Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 10 Studs & Duds + Broken League, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/10
Episode Date: November 10, 2025Fantasy Football show for Nov 10, 2025. Week 10 fantasy football reactions! Which down performances are the most concerning going forward? Plus, injury updates, and outlooks for the rest of the fantas...y football season! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(04:10) Monday Punday(06:05) NFL News(12:10) Fantasy Studmuffins(12:15) QB Studs (15:55) RB Studs(22:45) WR Studs(33:45) TE Studs(35:45) Fantasy Duds(35:50) QB Duds(38:25) RB Duds(41:50) WR Duds(01:00:43) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Just another 95 degree November day here in Arizona, Monday, November 10th.
Is it really that hot?
Yeah, it's pretty normal.
It was pretty hot yesterday.
Any minute now.
It's going to cool down.
It was pretty hot in the NFL yesterday.
Ooh, baby.
Goodness gracious.
Ooh, baby.
You know, sometimes there's those weeks where you're watching the, you're watching the,
morning games or if you're in the East Coast
your first whatever you call them, afternoon
games. Afternoon games.
Whatever you call it.
You know that time, it's like it's after the morning.
It's not the evening. I don't know.
It's just past noon. We should name it something.
But sometimes
we're watching and the whole first quarter
of all these games are going. It's like, who
had a touchdown? Who's got anything?
Like this was not
that type of week. I mean, this was
everyone got one. Everyone got one.
And then you had those.
massive performances. Those ones were like week 15 of 20, 24, those crazy 40 plus point
performances that you get ever now. And then we had three. We had three. We had two of them
this week that don't even matter because of one of them. It's insane. They matter.
Well, sure. They really, really matter when you're facing two of them. I was, I was in a
healthy lead. I blinked. A. Chan, Gibbs scored twice. They got
40 plus points, Jonathan Taylor, 50 plus points.
And then you had these boring performances, like, you know, Travion Henderson
scoring twice from 50 plus yards away.
147 rushing yards, full breakout.
Week 10.
Are we talking about them already?
Are we waiting on that?
What, do you have something prepared?
I just want to know if we're talking about him.
He wants to know.
10 weeks of angst.
I just want to know when we're talking about it.
We'll be ready.
Not yet.
We've got time.
Keep your pants on.
Just keep your pants on.
We've got a lot to talk about, though.
We do have Monday-Punday reactions, your reactions to the weekend.
NFL news and, of course, injuries to talk about studs and duds in week number 10.
And, you know, and then the rest of the show will be Davis Mills.
It'll just be all Davis Mills, superstar Davis Mills.
And, man, Jacksonville, my goodness.
Goodness me.
Goodness, oh my.
We have a lot to react to.
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What in the world?
What was that?
embraced it. He ended it with a real
What? What? It was a wild
animal. All right. Monday Ponday reactions
you sent them in. We will read them
in a sophisticated manner.
Well,
we'll start with the good, the great,
the awesome. How about Jonathan
Taylor?
Yes. Goddethan Taylor.
Yeah. Trey Mendus Henderson.
Trayvion Wenderson.
That's right.
A mecca a big boost
How about
A mecca, my dreams come true
And, oh, this is nice, a little
My Guy redemption weekend
LeBron Jameson Williams
Um, Drake
Berlin
Because he went off in Germany
Oh no, we get it
Thank you, Jason
No
We
Devon A champ
Chris Olavier
And Jemiers
Give me that
Guse me dead
All right
The bad
Boo Nix
Boo Nix
Yeah
Garrett Nilsen
Michael
Poopman Jr.
Decoy
Metcalf
Oh that's
Broke Bowers
Yeah
Brock bowel movement
Or
Disgustin Jefferson
Yeah
And Jordan
Battison
Jordan subtraction
I like the Jordan
Subtraction
Yeah that's a good one
Yeah
C.J that's a math
joke
what? Oh, because you're explaining it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't want him to miss out. Well, the reason I brought it up with the...
No, but when I was looking at these early this morning... You didn't get it. I didn't get it.
