Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 10 Matchups + Double Shame, Chase BOOM! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8
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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Welcome in
That was it was way too much extra joy. Oh, I feel about 53.9
Points worth of extra joy this fine a morning
Me you're over there
Acting like you had both burrow and chase. No, which I didn't I didn't I only had chase. I'm out of here
You guys suck my hair our main dynasty league Mike's rocking the stack of Joe burrow
Jamar chase and over in League of Record former champ Andy Holloway was defending was gifted
record former champ Andy Holloway was gifted Jamar Chase in a trade that just showed up in his inbox for basically a Mari Cooper in garbage. And so yeah, it's a good day to be
you guys. It's a bad day to sit between you. Yeah. And I can tell you right now as I slide
over to Deucer's alley, there's a man in a black hat in the shadows just miserable. Yeah, just miserable over there
Am I right now? Yeah
Fortunately, I didn't have to play against either burrow or chase. I did do that
I did that check in my other leagues this morning
Yeah, the very scary click into each league to see if I played burrow chase or Lamar. That's what I mean
I literally I tweeted this out, but it wasn't a joke.
I was afraid to open the Sleeper app
and scroll through my teams,
because I wasn't sure who my matchups.
Which games are over?
Yeah, exactly, I was like, oh gosh, did I,
because I don't have Jamar Chase,
I have him in our family league,
which is probably our, I mean,
we kind of don't care about that.
Um, but all the other leagues that I'm in, is probably our, I mean, we kind of don't care about that. But all the other
leagues that I'm in, I, Jeremy just came on set and put Jamar Chase down. Oh man. But
I don't have them anywhere, so I knew there's a good chance I'm playing against them somewhere.
Happy to report.
Your weeks aren't over?
I can still play this week.
Look, I know not everybody's happy, because a lot of you played against them and we got everything we wanted on Thursday night football
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Ravens over the Bengals face masks. They can't call them in the last 30 seconds of a game
You know, I saw someone I saw someone tweet this out and it's
It's legitimate. I wonder you know the going for to to win the game at the end
Do you factor in that they're like calling those plays like a Hail Mary?
You know like they should not be they shouldn't it's a that is a play where you shouldn't just be able to go like
Hulk smash everybody on the play, but that's kind of what happened
and and I also at the same time, I do understand
that you don't want the refs to be the reason
for the last play, so swallow close call whistles there,
but I don't know how close calls those were.
No, you can't just, if you start the play
with any of those mindsets, I'm gonna let things go,
or I'm gonna call it too tight. You've already lost.
Like you need to call the play the play.
You need to get rid of the context and just call it.
And now we've seen not going for two, you lost.
Going for two, you lost.
Like we just saw this with Tampa
on Monday Night Football, right?
Like you're condemned for not going?
Yeah, I don't blame them for going for it.
Oh, I don't condemn them at all.
I think it was a penalty.
I think it was a bad call.
I also think that one play doesn't define the whole game
and we just have to live with what it was.
Maybe stop, you know, the Baltimore Ravens
from scoring 28 in the second half.
There was a holding penalty called, you know,
on Jamar Chase early in the game in the end zone
that was famed for. Oh, yeah, that was never.
No, that wasn't real.
So, you know, they're gonna get it wrong. No, going for two was the, that was the right call. 100 zone that was phantom. Oh, yeah, that was not very good. That wasn't real. So they're going to get it wrong.
Going for two was the right call.
100%.
I mean, think of the conversion rate of a two-point conversion.
It's right around 50%.
And then if you go into overtime in a tie,
flipping a coin, about 50%.
And if you lose that, whoever got the ball was winning the game
because defenses couldn't, the defense was done.
Definitely a crazy night. I hate losing a game not throwing it to my best player. I
think that was part of my criticism of the play. I know that you're going to get a lot
of coverage on Jamar Chase, but I really hate losing,
throwing it to a tight end, like the catch percentage
of targeting him there, I just don't know.
But Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, amazing.
Derek Henry, got into the end zone.
Mostly stifled on the ground, but got into the end zone.
I think a big storyline is Chase Brown.
However, I do think this was more a product of the defense
that the Baltimore Ravens chose to play in this game.
They ridiculously, they simultaneously played a defense
exclusively built to stop Jamar Chase and failed at that
and gave up the underneath all game long.
Nine receptions for Chase Brown.
So if you had Chase in your name, you put up a big night. gave up the underneath all game long. Nine receptions for Chase Brown.
So if you had Chase in your name,
you put up a big night.
It was a very good game for him.
And then on the other side,
best game of the year for Mark Andrews,
six for 68 and a touchdown.
Looked like vintage Andrews,
and it's not a surprise you needed to do it
when you're in a game that's got 69 points.
And likely was a no.
Yeah, exactly.
I feel like he should really just, you know, probably go on IR, rest that hamstring.
Likely?
Likely, yeah.
Likely should just really take the rest.
Save yourself for the playoffs, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
You're playoff-bound, you're a Super Bowl contender, why don't you let the old guy get
the wear and tear?
Exactly.
Come back in week 18 for a little bit of reps
before the playoffs, but just get healthy, likely.
And just two targets for Deontay Johnson in this game.
Not very involved yet for those monitoring that.
And I just, look, this is not a sponsor comment at all.
People thought it was.
I just wanna say this because maybe it will be aspirational
for other networks.
Oh yeah, I saw you tweet.
It's true.
Dear goodness, the NFL looks good on Prime.
It is like you bought an upgraded graphics card
for the NFL every week that I turn it on.
I cannot believe how crystal clear
and amazing the production is,
and I hope we move our
way up on the other networks.
I think it's objectively superior.
The other game modes as well, or whatever they call them, the streams where you can...
Their version of the Alt 22.
It's like the X-Ray or...
X-Ray, yeah, I think that's it.
I mean, they just have the technology where it needs to be.
Which we do know this, like we've sat down with them before
in years past just talking to them about the NFL.
And we know how much effort they put into it.
When you turn the TV on in this day and age
and you can be like, oh my gosh, those jerseys.
I don't know.
Oh my goodness, those Ravens jerseys. It was just crystal clear, I don't know my goodness those Ravens jerseys it was just crystal clear I don't know they got some kind of
special technology can we get those cameras can we get them in the studio I
think it's all system the it just the infrastructure for the for the stream I
guess we wouldn't want those cameras in this studio because we look I want a
Gaussian blur that soap opera filter over here. Can we blur this a bit?
We do better with the blur.
So the game was not great for everybody.
Sticky Gussicky was icky at 4 for 30.
The right answer was Tanner Hudson at the tight end position.
It was 6 for 42 in his score.
And somehow, Zay Flowers was 4 for 34 and like this was the old school Ze
Flowers I'm not I'm not worried about it at all but just it was frustrating of
Ze Flowers is so good like he like his talent level to me is absolutely off the
charts to the point of his his plays are so impactful that in my head I'm like,
oh, Alzey Flowers is having a great game.
And then you get into the fourth quarter
and you look at the numbers, you go, oh, no, he is not.
Well, a lot of the passing yardage that came late
when they were going back and forth,
taking leads, getting them back,
there was an 84 yard touchdown to Tylin Wallace,
whoever that is.
You know, that takes a drive away from Zay Flowers.
Andrews was more involved, but yeah,
I don't think you go away from him.
You just are sad.
I mean, I was hungry for more,
now I'm starving for more Zay Flowers.
Yeah, it was a little bit like the situation
with Chase last week with Burrow.
He threw five touchdowns, none to Chase. This week, four touchdowns for Lamar, none flowers. Yeah, it was a little bit like the situation with Chase last week with Burrow. He threw five touchdowns, none to Chase.
