Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 10 Matchups + Double Shame, Chase BOOM! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

What a kickoff to Week 10! On today’s fantasy football podcast, reactions to Thursday Night Football, and more matchup previews! Plus, important injury updates and fantasy football start/sit decisio...ns. And don’t miss a very special edition of the Wheel of Shame! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 8th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (02:32) - TNF Recap (10:20) - FootClan Friday (12:00) - NFL News (19:55) - Fantasy Forecast (20:20) - Steelers at Commanders (25:25) - Vikings at Jaguars (29:20) - Titans at Chargers (35:35) - Eagles at Cowboys (40:00) - Jets at Cardinals (47:15) - Lions at Texans (55:55) - Dolphins at Rams (01:04:50) - Fantasy Faceoff/Wheel of Shame Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:56 See terms at sephora.com for complete details. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in That was it was way too much extra joy. Oh, I feel about 53.9 Points worth of extra joy this fine a morning Me you're over there Acting like you had both burrow and chase. No, which I didn't I didn't I only had chase. I'm out of here You guys suck my hair our main dynasty league Mike's rocking the stack of Joe burrow
Starting point is 00:01:58 Jamar chase and over in League of Record former champ Andy Holloway was defending was gifted record former champ Andy Holloway was gifted Jamar Chase in a trade that just showed up in his inbox for basically a Mari Cooper in garbage. And so yeah, it's a good day to be you guys. It's a bad day to sit between you. Yeah. And I can tell you right now as I slide over to Deucer's alley, there's a man in a black hat in the shadows just miserable. Yeah, just miserable over there Am I right now? Yeah Fortunately, I didn't have to play against either burrow or chase. I did do that I did that check in my other leagues this morning Yeah, the very scary click into each league to see if I played burrow chase or Lamar. That's what I mean
Starting point is 00:02:42 I literally I tweeted this out, but it wasn't a joke. I was afraid to open the Sleeper app and scroll through my teams, because I wasn't sure who my matchups. Which games are over? Yeah, exactly, I was like, oh gosh, did I, because I don't have Jamar Chase, I have him in our family league,
Starting point is 00:02:59 which is probably our, I mean, we kind of don't care about that. Um, but all the other leagues that I'm in, is probably our, I mean, we kind of don't care about that. But all the other leagues that I'm in, I, Jeremy just came on set and put Jamar Chase down. Oh man. But I don't have them anywhere, so I knew there's a good chance I'm playing against them somewhere. Happy to report. Your weeks aren't over? I can still play this week.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Look, I know not everybody's happy, because a lot of you played against them and we got everything we wanted on Thursday night football 3534 Ravens over the Bengals face masks. They can't call them in the last 30 seconds of a game You know, I saw someone I saw someone tweet this out and it's It's legitimate. I wonder you know the going for to to win the game at the end Do you factor in that they're like calling those plays like a Hail Mary? You know like they should not be they shouldn't it's a that is a play where you shouldn't just be able to go like Hulk smash everybody on the play, but that's kind of what happened
Starting point is 00:04:01 and and I also at the same time, I do understand that you don't want the refs to be the reason for the last play, so swallow close call whistles there, but I don't know how close calls those were. No, you can't just, if you start the play with any of those mindsets, I'm gonna let things go, or I'm gonna call it too tight. You've already lost. Like you need to call the play the play.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You need to get rid of the context and just call it. And now we've seen not going for two, you lost. Going for two, you lost. Like we just saw this with Tampa on Monday Night Football, right? Like you're condemned for not going? Yeah, I don't blame them for going for it. Oh, I don't condemn them at all.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I think it was a penalty. I think it was a bad call. I also think that one play doesn't define the whole game and we just have to live with what it was. Maybe stop, you know, the Baltimore Ravens from scoring 28 in the second half. There was a holding penalty called, you know, on Jamar Chase early in the game in the end zone
Starting point is 00:05:01 that was famed for. Oh, yeah, that was never. No, that wasn't real. So, you know, they're gonna get it wrong. No, going for two was the, that was the right call. 100 zone that was phantom. Oh, yeah, that was not very good. That wasn't real. So they're going to get it wrong. Going for two was the right call. 100%. I mean, think of the conversion rate of a two-point conversion. It's right around 50%. And then if you go into overtime in a tie,
Starting point is 00:05:19 flipping a coin, about 50%. And if you lose that, whoever got the ball was winning the game because defenses couldn't, the defense was done. Definitely a crazy night. I hate losing a game not throwing it to my best player. I think that was part of my criticism of the play. I know that you're going to get a lot of coverage on Jamar Chase, but I really hate losing, throwing it to a tight end, like the catch percentage of targeting him there, I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:51 But Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, amazing. Derek Henry, got into the end zone. Mostly stifled on the ground, but got into the end zone. I think a big storyline is Chase Brown. However, I do think this was more a product of the defense that the Baltimore Ravens chose to play in this game. They ridiculously, they simultaneously played a defense exclusively built to stop Jamar Chase and failed at that
Starting point is 00:06:19 and gave up the underneath all game long. Nine receptions for Chase Brown. So if you had Chase in your name, you put up a big night. gave up the underneath all game long. Nine receptions for Chase Brown. So if you had Chase in your name, you put up a big night. It was a very good game for him. And then on the other side, best game of the year for Mark Andrews,
Starting point is 00:06:32 six for 68 and a touchdown. Looked like vintage Andrews, and it's not a surprise you needed to do it when you're in a game that's got 69 points. And likely was a no. Yeah, exactly. I feel like he should really just, you know, probably go on IR, rest that hamstring. Likely?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Likely, yeah. Likely should just really take the rest. Save yourself for the playoffs, you know what I mean? Yeah. You're playoff-bound, you're a Super Bowl contender, why don't you let the old guy get the wear and tear? Exactly. Come back in week 18 for a little bit of reps
Starting point is 00:07:06 before the playoffs, but just get healthy, likely. And just two targets for Deontay Johnson in this game. Not very involved yet for those monitoring that. And I just, look, this is not a sponsor comment at all. People thought it was. I just wanna say this because maybe it will be aspirational for other networks. Oh yeah, I saw you tweet.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's true. Dear goodness, the NFL looks good on Prime. It is like you bought an upgraded graphics card for the NFL every week that I turn it on. I cannot believe how crystal clear and amazing the production is, and I hope we move our way up on the other networks.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I think it's objectively superior. The other game modes as well, or whatever they call them, the streams where you can... Their version of the Alt 22. It's like the X-Ray or... X-Ray, yeah, I think that's it. I mean, they just have the technology where it needs to be. Which we do know this, like we've sat down with them before in years past just talking to them about the NFL.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And we know how much effort they put into it. When you turn the TV on in this day and age and you can be like, oh my gosh, those jerseys. I don't know. Oh my goodness, those Ravens jerseys. It was just crystal clear, I don't know my goodness those Ravens jerseys it was just crystal clear I don't know they got some kind of special technology can we get those cameras can we get them in the studio I think it's all system the it just the infrastructure for the for the stream I guess we wouldn't want those cameras in this studio because we look I want a
Starting point is 00:08:41 Gaussian blur that soap opera filter over here. Can we blur this a bit? We do better with the blur. So the game was not great for everybody. Sticky Gussicky was icky at 4 for 30. The right answer was Tanner Hudson at the tight end position. It was 6 for 42 in his score. And somehow, Zay Flowers was 4 for 34 and like this was the old school Ze Flowers I'm not I'm not worried about it at all but just it was frustrating of
Starting point is 00:09:13 Ze Flowers is so good like he like his talent level to me is absolutely off the charts to the point of his his plays are so impactful that in my head I'm like, oh, Alzey Flowers is having a great game. And then you get into the fourth quarter and you look at the numbers, you go, oh, no, he is not. Well, a lot of the passing yardage that came late when they were going back and forth, taking leads, getting them back,
Starting point is 00:09:40 there was an 84 yard touchdown to Tylin Wallace, whoever that is. You know, that takes a drive away from Zay Flowers. Andrews was more involved, but yeah, I don't think you go away from him. You just are sad. I mean, I was hungry for more, now I'm starving for more Zay Flowers.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah, it was a little bit like the situation with Chase last week with Burrow. He threw five touchdowns, none to Chase. This week, four touchdowns for Lamar, none flowers. Yeah, it was a little bit like the situation with Chase last week with Burrow. He threw five touchdowns, none to Chase. This week four touchdowns for Lamar, none does eight flowers. Bet on good players. Yeah, they'll work out in the end. I'm not complaining about Chase no more.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Mike has been the experienced Chase manager. In all the years of Chase's career, I played seven, eight leagues a year. I have never had Jamar Chase on my team. And so I added him a couple weeks ago, just crafted a beautiful trade, the best trade. I did the best. It was a really good trade for him.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And I hadn't gotten this game yet, Mike, and ooh, it's sweet. It is amazing. And the- Ooh, so good. This is the first time that I can remember that like I won on a Thursday I have lost so many times on Thursday night and it is the worst feeling Brooks do you how do you feel how you feel Brooks yeah all right yeah that's even chime in I I saw Nathan Yonkey tweet out the complete list
Starting point is 00:11:06 of multiple 260 yard receiving games in NFL history is Jamar Chase. That's the only player who's ever done it. He's quite good. You know, I bet I was just so disappointed his third touchdown wasn't over 40 yards for the bonus. What a bummer. It's Friday. It's Friday. It's Friday. It's Friday. It's Friday. It's Friday.
