Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 10 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, NFL Trade Reactions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/5

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Nov 5, 2025. Get prepped for Week 10! Start/sit advice and NFL Trade Deadline reactions on today’s show! Plus, fantasy football trade questions, rest of season outlooks, and a preview of Thursday Night Football between the Broncos and Raiders. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(09:10) Backup Options(18:48) NFL News & Trades(28:34) Thursday Night Breakdown: Raiders at Broncos(34:00) Mailbag(35:06) Kenneth Walker Droppable?(38:14) JT or Bijan ROS(41:39) Alvin Kamara or Tyrone Tracy(42:58) Justin Jefferson Trade(43:51) Marv or Quge?(44:57) Jaylen Waddle or Nico Collins?(46:15) Breece Hall Outlook(49:19) Shaheed or Jamo ROS(50:45) Fantasy Trade RepliesConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in one and all. After that trade deadline? And he's boring. I can't breathe. I can't get enough rest of my lungs. Welcome in, everybody. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast.

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, everybody. It's the hands that gets me on that video. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the podcast. Wednesday, November 5th. Thank you for joining us. Yeah, the voice is a little beat up, but I'm here and we're going to talk about a lot of stuff today.

We had the unfortunate, I guess, privilege of, like, recording a show right before a million unexpected trades went through and the trade deadline for the NFL is not normally this active and then we got the Jacoby Myers trade on the show. So, I mean, it wasn't too much, but the nice thing is we're every day, you know? Yeah, we're right back here. If news breaks today, you'll hear about it in the morning. Yep. So we will talk through the implications of a couple of these trades and the trades that didn't happen, right?

I mean, we, oh, there's, there's a few. There's one upsetting. That's the one, Breece Hall. And that came down to like, I mean, this is just put it on the same framework of a fantasy football trade. It's like, we'll give you a four. We want a three. Yeah, that was the chiefs. We want a three.

It was reported that the chiefs offered a four and the Jets held firm for a three. and nobody, yeah, nobody blinked. And then there was the very fortunate for Michael Wright, all the rumors of the Patriots Oh yes, yes. Bringing in a running

back. Yeah. And it did not happen. Yeah, oh, that's weird. Not Tony Pollard, not Breece Hall, nobody. You nerds. Not when you got Trell Jennings. Yeah. No, I mean I posted a video with all of the all the touches for Trayvion Henderson yesterday. Yeah. You know,

when you watch the video and you watch the game, we just need to remove the emotion of the beginning of the year, the draft season, the hype, all of the baggage. Expectations. Expectations. And look at the film and recognize this. If he scores in that game, you got everything you wanted from Trayvion Henderson that you could have asked for,

and he just didn't score. I mean, that's literally what... And I thought he looked good. I thought he looked good on the game. video. You don't count. Okay. You're biased. You could watch him run backwards, five yards, get tackled and fumble. You'd be like, but it wasn't his fault. I call that the Ken Walker. I have complaints. But I will say as a more unbiased third party watcher of the film, um, I thought it was really good. The only that my, my complaint is they're using him like a

230 pound back. Like get him out in space. Let him, you know, let him do some zone runs. I feel like there was like maybe two or three outside runs and there like one was a pitch he read the he had he had hit a hesitation it's hard to say hisy hisy and and read the blocks perfectly got a nice chunk gain and and then the my complaint about the the the targets of like everything's just like that check down to the outside it's like the uh i don't know the name of the route we we always we call them a texas where it's you angle out but then you angle right back into the middle of the field it's like Hendo would eat on that route. Well, look, you can't,

like there's two sides to the Henderson discussion. If we don't want them to use them like a regular running back, that is a humongous problem for training in Henderson. You've got to run him inside. If you want them to be a three-down back, you have to function in the offense that you need a three-down back in. So you've got to, like Devon A-chan does this all the time. You have to run him inside because if you want him to become what we want him to become,

you need to execute that. I think it's more we want also, want opportunities like A chance is the perfect example because he runs inside all the time but then they get him out on the edge you know they they pass the ball to him a ton those type of things like try to get that type of a playmaker

in space but it's the film was not bad he didn't get the touchdown and we have one single opportunity inside the five so we don't know if that is like the role that went to Jennings or if it's like oh that just happened to be who was in the field on the field and he got the touchdown the cop I would give you is what Chicago has done with DeAndre Swift.

The first four weeks, he was not being utilized properly. He was running at 3.3 yards per carry. And that's because he had one decent game. Like he had week one is 3.1 yards per carry. Then he had week three against Dallas, 2.5, 2.7 against Las Vegas. They go in the buy week. And they're like, hey, maybe we get the fast guy on the outside as well.

And then things have really turned around. So, look, I'm not a professional offensive coordinator, but as the nerd in my mom's basement, watching that, I thought the film looked good. It just, there could have been some better utilization choices added in. No, I think it's, that's fair. And as we get into everything on today's show, which will include backup options, all the trade news to talk through Thursday night preview, some mailbag. We also want to do what we do every Wednesday, which has announced the current Megalibole leader, Smokey the Bear 97 That's a change right

It is although I think Smokey the Bear was around the top Preventing force fires and Dominating since 97 Pook Nookam still in second Yeah so congrats to those teams still fighting at the tippy top of the Megalobole Signed James Cook Jersey giveaway Still going on at footclan giveaway.com And I am trying to decide whether I say something right now

Oh once you say that Just so you know for future reference When you say that part out loud The decision has been made for you Oh I know you're gonna yeah So do you think It's something I should say Yes

