Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Trending or Ending + Changing Offenses - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/19

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Mar 19, 2026. Lots of teams with new offenses in 2026! Will Justin Herbert return to elite form for fantasy football? Can Jalen Hurts and the Eagles offense get back on tra...ck? Find out which new coordinators will have the biggest impact for fantasy football. Plus, Trending or Ending: will Jordan Love bounce back after two down seasons? Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Foot Clan, do you hear the big news about Jalen Waddle being traded for like a one and a three and a four swap? And you're going to hear so much more about it on Tuesday. On Tuesday, because we just pre-recorded this episode right before the Jalen Wattle News broke. So it won't be on today, but we will cover everything, including the clear, obvious way. This is good for Troy Franklin on Tuesday. Stay tuned. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast. with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Oh, welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers podcast. Jason Moore, Mike Wright. I'm Andy Holloway. We're back again. Excited to have you with us as we get you ready for the 2026 fantasy football season, which should be far away. I mean, I think I plugged in an approximate draft date for our League of Record draft
Starting point is 00:01:24 a couple days ago. It's like 176 days away now. So right around the corner. But, I mean, there's just too many steps along the way. We're going to have an NFL draft here soon. We still have more free agent signings. The draft will be here very soon. Is there one specific player situation team in the draft that you're just like,
Starting point is 00:01:49 I got to know what happens? For me, it's Jonah Coleman because he is, he's a player that I like. And if the NFL likes, then I'm in. But I could see the NFL being like, you're, you know, you're going to drop to the fourth round, maybe. If the NFL doesn't like Jonah Coleman, does that mean it doesn't like you? I don't think they know me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I think I'm safe either way. You think you're safe? I think I'm safe. But yeah, that's just one of those players where if he's a second round pick, awesome. If he's a fourth round pick, awful. I like Adam Randall. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:24 The converted wide receiver into running back who is... Just your type. Yeah, I mean, he's 6.3, like 2.30, and a super athlete. And the fact that you're playing running back now, but you have trained as a wide receiver, that's always interesting. You and him matched on fantasy football tennis. Oh, yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I mean, it's very Antonio Gibson. It's very David Johnson. Johnson. The second one was a good example. I mean, Antonio Gibson for all the... Dude, I literally, because I tweet... He hates this so much. I do. Because I got it again.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I know. I tweeted about Adam Randall and people are like, oh, is this going to be another Antonio Gibson? And I'm like, two top 12 fantasy seasons? His rookie year, he was the running back 12. His sophomore year was the running back 10. You're like, oh, no. What a horrifically bad career. But to be fair to them, then he disappeared.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah. forever. Most guys don't up here. So wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's more like the summary. Like if you were to find an Antonio Gibson card in a collection and pull it out, your first thought is, man, that guy, and then it's the following sentence. And I think 99.99% of people would look at Antonio Gibson and say, oh man, that guy had a lot of potential. That's the outcome. Because I think when he was having some success as a rookie and a sophomore, we still wanted more. so it wasn't like we were like, yes, this is the, I'm just not to count it.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Not to say he didn't have successor in those years. It's funny. Remember he fumbled like five times? Well, he had the good year. He had a huge fumbling. Wide receivers don't train on holding on to the balls. It's like a third round. I can always make Mike upset with that though.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Because it's a third round running back. Your expectation should be zero seasons as a top 12 running back. That should be what you would expect. So if Adam Randall is a third round, running back, which is what David Johnson was, which is what Gibson was a third, yeah. Does that mean that this is going to work out again? And you just have to hope he's never the running back 10 because that was like the demise of both of those guys. I mean, honestly, because if you're talking rookie picks, that's the season, if Adam Randall goes in the third
Starting point is 00:04:38 round, he'll be, you know, he'll be in the second round of rookie picks. And if your second round running back gives you two RB1 seasons, like that's a smash pick. I think. I think, think with this year's running, if for some reason he is in the third round, meaning he's a day two pitch. Yeah. I don't think he will be. I don't either, but if he does, I'll bet he sneaks into the back of the first for a rookie dress. Yeah, maybe because of the class is so bad, maybe. It'll be interesting. But there's going to be so many wide receivers. Like, first and second round wide receivers should fill up the majority of your first round of rookie draft. We'll know soon. Well, we got a lot to get into today. I'm going to jump into our quick question momentarily. I want to
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Starting point is 00:06:00 Trending or ending, Jordan Love will finish as the quarterback 15 or worse. It is now a two-year trend for Jordan Love. He had the spectacular debut as the starter for Green Bay in 2023. Quarterback five on the year, the last two years, quarterback 15, quarterback 17. he missed two games in each of the last two years. He has lost Romeo Dobbs in the offseason, trending or ending? Not just missing two games, this wasn't like, if Jordan Love played all 17, it would be great. I mean, he was about three points per game fewer than the breakout campaign.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah, both of the last two years. So it's like you're at the point now of was that the outright? Right. That's the question. I mean, that really is, is, was that year where he was the quarterback five and through 32 touchdowns? Was that his outlier year? Or the last two years with Josh Jacobs being in town, scoring so many rushing touchdowns? I mean, when we watch Jordan Love, he looks like a really good quarterback.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I think he's great. Personally, I think he's a great quarterback. Personally, I felt like that year when he threw 32 touchdowns was not the norm. like his norm, which is good. I'm not, like, I think this is trending. He will be outside the top 15 at quarterback, in my opinion. That doesn't mean he's bad. He's not a below average quarterback.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's just he's not really an elite quarter. I look back the last couple years of just what is like the average, you know, NFL team. Like I looked at the team level so that injuries aren't skewing it. How many passing touchdowns is the average team? take out the leaders and take out the crappy teams. What do they throw? And it's usually about mid-20s, right? 24, 25 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And you look back and we're like, what a piece of garbage quarterback. And Aikman never hit that number, right? Some of the other greats. Imagine 25 passing touchdowns. What a bum. Yeah. And so you look and it's like, okay, well, he threw 23 last year, 25 the year before. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:08:10 That's good, but that's not ever going to be. if you're throwing 23, 25 touchdowns, you're not a top five quarterback unless you are rushing for 10 touchdowns. I think one of the things that makes it complicated about, and I think trending, by the way, I'm on the trending side as well. I think...
