Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Underrated or Overrated + THE MEGALASHOW RETURNS! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/16

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

Fantasy Football show for June 16th, 2026. Underrated or Overrated decisions! Will Ladd McConkey bounce back in 2026? Is Bo Nix overrated? Plus, zero RB draft strategy, why league median is great, and a big announcement! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. 2026 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.com Get MEGALASHOW tickets at BallersLive.com Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers Tuesday, June 16th. Welcome into the show. Big show today, underrated and overrated. Big day. Big day. The big day.

The big day, the big show. The big announcement. Jason wants me to get right into it. This is so important. Announcements. Hold on. Don't I have a button for announcements? Announcing!

The trumpeters have arrived and we teased it. We said there'd be a big announcement on Tuesday, so we'll get right into it. It's back. The Megalus show, a live event. Yeah. The Fantasy Footballers Live. It is back Friday, August 28, the Van Buren in Phoenix, Arizona, presented by Sirius XM and sponsored by GMC and Petsmart. The Megalus show is back.

It is your opportunity out there, Foot Clan, to come to the event of the off season as we get ready for the kickoff to the 2026 NFL season. And those watching on YouTube, you can get some. Oh, look at that B roll. I believe this was the last. That's not B roll. That's a roll. Oh, nice. Nice, Mike.

The Megalus show event we did was in Los Angeles. This year it's in Phoenix, Arizona at the Van Buren. It's our only live show for this year. It's in our home city, state area. Everyone needs to come. Everyone needs to be there. We want you there. I mean, and you can see, again, if you're on YouTube,

you can see some of the highlights from the last time we did a Megalus show. It is a live taping of the podcast. So you will be a part of a live recording of the show. Live taping. This guy. Yeah. It is. Oh, we're putting it on the film.

We're going to get the reels out. You know, you know, talk about your VHS and your beta tapes. People don't say, Al, you don't say that anymore? It's going to be a live recording. Okay, Al. It's not that, no, people say it. Also, people over the age of. I will get you a tape of the event.

There are a lot of big special things at that show at the live event. We want people there. This is a bigger venue for us. You know, we've done shows in Phoenix in the past. We are doing the Van Buren. We're doing the Van Buren. It's a beautiful venue. Awesome venue.

I was just there. Where are you? Last night? Two nights ago. Two nights ago. Yeah. For a show? Or were you scoping?

No, I was at a show. I was getting down with the R-X bandings. So listen, I didn't say the URL enough. If you want to go to the show, there will be limited tickets available. Go to Ballers Live.com. Again, the show date is Friday, August 28th. It's at the Van Buren in Phoenix, Arizona. there will be limited tickets.

You can grab them right now. Like I said, we've done this a couple of times in Los Angeles. We're doing it in our hometown here. The fantasy footballers live, the Megalus show itself. Travel out here, great golf courses in Arizona, people. Oh, gosh, this is true. Look, the fantasy footballers are going to be there. And if you're not familiar with the Van Buren, literally right next to us,

right next to the building, there's Ziggy's Pizza, which is, it is elite New York style. And then right next to that, There is a pinball bar. Oh, I've heard about that. Oh, I was just there too, really? Yeah, but that's right up your alley. Dude, we'll be there.

It's going to be awesome. August 28th. Shout out to SiriusXM, GMC and Petsmart for helping us get this done. Ballerslive.com. You can check that out. Let's jump into some news. News and notes from around the league. The Broncos and head coach Sean Payton agreed to terms on a five-year extension going through

2030. Sean Payton's staying in Denver. Makes sense. Makes sense. Broncos head coach Sean Payton said Bo Nix will be a full go at training camp. But the question on Bo Nix is, is he overrated or underrated? Because we're going to answer that one on today's show. Stay tuned. Oh, no, that's on today's show. Yes, sir. Uh-oh.

Yeah, we have a-rated. A really fun segment today because we have to draw a line in the sand on all these questions. and unfortunately our staff is doing a good job and making the questions very, very hard for today's underrated and overrated. I can tell you some of my answers, all of my answers, will be made immediately when the question is asked. You have not previewed? I have briefly previewed, but I was really back and forth on some of them.

The Panthers agreed to terms of Jalen Coker, three-year, $35 million extension. This is a former undraft of three-agent. Every time I've watched Jalen Coker play football, I've been impressed. Like I just took him, you know, recently in one of our mock drafts, kind of just like, hey, don't forget that we got Jailen Coker over there. It's a pretty big commitment. It is. Like this deal is good for you, man.

Good for you for getting that shmoney. And he really is. He has a player that we, I don't think we've seen the best of Jalen Coker just yet. You know, very, only what's that? I said, I hope not. 11, well, yes, as the Panthers hope as well, because he's only played two years, 11 games in each of the two years. His rookie year was 478, 478 yards. Like, that's his high, but.

He only started three games last year and four the year before? The Panthers have seen enough of Jalen Coker, and hopefully that means they've seen enough, Xavier Ligette. Well, and they drafted Brazil, right? Yes. In the wild card playoff game against the Rams, 12 targets for Coker, 9 for 1, 3rd. 34 and 1. Pretty impressive. What else do we have? Gricorke-Marit sitting out of OTA is due to a soft tissue issue.

Yeah. What's the headline there, Ketron Allen? I've seen some... I've seen some... I think... Hype train on that. Like, Rashad White is going to end up as of just a mega value. Because even, you know, we had the...

Well, hold on the whole lot. Let me hit the button for him, at least. We got Bill Kroski Merritt over there. And, you know, at least what I'm reading through, you're trying to, all these coaches are saying a lot of things these days. And he's still developing. And they had a lot of glowing things to say about Rashad White. So who's still developing? Bill. As in like we.

