're hoping they're smart.
They usually are.
And then they can go become a head coach after they get spritz with the McVeigh sent.
And then I went smell.
Yeah, I heard it.
The smint.
But yeah, I
honestly,
having more good
offensive minds there cannot
hurt, especially when you have
such a mastermind of running
the team in McVeigh. I don't
worry about, oh, well,
we'll heads butt, what if they've got different
game plan ideas? Like, McVeigh is in
charge, and they know that. So
this is just going to be a great offense. I can't believe
they have the Falcons pick at 13.
I mean, they're a really, really good team.
I don't know what the current odds are to win the Super Bowl,
but if the Rams aren't like second or third or maybe first,
I'd be shocked.
I know they're the favorites to win the division,
even though Seattle obviously won it last year and won the Super Bowl.
I think it's very close between Rams and Seattle last I saw.
To speak of an offense with the most opposite perspective possible,
the Jets have hired
Frank Reich.
Huh?
Huh? I am
seeing right now. Is this a big
joke? This Jets thing?
Frank Reich. Who do you want? I want Gino.
The Jets are very
unserious.
I
feel
bad for very few
fan bases more than our own.
But the Jets certainly qualify.
I don't know how you can stick with that team.
Frank Reich will be, I presume, the interim head coach by years end.
They're bringing in someone at OC who has been a head coach in the past.
I also presume he will not be the taking over the team next year.
No, no.
Frank Reich will not make it through the season.
Oh, that's the other.
He might.
Well, no, Andy's bringing up a good point.
because we know Aaron Glenn will
Oh, okay.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like,
he's got his samurai sword out.
He's ready to get to work.
Like,
you will not be the interim.
I mean,
not allow it.
He's already played the half season situation before, right?
In Carolina.
Well,
yeah,
Reich was.
He's,
he's not unpacking it all of his belongings.
It's,
I think it's passed him by.
I think that's what we saw very obvious.
I mean,
this is going to be a disaster.
The Jets represent the
biggest challenge for the Cardinals
getting this number one pick.
Yeah, agreed.
Man.
It's a bummer.
I'm sorry, Jets fans.
And fantasy players.
You know it. We know it.
I'm sorry to Brie's Hall.
You have two elite players
at their position
and when you go to draft them.
Jim Smith and Breeze Hall.
When you go to draft those guys,
it's going to be difficult and it's going to...
Yeah, because you're going to have to talk about Frank Reich being your officer coordinator
and Aaron Glenn still being the head coach
and Gino Smith being the quarterback, if not him, Justin Fields.
It's going to be a bunch of stuff like that all offseason long.
It's Andy's Thing to Remember from the Things to Remember episode.
Yeah, bad teams ruin good players.
There you go.
I'm sorry, guys.
I'm sorry.
That's our analysis on Frank Reich.
Oh, yeah.
caller.
We should have,
someone's got to have
odds of like
who gets fired first,
Reich or
Aaron Glenn?
Yeah.
I think,
I do,
I do think Frank
will be the interim head coach
that might be the case.
That might be the case.
We'll take a break.
We'll be right back.
Well,
it's time to talk about Jason's favorite
player of all time.
Sean Mannion,
taking over as the offensive coordinator
for your Philadelphia Eagles.
My dude.
Sean Mannion.
My boy,
Sean Manion.
or Jason's boy, John, maybe.
Thank you.
Okay.
Well, Kevin Petulah wasn't getting it done.
We know that.
And it seemed like not a lot of people wanted this job.
No, no, because they, I don't know, there's just a bad vibe right now with the Philadelphia offense.
If Aaron, or sorry, if A.J. Brown is traded.
Right now, Goddard is not resigned as of this recording, right?
Correct.
And as of this recording, A.J. Brown is not traded.
Correct. But, you know, Sequin Barclay, last year it was a big difference.
Not getting younger. Question marks around Jalen Hertz's abilities to take the team as far as they'd like them to.
