Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Undrafted Gems + ALMOST Football Time! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/8
Episode Date: September 8, 2026Fantasy Football show for Sep 8, 2026. Week 1 is here! Which undrafted players are worth a look? Andy, Mike, and Jason highlight a number of waiver wire players that could be sneaky pickups before Wee...k 1 kickoff. Plus, the latest NFL News, and a fantasy football breakdown of the Wednesday night matchup between the Patriots and Seahawks! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2026 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT is available now at UltimateDraftKit.comCompete in the MEGALABOWL fantasy football league! Megalabowl.comConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway,
Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Ah, welcome Ian.
That was upsetting to my soul.
I find that...
That's what you sound like.
Pretty offensive.
Yeah, like...
Guys, I mean, was that spot on?
Ducers are nodding.
Andy nailed it.
The end of that...
That's what I'm talking.
The end of that was troubling.
to me. Is that how you hear my voice?
You're my voice. Welcome me in.
Look, your voice is still struggling. We couldn't have
week one opening without him.
Especially after our League of Record draft, all the shouting and
screaming last night. I'm all for substitutionary
welcomes and we can make other people rotate through until I get
back to full strength. But I'm here.
And we had our League of Record
draft last night. That did not help the
vocal recovery, I would say.
It did help the Mike celebratory.
Mike was the Super duper champ last year.
Yes.
And so he won in our dynasty and our League of Record.
And he has enjoyed that very much.
And so the champ often does something special at the draft.
And Mike, when I showed up, there were two banners bigger than I knew they could make that had been hung from the walls.
One of them very inappropriately hung.
he's removed
like he removed things from the wall to get these to fit
I mean like they are gigantic
super banners which okay
step one complete
I expected a super banner
then I rolled up and there was some hints that
like he had he had brought in a
bartender and so there was a bartender
with a bar he had hung his own banner from that
and so and then he had his own custom cocktail
yes which was actually quite delicious
very refreshing um
and uh and Al had so many he draft
at all wide receivers the whole night long.
And so it was part of my, like, I didn't really have picks.
Right.
So it was part of my strategy was get everyone to make mistakes.
Get people off of their game.
Let the players drop to me.
They didn't drop to me.
No, no, they didn't.
But I mean, your team's all right.
But so then we get, we get going and, like, we're all set up and we're getting ready for the draft.
And then the icing on the cake was in roles, two fine gentlemen, part of a jazz duo.
Yes.
So we had live jazz right next to Mike's drafting spot right bass and guitar.
Which was, dude, it was unbelievably good.
Honestly, when they showed up, I felt bad for them.
I was like, these guys don't want to be here in this room of fantasy football nerds doing a draft.
And they're like, why are we here?
Why are you paying us to do live jazz music here?
But then it was awesome.
They loved it.
And every time they stopped to take a break or something,
was just like, this is, this is not as good as when they were playing.
No.
And I will say, on the other hand, I think the, the bartender had the time of his life.
He is normally dealing with mother-in-laws at weddings and ends up at the League of Record
draft.
And it was a good time.
So that's what we did last night.
And now, mercifully, a new season begins, not a year of Mike, right?
It's over?
That's right.
Yeah, it's over.
And we're covering the years.
A game.
His dynasty team is still insane.
Yeah, Mike's dynasty team, if it doesn't win five straight from here on, he'll be bummed.
But you were saying we're going to cover an actual game today.
We have football starting, listen to this, tomorrow.
Oh, but tomorrow is Wednesday.
That is, in fact, what the NFL is willing to do.
Any day, all the time.
I'll forgive it on week one.
Yeah, I'm fine.
Week one, I'll forgive it.
But don't worry, there's a Thursday game.
Yeah, no, that's great.
It's Thursday football.
And also Sunday and Monday, and it's going to be great.
And we're finally here.
And 99% of you have drafted your teams.
There are still megalobol drafts taking place.
I believe Papa Josh, you're back there.
Did we add a, I don't want to speak out of turn?
Yes.
We have a noon Wednesday draft.
Correct.
So we have our final megal a ball drafts.
And apologies for those that drafted in the very first spot.
There was a bump with the sleeper system.
We had to redraft a couple of leagues.
and that's never happened before, but apologies on that.
Drafts have been happening.
If you want to get in the Megalobol, it is official.
We have the most people that have ever been in the Megalobul.
This year.
And you can go to megalobole.com.
It is our Super League.
22 to 25,000 range right now.
I'm not sure what the exact number is.
I know we passed the record.
But there's drafts today.
Yes, there's a draft at 8 p.m. Eastern tonight.
So if you want to draft tonight, you can still get in.
And there's another draft.
tomorrow.
Before the games,
at noon.
Or noon central.
I believe it's 1.30 p.m.
Eastern.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's track this down.
Those are a lot of different times.
I thought it was noon.
I thought it was noon central.
It is not.
I mean,
it's close.
It's noon 30 central?
Noon 30.
I'm looking right now.
I'm,
I'll tell you right now.
I'm in that queue.
So that's where I'm going to be draft.
Times always display in your local time zone.
Whoa.
Look at us.
Yeah, our UK friends, whatever draft time shows up is your local draft time.
It'll show it right there.
So I'm looking at 10.30 a.m. tomorrow for our time is when I will be drafting.
So hopefully everybody's drafts aren't really well this past weekend.
About 50% of, I think we had about 50% of the people drafted had a big draft this weekend.
So it's fun. It's time to go.
We got to finally see how players perform.
We got tons of stuff on today's show.
We got the waiver wire looking at undrafted gyms.
guys that you can pick up, maybe see what happens in week one.