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Starting point is 00:11:47 Today's winner, and this is always your username over on our site, UtahGitMeTooa is the name of the user. Is this a point break? I do not... Is it Josh? Josh is old enough. Yes, I think it's reference. It seems like, I don't know what the real line is, but I mean, Johnny Utah is all I can think of here.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Well, congratulations. Thanks for supporting the show. Let's jump into the news. News and notes from around the league, presented by USAA Insurance. I do. No, no, I had to confirm it. There is a Utah, get me two.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Oh, so it's a point-and-break reference. It is. OK. I confirm it. There is a Utah get me to oh, so it's a point-break reference. It is okay I like it Is it is Brooks actually not on a mic where he can be recorded or is he was he just dead silent out of it? He's he's dead. It's both It can be recorded his mic. I mean, he's just on like his laptop microphone. He's audio would be terrible Identical to Jim Lovell from Apollo 13 when he was calling Houston. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You know what I mean? Back in the 60s. How you doing, Brooks? All right. Ah, there he is. People do want to know that Brooks is alive and well. Well, he was. Here lies Brooks.
Starting point is 00:13:03 But no, Brooks, you'd be happy to know. People have been asking about you. They want to know, you're not here in studio with us, and they want to know you're doing well, and you're still with us. And you are doing, you're still with us. Right. No, I'm here not doing well.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Okay. There you go. Well, you do have a 15 and three team in our dynasty. Yeah. So congrats on that. Oh yeah. You will be getting a four next to that three this week at least. Okay let's go ahead and blitz through this news so we can get back into the matchups. Kyle Shanahan said he expects McCaffrey to play. Technically limited on Thursday as was Joanne Jennings and Debo Samuel. The, for what it is worth, not that anyone is benching Chris McCaffrey. I've got him, I'm overexposed to McCaffrey, but he's going in everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But we did have, so Matt, I apologize, I don't know if it's barrels or borrows, but he's a writer for the Athletic, covers the 49 49ers and he did like a mailbag and his expectation of work was he thinks about he thinks McCaffrey will be about a sweet 55% of the work and Mason will take about for into that I say I don't believe you oh I do they I've been so firmly on that side I was he also part of the beat reporters that said he's fine. I'm not trusting anybody in San Francisco. That's my point. I just don't. If I was San Francisco, that would be the ratio I would use. But I'll put it that way. But again, if you have McCaffrey, it's fire them up. Yeah. So Amari Cooper limited. Keon Coleman has been ruled out.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Maybe Amari Cooper can make an impact, I don't know. Probably won't put up chase numbers. Drake London, Kyle Pitts limited on Thursday, monitor both of those. Those are looking a little bit spicier and more doubtful to me. Early in the week there was some positivity and it's gotten a little bit worse. I've seen limited.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It's not a DNP. A little dice here? Yeah, a little dice here. Michael Pittman remains sidelined on Thursday. I think he's out of lineups for us regardless. This one is, well, it's not a regardless because with Flacco in, Michael Pittman is someone, a healthy Michael Pittman, someone I would like to play. But the way that he's been working for his, what are you making that face for?
Starting point is 00:15:24 I don't know that you're saying that maybe you stay away from the potential accidental pain. No I'm saying even if he's healthy I mean that the last couple games that he's I mean the last game with Joe Flacco was terrible the three before that he was over double-digit points. I don't believe that that is true he looking at his game log He had three games in a row that were over double digits Those are all in those were flat coke, but this is also a poor matchup You know the their top five Buffalo against wide receivers, so I'm just saying even if he's healthy I would rather go somewhere else
Starting point is 00:15:57 But my point was gonna be this has been hit the cadence for Pittman has been don't practice Wednesday practice on Thursday So this is concerning that he'll even be out there. We have news that Baker Mayfield's gonna play, Jelly McMillan, Sterling Shepherd, they practiced today, I think. I thought, no. I'm getting conflicting news. So here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I thought McMillan practiced. No, he did. He did not. So I went to their official, what happened was yesterday mid-show, we were wondering if he was practicing, and we had reporters taking photographs. He was out there at practice.
Starting point is 00:16:32 So he was in pads, he had his helmet in his hand, so he was there, but on the official report this week from the team, he was listed as a full DNP. But then he practiced today. McMillan, Shepard, Whitehead, Gaines all practiced today. Today's Friday. So Thursday and Wednesday was full DNP. Evans likely to be ruled out today.
Starting point is 00:16:52 All I'm saying is that if they're out there, there's an opportunity with how Baker's thrown the football for a spot start. Darius Slaton ruled out. Jonathan Brooks, questionable. We expect Jonathan Brooks to make his debut. Mike, would you like to publicly apologize to London, England today?
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so sorry, London. It's funny, in the morning, I even corrected someone before the show. You did. Like, no, it's not in London. It's in Germany. And then, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I told London to eat it, which actually, no, I stand by that. Just in general? I stand by that. Just in general? I stand by that in general of England. It's the worst apology I've ever heard. Well, I realized I don't have to apologize to England ever. Oh, OK. Really? Yeah, you tea drinkers.
Starting point is 00:17:37 OK. Whoa. But now Germany. Eat it. You gotta eat it. I'm sorry. And by eat it, we do mean watch the Carolina Panthers play football.
Starting point is 00:17:47 100%. And pay for it. We saw AJ Brown move to a full practice on Thursday. That's big news. Yeah. Devontae Smith limited on Thursday with a hamstring. Is this the first you've heard of that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Last week he missed all of practice for personal reasons reasons the hamstring was a newer issue that popped up So it's a little concerning but he was still practicing AJ Brown practicing in full was really surprising. I had a full expectation he misses all this I think is pretty good news obviously for Jalen hurts Well Dallas gotters practicing in full Tony Pollard who did not practice on Thursday this week or last week. He didn't even practice on Friday last week and then played on Sunday. We're monitoring that. And Jason, Nico Collins remains sidelined on Thursday. It's all part of the plan. They want to make sure...