Not Rashad White. No, as in. That's what I thought you were saying. Oh, no, no. I'm saying. He's developed. I'm saying they're like, they're looking at Bill Kroski-Mir and saying that we got to improve on these things. Gotcha.

Where meanwhile, then Rashad White comes in. and again, maybe not a superstar, but he can do everything. And he might end up being. He's perfect for certain types of builds this year. I mean, right now he's going on like the 13th round. He'll be a double-digit round guy because nobody wants it. Wouldn't it be similar to last year the way we were viewing like Echler at this point in time? I mean, Echler was not at his prime, but we all knew he versatile, knows how to do a veteran.

Pass catcher. Yeah. Cowboys wide receiver, George Pickens, did report to mandatory minicamp after sitting out the OTAs. He's going to get his physical. He's there, so he does not get fined. Yeah, a lot of guys are doing that right now. Show up. Don't get fined. Playing on the franchise tag. So we have a month, I believe July 15th training camp. Kyle can check that. No, the long-term extension deadline for franchise tag players. I do want to read this quote because Andy Reid said if he, he's,

was asked if Rashi Rice will be ready for the start of training camp. His quote was, I think he will be. He gets out of jail next week. We'll see where he goes. He'll be back up here and working. It's always good when your players are out of jail. That's really important for getting on the field. Yeah.

So I don't think we have any other news. I mean, we got the big announcement out of the way. We got the news out of the way. You guys want to get into the main segment? Ballerslive.com. Oh, yeah, do that as well. Underrated or overrated. Okay, various topics, not just players, but there will be players mixed in.

There will be draft strategies mixed in. We're going to do a little underrated, overrated. We did it last year. Whether you're watching, you're listening, we'll let you know what's going on. But we're going to bring up a couple of topics. And we'll decide what we truly believe about these ones, at least in the moment here. Man, this first one is so hard. So why don't you introduce the first one, Jason?

So the first one that we're going to decide whether, and they're not all players, but this first one is, it's Ladd-McConkey. Right now we've got to decide if we think going into 2026, he is being overrated or underrated. And it could go either ways. I mean, right now, where he's being rated is. Are you looking for his ADP? Yeah, he's back of the fourth. He's at the four-five turn. wide receiver 20.

This is really hard because. Don't do your analysis yet. You got to give your thumb first. Do we, you want to, yeah. Yeah. We go one, two, three, and then we show it. And then you give your reasoning. My gosh.

Hold on. Yeah. Ladd McConkey. How do you spell that, Mike? You give him more time. L-A-D-D. Okay. All right.

I think I'm going to go with this one. All right, here we go. You know what you got to do, man. All right. Three, two, one. Dang it. Oh, Andy. Dang it.

So just for the listening audience, Mike went overrated. Jason went overrated. I threw up the underrated. I was going to lean into my villain arc right now. Well, that has to hurt Jason. It hurts so much because. Yeah, it hurts me as well. You want to know what the difference was to me?

The presence of Keenan Allen on that roster right now? Yes. I think it is a pendulum swing, right? Like I think we all would have said before the draft, we would have held up underrated. Before, or sorry, before the first season, his rookie season. Yes. I think we liked Ladd McConger. Oh, yeah, sure, for sure.

Then I think after the first season, we knew that he was going to have to perform at a really high level relative to draft cost. Maybe we would have gone overrated at that point. But I guess I think he's 24 years old. And if there's no Keenan Allen, I think maybe you could see him return to somewhere much closer to the wide receiver 12 finished from 24 than the wide receiver 28 finish of last year. Let me just explain. The difference between

a year we were thrilled with and a year we were unhappy with is 12.5 points per game as a rookie and 9.2 points per game as a sophomore. All the major numbers went down. I think we all understood he was a huge bust in the draft. But I like Mike McDaniel.

I like no Keenan Allen there and then I'll change it to overrate it if he's back. But this is, I mean, he's in select company still. Over the last decade, he's one of seven wide receivers with 200 targets, 19 under receiving yards and 13 touchdowns in the first two years. There's only been seven guys that have done that. I mean, this is a soft underrated. Yeah, as a prospect, I think he is.

What did you say he was being drafted? I'm sorry. Wide receiver 20. Like the four or five turn. Oh my gosh, that's right between 12 and 28. Right in the middle. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

Like exactly the middle. Here's the issue. I think as a prospect, as a wide receiver, I think he's underrated. I wish he was more vocal and a squeaky wheel. I mean, it's been talked about like in the room. He's a quiet guy. He is not a vocal leader. He's not a diva.

I need this guy to get some diva in him and demand the ball and say, I want it. Because if he did that, he would get open. He would get the ball. You do well. My biggest issue is simply this. the two wide receiver sets are going to be massively important on the chargers this year. This is a Mike McDaniel system that's going to come in. They brought in Najoku.

They have Gadsden. They use a fullback. Their personnel groupings with two wide receivers are going to go way up. And for the wide receivers on the field, that's a good thing. So if Lad is out there in all two wide receiver sets, whole baby, Andy will be right. He is being underrated right now as a wide receiver 20. He is awesome. However, only...

Me and 20 is such a smart spot for people to draft him. Only 10% of his routes last year came with two or fewer wide receivers on the field. So hopefully this is a Keenan Allen gone situation. This is why I love Quentin Johnston. It sounds so weird to say. He's the only guy that we know for sure is out there in two-waters. Adding Nijoku was a sure-fire guarantee.