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daniel jones and then you're you're reminding me i'm not italian and i was like i really miscalculated the level that I shade. The trade analyzer in its beta form should go live sometime today. That's what I'm going to say. Awesome. Okay. So we know that trade deadlines

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we'll hit the app at some point as well, but it'll be on web first. And so we want you to go ahead and take advantage of that. We'll certainly get it out on social media when it's officially live. But we're very excited. This is something you guys have asked for for literally 10 years. So it is still, you know, you guys are going to use it and test it. I'm sure we'll have some feedback on it. But it includes the ability to, you know, you're bringing in your league and your opponent's rosters.

you'll be able to do trade analysis. There's an in-depth trade mode. There's the ability to add draft picks to the equation to be factored in. And so... Works on redraft and dynasty. Yeah. So it's supposed to be a tool. Our goal is start sit tool.

Our goal with rankings. Our goal with the trade analyzer is not to make all your decisions for you. Our goal is to give you all the best, most relevant data and information, contextualize it in a way that's easy to consume. and let you make a decision based on how we weigh those things because every league is different, right? You can go in and we ask it on the show all the time, oh, in a vacuum, would you do this? Well, you don't live in a vacuum in your league. You have 11 other managers or nine other managers.

So I'm very excited to get that out to you. I know you've been waiting for it. So join thefoot.com for that. And let's jump into backup options. backup options presented by progressive insurance well well well the waivers going through today a lot of players getting dropped Isaiah Davis being one of them a lot of people holding on diet Isaiah Davis thinking he'd be the number one running back in New York it didn't happen jaden Daniels one of the most frequently dropped Kyler murray who I think I think

Kyler Murray will hit. We got more. We did just get a tweet here from Adam Schaefter. This was oh no this was yesterday but it was Kylea Murray and the Cardinals have consulted multiple doctors on the foot injury. They've been told

timetables for recovery have been anywhere from four to eight weeks with an increased chance of setback until it's properly hit. Yeah, the increased chance of setback is Jacoby Percette. This is you know, Jonathan Gannon went on the Burns and Gambo show yesterday, a local network here, talked about the fact

he would have made Jacoby the starter regardless of whether Kyler was hurt. He said that on the show. So the injury is convenient. It's a nice cover for Kyler being able to get put on IR, which is going to happen. I'm telling you. He's going to get put on IR because it's the cleanest path to a new future for Arizona. You know, people have really gotten upset. with me about saying Kyler's the better quarterback. He hasn't been the better quarterback recently. Historically, Kyler was an MVP candidate a handful of years back when the Cardinals went 7 and 0

and they were a competitive team. What he, his ceiling with his legs combined with him as a passer, that is a really high ceiling historically. Ever since the injury, he's been very passive, bad in the pocket, unable to complete downfield throws, unable to stand in there and take a hit. He has changed as a quarterback, and he's not a better quarterback today. There are two versions of Sam Darnold. There is the fearful, young Sam Darnold, and the fearless stand in the pocket,

Sam Darnold that we've seen over the last couple of years, and it makes all the difference. And it's gone in reverse for Kyler. Kyler used to stay in the pocket a little bit more, scramble, keep his head up, his eyes up. Downfield. Yeah, exactly. and make plays. Now it's like the Unseeing Ghosts version of Sam Donald with Kyler, where it's like as soon as there's pressure near him,

he's so fearful and timid. And the play's done at that point. Just put some pressure on it. Yeah, or he'll just run for three yards to get the play over with. It's, Jacobi is much better for this offense. We've seen it for three consecutive weeks. He's actually in streaming conversations as a fantasy quarterback.

He's on several of my waiver lists today. I have DAC in a lot of leaves. If you got Marv or McBride, it's great. This is good news for your fantasy team. Yes. So Kyler dropped a lot. Jaden Daniels dropped with the, you know, Jaden could come back, but probably not to the point where you're like excited to play him going into your playoffs

if he happened to come back and we don't think you probably will. Jacori Kroski Merritt, another big name getting dropped a lot. Makes sense. Bam Knight as well after the down week. Darnal Mooney hasn't done anything. Matthew Golden, who will talk about. Keon Coleman, some other names getting dropped. If you didn't get

who you wanted, I do have some other names to bring up. We each got a name for you. I'm going to bring up Chris Rodriguez, Jr. for the Washington commanders. For a couple of reasons. One, he was the team leader in rushing, and he ran much better than JCM this past week. The way JCM is

running right now, it seems inevitable to me that they need to try different things. The offense will not be as good with Marioita anyways. So the odds of JCM having success, staying in that role. To me, I think the team could turn it over to Chris Rodriguez. But what if I did this, though?

Only one person shoulders. Does that convince you? We're almost to the amount of bills in that little drop as bad games that he's had in a row. So yeah, Chris Rodriguez was 12 for 65 and 1 on the ground. To me, if you need a spot start, if you're deciding between Nick Chubb and Chris Rodriguez,

you can take a swing at them. Chris Rodriguez is Darius. Clayton. Chris Rodriguez is a guy who's like, he's always been fine whenever he's been given an opportunity. And they just do not want to give him opportunity. They hate that dude. It's like Dearness Johnson. Yeah, I don't know if he's like just pooping on the ground in the locker room or something. They just, something behind the scenes seems like no matter what he does, he can't get on the field. That dude never flushes. He's running, he's running 4.7 a carry. No, they need to give him a shot. Yeah, I would love to see him take over and, um, and just get an

opportunity to be the guy, I don't think it's going to happen, but I like this as a pickup. Chris Rodriguez is out there on a lot of waivers. 12 carries is a lot of carries. Yeah. A lot of opportunities. You know, in our main league of record, there's no, there's never anyone out there. And Chris Rodriguez is like available. He is, he is someone that should be rostered for sure.