Starting point is 00:18:43 What? Is there a special agent Oso over here? They need him to be healthy and so let's Part of the plan they want to make sure They they they need him to be healthy and so let's just not run him until Sunday is my hope I mean, honestly today is gonna be everything. I can't imagine he plays in the game if he's a DMP on Friday If he does play in the game and he doesn't practice all week He will be in my lineup. Yeah, but it's Sunday night. And I think we'll know before Sunday morning. I don't think you will. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Boom. Ha ha ha ha. Listen, you have. Kill me! That's what we were waiting for. Here's your game plan. He was trying so hard. I'm fine over here.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Demarcus Robinson should be your backup. If you want to ride dirty. Oh, that's a good plan. If you trying so hard. I'm fine over here. Demarcus Robinson should be your backup. If you want to ride dirty. Oh, that's a good plan. If you want to ride dirty on Sunday night, get Demarcus Robinson for the Monday night game for the Rams, who's been playing good football in a game that could be a back and forth affair, that would be my emergency play. You need to have a plan if you're
Starting point is 00:19:42 trying to get Neal out there. Unless we get news today. Maybe we get news today that he's officially out And you don't think about it. Yeah, what if you don't what if you don't have a demarcus robinson available? No, you look at other pivot option, correct? Well, let's think about that game tanked out probably not gonna be able to get him. I Think I've got Jalen wattle. So he'll be my yeah. There you go. Yeah. All right I've got Jalen Waddle, so he'll be my... Yeah, there you go. There, all right.
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Starting point is 00:21:18 I had no clue there was so much emotion in fantasy football until today. You know what I mean? I believe, I believe is it today, is it Friday that they've got to be activated? No, I know, but they've got to be activated from the IR in order to play. So I think, I think we've got a couple more hours to find out if Nico's going to play or not. Whoever's out there, vet that, vet that for me, but I think we will know whether he's
Starting point is 00:21:40 activated off the IR and they're not going to activate him off the IR to not have him play this week. That makes sense. Hopefully you get that news today. I have to. It's time for Fantasy Forecast presented by Draft King Sportsbook. Alrighty, the Giants Panthers in Germany. We covered it yesterday. The Patriots, Bills, Bills, Colts, oh sorry, Patriots, Bears, Bills, Colts, Broncos, Chiefs, Falcons, Saints, 49ers, Buccaneers. We covered all those games on yesterday's show, so if you want those breakdowns, just click on yesterday's episode. You can go through those. Today we're going to start
Starting point is 00:22:20 with the Steelers at 6-2 and the 7-2 Washington commanders, both teams have the rarity of tremendous success with a defensive minded head coach. That has not been a common theme in recent years. Drafking Sportsbook Washington minus 3 at home, the over-under is 45. This is a fun one. Yeah, it really is. You've got two good defenses, or at least, the Steelers are a good defense, and that's coming up against Jaden Daniels
Starting point is 00:22:52 and the amazing unstoppable offense so far of the commanders. I don't know how much you're going to be able to rely, like the Steelers get to play Lamar Jackson Twice a year 40 years. I think of all the defenses that Jayden Daniels is going to play against This is one that is a little bit more prepared for it if that man I can see what you're saying stylistically. Yeah, it's hard to prepare. There's there's Until Jayden Daniels, there's no one like Lamar, like even great mobile rushing quarterbacks, Jaylen Hurst, Josh Down, they're just not like Lamar in how he runs,
Starting point is 00:23:32 when he runs. But I feel a lot of similarities with Jayden Daniels in when they choose to run and how they run. So I do think the experience here helps. That's an interesting little storyline. What else is interesting is the Steelers defense is third in the NFL and points given up. The commanders are third in the NFL and points scored per game. So you have a really good offense and a talented defense. The commander's defense has been pretty good over the
Starting point is 00:24:03 last six weeks at stopping opposing players from scoring fantasy points. Second against quarterbacks, second against wide receivers. They've become a little bit more of a run funnel, difficult to throw on, which is surprising. And Adams-Lattimore. Yeah, I mean, Marshawn-Lattimore being a part of this offense now, our defense, they're just gonna continue to improve and that's where you have an effective offense. Like, Cliff Kingsbury's where you have an effective offense. Like Cliff Kingsbury is the head coach of the offense. Like Dan Quinn doesn't touch that.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And Dan Quinn's a defensive minded head coach that's had so much success in Dallas in recent years. I mean, I don't know, has that been a storyline? His departure from Dallas and their deterioration as a defense. I mean, this should be a fun game. Russell Wilson gets a new weapon in Mike Williams. I don't know if he's going to be active this week, but he will be a part of future game plans for this offense.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Najee Harris has been a top 13 running back in three straight weeks. And I expect it to continue. He's averaging 20 opportunities a game. What I just said, they're turning into a run funnel. You're still able to run on them. They're just a middle of the pack defense against the run. So that will be, I think, a big game plan for the Steelers. The Steelers defense on the year schedule adjusted six against wide receivers. They've been very good. The last six weeks in fantasy points allowed though, it slowed down. Terry McLaurin sitting at wide receiver six on the year. DK has his receiving line at 58 and a half yards. Feels a little low for what you want from someone who's the wide receiver six on the
Starting point is 00:25:35 season. I think it's just indicative that this is not an easy matchup for him. The over under in the game is 45. Brian Robinson has a limited practice on Wednesday. I think he'll be back out there. He's a tough, I think he's like the hard start of this. If he goes- He's been so good.
Starting point is 00:25:55 He's been, yes, he has scored a lot of touchdowns, which I mean, that's a product of this offense. Are you saying you would or wouldn't play him? I feel like I would get him in the lineup. I would try, yeah. I think I would, yeah. Just the way that he's trained with his injury, it's concerning. Jalen Warren has yet to hit eight fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Are we keeping him on the sideline of our lineups until we get a good game? Yeah, I think so. I mean, he was a waiver pickup that's like you can flex him, but you're not getting a lot of points He he hasn't hit double digit fantasy points this season and this isn't like some Incredible matchup where the you know You you want him in a situation where you're playing a team that gives up pass catching to the running back?
Starting point is 00:26:38 Because that's really his where he's going to eat in this offense george pickens It's a tough matchup based on how the Commander's Divins has played over the last six weeks. I know you guys both like Pickens, do you have hesitation here? I hate the matchup, but it's a full go. So we have, what, two games with Russ, where, you know, it's five for 111
Starting point is 00:26:59 to score against the Jets, four for 74 against the Giants, so it's, the Jets, four for 74 against the Giants. So it's, the matchup, you know, a month ago looked far juicier than it does today, but he's still a, Pickens is an every week play for me. Zach or it's only had one reception last week. He would be an emergency. If he needed it.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah, tight end. Minnesota is six and two. They take on Jacksonville, two and seven. One thing we didn't mention was any update to the Trevor Lawrence situation for Jacksonville. The DK Sportsman decline in this game, by the way, Minnesota minus seven on the road over unders 44. It was minus four.
Starting point is 00:27:41 So Vegas. So Mac Jones. Confirms Mac Jones is gonna be playing football. Mac Jones is going to be playing football. Mac Jones is worth negative three points. That's a lot. Yeah, one hour ago, Doug Peterson said it's trending for Trevor Lawrence not to play Sunday versus the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Jacksonville is, I think, statistically one of the best matchups you can have in fantasy for every position. For all of them, you adjust for schedule. They're 29th against tight ends, and that is their best score. I mean, they're 31st against wide receivers and running backs and dead last against quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:28:16 So whoever you wanna start on the Minnesota Vikings side of the ball, you can. I think if you wanna take a shot, Jordan Addison is one of those guys, it's on your bench, you're not sure if you can play him, sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. Okay, this is a matchup where he could get it done. I do think that the running game is especially,
Starting point is 00:28:34 because Trevor Lawrence isn't expected to play, and I don't think that Mack Jones is gonna be able to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings. Whoa, hey, I'm just saying, if he is unable to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings. Whoa, hey, I'm just saying. If he is unable to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings defense, then the Vikings get out to a lead and it becomes the Aaron Jones show. So Justin Jefferson, you're going to start him, but I think that Aaron Jones is just such a great play this week.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yep. He is, he's set up for success. Jefferson Jones, Darnold Hawkinson your start of the week at tight end I'm all about it and Addison is a flex play on the other side fear and trembling Not only do you you have players that I think independent of injury situations you would be scared out of your mind to play with Mac Jones and Now you have Brian Thomas jr. dealing with an injury. His rest of season outlook took a bit of a hit with this Lawrence News, with the injury in recent weeks, ETN, Bigsby,
Starting point is 00:29:35 even Ingram, who we know has that connection with Lawrence, little unsettling not to have Lawrence behind center, even for Ingram. It would really surprise me though if Mac Jones doesn't throw the ball to Evan Ingram a bajillion times. Yeah, Evan Ingram I'm 100% fine with. You know, this could be the backup narrative where all of a sudden it becomes a Parker Washington game who's played more snaps with the backup quarterback.