Starting point is 00:08:28 Which, this is, I don't like the trending or ending. I know, I don't either. The trending is the negative here? That's right. Like ending would be like, oh, it's good. It feels that way. But we're saying that the bad trend is continuing. Correct.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I think the challenge here is that you've lost Romeo Dobbs. Whatever you think about Romeo Dobbs, he's a solid maybe above average wide receiver that is now at the door. Tucker Kraft is coming back from a major injury. I'm looking at pass attempts before Josh Jacobs arrived. 34 a game for Jordan Love. In the big season? In the big season.
Starting point is 00:09:04 28 a game because he threw the ball 579 times in 2022. You didn't have a weapon in the running game that was, really a goal line weapon. And so you look at, okay, how do you throw seven fewer touchdowns on average? Well, Josh Jacobs is the answer to that question. But yeah, Tucker Kraft coming back from injury, you know, Matthew Golden's going to have his chance to make a mark, and I'll probably have some big plays.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But I think more of the same for Green Bay, they can be a very successful team if you throw us 25 touchdowns. Yeah, their defense is really good, and that sucks. I think it's always hard when there's a guy that you think if the situation allowed it could be better? Like, I think that's the way it feels with Jordan Love is like if you decided to let him throw the ball 579 times, he would be a perennial top 5, six, seven quarterback. That's just not the dynamic there in Green Bay right now.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. You don't have, if they had added A.J. Brown, maybe we can have a conversation. Jordan Love strikes me as a guy that before the career is over, you'll have one or two more seasons where he's like, he goes Baker Mayfield of, right, two years ago. It's just everything's on, you know, the luck is there. The touchdown variance luck is there. He's just, he's hitting on the big throws. But I think that he, yeah, he's more of this like a high-end QB2.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, so are you in the same camp where you think he'll be outside that group? Yeah. Not a sneaky late round quarterback to draft? No, I did. No, I'd rather take a shot on like Malik Willis. It's, it's so wild because you look at, I mean, I know he's the MVP now, 46 touchdowns. It's just, like Matthews. Stafford threw 20 last year. He threw 24 the year before. Right. Like played 15, 16 games,
Starting point is 00:10:48 20 and 24. Sometimes you have a special season. Maybe that was the first season for Jordan Love. But streamer, yeah, he's a streaming quarterback candidate, one that I would play in a good matchup or if, you know, if Josh Jacobs was hurt. Yeah, I was going to say if Josh Jacobs goes down, Jordan Love can do it. I just don't need him to go out there and throw the ball 35 times. Underdog ADP is QB17. That feels right. So there you go. We're going to jump right into the main event.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Coaching Carousel. Well, on Tuesday we went through all the head coaching changes and the corresponding offensive coordinator changes on a number of teams. There were 10 teams that changed head coaches. Today we're going to take a further dive into teams that have changed just the offensive coordinator position. And there is a coaching changes section in the ultimate draft kit that we dive into. We talked about Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, Buffalo, Cleveland, Las Vegas, Miami, New York, Pittsburgh, Tennessee on Tuesday if you want to hear our fantasy implications of those moves. A couple quick facts about offensive coordinators.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Kyle's always setting some of this stuff aside for us and the turnover in the NFL. Only five of the current 32 offensive coordinators have been in that role with their team for two plus years. I mean, if you're really good as an OC, like really good, you get a. head coaching opportunity. Or you're bad and you get fired. Right. Yeah. So. Yeah, you don't stick around and just be kind of okay. Yeah, like you don't have really long tenured OCs very often. So it looks like the five that have been around, West Phillips with Kevin O'Connell, but O'Connell's like, like he's not a, O'Connell's really the engine there, right? Yeah. Yeah. This is Mike's point that he brings up all the time, which is if you have a defensive head coach and your offense is great,
Starting point is 00:12:52 you're losing your offensive coordinator. If you want to keep your offensive coordinator, then have them go to an offensive head coach not named Sean McVeigh. Well, and I was going to say, we'll talk about the McVeigh situation because he's always got turnover at OC, but he's calling plays and so involved. He's kind of, he's now taking like a multi-pronged approach to offensive assistance. Yeah, the Rams are Just like everyone wants the springboard McVeigh just wants to
Starting point is 00:13:23 McVeigh wants every coach in the league to just be under his coaching tree Him versus Shanahan They're just trying to spread their seed That's all they're doing They want lots of coach babies out there Yeah, yeah that's what they're doing That's the old phrase
Starting point is 00:13:42 That is how we would put it That's how they're doing it Jason would Johnny Appleseed. Throwing them everywhere. Okay. Yeah. So there are 11 new offensive coordinators we're going to highlight today. Eight of the 11 will be play callers for their team.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And we'll just jump in. We'll do it alphabetical order here. Starting with the Bears, they know, I mean, we know Ben Johnson calls the plays there. Declan Doyle, 30 years old, right? Moving on. Press Taylor, now the offensive coordinator for the Bears. younger brother of Cincinnati head coach Zach Taylor. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I guess I can kind of see that. Because of the names? Yeah, yeah, that's it. The names. They're very similar. No, I was looking at a picture of them. But it looks like they could be brothers. It looks like they could be brothers.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Looks like they could be brothers. But this is one where you don't really feel instability. Nope. In fact, the Chicago offensive situation is just going to be really, really interesting because, like, Jason, I don't think you were a part of this conversation. Might have been the footcast. Someone brought up, like, why are you so in on Luther Burden? Why isn't Adunzee a sleeper? We kind of talked through it.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I think Adunze is a huge sleeper. Like, he's definitely a player that I'm paying attention to. The first 13 weeks of the season, he had a 22% target share on that team last year. Colson Loveland had been banged up, not a part of the offense as much. Same with Luther Burden. weeks 14 through 18 it completely changed Adunzei was hurt he missed time
Starting point is 00:15:19 Colson Loveland grabbed a strangle hold Luther Burden started to establish and then in the playoffs it was all Loveland right 28% target share for him adunzee down to 13% but the departure of DJ more in general like I think the bears are just one of the highlight teams for the entire