Now, you have an interesting. Now, I'm curious, though. Who would you prefer, if you have JCM, would you roster, would you cut? Bill for Chris Rodriguez because he's running better and might have the opportunity or the rookie who they want to have success with who's getting the kind of starts, would you keep Bill? Well, let me answer it this way and it might be cheating. I would start Chris Rodriguez over JCM this week. Okay, that's fine. I will accept that. All right. Cheaters answer. So I've got two names here. The first one pains me. It's disgusting. It is disgusting. Yesterday, Mike, you said that you

would cut him and that's fine a lot of people are cutting him he is on the most cut list right now it's rookie wide receiver matthew golden what yeah um here's the thing we we talked about luke musgrave who i don't think is going to inherit tucker craft's role he doesn't have the yards after catch he'll do his best he'll do his darndest um but matthew golden is still a first round rookie wide receiver on a team that needs someone to step up on a team that just lost their, basically their leading receiver in Tucker Kraft. It's a long season. Rookies get better as time goes on. And, you know, I think it's a mistake to drop Matthew Golden. If he was out there, you know, I've got a roster where I'm, I held on to him. And I'm sure when waivers run

here for us in an hour, we're going to see Matthew Golden hit a lot of waivers. I would be fine if you've got room to pick him up and still hope. We've seen a few plays that, you know, could have changed how we view him right now, and the season is long. He's sucked so far, and I want to throw out another name. This isn't to pick up right now. This is really probably to pick up next week, but just keep on the radar. It's Phil Moffa, honorable mention, seventh round rookie pick for the Dallas Cowboys out of Clemson. He's a beef boy. He's a 235 pound body. Yeah, sure. He was back to practice. He was seen back at practice. He was seen back at practice. He He's been on IR the whole season.

He did not have his helmet on, but they're on a bye week right now. I think that when they come out of the buy, that they will activate Phil Mafa. They cut Malik Davis as well. The Cowboys did. So as the backup, I don't think Blue is it. Blue's had the opportunity. He was a healthy scratch. Yeah, he was inactive.

Exactly. So just keep it on the radar, deeper leagues, dynasty leagues. That's all I'm saying. Mike, you've got a defense. I do. Sometimes you want to get ahead of things, even though I think that this, that the Ravens DST, they're in play. this week. I like J.J. McCarthy. Last week was much better. But just because it was better for McCarthy doesn't mean it was great. And the Ravens defense over the last month, they've allowed just

13 points per game, second fewest in the NFL. They went from who we are targeting to, I think they're figuring it out. And if you're looking at, you know, like the Ravens DST as a whole against positions, you're doing it wrong. You need to be filtering by the last month and seeing how teams are trending and the Ravens defense is getting it going. Like I said, I think they're in play against Minnesota, but this is more of get ahead of it. Do you remember the season in which Denver's defense gave up, what was it, 73 points? Yes, to the Dolphins. And what happened over the second half of that season with that defense? I mean, there are, when you have major health problems like the Ravens have had, you have an offense that didn't have Lamar Jackson,

they puts you in short fields. Yeah. And the game script changes completely. The fact that they have the third easiest rest of season schedule is something to put on your radar for sure. And you need to just, you need to be doing this every week. If you don't have a backup option, you need to add, you don't have a bunch of injuries. You got a spot on your bench. Throw a second defense on there. Because next week is Cleveland, and then the week after that is the Jets. Yeah, I mean, it makes so much sense. I mean, Isaiah Davis is now the Jets' third best player on both sides of the ball. On both sides of the ball. I mean, They got, they sold.

A three-week run here for a DST in a row is you should not ignore it. They sold and they should have. And I think they did a great job with it and we'll talk about it in just a second. That was backup option sponsored by Progressive Insurance Court today at progressive. We'll take a break. We'll hit the news. News and notes from Around the League. by progressive insurance.

Well, well, well, the trade deadline, it came and went. Your Fantasy League trade deadlines are coming soon. And the trade that got broke on the news or on the show yesterday, Jacoby Myers, traded to Jacksonville. The final terms of that deal, Jacoby, for a four and a six. I've seen discussion about them potentially retaining Jacobi Myers after the season with a new contract. Seems like you'd want to try. You could also see, you know, depending on Travis Hunter's progression,

they may still want to move on from Brian Thomas after the season. It's possible. It's been as disappointing a year as you can imagine for what Brian Thomas was last year to this year. Now he's heard again. Jacoby Myers, they did say that the slot roll was going to stay with Parker Washington. Makes sense. And so I think Parker Washington is still a great pickup and a great play. Myers, short week, figuring out an offense. I don't know how relevant you guys view him for fantasy,

but I don't think immediate. Some hope. Yeah, I do think he'll have relevance this year, but this week they're going to the Houston Texans who have not given up a lot of points. Great defense. They're number five against wide receivers. They're number five against wide receivers. I don't know about schedule adjusted or not, but just in general, they've given up the fifth fewest. So Jacobi, first weekend, against a tough defense. I'm not playing him. Rashid Shahid was traded by the New Orleans Saints to the Seattle Seahawks

Alaka a lot Yeah do you do you do I really like this I like this for both parties You know I'm I'm Are you one of the parties because of Olave? Yes I've got it's not the two teams Those are the two parties

The Seahawks and Jason No no it's Jason and Chris Olave I like it for both of us Okay okay So I went for the dynasty show that that came out today I went and re-watched all the Tyler Shuck film. Did you bring a anti-nazia medication? That was my expectation.