Starting point is 00:30:01 But Brian Thomas Jr. is not a must bench to me. This is a matchup where, you know, they're going. I This is a matchup where they're going to need to throw him. But he's in one of those considerations now where you look at your bench and you say, I've got another good option, or I don't. Did you say they're gonna throw to him or throw him? They're going to- Like are they gonna literally-
Starting point is 00:30:19 I think they're going to throw near him. Oh, okay, yeah, that's unfortunate. But I don't wanna, I'm not doing any, you cannot make me start Travis ETN Tank Bigsby, De'Ernest Johnson, the Minnesota Vikings are one of the best of the best at stopping running backs, both in the passing game and the running game. You're gonna be down. Plus the game script, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:44 There's no world where I want to have a piece, you know, a shared committee piece of no fantasy points. And by the way, Papa Josh back in the building all episode long today. Well, so far, we'll see. I'm good. We'll see. The empty chair for the Falcon is known and we're happy to report not on a toilet. Might be on a toilet, but not because he's on a toilet. Yeah, he's out of office today. We think for some sort of travel. Not positive. Oh, he's blasting off. Tennessee 2-6, Los Angeles 5-3, DraftKings Sportsbook Line, Los Angeles minus 7. This would be the Chargers. The over over-under is just 39 points doesn't give the Titans a lot of points yeah
Starting point is 00:31:29 that's I mean we think we'll love us will be back out there we don't know if they'll go Mason we're off for another week we've got an injured Tony Pollard and we have Calvin Ridley with a DK receiving line of 55! Look, if you're the last man standing, you've got a shot. 31% target share since the week 5 buy for Calvin Ridley. That's what you want. Since Hopkins has left this team, it's really made things nice for Ridley.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And the rest of season, I think Ridley is a common, you know must start type of player because you won't have Consistency where every single week it's gonna be great But I do think the majority of his weeks will be very very good and in order to get those you have to play him Every week. So to me, he's just a starter the the Titans defense is doing the best it can do But it's it's not it kind of wears down over the course of the game. Now Dobbins. Man, this line, DK's rushing line, 64 and a half. He's averaging 19 opportunities a game.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah, I like him in this game because of the fact that I think they'll be out and ahead for the majority of the game. Were you surprised how high it was? Yeah, 64, I mean, he's, that's basically like a 50-50 shot of his box scores. And they're a pretty good defense. The Titans have played good defense most of the year.
Starting point is 00:32:57 It really comes down in part to their opponents. When they played Buffalo and Detroit the last two of the last three weeks, they gave up 34 and 52 points. They break down eventually against these great defenses. If it's not a great offense. It reminds me of the Giants defense. We all recognize the Giants defense has a lot of talent, but you just can't hold up. So the question is, because they held up just fine against New England last week. They only gave't hold up. So the question is, because they can hold up, you know, they held up just fine against New England last week.
Starting point is 00:33:26 They only gave up 17 points. They've held people to 20 or fewer points plenty of times when it's an average to below average offense. The question to me in this matchup is, are the Los Angeles Chargers an above average offense or not? They've got Justin Herbert, they're letting him throw the ball more. Quinton Johnson has gotten involved. Lad McConkie has been a great rookie wide receiver. But are they really a good offense or just average?
Starting point is 00:33:54 They're weird. I think they're all right, man. 23 or more points in three of the previous four games. They are currently 24th in the NFL in points per game. That's not good. Well, I mean, they had, like, when they have a stinker, it's a stinker. You know, 10 points against Pitt, 10 points against the Chiefs. 23 point implied point total. What do you do with the wide receiver position? Obviously, they're at home, they're favored.
Starting point is 00:34:19 We like Dobbins enough, I guess, or DK does. But, McConkie and Johnston. I think they are both playable. If I have to pick I'm still going to go with Lad McConkie. But Quinton Johnston has it. You're on the McConkie side? Yeah. I'd be on the Johnston side.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I'll take the targets here. Yeah the targets should be there for Lad. Also Ligeria Snead I would guess he's more on Quentin Johnson than in the slot on Ladd. I guess I don't know for sure his health. But assuming that he's there, that leads me more towards Ladd. But it's just a Snead missed practice on Thursday. OK.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I love when defensive great players miss. Like all the defensive players, I'm never rooting for them to play. Yeah, I might try to avoid these guys. I don't think there are voids. I mean, they're not consistent in a good matchup. And Tennessee is number one in the NFL against wide receivers in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Number one. Huh? Yeah. Number one. Where are you seeing that? On our website Mike the fantasy footballers.com Tennessee is first against fantasy wide receivers on the season and fantasy points given up. If you look at schedule adjusted their third. Okay that's where. But if you look at actual fantasy points given up statistically they are number one against wide receivers. Last six weeks has not been as good and the combination of things haven't been as good for the Titans and with the evolving Chargers offense. I think they're both playable. Okay, any other names here? Tony Pollard? will be interesting to me of he hasn't practiced,
Starting point is 00:36:05 in which this is what's been going on, he's not practicing, then he goes out there and he's awesome, but at the same time, Tajay Spears has not been available for the Tennessee Titans, and Spears was a full practice on Thursday, so I wonder if they, is it possible that they take a different approach because they have, Spears is a good player.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I mean, when your backup option is Julius Chestnut, you're like, which you just made that up, Mike. Good for Christmas time for you guys who are already in it. When that's the option, yeah, one's roasting on an open fire. Tony Pollard is out there doing work. I just, I have a little bit of concern. But it's been a disappointing year for Spears. He did have 17 opportunities
Starting point is 00:36:48 two weeks ago before the injury. And yeah, it's a fair question. But I think- With Pollard's injury and the difficult matchup, the Chargers are top five against running backs. I think that Pollard is, he's gone from someone that has been a must start to, you know, like I would rather have JK Dobbins in this same game on the other side. Oh yeah, what about Mostert? I don't think I'd go down all the way to Mostert. I would go Pollard, but Najee Harris,
Starting point is 00:37:13 Chuba Hubbard, those type of players. Ramandre? I've got them back to back in my rankings. Ramandre against Chicago. Who's it had in the rankings? Eileen Ramandre. I worry that they're gonna give Pollard a little bit more rest if Spears is back. Obviously if Spears for some reason
Starting point is 00:37:29 after practicing in full doesn't play this week then that would completely shift towards Pollard. The Philadelphia Eagles are 6 and 2. The Dallas Cowboys 3 and 5. The games in Dallas and boys listen to this one Philly mine is seven and a half on the road over unders forty three and a half that gives Dallas just 18 points at home the deck experience is over for maybe the rest of the season for a while and Mike now understands that meat is a muscle. I've heard. The last time that Dallas was a touchdown underdog at home was ironically when Cooper Rush was also a quarterback, their quarterback, and they actually won it.
