Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Undrafted Gems + ALMOST Football Time! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/8

Episode Date: September 8, 2026

Fantasy Football show for Sep 8, 2026. Week 1 is here! Which undrafted players are worth a look? Andy, Mike, and Jason highlight a number of waiver wire players that could be sneaky pickups before Wee...k 1 kickoff. Plus, the latest NFL News, and a fantasy football breakdown of the Wednesday night matchup between the Patriots and Seahawks! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2026 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.comCompete in the MEGALABOWL fantasy football league! Megalabowl.comConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:06 to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, welcome Ian. That was upsetting to my soul. I find that... That's what you sound like. Pretty offensive. Yeah, like...
Starting point is 00:00:34 Guys, I mean, was that spot on? Ducers are nodding. Andy nailed it. The end of that... That's what I'm talking. The end of that was troubling. to me. Is that how you hear my voice? You're my voice. Welcome me in.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Look, your voice is still struggling. We couldn't have week one opening without him. Especially after our League of Record draft, all the shouting and screaming last night. I'm all for substitutionary welcomes and we can make other people rotate through until I get back to full strength. But I'm here. And we had our League of Record draft last night. That did not help the
Starting point is 00:01:11 vocal recovery, I would say. It did help the Mike celebratory. Mike was the Super duper champ last year. Yes. And so he won in our dynasty and our League of Record. And he has enjoyed that very much. And so the champ often does something special at the draft. And Mike, when I showed up, there were two banners bigger than I knew they could make that had been hung from the walls.
Starting point is 00:01:37 One of them very inappropriately hung. he's removed like he removed things from the wall to get these to fit I mean like they are gigantic super banners which okay step one complete I expected a super banner then I rolled up and there was some hints that
Starting point is 00:01:53 like he had he had brought in a bartender and so there was a bartender with a bar he had hung his own banner from that and so and then he had his own custom cocktail yes which was actually quite delicious very refreshing um and uh and Al had so many he draft at all wide receivers the whole night long.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And so it was part of my, like, I didn't really have picks. Right. So it was part of my strategy was get everyone to make mistakes. Get people off of their game. Let the players drop to me. They didn't drop to me. No, no, they didn't. But I mean, your team's all right.
Starting point is 00:02:25 But so then we get, we get going and, like, we're all set up and we're getting ready for the draft. And then the icing on the cake was in roles, two fine gentlemen, part of a jazz duo. Yes. So we had live jazz right next to Mike's drafting spot right bass and guitar. Which was, dude, it was unbelievably good. Honestly, when they showed up, I felt bad for them. I was like, these guys don't want to be here in this room of fantasy football nerds doing a draft. And they're like, why are we here?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Why are you paying us to do live jazz music here? But then it was awesome. They loved it. And every time they stopped to take a break or something, was just like, this is, this is not as good as when they were playing. No. And I will say, on the other hand, I think the, the bartender had the time of his life. He is normally dealing with mother-in-laws at weddings and ends up at the League of Record
Starting point is 00:03:22 draft. And it was a good time. So that's what we did last night. And now, mercifully, a new season begins, not a year of Mike, right? It's over? That's right. Yeah, it's over. And we're covering the years.
Starting point is 00:03:37 A game. His dynasty team is still insane. Yeah, Mike's dynasty team, if it doesn't win five straight from here on, he'll be bummed. But you were saying we're going to cover an actual game today. We have football starting, listen to this, tomorrow. Oh, but tomorrow is Wednesday. That is, in fact, what the NFL is willing to do. Any day, all the time.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I'll forgive it on week one. Yeah, I'm fine. Week one, I'll forgive it. But don't worry, there's a Thursday game. Yeah, no, that's great. It's Thursday football. And also Sunday and Monday, and it's going to be great. And we're finally here.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And 99% of you have drafted your teams. There are still megalobol drafts taking place. I believe Papa Josh, you're back there. Did we add a, I don't want to speak out of turn? Yes. We have a noon Wednesday draft. Correct. So we have our final megal a ball drafts.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And apologies for those that drafted in the very first spot. There was a bump with the sleeper system. We had to redraft a couple of leagues. and that's never happened before, but apologies on that. Drafts have been happening. If you want to get in the Megalobol, it is official. We have the most people that have ever been in the Megalobul. This year.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And you can go to megalobole.com. It is our Super League. 22 to 25,000 range right now. I'm not sure what the exact number is. I know we passed the record. But there's drafts today. Yes, there's a draft at 8 p.m. Eastern tonight. So if you want to draft tonight, you can still get in.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And there's another draft. tomorrow. Before the games, at noon. Or noon central. I believe it's 1.30 p.m. Eastern. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah. Let's track this down. Those are a lot of different times. I thought it was noon. I thought it was noon central. It is not. I mean, it's close.
Starting point is 00:05:21 It's noon 30 central? Noon 30. I'm looking right now. I'm, I'll tell you right now. I'm in that queue. So that's where I'm going to be draft. Times always display in your local time zone.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Whoa. Look at us. Yeah, our UK friends, whatever draft time shows up is your local draft time. It'll show it right there. So I'm looking at 10.30 a.m. tomorrow for our time is when I will be drafting. So hopefully everybody's drafts aren't really well this past weekend. About 50% of, I think we had about 50% of the people drafted had a big draft this weekend. So it's fun. It's time to go.