I think that's the biggest post-draft tip Mike does.
Mike is, his team is thin.
His team is strong but thin.
As they would say, stars and scrubs.
Yes.
So we'll talk waiver wire undrafted gyms today.
We will preview the Wednesday night football game.
If we have time, we'll get in some mailbag.
We got news to cover.
We got a lot going on.
And of course, all season long, 17 weeks, join the community,
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The Fantasy Footballers.com, always going to have resources for you.
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We want to help everybody out, whether you're a part of the footclan or not.
Tons of free resources.
Articles, Kyle of Borgogan is in the house today.
Yeah, he is.
He was in for the draft yesterday, recorded his show this morning,
and he is our editor-in-chief taking care of business with the articles,
and those are all for free available at the Fantasy Footballers.com as well.
So quick question of the day is one of my favorite of all time,
because it's just true.
And so this quick question of the day is amazing.
It is who is a player that you might have been on the fence about,
but now that you drafted him, and I'm going to say last night,
in our draft, you're behind him 100%.
You really see the arguments for this player now.
And, I mean, outstanding.
I can tell you one, I can tell you the most truthful one,
because it is exactly what you're saying,
where I was really on the fence.
Until.
On the clock, me and my co-manager,
we talked ourselves into the upside.
And since that time, I was like,
Oh, you've now confirmed it?
I've confirmed it.
We were in another draft right now, and I took him again.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. It's it's Bucky Irving. Amazing.
Bucky Irving is going to be so good, guys. I am sure of it. 24 years old. He's still young.
He was dealing with the shoulder injury. That injury is passed. It's wheels up, baby. He's in flight.
Also, I drafted Blake Corum. He is going to be a sensational superstar.
The Blake Corum one is awesome. I mean, to be fair, I have, I have not changed on Blake Corum.
No, but you drafting him as comedic. I want, I mean, I went into that draft saying, I have to leave
this draft with Blake Corum. He's one of the best picks in fantasy.
That's, like, I know I am Mr. Kyron Williams. I still am. I think
Kyron's going to be a top 12 running back. You'll be Mrs. Blake Corum. You available?
Blake. No, I love Blake Corum. He's an excellent back. Should be, you know, rostered everywhere.
So would you say, like, right now, because he's on your team, would you say you're kind of rooting for
like Blake Corum to take over the backfield and, like, Dominique? Because he's on my team. Yes.
Yeah. I don't have.
I have Kireen. I have Blake, so come on. I hope I'm wrong about Kiron.
My player in this category of on the fence about, but once I drafted him, I'm 100% about
was Woody Marks. Woody Marks who I got so late in this draft. I wanted to add a little
running back depth and I was trying to talk myself into who was available. And you know what? I
realized right after I drafted Woody Marks that those 50-50 timeshare conversations in Houston
really rung true to me.
You know what I mean?
They really seemed authentic and real.
And, you know, old busted, David,
my opportunity, just pretty much on the edge of retirement.
I'm trying to tell you.
Woody Marks, I mean, this guy is explosive.
And who says the young guy can't take over the bat field?
So obviously, change of heart there, right about the eighth round.
And it wasn't a change of heart, but Malik Willis,
I just have gone from being like this is this is a good end of draft pick as like a QB2
which he that that's what he is for me too.
I mean the guy's just oozing with top five upside clearly.
I mean with the amount that he's going to run and where's,
look, Chris Bell is totally going to work.
His ACL's very fine.
And special shout out.
Speaking my language, Mike.
A special shout out here.
because Kyle is in the building.
And if you listen to the fantasy MVP show,
Kyle had some strong words for this character,
who is now on our team, George Halani.
Come on now.
You're a Holani bro now.
We're fully in.
We love the guy.
Goal line.
Unquestioned goal line running back for the Seattle Seahawks.
I mean, if you want to know where Mike was,
draft pick wise yesterday,
just speak George Halani's name.
That's about where,
you were drafting players you might have to flex at that point.
Yeah.
Well, come on.
Who out there?
How many drafts are going on where Halani is not being drafted?
Lots.
I think everyone.
No.
I think everyone.
Well, not everyone because I drafted him.
No, that's true.
Because he's eight touchdowns coming in.
I'm just curious, Al, was there anybody in this category for you?
I know I'm putting you on the spot, but I know you have a lot of whiteouts and things like that.
Was there anybody that you drafted that you were like on the?
the fence about, but now are convinced
might perform for your team?
No, I knew they'd all be great
when I'd have to be. Okay. All right. We'll just go right
into the news. News and notes
from around the league.
In the least exciting
announcement of all time, the Falcons
announced to a tongue of Iloa will start in
week one against the Steelers. Sure took their time.
Yeah, one week
before kickoff and they know who their starter is. I think this is a
pinnics not ready to go yet, or at least that's how it's being
approached because that gives them the ability to say you were always going to be the starter
pinnics. I took to a tongue of Iloa in a draft. You don't have some things you don't have to say.
It was an 18. Yeah, there was a game. Final pick of the draft. He was in my cue. He was the last
quarterback that anyone could take that wasn't a full backup. It was crazy. Shane Stikein,
this is good news. Said Alec Pierce is expected to play in week one against the Ravens.
Come on. All good news. We want all good news this week. Roma Dunzee was not seen practicing.
Didn't you listen to Mike a second ago?
Yeah.
We want all good news.
Just the good stuff.
No, I didn't.
See?
That's what you sound like.
Romadunes ain't not practicing, but Kyle Monongai is back at practice.
The Andre Swift back at practice.
Yes.
Jonathan Brooks worked to the side at practice again on Monday.
General Soreness.
Oh, general.