Starting point is 00:38:16 So we'll see what happens. Their defense this year is so bad that it hurts. It hurts unless you're playing against it for fantasy. Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goddard. I think Micah is back. Oh that's a big deal. So look that up for sure because you know the last time when you talk about Cooper Rush won the game, they won the game but they only gave up 17 points and this defense against the Eagles, you don't expect that. I mean, right now, the Eagles are
Starting point is 00:38:47 implied for 25 and 1 half points. So Micah Parsons would make a big deal. He is planning on being back. I think they're expecting him back. So what are your new expectations for CD Lamb with the Cooper Rush offense, for Rico Dowdell? Those are the only two players. I mean, Jake Ferguson, who's been disappointing.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Ferguson has been disappointing on the season. It's tough to look back at the numbers, because Cooper Rush, when he had his run, four and one as a starter for the Cowboys, that was two years ago, and it's like at that time, CD Lamb was- Was that the Schultz year? It was, but-
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah, Dalton Schultz. But it was like, I think Schultz must have been injured because one of the games, Jake Ferguson actually did have a good game, but there was, like it was a combination of him and Peyton Hendershot. Like Ferguson wasn't the guy yet, so I don't know if we have strong evidence of what Cooper Rush will do. CD Lamb, meanwhile, was getting a very strong target share and he was not, he was, he was great CD Lamb at that time. He wasn't looked at as elite, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:52 one of the top four, top three wide receivers in the league. So the injury to CD Lamb's shoulder is a big-time bummer, but if he's out there, I feel confident enough that Cooper Rush will hyper-target him. Yeah, he will get enough targets. I think he'll get enough yards as well. I would be skeptical of him entering the end zone often while he's got Cooper Rush over the next month, but I'm still, I don't believe that this is going to be a fall from grace like we saw with Tyree Kill,
Starting point is 00:40:20 where he went from very, very relevant to completely on, you know, just not helping you and actively hurting you on fantasy matchups. I don't think you're getting that from CD Lam unless CD Lam's injury knocks him out of the game. What about Rico? His DKA rushing lands at 42 and a half. We know that the rushing is not where, or is not everything for Rico Dotto. He's been getting tons of targets.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So it's hard for me to say, but I like Rico Dowdell's opportunity. I like what we're seeing in Rico Dowdell. I think I'm going to recommend starting Rico Dowdell often over the rest of the season. This isn't gonna be one of those weeks. The Philadelphia Eagles defense has really stepped it up. I mean, when you adjust for schedule over the course of the season,
Starting point is 00:41:07 they're number three against running backs, they're top 10 against quarterbacks, they're number one against tight ends. I mean, they're actually, they started slow and they kind of sucked last year and I think we need to quickly get on board with how good the Eagles defense has been. The encouraging part would be the six targets the last two weeks, but you can't, Quickly get on board with how good the the Eagles defense has been the
Starting point is 00:41:26 Encouraging part would be the six targets the last two weeks But you can't you got to reset that with Cooper rush and yeah, we don't know what it'll be. It feels a little scary for sure Monitor the Devante Smith hamstring news. We will keep an eye on it We have an injury blitz podcast as part of the feature set at join the foot comm it comes from Matthew Betts Who is a licensed physical therapist and our injury expert. And he will commentate or he'll share his analysis of all the injuries heading into the week and later this afternoon at jointhefoot.com.
Starting point is 00:41:56 The Jets at three and six traveled Arizona to take on the Cardinals who have won three straight games. Cardinals are five and four. What? And the DKA Sportsbook line here now, it is moved. It's the Jets minus two. How dare you? It did open at Arizona minus one.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Wow. Yeah, even worse. There's a lot of Jets. How dare you, America? A lot of Jets betting going on. The R-Runders 46 and a half. You know, the more relevant lines for how, well, I guess that's not always true,
Starting point is 00:42:28 but oftentimes the line that comes out when the week opens is more indicative of how Vegas sees the game, as opposed to where it ends up sometimes, because obviously the money's on the Jets in this one. One win for the New York Jets and everyone goes crazy. Yeah they lost to New England the week before. Also they have a very good chance to win this game. They do.
Starting point is 00:42:53 You know it's not going to be easy for the Cardinals secondary in defense to stop the Garrett Wilson Devante Adams combination. They are a schizophrenic defense. At times they look incredible. They, you know, were able to go into Miami and slow down that offense. They were really good against Los Angeles, the Chargers, sacking Justin Herbert. They added Baron Browning. You know, this should be, I think, a close game. You know, to have the line flip between teams.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Jason, you brought up James Connors, your start of the week. He still leads the NFL in forced miss tackles and was amazing last week. Brice Hall, you're going to start. Garrett Wilson, Devontae Adams, you're going to start. I think the real question marks in this game revolve around both Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison, Jr. That them independently for fantasy the confidence level you have with Kyler who you know last five games three games inside the top ten two games where he was abysmal
Starting point is 00:43:56 yeah it's it's brutal here for Kyler because it's the the highs are fantastic the highs are fantastic. Kyler Murray really was a part of me winning this week, but then when it's low, it's not just, oh, I didn't get a game from Kyler. I lost actively because of Kyler. That puts you in a really bad spot here. Combine that with Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean, he's hot and cold just like Kyler Murray,
Starting point is 00:44:24 but the DK reception line for him is at three and a half. Like that is. Holy moly, for a wide receiver one. Yeah. I mean, that's what Jonathan Taylor has this week. Right. Jonathan Taylor is at three and a half receptions.
Starting point is 00:44:37 He's a running back. That is. So it's a really tough decision here. I think it is indicative of what you'll see as well. You've got Sauce Gardner, and the Jets have a great pass defense. This is going to be tough sledding for Marvin Harrison. This is not a must-bench situation,
Starting point is 00:44:55 because the highs are very high not just for Kyler, but also for Marvin Harrison this season. However, I think there are plenty of other options out there that you might be looking at, you might have on your roster where you need to take an honest look and see if you're willing to start Marvin over them. Marvin is not an auto start.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Marvin or Calvin Ridley? I would go Ridley. Marvin or? That feels so bad. It does. Marvin or Hopkins against Denver? Hopkins, easily. I'll give you one that I think sounds really gross,
Starting point is 00:45:33 but if I had them, if I had both these rookies, I would play Brian Thomas Jr. against Minnesota over Marvin in this. And that's not saying, like, I would play Marvin Harrison over what we've seen from Jalen Waddell or Dunze, or you know, I'm not just being- All the Bears? Well, all the Bears, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Did we mention the reception line's just three and a half? Yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's very- Tank Del, your start of the week. Oh, Tank Del. I'd go Tank Del. I would go Del.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Especially with no Niko, of course. Khalil Shakir, the PPR machine. Shakira Shakira. I think I go Shakira. I think that one might be a match up dependent. You know what I mean? Shakira Shakira feels like he has a higher floor, but he doesn't have the ceiling because you could still have you could still Shakira Shakira.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I love it. I thought you were making like you were embarrassed that I didira. I love it. I thought you were making, like you were embarrassed that I did that. Oh no, it's good stuff. And instead you just, then you go right into it yourself. Like it's nice. It's fun to do the Shakira voice. I don't know why I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Talk like that. Going back to... Shakira. Shakira, yeah. No, I think we've exhausted Marvin Harrison. I expect a bounce back game from Breece Hall Deandre Swift had a good game Devon H And had a good game more importantly both of those players The those are the last two opponents for the Arizona Cardinals while the Cardinals won both of those players had six
Starting point is 00:46:58 Receptions each and that is kind of a calling card for Breeze Hall The the the open field tackle rate for the Cardinals are not good. They're swarming right now, they're getting after it, but if you're just talking about one-on-one tackles against Bryce Hall, this is a matchup where you could see a really big performance and his DK receiving and rushing line is over 100 yards. I got there.