Starting point is 00:05:57 We got to finally see how players perform. We got tons of stuff on today's show. We got the waiver wire looking at undrafted gyms. guys that you can pick up, maybe see what happens in week one. I think that's the biggest post-draft tip Mike does. Mike is, his team is thin. His team is strong but thin. As they would say, stars and scrubs.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yes. So we'll talk waiver wire undrafted gyms today. We will preview the Wednesday night football game. If we have time, we'll get in some mailbag. We got news to cover. We got a lot going on. And of course, all season long, 17 weeks, join the community, use the ultimate dashboard, get your start sit tool, all of the rankings, tons of free stuff on the website.
Starting point is 00:06:39 The Fantasy Footballers.com, always going to have resources for you. We have continued to refine our weekly rankings processes individually. You're talking 12 years worth of iteration and improvement to try to give you an advantage each and every week. We want to help everybody out, whether you're a part of the footclan or not. Tons of free resources. Articles, Kyle of Borgogan is in the house today. Yeah, he is. He was in for the draft yesterday, recorded his show this morning,
Starting point is 00:07:06 and he is our editor-in-chief taking care of business with the articles, and those are all for free available at the Fantasy Footballers.com as well. So quick question of the day is one of my favorite of all time, because it's just true. And so this quick question of the day is amazing. It is who is a player that you might have been on the fence about, but now that you drafted him, and I'm going to say last night, in our draft, you're behind him 100%.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You really see the arguments for this player now. And, I mean, outstanding. I can tell you one, I can tell you the most truthful one, because it is exactly what you're saying, where I was really on the fence. Until. On the clock, me and my co-manager, we talked ourselves into the upside.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And since that time, I was like, Oh, you've now confirmed it? I've confirmed it. We were in another draft right now, and I took him again. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's it's Bucky Irving. Amazing. Bucky Irving is going to be so good, guys. I am sure of it. 24 years old. He's still young. He was dealing with the shoulder injury. That injury is passed. It's wheels up, baby. He's in flight.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Also, I drafted Blake Corum. He is going to be a sensational superstar. The Blake Corum one is awesome. I mean, to be fair, I have, I have not changed on Blake Corum. No, but you drafting him as comedic. I want, I mean, I went into that draft saying, I have to leave this draft with Blake Corum. He's one of the best picks in fantasy. That's, like, I know I am Mr. Kyron Williams. I still am. I think Kyron's going to be a top 12 running back. You'll be Mrs. Blake Corum. You available? Blake. No, I love Blake Corum. He's an excellent back. Should be, you know, rostered everywhere. So would you say, like, right now, because he's on your team, would you say you're kind of rooting for
Starting point is 00:08:54 like Blake Corum to take over the backfield and, like, Dominique? Because he's on my team. Yes. Yeah. I don't have. I have Kireen. I have Blake, so come on. I hope I'm wrong about Kiron. My player in this category of on the fence about, but once I drafted him, I'm 100% about was Woody Marks. Woody Marks who I got so late in this draft. I wanted to add a little running back depth and I was trying to talk myself into who was available. And you know what? I realized right after I drafted Woody Marks that those 50-50 timeshare conversations in Houston really rung true to me.
Starting point is 00:09:34 You know what I mean? They really seemed authentic and real. And, you know, old busted, David, my opportunity, just pretty much on the edge of retirement. I'm trying to tell you. Woody Marks, I mean, this guy is explosive. And who says the young guy can't take over the bat field? So obviously, change of heart there, right about the eighth round.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And it wasn't a change of heart, but Malik Willis, I just have gone from being like this is this is a good end of draft pick as like a QB2 which he that that's what he is for me too. I mean the guy's just oozing with top five upside clearly. I mean with the amount that he's going to run and where's, look, Chris Bell is totally going to work. His ACL's very fine. And special shout out.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Speaking my language, Mike. A special shout out here. because Kyle is in the building. And if you listen to the fantasy MVP show, Kyle had some strong words for this character, who is now on our team, George Halani. Come on now. You're a Holani bro now.
Starting point is 00:10:42 We're fully in. We love the guy. Goal line. Unquestioned goal line running back for the Seattle Seahawks. I mean, if you want to know where Mike was, draft pick wise yesterday, just speak George Halani's name. That's about where,
Starting point is 00:10:57 you were drafting players you might have to flex at that point. Yeah. Well, come on. Who out there? How many drafts are going on where Halani is not being drafted? Lots. I think everyone. No.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I think everyone. Well, not everyone because I drafted him. No, that's true. Because he's eight touchdowns coming in. I'm just curious, Al, was there anybody in this category for you? I know I'm putting you on the spot, but I know you have a lot of whiteouts and things like that. Was there anybody that you drafted that you were like on the? the fence about, but now are convinced
Starting point is 00:11:29 might perform for your team? No, I knew they'd all be great when I'd have to be. Okay. All right. We'll just go right into the news. News and notes from around the league. In the least exciting announcement of all time, the Falcons announced to a tongue of Iloa will start in
Starting point is 00:11:49 week one against the Steelers. Sure took their time. Yeah, one week before kickoff and they know who their starter is. I think this is a pinnics not ready to go yet, or at least that's how it's being approached because that gives them the ability to say you were always going to be the starter pinnics. I took to a tongue of Iloa in a draft. You don't have some things you don't have to say. It was an 18. Yeah, there was a game. Final pick of the draft. He was in my cue. He was the last quarterback that anyone could take that wasn't a full backup. It was crazy. Shane Stikein,
Starting point is 00:12:20 this is good news. Said Alec Pierce is expected to play in week one against the Ravens. Come on. All good news. We want all good news this week. Roma Dunzee was not seen practicing. Didn't you listen to Mike a second ago? Yeah. We want all good news. Just the good stuff. No, I didn't. See?