Last year, they were 19th in points per game. The year before they were seventh under Kellanmore, the championship year.
They were 24th in yards per game, the year before they were eighth.
They were 11th in Russia attempts per game. They were number one the year before.
That's correlated to success and leading games. And then turnovers per game, that number still.
good. So they didn't turn the ball over a 10.
But I feel like the OC for Philly, your biggest job is you are a human shield for
Nick Sirian. That's why that's why people did not want.
Like that's your job is. Oh, that's why they don't want the job.
Is you show up and then if things don't go well for the team, you get to take all the blame.
But at the same time, there is the opportunity that if things go really well for the team.
It's possible that you can leave the team.
in a good manner like Kellen Moore did.
That's true.
I mean, they, well, Super Bowl will do that.
This is still a talented enough roster both sides of the ball to win a Super Bowl.
Well, yeah, because the defensive side is so good, your task as an offensive play caller is to just be competent.
You don't actually have to be a top five offense.
Just getting the top half.
Now, Seekwon last year, and this is a concern for this team.
And I don't know if it translates, say, Tank Biggsby getting opportunities or what.
But among 55 qualified running backs with 80 plus rush attempts,
he was 48th in percentage of runs stuffed at the line of scrimmage,
48th in rush success rate, 40 second and yards after contact per attempt.
That doesn't seem great.
Sending the tank.
Hopefully that is, you know, hopefully it's an outlier, but.
Yeah, Lane Johnson missed a lot of time.
Yeah, but when running backs, it.
How often do they bounce back from this?
When it's gone, it's gone.
And it vanishes seemingly overnight.
And it does all of our heroes that they play long enough.
It just disappears.
And then you, they still have like multiple years left in the league where you're hoping.
Yeah, we're kind of all right.
You're like, yeah, do you remember how good Barclay was?
It's going to be really hard.
It's going to do it again.
It's going to be hard not to drop some where he drops.
That'll be the hardest challenge with Saquo and Barclay.
Because you could easily talk yourself into the offensive line improving and the team improving.
Lane Johnson, you look at the splits with him and without him as a team, wins, losses, points, everything.
He's one of the best tackles in the league, and it shows.
So having him back and healthy, you would imagine, hey, maybe the run game will work.
Maybe everything will open up and be better.
And you're not drafting Saquan number one like you were last year.
Right.
So Jason, very, very early, just off the top of your head.
Ken Bone Walker or Saquan Barkley.
Ken Bone Walker, all right.
Seattle.
Goodbye, Clint.
Kubiak, you just earned yourself a head coaching job.
Also, before we move on, I just was, since we're talking about these teams and we were saying Super Bowl odds, looks like the Eagles are the seventh highest Super Bowl odds.
The Rams are, in fact, the favorites.
Oh.
And Seahawks are second.
There you go.
14 and 3 first in the NFC West.
Clint Kubiak is now the head coach of the Raiders, and Brian Fleury is taking over.
Part-time Viking, full-time offensive coordinator.
he's got a Luke
by this by look at this
picture here 45 years old
was with the dolphins and then
was with the 49ers
he was with Leif Erickson
before that though
Leaf Erickson
yeah is that a Viking
yeah okay
I'm sorry
that's your that's your heritage
Jason didn't know us talking about
guys it's it's
Are you upset back there Papa Josh
you know what he's talking about?
No I got it
that's because you look like
a Viking yourself. Thank you.
That is actually the nicest thing you've ever said to Josh.
He took it as a hardcore compliment.
And you were probably around when they were...
Is that not just an objective compliment if you're...
Like the look of a Viking?
I don't know. I mean, depends if you're a man or a woman.
Okay.
That's fair. Yeah.
I think most men would take it as a compliment.
Yeah, I mean, you know, big and strong.
If I told you, like, you looked like you're in a biker gang, would you take that a compliment?
No, I wouldn't.
Pretty similar.