We're going to get a lot of two-wide receiver sets. Njoku and Gadsden will be out there and we'll get too wide. It's hard for me to look at, like Mike McDaniel, he had some guys you wanted to bring into the offense, right? And I'll let you jump in, Mike, with your thoughts. But he had some guys he wanted to bring in, right? You brought in the running back

to play behind. Keaton Mitchell. Keaton Mitchell. He had certain players and a fullback. All right? It's just it would be shocking to me if Mike and Daniel is like... He was the, Brennan Thompson was the wide receiver. Apparently he was demanding he wanted that speed. When you look at the roster as it stands,

now with no Keenan Allen. It's hard for me to say Mike McDaniel, as much as we think of him on the offensive side of the ball is going to do a lot to keep Ladd McConkey off the field and not a part of the offense. But Mike, you said overrated as well. I don't like the draft price. It's such a strong assumption of draft capital that Ladd McConkey for sure is the guy. And he, he, he, in my belief of of the player, it should be him. But the fact that we had last year, like Keenan Allen is I mean this is a pro's pro but you're a second round rookie who just put up 1150 yards performs in the playoffs and then they're just like yeah but Keenan Allen you know we got Keenan Allen in his 30s we're going to play him over you that is I will say this it's very weird Keenan Allen targets per route run was significantly better than lad keen and Allen yards per route run last year was also significant yeah but Keenan Allen yards per route run last year was also significant yeah Keenan Allen's a goat. But it's like, man, if you can't beat out a 30-year-old Keenan Allen, that's just...

The draft, I wanted to look at out. The draft price for Laib McConaughey. Do you remember where it was last year? Because I have it in front of him. Oh, yeah. It was top 15 wide receiver. The draft community was hot for a lad. Like wide receiver 12?

Every platform he was 11. Yeah. He was 11. I mean, that was around... Because he was a rookie wide receiver who had just put over, put up over 1100 yards. Yeah, I do agree with you guys. There's a lot of risk there. This is one of those training.

situations we need to watch closely because he's not worth the 20th spot if he's not out there in too wide he's just not it's just like the ADP wise i know you get you guys aren't in on as zay as much as I am but right after lad is zay and jamison Williams and devonte smith who i wonder if his ADP ends up jumping do you hear the latest rumor of that team is it dontavian wicks related no it's Tyree kill related oh i've seen i had not i had seen some rumors about like is that the place that Tyree Killen's up landing they go they trade AJ brown they get a lot of draft capital they draft McKay Lemon and Stowers but maybe they feel like they need to interesting you know the last little bit off of Donate Smith the I think Smith's

ADP is going to go up but no the last thing I was reading for beat reporters was saying how with lemon because lemon is banged up like Wix was clearly the the current plan to replace AJ Brown they may see catching the ball I will look probably I don't know but Yeah, it's practice. So Smith and then Abuka and then Tara McLaurin to finalize the point of where Lad's going, his AP. It's just, it's really tough when. I think that's a compelling point because I think other than Jameson there, you could make the argument that like Jameson's not out there as much as Ladd.

It's like even if they're in, okay, Ladd's the guy. Lad's in too wide. It's huge in him. What's the percentage chance that Ladd outscores huge? Very high. I don't know about that. To me. I would say it's more, but how high?

Like fourth round versus free? Kuge could do it with touchdowns. They could have 22 catches. Everything is 80p for me for a lad. Right now it does seem like he is rated. Like he is perfectly rated. Yeah, the community has done a perfect job of like I think he will be, I think he will be right around 20, frankly, so you're not getting a deal.

We'll take a break and we'll get in some more. All right. We did our first underrated, overrated. The second one is home road splits. So how much do you care about home road splits for a player? Home road splits, underrated or overrated. Okay. I've got your...

I've got mine. I've got mine. Three, two, one. All right, we got Andy and Jason with overrated. Mike with underrated. I will say this. If you had told me this was like dome out. door splits, I would have answered differently.

Yeah, for me, why I think home road splits are overrated is because I think it really only impacts one position. You're not really going to be making massive starts, like decisions on your wide receivers, on your running backs based on. Like, if you've got a running back, you don't really get a chance of be like, well, you can be more excited. Oh, he's at home. You know, so great, maybe he'll do better, but you're going to start him. The quarterback is like, okay, I'm streaming the position. I need to know. And then I'm looking at home road splits. I am and I think they can be valuable there. But the big truth is they kind of, it's chaos. And chaos usually comes back to normal. So even guys who for a while have big home road splits,

oftentimes then it evens out. You see that with Jared Goff. Like, you know, in 2022, he was a plus 10 points a game more at home than on the road. Last year it was, you know, four points. The year before, 3.4. Yeah, I agree. The chaos does, you know, we have stats that they regress to the mean and things like that. But I'm just saying, I'm speaking more of like one-offs of like when I'm doing my analysis. I would much rather my offense be at home. Like I want that home cooking with the refs. I want the crowd to be quiet when my players are at home. You know, auxiliary guys just, they're much better at home.

This is just part of competitive sports. Is that something you actionably, you. You do start sit decisions a lot based off of that? I would say a... Is that a flex spot thing? A streaming quarterback thing? Yeah. I lean into it.

I mean, I really... I do pay close attention to when teams are in controlled weather environments. Yes. Which, as a person who still enjoys watching games that have chaos... Not with your fantasy players. I still predictability changes when I don't have to worry about swirling winds or rain or sleet or snow, even if it's fun to watch. I do play

I pay close attention to that that will be a difference maker for me frequently is if I think my guy's going to be in a controlled environment where it's very you know yeah I mean we look at this

home road we look at dome games we look at obviously defensive matchups a lot those are all things that go into the start sit tool every single week yeah you look at everything

but I would say that the home road I agree Mike obviously I prefer my guy at home than on the road unless you're Tiger Hill who always dominates on the road.