Salute to you.
Let me say this.
I realized something about...
He's keeping Brooks on the sideline.
I want to be in on Jonathan Brooks, but let me tell you,
I am a weak-willed individual when it comes to that.
I realize that if I see one, like one step on a clip from him at practice that doesn't look right,
I all of a sudden want to be so out and like, Chuba for life.
Like, I'm terrified of Jonathan Brooks.
But it could work.
But it might not work.
Yeah.
What team does he play for, Jay?
He plays for the Dead Ringers, Andy.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, because I drafted him and he's going to be so great.
I'm in.
Cardinals said Coach Michael Forsy said he's optimistic.
Jeremiah Love will be able to play on Sunday against the Chargers.
You'd love to see that.
We would.
I don't like that verbiage for week one.
What will happen?
I just realize this, I mean, it doesn't seem possible,
but what will happen if when we come in on Monday next week,
the Chargers who are supposed to be great lose to the Arizona Cardinals,
this weekend? What would happen to your brains?
Because the Chargers are the perfect team that could,
like of any team that if they lost to the Cardinals, you'd be like, of course,
it's the Chargers? I mean, what would happen would be a complete deflation of everything
you believe in for the Chargers? And maybe life.
Yeah, I mean, it's all fun in games, but can't happen. And that also means the Arizona Cardinals
will be one game out of drafting Arch or Dante.
Kyle said that the Chargers are the number one
Survivor Pool pick right now for week one.
Oh, don't do that.
And he says he can't click it out of fear.
The Chargers just completely disintegrating
92% of Survivor pools in week one.
I mean, do we want the comedy?
Don't we just want to see the World Burn?
Sometimes.
And I can see how the Cardinals can score on the Chargers.
I just cannot see how the Cardinals can stop the Chargers offense ever.
There's no defense.
It's in L.A., right?
It's in L.A.
Oh, boy.
just saying it'd be funny i assume it's the highest spread of the week it's at 10 and a half oh yeah yeah
take uh um travion henderson did not practice again sunday or monday he has not practiced in suffering
an ankle injury on august 24th the bailout continues uh for dason uh new england versus
seattle tomorrow we're previewing that game it doesn't seem like travo was going to be out there
no no certainly not speaking on pat maccavis show i will say i'm sorry we're going to recovering the game
But it's like even if he plays, I'm not, I don't think you can start him.
Adam Schuster said there's a real possibility that Pooka Nakua avoids any discipline this season.
Who said that?
Shm Adam Schmfter.
Thank you.
See, you know what stinks is his last name, Mike?
Normally when you try to re-pronounce, it's like Schmike, Schmite.
Like, certain names don't rhyme well.
You need to come up with a different name for it.
Are you giving it back?
I'll lift the embargo.
Are you got over it?
No.
Okay.
but I will lift the embargo.
What if I call him Adam Pelliserro?
Puka Nikoa might avoid discipline.
It is still in the back of everyone's mind that drafts him,
that he could be, something could happen.
His whole situation is going to be one of the most interesting ones to watch for the next few years.
How do you look at Puka in a dynasty league?
Because he could be the single best dynasty asset.
There's a world where that is, he's top three or not.
Dynasty-wise, I definitely think he's still top five.
I know, Andy, you and I disagree on the contract.
Like, I think he'll be a RAM long term.
But let's say you're right.
Oh, I don't think he won't.
I just think that there's a chance.
Yeah, there's a chance that they don't extend him that, you know, I mean, currently they haven't given him a contract.
I think they're waiting to see if he's back on track.
But let's say he, the Rams are out and he hits the open market.
Like, he's going to get the biggest contract of all time from some wide receiver needy team because he's a great young wide receiver.
So I don't worry about him outside of just being a knucklehead.
I mean, that's a reason, though.
I mean, Rashi Rice, I think, you know, one or two incidents removed is a different place in dynasty.
Sure.
Rice is more gimmicky than Puka.
Oh, yeah.
Puka can translate to other teams.
He's probably in the best spot he could ever be in, though.
Oh, yeah, yes.
McVey and Staffordes.
Josh Jacobs's first court hearing has been moved up from November 17th to September 10th.
That's this is a big deal.
Convenient.
It's,
yeah,
one of the things
that's really frustrating
is that people
who respond to what we say
on the show
act like time isn't an element
of what happens
in the fact that like
we said some things about
the November 17th date
which had implications on how long he would be out.
If they move the date up,
two months,
that has implications on what will happen.
And so I no longer stand by the same comments
because the,
The data has changed.
Yeah. If things change and this is a brand new change, it matters.
And the new impact is that it appears at first glance.
And we don't know if this is going to go to trial, if it's going to be, you know, plead out.
We don't know the future.
But this does imply that because they moved it up, now that he's on the exempt list and he can't play football,
they're trying to get the process completed quick enough so that his suspension can go soon.
and he can get back to football this season.
As of this moment, my expectation is that the second half of the season,
you're probably going to have Jacobs back on the field.
We don't know.
Yeah, I mean, just do the math.
You're going to miss week one.
You're going to have this hearing if they reach a settlement soon thereafter.
Add six weeks, week eight, nine, ten.
Maybe that's when you're seeing them back on the field.
And there has been precedent in the past for games on the commissioner exempt list that are missed,
essentially being credited towards
that's not a guarantee that it would
but the six games let's say there's two weeks
that he's already missed that
it could just be the first six weeks
it could be six weeks out of after that
and there is a world where Marshall and Lloyd
shows some stuff and that
the distribution of work changes when he returns
and things like that.
That is a
I think if you took Lloyd
I think that's a good takeaway of
like when you take Lloyd you're betting
is Marshaun Lloyd good?
