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Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Will these trends continue? On today’s fantasy football podcast, a handful of player outlooks for the 2024 season! Will DK Metcalf be a top 15 WR? Will the workload from the playoffs continue for Isiah Pacheco? Plus, NFL News including Mike Williams to the Jets, and Jerry Jeudy’s contract extension! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for March 21st, 2024. Get the lowest price on the 2024 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com - Dynasty Pass content available NOW with the UDK+ Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome in! Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, the Fantasy Footballers, back with you Thursday, March 21st. Al Borland, Judge Giamatti, the Rapscallion in the house over there in Ducer's Alley. Over there in Ducer's Alley. Over there in Ducer's Alley. There they are. There they are. Hey-oh. And looking good, Al, in particular. Really like what you got going on.

You got the pink shirt. Thank you. And all the palm trees on your shirt. That's right. They are palm trees. Yeah, that's what i was saying um but uh al has leaned into a much more like i'm cruising every day kind of lifestyle like every he's wearing most of his cruise attire it makes him feel like he only have cruise attire at this point it makes

him feel like he's about to go on vacation or do something fun and instead of coming to a job where he's despised and rejected. Well, now it makes sense. Is that accurate? Any retort from Deucer's Alley? You never know what a cruise ship's going to pull up with occupancy and need somebody to jump on. And he would jump right out of here. That's for sure.

That's the way you treat him, Jason. Yeah, well, because I would be on his back and make him carry me there. Into the cruise ship. Welcome, one and all, NFL news to talk about. A couple of interesting pieces of news. And then we have trending or ending a mailbag episode today as well. How are you doing, Mr. Moore? Doing fairly well.

I'm excited for this season, this prospect season, the NFL draft. It's been a while since I've been this excited for the NFL draft. So special things in store this year. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of big-time, long-term fantasy contributors coming from this draft. The wide receiver crop, in particular the top end of it, has the potential to look like one of the best classes in a decade.

Could it be a 2014 caliber class? Yeah. No, it's 2024 now. Oh. So it's been a decade. Whoa, is it just the fours? Yes, it's guaranteed. The draft's going to be fun. Reminder, UltimateDraftKid.com.

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And if you get the Dynasty Pass, which is in the UDK Plus, that's going to come with the entire Ultimate Draft Kit. You know, when that season rolls around on June 1st, but you get the pre-order pricing right now. So that's ultimatedraftkit.com. And let's jump into the news. News and notes from around the league. Jerry Judy. Has persuaded the Cleveland Browns to give him a three-year, $41 million guaranteed contract extension that's worth up to 58 million dollars uh chris cabot of equity sports oh baby you sir are a master how did you convince the browns to do this

i mean this is a lot of money for a very underwhelming player. I know he's 24. I think I've been convinced in the past that he was going to emerge. I mean, he did finish at 21 fantasy-wise back in 2022 in 15 games, 67 for 972 and 6. So the Browns were four seasons into his career. He hasn't hit 1,000 yards yet. To get 41 million guaranteed locked in, it just seems unnecessary.

Through 57 career games for Jerry Judy, he has been a top 24 wide receiver 11 times. That would be 19% of the time he was a top 24 player obviously they think very highly of him yeah I mean they they are uh expecting him to come in and play an important role we're we're going to talk about David Njoku in the trending or ending, and this money says that the Browns are expecting, you know, demanding that he is the number two target in this offense. That's what they are wanting to shell out a $58 million deal for a Jag. Yeah, Kyle, you should let us know the Omari Cooper contract situation when we talk about Njoku later, because I'm curious what the future is going to look like.

They also don't have a settled running back situation. Deonta Foreman was added to the Browns, played for the Bears, was benched by the Bears. Well, you skipped a step. Played for the Bears. Yeah. Was really good for the Bears. Yeah, yeah.

And then was benched by the Bears. That's true. I never understood it. They have Jerome Ford. They have Deonta Foreman. They have Nick Chubb on the roster currently. Nick Chubb is, they'd save $11 million against the cap if they cut him. He's recovering from a pretty catastrophic knee injury.

And so... It would save a lot of money. They obviously have a lot of money. I still don't think they're going to do it. I was going to put you on the spot. I'm going to stick with that. I don't think they're letting go of Nick Chubb. If they do, there's a twisted irony of the fact that like Sean Watson and Jerry Judy have never done anything. And Nick Chubb is the record setter yards per carry in the history of the NFL. Like he's right up there with Jamal Charles.

And he's been an awesome Cleveland Brown. I mean, if they were to cut him while he's recovering from this injury, it would be bad PR. And obviously the Browns would just never do anything with bad PR. No. Ever. Can you picture the Watts and Judy billboards? I can.

Just a new identity for the roster? It seems very Browns. Yeah. Mike Williams. There he goes. One-year deal worth up to $15 million with the New York football Jets. How do you feel about this? So Mike Williams, his timeline, he should be healthy.

He should be ready to go. Pretty good. It was a week three injury for his ACL. They're giving him a lot of money to go in and get to play opposite of Garrett Wilson. And they desperately needed a number two. I mean, they didn't – Alan Lazard was not it. There was no one else there that could, like, stretch the field. Right now it'll be Wilson, Mike Williams, Xavier Gibson.

Those will be their top three wide receivers. It's a good wide receiver room when you've got Brees Hall in the backfield and, what, Conk Conk at tight end? Yeah. I think I lean the more positive side for this one-year deal than I imagine others do. Yeah. But maybe not you.