This week four touchdowns for Lamar,
none does eight flowers.
Bet on good players.
Yeah, they'll work out in the end.
I'm not complaining about Chase no more.
Mike has been the experienced Chase manager.
In all the years of Chase's career,
I played seven, eight leagues a year.
I have never had Jamar Chase on my team.
And so I added him a couple weeks ago,
just crafted a beautiful trade, the best trade.
I did the best.
It was a really good trade for him.
And I hadn't gotten this game yet, Mike, and ooh, it's sweet.
It is amazing.
And the-
Ooh, so good.
This is the first time that I can remember that like
I won on a Thursday I have lost so many times on Thursday night and it is the
worst feeling Brooks do you how do you feel how you feel Brooks yeah all right
yeah that's even chime in I I saw Nathan Yonkey tweet out the complete list
of multiple 260 yard receiving games in NFL history
is Jamar Chase.
That's the only player who's ever done it.
He's quite good.
You know, I bet I was just so disappointed
his third touchdown wasn't over 40 yards for the bonus.
What a bummer.
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Today's winner, and this is always your username over on our site, UtahGitMeTooa is the name
of the user.
Is this a point break?
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Josh is old enough.
Yes, I think it's reference.
It seems like, I don't know what the real line is, but I mean, Johnny Utah is all I can think of here.
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There is a Utah, get me two.
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I like it
Is it is Brooks actually not on a mic where he can be recorded or is he was he just dead silent out of it?
He's he's dead. It's both
It can be recorded his mic. I mean, he's just on like his laptop microphone. He's audio would be terrible
Identical to Jim Lovell from Apollo 13
when he was calling Houston.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Back in the 60s.
How you doing, Brooks?
All right.
Ah, there he is.
People do want to know that Brooks is alive and well.
Well, he was.
Here lies Brooks.
But no, Brooks, you'd be happy to know.
People have been asking about you.
They want to know, you're not here in studio with us,
and they want to know you're doing well,
and you're still with us.
And you are doing, you're still with us.
Right.
No, I'm here not doing well.
Okay.
There you go.
Well, you do have a 15 and three team in our dynasty.
Yeah.
So congrats on that. Oh yeah. You will be getting a four next to that three this week at least.
Okay let's go ahead and blitz through this news so we can get back into the matchups. Kyle Shanahan said he expects McCaffrey to play.
Technically limited on Thursday as was Joanne Jennings and Debo Samuel. The, for what it is worth, not that anyone is benching Chris McCaffrey.
I've got him, I'm overexposed to McCaffrey, but he's going in everywhere.
But we did have, so Matt, I apologize, I don't know if it's barrels or borrows, but he's
a writer for the Athletic, covers the 49 49ers and he did like a mailbag and his expectation of work was he thinks about he thinks
McCaffrey will be about a sweet 55% of the work and Mason will take about for
into that I say I don't believe you oh I do they I've been so firmly on that side
I was he also part of the beat reporters that said he's fine. I'm not trusting anybody
in San Francisco. That's my point. I just don't. If I was San Francisco, that would
be the ratio I would use. But I'll put it that way. But again, if you have McCaffrey,
it's fire them up. Yeah. So Amari Cooper limited. Keon Coleman has been ruled out.
Maybe Amari Cooper can make an impact, I don't know.
Probably won't put up chase numbers. Drake London, Kyle Pitts limited on Thursday,
monitor both of those.
Those are looking a little bit spicier
and more doubtful to me.
Early in the week there was some positivity
and it's gotten a little bit worse.
I've seen limited.
It's not a DNP.
A little dice here?
Yeah, a little dice here.
Michael Pittman remains sidelined on Thursday.
I think he's out of lineups for us regardless.
This one is, well, it's not a regardless because with Flacco in, Michael Pittman is someone,
a healthy Michael Pittman, someone I would like to play.
But the way that he's been working for his, what are you making that face for?
I don't know that you're saying that maybe
you stay away from the potential accidental pain. No I'm saying even if
he's healthy I mean that the last couple games that he's I mean the last game
with Joe Flacco was terrible the three before that he was over double-digit
points. I don't believe that that is true he looking at his game log He had three games in a row that were over double digits
Those are all in those were flat coke, but this is also a poor matchup
You know the their top five Buffalo against wide receivers, so I'm just saying even if he's healthy
I would rather go somewhere else
But my point was gonna be this has been hit the cadence for Pittman has been don't practice Wednesday practice on Thursday
So this is concerning that he'll even be out there.
We have news that Baker Mayfield's gonna play,
Jelly McMillan, Sterling Shepherd,
they practiced today, I think.
I thought, no.
I'm getting conflicting news.
So here's what happened.
I thought McMillan practiced.
No, he did.
He did not.
So I went to their official,
what happened was yesterday mid-show,
we were wondering if he was practicing,
and we had reporters taking photographs.
He was out there at practice.
So he was in pads, he had his helmet in his hand,
so he was there, but on the official report this week
from the team, he was listed as a full DNP.
But then he practiced today.
McMillan, Shepard, Whitehead, Gaines all practiced today.
Today's Friday.
So Thursday and Wednesday was full DNP.
Evans likely to be ruled out today.
All I'm saying is that if they're out there,
there's an opportunity with how Baker's thrown the football
for a spot start.
Darius Slaton ruled out.
Jonathan Brooks, questionable.
We expect Jonathan Brooks to make his debut.
Mike, would you like to publicly apologize
to London, England today?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm so sorry, London.
It's funny, in the morning, I even corrected someone
before the show.
You did.
Like, no, it's not in London.
It's in Germany.
And then, I don't know.
I told London to eat it, which actually, no, I stand by that.
Just in general? I stand by that. Just in general?
I stand by that in general of England.
It's the worst apology I've ever heard.
Well, I realized I don't have to apologize to England ever.
Oh, OK.
Really?
Yeah, you tea drinkers.
OK.
Whoa.
But now Germany.
Eat it.
You gotta eat it.
I'm sorry.
And by eat it, we do mean watch the Carolina Panthers
play football.
100%.
And pay for it.
We saw AJ Brown move to a full practice on Thursday.
That's big news.
Yeah.
Devontae Smith limited on Thursday with a hamstring.
Is this the first you've heard of that?
Yeah.
Last week he missed all of practice for personal reasons reasons the hamstring was a newer issue that popped up
So it's a little concerning but he was still practicing
AJ Brown practicing in full was really surprising. I had a full expectation he misses all this
I think is pretty good news obviously for Jalen hurts
Well Dallas gotters practicing in full Tony Pollard who did not practice on
Thursday this week or last week. He didn't even practice on Friday last week
and then played on Sunday. We're monitoring that. And Jason, Nico Collins
remains sidelined on Thursday. It's all part of the plan. They want to make sure...
What? Is there a special agent Oso over here? They need him to be healthy and so let's Part of the plan they want to make sure
They they they need him to be healthy and so let's just not run him until Sunday is my hope I mean, honestly today is gonna be everything. I can't imagine he plays in the game if he's a DMP on Friday
If he does play in the game and he doesn't practice all week
He will be in my lineup.
Yeah, but it's Sunday night.
And I think we'll know before Sunday morning.
I don't think you will.
Yeah.
Boom.
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Kill me!
That's what we were waiting for.
Here's your game plan.
He was trying so hard.
I'm fine over here.
Demarcus Robinson should be your backup. If you want to ride dirty. Oh, that's a good plan. If you trying so hard. I'm fine over here. Demarcus Robinson should be your backup.
If you want to ride dirty.
Oh, that's a good plan.