He was not that bad. He really, really was not that bad. They barely touched the ball. The Rams just dominated. But on a per play basis, the film, look. They're not very good. Well, no, I mean, that was the Rams just controlling the clock. Time of possession was one of the fewest amount of minutes.

I don't have the stat in front of me right now. Oh, it was an all-timer. Yeah, it was an all-timer. So that's why he only threw the ball 24 times. And he wasn't that bad. His pick at the end of the game was like, the game is running out. You've got to launch this ball. It was terrible.

But he was okay. And he was okay with Rashid, with Rashid Shahid. But to take the jokes aside, the landing spot for Shaheed, this sucks for Tori Horton. But Shaheed is such a good downfield threat. And Sam Darnold, his downfield ball this year, he is, his catchable percentage of deep passes is 81 and a half percent, which is outrageously high. Like if he finished the season there, it would be an all-timer. So I think it's good for Darnold.

This is amazing for Seattle. It's amazing. I mean, they don't, Cooper Cup is a part of the offense. Tori Horton's a part of the offense. O'Royal's a part of the offense. Now Shihed, who takes the top of every defense. He's 27 years old. And then JSN, I mean, I saw the Seahawks at number two on a power rankings today.

And I'm not sure that I, well, I don't agree with that. But I think it's, but you think it's okay for an argument. I think it's okay for an argument. I think that they're playing that well and their defense is that good. And it's just a shame for them they have to go up against the buzz saw that is Jacoby Bressat this week because it's really going to slow their momentum down when Jacoby goes in there. There's no way. There's no world where the rug gets pulled out from Jacobi Meyer.

Just impossible. I'd say Jacoby Myers every time I bring up. It's a reunion with Shahid for Coops. If you remember the beginning of last year when you're like, wait, are the Northern States going to actually be good and you're like no no they're not no it turned out they were not however i mean the this i think it there will be a couple games where jsn doesn't get the big play because she heed this is not me moving jason down my rankings at all but the fact that you have she heat who's so good down the field and will end he'll end a few drives throughout the

season where you're like oh there's a 40-yard touchdown to she he's So I think this is great news for Darnold. He's kind of been living in this fringe streamer. Maybe he's an every week start. I think this could push him into being a, just put him in the lineup, no matter against who he's playing. I'm pretty excited. Yeah, you were definitely the most excited of the group

in terms of just what this means for the Seahawks. Sauce Gardner traded to the Colts for two firsts and 80 Mitchell. Oh, man. The 80 Mitchell part is, I think, smart but hysterical. Do you guys remember? Have you seen the video from the draft where 80 Mitchell was taken by the Colts one pick ahead? And the Jets just celebrated because they didn't draft Malachi Corley. So then they trade it up.

It wasn't one pick ahead, but then they traded up to get Malachi Corley's. And now a couple years later, it's like, hey, we'll take that guy that we. It's huge for the Colts, man. It's a lot to give up. I think it's a good trade for both teams. I mean, the Jets, they get rid of a contract. They get multiple first round picks. They were going nowhere fast.

What was the tweet? You know, I was, if you weren't here for the rebuild, you don't deserve me at the rebuild? Yeah, I mean, it's nonstop for the Jets. Do we feel bad for, like, the college star quarterbacks right now? because it looks like with this draft one of them's going to the Jets

yeah well not according to them necessarily I mean the comments comments out of the Jets were that these these picks could get used for a yeah

for another veteran quarterback Kyler Murray hopefully Quinn Oh no whoa whoa whoa Jets whatever you do don't fix your problems don't steal Kyler from us

we will be devastated it. Oh, no. Don't do that. Please don't. Quinn and Williams. Cowboys traded for Quinn and Williams. They are. It's so hilarious. They're drunk. Jerry Jones running things is. Jerry Jones is literally going seen out in front of our eyes. It is. It's very funny.

But the, to me it was like, hey, fantasy football, you're telling me the Jets just lost Soss Gardner and Quinn and Williams? This is fantastic. This is. This is, from a team that the Jets defense could show up every once and a while. The issue is... No, their offense can't get first downs, man. Exactly. The issue is... No, no, I'm talking about my teams against the Jets. I know, but even still, like, if you

running backs, great. Awesome. Without Quinn and Williams and with a giant lead, you're going to be running. But it's one of those things where it's like, like when the Bengals have a bad defense or the Cowboys have a bad defense, it's wonderful for fantasy. For both teams in that game, this one isn't quite as exciting because the

offense for the Jets, I don't think, going to be able to keep up with how bad their defense is. And unfortunately, you know, yesterday I really enjoyed mocking the trade of going and getting a bangled defender to improve your Cowboys team. But this is a legitimate upgrade. The Jeff's already given up the fourth most points in the league already. Yeah, but it's even better now. The Quinn and Williams to the Cowboys, that's going to make an impact. I mean, Andy, you shared a video today of one of their defenders on the Jacoby Brissette quarterback sneak. Oh, it's just unbelievable.