And I genuinely, I almost deleted it out. I'm like, Berlin's not like better than London. I think London's even better than Berlin. You know, you can make an argument. I was like, oh. Everyone else got it.
Yeah, well, sure. And then they played in in... No, where did they play, Jay?
Berlin. Oh, okay.
That's Germany.
Yeah, that game was a fun one too.
Yeah.
It was a wild weekend.
News and notes from around the league.
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I'm just seeing this.
Brown's head coach, Kevin Stefansky says he's sticking with quarterback Dylan Gabriel
and will quote, continue to coach him up.
Yeah.
That guy does not like Shedur Sanders.
He still will probably get a shot at some point.
Gabriel,
no, it's worse than I remember.
I feel like I was watching the game and I'm like, hey,
hey, Dylan Gabriel's making a couple of plays here.
He had a couple good passes.
I mean, he threw two touchdowns, but completed Tyler Shuck.
He completed 53%.
Dude, Shuck was okay.
Yeah.
Yep, okay.
But Dylan Gabriel completed 53% of his passes.
I didn't realize it was that low.
A couple updates for the Monday night football game,
Don Tavian Wicks, Matthew Golden, questionable for tonight.
Sequin and A.J. Brown off the injury report.
Good to go.
We had hip drop tackle weekend.
J.K. Dobbins, getting a second opinion on a foot injury.
Happened in the late third quarter.
Another hip drop tackle.
We had an injury.
Hopefully you saw that, like this one kind of snuck through the cracks of the weekend news reporting.
He finished the game.
And then all of a sudden, oh, J.K. Dobbins is getting a second opinion?
Well, he came out and tweeted very angrily at the NFL.
They don't seem capable of seeing them in the moment.
I don't know.
I mean, in replay, it's obvious when it happens,
but it must be harder for them to see live or used to not.
Yeah, they didn't call it.
It's the training on calling that is taking longer than it should.
It is a terrible, terrible play.
I mean, it causes injuries so much.
You know, and I think J.K. Dobbins, like,
we'll have more information as the week goes on.
However, there's a good chance he misses this coming week.
Jackson Dart left early with a concussion, the Giants quarterback.
The fourth time he's been evaluated for a concussion this year.
It's not good.
He has to change something about the way he's finishing plays, I would say.
He was great.
I mean, this is the third game they've had over a 95% chance to win that they've lost.
And so it's hard not to lay that at the, I mean, it's been,
bad luck, but that's coaching, too. A little bit, but I mean, you lost Jackson DART. You lost
Jackson DART for the, you know, in the fourth. I don't think they lose this game if they don't
lose Jackson DART. Well, they've lost three like this. Three of them where they had, they had the
game completely won. And now they've, you know, no team's ever done that before with this 96, 97%
win percentage and blown them at the end of the game. Garrett Wilson re-injured his knee. I mean,
Garrett Wilson, at this point in time, is looking like somebody you shouldn't factor into your, the finish of your season.
It's just contributing to a title.
It is odd.
I mean, he only played 39% of the snaps.
And, I mean, you know, he's had, when you're looking at actual full games, he's had one dud,
four tremendous games.
But, yeah, the way that Fields is, that, the Fields is, that, the Fields
from yesterday. Like, that's, it's untenable for fantasy football.
Devante Adams, if you watched him, he, he went to make another one of his little
jukes on a route. He ended up with an oblique injury. According to Sean McVeigh, he could
have returned if the game had been closer. That one. He tried to come in. As soon as they got
to the, it was like first and goal. He was like trying to get in. He's the goal line back.
Yeah, he's like, he's like, wait, wait, I can get a touchdown. That particular injury.
Like, you know, the knees of stuff?
You're like, yeah, I see that happened.
The Devante Adams one, that looked like an old man.
Old man.
That was an old man.
That was, I know that.
I know what he did.
I've done that.
I mean, make a little move pretty quick.
They're like, ah, my back.
Someone called your name.
You're like, hey, Mikey, you're like, huh?
If you turn too quickly?
No, it was.