So weird. You know, but at the same time, when I'm looking at picking up a matchup or making a start of the week or whatever, or if I'm building the DFS lineup, I think the defensive matchup I would put above it. The Vegas over under I would put above it. You know, those type of things. So I just think it's not that huge. Zero running back draft strategy.

Underrated or overrated, if you don't know what that is, managers kind of drafting and avoiding running backs in their early rounds, bet on a bunch of guys later that have the opportunity to step up into roles that matter. And it's leaning into the predictive nature of the chaos.

The running back position is the it's the position that just, they get hurt. And they, it's to project a full 17 games for any running back is just you shouldn't do it. You should never project 17. Well, and if you did that,

this last year, it worked really well. Yes. It really did. But it is chaotic. So let's, this one is, this one is, this one is equally hard. Is this one tough for you? It's, it's not tough, but I hate my answer. All right. Underrated, overrated. Zero RB strategy. 321. Underrated, baby. Okay, I'm the only one that answered overrated. Both of you guys said underrated. And the year really matters. You've got to be paying attention to the, like,

Zero running back, you know, shout out again to Sean Siegel, anti-fragility, this type of stuff. It's the market and knowing who's, you know, where you're investing so much in your first-run running back, it's the position that gets hurt the most. It's a risk-reward, right? Because, you know, everything of Christian McCaffrey last year, the entire discourse is just, does Christian McCaffrey get hurt? because if he doesn't get hurt, then he is the greatest pick in fantasy football.

If he does get hurt, we all go, oh, we should have seen to come in and then everyone, I told you was going to get hurt. And because it's your first rounder, it's just devastating to your team. And meanwhile, while those running backs are getting hurt, there's running backs on the waiver wire

or backup running backs that you're stashing that just gain value. And this year in particular, because everyone stayed healthy last year. Which, by the way, everyone stayed healthy to the tune of the first 13 running backs, all but one played 15 or more games. Yeah, and honestly, that's ridiculous.

They're almost all just sitting the last week. The guys that played 16 games this year, almost everybody was just like sat the last week of the season. It wasn't injury, and it was week 18 when we weren't playing fantasy. And look, we have, we've certainly seen years where it's been a terrible decision. We had the Zemir White, Zach Moss, Jerome Ford, Rico Daudel year. This is Dallas Rico Doudal, not last year, and he was relevant for a while. Dallas second half, Rico was great.

Second half of the second half, maybe. But listen, here's one of my problems with it. We all acknowledge, A, we acknowledge the running back is fundamentally crucial to fantasy. B, very difficult to find running backs beyond the draft on the waiver wire. You fight for a couple of them. It doesn't happen very often where they're difference making backs that weren't drafted. C, the running backs you draft in late rounds, guess what? what they're also running backs.

They don't have like an immunity to injury either, right? So not only do you have to hit on them being healthy instead of your front end guys being healthy, but you also have to hit on them being successful when they're not drafted in a place where they can be and you end up with Zimmer White and Zach Moss and Jerome Ford and Rico Dautil. So it's, to me it feels like more of a, a little bit more lottery of a strategy where like,

you really, if you hit, if you execute it, and you hit the big Darren Sproles late or the big name later in the draft, the Bucky Irving of his rookie season, you got one of those. You pick up one, maybe Hero RBs, the strategy that's a little looser where you take one and you wait forever. I might be more amicable to that because shoot your shot on three or four guys. But to me, if you go zero, you wait the whole way, I feel like you have to hit. You have to scratch off three tickets in a row and hit the right thing. It is more of a lottery high upside outcome, which is when you're shooting,

for a championship in your in your fantasy league and and this is why it's pretty often that if you've got a larger tournament play a zero rb strategy ends up winning because the highest upside is oh my gosh i had all of these studs at all these positions i could draft my onesies and then i didn't lose the running backs and my the running backs i hit late work better so the highest upside i think is zero rb but i the reason i hate playing that makes my point though playing zero rb i don't in enjoy it as much because you really have to, the first part of the season is just brutal while you're trying to scratch and claw and wait for these injuries and get the right guy or have your guy pop off. And this season, I just think the entire world is set up for it to work right.

We're coming off of that healthy, yeah, from year to year, I think it changes. And when I look at guys late, it's like, well, are there guys worth drafting? Like, you know, Kenny Gainwell, Rashad White, You got some guys that I think are super, super late that are Jonathan Brooks. Jonathan Brooks, absolutely. Those are the names, I mean, even Bill. You take your shot on whichever one out of that backfield you want. Judarian Price will probably go up later towards draft, but right now he's a super low draft pick. Yeah, I mean, last year was a season where CMC, Derek Henry and McCaffrey, or sorry, and Bijon, were the top three most rostered players on championship teams.

and so yeah I agree you do see the pendulum swing a little bit but that that pendulum is not you know that may that may make people draft more running backs in the first couple rounds because they feel more confident about it but it doesn't make late round running backs more likely to hit or less likely to hit it just that that gamble is still present from year to year yeah it doesn't it doesn't change that and it's I would say the it of course your goal is to hit on bucky or chiron but it's just the the the the The point of it is you can stack your team with, you know, like, so you, you can find usable running back weeks on a waiver wire. Maybe it's not, it's not a long-term solution. It's hard. It is,

but you're more likely to find those to piece together, then you're going to find elite wide receivers. Like, you don't, there's maybe one a year where you're like, oh, this guy comes out of nowhere, where we really didn't see the path and we should have and we pick them, like the puka, you know, you have one puka.

and then next year, who's the new Puka? It's not because that doesn't happen. But we find running backs to fill in the gaps while we, and then we're overloaded with wide receivers, an elite tight end and elite quarterback. So I'm open. You're talking about like the weeks where like as a Patriot, you could start like Terrell Jennings out of nowhere?