It's unbelievable what happened. The Cardinals were sneaking the ball at the one-yard line, and the two defensive tackles just went to block outside players. It was just comical. But, yeah, Quentin is a good run stopper. He has not pressured the quarterback well this year. I think he has a sack on the entire year. Their commitment to DTs and not Michael Parsons is strange to me,

and it's not going to fix Dallas's defense. there you go two big defensive trades cardinals named jacobi brisette the quarterback we talked all about that already there you go uh Aaron Wilson said uh the expectation is Stroud is not going to play this week Davis Mills should start for Houston that sucks for uh Nico Collins I think he'll be okay Brian Thomas Jr dealing with a low grade high ankle spring would you rather have a low grade high angles brain or a high grade low ankle spring I think you'd rather have a high grade low ankle spring. I want to invent something that stops the old ankle sprains.

I'm not sure how to do that. Ricky Pearsall evaluated this week to see if he can return to practice called the timeline fuzzy. I bet he doesn't. Yeah. I mean, him and Purdy. Like the Ricky Pearsall story now is it sucks. Yeah.

I mean, he basically played three games. It seems like the 49ers are very committed to being healthy for the playoffs and not for the regular season. But, I mean, that's a tough. That's a tough game to play. Yeah. If Mack Jones gets you to the playoffs, you're going to bench him for purdy? Shannon would.

I don't know, man. Shanahan literally, yeah, I don't know. That was News & Note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers, not available in all states or situations. Coverage is subject to policy, terms, limits, and conditions. Should take another breath right there. All right.

Thursday night preview. I'm out of air. Night Breakdown. Las Vegas at 2 and 6. They take on that Denver Broncos, who are 7 and 2. The Raiders did compete against Jacksonville this past week. Denver, though, 9.5 point favorites, on fire. Overrunners 42.

Raiders implied point total is 16.5 points on Thursday. That is also the implied interception total for Gino Smith. 16.5? Yeah. I'm going to take, I'm going to take the under there. but the Broncos' defensive front, they are getting after quarterbacks. They have 40 sacks on the year. The next highest in the NFL is Detroit with 28.

They're on pace to break the all-time record. You know, that doesn't mean it'll happen, but that's just an example of how great their pressure has been. And when you add that to the other side of the field with Gino Smith has not looked good, certainly not in pressured situations. I don't have high expectations for him. Well, in this game, you play Brock Bowers, and you play Ashton Genty, and you check out probably because... Don't forget to cross your fingers and hope.

Just for those guys. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's fair. Ashton Jenty is, if we get that receiving work, you'll be okay. Which you will. You will, because you hear Kobe Myers has gone. Bess, Thornton, just... Does Bess get to play?

That's the thing. Tyler Lockett. Or are we going to roll Tyler Lockett out again? Just play Gentie and Bowers, because you're not going to not do that. Gentile will have 20 chances in the game, and Bowers is pretty. Brock Bowers. Yeah, where did you post the quote from Pete Carroll?

I just reposted it. Yeah, I thought it was, it was nice to hear talking about, yeah, Genti's doing great. I wish we would have got him the ball more on the perimeter a couple of times. Oh, but here's the thing. This is self-evaluation. He says because about 20% of the time

you're going to get him down, we just got to get that done more because it's so obvious. He's seeing that and saying, we need to get him the ball on the outside. Send that to the Patriots. Yeah, it went through my mind. Like that kind of self-evaluation went through my mind of like, hey, get a little bit more opportunity out in space.

Well, the other side of the ball, a little bit more confusing when you talk about the running back position for Denver. RJ Harvey is performing on limited opportunities, 27% of snaps, 32% of snaps. And yet RB6 and 11 because of the painted part of the field. Got into the end zone for a third straight week in the receiving game and only had two rushing attempts on the game. Seems like... That seems like a scary start. Yeah.

So Dobbins is a very easy start. Dobbins is darn near a must start in this because you expect the Denver Broncos to be up. Last week he got 15 carries to RJ Harvey's two. So even though RJ Harvey had the touchdown and against the really good Houston team, J.K. Dobbins was not able to be efficient, didn't have a good fantasy production,

was outscored by R.J. Harvey. He's certainly the player you want over R.J. Harvey. That being said, if you have to, like if there's a break glass of case of emergency, if they are up a lot, that's where R.J. Harvey will get more work. And he has been very explosive as advertised,

as hoped for when they drafted him. So, Dobbins must start Harvey in consideration, but. Demarcato or Harvey. Yeah, that's a perfect example. I would prefer Harvey. Chris Rodriguez or Harvey? Harvey. But that is the tier. So it's not

something you want to play, but it's something you can play all three of those guys if you need to. Reminder, though, because he is the type of player that is going to be coming in off your bench, if you start him, this is Thursday night football. Put him all the way into the running back slot. Leave your flex spot open.

Yeah, the explosiveness is helpful. Bo Nix, quarterback seven and fancy points per game on the year. So he's been a fourth quarter of quarterback. Yeah, I mean, those, he shouldn't be TV seven. He's going to need it early in this one, I think, with the way the defense is going to play. And yeah, let's throw Cortland Sutton the ball. You know, he's 30th and expected points for the first three quarters?

Bo Nix. Bo Nix? And fifth in the fourth quarter. I don't know. You never know what happens on Thursday night football. We've been surprised before. Geno Smith played his best game in the season by far last week. it was against the Jacksonville defense, it's pretty good.