It was an old man injury.
This sucks.
Arande Gadsden.
Yeah.
Left with a knee injury.
Didn't return.
He went to the blue tent, then to the locker room.
R. I today for Gadsden. That sucks.
Yeah, fingers crossed there. That one could be, I mean,
man, that would be so sad if this was like a full season-ending knee injury.
It was a contact injury, so his knee rammed into somebody.
It can still be serious, but I don't think ACL has been brought up yet.
Dalton Kincaid hamstring injury didn't return to the game.
Bam Knight, ankle injury didn't return.
the Zay Jones one was wild
because he was like turning to complain to the ref
and then also he went oh my Achilles
yeah Zay Jones heard as well
we have not heard if it was a full
tear yet at least I haven't seen anything
Chris Rodriguez left with the shoulder injury didn't return
he had scored in this game for the commanders
Brock Purdy when talking about him
returning for week 11
more quotes from Shanahan
again's I do believe he's further along than he was in week
four. I do believe. That's like saying seven o'clock at night is later than one in the afternoon.
I'm actually the oldest I've ever been this year. Right. It's, I mean, you don't need to say things like
that. He gets asked questions. We ask dumb questions and you get dumb answers. A dumb question like,
can you return in week 11? Yeah, I think that's a pretty normal question. What questions do you want
us to ask? Do you want a yes or no answer? How about, yeah, he might return. That's what he said.
Okay. But he added, he did a Jason Moore thing where he added something that was unnecessary.
Yeah, because they want bigger quotes. I don't know.
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Let's talk studs.
This week's fantasy stud muffins, presented by Lowe's.
Some of you might have been distracted by, you know, Jared Gough, having a nice,
week, Caleb Williams, Jackson
Dart, Matthew Stafford, continuing as...
You're hiding the real story. MVP campaign, which
by the way, it's Matthew Stafford.
I mean, he is an MVP candidate
at this point. It is wild. But Davis Mills,
number one overall in terms of... Number one on the week,
number one worst hider
in a bush. Oh, because it's...
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hard to hide a giraffe. Yes.
This was...
It was possible. It was 29 to 10 going into the 4th.
It's hard to hide a giraffe.
It is hard to hide a draft, Mike.
What's crazy is the Jaguars just completely obliterated the Texans.
I mean, they dominated the game, and then they lost.
Yeah, and 29 to 10 is, you know, there were 98.4% win probability.
This was not what he wanted.
Oops.
I mean, this is always going to come back to Trevor Lawrence.
It's just always going to come back to Trevor Lawrence
Because you can't do this
I mean that's a devastating
You can't lose with a 19 point lead in the fourth
To Davis Mills
You can't do that
It's devastating you're not six and four
And the Texans at three and six
Like it
Jacksonville tweeted right after the third quarter
Finish it
And they did
And they did it and they did
Their season
They tagged the Texans in that
Matthew Stafford, four more touchdowns, no interceptions.
First player in NFL history with four plus passing touchdowns and no interceptions
than three straight games.
He is playing the best he's ever played.
Yeah.
So.
Devante Adams helps.
Yeah, I was going to say hopefully Adams is okay.
He was the start of the week for Mike as well.
Jackson Dart was awesome.
I mean, he was utilizing Darius Slayton down the field, his tight ends, his legs.
His rushing was just, I mean, he looked, there were, there were a couple of plays
It just felt almost Lamar Jackson-esque where it's like, how do you, how did you squeeze out of that?
He's slippery.
He is very, very slippery.
He is so much fun.
Like a seal.
So much fun to watch.
No.
And we got it.
Watch it now while you can.
Dart, you got to get this thing figured out.
Limited time only.
Or you're not going to last.
Yeah, you just have to make the adjustment to the end of that play.
I mean, you can be slippery.
Just learn to slide.
Slipping slide.
Yeah.
Slip and slide.
Who doesn't love a slip and slide?
I don't know.
Jackson Dart hates it.
Caleb Williams looked really good.
When you give him time in the pocket, I'll say this.