Yes. For a single week. It always, they always show up. You just, you have to be very diligent in, in how you are structuring your end. And when you say zero running backs, it's just you're starting with zero running back. So you're going probably like five or six rounds before you are starting to look at the running back position.

Because like, man, like Dobbins. We've already listed a handful of them. I think there's plenty of guys here this year that I would be, I would love to have an elite wide receiver tight end team and then pick up these scraps of running back. And know your league because this is just one strategy. Any strategy can work. I've seen people, I mean, you, you can win if you just lost. log out and auto draft and then, you know, do your best.

It's not setting the best foundation you can, but you can win a number of ways. Know your league. And if I was in a league that I knew everyone is like super hungry, needy at running back, like this league takes all running backs the first couple rounds, like way higher than normal ADP. That is the perfect league to go ZRRB because the valuable high-end receivers, tight-ins, quarterbacks get pushed down. So round after round after round, you're getting superstar, superstar, super star, superstar. And you're

sacrificing running back. You're going to be like, ooh, this is feeling uncomfortable. You're using your tears. That's the strategy. Like crying tears? No, no, no. The drafting tears. That's the crying tears. Available in the ultimate draft kit. For Zach Moss is the crying tears. Yeah, the Zach Moss was, but then

the Chase Brown worked out. He did. I went overrated. You guys both were underrated on that one. Bo Nix is the next one. Oh. Bo Nix. This one was not hard for me. Bonix underrated, overrated, 321. Okay, so Jason and I both went

underrated. Mike was overrated. We're very confident with the overrated. I was. I went overrated. Yeah, when I was looking at the show doc in preparation of this, I thought I would say overrated because he's not

been very consistent, even though his quarterback finishes has been great. But then I just I looked at where he's being drafted. He's the, you know, he's the quarterback 15 right now. He's one of my favorite picks. Double digit rounds. He's been a top 10 quarterback. And then you add Gailen Waddle.

And I really genuinely think that is a massive need for Bowman. Pat Bryant. Oh, I love me some Pat Bryant. Yeah, I mean, they just extended John. Don't bury the lead. He's still there, guys. He's buried in the same. He is.

Yeah, they've said Bryant's the wide receiver three. Yeah, I just don't think we've seen the best fantasy. season from Bo Nix yet, and I think we're going to get one of those. Last year, it was Drake May and Bo Nix that were both late-round darlings with opportunity, worked out for one of them. Bo Nix wasn't the one that it worked out for. He's tied with Russell Wilson for the most wins by a quarterback through the first two seasons of his career. He's got the fourth most fantasy points scored by a quarterback through the first two seasons of his career, which is crazy, because Jason's right. He hasn't been consistent. He's had games that are emotionally

destroyers of your soul. You draft them to be something, and then he gets a home matchup against the Las Vegas Raiders, the worst team in football on a Thursday night, and they score nine points and win the game, and you're like, it almost reflects so much worse on Bonnex when you win that way than losing. It's like you can win that way,

so maybe we'll try. I have a scheduled question for you, Andy. Yeah. So here, this is what the Denver Broncos start the year, with on the road against Kansas City, at home against Jacksonville, at home against the Rams, on the road against the 49ers, and then on the road against the Chargers. Good. You feel good because now somebody's going to score on their defense.

Exactly. I don't see that as a bad thing. Those are tough matchups for sure. They're good teams, but I think you need good offenses against the Broncos defense to keep thrown. Those are some defenses to start your year. I mean, that's like, that's a hard part of drafting Bow Nix. Your first round match if is on the road in Arrowhead.

Let's say, let's just play it out. Bo Nix takes a leap forward this year. He gets Jalen Waddle. It makes a difference. He looks like, oh, this is, this is, you know, one of the upper echelon guys. He does what Drake May did in year two. He does it in year three or whatever. If he were to do that this year, and that's what you're, if you're drafting Bo Nix, that's the only reason you're drafting him is you're hoping, hey, he takes that leap with Waddle.

So if that happens, these are the type of games where they're going to be high-scoring games in these tough, good team matchups. So you're going to find out quick. To Mike's credit, like his best games last year, number one overall, maybe I'm stealing it from your arsenal here. Number one overall finish against the Giants. Number three overall finish against the Bengals. Number seven overall finish against the Cowboys. Who could have seen these coming? Number two overall finish against the Packers.

Yep. What week was that? 15. It was post Michael Parsons. Yeah, that was when they were dose, man. He also had weeks of 27 and 25 overall against Tennessee and Las Vegas. So that's been the problem. He makes weird throws sometimes, weird decisions, and doesn't perform when you expect him.

By the way, I say all that. Last year's quarterback six in fantasy, Bo Nix. Yeah, but the points for game is at, He's at 17.9 points per game. That was under what he did as a rookie and get a higher overall finish at quarterback. The quarterback Zayflowers? I mean, when I look at the ADP on Sleeper right now,

you got Bo Nix and then going after him is Jordan Love, Jared Gough, Malik Willis, Baker Mayfield, Tyler Shuck, I don't want any of those guys. Yeah. Yeah, you said you wouldn't. I would. Oh, really? Those are all guys I would not take up.