It sounds like you kind of maybe like it. I do kind of like it. I think it's a great landing spot for all parties. Sometimes when a wide receiver shows up, you say, this is good for the quarterback. Or sometimes you say, this is just a great landing spot for the wide receiver. It doesn't really change the quarterback. I think this is really good for the team. I think it's a great landing spot for Mike Williams. The opportunities will be there for him. He plays a very different role than the Garrett Wilson role. And obviously, if you are a believer in Aaron Rodgers and you want

this offense to be good, they needed a number two wide receiver. So I think most people expected them to go after wide receiver in this draft, and they still could. They could add a third. Gibson might not be that guy because he's not that guy. I think he's a pretty good player, but I do think they need to add somebody. And Mike Williams has to come out and say he'll be ready for week one. And whenever you have to come out and say that, recovering from an injury, that means that there's a risk factor. And Mike Williams is the only NFL player who, at the peak of his jump, the gravity on Earth changes.

And he crashes down at a rate of speed not congruent with Sir Isaac Newton. No. It's like another planet. Well, a lot of people don't realize that when he elevates, he gains mass. Oh, okay. So that's why the fall is...

I didn't know you were a scientist. Yeah, well, you know, when you are super into fantasy football spreadsheets, you learn these things. Okay. The Raiders decided to muddy the waters, which we knew they would. Oh, of course they did. You think of this as muddy water?

Oh, yeah, guarantee. They signed Alexander Madison. They have Zemir White. I expect them to also draft a running back somewhere. This is a disgusting backfield to prognosticate. Look, I've never liked Alexander Madison. I'm on record never, ever, ever, ever liking him. That is true.

You've talked very poorly about him for many years, and last year when Mike was very pro-Madison, you basically talked about every other running back in the league is better than him. And yet Minnesota gave him a lot of play and he runs as hard as he can run and that's the kind of player that the Raiders love and Zemir White is not a world beaterater he was probably a bottom third running back starter in the nfl and so i think adding madison just muddies they're gonna run the ball a ton and i think they're gonna do it with multiple people and i don't think that's what i wanted in las vegas now you might believe in zamir white yeah or but i i've watched him play you know who he reminds me

of who alexander madison so you love him. Just fine. They're fine. Madison doesn't suck, okay? There are running backs that straight up are terrible. He's not that. But he's not like a winner. Like, he's not going to help you compared to the opponent. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. He's just a guy. He's a lunch pail. Go to work. Run as hard as they can. He's A.J. He's a lunch pail. Go to work. Run as hard as they can. He's A.J. Dillon. Yeah, that's a good comp. Zemir White, at least, is more athletic.

I think he has more opportunity, and I believe he's the starter here. Now, it's not going to be what we saw with Josh Jacobs, where he gets all the work, all the work, all the work. Then Josh Jacobs goes down. Zemir White steps in those last four games, and then he gets all the work. Then Josh Jacobs goes down. Zemir White steps in those last four games and then he gets all the work. I think this will be a split, but I think Zemir White, having been the incumbent

Pierce, their head coach really liking him. I mean, the four game stretch from weeks 15 to 18. I realize that wasn't bad, but what I'm saying is if Zemir White is what you said he is. Very athletic, which is what I said. No, no, no. The coach really likes him.

Yes. It's nice that he got nothing for 14 weeks. They liked him so much that an inefficient, horrible Josh Jacobs that was doing jack squat, they never even complimented him with Zemir White. They loved him that much. If you listen to Pierce last year during those times, Josh Jacobs was their guy.

People would say, why isn't Zemir White getting play? Yeah, 6% of snaps for 14 weeks. Exactly. And he'd say, Zemir White, we love Zemir White, but when you've got Josh Jacobs, you use Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs is the king here. Afterwards though, this is how the season ended. The season ended with Zemir White getting 21 carries a game. He would have had a 17-game pace of 1,687 rushing yards. So he was not bad, still was involved in the passing game, and then they let Josh Jacobs go, and then they sign a middling guy.

They tried to re-sign Josh Jacobs. Well, sure, but they didn't pay up for him no but my point is is like i think we're just going to disagree on their viewpoint of zamir white so who do you think is the star you think alexander madison's a starter zamir white's the backup no i don't care about that designation for this team i think it's they're both rb2s when you stat so you're just going to give 50 50 yes pretty much yeah i am and and the truth is is uh zamir white they if they wanted him to just be the guy, they had him on the roster. This is the first running back that Antonio Pierce

goes out and gets for himself. So I just think it's a backfield that sounds confusing to me because I know they'll want to run it. And so I think there will be value there. I just don't know where it's going to be yet, and it might get muddier if they add another... I mean, you knew they were going to add someone, right? Oh, yeah. We said it on the show last week when you were gone. But I mean, you have to. They had Amir Abdullah behind them. There was... There's no running backs here. So they could have either gone out and got one of the first running backs in the draft, which would have hurt Zamir White much

more, in my opinion, than them bringing in Alexander Madison. That could be true, depending on which one they would have taken. Rico Dotto, one-year deal with the Cowboys coming back. They have a running back now. That's good. They had none. Who are they drafting? I think they...

The nice thing for them is that they can do it late. I think it'll be – I'll put it this way. I think they're going to draft one later than people think, and I do not think they'll be – Really? I don't think they'll be the first one off the board with it. I think it'll be – they'll be like the third or fourth running back off the board. Do you buy into the team doctor being the Jonathan Brooks doctor?

No. Inside information. If they draft them, they believe that the ACL recovery is going well. No. And to the Cowboys credit, they don't really do the Cowboys stuff anymore that you expect them to do. They don't. Give me an example i mean it wasn't that long ago that they said goodbye

to you know cooper while they signed to a monster deal that's actually uh i mean letting go of cooper is another example they didn't they didn't spend up on him they made a decision to divest of that selection they didn't go this off season and they could have made the splashy move with Saquon or Derrick Henry or somebody like that. That's the kind of old Cowboys that I'm talking about. They spend picks on defense and offensive line and I just don't know if they're going to...