Starting point is 00:15:35 off season that you can be excited about what they started to form if Caleb Williams can start to throw the ball more accurately you got what you have five skill position players that you will want to draft. I think Loveland is the one that I'm going after. But then it's like even though I prefer burden over Roma Dunzee. There's going to be drafts where Roma Dunzee lines up where this is a value.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I want to take a shot at the Chicago offense. Then DeAndre Swift, Kyle Minan guy, do do-do do-do. All of these players are going to be drafted. And this is what happens when you give us the just, something glorious like Ben Johnson getting an offense. Yeah, hopefully. But I will say this. If Caleb Williams doesn't break the record for passing yardage for the Chicago
Starting point is 00:16:24 Bears, you're going to be disappointed. Oh, of course. It's just a- Well, you won't be happy with all of them. That's what I mean. Either one person breaks up. Of course. But what I worry is if he throws-
Starting point is 00:16:33 You want tickets into that show, though. Yeah, I'm just saying the show might not be as big as we think. If he throws for 3,900 passing yards, okay like everyone's going to have a stretch of games that are good so that's my only worry with the Bears you've got to have them throw for 4,300
Starting point is 00:16:52 well I mean what was it Jordan Love the last two years was the 3,300 that was the crazy number there you talk about the offensive pieces in Green Bay as well but I get what you're saying I think that this is one of the situations
Starting point is 00:17:05 they lost a star center I'm not gonna we can't forget about that their offensive line was so good last year third according to PFF. They've got to fix the center position. That's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:17:19 But Ben Johnson is the offensive mastermind here. It's not going to be Press Taylor. Declan Doyle benefited from being under Ben Johnson and getting a job, another job. But Press Taylor is just stepping into kind of literally assist, not call plays, right? Yeah. All right, let me take a quick break for us,
Starting point is 00:17:39 and then we'll come back and talk about the other 10. the Denver Broncos Okay I This one's weird I love talking about the Denver Broncos Because you hate I find Sean Payton to be
Starting point is 00:17:59 Simultaneously a good coach And just plain annoying Just kind of I love How you rant on him Just like a dude That's got to be talked about a lot
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's got to be angry all the time I mean you even saw it When he got rid of his offense coordinator It was like, I can't remember the exact quote, Kyle. Maybe you can find it. It was something to the extent of like, he's like, yeah, Sean was just in one of his moods. That's what I feel all the time. I mean, that was the quote.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It was like, he's in one of his moods. He was going to, you know, he was going to be mad no matter what. It's funny because I can completely see your perspective. And I don't think you're wrong. And yet I don't despise Sean Payton. I like him. I like his personality. If he was my head coach of the, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:46 my team if I had a team. Right. Yes. You know, I would, I would like that he is that head coach, and I would enjoy, I do enjoy his press conferences. I like watching him talk. I like how he explains stuff. Also, it is clear as day that Sean Payton wants you to think very highly of Sean Payton. I mean to a very unhealthy degree. That's very clear and obvious. Yeah. He has the Bounty Gate stuff trailing him to. He likes his own brand.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He's a fart sniffer. He smells his own farting. Yeah. And he's like, hey. Which is a little bit, it's a funny transition into the conversation about the hire because Davis Webb is now the offensive coordinator. Joe Lombardi, the quote was, Sean Peyton was in one of those moods where he felt like some changes needed to be made. So I've been around him long enough to kind of read the tea leaves. Davis Webb's taking over, but then the funny part is it's like, Sean Payton didn't put.
Starting point is 00:19:45 put his foot down and say, well, I'm calling plays anyway. He basically said, you know, I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't feel like it would help our team. I'll still be involved, but he said he's going to hand over a play calling to Davis Webb. And to be honest with you, the offense is what was inconsistent and struggled last year. Now, I can't blame Sean Payton for Cortland Sutton's drops. I can't blame him for the random errant passes by Bo Nix or the fact that Bo Nix was like so hot and cold. I will always remember the Raider game where they just,
Starting point is 00:20:15 looks so incompetent and won whatever 1310 or 107 on Thursday night football and we were like what is this but I I find myself slightly more encouraged by a change happening I do too Davis Webb got head coaching opportunities like interviews around the league and then they and then Peyton retained him he's you know people believe that Davis Webb is an extremely talented offensive mind so to give away play calling duties when you are Sean Payton, it bodes well for me to believe in Davis Webb. And if you didn't
Starting point is 00:20:51 listen to our True Series episodes, Bo Nix just for example, the last two years is two years starting, 38% bus games, 35% bust games. 13% great games. That would be, I think our threshold is what, 25 or above for quarterbacks? Some are around there. And only 12% this year.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So consistency has been a problem. He's been outside the top 10 in consistency, despite finishing in the top 10 in terms of total fantasy points. And maybe you could see you know, it seems clear from their comments and what they're doing, they would like to strengthen the running back room. They brought back Jillio McLaughlin,
Starting point is 00:21:24 just to be a thorn in the side of everybody else. We'll see what the draft holds, but I find myself slightly more encouraged that a change is happening. I can agree. Mike, talk to me about your favorite offensive coordinator of all time. The Detroit Lions,
Starting point is 00:21:39 they have brought in, they finished nine and eight, they did not make the playoffs, they were fourth and points per game. offense was pretty good numbers wise defense struggled injuries 22nd in points per game john morton is out he had lost play calling duties to dan campbell partway through the year and the blobfish has arrived drew petzing the new offensive coordinator for the Detroit lions it feels so much worse it does to call him the block he's not a cardinal
Starting point is 00:22:06 when he's not hurting us and our fandom now it just feels like kind of cruel kind of a cruel insult. Right. But once you're named is like John your birth certificate. Right. Just. Mr. Bob, maybe Mr. Lobfish? Oh, that's a nicer. That's Mr. Blobfish to you. How did things, how did they watch
Starting point is 00:22:29 Arizona and they're like, mm-hmm. I actually understand this. I think it's going to be totally fine. I do. I do. I think it's going to work out really well. And this is as someone who's, but as in, you think that Drew coming in makes things better. over Morton. Not than Ben Johnson, but then John Martin. Correct.