Caleb Williams can make mistakes and all of that,
but another big win for them.
They came back in this game.
And when you give him time in the pocket, man,
he can get the ball downfield accurately.
Laser beam of an arm.
But watching him frequently feels like I'm watching.
You know, on an infomercial,
when they set up the product
and they're just like fumbling and bumming
and doing normal stuff.
You're just like trying to hold a couple of cereal bowl.
That's Caleb Williams playing.
And then he says, he's like, rocket arm.
Yeah, he's like, bro, let's, you don't kind of panic so early.
Yeah, he does do that.
Jason, you start of the week, Baker Mayfield.
Put it together.
Touchdown to Abuka, two of them to Tess Johnson this week.
They did.
Laser, ma'am.
They did lose the game.
It was a close one.
Well, the second Tess was kind of stinky, wasn't it?
It was a pre-on-site kick stink.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're still trying to win.
They count them.
All right.
Running backs this week, Jonathan Taylor was all right.
Oh, my gosh.
Man.
You have them on your team, Jason.
I have had some big performances from Jonathan Taylor that I was able to still lose.
You know, they said it couldn't be done.
And Jonathan Taylor, he looked at me and he goes, he looked at me and he goes,
I got you. You can't lose this one.
Well, just 32 for 244 and
3. Wow. Including the
overtime touchdown to win the game.
And then another three targets for 42
receptions. He's the only player in NFL history
with four games of
three plus rushing touchdowns in the first
10 weeks. Monster. Yeah.
At the longest run of the season.
I need to see the cumulative
numbers right now on the season.
He's 189.
What is on pace for? No, no. I just want to see
where he's at.
189 for 1139 and 15 through 10 weeks he is finished number one at the position on the week on a weekly
basis four times four times which is wild I mean that's really hard to do five times he's on pace
for basically 2,000 yards almost another 500 receiving 25 rushing touchdowns three receiving
touchdowns. I mean... Remember the question last
week that was like, would you trade him because of the bad schedule
for Bejean? And then we thought through
it all. And then it was like, no.
Yeah. That's why.
Atlanta's not a good match.
I was going to say the schedule was not supposed
to be great this week. So
just amazing.
Like,
everybody that has, that doesn't have him,
like the team in your league that has them might win because of
him. Like, they might just win the championship because
of John the team. I sure hope so.
Devon A. Chan, 37.
17.5. Jamir Gibbs, 36.7. I mean, both of those guys were incredible. Breakaway touchdown runs
for both of them, multiples. You know, Gibbs, what a bounceback week from the week before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And A-Cham was great. Traybion Henderson. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Oh, he's got the hate
blockers out. Huh? Now it's time. Hey, Twitter. Guess who's not bad at football? You freaking goons.
I got a lot of people
in my mentions who owe me an apology
because
he's good
he's good
oh runs to the outside
oh my God they worked
oh my God
he's the fastest man on live
freaking idiots
somebody's butt
has been clinched for nine weeks
and it is letting it out now
yeah
took a dukelax
14 for 147 and 2
had a 55 yarder
And a 69-yarder.
Yeah.
Oh, very nice.
He is a man of the people.
I mean, we did try for this.
We did.
We said on the show, the reason why this hadn't happened yet is because we hadn't united.
And we united and we did this for you.
Yeah, I mean, we put the hands in the middle of the table.
Uh-huh.
And we had a whole moment.
You're welcome.
You're welcome, Mike.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No.
That's funny.
Oh, oh, get in on it.
Get in on it.
It was, I mean, we did it.
I mean, the real truth is this.
This doesn't happen without those injuries.
That's the sad part.
That is the sad part.
Well, that's why we're always so frustrated.
It's not right.
It's just true.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with it.
It is totally true.
And will it, did he do enough to like take over the job?
He did enough to.
I can't say that for sure.
But the point is simply,
opportunities showed up for Trayvion Henderson.
And that's the most rushing yards that Tampa Bay has allowed all year.
Yeah, I mean, what he did was certainly enough to earn more.
work. Whether he's ever going to become
the sole and only back when
Romandre Stevenson is healthy.