If you want to ride dirty on Sunday night,
get Demarcus Robinson for the Monday night game for the Rams,
who's been playing good football in a game that could
be a back and forth affair, that would be my emergency play.
You need to have a plan if you're
trying to get Neal out there.
Unless we get news today.
Maybe we get news today that he's officially out
And you don't think about it. Yeah, what if you don't what if you don't have a demarcus robinson available?
No, you look at other pivot option, correct? Well, let's think about that game tanked out probably not gonna be able to get him. I
Think I've got Jalen wattle. So he'll be my yeah. There you go. Yeah. All right
I've got Jalen Waddle, so he'll be my... Yeah, there you go.
There, all right.
Pfft.
Yeah, bye.
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I had no clue there was so much emotion
in fantasy football until today.
You know what I mean?
I believe, I believe is it today, is it Friday that they've got to be activated?
No, I know, but they've got to be activated from the IR in order to play.
So I think, I think we've got a couple more hours to find out if Nico's going to play
or not.
Whoever's out there, vet that, vet that for me, but I think we will know whether he's
activated off the IR and they're not going to activate him off the IR to not have him
play this week.
That makes sense. Hopefully you get that news today. I have to.
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Alrighty, the Giants Panthers in Germany. We covered it yesterday. The Patriots, Bills,
Bills, Colts, oh sorry, Patriots, Bears, Bills, Colts, Broncos, Chiefs, Falcons, Saints, 49ers,
Buccaneers. We covered all those games on yesterday's show, so if you want those breakdowns,
just click on yesterday's episode. You can go through those. Today we're going to start
with the Steelers at 6-2 and the 7-2 Washington commanders, both teams have the rarity of
tremendous success with a defensive minded head coach.
That has not been a common theme in recent years.
Drafking Sportsbook Washington minus 3 at home, the over-under is 45.
This is a fun one.
Yeah, it really is. You've got two good defenses, or at least,
the Steelers are a good defense,
and that's coming up against Jaden Daniels
and the amazing unstoppable offense
so far of the commanders.
I don't know how much you're going to be able to rely,
like the Steelers get to play Lamar Jackson
Twice a year 40 years. I think of all the defenses that Jayden Daniels is going to play against
This is one that is a little bit more prepared for it if that man I can see what you're saying stylistically. Yeah, it's hard to prepare. There's there's
Until Jayden Daniels, there's no one like Lamar, like even great mobile rushing quarterbacks, Jaylen Hurst,
Josh Down, they're just not like Lamar in how he runs,
when he runs.
But I feel a lot of similarities with Jayden Daniels
in when they choose to run and how they run.
So I do think the experience here helps.
That's an interesting little storyline. What else is interesting is the
Steelers defense is third in the NFL and points given up. The commanders are
third in the NFL and points scored per game. So you have a really good offense
and a talented defense. The commander's defense has been pretty good over the
last six weeks at stopping opposing players from scoring fantasy points. Second against
quarterbacks, second against wide receivers. They've become a little bit
more of a run funnel, difficult to throw on, which is surprising. And Adams-Lattimore.
Yeah, I mean, Marshawn-Lattimore being a part of this offense now, our defense,
they're just gonna continue to improve and that's where you have an effective
offense. Like, Cliff Kingsbury's where you have an effective offense.
Like Cliff Kingsbury is the head coach of the offense.
Like Dan Quinn doesn't touch that.
And Dan Quinn's a defensive minded head coach
that's had so much success in Dallas in recent years.
I mean, I don't know, has that been a storyline?
His departure from Dallas
and their deterioration as a defense.
I mean, this should be a fun game.
Russell Wilson gets a new weapon in Mike Williams. I don't know if he's going to be active this
week, but he will be a part of future game plans for this offense.
Najee Harris has been a top 13 running back in three straight weeks. And I
expect it to continue. He's averaging 20 opportunities a game. What I just said, they're turning
into a run funnel. You're still able to run on them. They're just a middle of the pack
defense against the run. So that will be, I think, a big game plan for the Steelers.
The Steelers defense on the year schedule adjusted six against wide receivers. They've been very
good. The last six weeks in fantasy points allowed though, it slowed down. Terry McLaurin sitting at wide receiver six on the year.
DK has his receiving line at 58 and a half yards.
Feels a little low for what you want from someone who's the wide receiver six on the
season.
I think it's just indicative that this is not an easy matchup for him.
The over under in the game is 45.
Brian Robinson has a limited practice on Wednesday.
I think he'll be back out there.
He's a tough, I think he's like the hard start of this.
If he goes-
He's been so good.
He's been, yes, he has scored a lot of touchdowns, which I mean, that's a product of this offense.
Are you saying you would or wouldn't play him?
I feel like I would get him in the lineup.
I would try, yeah.
I think I would, yeah.
Just the way that he's trained with his injury,
it's concerning.
Jalen Warren has yet to hit eight fantasy points.
Are we keeping him on the sideline of our lineups
until we get a good game?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, he was a waiver pickup that's like you can flex him,
but you're not getting a lot of points
He he hasn't hit double digit fantasy points this season and this isn't like some
Incredible matchup where the you know
You you want him in a situation where you're playing a team that gives up pass catching to the running back?
Because that's really his where he's going to eat in this offense george pickens
It's a tough matchup based on how the Commander's Divins
has played over the last six weeks.
I know you guys both like Pickens,
do you have hesitation here?
I hate the matchup, but it's a full go.
So we have, what, two games with Russ,
where, you know, it's five for 111
to score against the Jets, four for 74
against the Giants, so it's, the Jets, four for 74 against the Giants.
So it's, the matchup, you know,
a month ago looked far juicier than it does today,
but he's still a, Pickens is an every week play for me.
Zach or it's only had one reception last week.
He would be an emergency.
If he needed it.
Yeah, tight end.
Minnesota is six and two.
They take on Jacksonville, two and seven.
One thing we didn't mention was any update
to the Trevor Lawrence situation for Jacksonville.
The DK Sportsman decline in this game, by the way,
Minnesota minus seven on the road over unders 44.
It was minus four.
So Vegas.
So Mac Jones.
Confirms Mac Jones is gonna be playing football. Mac Jones is going to be playing football.
Mac Jones is worth negative three points.
That's a lot.
Yeah, one hour ago, Doug Peterson
said it's trending for Trevor Lawrence
not to play Sunday versus the Vikings.
Jacksonville is, I think, statistically
one of the best matchups you can have in fantasy
for every position.
For all of them, you adjust for schedule.
They're 29th against tight ends,
and that is their best score.
I mean, they're 31st against wide receivers
and running backs and dead last against quarterbacks.
So whoever you wanna start
on the Minnesota Vikings side of the ball, you can.
I think if you wanna take a shot,
Jordan Addison is one of those guys, it's on your bench,
you're not sure if you can play him,
sometimes you can, sometimes you can't.
Okay, this is a matchup where he could get it done.
I do think that the running game is especially,
because Trevor Lawrence isn't expected to play,
and I don't think that Mack Jones is gonna be able
to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings.
Whoa, hey, I'm just saying, if he is unable to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings. Whoa, hey, I'm just saying.
If he is unable to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings defense, then the Vikings get out
to a lead and it becomes the Aaron Jones show.
So Justin Jefferson, you're going to start him, but I think that Aaron Jones is just
such a great play this week.
Yep.
He is, he's set up for success.
Jefferson Jones, Darnold
Hawkinson your start of the week at tight end I'm all about it and Addison is a flex play on the other side fear and trembling
Not only do you you have players that I think independent of injury situations
you would be scared out of your mind to play with Mac Jones and
Now you have Brian Thomas jr. dealing with an injury. His rest of season
outlook took a bit of a hit with this Lawrence News, with the injury in recent weeks, ETN, Bigsby,
even Ingram, who we know has that connection with Lawrence, little unsettling not to have Lawrence
behind center, even for Ingram. It would really surprise me though
if Mac Jones doesn't throw the ball
to Evan Ingram a bajillion times.