Starting point is 00:47:22 You were fighting that, you knew what you wanted to say. Yeah. And it's a good point. So we got Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football. We'll talk about it momentarily. We'll take a quick break. This episode is brought to you by RBC Student Banking. Here is an RBC student offer that turns a feel good moment
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Starting point is 00:48:11 Yeah, if I work in this too. No, we're turning it into a good hour. We just gotta give better analysis. Let's go back and talk about, because I don't think we covered Garrett Wilson, Devonte, Adams. Let's talk about them for 15 minutes. We didn't mention that Gary
Starting point is 00:48:25 Wilson since week five is the wide receiver one I mean that's dude I need to eat a little bit of crow on Garrett yeah yeah I need to I need to like I came out and I was pretty vehement about the fact that there's no way that Devante Adams doesn't hurt Garrett Wilson I he but he did not hurt. Well, that's just not been he helped. That's not been true. Yeah Yeah, both both of us were saying that it definitely seemed like uh, Garrett Wilson would be the number two in targets when you look at expected fantasy points not just what happened and what the result was but based on targets locations on the field what the expected fantasy points would be Based on targets locations on the field what the expected fantasy points would be
Starting point is 00:49:09 Right now Garrett Wilson is ahead of the Vonte Adams in that number. That's the most surprising I think revelation it does that stay Yeah, I don't know what what him getting integrated into that offense looks like change the head coach change of lots offensive coordinator But because you saw Adams finally have a good week last week Which you would expect them to get better and better as they integrate into the offense. I mean, he had a good week while Garrett Wilson's putting up one of the best catches of the season. Yeah, that was awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:33 The Michael Jordan catch? That's all the time we have today. See you later, everybody. No, we have Sunday Night Football. We got the 701 Lions against the 6 and 3 Texans. The Draft King Sportsbook line, Detroit minus three and a half. The over-under is 48 and a half. On the surface, seems like it might be pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:49:52 We have Detroit, really, the cream of the crop of the NFL, I think right now. It's weird because I know that the Chiefs have a better record, but they haven't looked the way that the Lions have looked. The Chiefs remind me a lot of the Philadelphia Eagles last year. The Eagles, I believe, were undefeated at seven and oh,
Starting point is 00:50:13 were beating everyone, but you're watching these games, you're like, they don't look great. They are winning and they're not a bad team, but they don't look great. Now, the Chiefs could get it together now that they've got Hopkins, and maybe they'll get some of their injured players back, you know, Pacheco and even Hollywood for the playoffs. But I agree with you. Detroit looks like the best overall team in the NFL. If the Ravens defense was better, they could contend.
Starting point is 00:50:39 But the Lions are right now. They feel just unstoppable. They also added a pass rusher. So Darrius Smith coming over in the trade deadline. You know, the interesting thing about them is while one of the best offenses in football on a regular basis, they've won six straight games. Jared Goff is playing good football. Gibbs, Montgomery, Amon Ra, always good starts.
Starting point is 00:51:00 They do have players that are like, you know, Laporta and Goff,, golf middle of the pack, Jameson Williams, kind of hot and cold. Like, it's not a full every week start for those three players. No, no it's not. I mean, Laporta is one of those guys that you could really, really, really look and say,
Starting point is 00:51:18 do I wanna start him or a Hunter Henry type of player? I think it's fair. I mean, if you aren't questioning the, should I just auto start Laporta, you're making a mistake more often than you're not. Right now, he's the tight end 15. And for reference, if you're the tight end nine, you suck. So, I mean, he's been really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Not super involved. If you look at his, the bye week and some of these games were missing, Jameson Williams, one target, two targets, six, okay, three targets. Those just aren't reliable numbers. He's a talented player but doesn't have the volume. I hope you're not playing Sam Laporta this week and that you have a better option to pivot to. Or a better Otten. Oh, Otten is an easy in over La Porta.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I've got guys like my start of the week, Hawkinson, where I feel like I would rather play Hawkinson than La Porta. This is also not an easy matchup. Texans are number two against tight ends on the course of the season. If you adjust for schedule, they're still top five. Would you go La Porta or Jake Ferguson?
Starting point is 00:52:24 With Cooper Rush, I think I'm gonna stick with the Stick with Laporta. The team implied total. The thing with Laporta is one big play can make your day. That's the hope, but it's a good point. It's also, I don't have Nico Collins anywhere, so I don't care if he plays or not. But I sure care about whether this is a great Sunday night football game and him being in
Starting point is 00:52:46 the game would make a big difference. I'm not sure it really hurts Tank Dell in your start of the week if he's in there. You need to keep up with the Lions and that's hard to do. I mean, Tank Dell's DK receiving line, that's 64 and a half. That's nice, that's not bad. Double digit fantasy points in the of the last four weeks. He, despite giving Jason Greif for the quad down, I think that Tankdale is a good play.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Jumeir Gibbs, just to share some analytics with you, number one in the NFL in average rushing speed, 13.45 miles an hour. Number one in average yards before contact. Number one in rush success rate, and number one in EPA which is estimated what points added so per carry so he has been so electric. No one who has Gibbs is disappointed by him but I I think you're you want so much more
Starting point is 00:53:37 because it's Lamar Miller man just let it be let it be what it is. The ride is wild you look at the game lock 16 18 12 11 22 1 6 18 it's beautiful. You watch the game I have Gibbs. I've got Monty. You will not see him in a first quarter sometimes. The first drive never never. The first drive belongs to my man David Montgomery. Both of his cleats came off, they'd put him out there barefoot on the first drive before putting Gibbs in. They'd burn a timeout.
Starting point is 00:54:08 They'd say, David is our first drive guy. So it is frustrating. Gibbs is charging up in that time. It works. Is that what he's doing? Oh yeah. I literally think it might be one of those things where they're thinking we want someone to go
Starting point is 00:54:20 and hit the defense. Like physically, we want to tenderize the meat. We want to tenderize the meat for Gibbs, and it's working. Not only has Gibbs been consistent, and it's frustrating because you're not getting more, but I was surprised today. I looked at, I was looking at the running back, you know, on the season, who was the best running back,
Starting point is 00:54:39 on a points per game basis. Because some guys have missed games, like Joe Mixon, some guys have had bye weeks, like Barkley, and others have played the whole season so far. The numbers get out of whack. But Jameer Gibbs right now is the number five running back. He's top five in points per game, because they've already had their bye week.
Starting point is 00:54:57 He's just been outstanding. And goodness, if David Montgomery goes down to injury, I mean, he'll be the number one back. Joe Mixon has been darn near the number one back in football. His fantasy finishes, other than the game he got banged up in, he's top 12 every week.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yeah, he's been amazing. They're so committed to giving him the ball that it feels like you can survive with the inefficient game, which he might have in this one. Yeah, I expect him to have one, but I just talked about Gibbs being number five in points per game, mixing his number three in points per game.
Starting point is 00:55:33 He's been absolutely outstanding. He's at, yards per carry is not everything, but he's at 4.8 right now, which the highest mark of his career, by far, was his sophomore year at 4.9. Everything else is like 4.1 or lower. It's like to be this far. Have you seen Jason?
Starting point is 00:55:53 He's lost like 47 pounds. Sometimes you peak the older you get. Maybe, yeah. Sometimes you peak the older you get. Just wait until mixing in his 40s. Sometimes you do, but for running backs in the NFL, this is very backwards. Jason and running backs are not a perfect comp?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Well, no. That's more of an offensive lineman. No, it's an incredible year. I understand what you're saying, but he also is a perfect fit for this offense. And this game will be fun to watch, because they're wearing those cool red jerseys. Yeah, there's not much to decide here.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I think the only questionable thing of like, do I really start or sit outside of Sam Laporta? Is it Jamison or? Are the quarterbacks. Oh, I got you, Stroud and Goff. Stroud and Goff. Nah, nah. I know, I'm kind of nah, nah on those two.