Starting point is 00:12:37 That's what you sound like. Romadunes ain't not practicing, but Kyle Monongai is back at practice. The Andre Swift back at practice. Yes. Jonathan Brooks worked to the side at practice again on Monday. General Soreness. Oh, general. Salute to you.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Let me say this. I realized something about... He's keeping Brooks on the sideline. I want to be in on Jonathan Brooks, but let me tell you, I am a weak-willed individual when it comes to that. I realize that if I see one, like one step on a clip from him at practice that doesn't look right, I all of a sudden want to be so out and like, Chuba for life. Like, I'm terrified of Jonathan Brooks.
Starting point is 00:13:17 But it could work. But it might not work. Yeah. What team does he play for, Jay? He plays for the Dead Ringers, Andy. Oh, okay. Yeah, because I drafted him and he's going to be so great. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Cardinals said Coach Michael Forsy said he's optimistic. Jeremiah Love will be able to play on Sunday against the Chargers. You'd love to see that. We would. I don't like that verbiage for week one. What will happen? I just realize this, I mean, it doesn't seem possible, but what will happen if when we come in on Monday next week,
Starting point is 00:13:54 the Chargers who are supposed to be great lose to the Arizona Cardinals, this weekend? What would happen to your brains? Because the Chargers are the perfect team that could, like of any team that if they lost to the Cardinals, you'd be like, of course, it's the Chargers? I mean, what would happen would be a complete deflation of everything you believe in for the Chargers? And maybe life. Yeah, I mean, it's all fun in games, but can't happen. And that also means the Arizona Cardinals will be one game out of drafting Arch or Dante.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Kyle said that the Chargers are the number one Survivor Pool pick right now for week one. Oh, don't do that. And he says he can't click it out of fear. The Chargers just completely disintegrating 92% of Survivor pools in week one. I mean, do we want the comedy? Don't we just want to see the World Burn?
Starting point is 00:14:44 Sometimes. And I can see how the Cardinals can score on the Chargers. I just cannot see how the Cardinals can stop the Chargers offense ever. There's no defense. It's in L.A., right? It's in L.A. Oh, boy. just saying it'd be funny i assume it's the highest spread of the week it's at 10 and a half oh yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:15:02 take uh um travion henderson did not practice again sunday or monday he has not practiced in suffering an ankle injury on august 24th the bailout continues uh for dason uh new england versus seattle tomorrow we're previewing that game it doesn't seem like travo was going to be out there no no certainly not speaking on pat maccavis show i will say i'm sorry we're going to recovering the game But it's like even if he plays, I'm not, I don't think you can start him. Adam Schuster said there's a real possibility that Pooka Nakua avoids any discipline this season. Who said that? Shm Adam Schmfter.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Thank you. See, you know what stinks is his last name, Mike? Normally when you try to re-pronounce, it's like Schmike, Schmite. Like, certain names don't rhyme well. You need to come up with a different name for it. Are you giving it back? I'll lift the embargo. Are you got over it?
Starting point is 00:15:52 No. Okay. but I will lift the embargo. What if I call him Adam Pelliserro? Puka Nikoa might avoid discipline. It is still in the back of everyone's mind that drafts him, that he could be, something could happen. His whole situation is going to be one of the most interesting ones to watch for the next few years.
Starting point is 00:16:09 How do you look at Puka in a dynasty league? Because he could be the single best dynasty asset. There's a world where that is, he's top three or not. Dynasty-wise, I definitely think he's still top five. I know, Andy, you and I disagree on the contract. Like, I think he'll be a RAM long term. But let's say you're right. Oh, I don't think he won't.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I just think that there's a chance. Yeah, there's a chance that they don't extend him that, you know, I mean, currently they haven't given him a contract. I think they're waiting to see if he's back on track. But let's say he, the Rams are out and he hits the open market. Like, he's going to get the biggest contract of all time from some wide receiver needy team because he's a great young wide receiver. So I don't worry about him outside of just being a knucklehead. I mean, that's a reason, though. I mean, Rashi Rice, I think, you know, one or two incidents removed is a different place in dynasty.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Sure. Rice is more gimmicky than Puka. Oh, yeah. Puka can translate to other teams. He's probably in the best spot he could ever be in, though. Oh, yeah, yes. McVey and Staffordes. Josh Jacobs's first court hearing has been moved up from November 17th to September 10th.
Starting point is 00:17:17 That's this is a big deal. Convenient. It's, yeah, one of the things that's really frustrating is that people who respond to what we say
Starting point is 00:17:25 on the show act like time isn't an element of what happens in the fact that like we said some things about the November 17th date which had implications on how long he would be out. If they move the date up,
Starting point is 00:17:41 two months, that has implications on what will happen. And so I no longer stand by the same comments because the, The data has changed. Yeah. If things change and this is a brand new change, it matters. And the new impact is that it appears at first glance. And we don't know if this is going to go to trial, if it's going to be, you know, plead out.