I mean, they might get Jonathan Brooks in the third round or the fourth round. So in that case, they'll be fine. But, I don't know. Will be interesting. I do think whoever they draft is going to be very, very relevant with the step chart. Yeah, it'll be. Right now it's what?

Is Malik Davis still on the roster? Yes. He is. Deuce Vaughn. Yeah, I mean, Jason's point, well received. They're going to need to add somebody that'll compete to be the starter I mean I think that's the headline whoever they add in the draft will compete to be the starter but I do think they like Rico Dowdle and um he may have more juice than than some people think yeah I mean they I wonder what their process was behind the scenes considering

how long it took for them to bring Dowdle back. Yes, they did not win any of these high free agent running back contracts, but I would imagine they were, based on the length of time they took to get anyone back in the door, I would imagine they were having this conversation. Dowdle might have been shopping and didn't find takers either. That's fair. All right, do we have any other news, Brooksy? That's all for now.

Okay. We'll take a quick break and come back with some trending or ending. You know, in retrospect, now that I think about it, because we had a nice spirited debate about Zemir White and the viewpoint of Antonio Pierce

and the Raiders. I do realize now inadvertently it sounded like i like antonio or madison more than zamir white it sounded a little bit no i know just in general really yeah i don't think so because you said i like alexander madison well i did say that part so but i'm the one arguing that he would impact zamemir White. Yeah. So I like Madison less because of how much you like Madison. I just feel like I ended up on the wrong side of the Madison situation.

Well, you love him. He's your dude. Yeah. Alright, let's jump in. Trending or ending. All right. Our illustrious team over here at the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with their incredible dress apparel have put together a list of some trends

that have taken place in recent years. Jason and I will be debating whether we believe these trends will continue or not. So let's begin. Isaiah Pacheco, trending or ending 20 opportunities per game. Very involved Super Bowl champions. He had a huge role to play. He's had the biggest workload since Kareem Hunt for a Kansas City running back in the Mahomes era.

So do we think that Isaiah Pacheco is, I guess, solidified as their dude? That's so hard to say. It's like you need to kind of call your shot now before the NFL draft. They don't have a depth chart. They have one of these NFL depth charts where you go, they have to add someone. They're going to sign a middling veteran that's out there or draft a player. But I think they've got their guy.

I really do. I think that they've just won back-to-back Super Bowls, utilizing him in the playoffs. So I know at the end of the season, Isaiah Pacheco was over 20 opportunities a game. It was a fantastic run to finish the season. But he was so much more than that in the playoffs. 24 attempts, 24 attempts in two games, plus 19 receptions, or I'm sorry, targets through the playoffs. This was a guy who was extremely involved.

It was a massive chunk of this offense. And they won the Super Bowl. Let me read you the best remaining free agents at running back, and you tell me if it matters to Isaiah Pacheco's workload or anything you view about him. Yeah. You already know the answers, no? I'm ready to say no.

Zeke? No. Rashad Penny? No. Oh, you almost pump faked me there. Latavius? No. Dalvin Cook? No. J there. Latavius. No. Dalvin Cook.

No. JK Dalvin. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what do you think? JK Dalvin. No.

I think no. You think no? I think no. Yeah. What if it had been Deontay Foreman? No, I don't think so. I mean, look, all the major running backs. You're going trending.

I am going on the trending side. They will add a running back at this draft. They're going to draft a running back. I will be very surprised based on the Michael P. Ryan and Keontae Ingram being the backups here. Yeah, who was the little guy that everyone wanted to buy into that they drafted? Do you know who I'm talking about?

Remember the micro machine-sized running back that everybody was all in on a couple years ago? I do not remember. Kyle, you've got to remember. Sleuth it. Find it, Kyle. There was a depth chart running back that was tiny that came out, and everybody went crazy about his opportunity, and he did

absolutely nothing and darwin thompson darwin thompson so yeah i mean like the rookies coming in and establishing themselves in a two-time back-to-back super bowl championship offense i think is highly unlikely it's more likely that they would uh get mckinnon back in the door or something like that. I'm with you. Trending. His underdog best ball ADP right now is running back 14. Wow. So where do you think he lands? Last year he finished as the running

back 16, but he missed three games. That being said, it's fair. It's a little unfair to qualify that he missed games because most running backs miss two games. Yeah, but he was also injured in one of them. His best run of finishes came at the back half of the year. I think he's a top 15 running back, so I'm fine with that spot.

Do you agree? Yeah, I do. You still want pieces of the Kansas City offense. I believe that they will throw the ball a little bit more this year. Some of what they did this past season in relying on the run was due to not having the weapons, but a year or two, Rushie Rice adding Hollywood Brown, I think they'll be able to open it up a little bit.

DJ Moore trending their ending top 12 fantasy wide receiver. First time he's ever done it, and he was the wide receiver six okay incredible season from dj moore yet his consistency is still sitting at a c 47 of the time with games above 10 and a half didn't have justin fields for the whole year won't happen for any of the year this year they uh they made the big splash bringing in reliable Keenan Allen. He's the wide receiver 11? That's where he's going in basketball. That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense, which means we both

it's super stupid. Yeah, we're both on ending. We're both on ending. There's no chance DJ Moore is a top 12 wide receiver next year. They had... Oh, but Caleb Williams is going to come in and be the best quarterback of all time. I mean, DJ Moore's a great wide receiver. Yes, I agree. This is not an anti-DJ Moore take.

It's a pro Keenan Allen take. CJ Stroud just had two top 15 wide receivers. It's not happening. It's not happening at all. Keenan Allen is a machine. A rookie quarterback coming in historically with so many. Not historically. i know you i know you lower the sample size to one year historically that happens pretty frequently if if you lower it to one year

you've got a 50 percent uh hit rate uh you were gonna say you know that i push back against that analytical view yeah but i i and and i love your post about pushing back to analytical views as the Solon-only operation, but I genuinely believe, even with the modern NFL, even just looking at the last four years, yeah, you have C.J. Stroud, but you have way more. I mean, every year there's three or four first-round rookies, two to four first-round quarterbacks taken, and they don't usually come through. Bryce Young was the one-on-one taken above C.J. Stroud, and he flat-out sucked.