Starting point is 00:56:36 It's not a great week for a boot quarterback. Nah, nah. But I'd rather play Darnold. I'd rather play, would you rather, here's a wacky question. Would you rather play Mahomes? Yeah. Really? That one I'm not sure on. Then who, Stroud or Goff?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Either, who would you rather play those two? I'd play Mahomes over Goff. Goff freaks me out, man. Goff, they can win 52 to seven and he could throw over like 90 yards. I'd play Aaron Rodgers over both of them. I agree. Yeah that's a good point. We got a couple quarterbacks in this one to talk about. Miami 2 and 6, Los Angeles 4 and 4, the Draft King sportsbook line here. At home the Rams? Breaking news. Please be that Nico Collins
Starting point is 00:57:20 has been activated. Nico Collins has been designated for a return. Yeah, baby! Woo! I needed it! Woo! OK, CJ Stroud's back in. Well, that almost timed up with our matchup exactly. I didn't see the news, so I genuinely, Brooks, I was a fish looking at a delicious lure, and I wasn't sure if
Starting point is 00:57:48 there was a hook in there or not. But I'm going for it. I'm eating the heck out of it. Whoo, yes. He has been designated to return slash return to practice, and we have made another roster move that's from the Houston Texans. Well that's great, because you know what, for Mixon to score touchdowns, they're going to need to move beyond their own 30 yard line.
Starting point is 00:58:06 This is good for Sam Laporta. This is good for Jameson Williams. This is good for the Detroit Lions offense where it's like they're not going to just run the ball if the Texans can't score. The Texans aren't the same without Nico and it's nice to have them back. That is big-time news. Miami 2-6, Los Angeles 4 and 4, the Rams at home, one point favorites over under his 50. That's a lot of points. Very excited about what we're getting on Thursday and Monday this week. Miami and the Rams with a 50 point over under outstanding. Lots of fantasy relevant players. Puka, Cooper Cup, Kyron. You know, you said you're kind of out on Matthew Stafford. I don't know why I keep returning to him this week with a little bit of excitement.
Starting point is 00:58:50 His DK passing yards line is 260. Oh, that's really good. I just feel like maybe, you know, he's obviously been very good with these two guys on the field. You have to contrast that with the Denver or I'm sorry, the Dolphin defense being so good against quarterbacks. I just think they're onto something right now in Los Angeles and I don't know, like if this game was on the road in Miami, I would be more out, but at home, controlled environment, I'm kind of kicking against the analytics with Stafford.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I don't know how dumb that's going to look. Let's actually dive a little deeper to see because right now the Miami Dolphins are number two against quarterbacks over the course of the season. They're giving up on average negative 4.2 fantasy points against what that quarterbacks average usually is. However, you had Tua knocked out halfway through the Buffalo game.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And so then you had a four game stretch against Seattle, Tennessee, New England, and Indianapolis. And in those four games, where the offense of the Dolphins could do absolutely jack squat. And so the offense of the opposing matchups really didn't have to do anything while they lost all those games.
Starting point is 01:00:02 You had negative 5.9. I remember the Richardson game too, where he was inept. Yeah, negative games. You had negative 5.9. I remember the Richardson game too where he was inept. Yeah, negative 8.6, negative 5.9, negative 6.4. Those were in the two illest games. Two has been back for two games. Against Arizona, Kyler had a great game. He was eight points over his expectation or his average. Then you had Josh Allen last week, two and a half points over his average. He's got a good average. And he's got a good average. Then you had Josh Allen last week, two and a half points over his average.
Starting point is 01:00:26 So he's got a good average and he's got a good average. So maybe the Dolphins, when you look at them as a matchup, because this is what's been fear. This is what I've been fearful of is you can run on the Dolphins. They're more of a run funnel. You're not passing on the Dolphins well this year. And they do have some talent. They got Jalen Ramsey back there. However, I think some of those metrics are, I don't know if it would be inflated or deflated, but I think they're wrong. I think they are indicative of more of the Tua injury. So I am warming up to Matthew Stafford in this matchup. Well Vegas has a high over-under in this one. I mean, the eight-chant has been incredible. We still haven't had a big game from Tyreek Hill
Starting point is 01:01:07 since the return of Tua. It could happen here, no question. We're all waiting to see if Jaylen Waddle, who you now no longer have to play, can get it done. I think I will play him. What do you think, man? Lad McConkey or Jaylen Waddle? What do you think, man? Iconk you're jailing wattle
Starting point is 01:01:27 What do you think man? I'd be playing one of those two for sure. Yeah, I'd have to I will too Mike Yeah, we're on with wattle right now is receiving lanes 42 and a half so Jalen wattle is which is only What it's only five more than John New Smith. Did your tooth almost come flying out your mouth? I don't want to talk about it. Oh, oh that is... You might have heard it though.
Starting point is 01:01:55 So, we're in a weird place with Jalen Waddle. Look, he... When I'm looking at Waddle, I'm always looking at how is he keeping pace with with Tyree kill And it's like Tyree kills, of course Way better for fantasy and he's a better wide receiver than Jalen waddle But it's not like like Tyree kill himself is is not having these huge Electric games even with two of back the last two it's been better than Waddle, but it's,
Starting point is 01:02:26 like they're both not succeeding, so. That's interesting. As long as they're both not succeeding, I'm not gonna completely give up on Jared Waddle. John-u and H-an are affecting both of them. They are, yes. With the yards per game, like Waddle's averaging one yard more than John-u per game this year.
Starting point is 01:02:40 That is reason enough to sit Waddle down. I will, see, again, when Tua was gone, Johnu was everything. I mean, Johnu was an incredibly, he probably led the team in targets during that stretch. I don't have that in front of me, but just from memory, that's what it looked like. Johnu was still involved with Tua?
Starting point is 01:03:01 It hasn't really stopped. I mean, six targets, six targets. Yeah, and Achan has been like eight targets, eight targets, so I agree that those two guys have... 8chan. 8chan. Well that's that's a whole nother thing. That's a website you don't want to go to. Oh that's right. That's not 4chan? No, no it is. Is there an 8chan too? Yeah 8chan has got to be way worse. It's double worse, I guess. Anyways. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:03:30 I'm thinking about this game script wise, a 50 point over under, what Waddle still can do. He got a touchdown last week and had an insane play at the end that took away like 20 of his yards. If I'm looking at Lad McConkey against Tennessee or Jalen Waddle in this matchup against, you know, a, a, a really high over, under and the 26th ranked defense against wide receivers, I think I'm going to play Waddle in this matchup. And he's cackling and I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Go take a look at our league of record feed. He just put Jamar Chase on the block. And instantly stared into my sword. He looked at me immediately. You should trade for him. He's on the block. Al Borland looked at me immediately and just started shaking his head. To give a little context for why Owl is so specifically mad. Owl the day before, I believe it was the
Starting point is 01:04:26 day before, was trying to trade for Chase. He poked the current manager of Chase and said, hey, I don't know if you're looking to sell or not, but I'd love to look into Chase. And he basically said, I'm not selling, I'm in it, and Chase is untouchable. And then the next day makes a surprising offer to Andy's inbox of, would you like Jamar Chase for not that much, much less than what Jeremy would have offered. It was taking a shot on the Amari Cooper trade to Buffalo. Yeah, I mean, you got to call your shot sometimes. And oftentimes those, the same manager called his shot on Tyrone Tracy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And it felt like it was bad. And it was a brilliant move on Tyrone Tracy. And it felt like it was bad and it was a brilliant move because Tyrone Tracy looks like could be a league helpful winner down the stretch. But that's why Owl is especially upset, is because he feels like he should have Chase. But bringing it back full circle. He's available to be had now. Send me your offers.