Those are all 100% guys. Because Bonnix's upside is so much better than all those guys. I would take the shot. Week one. You're going to put Jordan Love as your started quarterback over Bo Nix? It's possible. But I was more, I was like golf, Malik Willis. You stood by your thumbs down, man.

Yeah. Wasn't there a time when Bo Nix was like, I thought you were into this? Yes, last year, Bo Nix was very interesting. And then he, I mean, he does all those things you were talking about. And yet of among 38 qualifying quarterback. with 200 or more dropbacks. He was 30th and off target rate. Like that's horrifically bad.

When he's pressured, he was tied with Shadour Sanders and J.J. McCarthy in yards per pass attempt. Like, he's, he is the best quarterback on the Broncos. Like, I think they go,

they probably go to the Super Bowl if he wasn't unfortunately hurt. But for fantasy purposes, he was to see inconsistency, 41% of the time above 20 points. What was the guy? Kyle just shared 33% of his points came in those three games you talked about. Jordan Love was a 29% though, so I'm still going to take bonuses.

Sam Leporta. Oh, man. I'm glad we're doing this one. Nice. I'm glad we're doing this one. It's easy for me. Oh, it's so easy. Well, I know your answer.

Of course. Oh, I don't have an answer. Yeah, take a second, Mike. It's all right. Take your time. That's L-A-P-O-R-T-A, L-P-A-L-Porta. Okay. Is that now you're ready?

Yeah, I'm ready. Sam Leporta 321. Underrated. Oh, I'm so happy that this is the only one. Me and Mike both went underrated Jason with overrated. Only one I'm alone on is the one that I'm clearly very right on. Okay. Clearly.

Clearly. Clearly. It's there's no point to Loporta. There's no point to Leporta. There's no point to Leporta. There's no point to Sam Leporta. Last year, before. That is so insulting.

Before he got injured. Oh, you're talking about his tight in six, four, four, four. Yes, thank you. Keep, keep going. Tell me the great numbers. No, then he got hurt. No, no, I know. I know he got hurt, but I'm saying on a per game basis. On a per game basis, he was a B in consistency. That's not bad. 75 for 923 and 6. Boom. Everything sounds good. He scored like 9.6 fantasy points per game and half PPR. 9.7. Oh, I apologize. I did say like. So I was right. I stand by it. Travis Kelsey was 9.1. Travis Kelsey. Right. Who was like the Titan 3, right? I mean, I'm saying, did he matter?

Did Travis Kelsey matter for fantasy last year? I think oftentimes he did. Well, I'm not saying on a week, like, if he had a good week, he mattered. I'm saying as a whole, four out of nine times Sam Leporta gave you 11 points or more at the tight end position. Four of nine is not bad. Sam Leportas talent and ability. Look, he was the tight end one with 11.5 points per game. The tight end seven with nine points per game.

He was better than that last year at 9.7. I think, look, underrated or overrated can be interpreted in lots of different ways. I think it's totally fine for you to say overrated for like your view of the tight-in position in fantasy is never going to afford the selection of Sam Leporta. Never. But I do think that there are other situations where there's two conversations. There's who am I willing to draft a tight-in? And maybe that list is four guys really high and no one else. I think my tight-in tears are now, it's the elite.

guy, well, the super elite, which will be McBride and Bowers, then I'm going to put the elite, I'm going to put the elite young guys of Warren and Mr. Loveland. I got the injured guys next. I'm going with Kraft and Kittal, but then right after that is going to be La Pota for me.

I don't know Fannan worked into there. Or Fannin, yes, he is. But to finish the point, there's the titans you draft, but the Titans, you'd be happy to start after the draft. And I'm just saying, like, Leporta is a guy that I would feel good enough putting into my lineup every single week. Tray McBride had the best season of his career under Petting last year, who's now

taking over in Detroit. I think underrated because of the injury and the fact we basically lost the season where he was actually performing better than his sophomore year. Yeah. And my point is he performed very well. He was very fine. And the difference between him and most of the other guys or just streaming the position is really not impactful.

it's not going to win you a championship that level of difference. Maybe it'll be easier. But who are you giving up to draft Sam Lipporta? Justin Herbert, Brian Thomas Jr., J.K. Dobbins. I'm just saying you get chances at someone that makes a difference. You were giving up the chance to draft Dobbins. No matter who you dropped in the entire draft. I'm just saying that when I went through the things to remember

and looked at how the difference between the tight end two and the tight end 12 last year, it just didn't make an impact in fantasy football. If you didn't have the elites, it really didn't matter. And so I want to take more shots on guys that could break out. I'll tell you, drafting Brian Thomas Jr. did impact your team last year. He did. Well, that cost you.

Like a deep impact. Like an asteroid. That's not a mid-round pick last year. Last year, I was just looking. Like, he was a higher points per game than Warren, higher than Fanon, um, higher than Loveland. I will say this.

New, new idea here for just a, brief moment. New idea for the tight end position. What if the impact of not having to stress out of your brain every week on who you're going to play at that position, your level of, you talk about the fact you know you're in too many leagues when you've got

when you get to waiver wired day and you're like, I don't want to do it. I think there is a value to be said. There's a net effect of not, like I know this from trying to stream the quarterback position. You can do it. You can do it with tight end. but it's not the funnest thing and you miss a lot.

So maybe there's a little bit of value in being able to start a guy every week that plays 100% of snaps. Maybe he's not giving you league winning points, but 9.7 is going to put you right. You got a guy for the spot. And then you can focus on all the other decisions you have for your team. Just throwing it out there. I'm just saying you can get, I mean, Fanon was off a waiver wire, basically scored the same.