I will agree. Yes, if you're playing the odds, they're still well below 50-50 that you get that kind of a year. The line set here is trending or ending top 12, so we're both ending on that. But I think 15 is okay. I think he could be at 15. Man, I...

Shane Waldron coming in, passes the ball a ton. They'll probably do a lot of work to further equip Mr. Caleb Williams in this draft, protect him. He extends plays, and when plays are extended, D.J. Moore gets open. I will say that. And D.J. Moore's athleticism will have some monster games. I mean, that's what happened this last year, right? You had D.J. Moore with a 45 fantasy point week against Washington when he went eight for 233. But when you look at how it comes, maybe at the end of

the year, he's the wide receiver 15. You are not going to enjoy the process of getting there. He's not going to be the possession guy ahead of Keenan Allen, I don't think. You could argue that you didn't enjoy a wide receiver six finish last year. Exactly. So I agree with that. I won't draft him at wide receiver 15. If he drops into the actual – Will you draft him above Keenan?

That's really interesting. I think I would prefer to have Keenan Allen, and Keenan Allen will go far later in your startup drafts. DJ Moore is younger, more explosive, sexier. I would rather construct my roster with – I just meant that as handsome. I would rather construct my roster with different explosive young wide receivers that are up near that wide receiver 10, 11, 12, and then

add a reliable Keenan later. Well, let me ask you, will you prefer this player to DJ Moore or not? Trending or ending DK Metcalf two consecutive years outside the top 15 for DK Metcalf not the kind of trend you wanted if you were a dynasty manager of DK.

Last year, wide receiver 16. Year before, wide receiver 18. It's not like he disappears. Always potential for double-digit touchdowns. He was at eight last year, six the year before, but then two double-digit years before that. So they haven't been there since post-Russell Wilson. 79% of his receptions went for a first down.

That was the second among all wide receivers. He's a very go-to type of wide receiver. It doesn't matter if you have Lockett or JSN. He is a go-to third-down receiver, goal-line receiver. Had that stupid, stupid, stupid three-touchdown game against Dallas that no one saw coming, and it was against me. Someone hurt you. Yeah, he did.

But trending or ending, DK Metcalf stays outside the top 15. Well, I'll answer your first question first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. DJ Moore or DK Metcalf? I would way rather have DK Metcalf than DJ Moore. Interesting. DK Metcalf is a better experience to have in our consistency metric. He's a B. He doesn't disappear as often as DJ Moore. And even though, you know, if you

talk, neither quarterback situation is great. A rookie coming in, Caleb Williams, at least you have hope that maybe he turns into, yeah, I mean, he could be. Who knows knows but you have hope like oh he could be awesome right now who's the is it Geno let's say Geno's the quarterback it's Geno they came out and said it so then you've got you've got no hope for some massive explosion

some like this quarterback is going to be absolutely incredible under Mike McDonald like he's just going to take it to the next level. No, Geno's not doing that. 136 targets for D.J. Moore last year, 119 for Metcalf. Very disappointing year for Geno. Yeah, I mean, Metcalf.

That's a team makeup situation. You'll hear us talk about this a lot. If I took a super reliable week in and week out, like if this is not my number one receiver, I don't mind swinging for the DJ more fences here. Um, you know, 1300 plus yards last year, but I, yeah, I think your experience will be more consistent with Metcalf. I wonder what they, are they pretty close? Let me, let me check the consistency for Metcalf. Yeah, he's better. 58.8% of the time with a meaningful performance of 10.5 or more

compared to 47% for DJ Moore. And look, they finished 10 spots apart from each other. So that shows you it's not all in that fantasy finish. And this is the time of the year that that's all people look at. Yeah, they just say, well, he finished as the wide receiver six. We've got a truth series that we do exiting the season. If you haven't listened to that, you can go back and listen to the truth about wide receivers. Part one, part two, we talk about these guys. It's not just how they finish. It's what was

the process and did they help you win games? DJ Moore super helped you win that one game. I mean, you won that game against Washington and weak, whatever, but he hurt you more often than not. So yeah. Now here's the question though trending or anything about not being a top 15 line receiver he'll probably be outside my top 15 they brought back lockett you weren't there last week when we talked about the restructured contract that kind of threw some cold water onto jsn's breakout because it's a lot of committed, guaranteed money to Tyler Lockett. So Metcalf is one of a three-headed monster. He is the biggest, strongest, fastest of them all.

Yeah, I mean, he's been, like, I realize he's been outside the top 15 the last two years, and that can sound like a real poo-poo thing. But he's been the wide receiver 18 and the wide receiver 16. Before that, 12 and 7. He is a top 20 wide receiver. Yeah, if the top 15 are hanging out inside, he's like his face is smashed against the glass. Yeah. He's allowed to go in and talk to the guys a little bit.

Yeah, he's been there before. He doesn't have his own ticket. The bouncer is going to be like, dude, you could come in here. I know you're not. You're allowed. I get it. You played one less game. Right, exactly could come in here. I know you're not. You're allowed. I get it. You played one less game. Right. Exactly.

You know what? For that reason, I'm going to say ending because DK Metcalf is allowed inside the top 15. I think he will be allowed in the building. Okay. All right. And honestly, if you're a bouncer, you let him in anyways. Yeah. He's the bouncer. He's the bouncer for his own. He's like, no, no, no.