Starting point is 00:18:00 We don't know the future. But this does imply that because they moved it up, now that he's on the exempt list and he can't play football, they're trying to get the process completed quick enough so that his suspension can go soon. and he can get back to football this season. As of this moment, my expectation is that the second half of the season, you're probably going to have Jacobs back on the field. We don't know. Yeah, I mean, just do the math.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You're going to miss week one. You're going to have this hearing if they reach a settlement soon thereafter. Add six weeks, week eight, nine, ten. Maybe that's when you're seeing them back on the field. And there has been precedent in the past for games on the commissioner exempt list that are missed, essentially being credited towards that's not a guarantee that it would but the six games let's say there's two weeks
Starting point is 00:18:50 that he's already missed that it could just be the first six weeks it could be six weeks out of after that and there is a world where Marshall and Lloyd shows some stuff and that the distribution of work changes when he returns and things like that. That is a
Starting point is 00:19:04 I think if you took Lloyd I think that's a good takeaway of like when you take Lloyd you're betting is Marshaun Lloyd good? In the NFL, we have no idea. We like the role, and the upside is massive if he is good. If he is, in fact, good over these next handful of games, I would imagine, I think Jacobs misses six at least,
Starting point is 00:19:27 because of the allegations. If Lloyd is good in those six weeks, he will be a part of the team moving forward. Josh Jacobs won't come back and just completely dominate the running back room. Lloyd will be involved. Malik neighbors. ESPN says it looks like he's good to go for Sunday night. That's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:47 The team released the very expensive Darius Slayton, who was going to be owed $13 million. Dude. Which is a good sign for neighbors and a good sign for Malachi Fields and a good sign for Isaiah Eichly. They hate him. They hate him. How that's the week that the season is starting, you're like, ooh, time to save some cash. Like, that is so dirty to this player. Like, if you had cut him when you had, you wanted to get rid of him forever ago.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Let him go find a different team. I mean, I don't know why they hate him. Because you can't. This has to be, this has to be like a personal thing that they just don't like him. They also paid him a three-year, $36 million. They had to. Yeah, they've always been backed into having to rely on Slayton. Who has been fine?
Starting point is 00:20:36 He's the longest-tenured New York giant. Was. Was. Because the week. week before the season, they sent him packing. James Winston to your extension. So if Jackson Dart keeps running like a chicken with his head cut off, Winston is there to help.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And that is a good thing. Yeah, we love it. Breece Hall, trending towards playing week one with the groin injury. That's good. That'd be a really nice thing to be able to do his play if you just drafted him. And then what do we have? We have Tyler Smith, left guard for the Cowboys, thumb surgery, sideline four to six weeks.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah. Weekends that offensive line. Let's take a break. jump into some undrafted gyms. FiverWire, presented by T-Mobile. All right, it is the waiver wire. The first time and only time we'll be doing this segment before the season begins, because we always want to talk about some post-draft options on the waivers.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Sometimes you wake up and you look at your draft and you go, hmm, hmm, I don't know if I like that guy on the end of my bench there. Maybe there's a different, better option. we want to look at some players that you should pay attention to. Maybe it means picking them up now. Maybe it means keeping an eye on them. Right. There's a lot of different ways to go about it. We'll obviously have waiver wire
Starting point is 00:22:01 segments each and every Tuesday during the season to talk through the best pickups of the week. And so, you know, I thought one interesting thing, like I was really working through my headspace, and maybe you guys can help by consulting for me. I'm in the draft. I have a pretty good team.
Starting point is 00:22:18 My team's all right. Yeah. everybody online was like so you play in a four team league no it's 12 team yeah but it's a keeper and you were set up from last year yeah i i so i am thinking to myself how much am i truly going to value the insurance backs for the players that i have on this roster that right now it looks really good but we we've done all the numbers injuries are you know 24% of running backs top 24 running backs make it through 17 weeks you're going to have injuries but i also know it just sucks to have an insurance back on your roster in week one. It doesn't suck in week 5, 6, 7, even later on, maybe late at end of season.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It just sucks in the beginning because I want to be pulling different players off of the waiver wire. If I draft an insurance back, I feel like I've got to hold them for an injury, and then I get impatient, and I'd rather be playing around with, you know, rookies and things like that. So, you know, I... I think it depends on who the insurance back is. in the situation of guys like Blake Corum, Jonathan Brooks,
Starting point is 00:23:21 and Chris Rodriguez Crodd, you still have the opportunity where week one you learn something and that they are involved and that they are a startable, flexible asset that still has the insurance upside of going higher. There's others that, you know, are just, like Kyle Munungai would just be, he's not going to usurp the number one role
Starting point is 00:23:47 on the team or be so involved. I like Swift, but I like Menungai as a flex with benefit player. I don't think he's just a pure insurance running back. Coram Brooks, Menongai, Crod for sure, possibly Algeria based on workload for love. Yeah, at least the first few weeks. All those guys should get weekly touches, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Right. I agree with that. Not the like, you know, pure backup situation. Gainwell is probably in that category, too. No, Bucky. It's all Bucky now. Oh my gosh. Don't you do it to me again, kidding.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I'm not sure if we check the tape and Kyle probably has some, hey, I doing it every minute. I'm not sure if we check the tape if you had said Bucky Irving's name more than three times in the last year. And there he was on your team. Yeah. And you were playing that one close to the best. Yeah. I couldn't let people know. Even Jason didn't know how much he loved.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I was hiding it from my. myself until he was the last of a tear. I had to take him and went, he's going to be great. That is, it's so fantasy football. When that name popped up, I was like, what? Me too. And then followed by Blake Coram? Who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:25:02 A desperate man on draft day. A man who is inventing his strategy. Jason got thrown off from the jump yesterday. This was a real issue for us. So our team, we are not not the good yeah i mean so we went all in last year to go after the championship at the time it looked like it was like mike and i and which all in the league of record for the newesters is you trade a lot of your future picks and you like you move them down yeah so i had basically
Starting point is 00:25:32 no picks coming into this year because of last year then i lost my high equity pick my my my gamble of jonathan taylor in the lottery that stunk and then my pick spot there's six studs in this draft and I got the seventh pick. So I went into this year going like I am playing for next year. I traded C.D. Lamb for Malik Neighbors when it looked like he wasn't going to play the beginning of this year because I figure 2027. So I'm like going for 2027. Me and my co-manager, we are setting this up trying to do what Andy did this year and how he arrived at this great super team. And then right at the draft, we're like, okay, do we want to vote on anything? And the league changes the rules on the number one pick to make it a lot like a playoff system
Starting point is 00:26:12 for the bottom four teams and you've got to win to get the best picks. And I look, we're trying to prevent what you're doing. Absolutely. I would vote for this any other year. It's a good, it's a good thing for a league. But I came in already. Like, I'm already in this strategy. It's not fair. So I was, I was like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Ten minutes before the draft, you're changing this? I've been working this strat for a month. Jason spent the rest of the four hours during the draft. restraining himself from beating up the co-manager that suggested it, which co-manager is bringing things to votes. Also, I can tell you a lot about the week 15 schedule. I got to prep. I got to win that week.