In the NFL, we have no idea.
We like the role, and the upside is massive if he is good.
If he is, in fact, good over these next handful of games,
I would imagine, I think Jacobs misses six at least,
because of the allegations.
If Lloyd is good in those six weeks,
he will be a part of the team moving forward.
Josh Jacobs won't come back and just completely dominate the running back room.
Lloyd will be involved.
Malik neighbors.
ESPN says it looks like he's good to go for Sunday night.
That's what we're talking about.
The team released the very expensive Darius Slayton, who was going to be owed $13 million.
Dude.
Which is a good sign for neighbors and a good sign for Malachi Fields and a good sign for Isaiah Eichly.
They hate him.
They hate him.
How that's the week that the season is starting, you're like, ooh, time to save some cash.
Like, that is so dirty to this player.
Like, if you had cut him when you had, you wanted to get rid of him forever ago.
Let him go find a different team.
I mean, I don't know why they hate him.
Because you can't.
This has to be, this has to be like a personal thing that they just don't like him.
They also paid him a three-year, $36 million.
They had to.
Yeah, they've always been backed into having to rely on Slayton.
Who has been fine?
He's the longest-tenured New York giant.
Was.
Was.
Because the week.
week before the season, they sent him packing.
James Winston to your extension.
So if Jackson Dart keeps running like a chicken with his head cut off,
Winston is there to help.
And that is a good thing.
Yeah, we love it.
Breece Hall, trending towards playing week one with the groin injury.
That's good.
That'd be a really nice thing to be able to do his play if you just drafted him.
And then what do we have?
We have Tyler Smith, left guard for the Cowboys,
thumb surgery, sideline four to six weeks.
Yeah.
Weekends that offensive line.
Let's take a break.
jump into some undrafted gyms.
FiverWire, presented by T-Mobile.
All right, it is the waiver wire.
The first time and only time we'll be doing this segment before the season begins,
because we always want to talk about some post-draft options on the waivers.
Sometimes you wake up and you look at your draft and you go,
hmm, hmm, I don't know if I like that guy on the end of my bench there.
Maybe there's a different, better option.
we want to look at some players that you should pay attention to.
Maybe it means picking them up now. Maybe it means
keeping an eye on them.
Right. There's a lot of different ways
to go about it. We'll obviously have waiver wire
segments each and every Tuesday during the season
to talk through the best pickups of the week.
And so,
you know, I thought one interesting thing,
like I was really working through my
headspace, and maybe you guys can help
by consulting for me.
I'm in the draft. I have a pretty good team.
My team's all right.
Yeah.
everybody online was like so you play in a four team league no it's 12 team yeah but it's a keeper and you were set up from last year yeah i i so i am thinking to myself
how much am i truly going to value the insurance backs for the players that i have on this roster that right now
it looks really good but we we've done all the numbers injuries are you know 24% of running backs top 24
running backs make it through 17 weeks you're going to have injuries but i also know it just sucks
to have an insurance back on your roster in week one.
It doesn't suck in week 5, 6, 7, even later on, maybe late at end of season.
It just sucks in the beginning because I want to be pulling different players off of the waiver wire.
If I draft an insurance back, I feel like I've got to hold them for an injury,
and then I get impatient, and I'd rather be playing around with, you know, rookies and things
like that.
So, you know, I...
I think it depends on who the insurance back is.
in the situation of guys like Blake Corum,
Jonathan Brooks,
and Chris Rodriguez Crodd,
you still have the opportunity where week one you learn something
and that they are involved
and that they are a startable, flexible asset
that still has the insurance upside of going higher.
There's others that, you know, are just,
like Kyle Munungai would just be,
he's not going to usurp the number one role
on the team or be so involved.
I like Swift, but I like Menungai
as a flex with benefit player.
I don't think he's just a pure insurance running back.
Coram Brooks, Menongai,
Crod for sure, possibly Algeria based on workload for love.
Yeah, at least the first few weeks.
All those guys should get weekly touches, no matter what.
Right.
I agree with that.
Not the like, you know, pure backup situation.
Gainwell is probably in that category, too.
No, Bucky.
It's all Bucky now.
Oh my gosh.
Don't you do it to me again, kidding.
I'm not sure if we check the tape and Kyle probably has some, hey, I doing it every minute.
I'm not sure if we check the tape if you had said Bucky Irving's name more than three times in the last year.
And there he was on your team.
Yeah.
And you were playing that one close to the best.
Yeah.
I couldn't let people know.
Even Jason didn't know how much he loved.
I was hiding it from my.
myself until he was the last of a tear.
I had to take him and went, he's going to be great.
That is, it's so fantasy football.
When that name popped up, I was like, what?
Me too.
And then followed by Blake Coram?
Who is this guy?
A desperate man on draft day.
A man who is inventing his strategy.
Jason got thrown off from the jump yesterday.
This was a real issue for us.
So our team,
we are not not the good yeah i mean so we went all in last year to go after the championship at the time
it looked like it was like mike and i and which all in the league of record for the newesters is
you trade a lot of your future picks and you like you move them down yeah so i had basically
no picks coming into this year because of last year then i lost my high equity pick my my
my gamble of jonathan taylor in the lottery that stunk and then my pick spot there's six
studs in this draft and I got the seventh pick. So I went into this year going like I am playing
for next year. I traded C.D. Lamb for Malik Neighbors when it looked like he wasn't going to
play the beginning of this year because I figure 2027. So I'm like going for 2027. Me and my
co-manager, we are setting this up trying to do what Andy did this year and how he arrived at this
great super team. And then right at the draft, we're like, okay, do we want to vote on anything?