I am allowed in. All right. DK Metcalf walks up to the bouncer and he takes the bouncer for his own. I don't care who you want. He's like, no, no, no, I am allowed in. Yeah. All right. DK Metcalf walks up to the bouncer, and he takes the clipboard out of his hand and says, you're not on the list. Okay. And then he hands it back and walks right in. I thought you were going to say he said, I am on the list. Yeah, I see my name.

It's right here. Trending or ending, David Njoku, the line set as a top six fantasy tight end. Will he repeat? He finished at six, but he was the tight end one from week seven on. That's a long run. He wasn't close to the tight end two. He was so dominant. David Njoku, it's really important to realize what happened at the end of last year.

I realize that. Oh, yeah. I know. He got you a title. I mean, if you had him, you won. I mean, he's one of the most rostered championship winners because of what he did the entire second half. He did it through the playoffs.

11-5, 12-10, 7-8, 26-2, 2-3-3. That's fantasy finishes. Wow. It's unbelievable. That's fantasy finishes. Wow. It's unbelievable. He was so good. So now you're saying just top six when he was so dominant. But let's talk about names. Missing pieces.

Let's talk about names. Yeah, let's go through it. You're going to put Kelsey above him. He's coming back. He plays for Mahomes. He's going to be there. Plays for Mahomes. They're the Chiefs, but I get it.

I get it. I get it. Laporta. Laporta, you're going to put above him. Assuming health, you've got to put Mark Andrews above him. That's three spots of the five. Okay, so now he's four. So now

here's the questions. Trey McBride? I would put ahead of David Njoku. If I'm sitting there in a draft today, because of the fact that you're not coming right back with Joe Flacco in Cleveland, yes, McBride's ahead. And now here's to me the final name.

It's going to be Kincaid, right? It is Dalton Kincaid, although you could also throw in George Kittle, who had his awesome stretches as well. All the Ks, Kincaid, Kittle. That's enough. And I would say maybe Pitts know, maybe Pitts explodes. So for me, with the news of Jerry Judy getting this monster contract. Except for he said top six.

He did say top six. Yeah, I'm doing it. You're doing it? Yes, top six. How much of this is your heart? How much of this is? 38%. Loyalty.

Okay, it's a minority. Yeah. I'm still going to take him outside. I'm going to take him outside the top six. Well, how many? I got 10 fingers, right? Yes, you do. And the ring for my championship goes on one of them, right?

Yes. That's the percentage that is my heart. Okay. That amount. Okay. About 10%. 10%. Yeah.

Kincaid's never done it. Pitts has never done it. And this run wasn't three weeks long. McBride has only had half a season andrews can't stay healthy there are easy arguments to make against most of these options i think he can do it i think top six makes sense i definitely think he can do it i also won receptions i also think dalton schultz needs to be talked about you know in those lines as well as as a potential top six guy i i can agree especially with stroud year two um final year of amari cooper's contract part of maybe why they spent the money on judy

and then you brought up judy them wanting him to be the second target here's some breaking news for you um they wanted that from him in denver for every single year of his career. Wants don't always, they're not always realized. I think I want a yacht. Like, I'm not positive because I feel like the upkeep. You don't know if you want a yacht. Well, the upkeep would be bad and I would never use it. You know, we're landlocked here in Arizona. But I still think I want a yacht.

But I'm not going to get a yacht, you know? And so that's like, you want. Where would you store it? Probably in the ocean is my guess, right? I was trying to see if you yachts there's lake yachts if the lake's big enough right like just tahoe they gotta get uh helicoptered in though right oh how do you build them on the water how do you get a yacht to a lake hey let's ask the cruise guy over there um no no no really really really quick because this is so important to me. Yeah. These yachts that are called yachts that are still small boats, they're not yachts.

You're saying that a yacht can't be a yacht unless it meets a size requirement. A size, not just an expense requirement. It's like the Pluto planet situation. Exactly. It's like, oh, that's, yeah, okay, you can call it a planet if you're a kid. Right. Because you don't know the science, but it's not a planet. Right. It's not big enough.

So would you consider stripping yacht status from certain boats? Oh, yeah, for sure. Kids can still call them yachts. But I don't know how they get those to lakes if they are even in lakes. You know, Al, you're sitting here and you think I'm crazy. They can't bring in boats on helicopter? I don't think so. Yeah, I think so.

I'm not an expert, but I don't think they're dropping a yacht in a lake via helicopter they're probably if they do they're not cutting the cord they're not just like okay bombs away yeah i mean that i i think helicopters could play a big role in this whole jason wanting a yacht situation i know people are furiously vetting it back there i'm on have they ever delivered a yacht via helicopter? So the problem is a lot of yachts have helicopter pads. And so when you search for helicopter yacht. I guess they're bigger than I thought, huh?

They must be big. The helicopter lands on the yacht. Yeah, no, no. It's not carrying the yacht. If that's true. Hmm. You're going to need like those. How big are yachts, man?

What are those big like two propeller they're called uh two propeller helicopters no they're not no what are you talking about yeah i'm talking about the the helicopters that have like the the propellers in the back and the front like the big military yachts can be delivered by helicopters to provide flexibility for business operations yeah but those are pluto yachts okay all right called tandem rotor thank you tandem so really it is two yeah i didn't know there's not a secret word for a helicopter no like if it's got two rotors it doesn't count as a helicopter no i thought it had like a like a name like oh no i did i was thinking of a chinook that's it yeah that's it that's what

that's what i was that's the name I was looking for. All right. Where were you on the David Njoku top six? I'm out. I think he's right there. I definitely think he can finish there. But with the Jerry Judy signing and the other up-and-coming tight ends, the young guys, the McBrides, the Kinkades,

and obviously Laporta that I have ahead of them i'll push them out all right i won't push them out i'll give you i'll give you a chance out there to consider the yacht takes as we take another break and come back in just a minute it's a pretty good point you made about the like if it if it has a helipad on it, maybe it can't be lifted by it. That means they got to build it, right? Like a lake yacht then has to be built on site. Can you drive it in? They can tow them.