You know, Dallas Gutter scored way more on a per game basis. Are you super in on him? underrated? I mean, probably. Okay. Have at them. What are you doing with tight end, I guess? He's taking just straight zeros. I was going to say straight zeros in a position. As soon as Warren gets drafted, he's like, well, I'm going zero.

Let's say you don't get your top four dudes, the only ones that matter in fantasy. Who are you playing at the position? And don't say, I'll find next year's fan and and sign him and I'll be set. No, I will go super, super late. whoever is, I mean, Dallas Goddard is super late double-digit rounds. Dalton Schultz, the difference between Dalton Schultz, who can't run is slow as molasses and Sam Leporta is probably not that big an impact on my actual fantasy team. You just play Schultz every week?

I'll get Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey is a legit. Travis Kelsey is so late in the draft. He's undrafted. He's tight in 19. Is your league drafting 19 tight-in? just grab Travis Kelsey. This is why I'm not drafting Sam Lipport.

Well, it's where it's left up to interpretation. Because when I talk about Ladd-McConkey and Sam Leport, I'm also talking about the player's potential and their upside. I'm not just talking about their draft costs. Is Sam Leporta underrated for fantasy? I think there's a possibility. I think so. He finished number one.

I think is Kyle Pitts underrated for fantasy? I mean, I finished number two? No. I mean, I don't. That's not number one, Jason. I'm just saying it's the same logic of argument. But if you, I'm just, you're just, you. You know, I'm wanting to keep us intellectually honest.

You have to pay a lot more for Pitts. And I don't believe the same thing about Kyle Pitts five years into his years as I do Leporta or the offense. So, yeah, there's nuance to it. We'll take a break. We'll come back with some more awesome debates. So we have yet to unanimously agree on anything. That is true. Somehow we always end up two to one.

I don't know how that math works out. Well, if we don't agree, it will. That was the joke. All right. That was, I'm aware. Thank you for explaining. That joke was. Thank you.

I agree. I agree. All right. Next one, slow drafts versus fast drafts, I guess. Slow drafts for those that don't know, you basically, not everybody's present. It's not a live. It's like a draft over email.

Yeah, it just takes, you know, you got a certain allotment of time to make your pick. Maybe, you know, a lot of slow drafts or eight hours or so. Sometimes it'll, it'll, it'll, people open it up to like a day and then just people jump in when they can. Underrated, overrated? I mean, is it possible to have like such of a little opinion on this topic? Yeah.

So I feel like I want to put a giant thumbs up or thumbs down. I mean, I don't know. Oh, man, you got to be passionate. Sure, three, two, one. A, underrated. Okay, we all have underrated. But the reason I have. Not at the expense of live draft.

No. Goodness, no. But just because it's a way to handle things if you need to. The reason I have underrated is because I don't think anyone out there is banging the table for slow drafts, nor should they. It's like, how could it be overrated? Who's out there being like, oh my gosh, they're the best. Here's the thing. They're underrated because it's a lot better if the busy dude that can't get off of work makes all of his picks than it is for him to auto pick and ruin your league.

or be inactive or whatever. So if you have to roll that way, a live draft is one billion percent better, billion. But I mean live like in person. If you can be in person, always do that. Just that is so important. I mean, I think most people out there, they're mainly. They're main league.

I think they try to get together. I know we do in our league of record. And it is, it makes it all matter so much more. It is a billion times better. If you're just doing a online chat room thing and, you know, sometimes it's all you can do. Sometimes it's all you can do if you want to do a slow draft, do a slow draft. So we all agreed.

Yeah. We all agree. Amazing. With zero passion. Breeze Hall. More passion. Breeze hall. This one is brutal for me.

Breeze hall. Underrated or overrated, freshly paid, freshly minted. Gets to wear the green. again. Underrated, overrated. Lucky. Breeze Hall. All right. Three, two, one. Hey. We all went underrated. Three underrated votes.

Look at that. Look at us. I also hold this up for his head coach. Wait, you think he's underrated? No. No, no, no, no, no. For his comments about a three-headed monster? Yeah. I don't care about that. I don't care about that. You just gave Brees Hall the bag. That's the most perfect thing to say. What are you doing? He said it last year, though. And he was doing it.

He was. Braylon Allen got hurt. Braylon Allen got hurt. Yes, he was. They were on the way to doing it. I think that the addition of Gino Smith to this offense and what it means for Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson, the primary first read targets or checkdowns is just so important. I mean, Bruce Hall has always scored his fantasy points through the air.

I don't. I don't believe an ounce of the three-headed monster comment. I'm with you on that. I also believe teams, it's amazing how we get to talk about the Jets because I feel like a lot of the arguments this offseason for the Jets have been on the basis of the addition of Gino Smith, whereas the arguments for all the teams that have had Gino Smith lately have been on the basis of the absence and removal of Gino Smith from the team. But that's the Jets right now at quarterback.

I don't buy anything that their head coach is saying about that. That is a way to make the other two guys feel good. I think it is impossible to be overrated in New York. I think that's just part of the equation. The baggage that Breeshall carries week to week is going to be viewed and seen in his draft spot that I just think is not going to rise. I was just looking at this. I got him the highest of the three of us by a lot.

He's being drafted right. I got him at 13. You guys are at 19 and 22. He's being drafted right now at the 3-4 turn, just behind Bucky Irving, who I would much rather have Brees Hall than Bucky Irving just for the fears of what might fall apart for Bucky's career. The fact that he got paid a ton of money and now gets to be a pass catcher. Obviously, last year there was a big disappointment with Gentie. Genti was a bust because he was a first round draft pick.