And the league changes the rules on the number one pick to make it a lot like a playoff system
for the bottom four teams and you've got to win to get the best picks.
And I look, we're trying to prevent what you're doing.
Absolutely.
I would vote for this any other year.
It's a good, it's a good thing for a league.
But I came in already.
Like, I'm already in this strategy.
It's not fair. So I was, I was like, come on, man.
Ten minutes before the draft, you're changing this?
I've been working this strat for a month.
Jason spent the rest of the four hours during the draft.
restraining himself from beating up the co-manager that suggested it, which
co-manager is bringing things to votes.
Also, I can tell you a lot about the week 15 schedule.
I got to prep.
I got to win that week.
That is amazing.
What about some?
So when you look at those guys, those are all, I think, high-end insurance back,
standalone value.
Maybe the giants are in the picture there with Scataboo,
whether it's nausea or Tracy at some point.
Now, what I had a problem with was just deciding on like, like, I have, let me just give you my scenario.
Okay.
I have Kenneth Walker, who is not always healthy.
So Emmett Johnson to me, I think that was one where like, because he's a rookie, because he's young, I wanted to take him.
And you loved his tape.
And I loved his tape.
And I, and he's obviously earned that backup role.
So to me, it's like that one, I think I wouldn't even feel bad having on my team.
The other one was Devon A. Chan.
and, you know,
Ali Gordon is who I
preferred in that situation because,
in my opinion, of A. Chan leaves.
You know how sometimes the depth chart
doesn't reflect what happens.
Correct.
When a player goes out,
a different back ends up taking over.
Like Keaton Mitchell's the two.
But Comaini Vidal would have a tremendous amount
more value probably if Hampton's down.
And like Denver,
Jonah Coleman, if J.K. Dobbins,
yes, if, we're going to hold on to if for J.K.
Dobbins.
if he misses time, I think Jonah Coleman
moves into far more touches than RJ Harvey.
Right. And so right now, Jalen Wright is the running back two on the depth chart.
Ollie Gordon is the three, but to me,
Ollie Gordon is the more talented back.
So I went there, but I know I'm just going to release this, dude.
Yeah.
I'm just going to release him tomorrow morning.
Because that one, like when you have, you know, like a Tink Bigsby
who's looked fantastic for Philadelphia on his touches,
a team as bad as we're projecting Miami to be.
Sure, yeah, we're leaving the window open, maybe they surprise us.
They're going, they're not going to be a good team.
And if the, the super talented running back who's getting all the work misses time,
I don't really, like I'm,
we would talk about the fab.
I don't think either one will be, you know, going out there being a top 10 running back.
Like we, we talk about, you're like the way on the waiver wire,
you know, so-and-so season-ending injury.
You're like, this is a full fab dump for this player.
The Miami situation, if you announced it right now that H-N is going to miss the season,
I'm going to try and put one of the Miami guys on my roster,
but I'm not like, I'm not going to dump my full fab to go get them.
So in terms of current roster percentages,
some names to pay attention to on the high-end insurance backs,
Brian Robinson Jr. in Atlanta,
who should get goal line from the jump,
but would obviously be higher upside tank bigsby
Malik Davis seems to be the running back too in Dallas
oh he's definitely is
and then Mike Washington if he's out there
you know we already have like with Jeremiah 11 Genty
to start the year you have ankle injuries that are always like
could they re-injure the ankle yes
and then you'd have extended starting opportunities for Algier
and extended starting opportunities for Mike Washington potentially right
and then Woody Marks
Woody Marks is at 59%
the team, I know we can believe or not believe,
but the team has said it'll be 50-50.
My draft says there'll be 100 marks zero Monty.
Woody Marks looked, I mean, it's pre-season,
but Woody Marks looked better to me this year.
And look, it's crazy.
Players get better.
They actually can improve going into year two.
I thought he looked, it looked solid,
and we'll get more work from David Montgomery.
I think that it's more of a 6040, maybe 65, but 6040,
where there's certain league formats where Woody Marks can start for you.
Talk to me about wide receiver options that you look at as undrafted gyms right now.
And we can talk about whether they were drafted in our league at all.
Yeah, to me, the rookies, we always love taking a shot on.
We know that the data says that they get off to slow starts if they're not a,
high-end first-round NFL draft pick. So, you know, if you're taking a shot on Jacoby Lane,
who's popped in preseason, or Malachi Fields, who looks like he's the number two, and now that
they released Arias Slayton, that's probably great news for Malachi Fields in New York to get it on the
field. You've got Chris Bell for the Miami Dolphins, who was a first round talent, but then he
had the injury, who's healthy. But my assumption is that all of these wide receivers will not play
enough snaps in week one to be really fire.
Those are all guys I'd want to have in week one to see if something happens, though.
Yeah.
Because they have a pathway to huge opportunity.
Yeah, I would throw Caleb Douglas there as well.
Chris Bell slash Caleb Douglas, two rookie wide receivers for the dolphins.
I think Caleb Douglas has the opportunity to get off to a faster start because I expect
him to play 75 plus percent of the snaps from week one.
So Malachi Fields and Caleb Douglas, those would be the two.
that I think you'll be able to see something week one, whereas the others I'm not confident.
Even, even I think Chris Pell's more talented.
Jacoby Lane has looked awesome.
I'm just not positive they're going to be on the field week one enough to really make a decision as to whether you keep holding them or not.
I agree.
Malachi Fields, we were like just a couple picks away.
Kyle and I, when the news broke.
So we, based off of our roster, it was like, okay, we got to take a chance on Malachi Fields.