You're a better team with him. You're a better team with him.
Yeah, I mean, you're a better team when he plays.
It's so frustrating
to feel like, oh man, you
you know, we must be wrong. He must not be good. He's not
getting on the field. It's like, no, he is.
We knew that. And he's still
required that injury to be allowed to go
be great at football. Let me
let me help the story.
here, okay? When Jonathan Taylor was a rookie, he didn't score 15 fantasy points until
week 13 of the season. When Jemir Gibbs was a rookie, he did not finish inside the top
10 until week 7. When Bucky Irving was a rookie last year, he did not finish inside the top 10
until week 10, that's what we got with Henderson. And that was enough. Yeah, it's a breakout.
You know, the next three weeks? The jets, the bangles, and the giants. Oh, my. Just keep
giving him opportunities. Please. So it was, it was great.
I think the whole world was waiting to see you put those glasses on those that were at home.
Mike was wearing some glasses to scream into the camera.
He's just, you know, he's good.
Yeah, there's a lot, when players struggle that you believe in, it's not fun.
You know, this was a good week for Jason said it when I walked in.
It was a nice My Guy redemption week.
We got another great week from Jameson Williams, which was cool to see over this back half.
We can talk about that in a minute.
Kairn, two more touchdowns on the ground.
If Devante's hurt, Kairn's ceiling goes up.
Yep, for sure.
Breece Hall, one big catch, really.
One for 42 and one, but guess what?
They don't have any other players.
I mean, 21 for 83 on the ground is against Cleveland.
That's okay.
No, it's a good game.
We talked about the red light green light, and here we are again.
Kamani Vidal.
Hope you played them, like we said.
Yeah.
I mean.
Now.
With stunning analysis.
Yes.
Now,
Benjamin.
Why is it going to be good?
Because he was bad last week.
Come on.
Yeah, that's...
Don't be stupid.
It's easy.
What else do we have?
We have some wide receivers to talk about,
but we'll take a break first.
Before you jump into receivers,
just want to highlight Woody Marks.
It wasn't like an overwhelming fantasy day,
but 14 for 63 and 1,
2 for 18 through the air.
80% of the snaps
like the if you were holding
on to the hope that Nick Chubb can still
give you some work
Woody Marks has taken this backfield over
It's funny because Chubb was so good on his five carries
He was 9.4 a carry
But Woody Marks yeah the takeover happened
The trend was moving up for him
And Charbonnet by the way 14 for 83 in a touchdown
Yeah he actually looked good
He was still out snapped by Walker
But he had a couple big carries
Similar to the Woody Mark's takeover of the backfield, Aaron Jones, who has looked significantly better than Jordan Mason this year.
He played 71% of the snaps.
It wasn't 50, 50, and he was great.
Well, the number one wide receiver on the week had the privilege of being, quote, unquote, shadowed by Sauce Gardner.
Except for he wasn't because he moved into the slot and then a linebacker tried to cover him and he had an easy touchdown.
I watched that play waiting to see Sauce cover him.
he's nowhere near him
I'm not
I don't know the ins and the outs
of being a professional DB
of like some guys
you can only play the outside
they don't have the skill set
to move to the slot
but it's just so funny to me
that there's like this imaginary boundary
and sauce is like
you're Drake London
you're in my house
you're going nowhere
you can't do nothing
and then Drake London takes like
five steps in he's like
no
my one weakness
you moved over slightly
Yeah, no, it's fair.
What can I possibly do, coach?
What do I do?
And they're like, no, you're off.
Don't abandon.
Listen, guys, we got to shut down London.
So we're going to shadow him in this game.
Okay, Sauce, you are on him everywhere.
Everywhere.
Except that Bermuda Triangle spot.
Just run around it.
It's so wild to me.
Yeah, it was crazy.
They pulled it out in overtime.
The Colts did.
But Drake London was great.
Number two on the week, Jameson Wood.
There we go, baby.
And people need to know there was a fundamental change in this offense.
Dan Campbell took over play calling.