Starting point is 00:22:46 It's like, I think that the Lions without an O.C. It's just Dan Campbell. I think they will have great success on offense. I do too. I think if they didn't have Drew Petsing, they wouldn't be bad. Drew Petsing coming in.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He's got some good concepts in the running game. He does. He does. It worked in Arizona. James Connor was great. They've got Gibbs and they've got a better offensive line there. than what the Cardinals had. When they had a quarterback that could stand in the pocket
Starting point is 00:23:16 and Jacoby Brissette was allowed to throw the ball. Yeah, they were a good offense. They were a good offense. Kyler did not fit the petzing scheme at all, and petting couldn't seemingly adapt to Kyler. But, you know, that's the tiny, cowardly mobile quarterback, which is the exact opposite of Jared Gough, the immobile, pretty brave.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He'll stand in there and take a hit. It's a tough division. It's going to be a dog fight in that division, but I kind of lean on Jason's side. I think for what Detroit wants to do on offense, he's going to fit in quite well. Do you see any shake-ups happening? By the way, their schedule is going to be delicious this year
Starting point is 00:24:00 because they face a fourth-place schedule despite going nine and eight because of that division. So they get to play against the Giants, the Titans, and the Cardinals. Oh, the return of the blob fans. that'll be fun. Do you see anything being shaken up of Amundra, Williams, or Jameson Williams, and Gibbs?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Or just kind of status quo? I do think Dan Campbell is still going to have a pretty heavy influence on the type of offense they run. But Jason, I never got your response. Neither of us did to the incredibly big signing of Isaiah Pacheco. Look, they're going to use him enough behind a good. office of line to have fantasy relevance, they will deploy Gibbs so much more than they did last year. I think it is, it makes Pacheco relevant because he's on the Lions.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I think Pacheco is the test for Drew. That like, if Drew keeps putting Pacheco out, that's when Dan will just, he'll take all the play calling from him. Should Gibbs be, with the signing, I know we were waiting on a backup slash committee back, is Gibbs number one for you now? Right now? No, it could have flipped before Alger left, you know, because it was like, oh, it was Beijon. And then once David Montgomery got out of town, it's like, okay, maybe Gibbs should be the number one. But then Alger got out of town. It's like, all right, I'm back.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Okay. Is he number two? Yeah, I think right now it would probably go Beijon Gibbs, one, two. The Kansas City Chiefs have brought an old friend back to stand next to the guy who actually calls the place. Andy Reed. He's a friendly guy. When you're friends with Andy Reid, you're in. You are in.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Nothing, if not loyal. Right. Eric B. Enemy is the new offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs. He is back. He played a huge role in their championships of years gone by. But Matt Nagy's departing. I don't think we gave Matt Nagy a lot of the credit, right? It's in Andy Reed offense.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Oh, I give him none. I mean, from the time that Eric Bienomi left, it did not go well. There was the Washington commander's stint. There was a UCLA stint. Then he got back into the NFL with the Bears as a running backs coach. But like there was head coaching talk about BNMie back in 2020. Oh, yeah, yeah. There was.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And then he almost flamed out of the league. He was, Bienami was the O.C from 2018 to 2000. 22. I will read you the fantasy finishes of 2018. Okay. Also known as Patrick Mahomes first year. QB1 8441 and the QB8 that year was
Starting point is 00:26:54 at 20 and a half points per game. And then the next three years it has been 17.5, 17.6. He did, Mahomes was at 20.3 if you remember because the dude was running so much. So he was you know, getting that cheat code for fantasy football. But it's like all the, the good Mahomes years were not naggy.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah, that's true. That is a fact. Also a fact three of those four years. The wide receiver one, the wide receiver two, and the wide receiver six were Tyree Kill. Yeah. So it's like, it's one of those. In Kelsey's Peak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And a running game for some of it. Kansas City had four offensive plays of 20 plus yards that resulted in a touchdown last year. That was the fewest in the NFL. That's not what you think of. That's not acceptable. How do we not get mad at Reed? Is Reid just immune from like people being, like we just blame the personnel? I don't think I blame just the personnel.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I think it's the trend of how you deploy a defense against this team that was beating you over the top over and over and over. They go to, you know, the shell defense, the two high safeties. Then they take what the defense gives them. And it's worked for most of the last years. Now, this past year, injuries got in the way they didn't get in the playoffs. Then they did the right thing and shut things down towards the end of the year. They've got the best draft capital coming into this season that they've had pretty much in the Mahomes era. So I think it's going to get a little bit fixed.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But the offensive skill positions are still a big question mark. Kelsey's older. They don't have a successful downfield threat. Even after re-signing Thornton, huh? Yeah, I mean, Thornton is MBS. They don't have a Tyree. I'm saying I'm sarcasm. Mahomes is the injury.