Fields. I haven't seen any reporting about this. So this is just like trying to think about the
situation. Odell Beckham did make the team. Just like and the reports of him, they've,
he's, of course, he's not young Odell Beckham. But Malachi Fields is, he was a third round
pick. Am I right, Kyle? That is correct. He was, so, that's a day two pick, Mike. Remember?
Yeah, oh, yes. Yeah, yes. Round three. Day two. He was a day two. He was.
was a day two pick, but it's just saying of
with the release of Sladen,
it wouldn't shock
me to see OBJ
as a full-time start for the Giants.
Did Mooney make the roster?
Yeah, no one cares. I'm just
asking. Veterans with
opportunities, Dantavian Wix,
I drafted him yesterday. I did not
like that you took him. I would much rather have
Dantavian Wicks than all of those rookies we just
mentioned. Keenan Allen
who did get drafted. I chose Wix over
Allen at that point in the draft. Yeah, we
chose Alan over Wicks.
Tight-ins that I'm watching in week one, Terrence Ferguson.
Yes.
Keep an eye on how they use three tight-ins in the L.A.
That's a Thursday game, I believe, so we'll get to watch that in prime time.
Yeah, I think Terrence Ferguson and Greg Dulcich are the perfect stashes because week one,
you're going to know what is their involvement in this offense.
And it's either more than likely.
involved enough and you just punt them on an important week one waiver wire or they're like okay
these guys are running tons of routes and earning targets those are my favorite because like
joan johnson i like joan johnson a lot i think if i if i need to play a player he shouldn't be
on waivers he's probably as good as whoever else was picked in the last round but if i'm
stashing a guy that i'm not playing it would be the other two like higher upside options if
If you want me to tell you a player that is that nobody has, nobody will roster even if I talk about
him and could end up with just a wild week one that blows your mind, it is the tight-in one for the
Chargers.
It is Charlie Kohler.
I was just Coler.
I was just typing.
It's only Coler to Jason.
It's Kohler to the world.
Charlie Kohler is the number one tight-in for the Chargers.
If you look at the competition, you're like, oh, they got a bunch of tight-ins.
Don't think of it that way.
Think of it as they decided to add a veteran.
declining David Najoku,
who's not number one on the dev chart,
and then Arronda Gadsden has had the worst
off season possible. They don't like him as much
as fancy football nerds. No,
they don't. And so literally,
Charlie Kohler, free agent contract,
tightened one, offense we like,
a
offensive coordinator that will utilize
him. Yeah, shout out
Johnny Smith. Yeah, out of nowhere.
I just think it could be a completely
out of nowhere week one for Charlie Kohler
where everybody's like. I agree.
The next time we do the waiver show, we're like, guys, Charlie Kohler, what are we thinking?
Yeah, he's a, I mean, he was in that category of a stash where it's just, okay, we'll punt him in week one, or he will surprise and be there.
And you might look at his career.
He's going into year five and be like, he's had 30 catches in five years.
He's a blocking.
He is a blocking tight end.
And he is.
But he is also very capable.
If you go back and look at his Iowa State College, I mean, he's totally equipped to catch the ball.
700 passing yards, 756 receiving, receiving yards.
But like three seasons of massive college production as a receiver.
So he's got the chops.
And then if you want to like a week one to keep an eye on the number one quarterback to throw on the bottom of your bench as a QB2 to see if you get catch lightning in a bottle, Malik Willis.
Yes.
Plays Las Vegas.
totally worth seeing what that offense, what he can do,
I may have placed a financial wager, which I do almost never.
I mean, you guys know this.
I'm never, I probably placed two or three bets a year on Malik Willis's week one yardage.
Because it is at one, I mean, I think in some books it's at 168,
which would be, I think, the second lowest, like, ever for a starting quarterback in week one.
Well, it's because of that Raiders defense, man.
I mean, I find that to be, like, I'm just sharing that.
I'm not a bet expert, a betspert, whatever you want to call it.
That is just one to me that I'm like, my convictions on Malik Willis, that matchup,
I think he's going to throw the ball a ton.
I don't know.
I'm for it.
It wasn't, like, I didn't just draft Malik Willis at the end.
And now I'm like, oh, it's going to be great.
Like, Kyle can attest my game plan going into this was I really, really, really,
want to draft Malik Willis
and to see what happens.
Yeah, because if
Which Kyler fits that as well. I hate to say it, but like
week one just see what happens with Kyler
because maybe
something goes right. You could, but Malik
Malik is going to run more than
Kyler. I agree. And he's younger.
So it's just, that's why I prefer
that side. The truth
is if Willis is
competent, like if Willis is
thrown for 200 yards a game,
because he's going to be running for like
40 yards. He's going, he's not going to have a choice with when he looks out and his
receiver core is just absolutely seatbelted out there. He's going to run. Yeah. I would also
throw Tyler Shuck into that. Oh yeah. He is gone from the highest upside. I'm so excited. We need
to get him at the end of every draft to Jordan Tyson got injured. And now it's like, well,
Shuck can't do it. Shuck can't be. He's still got. He was doing it without Tyson last year.
Exactly.
There is a wonderful irony, Mike, of me having, I drafted Chuck with my second to last or last pick, and you drafted Malik Willis.
That feels.
And so we're like, these are the opposite.
Freaky Friday.
It's funny.
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Wednesday night breakdown.
Wednesday night.
Have we had a Wednesday night break down graphic before?
No, because we've never had this segment.
That hits pretty nicely.
I don't even remember doing that jingle.
I don't remember anything about anything.
All right, you guys ready for our match?
Let's do it.
New England Patriots at Seattle Seahawks.