Starting point is 00:26:56 That is amazing. What about some? So when you look at those guys, those are all, I think, high-end insurance back, standalone value. Maybe the giants are in the picture there with Scataboo, whether it's nausea or Tracy at some point. Now, what I had a problem with was just deciding on like, like, I have, let me just give you my scenario. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I have Kenneth Walker, who is not always healthy. So Emmett Johnson to me, I think that was one where like, because he's a rookie, because he's young, I wanted to take him. And you loved his tape. And I loved his tape. And I, and he's obviously earned that backup role. So to me, it's like that one, I think I wouldn't even feel bad having on my team. The other one was Devon A. Chan. and, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:41 Ali Gordon is who I preferred in that situation because, in my opinion, of A. Chan leaves. You know how sometimes the depth chart doesn't reflect what happens. Correct. When a player goes out, a different back ends up taking over.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like Keaton Mitchell's the two. But Comaini Vidal would have a tremendous amount more value probably if Hampton's down. And like Denver, Jonah Coleman, if J.K. Dobbins, yes, if, we're going to hold on to if for J.K. Dobbins. if he misses time, I think Jonah Coleman
Starting point is 00:28:11 moves into far more touches than RJ Harvey. Right. And so right now, Jalen Wright is the running back two on the depth chart. Ollie Gordon is the three, but to me, Ollie Gordon is the more talented back. So I went there, but I know I'm just going to release this, dude. Yeah. I'm just going to release him tomorrow morning. Because that one, like when you have, you know, like a Tink Bigsby
Starting point is 00:28:33 who's looked fantastic for Philadelphia on his touches, a team as bad as we're projecting Miami to be. Sure, yeah, we're leaving the window open, maybe they surprise us. They're going, they're not going to be a good team. And if the, the super talented running back who's getting all the work misses time, I don't really, like I'm, we would talk about the fab. I don't think either one will be, you know, going out there being a top 10 running back.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Like we, we talk about, you're like the way on the waiver wire, you know, so-and-so season-ending injury. You're like, this is a full fab dump for this player. The Miami situation, if you announced it right now that H-N is going to miss the season, I'm going to try and put one of the Miami guys on my roster, but I'm not like, I'm not going to dump my full fab to go get them. So in terms of current roster percentages, some names to pay attention to on the high-end insurance backs,
Starting point is 00:29:30 Brian Robinson Jr. in Atlanta, who should get goal line from the jump, but would obviously be higher upside tank bigsby Malik Davis seems to be the running back too in Dallas oh he's definitely is and then Mike Washington if he's out there you know we already have like with Jeremiah 11 Genty to start the year you have ankle injuries that are always like
Starting point is 00:29:51 could they re-injure the ankle yes and then you'd have extended starting opportunities for Algier and extended starting opportunities for Mike Washington potentially right and then Woody Marks Woody Marks is at 59% the team, I know we can believe or not believe, but the team has said it'll be 50-50. My draft says there'll be 100 marks zero Monty.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Woody Marks looked, I mean, it's pre-season, but Woody Marks looked better to me this year. And look, it's crazy. Players get better. They actually can improve going into year two. I thought he looked, it looked solid, and we'll get more work from David Montgomery. I think that it's more of a 6040, maybe 65, but 6040,
Starting point is 00:30:44 where there's certain league formats where Woody Marks can start for you. Talk to me about wide receiver options that you look at as undrafted gyms right now. And we can talk about whether they were drafted in our league at all. Yeah, to me, the rookies, we always love taking a shot on. We know that the data says that they get off to slow starts if they're not a, high-end first-round NFL draft pick. So, you know, if you're taking a shot on Jacoby Lane, who's popped in preseason, or Malachi Fields, who looks like he's the number two, and now that they released Arias Slayton, that's probably great news for Malachi Fields in New York to get it on the
Starting point is 00:31:19 field. You've got Chris Bell for the Miami Dolphins, who was a first round talent, but then he had the injury, who's healthy. But my assumption is that all of these wide receivers will not play enough snaps in week one to be really fire. Those are all guys I'd want to have in week one to see if something happens, though. Yeah. Because they have a pathway to huge opportunity. Yeah, I would throw Caleb Douglas there as well. Chris Bell slash Caleb Douglas, two rookie wide receivers for the dolphins.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I think Caleb Douglas has the opportunity to get off to a faster start because I expect him to play 75 plus percent of the snaps from week one. So Malachi Fields and Caleb Douglas, those would be the two. that I think you'll be able to see something week one, whereas the others I'm not confident. Even, even I think Chris Pell's more talented. Jacoby Lane has looked awesome. I'm just not positive they're going to be on the field week one enough to really make a decision as to whether you keep holding them or not. I agree.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Malachi Fields, we were like just a couple picks away. Kyle and I, when the news broke. So we, based off of our roster, it was like, okay, we got to take a chance on Malachi Fields. Fields. I haven't seen any reporting about this. So this is just like trying to think about the situation. Odell Beckham did make the team. Just like and the reports of him, they've, he's, of course, he's not young Odell Beckham. But Malachi Fields is, he was a third round pick. Am I right, Kyle? That is correct. He was, so, that's a day two pick, Mike. Remember? Yeah, oh, yes. Yeah, yes. Round three. Day two. He was a day two. He was.