Starting point is 00:28:44 We have to overcome all of that. But I'm more hopeful now that we're... Well, it's good for the running game. We're done with the budget magician. I think it's good for the running game. I think that's the one area where BN and me has had consistent presence, both on Kansas City and elsewhere. So to me, if they can establish it, which is the first agenda that they had...
Starting point is 00:29:02 Oh, it will be established. Then that seems kind of interesting to me. The Chargers. This is a fun one to talk about. Mike McDaniel replacing Greg Roman. I'm not sure you could have more opposite personalities ages. 11 and 6 last year, second in the AFC West. Mike McDaniel is 43, but he really seems 25. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a young soul. He takes a BMX bike to work.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And he looks like he's still growing, you know. So it's like, he's just a kid having fun out there. It is. The dynamic of him and Harbaal together is spectacular. But I think we all really respected. I respected how the dolphins continued to play hard for him, despite the season going to crap and obviously eventually letting Tua completely go. Players have always loved him. You know, we've talked to Juice, a big fan of the show, who worked with Mike McDaniel when he was an OC back in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And everybody loves Mike McDaniel, thinks he's really smart. The fact that he doesn't have to work. wear the head coaching helmet and deal with all the press and all, you know, let him just go be the- He would fall over. He's a little guy. Be the little scientist. Yeah. Creating cool plays. Yeah, they were 24th in points per game last year. Herbert was the first quarterback since 2018 to lead the league in percentage of dropbacks
Starting point is 00:30:25 pressured and still make the playoffs. So the Herbert defenders. I will not ever stop defending Herbert. It's hard after what he did in the playoffs. to not say uh it was that was real bad um the charges are very exciting
Starting point is 00:30:43 the offensive line McDaniel there the offensive line is getting massively improved because they already had two great tackles both of who got injured through the year and they lost both of them they're getting them back yes later and alt and then they just went and got a great
Starting point is 00:31:00 center so now it's like okay so your center and your edges are elite you go from terrible fullback and an elite blocking tight in in Charlie Kohler. I mean, I'm already pre-in-love with the Chargers offense. And a guard and another tackle.
Starting point is 00:31:16 You're pre-in-love? Yeah. Okay. No, I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic. No question. And McDaniel should be able to put the players in the best position to succeed. I think that's been the thing that's been difficult sometimes.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Like, huge, he has a role to play. He's not probably a superstar. Ladd McConkey, you know, we had the amazing rookie year. It was kind of weird last year. You know, can he reemerge under Mike McDaniel? You'd think so, especially with Keenan Allen, probably not back, but who knows if he's back? Because he's Keenan Allen. Yeah, it'll be really interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I want the news on whether Keenan Allen's back, but I feel like I won't know if Keenan Allen is back until kickoff. You know, like, he's coming out of the tunnel? Yeah, it's just like, hey, we signed Keenan out. Yeah, you got me again. He's going to be so late. on the way out of the tunnel. All right. Another, we alluded to it, the Rams, new offensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:32:13 LaFleur is gone in Arizona as the head coach. Nate, Sheelhaus is replacing Mike LaFleur, but they also signed Cliff Kingsbury to be an offensive assistant head coach. If you read about what they're talking about the utilization, it's going to be more Sheel House with, like, Cliff's not going to be taking over an officer coordinator role, but he is going to be a game planning play design assistant. McVeigh, we already know, is calling the game.
Starting point is 00:32:43 It's just another good offensive mind to have a round for McVe. I don't think we ever look. Every year is like, okay, so who's the OC for the Rams? And it doesn't really matter. We're hoping they're smart. They usually are. And then they can go become a head coach after they get spritz with the McVeigh sent. And then I went smell.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, I heard it. The smint. But yeah, I honestly, having more good offensive minds there cannot hurt, especially when you have such a mastermind of running
Starting point is 00:33:21 the team in McVeigh. I don't worry about, oh, well, we'll heads butt, what if they've got different game plan ideas? Like, McVeigh is in charge, and they know that. So this is just going to be a great offense. I can't believe they have the Falcons pick at 13. I mean, they're a really, really good team.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I don't know what the current odds are to win the Super Bowl, but if the Rams aren't like second or third or maybe first, I'd be shocked. I know they're the favorites to win the division, even though Seattle obviously won it last year and won the Super Bowl. I think it's very close between Rams and Seattle last I saw. To speak of an offense with the most opposite perspective possible, the Jets have hired
Starting point is 00:34:06 Frank Reich. Huh? Huh? I am seeing right now. Is this a big joke? This Jets thing? Frank Reich. Who do you want? I want Gino. The Jets are very unserious.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I feel bad for very few fan bases more than our own. But the Jets certainly qualify. I don't know how you can stick with that team. Frank Reich will be, I presume, the interim head coach by years end. They're bringing in someone at OC who has been a head coach in the past.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I also presume he will not be the taking over the team next year. No, no. Frank Reich will not make it through the season. Oh, that's the other. He might. Well, no, Andy's bringing up a good point. because we know Aaron Glenn will Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:07 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, he's got his samurai sword out. He's ready to get to work. Like, you will not be the interim.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I mean, not allow it. He's already played the half season situation before, right? In Carolina. Well, yeah, Reich was. He's,
Starting point is 00:35:23 he's not unpacking it all of his belongings. It's, I think it's passed him by. I think that's what we saw very obvious. I mean, this is going to be a disaster. The Jets represent the biggest challenge for the Cardinals
Starting point is 00:35:38 getting this number one pick. Yeah, agreed. Man. It's a bummer. I'm sorry, Jets fans. And fantasy players. You know it. We know it. I'm sorry to Brie's Hall.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You have two elite players at their position and when you go to draft them. Jim Smith and Breeze Hall. When you go to draft those guys, it's going to be difficult and it's going to... Yeah, because you're going to have to talk about Frank Reich being your officer coordinator and Aaron Glenn still being the head coach
Starting point is 00:36:11 and Gino Smith being the quarterback, if not him, Justin Fields. It's going to be a bunch of stuff like that all offseason long. It's Andy's Thing to Remember from the Things to Remember episode. Yeah, bad teams ruin good players. There you go. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. That's our analysis on Frank Reich.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Oh, yeah. caller. We should have, someone's got to have odds of like who gets fired first, Reich or Aaron Glenn?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah. I think, I do, I do think Frank will be the interim head coach that might be the case. That might be the case. We'll take a break.