All right.
Yeah, we got some new graphics up there.
YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers.
All right, New England.
goes to Seattle.
Here we go.
Super Bowl rematch
the 12 at home
over under
44.5. Vegas is
they have the line Seattle minus
3 and a half.
You know, to me this one,
I said this before the show. I know
we were breaking it down. To me this one screams
like defensive
battle
because a lot of the times the defenses
are a little bit out ahead of the offenses to start the season.
I mean, I'm willing to be surprised.
I think it would be more fun if I was.
But 44 and a half, not a huge over-under.
New England, they get to try out some new receiving options for Drake May.
He goes out there 4,400 yards, amazing season.
Now they've got to go on the road and play Seattle.
He gets to try the A.J. Brown, Romeo Dobbs situation out.
I think this is fun.
I mean, Seattle, obviously, 2913 in the Super Bowl.
Drake May was under fire.
This was not a good game for Drake May.
52% pressure rate in the Super Bowl.
And man, you know,
like any team opening the season at home
is going to be electric, right?
The crowd's going to be, but now it's Seattle.
There is no louder place.
Yeah.
So I think the first few possessions are going to be wild.
But here we go.
We got Drake May v. Sam Darnal.
We get to see Derryan Price in prime time
to start the season as the primary back.
we get to see the true
three down Belcow
best back they got Ramandre
Stevenson. So where do you want to
start when we break this one down?
I think
I think we should start with
the fact that
you know this is a team that scored 13 points
against Seattle in the Super Bowl
they've got changes
they've lost Travion Henderson
you know they won't have him
going into that environment it's going to be
tough sledding I think for
the Patriots on the road. I'm excited. I hope that the new wide receivers are what makes the
difference. And instead of only being able to score 13 points against great defense, they're like,
hey, we needed an AJ Brown that could go up in Moss against great cornerbacks the way that he was
doing against Rick Wollin and, you know, in intermural, interteamages this offseason. That's the one
to keep an eye on for me is just how does AJ Brown look week one? Because this is a
very, very tough matchup for him.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, the expectations are,
where are you super excited and where are you tempered
when it comes to your start-sit decisions here?
Man, I don't know that,
I don't know that anyone in this,
well, J-S-N, like, I mean, he's elite,
but it's like everyone else is,
I'm going to start them if I draft it.
Week one breakdowns are pretty tough
because, you know,
you're generally speaking, you should be playing the team that you,
you drafted.
We already kind of know who our starters are,
except for maybe like a double flex.
But these are,
this is a scary matchup,
especially on the Patriot side too.
Yeah,
I mean,
Romeo,
Dobbs,
you're not going to really,
wait and see it because you didn't draft them to start.
Yes.
Remondre,
I think you start with the understanding it's going to be,
volume.
Yeah,
it's just going to be volume.
Here's something that we have not talked about.
You talked about,
you know,
Jason didn't say,
Bucky Irving's name too much. That was kind of a joke.
Obviously, we've talked about him.
This player's name has never been uttered.
This player received 12 targets in the Super Bowl.
This player, by all indications, is heavily involved
in the offense.
But Cooper Cup plays football for the Seattle Seahawks.
Cooper Cup is a starting wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks.
Can I say it again? 12 targets in the Super Bowl.
We'll see Rashid Jihad has a whole offseason with this team
to further establish himself.
That's a different.
of I'm fine, you know, keeping the eye on Cooper Cup of how involved he will be.
I think, I think Shahid will be more, more schemed up, more targeted at this point of his career.
So I don't, I don't hate to, I don't hate the shut out.
Like our old school, like isolated DFS lineups, I'd Cooper Cup some captain lineups and just
get surprised with a touchdown or two.
But, yeah, I mean, getting to see the breakdown all the way across the board for Seattle,
offense. We know who JSN is. But how do those other guys get involved?
George Hollani. How does Holani and Price that breakdown happen? If you're making a decision,
you've got a deeper team. You're having to choose Remandre or Jedarian Price in week one.
Do you take the rookie at home with more competition, may not have going, we don't know,
or do you take the high volume, you know, Ramandri is going to catch a ton of passes.
Which direction do you go there? I lean the price side.
I mean, these are two tough teams to run on.
But last year, I mean, the Seahawks, they give up 14 points per game to the running back position.
They're at home.
They're favored.
At least you are more confident that Ramandre will get the passing work.
And we don't know yet with Price.
I would say it's near a coin flip.
But I, you know, if you drafted Price, you're probably you drafted him ahead of Romandre.
They're at home and they're favored.
So I would lean that side.
Would you play Price or would you ride the Marshawn Lloyd situation for a few weeks in Green Bay?
Because I could see a lot of teams having both those guys.
Lloyd going later, I'm just curious.
I know we're just acclimating getting started to sit decisions, but they're hitting hard.
I have Price just a couple spots ahead of Lloyd.
The Ramandre play, so we last year, Seattle allowing the highest running back target share.
Like that's where it is.
If you can get four or more receptions from Ramandre,
it's going to end up being a decent start.
Just so people know since the season's starting,
all of our week run rankings are up on the site,
the fantasy footballers.com,
all of our individuals and then the consensus rankings for week one
with player projected points.
Right now, where do we have those guys?
Right now we have Ramondre as a consensus.
We have Ramondre two spots ahead of Judarian Price.
just for the context on there, for player projections for the week.
Hunter Henry dominates him week one, right?
Isn't that what we're supposed to expect?
He often does.
We're ever going to talk about him.
First couple weeks of the season, and that is, you know,
if you look across the board at how the Seahawks played defense last year,
they shut down the running backs, shut down the wide receivers.