Yeah, he'd had enough.
He was tired of the lack of utilization.
I think of Jamo and other, I mean, Gibbs, the offense was so much better this week.
And Jameson Williams, he scored in three of four.
He's been very relevant.
And I hope those of you that were burnt in the beginning of this year, this continues.
And you get some redemption from Jamison Williams.
It made no sense.
Honestly, it's extremely similar to Trayvion in the fact that it wasn't a lack of performance necessarily.
It was a lack of opportunities.
Yeah.
I mean, his, honest, his made less sense to me than Henderson.
Like, Henderson's a rookie.
It happens.
Some coaches are crumagony, and they're like, I'm going to put inefficient fumbleman in front of you.
Jameson Williams was given a truckload of cash.
Yeah, and look what he's capable of doing when you give him space.
His was so weird.
So it was, it was great to see those two guys up over 20 points.
Those afternoon games sucked for us, the night games for you East Coasters.
When it was all 40 to 20, across all three games, boring.
Ameca, a buca, baby.
Wow.
20.5 fantasy points, 13 more targets and needed it.
Needed the a mecca bounceback game.
Nico Collins up at 19.
He's good at football.
So that was nice to see as well.
I didn't mention Jalen Naylor because no one will play Jalen Naylor, but there are a lot of people, I, by the way, by the way, I, I saw this morning someone was very upset. I guess we have to take accountability. Oh, no, what'd we do? We are the reason that they drafted Justin Jefferson in their fantasy draft. Oh, okay. And it hasn't worked out because of us. That's on, that's on us. That's on us. I don't know what we were thinking.
but Jaylin Naylor's the guy, and we all should have known it.
It was not a great week for Jefferson.
And JJ McCarthy, he did the same exact thing,
where you can see it on a few plays.
Not enough.
No, it's not consistent enough.
It is, it was 12 targets for Justin Jefferson,
including a, yeah, his accuracy is all over the point.
he is talking about j jay j mccarthy 48% in this game we did have the weird
bomb to to jefferson in single coverage and the feet caught and jefferson just fell down
and then did nothing like he just he didn't even try to tackle him after the interception he's
like he was i hope the rest of my team was watching for those blindside blocks man that's what
he was afraid of but so yeah it until j j j jay mccarthy can turn it on you because you
You traded for Jefferson, and, you know, that was your big trade of the year to try to lock in for the playoffs.
You know, he obviously didn't help you this week.
Yeah, that's the thing.
There's some worry, right?
I mean, there was, there was concerned when trading for him, knowing that this was a possibility.
The schedule is much better here.
Now, back when I was looking at the trade, Baltimore had not completely bounced back.
You know, we talked about that on the show last week that, don't.
look at Baltimore's numbers of the beginning
of the year. They are a much different defense now.
But Chicago
next week,
Jefferson, he's still mostly
been over 10 points a week. This one was
just particularly bad. I believe
Baltimore can take the division lead next
week. That makes sense.
Five and four Steelers, four and five,
Baltimore, three and six,
Cincinnati, two and seven Cleveland. And they look
like they're back. Yeah.
And they, I know they were the favorites
before this week to win the division.
We talked about Nico.
Chris Olavay got it done with Tyler Shuck.
One of them was a nice down the sideline.
DB fell down.
He took it to the house.
I mean, he had an impressive catch on the sideline.
I was going to post some video of him today.
Five for 104 and one.
It was nice in the first game.
I mean, this was the first game without Shaheed with Shuck.
I had talked about Shuck last week that I know it was a really bad loss to the Rams.
Yeah.
But he didn't play bad.
He really, really didn't.
you know, if you didn't watch the game, he looked good.
And in this, in this game, he played well again.
I think, you know, I'm not saying Shuck is going to be a future star by any means.
Zero interceptions, two touchdowns, 282 yards passing, 70% completion.
Against Carolina.
On the road against Carolina.
Let's go.
And they got the win.
I want to pull all those Tyler Shuck cards out of the trash.
My Tyler Shuck cards are very happy.