Starting point is 00:36:48 We'll be right back. Well, it's time to talk about Jason's favorite player of all time. Sean Mannion, taking over as the offensive coordinator for your Philadelphia Eagles. My dude.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Sean Mannion. My boy, Sean Manion. or Jason's boy, John, maybe. Thank you. Okay. Well, Kevin Petulah wasn't getting it done. We know that.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And it seemed like not a lot of people wanted this job. No, no, because they, I don't know, there's just a bad vibe right now with the Philadelphia offense. If Aaron, or sorry, if A.J. Brown is traded. Right now, Goddard is not resigned as of this recording, right? Correct. And as of this recording, A.J. Brown is not traded. Correct. But, you know, Sequin Barclay, last year it was a big difference. Not getting younger. Question marks around Jalen Hertz's abilities to take the team as far as they'd like them to.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Last year, they were 19th in points per game. The year before they were seventh under Kellanmore, the championship year. They were 24th in yards per game, the year before they were eighth. They were 11th in Russia attempts per game. They were number one the year before. That's correlated to success and leading games. And then turnovers per game, that number still. good. So they didn't turn the ball over a 10. But I feel like the OC for Philly, your biggest job is you are a human shield for Nick Sirian. That's why that's why people did not want. Like that's your job is. Oh, that's why they don't want the job.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Is you show up and then if things don't go well for the team, you get to take all the blame. But at the same time, there is the opportunity that if things go really well for the team. It's possible that you can leave the team. in a good manner like Kellen Moore did. That's true. I mean, they, well, Super Bowl will do that. This is still a talented enough roster both sides of the ball to win a Super Bowl. Well, yeah, because the defensive side is so good, your task as an offensive play caller is to just be competent.
Starting point is 00:38:55 You don't actually have to be a top five offense. Just getting the top half. Now, Seekwon last year, and this is a concern for this team. And I don't know if it translates, say, Tank Biggsby getting opportunities or what. But among 55 qualified running backs with 80 plus rush attempts, he was 48th in percentage of runs stuffed at the line of scrimmage, 48th in rush success rate, 40 second and yards after contact per attempt. That doesn't seem great.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Sending the tank. Hopefully that is, you know, hopefully it's an outlier, but. Yeah, Lane Johnson missed a lot of time. Yeah, but when running backs, it. How often do they bounce back from this? When it's gone, it's gone. And it vanishes seemingly overnight. And it does all of our heroes that they play long enough.
Starting point is 00:39:45 It just disappears. And then you, they still have like multiple years left in the league where you're hoping. Yeah, we're kind of all right. You're like, yeah, do you remember how good Barclay was? It's going to be really hard. It's going to do it again. It's going to be hard not to drop some where he drops. That'll be the hardest challenge with Saquo and Barclay.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Because you could easily talk yourself into the offensive line improving and the team improving. Lane Johnson, you look at the splits with him and without him as a team, wins, losses, points, everything. He's one of the best tackles in the league, and it shows. So having him back and healthy, you would imagine, hey, maybe the run game will work. Maybe everything will open up and be better. And you're not drafting Saquan number one like you were last year. Right. So Jason, very, very early, just off the top of your head.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Ken Bone Walker or Saquan Barkley. Ken Bone Walker, all right. Seattle. Goodbye, Clint. Kubiak, you just earned yourself a head coaching job. Also, before we move on, I just was, since we're talking about these teams and we were saying Super Bowl odds, looks like the Eagles are the seventh highest Super Bowl odds. The Rams are, in fact, the favorites. Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And Seahawks are second. There you go. 14 and 3 first in the NFC West. Clint Kubiak is now the head coach of the Raiders, and Brian Fleury is taking over. Part-time Viking, full-time offensive coordinator. he's got a Luke by this by look at this picture here 45 years old
Starting point is 00:41:10 was with the dolphins and then was with the 49ers he was with Leif Erickson before that though Leaf Erickson yeah is that a Viking yeah okay I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:41:24 that's your that's your heritage Jason didn't know us talking about guys it's it's Are you upset back there Papa Josh you know what he's talking about? No I got it that's because you look like a Viking yourself. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:37 That is actually the nicest thing you've ever said to Josh. He took it as a hardcore compliment. And you were probably around when they were... Is that not just an objective compliment if you're... Like the look of a Viking? I don't know. I mean, depends if you're a man or a woman. Okay. That's fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I think most men would take it as a compliment. Yeah, I mean, you know, big and strong. If I told you, like, you looked like you're in a biker gang, would you take that a compliment? No, I wouldn't. Pretty similar. I think that it's a similar. Yeah, I think the Vikings translated straight into biker gang. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:20 They retired from Vikings and then they got a motorcycle. Like, I'm old. I'm going to start a biker gang. That's how I see them now, yeah. Oh, they're not all old, man. Riding their land boats. Exactly. The water's too tough on my tummy now. Give me flat ground. They're land boats. The wooden motorcycles. Those are the ones the Vikings ride.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Lee Perkinson has a day? October 9th. Leaf Erickson Day. So this is a real person. Yes. Well, you said it's from a book. Genuinely. Yes, a history book, Jason. I wish I could leave you alone. But I thought he was talking about some actor that played a or something. So I am out of the
Starting point is 00:43:05 history books. When you go to the library, there's nonfiction books and fiction books. Oh, you're allowed to go? He's like a very famous I'm not allowed. You can go into the nonfiction section?