Starting point is 01:05:24 OK, so look, the decision is on the other side outside the quarterbacks. Send me your offers. Okay, so look the decisions on the other side outside those the quarterbacks they're not hard. Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup, Pukinakua. DeMarcus is an emergency play and a high over under he could get something done. I think people are always hesitant when you're the third option wide receiver but it can happen. I mean we saw it with these guys on the field two weeks ago, two touchdowns. That's the only place he thrives, Andy. It's been the third option.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Yeah, that's fair. Some injury updates before we get into fancy face-off, apparently. Dave Canales said it's a possibility that Jonathan Brooks could play Sunday, but not a guarantee. Oh my gosh, I did see his status go from healthy to questionable, so he is, you know, they signed a contract
Starting point is 01:06:07 and now they're like, maybe we can wait. They have activated him. So he will, he will be part of the roster. He, if he is, he'll basically be a healthy scratch if he doesn't play. But he should play football this year and goodness, I hope it's this week. By the way, I want to make sure we're clear about the Nikko Collins news. The Nikko Collins news was not that he's playing on Sunday. The news was the first step of playing on Sunday, which is designated to return to practice. So now he can go be on the practice field.
Starting point is 01:06:36 That is 100% true, is not a guarantee he would play. However, it would be a shocking situation to me, because they didn't have to activate them. They have plenty of time. But you do need to activate them to know if you can practice and be okay. Right, correct. But this means that they will have to have
Starting point is 01:06:53 taken another roster player and gotten rid of that roster player to make room for Niko ahead of the game. It pushes me to the point where I'm willing to risk it now. I'll try to find my emergency backup plan, but my plan will now be Niko instead of taking a morning player and just be like, I'll miss out on Niko this week. I've got a couple trade-offers for Chase
Starting point is 01:07:16 that I'm going to have to decline. I'm sorry. I'm going to have to let them go. All right, I guess we got gotta do this. Fantasy Face Off, presented by DraftKangs. Well we have, we've got two weeks to pay out here with the Wheel of Shame. Jason lost two weeks ago, I lost last week, and Mike is the winner of both. So. I am the winner by not being the loser. Are we spinning the wheel?
Starting point is 01:07:46 It's one spin. It's one spin? Wait, I didn't hear what you were saying because I was putting Nico Collins on my roster. I won this week. Is that what you said? Yeah, you won last week. Yes, this past week.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Okay, awesome. What I was saying was that you lost two weeks ago, I lost this past week, and Mike wins because he's not spinning the wheel. Sure, I just wanted to make sure it was clear you did not win. No one cares. Oh yeah. No one cares. They're going to look at you like a winner when you're dressed up. We've got to spin the wheel, Jason, and apparently it's one spin for both of us.
Starting point is 01:08:13 One spin to rule them all. Wheel of shame. I don't like this. Papa Josh back there smirking like he thinks Well, so we got it was there something there was a pizza face mall cop Fighting Irish. Oh then oh the gnome zone. That's not the bone zone We're just like red or do you like blue? I like red. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I would start with beard, then go ears, then go hat. Wait, we have a beard? Yeah. Mike can describe what the heck's going on. So the boys are putting on their very shameful gnome outfits here. Jason's going David the gnome. Is there a beard problem? No, there's beard. Oh, your beard's coming off my beard. Oh, no
Starting point is 01:09:12 I thought it was already ruined. It was just a backwards beard. It's very uncomfortable. It's a really long beard makes No, put the ears on put the ears on do not come on get in here the gnome zone Put the ears on put the ears on do not come on get in here the gnome zone What are the ears so high up on Andy's head there? That's where they are Not up to us. It's up to the costume All right Wow, this is Andy looks like Merlin there are two idiots here This is man we look so stupid. What is the YouTube address Al?
Starting point is 01:09:48 YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. The ears look real stupid. I don't like it. At least I can breathe a little. Oh my gosh this beard though. Alright so we get a share of lineups looking like morons? Yep. This is so uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Alright, quarterback I'm going Brock Purdy 6,500. All right I am I already hate my lineup I'm going Justin Herbert against that Tennessee Titans matchup because he was only 5,200 a disrespectful price I'm hoping that it works and he gets some you got some beard in your mouth over there Proceed with your pick We're live boys because I'm going Aaron Rodgers at 5,700 against the Arizona Cardinals. OK, OK.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Come on, Andy, get it together. What's wrong over there? Easy and some beer. I'm eating so much beer. All right, we decided we weren't going to ban Alvin Kamara because that would make the worst lineup. So Alvin Kamara at 8,100, Deandre Swift at 6500, my start of the week.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Oh. I've got Alvin Kamara as well as at 8100, and Jonathan Taylor at 7500 against Buffalo at home. I had that as a lineup, but I did pivot, I remade some stuff, but Alvin Kamara of course, and then I went with Aaron Jones. Yeah, 6700. At 6700 against the Yaxville Yawgwaks.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I could not squeeze that extra 200 out to get him in there. My wide receivers, this is why I couldn't, Justin Jefferson at 8800, Jawan Jennings stacked with Purdy at 5100, and then at 4200, I am going Jalen McMillan. If he doesn't play, it's a pivot into Sterling Shepherd at the same price.illan if he doesn't play it's a pivot into Sterling Shepherd at the same price and what if what if he doesn't play then it is a pivot into somebody ugly at 4200 okay I have Joanne Jennings as well as 5100 oh
Starting point is 01:11:35 wow I did not spend up on any wide receivers which is usually a terrible idea well you got all that cash in Johnny Taylor yeah Johnny Taylor and Alvin Kamara I've got Deandre Hopkins at 50 300 seems like a missed priced player and I'm stacking Justin Herbert with Quentin Johnson So the Jerry's look out take your time Watch out. I got a huge back What was your third player? Hopkins Jennings and Quentin Johnston. Okay, I like that for me. All right, go ahead, Mike. Jennings is wiped because I have him as well.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Or Dustin Hopkins. Dustin Hoffman? Deandre Hopkins, 5,300. I agree. Oh, you have him too. I hate the matchup against Denver, but the price was too nice. I feel like the price is indicative of, we're still not sure.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Like we could have a week where he disappears. Well, they were Monday Night Football, right? Yeah. Yeah, so Monday Night Football, the prices are out. Monday Night Football players, a little cheat code for future playing. Monday Night Football players don't get their price adjusted based on performance.
Starting point is 01:12:39 But I got Roger, so of course, I have the number one fantasy wide receiver since week five, Garrett Wilson at 7,200. I almost had Adams in my lap, I pivoted off of him. My tight end Hunter Henry at 3,900. My defense, the Patriots at 2,500 against Chicago. I feel like they are priced really cheaply and yet can do some stuff. And then I am double stacking.
Starting point is 01:13:03 I took the affordable Ricky Pierce Hall at 4,400. Oh okay. I'm going to Joann Jennings. I'm very San Francisco oriented this week. I paid down for Joann Johnson at tight end 3,300 and I paid up a little bit on my defense for the Bears on the other side of your New England Patriots but most of my money went to the fact that not only do I have Alan Kamara and Jonathan Taylor, but I've also got Breece Hall at 7600. Ooh, look at this guy. So Breece Hall gets rushing touchdowns, Mike, because you've got the Aaron Rodgers-Garrett Wilson stack.
Starting point is 01:13:35 That's going to be a big me versus you. I have the Patriots as well, and then I'm running out 12 personnel, boys. I thought about it this week, man. At the tight end position. 55! Mr. Cade Otten at 5,500 and then Hunter Henry is just. Oh, okay. Hunter Henry's like the cheapest player
Starting point is 01:13:56 who I think actually will get production. 3,900. So that's my lineup. What's your defense? The Patriots. Okay, yeah, they were affordable. Yeah, I wish I could get the Bears but why don't you take over segment out not not because I'm choking on gnome hair you guys look fabulous
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