I mean, 29 for 39, 79, 74% completion percentage, 284 and 4. You know, if you want higher upside in this game, you've got to hope that Brock Bowers can somehow not be covered by Denver because he can't really be covered by anybody. Yeah, and, I mean, reminder, Troy Franklin is just continuing to see an incredible amount of targets. It didn't, I mean, it didn't work for either him or Cortland Sutton last week against the Houston Texans

wasn't a super shocker but 10 targets the last three weeks The last three weeks He sounds like a WWF guy Last three weeks 10 targets, eight targets 10 targets

Like Troy Franklin is I think he's a fine play this week Yeah yeah I mean the Raiders are beat At the wide receiver position Those targets are happening The implied team total

for the Broncos. They're expected to score here, 26 points. So, yeah, he's an okay start. And I remind you. I remind you of this drop. I want it to be Pat Bryant, but it's Troy Franklin. Yeah, it is. And Jason said

it yesterday, you're going to have some ups and downs, but that's the way it goes at the wider zero position. You've had that with Cortland Sutton. And you don't doubt starting him. You've got to rely on opportunities. It's like I always say, Target share is there. Target It's matter. Just not in Cleveland.

Yeah, that's fine. You guys want to talk some mailbag? Sure. Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. All right. Let's answer some of your questions. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website,

the fantasy footballers.com. Click that, submit a question button. Or you can dial our voicemail hotline, 302464 TFFB. We do have a couple of voicemail questions we'll kick it off with and see if we can help you out for this upcoming week. Hey, ballers. I got a really tough question.

I am really solid at running back and I've got a good record. And I've got Ken Walker. I'm tried to trade him. Nobody wants him. I'm thinking of dropping him. Is that crazy? Yeah. Thanks, guys.

Oh, man. That is crazy. Now, I'm going to read you the last four weeks. Did you hear our waiver show on running backs yesterday? I don't want Ken Walker more than those guys. that's that's kind of where I was going and there is no one to pick up on waivers and you cannot have enough depth at running back position while his performances have been very poor for fantasy nine points four points six points seven points the last four games for Kenneth Walker gosh he's also

he's getting you know double digit opportunities every single game of the season and the offense now I think with Shahid and they're they're catching their stride the better the offense does, the better it is for Kenneth Walker. Oh my gosh. I can't believe his numbers are that low. He can make a big play at any moment. You need to keep him on the roster. Depth is so important. I agree. That's just depressing. It is depressing. You need to change.

We need to change what he is in our brains. Yeah, he's a running back too. He's averaging 9. He's averaging. Probably a three. He's a roster. If he feels like a roster clock right now. Well, look, look, I will put you in a position that you have a tough decision with a drop. You want one? Yeah. 24% of leagues this guy was available as of today

probably not anymore because the waivers went through but just for the fun of it Kyle Monongai or Ken Walker on your roster I'd rather have Ken Walker because I don't believe that even though as great as it was for Monongai I think he goes right back to his Walker is a committee back too

yes yeah yeah but I the he's the I think he might be the leader of the committee I don't know but two of the last three weeks Minangai top 12 running back yeah yeah I don't know I think it's more interesting question than I don't yeah I that's one where the names the names can be

the overwhelming part of it but I think if you if you factor in like you know there's been two times where Ken Walker's been a top 12 running back this year as well and you factor in the fact that Swift was out and that won't always be the case it's insane and they scored like 40 points of how the Seahawks

are so great and yet both of their running back are essentially like you you they're diaper gravy you put them in you put them in and you don't want to yeah yeah they day when you have a committee and they they're just doing what they need to do in the offense i mean it's not great ken walker is doing yeah so actually in fantasy right now half ppr um it looks like ken walker's averaging 10.1 fantasy points charbonate 8.9 fantasy points i mean i would um i mean are you telling me you would play ken walker over Monongai this week? Because I would not do that. Is D'Andre Swift playing?

Regardless. Let's say he is. I would probably play Walker. Okay. All right. Let's go on to another voicemail. Hey, ballers. So Jake from Virginia, quick question. I'm number two in my league and I have Jonathan Taylor. In that situation, would you trade Taylor for Bejohn straight up swap? In my mind, it could potentially secure the buy based on their running back. schedules and Jonathan Taylor still has a buy

and he'll be shown already at his thing. I mean, I like the way that you're thinking in terms of like paying attention to who's had the buy week and trying to get the buy for your own team. Oh, man. My first initial immediate gut reaction is like, no, you don't do that. The cold schedule. I did not realize what was about to happen.

So they get Atlanta this week. Who knows? Who knows which Atlanta defense will show up. But then you're on the buy. Then it's on the road against Kansas City. Houston. At home against Houston, at Jacksonville, at Seattle.

You have a fantasy championship week against Jacksonville. You get Seattle, San Francisco, like you said, Houston in week 18. And you can get Bejohn? The Atlanta runs. Bejones passes by. Atlanta goes Indianapolis this week, Carolina, New Orleans, the

Jets. Championship week is against the toughest run defense. Yeah, that part stinks. I'm, I think that that's a really, it's a fair question. It's a courageous trait. I guess I'm open to it. I remember we had this. Can't you get more than Bejohn if you wanted to? I, maybe. But the, I don't know, if I have Bejon, I'm pretty

happy with it. I'm not going to pay a lot to go get Johnny Taylor. Like, we had a few years ago, we had this situation where Derek Henry was destroying and you looked at and his strength of schedule

was the end of year was against just the juggernauts so it I get it what do you do I think so you have that big button in front of you to push that button are you pushing it? I have so much more confidence

I have Jonathan Taylor I'm not doing it Mike you have Bijon Robinson yeah I'm not doing it I don't it's it's weird I feel like the Colts. I don't think, I would, I wouldn't do it from either side. That's kind of how I feel. If I had Taylor, I would not trade to go get Bijon.