Starting point is 00:43:17 You're allowed. Huh. Hmm. There's no bees. Do they have nonfiction? Do they have nonfiction in audible? Of course.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Okay. Well, that's news to me. Expectations for this. Seattle offense. Losing Kubiak, you have to say, is a big blow, right? I mean, you were, and you lost Ken Walker. So they got to re- And Charbonnet. They got to re-focused the running game. But you got J.S.N, right? You got Sam Darnold. They really have to pick up the pieces and figure some things out here. They paid Rashid Shaheed. We'll see if Barner, Arroyo maybe breaks out a little bit in year two. Tori Horton will come back from injury.
Starting point is 00:44:02 You know, you expect them to be a very good team because their defense is very good. They were number two in points per game. I don't know if we see that kind of year again, right? A couple years ago, it was like this was the story with the Lions, right? It was like they were that good on offense. Can you repeat that? But top five, top 10 offense? Very difficult. That's what you're aiming for.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Do you have confidence that Flurry will get the job done? No. I mean, you've got the same quarterback. You've got a great wide receiver. They're coming off of the Super Bowl. Great. Can they be just as good as they were last year? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:40 But am I confident in that when you lose your best running back, your entire running back core to start the year? And the guy who is so good at manufacturer, you know, the Kubiak system, that run scheme worked really well. now he has left to become a head coach. We just talked about the Eagles, right? The Eagles went to a Super Bowl, and they had Kellynne Moore,
Starting point is 00:45:05 and he went and took a head coaching job, and they still were a good team. They still had the same offensive pieces. But they didn't have Kellyn Moore, and the scheme wasn't as good, and then that guy got fired the next year, and people were upset. I could see that happening for the Seahawks
Starting point is 00:45:21 if Kubiak was really part of the magic sauce of making this offense work. extremely run heavy. They were, they were, when they threw, they were incredibly successful, especially going down the, I mean, Sam Donald to JSN down the field was truly magic last year. It seemed like every time he's going to throw it 20 air yards, JSN will be wide open. But that might be because of how run heavy they were. Right. That's what I'm saying of. They, with no Walker and you, I can't imagine that charges there at the beginning of the year. How do you maintain that? If that's what, if that's, if that's,
Starting point is 00:45:56 That's what the team wants to be, which, I mean, that you would think so as you had what Ryan Grubb two years ago gets fired after a great season, a successful season in terms of your record, because we didn't like how the direction of the offense. We want to run more. So we bring in Kubiak. If you don't have your two top running backs, how do you do that? I think they will make a splash in the draft. I think it's very likely that they will, that running back. I think that was part of the decision. Yeah, could be. You want to pay Ken Walker, big running back money? It's just, it's a really difficult year to make a splash.
Starting point is 00:46:34 But they got the perfect pick to do it. Last pick of the first round. Yeah, I mean, but the issue is, I mean, obviously, Jeremiah Love will be long gone by then. The splash doesn't have to be a top five pick. I'm just saying, like, one of the top two or three running backs on the board. they could easily drop the second running back off the board. Yeah. That's all I mean.
Starting point is 00:46:54 With their second pick. Yeah. I mean, you got. I don't know how much the NFL is going to love this crop. Exactly. Tampa Bay. Every year. Always.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Josh Gazard. Is Baker Mayfield the quarterback? That means new OC. Always. I mean, Zach Robinson, no. Do he still like,
Starting point is 00:47:16 does he still have enough of the whiff of McVeigh on him? uh it's starting to wear off i think he could be tracked by a bloodhound for sure that was searching for yeah there's there's enough there's enough if robinson was lost in the woods and you gave him a mcvay hanky thinking they could track him down there's enough hanky uh the buccaneer started six and two after the buy
Starting point is 00:47:40 they went two and seven it was it was sad it was a sad MVP for for baker as it was for abuka as it was for i mean evans is gone now. I think the clock is running out on Todd Bowles. This is another situation that I can see. Todd Bulls is on the hot seat. You know, it's like Frank Reich versus Aaron Glenn leaving. I think if this team started slow, you could have Zach Robinson as your interim head coach. Absolutely. So ultimately, we've come to expect changes in the offensive coordinator position for fantasy purposes. You know, I certainly am not, I don't think that Zach Robinson makes me feel way better. I don't think he makes me feel way worse about. the situation. I like that Evans is out of the way for fantasy purposes for the wide receiver
Starting point is 00:48:23 room for Kate Otten. I think Baker has gotten used to getting it done with different coordinators, but I don't have like great, I don't think this is a major move. I like that it's an experienced play caller, someone that comes in and, you know, he's not trying to figure this out. We didn't know how the grizzler would do. Sometimes you are able to, be Liam Cohen where you know you get that first shot and you prove yourself and sometimes you get that first shot and you're like you are found unworthy
Starting point is 00:48:56 it's nice to have someone come in and you're gone Grizzler. We know you're not bad Zach Robinson is not bad. My code's not working. I can't get back in the building. Someone had to someone had to fall in the sword for bowls not to leave. That's the truth of that situation. It's either going to be balls out the door or somebody who's going to have to get the