Wait a minute. How do you make a turn? Hold on, hold on. You just told me they got a helipad on the thing, and that means that the helicopter can't lift it. But you can tow. How many cars can you fit on one of those yachts? Hundreds? Thousands? a helipad on the thing and that means that the helicopter can't lift it but you can tow how many cars can you fit on one of those yachts hundreds thousands not thousands millions you're telling me you could tow a yacht but you can't carry a yacht in the air it there's different size yachts

it depends what size what made you the yacht authority you You asked me. No, that'll do it. All right. Also, the Chinook is bowing, so maybe don't lift a boat with that. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Yeah, I mean, watch out. You just got to make sure the plug doors have four bolts. That's all.

Okay. All right. I want to do one more trending or ending here before we close it down. Maybe get some mailbag. It's a tough one. Travis Etienne has a top 10 running back. He was number three last year. On the back of a ton of touchdowns in the first half of the year.

Which I give him all the credit for in the world for doing. He did do it. It's not easy to score a ton of touchdowns in the first half of the year. Which I give him all the credit for in the world for doing. He did do it. It's not easy to score a bunch of touchdowns. The disproportionality between the first and second half was tremendous. The disproportionality between top 16 defenses and bottom 16 defenses was tremendous. He was almost 10 points different between the two. The first half of the season for him before the bye week,

he averaged 18.8 fantasy points per game, was absolutely outstanding. The last nine games of the year after their bye week, 11.4, was very, very disappointing. I mean, Doug Peterson said they wanted to reduce his workload, but they also tried to do that last year. It didn't work. No. I don't think Tank was ready to step up, Tank Bigsby.

Yeah, and he's not going to be. He's not going to be ready. You don't think there's any chance that he did? There is a chance, yes, but it's low likelihood to me. Maybe don't start with some goal line fumbles this year, Tank. I was disappointed in a lot of what I saw from Travis Etienne, sub-four carry, and you saw it on the field. There were plays where I just kept expecting him to break the tackle, hit the edge, and he didn't

get there. He did score a ton of touchdowns and was a true volume play. I mean, this guy was on the field 73% of the snaps. I think it won't be a bad idea to lower his volume a little bit and allow his efficiency to increase. I am in on Travis Etienne, and I will have him as a top 10 running back. I think the Jaguars still see him as the centerpiece of that running back room, and they're going to need him in the offense, even though I'm not a believer in Trevor Lawrence as a superstar Trevor Lawrence is an average NFL quarterback and that's good enough to have a good offense so he'll have touchdown opportunities again just like you said like you don't you're not holding it against him that he scored a bunch of touchdowns that's also yeah that's pretty cool it's a good feature and

they seem committed to this running back room I don't expect them to add anybody else. They re-signed Dearness Johnson. Tank Bigsby's on the roster and Travis Etienne is there. So, I mean, if they added Zeke and you'd worry about goal line or something stupid, then that would change my view. But I don't think they're going to add anybody. He had 340 opportunities this last season. If they were to take that number down to 300, I think you'll still have a top 10 running back. They were also to, you know, he had a lot of work to do. 31st ranked offensive line when it came to run blocking. Submarine their season. Yeah, and he is good.

I don't want to papoo him saying. You did a little papooing. You said he didn't get the edge, and that really hurt. Yeah, and that's why I want to say I do believe he is a good, talented, still young enough, explosive running back. He's 25 years old. So top 10 trending or ending? Trending.

I'll have him as a top 10 running back. It's a hard bar because you can't get hurt to do it, obviously. You really can't. There's so many running backs out there. You know, you're going to be talking about, right now, the underdog best ball. I'm going to read you the order. Okay. CMC.

Yeah. Bijon. Breeze. Okay. Gibbs. Okay. That's my mistake. Kyron.

There's the answer. Taylor. Taylor's six. Yeah. Saquon's seven. I would take all six of those ahead. Yep. Saquon's seven.

I'd take Saquon. HN8. Okay. HN. HN. Well, that's a ahead. Yep. Saquon 7. I'd take Saquon. 8chan 8. Okay. 8chan. 8chan. Well, that's a website. Don't go there. No, don't.

Is it? Is it? I thought it was 4chan. Both of them probably exist. Jacobs. Josh Jacobs. Jingleheimer Schmidt. I mean, what do you mean Josh Jacobs?

What are the Jacobs? I don't know, Brandon. He's back. All right, number 10 is Etienne behind Jacobs. But behind Etienne is Henry in Baltimore. I'd take Etienne over Henry. Rashad White, though, at 12. That's a tough one.

So for me, this confirms. That was very quick for you on the uptake to go to the vintage Brandon Jacobs. I knew you'd like that. There's a couple, like Josh Jacobs will be behind Etienne for me for sure. Devon Achan, there's reasons why you would want and prefer someone like Travis Etienne over Achan. I see Etienne in the same kind of tier as Saquon there as the running back seven. He's absolutely worthy of being the seventh pick. I wouldn't take him ahead of the six guys that you first laid out. All right.

I think we told you that Brooks would take care of the mailbag. Oh, yes. But I would never. No, I would do that. Yeah. Go do this, Kim. Mailbag. Mailbag. Oh, man. Like a blow horn yeah what's a what's a blow horn i don't know what's an air horn um maybe that's what i meant that was that was good brooks

thank you nailed it you did oh and the confidence you'll love to see it brooks you do um that's a that's a man that um oh a blow horn's like those is that that is a thing yeah that's. That's a man that... Oh, a blowhorn's like those. That is a thing. Yeah, that's a thing. That's very loud. Alright, if you have a question for the show, you can go to the website thefantasyfootballers.com. That's also where you can find the Ultimate Draft Kit right now. And you can dial our voicemail hotline with a question, 302-464-TFFB.