Yeah.
I will say this, man.
I love Olave as a wide receiver.
I think he is an outstanding wide receiver.
And if by some miracle, Chuck is that guy and he has a quarterback and he can do the thing that, you know,
we waited for Terry McLaurin to do.
We waited for DJ Moore to do.
It's like, this is a good guy.
He just doesn't have a quarterback.
You just need the prescription is neighbors in New York last year.
Yeah.
It's just like you're the dude.
Target him a million times a game.
It's your best chance at winning.
Shaheed's gone.
Shuck can be the Russell Wilson, Daniel Jones of last year for neighbors.
Oh, man, Russ is.
Sucks.
Russ is so bad.
Ladd-McConkey, another great game, 4-4-107.
Ladd McConkey, my guy finalist,
has really, really turned it on here.
No, he's been great, and, you know,
Keenan Allen's paid the price.
Yeah, Ken and Allen, another awful game.
That was the only player that we talked about
that I wasn't comfortable starting of that group.
Yeah, hasn't.
hasn't had 50 receiving yards in a month now.
You're talking about chargers, all-time leading receiver?
Yeah.
I think it's receptions.
I don't know if it's yards.
Yeah.
Probably not yards.
Tess Johnson, two touchdowns in this one on just four catches.
Five targets for him, 13 for Ibuka.
But, you know, Tess keeps making plays.
Something to pay attention to if they don't get any reinforcements back in the receiving game.
Yeah, while Mike Evans is out, I'm happy to start Tess Johnson.
any week. When you've got Baker, he can support enough. He can support more than
just a Bucca. Well, Roma Dunzee bounced back. Jason, your start of the week. First play
of the game, I think he had a target. And did you see his comments after the game? He just goes,
thanks, dad. But six for eighty-six and a touchdown. JSN barely needed him, but still five
for 93 in a touchdown. For the people who don't, they didn't realize what happened, Seattle
shall act Arizona 44 to 22. Sam Darnold threw the ball 12 times.
Yeah, Sam Darnold had a good game.
12 times. And a terrible fantasy game. And if you didn't watch what happened is you
you turn the game on and you're like, oh shoot, I missed a couple minutes. Why is it 35 to
nothing? And it was two defensive scores. Back to back. Back to back. So it was just like. Same
play. Same player. It was take the ball from Jacoby Brissette and run it in. Yeah. So
Darnold certainly wasn't good
for your fantasy, but don't go dropping him or something
because he was fine.
I'm going to flag this. Jerry Judy had his first
good game of the year, 6 for 78 and a touchdown
on 12 targets, and it was the first game
that Kevin's the fancy gave up play calling
duties to somebody else.
It was weird.
It was like
he's been invisible this year. Just keep that
on your radar. The fact that Jerry Judy had
12 targets. You don't generally ignore
12 targets. Yeah.
What is your rule on
these are Cleveland targets?
That counts as six targets.
Okay.
This game was weird, watching him the whole time.
Like so many boneheaded mistakes.
Well, that is the Judy.
A couple weeks ago, he had 13 targets and finished with 43 yards.
So you're saying don't pay attention to them.
I'm saying I'm not paying attention to it.
This was also the Jets after they got rid of Quinn and Williams and Sauce Gardner.
The defense is, you know, toast.
Jaylon Waddle, great again.
Devante Adams great again.
And then let's talk about Alex Pierce.
Alex Pierce, another top 15 finish, back-to-back weeks, four-for-84 and a touchdown.
Most of it was done in the first half of this game.
But it seems to be a go-to receiver, and he is just, he's a big hulking downfield threat.
They take enough shots his way, and the nice thing is for fantasy is these aren't screens.
You know what I mean?
They take three or four bombs a game.
He is averaging.
I mean, since he came back from injury, his average yards per reception is 21.8 yards per reception.
Yeah, he had a big touchdown in this one, averaging 7.8 targets per game over the last month.
The nice thing about a player like Pierce is you get some, it's a great offense.
He plays almost every single snap.
I mean, you see him out there all game long.