Yeah, Evan Ingram I'm 100% fine with.
You know, this could be the backup narrative
where all of a sudden it becomes a Parker Washington game
who's played more snaps with the backup quarterback.
But Brian Thomas Jr. is not a must bench to me.
This is a matchup where, you know, they're going. I This is a matchup where they're going to need to throw him.
But he's in one of those considerations now
where you look at your bench and you say,
I've got another good option, or I don't.
Did you say they're gonna throw to him or throw him?
They're going to-
Like are they gonna literally-
I think they're going to throw near him.
Oh, okay, yeah, that's unfortunate.
But I don't wanna, I'm not doing any,
you cannot make me start Travis ETN Tank Bigsby,
De'Ernest Johnson, the Minnesota Vikings are
one of the best of the best at stopping running backs,
both in the passing game and the running game.
You're gonna be down. Plus the game script, yeah.
There's no world where I want to have a piece, you know, a shared committee piece of no fantasy
points. And by the way, Papa Josh back in the building all episode long today. Well,
so far, we'll see. I'm good. We'll see. The empty chair for the Falcon is known and we're
happy to report not on
a toilet. Might be on a toilet, but not because he's on a toilet.
Yeah, he's out of office today. We think for some sort of travel. Not positive.
Oh, he's blasting off. Tennessee 2-6, Los Angeles 5-3, DraftKings
Sportsbook Line, Los Angeles minus 7. This would be the Chargers. The over over-under is just 39 points doesn't give the Titans a lot of points yeah
that's I mean we think we'll love us will be back out there we don't know if
they'll go Mason we're off for another week we've got an injured Tony Pollard
and we have Calvin Ridley with a DK receiving line of 55!
Look, if you're the last man
standing, you've got a shot.
31% target share since the week 5 buy for Calvin Ridley.
That's what you want.
Since Hopkins has left this team, it's really made things nice for Ridley.
And the rest of season, I think Ridley is a common, you know must start type of player because you won't have
Consistency where every single week it's gonna be great
But I do think the majority of his weeks will be very very good and in order to get those you have to play him
Every week. So to me, he's just a starter the the Titans defense is doing the best it can do
But it's it's not it kind of wears down over the course of the game.
Now Dobbins.
Man, this line, DK's rushing line, 64 and a half.
He's averaging 19 opportunities a game.
Yeah, I like him in this game because of the fact
that I think they'll be out and ahead
for the majority of the game.
Were you surprised how high it was?
Yeah, 64, I mean, he's,
that's basically like a 50-50 shot of his box scores.
And they're a pretty good defense.
The Titans have played good defense most of the year.
It really comes down in part to their opponents.
When they played Buffalo and Detroit the last two of the last three weeks, they
gave up 34 and 52 points.
They break down eventually against these great defenses.
If it's not a great offense.
It reminds me of the Giants defense.
We all recognize the Giants defense has a lot of talent, but you just can't hold up.
So the question is, because they held up just fine against New England last week. They only gave't hold up. So the question is, because they can hold up, you know, they held up just fine against New England last week.
They only gave up 17 points.
They've held people to 20 or fewer points plenty of times when it's an average to below
average offense.
The question to me in this matchup is, are the Los Angeles Chargers an above average
offense or not?
They've got Justin Herbert, they're letting him throw the ball more.
Quinton Johnson has gotten involved. Lad McConkie has been a great
rookie wide receiver. But are they really a good offense or just average?
They're weird. I think they're all right, man. 23 or more points in three of
the previous four games. They are currently 24th in the NFL in points per game.
That's not good.
Well, I mean, they had, like, when they have a stinker, it's a stinker.
You know, 10 points against Pitt, 10 points against the Chiefs.
23 point implied point total.
What do you do with the wide receiver position?
Obviously, they're at home, they're favored.
We like Dobbins enough, I guess, or DK does.
But, McConkie and Johnston.
I think they are both playable.
If I have to pick I'm still going to go with Lad McConkie.
But Quinton Johnston has it.
You're on the McConkie side?
Yeah.
I'd be on the Johnston side.
I'll take the targets here.
Yeah the targets should be there for Lad.
Also Ligeria Snead I would guess he's more on Quentin
Johnson than in the slot on Ladd.
I guess I don't know for sure his health.
But assuming that he's there, that leads me more towards Ladd.
But it's just a Snead missed practice on Thursday.
OK.
I love when defensive great players miss.
Like all the defensive players,
I'm never rooting for them to play.
Yeah, I might try to avoid these guys.
I don't think there are voids.
I mean, they're not consistent in a good matchup.
And Tennessee is number one in the NFL
against wide receivers in fantasy.
Number one. Huh? Yeah. Number one. Where
are you seeing that? On our website Mike the fantasy footballers.com Tennessee is
first against fantasy wide receivers on the season and fantasy points given up.
If you look at schedule adjusted their third. Okay that's where. But if you look
at actual fantasy points given up statistically they are number one
against wide receivers. Last six weeks has not been as good and the combination of things haven't been as good for the Titans and with the evolving Chargers offense.
I think they're both playable.
Okay, any other names here? Tony Pollard? will be interesting to me of he hasn't practiced,
in which this is what's been going on,
he's not practicing, then he goes out there
and he's awesome, but at the same time,
Tajay Spears has not been available
for the Tennessee Titans, and Spears was a full practice
on Thursday, so I wonder if they,
is it possible that they take a different approach
because they have, Spears is a good player.
I mean, when your backup option is Julius Chestnut,
you're like, which you just made that up, Mike.
Good for Christmas time for you guys
who are already in it.
When that's the option, yeah, one's roasting on an open fire.
Tony Pollard is out there doing work.
I just, I have a little
bit of concern. But it's been a disappointing year for Spears. He did have 17 opportunities
two weeks ago before the injury. And yeah, it's a fair question. But I think-
With Pollard's injury and the difficult matchup, the Chargers are top five against running
backs. I think that Pollard is, he's gone from someone that has been a must start to,
you know, like I would rather have JK Dobbins
in this same game on the other side.
Oh yeah, what about Mostert?
I don't think I'd go down all the way to Mostert.
I would go Pollard, but Najee Harris,
Chuba Hubbard, those type of players.
Ramandre?
I've got them back to back in my rankings.
Ramandre against Chicago.
Who's it had in the rankings?
Eileen Ramandre.
I worry that they're gonna give Pollard a little
bit more rest if Spears is back. Obviously if Spears for some reason
after practicing in full doesn't play this week then that would completely
shift towards Pollard. The Philadelphia Eagles are 6 and 2. The Dallas Cowboys
3 and 5. The games in Dallas and boys listen to this one Philly mine is seven and a half on the road
over unders forty three and a half that gives Dallas just 18 points at home the
deck experience is over for maybe the rest of the season for a while and Mike
now understands that meat is a muscle. I've heard.
The last time that Dallas was a touchdown underdog at home was ironically when Cooper Rush was also a quarterback,
their quarterback, and they actually won it.
So we'll see what happens.
Their defense this year is so bad that it hurts.
It hurts unless you're playing against it for fantasy.
Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goddard. I think Micah is back. Oh that's a big deal.
So look that up for sure because you know the last time when you talk about
Cooper Rush won the game, they won the game but they only gave up 17 points and
this defense against the Eagles, you don't expect that.
I mean, right now, the Eagles are
implied for 25 and 1 half points.