He was a top 12 running back on a terrible team, and it came because of the dump offices. It was his receiving work that happened to make it good. So if you're telling me, I'm getting a guy who's being drafted as a mid-level, RB2 who has burst and juice and fourth and explosive run rate, ninth and first downs, which is insane to me ahead of Gibbs and A-chan. I think he's under, we all voted under. Yeah.

Maybe for different reasons. And I was happy to be able to do this because I always love Breece Hall and I've just hated him the last two years. His situation has looked bad. His draft cost has been too expensive. But I think we're finally to where it's like he's going to be able to catch the ball and he doesn't cost what he did a couple of years ago. Did you guys see the Braylen Allen weight report?

I heard he's bigger, stronger, faster than ever. All I heard was... Is he 250? He said he was 250. So he's... Brandon Jacobs? The Hulk. Is that what that is?

He was already gigantic. Like, he was an absolute monster of a man. And now you're going to play at 250? Brandon Jacobs played at 264. That's who it reminds him. But he was 6'4. What's Brayland Island's height? Brayland Island?

What's Braylin's Island? Raylan Allen is... He's 6-1. Dude. I'm like, regardless. I am very pumped. Please go in at 250, Braylin. I want to see what happens.

I, like, can the... He's 22? Oh, my gosh. So he is a baby. Yeah. But he's a man baby. Waying 250. Mike is really enraptured by Braylin Allen's weight.

it's it's a lot humongous it's all muscle put pads on him last one league median so for those that don't know I know we'll be unanimous here league median is the opportunity in your league settings to play

not just against your one-on-one matchup opponent but against the average score the league median itself within the league so you get two wins or two losses every week it's something that Mike had played in one of his leagues for a long time.

We had not adopted it. Mostly because there'll be arguments we can bring up now. But underrated, overrated, the opportunity to have a little bit of control on your week, I think. And 3-2-1. Yeah. Media. We're all underrated.

We all love median scoring. It is freaking fantastic. The only downside to the scoring is that your records look a little weird. Like, that's it. It's like, oh, you're 23 and 3, you know. I think that people would argue those like myself, who are the more resistant, that it also takes a little bit of the,

like we've always said, fantasy is a game where the gravity of the win or the loss, even if it happens in a way that you don't like it, which, by the way, league median exists mostly because when you score the second most points in the league that week, and you lose against the one team that scored more, that feels bad. And then the schlubb who scored the second fewest points.

Yes, gets a win. And you're like, this is, there is no justice in the world. It brings a little bit of balance and control and like your own destiny within your hands. Because if you go out and do all the right things, you're not just at the happenstance of your opponent that was drawn that week. We're not actually playing, here's a secret, we're not actually playing defense against the other players. Right. You don't actually play them. It's all fake.

It's a fantasy. It's a random matchup. It's a fantasy. To me, it rewards or balances the league much better, and it gives you something to root on. That's the big deal to me. Thursday night, I'm playing Mike. His top three players scored 10 zillion points. I might put my feet up and just go to bed and watch reruns on Netflix the rest of the week.

Now I can give a crap about Sunday because I can still battle against the league medium. We've said this before, but, you know, the reason league median came about is not, the reason that I now love league median. It's not to balance the league or have it be a little bit more fair or hurt less when you have a... It does do those things. But the thing that it unexpectedly did once

instituted is it gave you so much more to watch, to root for your... More fun. That's what I thought you were to say. It's more fun. It's more fun. I now care about other people's matchups in my league way more because I'm like, oh, I'm playing against multiple...

It's just more fun. We go into Monday night and we're like, oh man, if this player for this team, you know, lays an egg, the league medium is not moving or, you know, we're all paying attention to how each other can get an extra win. You can move in the standings more on a week-to-week basis, right? Like if things go your way and bounce your way, I don't know. I'm going to ask Al though, because Al's back there in Ducer's Allie, have, are you on the underrated side? Like you, for sure. You are. So you have liked it being added to both of our leagues.

I love it. Okay. And I'll say the any any negatives that you've because I mean I think a lot of people don't know about it or don't do it any negatives literally none. None. Yeah. And by the way that's a one button click in on sleeper platform. So this is not just an isolated strategy. This is a great time of year. The way that we instituted it in our league was a one year trial. We were like we didn't want to just say hey we're doing this. And sometimes you got the cremudgeons in your league that are like, no, that's not how we do it. Yeah, that's what it changes. is changing the way you used to do it. But sometimes you can get those things across the finish line, across the goal line, if you go with the process of a one-year trial to where it's like, hey, we've got a- We did that.

It is what we did. We didn't put it into effect permanently. We said, we'll try it for a year and then we'll come back and vote again and see if anybody doesn't like it. And two weeks in, the entire league was like, this is awesome. Didn't we have maybe one team that voted that they didn't like it or didn't want to keep it? No.

remember that. Did we even vote again? Or it was like, it was like a. I thought we, I thought we. Was it really, Josh? Was it Papa Josh? I think it might have been, yeah. If one. I think that sounds about right. He is the Andy Griffith of our. In the olden days. Another, I'll say bonus side effect of starting to pay attention more because you start

to pay attention to your your league mates more and their rosters. And it's not like, hey, who has this players? You start looking at everyone's roster every single week, and it just gets you more in tune with players and, like, what players are on what teams, which makes trades going to be easier. You don't have to go do a deep research dive because you're going to have this knowledge basis of you just kind of know

the big boys are on what teams. It really just makes the league better. I thought it was negative. Oh. I think it's a little harder for somebody to lock into a perfect season. I think that's going to be harder. I think a perfect season is going to be harder. Is that a negative? I feel like lucking into a perfect season.

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