If I had Bejon, I wouldn't trade for Taylor. No, I, I, I, I, I, it's weird, but I think that's true. They're just the same irrational. Yeah. I like the Colts so much more. They're such a better offense. They had Sauce Gardner. The running game is going to be even more a focal point. Jonathan Taylor can overcome a tough matchup. Yeah, I would say the only, the only position where I would certainly make this trade is kind of the opposite of what he laid out, which is like if you're struggling and you need to get some wins, you know, which most people, Jonathan Taylor haven't been struggling too too much. But if you're, if you look and you see real significant byweek trouble and you're still trying to make the playoffs and you're on the outside right now

and you can skip that by. Yeah. I'm open to that. That's a pro move that you did do. I did have to go glance at the game against the Rams number one run defense when they played them. in week four Colts he's 12.1 fantasy points it was his worst game of the year oh no the last week was a disaster

all right here's a question Joey from Joey AZ on Instagram should I start Tyrone Tracy or Camara or just trade them both for nothing oh man so Tracy I play Tracy

the Tracy was in a time share. Yep. Like, he played 44% of the snaps. He had nine opportunities. Meanwhile, Devin Singletary played 56% of stamps

had 10 opportunities. Oh, so, Tracy's not a slam dunk play. Alvin Camara's been so bad. Alvin Camara's been so bad. The last three weeks... I think I'll do that one. The last three weeks for Alvin Camara,

4.4 fantasy points, 5.5. and this past week, 0.2 fantasy points. That was against, I will say this, the last two weeks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, hard to run on the Los Angeles Rams. We just mentioned the number one run defense. So it could get better. I don't think Shuck was too, too bad. And he can't over target Shaheed.

I'm going to play Camara. I'm going to go Camara, but you might be right to trade them both for nothing. I'll play Tracy. Justin Jefferson trade offer here from YouTube. Ethan wants to know, would you trade Jefferson for Waddle? and Jake Ferguson. No. I wouldn't.

No. Instagram question was offer Justin Jefferson for Kyron Williams. Is that a good trade? If you need a running back, it's perfectly fine. In this case, they would be getting... Or if you need a wide receiver... So whenever there's a straight one-for-one running back versus a wide receiver, what you're really asking is it is a fair trade.

Because this is team-specific, needs, depth, what you have around them. Take a look at your team and see what position you need. need more and where you can, you know, withstand losing the player, it is a fair trade across like Justin Jefferson is a little bit higher within wide receivers than Kyron is within running backs. Running backs are a little bit more scarce, so I think it's a fair trade. I just, uh, I just looked at it in our trade analyzer. Oh, it's dead middle. Oh, there you go. It's fair. Dead middle. Um, projected, yeah, and there you go. So we did it. Uh, oh, that's BB on Instagram. Marvin Harrison or

Quentin Johnston this week. Marv at Seattle Quge against Pittsburgh. I want to say Quge. I want to say Marv. I think I'm going to say Marv. Harrison being forced fed the ball at the beginning of the game

and then turning out that works. You know, there was the report that came out that like on the bus right before the game they decided the opening drive they're going to like have target Marvin, force him to get involved. That's the way it was worded. Guys, guys, guys. Got an idea.

You're 27 games into his career. Let me finish the idea before you call me crazy. What if that guy we took number four overall? What if we just pepper in with targets? We warmed him up over 27 games. The fact that they came out was embarrassing. Now they're going to think we're going to do it again. Do you know how dysfunctional all of our thoughts are about this team? All right, let me take a break and we'll get into some more questions. all right matt on instagram wants to know jalen waddle or nico rest of season oh man

that's kind of sad there's an article that came out on the website today looking at dynasty tears amazing really good article by Kyle kind of in the context of discussions you guys had on the dynasty show it I was looking at all the tears

and the breakdowns in there. The three that got me the most that were like, I thought the hardest decision-making process for, I think it was Tier 3, Tier 4 wide receivers was the Garrett Wilson, NICO, where they belong. Nico was like down in Tier 4 in this article. Yeah.

And that kind of bugged me. Yeah. That was the one that stood out as like, do I agree with that or not? It's wild. Because of talent versus what's happening. On a non-Dynasty standpoint, having lost, you know,

a lot of the other wide receivers, options, including Tiger Hill. Jalen Waddle's been very good. He has. I also look at Week 16, Week 17, Cincinnati and Tampa Bay. Two teams that, you know, you're going to need to Juicy. Score on. Are you going Waddle? I'm going Waddle here. I think, I think that's the right call. Man, crazy. Malachi on YouTube, sup, meowlers. I don't know if I like that. A little Mac here, and I was wondering what Breeze Hall's rest of season outlook is with him not being traded. He'll be used so much. Yeah. That's what's going to happen. I mean, I tried to put myself in Breece Hall's shoes. And my goodness, I mean, this is like a lame duck running back on a team that has not really wanted you and yet is totally willing to listen to you and give you tons of work when you want it. And like, oh, man, his tweet. His tweet. He's so funny. Where he's got nothing to lose.