So Micah Parsons would make a big deal.
He is planning on being back.
I think they're expecting him back.
So what are your new expectations for CD Lamb
with the Cooper Rush offense, for Rico Dowdell?
Those are the only two players.
I mean, Jake Ferguson, who's been disappointing.
Ferguson has been disappointing on the season.
It's tough to look back at the numbers,
because Cooper Rush, when he had his run,
four and one as a starter for the Cowboys,
that was two years ago, and it's like at that time,
CD Lamb was-
Was that the Schultz year?
It was, but-
Yeah, Dalton Schultz.
But it was like, I think Schultz must have been injured because one of the games, Jake
Ferguson actually did have a good game, but there was, like it was a combination of him
and Peyton Hendershot.
Like Ferguson wasn't the guy yet, so I don't know if we have strong evidence of what Cooper
Rush will do.
CD Lamb, meanwhile, was getting a very strong target share and he was not,
he was, he was great CD Lamb at that time. He wasn't looked at as elite, you know,
one of the top four, top three wide receivers in the league. So the injury to
CD Lamb's shoulder is a big-time bummer, but if he's out there, I feel confident
enough that Cooper Rush will hyper-target him. Yeah, he will get enough targets.
I think he'll get enough yards as well.
I would be skeptical of him entering the end zone often
while he's got Cooper Rush over the next month,
but I'm still, I don't believe that this is going to be
a fall from grace like we saw with Tyree Kill,
where he went from very, very relevant to completely on, you know, just not helping
you and actively hurting you on fantasy matchups.
I don't think you're getting that from CD Lam unless CD Lam's injury knocks him out
of the game.
What about Rico?
His DKA rushing lands at 42 and a half.
We know that the rushing is not where, or is not everything for Rico Dotto.
He's been getting tons of targets.
So it's hard for me to say, but I like Rico Dowdell's opportunity.
I like what we're seeing in Rico Dowdell.
I think I'm going to recommend starting Rico Dowdell often over the rest of
the season.
This isn't gonna be one of those weeks.
The Philadelphia Eagles defense has really stepped it up.
I mean, when you adjust for schedule
over the course of the season,
they're number three against running backs,
they're top 10 against quarterbacks,
they're number one against tight ends.
I mean, they're actually, they started slow
and they kind of sucked last year
and I think we need to quickly get on board
with how good the Eagles defense has been.
The encouraging part would be the six targets the last two weeks, but you can't, Quickly get on board with how good the the Eagles defense has been the
Encouraging part would be the six targets the last two weeks
But you can't you got to reset that with Cooper rush and yeah, we don't know what it'll be. It feels a little scary for sure
Monitor the Devante Smith hamstring news. We will keep an eye on it
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The Jets at three and six traveled Arizona
to take on the Cardinals who have won three straight games.
Cardinals are five and four.
What?
And the DKA Sportsbook line here now, it is moved.
It's the Jets minus two.
How dare you?
It did open at Arizona minus one.
Wow.
Yeah, even worse.
There's a lot of Jets.
How dare you, America?
A lot of Jets betting going on.
The R-Runders 46 and a half.
You know, the more relevant lines for how,
well, I guess that's not always true,
but oftentimes the line that comes out when the week opens
is more indicative of how Vegas sees the game,
as opposed to where it ends up sometimes,
because obviously the money's on the Jets in this one.
One win for the New York Jets and everyone goes crazy.
Yeah they lost to New England the week before.
Also they have a very good chance to win this game.
They do.
You know it's not going to be easy for the Cardinals secondary in defense to stop the
Garrett Wilson Devante Adams combination.
They are a schizophrenic defense.
At times they look
incredible. They, you know, were able to go into Miami and slow down that offense.
They were really good against Los Angeles, the Chargers, sacking Justin
Herbert. They added Baron Browning. You know, this should be, I think, a close game.
You know, to have the line flip between teams.
Jason, you brought up James Connors, your start of the week.
He still leads the NFL in forced miss tackles and was amazing last week.
Brice Hall, you're going to start.
Garrett Wilson, Devontae Adams, you're going to start.
I think the real question marks in this game revolve around both Kyler Murray and Marvin
Harrison, Jr. That them
independently for fantasy the confidence level you have with Kyler who you know
last five games three games inside the top ten two games where he was abysmal
yeah it's it's brutal here for Kyler because it's the the highs are fantastic
the highs are fantastic.
Kyler Murray really was a part of me winning this week, but then when it's low, it's not just,
oh, I didn't get a game from Kyler.
I lost actively because of Kyler.
That puts you in a really bad spot here.
Combine that with Marvin Harrison Jr.
I mean, he's hot and cold just like Kyler Murray,
but the DK reception line for him
is at three and a half.
Like that is.
Holy moly, for a wide receiver one.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what Jonathan Taylor has this week.
Right.
Jonathan Taylor is at three and a half receptions.
He's a running back.
That is.
So it's a really tough decision here.
I think it is indicative of what you'll see as well.
You've got Sauce Gardner, and the Jets
have a great pass defense.
This is going to be tough sledding for Marvin Harrison.
This is not a must-bench situation,
because the highs are very high not just for Kyler,
but also for Marvin Harrison this season.
However, I think there are plenty of other options
out there that you might be looking at,
you might have on your roster where you need to take
an honest look and see if you're willing
to start Marvin over them.
Marvin is not an auto start.
Marvin or Calvin Ridley?
I would go Ridley.
Marvin or?
That feels so bad.
It does.
Marvin or Hopkins against Denver?
Hopkins, easily.
I'll give you one that I think sounds really gross,
but if I had them, if I had both these rookies,
I would play Brian Thomas Jr. against Minnesota
over Marvin in this.
And that's not saying, like, I would play Marvin Harrison
over what we've seen from Jalen Waddell or Dunze,
or you know, I'm not just being-
All the Bears?
Well, all the Bears, yeah.
Did we mention the reception line's just three and a half?
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, that's very-
Tank Del, your start of the week.
Oh, Tank Del.
I'd go Tank Del.
I would go Del.
Especially with no Niko, of course.
Khalil Shakir, the PPR machine.
Shakira Shakira.
I think I go Shakira.
I think that one might be a match up dependent.
You know what I mean?
Shakira Shakira feels like he has a higher floor, but he doesn't have the ceiling
because you could still have you could still Shakira Shakira.
I love it.
I thought you were making like you were embarrassed that I didira. I love it. I thought you were making, like you were embarrassed
that I did that.
Oh no, it's good stuff.
And instead you just, then you go right into it yourself.
Like it's nice.
It's fun to do the Shakira voice.
I don't know why I'm doing that.
Talk like that.
Going back to...
Shakira.
Shakira, yeah.
No, I think we've exhausted Marvin Harrison.
I expect a bounce back game from Breece Hall Deandre Swift had a good game Devon H
And had a good game more importantly both of those players
The those are the last two opponents for the Arizona Cardinals while the Cardinals won both of those players had six
Receptions each and that is kind of a calling card for Breeze Hall
The the the open field tackle rate for the Cardinals are not good.
They're swarming right now, they're getting after it,
but if you're just talking about one-on-one tackles
against Bryce Hall, this is a matchup where you could see
a really big performance and his DK receiving
and rushing line is over 100 yards.
I got there.
You were fighting that, you knew what you wanted to say.
Yeah.
And it's a good point.
So we got Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football.
We'll talk about it momentarily.
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You think we're gonna run out of time
for Wheel of Shame today?
Yeah, if I work in this too.
No, we're turning it into a good hour.
We just gotta give better analysis.
Let's go back and talk about,
because I don't think we covered
Garrett Wilson, Devonte, Adams.