I think that it's a similar.
Yeah, I think the Vikings translated straight into biker gang.
Yeah, exactly.
They retired from Vikings and then they got a motorcycle.
Like, I'm old.
I'm going to start a biker gang.
That's how I see them now, yeah.
Oh, they're not all old, man.
Riding their land boats.
Exactly. The water's too tough on my tummy now. Give me flat ground.
They're land boats. The wooden motorcycles. Those are the ones the Vikings ride.
Lee Perkinson has a day? October 9th.
Leaf Erickson Day.
So this is a real person.
Yes. Well, you said it's from a book. Genuinely.
Yes, a history book, Jason.
I wish I could leave you alone. But I thought he was talking about some actor that played a
or something.
So I am out of the
history books.
When you go to the library,
there's nonfiction books
and fiction books.
Oh, you're allowed to go?
He's like a very famous
I'm not allowed.
You can go into the nonfiction section?
You're allowed.
Huh.
Hmm.
There's no bees.
Do they have nonfiction?
Do they have nonfiction in
audible?
Of course.
Okay.
Well, that's news to me.
Expectations for this.
Seattle offense. Losing Kubiak, you have to say, is a big blow, right? I mean, you were,
and you lost Ken Walker. So they got to re- And Charbonnet. They got to re-focused the running game.
But you got J.S.N, right? You got Sam Darnold. They really have to pick up the pieces and
figure some things out here. They paid Rashid Shaheed. We'll see if Barner, Arroyo maybe breaks out a little
bit in year two. Tori Horton will come back from injury.
You know,
you expect them to be a very good team because their defense is very good.
They were number two in points per game. I don't know if we see
that kind of year again, right? A couple years ago, it was like
this was the story with the Lions, right?
It was like they were that good on offense. Can you repeat that?
But top five, top 10 offense?
Very difficult. That's what you're aiming for.
Do you have confidence that Flurry will get the job done?
No.
I mean, you've got the same quarterback.
You've got a great wide receiver.
They're coming off of the Super Bowl.
Great.
Can they be just as good as they were last year?
Yeah.
But am I confident in that when you lose your best running back,
your entire running back core to start the year?
And the guy who is so good at manufacturer, you know,
the Kubiak system, that run scheme worked really well.
now he has left to become a head coach.
We just talked about the Eagles, right?
The Eagles went to a Super Bowl,
and they had Kellynne Moore,
and he went and took a head coaching job,
and they still were a good team.
They still had the same offensive pieces.
But they didn't have Kellyn Moore,
and the scheme wasn't as good,
and then that guy got fired the next year,
and people were upset.
I could see that happening for the Seahawks
if Kubiak was really part of the magic sauce
of making this offense work.
extremely run heavy. They were, they were, when they threw, they were incredibly successful,
especially going down the, I mean, Sam Donald to JSN down the field was truly magic last year.
It seemed like every time he's going to throw it 20 air yards, JSN will be wide open.
But that might be because of how run heavy they were.
Right. That's what I'm saying of. They, with no Walker and you, I can't imagine that charges there
at the beginning of the year. How do you maintain that? If that's what, if that's, if that's,
That's what the team wants to be, which, I mean, that you would think so as you had what Ryan Grubb two years ago gets fired after a great season, a successful season in terms of your record, because we didn't like how the direction of the offense.
We want to run more. So we bring in Kubiak. If you don't have your two top running backs, how do you do that?
I think they will make a splash in the draft.
I think it's very likely that they will, that running back.
I think that was part of the decision.
Yeah, could be.
You want to pay Ken Walker, big running back money?
It's just, it's a really difficult year to make a splash.
But they got the perfect pick to do it.
Last pick of the first round.
Yeah, I mean, but the issue is, I mean, obviously, Jeremiah Love will be long gone by then.
The splash doesn't have to be a top five pick.
I'm just saying, like, one of the top two or three running backs on the board.
they could easily drop the second running back off the board.