After the trade deadline was over and he said he's like, I'm paraphrasing here. He said, oh, I'm sick about it. You know, losing these guys. I'm so happy for them. But it was like, wait, you're so, you just came out and said, these guys who left the Jets so happy for them. Well, when you have,

when you're the player, you're the human being and the team with their actions, I mean, I don't, I'm not privy to all contract discussions, but with their actions and what's being reported is, like,

he's not being offered a lucrative long-term deal from the New York Jets. Oh, of course not. And then, no, that's not happening. And yet at the, same time. They're like, no, but you are valuable because we will only trade you if we get a

third round pick. Which one is it? Am I valuable to this team or am I not? Well, here's the real truth. How do you make that decision as a Jets franchise to not trade him for a four when you're going to let him go? You want to win more games than have a worst pick? I don't know. It's weird. I still don't know how he will factor into the compid story pick math. I presume he'll get a good contract, but that's what I wanted to bring up is like what's going on for Brise Hall rest of season. outlook. He is playing for his contract now. Going into last game,

he said basically, I need the ball 20, 25 times. And it worked. They got their first win. And he said it a little differently. Yeah, I did. I did. Keep moving. Oh, did you. You miss the joke the first time, Ann, you're missing the second

joke? Yeah, I guess so. We don't need to bring it up again. I definitely think he's going to be very good for fantasy rest of season. He's got a couple brutal matchups here of Cleveland, New England, Baltimore, then you get,

I mean, Baltimore looks good on paper, but I think it's going to be tough. I'm not looking at Brise as the key to my fantasy championship. Yeah, just trying to figure out if the schedule can tell us anything.

Then Atlanta, then Miami, it's going to be tough, but he will get the ball. So, so much. Now, we still don't know

who the quarterback is, though. Keep that in mind. That's true. It was, can't you get, the budget magician, stuff, right? Yeah. The competitive advantage. You know who didn't need the competitive advantage

this week? And it's rare we can give them credit. Jonathan Gannon. Jonathan Gannon. I know a lot of value to establishing the quarterback at the beginning of the week is what you said. What you're saying this week? Yeah. Yeah. Well, last week you kind of did it. I'm talking about this week. He did come out early and say there's advantage to just having an established as your quarterback. I mean, you lose that competitive advantage, but there's a fit. There's just everything. Rashid Jehita Jameson Williams rest of the season Jamo got into the end zone again this week Great play

Shahi I would go Jamo but you know I'm I have to withdraw Yeah I get that I actually would go Jamo as well You know off the by they They seem like they wanted to get him involved He was involved Their schedule opens up

And You know Shahid We don't know how involved he's going to be It's still JSN's team so it's close It could be the wrong call But I would stick with Jameson's It's funny because it's It's a very similar situation.

Do they catch a touchdown, do they not? I mean, the Lions are Amman Ross team. Yeah, this was, so I brought the stat up earlier in the, either in the season or in the offseason where it was like Jameson Williams and Rashid were drafted in the same draft class and had played the exact same number of games. And it was their stat line career. And she dominated Jameson Williams. Right. Jameson missed a lot of games. No, no, no. They played the exact amount of games.

Same 100% amount of games. Yeah, with Horton and Kopp and Oroyo and stuff, I don't think Shaheed's going to get as much as maybe Jamo, but who knows? Maybe. It's the... It's close. I think it's safer to go with Jameson Williams. I mean, just the complete unknown of Shahid.

But, like, the Lions running backs are going to score points. And as of right now, the Seahawks running backs are scoring zero points. Hatfield. How do you handle Learons? league mates that don't respond to trade offers. Hatfield on Instagram asks us. I shake my fist to them. The question.

They don't respond. Public shaming. I don't know. I mean, usually the truth is the people that don't respond to trades, what I do is I text them or I DM them on whatever platform, like if you're playing on sleeper, try to poke them. Yeah. Usually those people that never respond also don't respond to the DMs or the pokes.

So then, yeah, public outcry. The only problem with the public shaming is that that does not get you a yes on the trade. That is true. It gets you a no on the trade guarantee. It might get you a future response because the player goes, I should respond to trades. Rob asks a follow-up question or similar one. What is the best app to play fantasy on that would promote trading the best, tired of boring leagues? We play on Sleeper.

Yeah, and I would say to answer the question, there's pros and cons in all leagues. But if you want something that promotes trades, that means. promoting communication and sleeper's great at that i wish that sleeper and maybe they're listening because they often are i wish that there was the option or ability to like man this is going to sound so old but i wish they when i used to get a trade offer when i was on yes people yeah i'd get an email when the trade comes through because sometimes they're their notifications their mobile notifications they don't always work yeah sometimes you get a notification sometimes you don't i've had times when they don't yeah to be able to turn on email notifications for trades specifically you'd

I feel like for you, it would be a good old-fashioned phone call. Right. If they could give me an automate, because they have my number. Dude, I'll take a text. Like, this is a sleeper. You have been offered Jameson Williams. Or fax me. Yeah.

Yeah. Go door to door. I don't know. Boring leagues suck. People just, do me, respond to trades. How about that? Just respond to them. You don't have to do a lot.

Just click no. But that's the thing. That's the thing. Like, I am someone who. often doesn't respond to trades, it is 100% of the time because I didn't know a trade was made. I just don't see it. Somebody needs a phone call. I have too many notifications because I think I get the notifications, but I get so many notifications. I'm just like, I'm ignoring everything now. Yeah, the phone call would help, Andy. Yeah, I'm going to call you from now on and say, I just sent you

a tradeover. I would never be upset. Could you imagine being upset if someone, if you got a phone call from anyone in the league ever? And they're like, hey, I just want to let you know I made you a trade offer. that's like a little a little golden you know nugget of of happiness that's placed

inside me like ooh I got a who's not when you see trade offer proposed you get when you do recognize that

notification no one goes oh yeah but I'm I'm trying to take you sure I'm trying to I'm trying

I can't call you if I think I'm a whoop you in this trade oh sure you can yeah all right that was today's

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