We do have a voicemail question waiting for us, Jason. Oh, fantastic. Dare I click this button? I'll allow it. Hey, ballers. Love the show. This is Trey calling in. I am the commissioner of the Dynasty League,

and I really need help with the, I guess, schedule for the offseason. When should the league open back up? When should we be able to drop and add players? What's the timeline from the time the Super Bowl ends to before the draft? Thanks, guys. So I can speak to what we do, which is what you should also do. Okay. When the championship game is over and a champ has been crowned,

this is week 17 in our league, so you're going into week 18 of the season. We are not into playoffs yet. The Super Bowl has not arrived, and it's next season, baby. You can pick players up. You're in the off-season mode. drop guys you could trade it's all back active because that's the entire point of a dynasty league is to have fun and be able to do offseason transactions that's how we do it yeah and i i guess i don't i don't mind if uh you keep it closed down until the super bowl and then after the super bowl's over you reopen it back up.

Just a forced breath? Just a breath, yeah. Probably not a lot of action happening in the post-championship, pre-Super Bowl period of time anyways. The truth is there's no actual wrong answer. If you wanted to wait until the NFL draft and then open it up, know the draft kicks off the next season it's just what your league wants yeah ultimately what we're i think what jason's trying to convey is that like what makes the dynasty league great is the fact that you have activity year round you can be thinking about your team if you want to

people don't have to be hyperactive for the couple weeks after the super bowl if they don't want to there's not a lot to do so yeah but leading leading up to the draft you you really want to be able to like trade picks call your shot i mean there's been tons of free agent signings for us since the super bowl yeah i mean just little cursory um flyers that you're saying our weight our waivers yeah our own waivers in our own league we people have added uh what colby parkinson who got picked up for a bigger deal than expected and um it's just important that you make sure you relay the rule set yes to everybody with advanced notice you can't just open it up quietly and be like let me get all the guys that's right also um you know

fab is operated differently if you might be on a waiver system but if you're on a fab system where you've got a free agent acquisition budget, we personally have an in-season and an off-season budget. So basically it's $100. That's your allotment that you get. We, we on kickoff, when that ball is kicked from the tee, we reset the in-season to 100 for waiver transactions. And then when the champion is crowned and we start the next league year, we reset it to 100 for the offseason.

YouTube question. LJ wants to know, late to the party, do you have any openings for the Listener League? We do have openings to the Listener League. We have, let's see, there's 14. It's a 14-team league. Yeah. We've already given away one. And we're three of those teams. And we're three of those teams.

And we're three of those teams. And there's a champion, unfortunately, that wasn't us. So that makes it 10, and we've given one away. So that makes it nine. Okay. Nine spots left. $1,600 a spot. My Zell is... No, no, no, no, no.

These are way more valuable than that. We will open it up at some point nearer to the season. Pay attention for submissions. We'll say it once on the show and once only, and then we'll tell you how to submit it, and you can apply. And then we do contests as well. As you say, if you pick up the Ultimate Draft Kit, you're going to give yourself an opportunity.

I'm going to say it like that. Yeah, I mean, we do a couple of giveaways based on people that have supported us and gotten the ultimate draft kit. And every time that we do that giveaway, anyone who has previously got it is in it. So we just did a giveaway. And if you bought the UDK, but you didn't win that giveaway, well, you're entered in the next giveaway as well. YouTube, question from Adrian. Dynasty question. What's the latest – oh, I'm sorry. What is the least you would take for Kyron Williams in a Dynasty League?

Jason is probably wearing, like, Kyron Williams underpants. Yes, I am. Just his face. It's a cartoon. It's a cartoon. It's just a drawing. Let's not get into details. I don't want to know where any of the graphics are on's a cartoon. It's just a drawing. Let's not get into details. I don't want to know where any of the graphics are on the underpants.

It's just a pattern. I'll show you after. No, okay. What's the least you would take? I mean, that's a little bit of a strange question. I think it all depends on your view of Kyron. Well, your view of Kyron and, you know, if you're saying like rookie picks, your view of the incoming rookie class, right?

Kyron Williams was the running back six and didn't play five weeks of the NFL season last year. He had 1,100 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns. The offense is the same. He was just so heavily utilized. If you looked at weeks 12 through 17, he would have averaged 371 attempts for almost 2,000 yards and 17 touchdowns. Now, he doesn't have the draft capital or the contract to say he is the future of the Rams no matter what. Agreed. It's a fifth round pick. He's not been paid big money. And that is your risk. That is the future of the Rams no matter what. Agreed. It's a fifth-round pick.

He's not been paid big money, and that is your risk. That is the risk you accept with Kyron Williams in a Dynasty League versus, I don't know, Saquon, right? Like if you put those two players up, which one would you rather have in a Dynasty League? I think it's okay to answer either way. Yeah, I think it's okay. For me, it is an easy Kyron, but you can make an argument that the draft capital

coming into the NFL, the new massive contract and the history should side you on the, on the, on the Saquon side. But the question is like, so let's put this to a rookie draft pick the lowest that I would take. If this is a non super flex startup, I would not trade Kyron for Caleb Williams. So whatever that is, that's like the 106 usually right now. I would not trade him for Troy Franklin. I would not trade him for Brian Thomas Jr. So for me, the lowest I would go is probably 103 with those big three wide receivers. Yeah. There you go. It'll be be interesting I just have this I think Kyron could Are you more anti-Kyron?