Yeah.
That's all I mean.
With their second pick.
Yeah.
I mean, you got.
I don't know how much the NFL is going to love this crop.
Exactly.
Tampa Bay.
Every year.
Always.
Josh Gazard.
Is Baker Mayfield the quarterback?
That means new OC.
Always.
I mean,
Zach Robinson,
no.
Do he still like,
does he still have enough of the whiff of McVeigh on him?
uh it's starting to wear off i think he could be
tracked by a bloodhound
for sure that was searching for yeah there's
there's enough there's enough if robinson was lost in the woods
and you gave him a mcvay hanky
thinking they could track him down there's enough
hanky uh the buccaneer started six and two after the buy
they went two and seven it was it was sad it was a sad
MVP for for baker as it was for abuka as it was for i mean evans
is gone now. I think the clock is running out on Todd Bowles. This is another situation that I can see.
Todd Bulls is on the hot seat. You know, it's like Frank Reich versus Aaron Glenn leaving.
I think if this team started slow, you could have Zach Robinson as your interim head coach.
Absolutely. So ultimately, we've come to expect changes in the offensive coordinator position for fantasy purposes.
You know, I certainly am not, I don't think that Zach Robinson makes me feel way better. I don't think he makes me feel way worse about.
the situation. I like that Evans is out of the way for fantasy purposes for the wide receiver
room for Kate Otten. I think Baker has gotten used to getting it done with different
coordinators, but I don't have like great, I don't think this is a major move. I like that it's
an experienced play caller, someone that comes in and, you know, he's not trying to figure this out.
We didn't know how the grizzler would do. Sometimes you are able to,
be Liam Cohen where
you know you get that first shot and you prove
yourself and sometimes you get that first shot and you're like
you are found unworthy
it's nice to have someone come in
and you're gone Grizzler. We know you're not bad
Zach Robinson is not bad. My code's not working. I can't get back
in the building. Someone had to
someone had to fall in the sword for bowls
not to leave. That's the truth of
that situation. It's either going to be balls
out the door or somebody who's going to have to get the
it's your fault, not mine. It's not me.
I'm not leaving. Yeah.
So, you know, I'm going to be mildly interested in the, in the Buccaneers.
I'm very excited to see where, with Mike Evans leaving, where a big boo is drafted will be fascinating.
Emika, a big boo.
I'm guessing that if you look at where he's going on underdog right now, it's not where he's going to land come August.
Well, we should all guess.
Kyle can tell us, but we should guess where we think he's going in underdog like right now.
Like now?
Yeah.
I am going to guess he is going at, I have my guess.
I've got mine.
Wide receiver number?
Wide receiver number.
Yeah, I've got mine.
I will guess wide receiver 22.
I had 23.
I had 26.
Kyle?
He's 21.
I think it will rise.
I do too.
Yes, I do.
Sir.
I love the cadence.
It was really eager.
Yeah.
I think it will rise.
I do, too.
I think that there could be some definite reasons for optimism there as a go-to.
Because you go into next year, I mean, Godwin.
Godwin is really reliable, but not explosive anymore, in my opinion.
So then you're looking at Abuca.
Can he take the mantle there?
And he's a good receiver.
You don't do what you did in the first seven weeks, eight weeks, if you're not.
So we'll see.
Washington.
Boy, the wheels fell off last year.
Everything went wrong.
And then they lost Cliff Kingsbury now.
He was a revelation for Jayton Daniels as a rookie.
David Blow.
Blow, Blow, Blow, Blow, Blow.
Taken over.
David Blow.
The defense was bad, guys.
The backwards hat Dan, I mean,
he's kind of like Doug Peterson.
It really works in the beginning.
That's how I feel about...
We have the numbers, Andy.
I don't know if you saw them.
Okay, go ahead.
So in 2024,
head coach Dan Campbell went 10 and 4 in the regular season with Dan Campbell.