Starting point is 00:33:04 was a day two pick, but it's just saying of with the release of Sladen, it wouldn't shock me to see OBJ as a full-time start for the Giants. Did Mooney make the roster? Yeah, no one cares. I'm just asking. Veterans with
Starting point is 00:33:20 opportunities, Dantavian Wix, I drafted him yesterday. I did not like that you took him. I would much rather have Dantavian Wicks than all of those rookies we just mentioned. Keenan Allen who did get drafted. I chose Wix over Allen at that point in the draft. Yeah, we chose Alan over Wicks.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Tight-ins that I'm watching in week one, Terrence Ferguson. Yes. Keep an eye on how they use three tight-ins in the L.A. That's a Thursday game, I believe, so we'll get to watch that in prime time. Yeah, I think Terrence Ferguson and Greg Dulcich are the perfect stashes because week one, you're going to know what is their involvement in this offense. And it's either more than likely. involved enough and you just punt them on an important week one waiver wire or they're like okay
Starting point is 00:34:09 these guys are running tons of routes and earning targets those are my favorite because like joan johnson i like joan johnson a lot i think if i if i need to play a player he shouldn't be on waivers he's probably as good as whoever else was picked in the last round but if i'm stashing a guy that i'm not playing it would be the other two like higher upside options if If you want me to tell you a player that is that nobody has, nobody will roster even if I talk about him and could end up with just a wild week one that blows your mind, it is the tight-in one for the Chargers. It is Charlie Kohler.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I was just Coler. I was just typing. It's only Coler to Jason. It's Kohler to the world. Charlie Kohler is the number one tight-in for the Chargers. If you look at the competition, you're like, oh, they got a bunch of tight-ins. Don't think of it that way. Think of it as they decided to add a veteran.
Starting point is 00:35:02 declining David Najoku, who's not number one on the dev chart, and then Arronda Gadsden has had the worst off season possible. They don't like him as much as fancy football nerds. No, they don't. And so literally, Charlie Kohler, free agent contract, tightened one, offense we like,
Starting point is 00:35:19 a offensive coordinator that will utilize him. Yeah, shout out Johnny Smith. Yeah, out of nowhere. I just think it could be a completely out of nowhere week one for Charlie Kohler where everybody's like. I agree. The next time we do the waiver show, we're like, guys, Charlie Kohler, what are we thinking?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, he's a, I mean, he was in that category of a stash where it's just, okay, we'll punt him in week one, or he will surprise and be there. And you might look at his career. He's going into year five and be like, he's had 30 catches in five years. He's a blocking. He is a blocking tight end. And he is. But he is also very capable. If you go back and look at his Iowa State College, I mean, he's totally equipped to catch the ball.
Starting point is 00:36:03 700 passing yards, 756 receiving, receiving yards. But like three seasons of massive college production as a receiver. So he's got the chops. And then if you want to like a week one to keep an eye on the number one quarterback to throw on the bottom of your bench as a QB2 to see if you get catch lightning in a bottle, Malik Willis. Yes. Plays Las Vegas. totally worth seeing what that offense, what he can do, I may have placed a financial wager, which I do almost never.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I mean, you guys know this. I'm never, I probably placed two or three bets a year on Malik Willis's week one yardage. Because it is at one, I mean, I think in some books it's at 168, which would be, I think, the second lowest, like, ever for a starting quarterback in week one. Well, it's because of that Raiders defense, man. I mean, I find that to be, like, I'm just sharing that. I'm not a bet expert, a betspert, whatever you want to call it. That is just one to me that I'm like, my convictions on Malik Willis, that matchup,
Starting point is 00:37:06 I think he's going to throw the ball a ton. I don't know. I'm for it. It wasn't, like, I didn't just draft Malik Willis at the end. And now I'm like, oh, it's going to be great. Like, Kyle can attest my game plan going into this was I really, really, really, want to draft Malik Willis and to see what happens.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, because if Which Kyler fits that as well. I hate to say it, but like week one just see what happens with Kyler because maybe something goes right. You could, but Malik Malik is going to run more than Kyler. I agree. And he's younger. So it's just, that's why I prefer
Starting point is 00:37:44 that side. The truth is if Willis is competent, like if Willis is thrown for 200 yards a game, because he's going to be running for like 40 yards. He's going, he's not going to have a choice with when he looks out and his receiver core is just absolutely seatbelted out there. He's going to run. Yeah. I would also throw Tyler Shuck into that. Oh yeah. He is gone from the highest upside. I'm so excited. We need
Starting point is 00:38:14 to get him at the end of every draft to Jordan Tyson got injured. And now it's like, well, Shuck can't do it. Shuck can't be. He's still got. He was doing it without Tyson last year. Exactly. There is a wonderful irony, Mike, of me having, I drafted Chuck with my second to last or last pick, and you drafted Malik Willis. That feels. And so we're like, these are the opposite. Freaky Friday. It's funny.
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Starting point is 00:39:13 That hits pretty nicely. I don't even remember doing that jingle. I don't remember anything about anything. All right, you guys ready for our match? Let's do it. New England Patriots at Seattle Seahawks. All right. Yeah, we got some new graphics up there.