Let's talk about them for 15 minutes.
We didn't mention that Gary
Wilson since week five is the wide receiver one I mean that's dude I need
to eat a little bit of crow on Garrett yeah yeah I need to I need to like I
came out and I was pretty vehement about the fact that there's no way that Devante
Adams doesn't hurt Garrett Wilson I he but he did not hurt. Well, that's just not been he helped. That's not been true. Yeah
Yeah, both both of us were saying that it definitely seemed like uh, Garrett Wilson would be the number two in targets when you look at
expected fantasy points not just what happened and what the result was but
based on targets locations on the field what the expected fantasy points would be
Based on targets locations on the field what the expected fantasy points would be
Right now Garrett Wilson is ahead of the Vonte Adams in that number. That's the most surprising
I think revelation it does that stay Yeah, I don't know what what him getting integrated into that offense looks like change the head coach change of lots offensive coordinator
But because you saw Adams finally have a good week last week
Which you would expect them to get better and better as they
integrate into the offense.
I mean, he had a good week while Garrett Wilson's putting up
one of the best catches of the season.
Yeah, that was awesome.
The Michael Jordan catch?
That's all the time we have today.
See you later, everybody.
No, we have Sunday Night Football.
We got the 701 Lions against the 6 and 3 Texans.
The Draft King Sportsbook line, Detroit minus three and a half.
The over-under is 48 and a half.
On the surface, seems like it might be pretty fun.
We have Detroit, really, the cream of the crop of the NFL,
I think right now.
It's weird because I know that the Chiefs
have a better record, but they haven't looked
the way that the Lions have looked.
The Chiefs remind me a lot
of the Philadelphia Eagles last year.
The Eagles, I believe, were undefeated at seven and oh,
were beating everyone, but you're watching these games,
you're like, they don't look great.
They are winning and they're not a bad team,
but they don't look great.
Now, the Chiefs could get it together
now that they've got Hopkins,
and maybe they'll get some of their injured players back, you know, Pacheco and even Hollywood for the playoffs.
But I agree with you. Detroit looks like the best overall team in the NFL. If the Ravens defense was better, they could contend.
But the Lions are right now. They feel just unstoppable.
They also added a pass rusher.
So Darrius Smith coming over in the trade deadline.
You know, the interesting thing about them is
while one of the best offenses in football
on a regular basis, they've won six straight games.
Jared Goff is playing good football.
Gibbs, Montgomery, Amon Ra, always good starts.
They do have players that are like, you know,
Laporta and Goff,, golf middle of the pack,
Jameson Williams, kind of hot and cold.
Like, it's not a full every week start
for those three players.
No, no it's not.
I mean, Laporta is one of those guys
that you could really, really, really look and say,
do I wanna start him or a Hunter Henry type of player?
I think it's fair.
I mean, if you aren't questioning the,
should I just auto start Laporta,
you're making a mistake more often than you're not.
Right now, he's the tight end 15.
And for reference, if you're the tight end nine, you suck.
So, I mean, he's been really, really bad.
Not super involved.
If you look at his, the bye week and some of these
games were missing, Jameson Williams, one target, two targets, six, okay, three targets.
Those just aren't reliable numbers. He's a talented player but doesn't have the volume.
I hope you're not playing Sam Laporta this week and that you have a better option to
pivot to.
Or a better Otten.
Oh, Otten is an easy in over La Porta.
I've got guys like my start of the week, Hawkinson,
where I feel like I would rather play Hawkinson
than La Porta.
This is also not an easy matchup.
Texans are number two against tight ends
on the course of the season.
If you adjust for schedule, they're still top five.
Would you go La Porta or Jake Ferguson?
With Cooper Rush, I think I'm gonna stick with the
Stick with Laporta.
The team implied total.
The thing with Laporta is one big play can make your day.
That's the hope, but it's a good point.
It's also, I don't have Nico Collins anywhere,
so I don't care if he plays or not.
But I sure care about whether this is a great Sunday night football game and him being in
the game would make a big difference.
I'm not sure it really hurts Tank Dell in your start of the week if he's in there.
You need to keep up with the Lions and that's hard to do.
I mean, Tank Dell's DK receiving line, that's 64 and a half.
That's nice, that's not bad.
Double digit fantasy points in the of the last four weeks.
He, despite giving Jason Greif for the quad down,
I think that Tankdale is a good play.
Jumeir Gibbs, just to share some analytics with you,
number one in the NFL in average rushing speed,
13.45 miles an hour.
Number one in average yards before contact.
Number one in rush success rate,
and number one in EPA which
is estimated what points added so per carry so he has been so electric. No one
who has Gibbs is disappointed by him but I I think you're you want so much more
because it's Lamar Miller man just let it be let it be what it is. The ride is wild you look at the game
lock 16 18 12 11 22 1 6 18 it's beautiful. You watch the game I have
Gibbs. I've got Monty. You will not see him in a first quarter sometimes. The
first drive never never. The first drive belongs to my man David Montgomery.
Both of his cleats came off,
they'd put him out there barefoot on the first drive
before putting Gibbs in.
They'd burn a timeout.
They'd say, David is our first drive guy.
So it is frustrating.
Gibbs is charging up in that time.
It works.
Is that what he's doing?
Oh yeah.
I literally think it might be one of those things
where they're thinking we want someone to go
and hit the defense.
Like physically, we want to tenderize the meat.
We want to tenderize the meat for Gibbs, and it's working.
Not only has Gibbs been consistent,
and it's frustrating because you're not getting more,
but I was surprised today.
I looked at, I was looking at the running back,
you know, on the season, who was the best running back,
on a points per game basis.
Because some guys have missed games, like Joe Mixon,
some guys have had bye weeks, like Barkley,
and others have played the whole season so far.
The numbers get out of whack.
But Jameer Gibbs right now is the number five running back.
He's top five in points per game,
because they've already had their bye week.
He's just been outstanding.
And goodness, if David Montgomery goes down to injury,
I mean, he'll be the number one back.
Joe Mixon has been darn near the number one
back in football.
His fantasy finishes,
other than the game he got banged up in,
he's top 12 every week.
Yeah, he's been amazing.
They're so committed to giving him the ball
that it feels like you can survive with the inefficient game,
which he might have in this one.
Yeah, I expect him to have one,
but I just talked about Gibbs being number five
in points per game,
mixing his number three in points per game.
He's been absolutely outstanding.
He's at, yards per carry is not everything,
but he's at 4.8 right now,
which the highest mark of his career,
by far, was his sophomore year at 4.9.
Everything else is like 4.1 or lower.
It's like to be this far.
Have you seen Jason?
He's lost like 47 pounds.
Sometimes you peak the older you get.
Maybe, yeah.
Sometimes you peak the older you get.
Just wait until mixing in his 40s.
Sometimes you do, but for running backs in the NFL,
this is very backwards.
Jason and running backs are not a perfect comp?
Well, no.
That's more of an offensive lineman.
No, it's an incredible year.
I understand what you're saying, but he also
is a perfect fit for this offense.
And this game will be fun to watch,
because they're wearing those cool red jerseys.
Yeah, there's not much to decide here.
I think the only questionable thing of like,
do I really start or sit outside of Sam Laporta?
Is it Jamison or?
Are the quarterbacks.
Oh, I got you, Stroud and Goff.
Stroud and Goff.
Nah, nah.
I know, I'm kind of nah, nah on those two.
It's not a great week for a boot quarterback.
Nah, nah.
But I'd rather play Darnold.
I'd rather play, would you rather, here's a wacky question.
Would you rather play Mahomes?
Yeah. Really?
That one I'm not sure on.
Then who, Stroud or Goff?