They were average against tight-in,
so maybe that's a place that they'll have to go with their corners
locking down A.J. Brown and Romeo Dubs.
Yeah, there are some of the top.
here quarterbacks have like pretty tough week one match Josh Allen going on the road against
Houston week one Drake may going on the road against Seattle and week one I would not again
this is your reminder that we'll repeat and ignore probably don't overreact to week one it's a long
season sometimes you see disasters it's very possible Drake may and this offense doesn't look
what they're like they're going to look like adding these new pass catchers so
there you go you guys have any other thoughts on the on the break
down? No, I mean, go George.
Go George. So now you're, you're fully rooting for George Halani. Fantastic.
But Jay, we were like... I know, we've been more anti-priced.
Yeah. And so that we need... It makes sense. It's just funny.
Like if you're anti-price to just say that you love the other guy no matter what? Yeah.
Okay. As somebody that has hated other players, I agree. That is how it works.
You think I like Ramandre for real?
I don't want to like a Romandre.
All right, why don't we do a little mailbag
give the people a little extra today
and man, football tomorrow.
Mailbag
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Guys, guys, guys, guys.
Yes, yes.
Do you realize we're in it?
Listen to this.
Listen to this question.
Oh, no.
It's the most perfect.
We're in it.
Oh, no.
Chris in Michigan.
Chris.
Oh, no, Chris.
Chris, I'm praying for you.
I believe Malik Willis outscores Josh Allen in week one.
Should I make the switch?
No.
No, I wouldn't do that.
No.
Not Josh Allen.
You think Josh Allen can't figure it out?
Well, let me say this.
Last year in week 12, we saw Josh Allen on the road in Houston.
He scored eight fantasy points.
So he's going to need to figure it out more than he did last year in this opportunity.
So you're pro, Malik.
No.
I mean, I would still, I would still.
still start Josh Allen. We've seen him in plenty of tough matchups where he overcomes.
I can't fathom that, you know, he's incapable of outscoring Malik Willis. I mean, any week
players can, you know, Malik Willis could outscore Josh Allen, but probabilities are rankings,
how we would start players. You, you put Josh Allen in there. And you want to have a wild
week one go do it. There are definitely situations where it's like guys drafted to start. I wouldn't mind
playing like Malik Wales.
But not Josh Allen to do it. But I'm saying
Week one we have Mahomes
versus Bo Nix.
Like you so you got
Bo against the Chief's defense
and Mahomes off of his reconstructed
knee against the Denver defense.
Yep. I would
I'd be very open to play Malik Willis.
Over those guys. Yeah.
Yeah. There was a clarity question
coming in from Instagram. What is a onesie?
I hear you say it all the time. I don't know what it means.
Sure.
a one Z is where in a standard fantasy football league,
there is just one of those players
in your starting lineup. So as in one quarterback, one tight end.
So we'll say stuff like, hey, I'm going to take another running back here
versus going to a onesie position. Because you're only required to play the one.
And then running backs and wide receivers, you have to play multiples.
There you go. Should Greg wants to know, California, should trade deals and DMs be talked about in the public chat?
No. What?
What do you mean?
Should trade deals?
Maybe the inner workings of DMs, is it faux pa to like talk about those in the public chat?
You know, is that maybe what the question is asking?
Yeah, like reveal.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I, this is, if that's what it is, like if you're talking, if me and Mike are discussing a trade and then I go air the laundry, right?
Like I go put his comments or something in the main chat to try to leverage, like leverage for another offer from somebody or like.
If it's trying to leverage, I feel like that's pretty Bush League.
If it's making fun of someone, I don't know, that's pretty fun.
I mean, they're like, this guy offers this.
It'll jeopardize your future deals.
I'm going to say, you'll have leverage once.
Yeah, and then no one's going to do that.
And it won't just be the other person that you exposed to, you made mad.
Like the rest of the league is going to see that you're out there sharing people's private messages.
be careful, but sometimes it's funny.
PJ writes in, who's your go-to later around IR Stash Player on Draft Day?
I was hoping last night it would be Jordan Tyson.
Everyone wanted Jordan Tyson.
That's the great one.
That is the obvious one.
The terrible, disgusting one that I also wanted was Isaiah Pacheco.
I know.
I sold you.
It's disgusting.
I'm talking last round.
Like, when you've got no one left and you just,
and you just want.
you know, to basically get a free player.
Would you, so you'd rather do that with Pacheco over like Charbonnet?
No, no.
But Charbonnet is not there at your last round.
I'm saying like the very last round, the guy that is always available, as opposed to,
so for instance, for me, I drafted Terrence Ferguson with my last pick.
My plan was to just draft Isaiah Pacheco with the last pick.
And then this morning put him on IR and pick up Terrence Ferguson.
Disgusting, awful, unnecessary, but it's just a free, it's a free card.
No, I would much rather have Charbonnet.
Obviously, Jordan Tyson is the king, is the hero that we all want.
For us, it was, I think I was hoping to get him at the 607, which would be like ninth round.
He went a little earlier, so eighth or ninth round in league.
I was hoping seventh in our league.
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Monday.
Happy days.
We got Super Bowl picks tomorrow on the show.
Ooh.
So I just got to figure out whether I should review.
Let's got to figure out who's going to win.
Reveal my dolphins pick today or tomorrow.
I don't know.
You guys don't like the dolphins for the Super Bowl?
You're going to get some great odds on that.
I will.
I'll make a lot of money.
Yeah.
You just need to put $1.
It probably won't be the dolphins.
You'll be a millionaire.
We'll have to preview the Thursday night game tomorrow.
You know what I mean?
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