I'm sorry.
Dan Quinn went 10 and 4 in games he wore a backwards hat.
Oh, we have backwards hat number.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, this is Kyle gives us the stuff.
Now, just, and something to note in that year, 2 and 0 with a beanie on.
Just a side factor.
Undefeated.
2025, it flipped.
Head coach, backwards hat games, 3 and 12.
2 and 0 with a beanie.
Oh, undefeated.
So he hasn't lost with the beanie in two years?
Correct.
And he looks better.
What is the...
How old is he?
Get these numbers to Quinn.
Because we've done some math on like when you should be wearing a backwards
head. Don't you...
Well, we don't. That's...
Colin Coward?
Yes.
Well, we can lay claim to the head coaching.
I mean, he can judge the quarterbacks with backwards hats.
We can judge head coaches.
Here's what I think.
Head coach.
I think if you win a bunch of games, you can do whatever you want.
And I think if you don't, you look dumb and stupid.
Like that haircut for Matt LaFleur?
It's going to look fine if he's a 12-win coach.
Yeah, and if you look like that.
I'd get the clippers ready.
I'd get the clippers ready.
We like bad defenses for offenses to have potential.
Jayden Daniels didn't get to play much last year.
Three games with McLaurin.
He only started seven total.
We know the offense is going to look very different.
David Blah, had good comments about McLaren, too.
because a lot has been made about
the head coach and Cliff Kingsbury
arguing about what the offense should be.
Cliff is a very, it's a college offense
where it's everything is shotgun.
And Dan Quinn wants people,
he wants his quarterback under center more.
He wants to utilize that to a great effect for the run game.
And so I would expect that that will happen a lot.
Now, what will Jaden Daniels success be in that type of offense?
Because it's very different being the shotgun-only quarterback
versus the under center.
I mean, I think Jaden's good, so he'll be able to adapt to it.
But it will be something to pay attention to, especially if he struggles early.
David Blas came out and said he wants to run the office through Terry McLaurin
and get him 10-plus targets a game.
That was one of the things that he said.
He said that's going to be part of the goal of the offense,
which you like to hear for fantasy.
You do.
Mike, you seem to be.
It's the 10 targets.
Skepticism?
How many times are you throwing the ball?
11.
I mean, are you throwing the ball
28 times?
And you're giving McLaurin 10 targets every week?
It's just untenable.
Okay.
It's math.
I don't know how untenable it is with their current depth chart.
Because they don't have enough.
Who are you throwing the ball to here?
Yeah, name somebody.
Chig Oconquo.
there you go.
Yeah.
There's three.
You didn't get to hear this guy lose.
Luce has been Senate love and Chick-a-Conquo.
Do you think he'll be a pretty good asset for fantasy?
Because Zachertz was a very good asset for Jaden Daniel.
Zachers is coming off major injury.
And that was the limited version of Zachard.
Yeah.
It wasn't young, healthy Okonkwo.
No, no chance he makes a huge impact for fantasy.
Okay.
You're out.
Chick is fine.
but there's like I said on the things remember episode they're all they're all fine they all suck
other than the complete outliers at tight end sure but it's just you do think he could have an
outlier year no no I think he'll be even if he's a you know a top 12 tight end it'll be irrelevant
I don't think he is as good as Zach Ertz I know Zach Ertz isn't as athletic as a Conquo
but there's way more to play in that position Zach Gertz is an you know an all-timer at tight end
And so, yeah, he was an old-timer, all-timer.
But still, he got to good spots.
I think this team is desperate for some skill position players.
They've got to be just hoping and praying that Jeremiah Love drops to seven.
I don't think he does, but I bet they take Tate or Tyson.
Whoever the first pick.
Yeah, whoever they prefer.
I think they'll take one of the three wide receivers.
That will definitely change everybody's tune on McLaren's upside for that team if they add one of the big names.
McLaren's not young.
No, he's not.
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