I know I'm like crazy pro-Kyron I think I'm like normal Kyron maybe And you're just like crazy But I guess the question is What is normal? What do you think the average person thinks about Kyron? I think that the average person is pretty into Kyron Yeah

I guess I'd be slightly down from there, like a step. Like if there's a certain, you're on a staircase, you're at the top of the staircase. Sure. And the average person's in the middle of the staircase. I'm just like a step below you. You're like a step below looking up because you're ready to, you are ready to leave the staircase. I'm willing to take some steps down.

You're ready to, you want a head start so that if people start exiting, you're like, I'm out the door first. Cam Akers, Todd Gurley, Sonny Michel, these were leading rushers for an entire season for the Rams. So there is a little bit. The part of me that has me two steps below the middle is the part that says, well, Shanahan makes it work with anybody. And that part tells me that McVay could get – McVay can produce a number one running back

with Cam Akers at the end of the season or Sonny Michelle or you know Darnell Anderson but Kyron like I think Kyron's pretty pretty darn good so if they're if they're committed to him I think he's top five that's the that's the real question is is are they committed to him and I that's where I'm in because I am my belief is that they're fully committed. Because when they were fully committed to Gurley, he was the running back one. Then the next year he was the running back one. He was the guy for a long stretch.

Obviously the wheels fell off. First round draft pick. For sure. No, a lot easier to be committed to Gurley than to Kyron Williams. Not just first round draft pick. If you want to throw the negatives out there, the yellow and red flags, his body size is not one that makes you go, eh, he can handle a workhorse role for three years.

Maybe he can't. What's funny is I don't think Kyron is – I think Kyron is above average at several things, but I don't think he's super great at one. He's not the most explosive athlete. He's not the best pass catcher in the one. He's not the most explosive athlete. He's not the best pass catcher in the league. He's not the best goal linebacker in football. He doesn't have his superpower, like H& Speed.

No, he just does a bunch of stuff pretty darn good. Yeah. Well, pretty darn well. Superman does good. Yeah. Let's close it out here because I did want to talk about this player, and maybe we end with a spicy take. But YouTube question from Jacob Noonan.

What do you all think about Jordan Addison's dynasty value without Kirk Cousins? And I have a hot take. Oh, okay. All right. Then I know what your take is. You do. I think so. I know my take. If you can predict what I'm going to say. Okay. All right. Then I know what your take is. You do. I think so. If you know my take, if you can predict what I'm going to say. Okay.

Because I'll tell you, I'll give you a hint. My take is that I view a certain less liked player more than Addison. Oh, a certain less liked player. Yeah. I mean, I couldn't guess that, but I'm going to say I figured your take would be something like Jordan Addison as Jahan Dotson or Jordan Addison. Oh, okay. Who's your player?

Jamison Williams. Okay. I think Jamison Williams, I might prefer him to Addison in a dynasty league. But the question is, is that pro-Jamison Williams or is that anti-Jordan Addison? A little bit of both, baby. Okay. It's a little bit of both. I like Jameson more than the average man. I know that Kyle has, I mean, he might have turned off his microphone

and his headset and quit the show by now just hearing that. But yeah, I'm worried about Addison. I think that's the headline you wanted, which is, I'm worried about when the best deep passer in the league departs. I'm worried about you. When it's Sam Darnold, I'm worried about you.

When you're never going to be the one, I'm worried about you. Yeah, I mean, it's a little early to know who the quarterback is. Obviously, right now it is Sam Darnold, but all the rumors and the transactions that they've made. Okay, make it J.J. McCarthy. Now how excited are you for Addison? I would be slightly less excited with J.J. McCarthy than... Than even Darnold.

Than Darnold. But not from a dynasty perspective. From a dynasty perspective, I would love if they get J.J. McCarthy. I think McCarthy's good and can produce a lot. I also believe Jordan Addison is a very good wide receiver. He is very good. Do you think Mooney's a good player? I think Mooney is a good player, but nowhere near what Addison is.

I don't think Mooney is as good a route runner, as good at getting open as Addison. Addison's season was pretty wild because you didn't really – you had like two – A ton of touchdowns. Yeah, you had like two. Ton of touchdowns. Yeah, you had two numbers. His whole season, independent of a quarterback change, I'd be saying, like if he did trending or anything for Addison,

I'd be like, out. Because 10 touchdowns. Yeah, that's not a sticky stat. Hard to repeat. He's a 5'11", 175 receiver. He's a first-round pick. I mean, he's very good. I'm not saying he's not.

It's just his consistency was not there. He played a lot of games without Justin Jefferson. I mean, six through 12, he missed. He was without Jefferson. And his performances were like 63-1 118. I mean, a lot of those

Kirk went down in week 8 I believe. So, you know, if you look at the first 8 weeks when you had a quarterback and obviously Kirk's gone. So that's important. But those first 8 weeks, which were the first 8 weeks of Jordan Edison's career do you remember where Jordan Addison was before Kirk went down wide receiver what what's your guess for the first eight weeks I'm guessing he

was the wide receiver which is half the season I'm gonna guess 10 you guessed it on the oh really yeah the wide receiver 10 yeah he had an insane uh week seven obviously yeah he was he was uh looking great now how many touchdowns did he have in 10 in I, obviously. Yeah, he was looking great. How many touchdowns did he have in eight weeks? It was a 17-game pace of like 14 and a half touchdowns. No, he's a good player. I'm worried about him. That's all. I would be worried as well.

I am very pro-Addison as a talent. I am very anti-Addison as a fantasy-relevant player this season, especially once Hawkinson comes back. You've got Jefferson, and you've got a poor quarterback. And I'm anti-Addison, anti-Madison, anti-Radisson. I hate the hotel. Oh, man. It's the worst.

I will not go there. Because of the Addison. The name. Yeah. Yeah. All right, that'll do it for today's episode of the podcast. Thank you for joining us. Back next week, the trifecta returns.

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