Either, who would you rather play those two?
I'd play Mahomes over Goff.
Goff freaks me out, man.
Goff, they can win 52 to seven
and he could throw over like 90 yards.
I'd play Aaron Rodgers over both of them. I agree. Yeah that's a good point. We got a
couple quarterbacks in this one to talk about. Miami 2 and 6, Los Angeles 4 and 4, the Draft
King sportsbook line here. At home the Rams? Breaking news. Please be that Nico Collins
has been activated. Nico Collins has been designated for a return.
Yeah, baby!
Woo!
I needed it!
Woo!
OK, CJ Stroud's back in.
Well, that almost timed up with our matchup exactly.
I didn't see the news, so I genuinely, Brooks, I was a fish looking at a delicious lure, and I wasn't sure if
there was a hook in there or not.
But I'm going for it.
I'm eating the heck out of it.
Whoo, yes.
He has been designated to return slash return to practice, and we have made another roster
move that's from the Houston Texans.
Well that's great, because you know what, for Mixon to score touchdowns, they're going
to need to move beyond their own 30 yard line.
This is good for Sam Laporta. This is good for Jameson Williams. This is good for the Detroit Lions offense where it's like
they're not going to just run the ball if the Texans can't score. The Texans aren't the same without Nico and it's nice to have them back.
That is big-time news. Miami 2-6, Los Angeles 4 and 4, the Rams at home,
one point favorites over under his 50. That's a lot of points. Very excited
about what we're getting on Thursday and Monday this week. Miami and the Rams with
a 50 point over under outstanding. Lots of fantasy relevant players. Puka, Cooper
Cup, Kyron. You know, you said you're kind of out on Matthew Stafford.
I don't know why I keep returning to him this week with a little bit of excitement.
His DK passing yards line is 260.
Oh, that's really good.
I just feel like maybe, you know, he's obviously been very good with these two guys on the
field.
You have to contrast that with the Denver or I'm sorry, the Dolphin defense being so good against quarterbacks.
I just think they're onto something right now in Los Angeles and I don't know, like
if this game was on the road in Miami, I would be more out, but at home, controlled environment,
I'm kind of kicking against the analytics with Stafford.
I don't know how dumb that's going to look.
Let's actually dive a little deeper to see
because right now the Miami Dolphins are number two
against quarterbacks over the course of the season.
They're giving up on average negative 4.2 fantasy points
against what that quarterbacks average usually is.
However, you had Tua knocked out halfway
through the Buffalo game.
And so then you had a four game stretch
against Seattle, Tennessee, New England, and Indianapolis.
And in those four games,
where the offense of the Dolphins
could do absolutely jack squat.
And so the offense of the opposing matchups
really didn't have to do anything
while they lost all those games.
You had negative 5.9.
I remember the Richardson game too, where he was inept. Yeah, negative games. You had negative 5.9. I remember the Richardson game too where he was inept.
Yeah, negative 8.6, negative 5.9, negative 6.4.
Those were in the two illest games.
Two has been back for two games.
Against Arizona, Kyler had a great game.
He was eight points over his expectation or his average.
Then you had Josh Allen last week, two and a half points over his average. He's got a good average. And he's got a good average. Then you had Josh Allen last week, two and a half points over his average.
So he's got a good average and he's got a good average. So maybe the Dolphins, when
you look at them as a matchup, because this is what's been fear. This is what I've been
fearful of is you can run on the Dolphins. They're more of a run funnel. You're not passing
on the Dolphins well this year. And they do have some talent. They got Jalen Ramsey back
there. However, I think some of those metrics are, I don't know if it would be inflated or deflated,
but I think they're wrong. I think they are indicative of more of the Tua injury. So I
am warming up to Matthew Stafford in this matchup.
Well Vegas has a high over-under in this one. I mean, the eight-chant has been incredible. We still haven't had a big game from Tyreek Hill
since the return of Tua.
It could happen here, no question.
We're all waiting to see if Jaylen Waddle,
who you now no longer have to play, can get it done.
I think I will play him.
What do you think, man?
Lad McConkey or Jaylen Waddle?
What do you think, man? Iconk you're jailing wattle
What do you think man?
I'd be playing one of those two for sure. Yeah, I'd have to I will too Mike
Yeah, we're on with wattle right now is receiving lanes 42 and a half so
Jalen wattle is which is only
What it's only five more than John New Smith. Did your tooth almost come flying out your mouth?
I don't want to talk about it.
Oh, oh that is...
You might have heard it though.
So, we're in a weird place with Jalen Waddle.
Look, he...
When I'm looking at Waddle, I'm always looking at
how is he keeping pace with with Tyree kill
And it's like Tyree kills, of course
Way better for fantasy and he's a better wide receiver than Jalen waddle
But it's not like like Tyree kill himself is is not having these huge
Electric games even with two of back the last two it's been better than Waddle, but it's,
like they're both not succeeding, so.
That's interesting.
As long as they're both not succeeding,
I'm not gonna completely give up on Jared Waddle.
John-u and H-an are affecting both of them.
They are, yes.
With the yards per game, like Waddle's
averaging one yard more than John-u per game this year.
That is reason enough to sit Waddle down.
I will, see, again, when Tua was gone,
Johnu was everything.
I mean, Johnu was an incredibly,
he probably led the team in targets during that stretch.
I don't have that in front of me,
but just from memory, that's what it looked like.
Johnu was still involved with Tua?
It hasn't really stopped.
I mean, six targets, six targets.
Yeah, and Achan has been like eight targets, eight targets, so I agree that those two
guys have... 8chan. 8chan. Well that's that's a whole nother thing. That's a
website you don't want to go to. Oh that's right. That's not 4chan? No, no it is. Is there an 8chan too?
Yeah 8chan has got to be way worse. It's double worse, I guess.
Anyways.
Never mind.
I'm thinking about this game script wise, a 50 point over
under, what Waddle still can do.
He got a touchdown last week and had an insane play at the end
that took away like 20 of his yards.
If I'm looking at Lad McConkey against Tennessee or Jalen Waddle in this matchup
against, you know, a, a, a really high over, under and the 26th ranked defense against wide receivers,
I think I'm going to play Waddle in this matchup.
And he's cackling and I don't know why.
Go take a look at our league of record feed.
He just put Jamar Chase on the block.
And instantly stared into my sword.
He looked at me immediately.
You should trade for him.
He's on the block.
Al Borland looked at me immediately and just started shaking his head.
To give a little context for why Owl is so specifically mad. Owl the day before, I believe it was the
day before, was trying to trade for Chase. He poked the current manager of Chase and
said, hey, I don't know if you're looking to sell or not, but I'd love to look into
Chase. And he basically said, I'm not selling, I'm in it, and Chase is untouchable. And then
the next day makes a surprising offer to Andy's inbox of, would
you like Jamar Chase for not that much, much less than what Jeremy would have offered.
It was taking a shot on the Amari Cooper trade to Buffalo.
Yeah, I mean, you got to call your shot sometimes. And oftentimes those, the same manager called
his shot on Tyrone Tracy. Yeah.
And it felt like it was bad. And it was a brilliant move on Tyrone Tracy. And it felt like it was bad and it was a brilliant move
because Tyrone Tracy looks like could be a league helpful
winner down the stretch.
But that's why Owl is especially upset,
is because he feels like he should have Chase.
But bringing it back full circle.
He's available to be had now.
Send me your offers.
OK, so look, the decision is on the other side outside the quarterbacks. Send me your offers. Okay, so look the decisions on the other side
outside those the quarterbacks they're not hard.
Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup, Pukinakua. DeMarcus is an emergency play and a high
over under he could get something done. I think people are always hesitant when
you're the third option wide receiver but it can happen. I mean we saw it with
these guys on the field two weeks ago, two touchdowns.
That's the only place he thrives, Andy.
It's been the third option.
Yeah, that's fair.
Some injury updates before we get into
fancy face-off, apparently.
Dave Canales said it's a possibility that
Jonathan Brooks could play Sunday,
but not a guarantee.
Oh my gosh, I did see his status go from
healthy to questionable, so he is, you know, they signed a contract
and now they're like, maybe we can wait. They have activated him. So he will, he will
be part of the roster. He, if he is, he'll basically be a healthy scratch if he doesn't
play. But he should play football this year and goodness, I hope it's this week. By the
way, I want to make sure we're clear about the Nikko Collins news.
The Nikko Collins news was not that he's playing on Sunday.
The news was the first step of playing on Sunday,
which is designated to return to practice.
So now he can go be on the practice field.
That is 100% true, is not a guarantee he would play.
However, it would be a shocking situation to me,
because they didn't have to activate them.
They have plenty of time.
But you do need to activate them to know
if you can practice and be okay.
Right, correct.
But this means that they will have to have
taken another roster player and gotten
rid of that roster player to make room for Niko
ahead of the game.
It pushes me to the point where
I'm willing to risk it now. I'll try to find my emergency backup plan,
but my plan will now be Niko instead of taking a morning
player and just be like, I'll miss out on Niko this week.
I've got a couple trade-offers for Chase
that I'm going to have to decline.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to have to let them go.
All right, I guess we got gotta do this. Fantasy Face Off, presented by DraftKangs.
Well we have, we've got two weeks to pay out here with the Wheel of Shame. Jason lost two
weeks ago, I lost last week, and Mike is the winner of both. So.
I am the winner by not being the loser.
Are we spinning the wheel?
It's one spin.
It's one spin?
Wait, I didn't hear what you were saying
because I was putting Nico Collins on my roster.
I won this week.
Is that what you said?
Yeah, you won last week.
Yes, this past week.
Okay, awesome.
What I was saying was that you lost two weeks ago,
I lost this past week,
and Mike wins because he's not spinning the wheel.
Sure, I just wanted to make sure it was clear you did not win.
No one cares. Oh yeah. No one cares.
They're going to look at you like a winner when you're dressed up.
We've got to spin the wheel, Jason, and apparently it's one spin for both of us.
One spin to rule them all.
Wheel of shame.
I don't like this. Papa Josh back there smirking like he thinks
Well, so we got it was there something there was a pizza face mall cop
Fighting Irish. Oh then oh the gnome zone. That's not the bone zone
We're just like red or do you like blue?
I like red.
Okay.
I would start with beard, then go ears, then go hat.
Wait, we have a beard?
Yeah.
Mike can describe what the heck's going on.
So the boys are putting on their very shameful gnome outfits here.
Jason's going David the gnome.
Is there a beard problem?
No, there's beard. Oh, your beard's coming off my beard. Oh, no
I thought it was already ruined. It was just a backwards beard. It's very uncomfortable. It's a really long beard makes
No, put the ears on put the ears on do not come on get in here the gnome zone
Put the ears on put the ears on do not come on get in here the gnome zone
What are the ears so high up on Andy's head there? That's where they are
Not up to us. It's up to the costume
All right Wow, this is Andy looks like Merlin there are two idiots here
This is man we look so stupid.
What is the YouTube address Al?
YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers.
The ears look real stupid.
I don't like it.
At least I can breathe a little.
Oh my gosh this beard though.
Alright so we get a share of lineups looking like morons?
Yep.
This is so uncomfortable.
Alright, quarterback I'm going Brock Purdy 6,500. All right
I am I already hate my lineup
I'm going Justin Herbert against that Tennessee Titans matchup because he was only 5,200 a disrespectful price
I'm hoping that it works and he gets some you got some beard in your mouth over there
Proceed with your pick
We're live boys because I'm going Aaron Rodgers at 5,700
against the Arizona Cardinals.
OK, OK.
Come on, Andy, get it together.
What's wrong over there?
Easy and some beer.
I'm eating so much beer.
All right, we decided we weren't going to ban Alvin Kamara
because that would make the worst lineup.
So Alvin Kamara at 8,100, Deandre Swift at 6500,
my start of the week.
Oh.
I've got Alvin Kamara as well as at 8100,
and Jonathan Taylor at 7500 against Buffalo at home.
I had that as a lineup, but I did pivot,
I remade some stuff, but Alvin Kamara of course,
and then I went with Aaron Jones.
Yeah, 6700.
At 6700 against the Yaxville Yawgwaks.
I could not squeeze that extra 200 out to get him in there.
My wide receivers, this is why I couldn't,
Justin Jefferson at 8800,
Jawan Jennings stacked with Purdy at 5100,
and then at 4200, I am going Jalen McMillan.
If he doesn't play, it's a pivot into Sterling Shepherd at the same price.illan if he doesn't play it's a pivot into Sterling
Shepherd at the same price and what if what if he doesn't play then it is a
pivot into somebody ugly at 4200 okay I have Joanne Jennings as well as 5100 oh
wow I did not spend up on any wide receivers which is usually a terrible
idea well you got all that cash in Johnny Taylor yeah Johnny Taylor and
Alvin Kamara I've got Deandre Hopkins at 50 300 seems like a missed priced player and I'm stacking Justin Herbert with Quentin Johnson
So the Jerry's look out take your time
Watch out. I got a huge back
What was your third player?
Hopkins Jennings and Quentin Johnston. Okay, I like that for me. All right, go ahead, Mike.
Jennings is wiped because I have him as well.
Or Dustin Hopkins.
Dustin Hoffman?
Deandre Hopkins, 5,300.
I agree.
Oh, you have him too.
I hate the matchup against Denver,
but the price was too nice.
I feel like the price is indicative of, we're still not sure.
Like we could have a week where he disappears.
Well, they were Monday Night Football, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, so Monday Night Football, the prices are out.
Monday Night Football players, a little cheat code
for future playing.
Monday Night Football players don't get their price
adjusted based on performance.
But I got Roger, so of course, I have the number one
fantasy wide receiver since week five, Garrett Wilson at 7,200.
I almost had Adams in my lap, I pivoted off of him.
My tight end Hunter Henry at 3,900.
My defense, the Patriots at 2,500 against Chicago.
I feel like they are priced really cheaply
and yet can do some stuff.
And then I am double stacking.
I took the affordable Ricky Pierce Hall
at 4,400. Oh okay. I'm going to Joann Jennings. I'm very San Francisco oriented this week.
I paid down for Joann Johnson at tight end 3,300 and I paid up a little bit on my defense for the
Bears on the other side of your New England Patriots but most of my money went to the fact
that not only do I have Alan Kamara and Jonathan Taylor, but I've also got Breece Hall at 7600.
Ooh, look at this guy.
So Breece Hall gets rushing touchdowns, Mike, because you've got the Aaron Rodgers-Garrett
Wilson stack.
That's going to be a big me versus you.
I have the Patriots as well, and then I'm running out 12 personnel, boys.
I thought about it this week, man.
At the tight end position.
55!
Mr. Cade Otten at 5,500 and then Hunter Henry is just.
Oh, okay.
Hunter Henry's like the cheapest player
who I think actually will get production.
3,900.
So that's my lineup.
What's your defense?
The Patriots.
Okay, yeah, they were affordable.
Yeah, I wish I could get the Bears but why don't you take over segment out not
not because I'm choking on gnome hair you guys look fabulous
it's a really it's a really look this is a real tweedle-dee-tweedle dumb
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