Starting point is 00:39:33 YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. All right, New England. goes to Seattle. Here we go. Super Bowl rematch the 12 at home over under 44.5. Vegas is
Starting point is 00:39:50 they have the line Seattle minus 3 and a half. You know, to me this one, I said this before the show. I know we were breaking it down. To me this one screams like defensive battle because a lot of the times the defenses
Starting point is 00:40:05 are a little bit out ahead of the offenses to start the season. I mean, I'm willing to be surprised. I think it would be more fun if I was. But 44 and a half, not a huge over-under. New England, they get to try out some new receiving options for Drake May. He goes out there 4,400 yards, amazing season. Now they've got to go on the road and play Seattle. He gets to try the A.J. Brown, Romeo Dobbs situation out.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I think this is fun. I mean, Seattle, obviously, 2913 in the Super Bowl. Drake May was under fire. This was not a good game for Drake May. 52% pressure rate in the Super Bowl. And man, you know, like any team opening the season at home is going to be electric, right?
Starting point is 00:40:49 The crowd's going to be, but now it's Seattle. There is no louder place. Yeah. So I think the first few possessions are going to be wild. But here we go. We got Drake May v. Sam Darnal. We get to see Derryan Price in prime time to start the season as the primary back.
Starting point is 00:41:07 we get to see the true three down Belcow best back they got Ramandre Stevenson. So where do you want to start when we break this one down? I think I think we should start with the fact that
Starting point is 00:41:21 you know this is a team that scored 13 points against Seattle in the Super Bowl they've got changes they've lost Travion Henderson you know they won't have him going into that environment it's going to be tough sledding I think for the Patriots on the road. I'm excited. I hope that the new wide receivers are what makes the
Starting point is 00:41:46 difference. And instead of only being able to score 13 points against great defense, they're like, hey, we needed an AJ Brown that could go up in Moss against great cornerbacks the way that he was doing against Rick Wollin and, you know, in intermural, interteamages this offseason. That's the one to keep an eye on for me is just how does AJ Brown look week one? Because this is a very, very tough matchup for him. Yeah, I agree. I mean, the expectations are, where are you super excited and where are you tempered
Starting point is 00:42:17 when it comes to your start-sit decisions here? Man, I don't know that, I don't know that anyone in this, well, J-S-N, like, I mean, he's elite, but it's like everyone else is, I'm going to start them if I draft it. Week one breakdowns are pretty tough because, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:36 you're generally speaking, you should be playing the team that you, you drafted. We already kind of know who our starters are, except for maybe like a double flex. But these are, this is a scary matchup, especially on the Patriot side too. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:52 I mean, Romeo, Dobbs, you're not going to really, wait and see it because you didn't draft them to start. Yes. Remondre, I think you start with the understanding it's going to be,
Starting point is 00:43:00 volume. Yeah, it's just going to be volume. Here's something that we have not talked about. You talked about, you know, Jason didn't say, Bucky Irving's name too much. That was kind of a joke.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Obviously, we've talked about him. This player's name has never been uttered. This player received 12 targets in the Super Bowl. This player, by all indications, is heavily involved in the offense. But Cooper Cup plays football for the Seattle Seahawks. Cooper Cup is a starting wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Can I say it again? 12 targets in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:43:31 We'll see Rashid Jihad has a whole offseason with this team to further establish himself. That's a different. of I'm fine, you know, keeping the eye on Cooper Cup of how involved he will be. I think, I think Shahid will be more, more schemed up, more targeted at this point of his career. So I don't, I don't hate to, I don't hate the shut out. Like our old school, like isolated DFS lineups, I'd Cooper Cup some captain lineups and just get surprised with a touchdown or two.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But, yeah, I mean, getting to see the breakdown all the way across the board for Seattle, offense. We know who JSN is. But how do those other guys get involved? George Hollani. How does Holani and Price that breakdown happen? If you're making a decision, you've got a deeper team. You're having to choose Remandre or Jedarian Price in week one. Do you take the rookie at home with more competition, may not have going, we don't know, or do you take the high volume, you know, Ramandri is going to catch a ton of passes. Which direction do you go there? I lean the price side. I mean, these are two tough teams to run on.
Starting point is 00:44:39 But last year, I mean, the Seahawks, they give up 14 points per game to the running back position. They're at home. They're favored. At least you are more confident that Ramandre will get the passing work. And we don't know yet with Price. I would say it's near a coin flip. But I, you know, if you drafted Price, you're probably you drafted him ahead of Romandre. They're at home and they're favored.
Starting point is 00:45:05 So I would lean that side. Would you play Price or would you ride the Marshawn Lloyd situation for a few weeks in Green Bay? Because I could see a lot of teams having both those guys. Lloyd going later, I'm just curious. I know we're just acclimating getting started to sit decisions, but they're hitting hard. I have Price just a couple spots ahead of Lloyd. The Ramandre play, so we last year, Seattle allowing the highest running back target share. Like that's where it is.
Starting point is 00:45:34 If you can get four or more receptions from Ramandre, it's going to end up being a decent start. Just so people know since the season's starting, all of our week run rankings are up on the site, the fantasy footballers.com, all of our individuals and then the consensus rankings for week one with player projected points. Right now, where do we have those guys?