Starting point is 00:49:14 it's your fault, not mine. It's not me. I'm not leaving. Yeah. So, you know, I'm going to be mildly interested in the, in the Buccaneers. I'm very excited to see where, with Mike Evans leaving, where a big boo is drafted will be fascinating. Emika, a big boo. I'm guessing that if you look at where he's going on underdog right now, it's not where he's going to land come August. Well, we should all guess. Kyle can tell us, but we should guess where we think he's going in underdog like right now.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Like now? Yeah. I am going to guess he is going at, I have my guess. I've got mine. Wide receiver number? Wide receiver number. Yeah, I've got mine. I will guess wide receiver 22.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I had 23. I had 26. Kyle? He's 21. I think it will rise. I do too. Yes, I do. Sir.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I love the cadence. It was really eager. Yeah. I think it will rise. I do, too. I think that there could be some definite reasons for optimism there as a go-to. Because you go into next year, I mean, Godwin. Godwin is really reliable, but not explosive anymore, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:50:40 So then you're looking at Abuca. Can he take the mantle there? And he's a good receiver. You don't do what you did in the first seven weeks, eight weeks, if you're not. So we'll see. Washington. Boy, the wheels fell off last year. Everything went wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And then they lost Cliff Kingsbury now. He was a revelation for Jayton Daniels as a rookie. David Blow. Blow, Blow, Blow, Blow, Blow. Taken over. David Blow. The defense was bad, guys. The backwards hat Dan, I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:08 he's kind of like Doug Peterson. It really works in the beginning. That's how I feel about... We have the numbers, Andy. I don't know if you saw them. Okay, go ahead. So in 2024, head coach Dan Campbell went 10 and 4 in the regular season with Dan Campbell.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I'm sorry. Dan Quinn went 10 and 4 in games he wore a backwards hat. Oh, we have backwards hat number. Yeah. Yeah, no, this is Kyle gives us the stuff. Now, just, and something to note in that year, 2 and 0 with a beanie on. Just a side factor. Undefeated.
Starting point is 00:51:38 2025, it flipped. Head coach, backwards hat games, 3 and 12. 2 and 0 with a beanie. Oh, undefeated. So he hasn't lost with the beanie in two years? Correct. And he looks better. What is the...
Starting point is 00:51:53 How old is he? Get these numbers to Quinn. Because we've done some math on like when you should be wearing a backwards head. Don't you... Well, we don't. That's... Colin Coward? Yes. Well, we can lay claim to the head coaching.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I mean, he can judge the quarterbacks with backwards hats. We can judge head coaches. Here's what I think. Head coach. I think if you win a bunch of games, you can do whatever you want. And I think if you don't, you look dumb and stupid. Like that haircut for Matt LaFleur? It's going to look fine if he's a 12-win coach.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yeah, and if you look like that. I'd get the clippers ready. I'd get the clippers ready. We like bad defenses for offenses to have potential. Jayden Daniels didn't get to play much last year. Three games with McLaurin. He only started seven total. We know the offense is going to look very different.
Starting point is 00:52:44 David Blah, had good comments about McLaren, too. because a lot has been made about the head coach and Cliff Kingsbury arguing about what the offense should be. Cliff is a very, it's a college offense where it's everything is shotgun. And Dan Quinn wants people, he wants his quarterback under center more.
Starting point is 00:53:07 He wants to utilize that to a great effect for the run game. And so I would expect that that will happen a lot. Now, what will Jaden Daniels success be in that type of offense? Because it's very different being the shotgun-only quarterback versus the under center. I mean, I think Jaden's good, so he'll be able to adapt to it. But it will be something to pay attention to, especially if he struggles early. David Blas came out and said he wants to run the office through Terry McLaurin
Starting point is 00:53:38 and get him 10-plus targets a game. That was one of the things that he said. He said that's going to be part of the goal of the offense, which you like to hear for fantasy. You do. Mike, you seem to be. It's the 10 targets. Skepticism?
Starting point is 00:53:49 How many times are you throwing the ball? 11. I mean, are you throwing the ball 28 times? And you're giving McLaurin 10 targets every week? It's just untenable. Okay. It's math.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I don't know how untenable it is with their current depth chart. Because they don't have enough. Who are you throwing the ball to here? Yeah, name somebody. Chig Oconquo. there you go. Yeah. There's three.
Starting point is 00:54:17 You didn't get to hear this guy lose. Luce has been Senate love and Chick-a-Conquo. Do you think he'll be a pretty good asset for fantasy? Because Zachertz was a very good asset for Jaden Daniel. Zachers is coming off major injury. And that was the limited version of Zachard. Yeah. It wasn't young, healthy Okonkwo.
Starting point is 00:54:37 No, no chance he makes a huge impact for fantasy. Okay. You're out. Chick is fine. but there's like I said on the things remember episode they're all they're all fine they all suck other than the complete outliers at tight end sure but it's just you do think he could have an outlier year no no I think he'll be even if he's a you know a top 12 tight end it'll be irrelevant I don't think he is as good as Zach Ertz I know Zach Ertz isn't as athletic as a Conquo
Starting point is 00:55:07 but there's way more to play in that position Zach Gertz is an you know an all-timer at tight end And so, yeah, he was an old-timer, all-timer. But still, he got to good spots. I think this team is desperate for some skill position players. They've got to be just hoping and praying that Jeremiah Love drops to seven. I don't think he does, but I bet they take Tate or Tyson. Whoever the first pick. Yeah, whoever they prefer.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I think they'll take one of the three wide receivers. That will definitely change everybody's tune on McLaren's upside for that team if they add one of the big names. McLaren's not young. No, he's not. All right, we are going to say goodbye for today's episode of the fantasy footballers. We will be going through a full recap of the biggest winners and losers of free agency as we recap all of that and kind of pick some of our favorites in the best situations on our next episode. and then we will do a regress or impress episode on Thursday.
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