Starting point is 00:45:56 Right now we have Ramondre as a consensus. We have Ramondre two spots ahead of Judarian Price. just for the context on there, for player projections for the week. Hunter Henry dominates him week one, right? Isn't that what we're supposed to expect? He often does. We're ever going to talk about him. First couple weeks of the season, and that is, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:18 if you look across the board at how the Seahawks played defense last year, they shut down the running backs, shut down the wide receivers. They were average against tight-in, so maybe that's a place that they'll have to go with their corners locking down A.J. Brown and Romeo Dubs. Yeah, there are some of the top. here quarterbacks have like pretty tough week one match Josh Allen going on the road against Houston week one Drake may going on the road against Seattle and week one I would not again
Starting point is 00:46:43 this is your reminder that we'll repeat and ignore probably don't overreact to week one it's a long season sometimes you see disasters it's very possible Drake may and this offense doesn't look what they're like they're going to look like adding these new pass catchers so there you go you guys have any other thoughts on the on the break down? No, I mean, go George. Go George. So now you're, you're fully rooting for George Halani. Fantastic. But Jay, we were like... I know, we've been more anti-priced. Yeah. And so that we need... It makes sense. It's just funny.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Like if you're anti-price to just say that you love the other guy no matter what? Yeah. Okay. As somebody that has hated other players, I agree. That is how it works. You think I like Ramandre for real? I don't want to like a Romandre. All right, why don't we do a little mailbag give the people a little extra today and man, football tomorrow. Mailbag
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Starting point is 00:48:02 We're in it. Oh, no. Chris in Michigan. Chris. Oh, no, Chris. Chris, I'm praying for you. I believe Malik Willis outscores Josh Allen in week one. Should I make the switch?
Starting point is 00:48:14 No. No, I wouldn't do that. No. Not Josh Allen. You think Josh Allen can't figure it out? Well, let me say this. Last year in week 12, we saw Josh Allen on the road in Houston. He scored eight fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So he's going to need to figure it out more than he did last year in this opportunity. So you're pro, Malik. No. I mean, I would still, I would still. still start Josh Allen. We've seen him in plenty of tough matchups where he overcomes. I can't fathom that, you know, he's incapable of outscoring Malik Willis. I mean, any week players can, you know, Malik Willis could outscore Josh Allen, but probabilities are rankings, how we would start players. You, you put Josh Allen in there. And you want to have a wild
Starting point is 00:48:58 week one go do it. There are definitely situations where it's like guys drafted to start. I wouldn't mind playing like Malik Wales. But not Josh Allen to do it. But I'm saying Week one we have Mahomes versus Bo Nix. Like you so you got Bo against the Chief's defense and Mahomes off of his reconstructed
Starting point is 00:49:19 knee against the Denver defense. Yep. I would I'd be very open to play Malik Willis. Over those guys. Yeah. Yeah. There was a clarity question coming in from Instagram. What is a onesie? I hear you say it all the time. I don't know what it means. Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:33 a one Z is where in a standard fantasy football league, there is just one of those players in your starting lineup. So as in one quarterback, one tight end. So we'll say stuff like, hey, I'm going to take another running back here versus going to a onesie position. Because you're only required to play the one. And then running backs and wide receivers, you have to play multiples. There you go. Should Greg wants to know, California, should trade deals and DMs be talked about in the public chat? No. What?
Starting point is 00:50:03 What do you mean? Should trade deals? Maybe the inner workings of DMs, is it faux pa to like talk about those in the public chat? You know, is that maybe what the question is asking? Yeah, like reveal. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I, this is, if that's what it is, like if you're talking, if me and Mike are discussing a trade and then I go air the laundry, right?
Starting point is 00:50:25 Like I go put his comments or something in the main chat to try to leverage, like leverage for another offer from somebody or like. If it's trying to leverage, I feel like that's pretty Bush League. If it's making fun of someone, I don't know, that's pretty fun. I mean, they're like, this guy offers this. It'll jeopardize your future deals. I'm going to say, you'll have leverage once. Yeah, and then no one's going to do that. And it won't just be the other person that you exposed to, you made mad.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Like the rest of the league is going to see that you're out there sharing people's private messages. be careful, but sometimes it's funny. PJ writes in, who's your go-to later around IR Stash Player on Draft Day? I was hoping last night it would be Jordan Tyson. Everyone wanted Jordan Tyson. That's the great one. That is the obvious one. The terrible, disgusting one that I also wanted was Isaiah Pacheco.
Starting point is 00:51:21 I know. I sold you. It's disgusting. I'm talking last round. Like, when you've got no one left and you just, and you just want. you know, to basically get a free player. Would you, so you'd rather do that with Pacheco over like Charbonnet?
Starting point is 00:51:40 No, no. But Charbonnet is not there at your last round. I'm saying like the very last round, the guy that is always available, as opposed to, so for instance, for me, I drafted Terrence Ferguson with my last pick. My plan was to just draft Isaiah Pacheco with the last pick. And then this morning put him on IR and pick up Terrence Ferguson. Disgusting, awful, unnecessary, but it's just a free, it's a free card. No, I would much rather have Charbonnet.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Obviously, Jordan Tyson is the king, is the hero that we all want. For us, it was, I think I was hoping to get him at the 607, which would be like ninth round. He went a little earlier, so eighth or ninth round in league. I was hoping seventh in our league. That was the mailbag presented by Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus is the streaming home to the NFL and CBS all season long. See you Sunday. See you.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Wednesday, see you Thursday. See you every day. See you tomorrow. Monday. Happy days. We got Super Bowl picks tomorrow on the show. Ooh. So I just got to figure out whether I should review.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Let's got to figure out who's going to win. Reveal my dolphins pick today or tomorrow. I don't know. You guys don't like the dolphins for the Super Bowl? You're going to get some great odds on that. I will. I'll make a lot of money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:50 You just need to put $1. It probably won't be the dolphins. You'll be a millionaire. We'll have to preview the Thursday night game tomorrow. You know what I mean? and then that'll be fun too because football is here it's football time all right we'll catch you tomorrow goodbye thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on twitter at the ffballers

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