And then it takes like one play to give you like the ROI, right?
Like you get one 46-yard catch.
in the middle of the game and like you're not burnt by the start and then you've got the upside
of downfield touchdowns so you know it's it's definitely going to be a pitman and pierce above
downs situation there the game turned into all tyler warren in the second half it went from
pierce in the first half to warn in the second half they didn't really use downs they didn't really
use pitman yeah i wouldn't say all i would say jonathan taylor had a little bit to do in the receiving game
yeah uh tight ends tray mcbride is a machine with chobby brissette wow five touchdowns and four games
games, yep. He actually had two. One got called back.
Yes. And then that turned into Dorch. Yeah. George Kittle, nice game from Kittle with the athletic, what, extension across the goal line. That could have been a, like, a risky fumble play. That's dangerous. Another good My Guy redemption, coming back strong.
Dewan Johnson, Dalton Schultz and Tyler Warren, rounding out the top five.
Dalton Schultz with Davis Mills. It's just Davis Mills. Dalton Schultz has.
been if you haven't paid attention to it over the last month he has been double digits of
three of four games well if i need a new uh a new tight-in for gadsden maybe i'll move on to the
closest man on earth maybe yeah his his last month he would be on pace for over a thousand yards
over a hundred receptions perfect all right perfect and uh if you hang outon oh okay that was a little
bit of a face off right yeah i was just going to say kate otton had 12 targets um still a very
worthy play. Nobody. Nobody gets hit harder than Kadaud.
It's crazy, man. I turned into the, I mean, when I turned into that game. He's got to be a
tiny little man inside a muscle suit because those muscles are doing nothing. He gets hit
nothing so hard on every play. It's like a train wreck. I mean, it is, it is wild. I don't
understand it. If you see a player on Tampa, get blown up, I promise you it was K. It's not
somebody else. It's not somebody else.
It was crazy. So
there you go. And Theo
Johnson. I brought him up. He deserves
a shout out. I think he is
just, you know, as long as Jackson
Dart is available, he has his guys.
And Theo's one of them. And so
10 plus points in four of six games.
I'll take that at tight-in.
I think that's probably
the last tight-in we need to talk about, though.
Yeah, that's fun. You guys want to talk
some duds? Yep.
in his big boy pants.
There were some big names that weren't winning you the week.
I mean, Lamar, Herbert, and Nicks are the big three at quarterback that you probably
counted on this week and didn't get you fantasy production to the degree that helped you.
Yeah.
And Josh Allen as well for about 90% of the game.
The Josh Allen game was so egregiously offensive to me because I knew in my head.
knew what was going to happen.
Yeah.
They're getting destroyed.
I mean, the dolphins...
They got destroyed.
Yeah, the dolphins played great.
This is why we keep bringing up.
They play hard for Mike McDaniel still.
I don't...
That's why firing him seems weird because they've been in so many games, so many close games.
They dominate Buffalo.
He has a fumble.
He has an interception.
He's got four fantasy points somewhere in the third quarter.
And I 100% knew facing him that I was going to end up with like 30 against me.
And sure enough.
I mean, yeah, because Jackson Hawkins...
has to catch a 26-yard garbage touchdown at the end of the game. Nice.
So I guess he was fine. But Bo Nix, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, you know,
Lamar, you're the most confident in the rest of season, probably Herbert behind him and the
Knicks third on that list. When you start Bo Nix, you might win, but you might owe a loss to
Bo Nix. I mean, that's how it feels right now. He should go back to targeting Cortland's
sudden. Like, I know I love Troy Franklin, and he's great. But it's not,
like he he has become the number one wide receiver for sure in the target count over the last month
and it's not helping you, Bo.
This is the first time I, this last week where I'm like, you know what?
The biggest problem on Denver right now is Bo Nix.
Yeah.
That's the actual biggest problem with the team.
Their defense is a dominating defense.
They have great running backs.
We'll see if Dobbins is hurt.
They've got a wide receiver core that's good enough to get it done.
They've got a tight end that's, you know, good enough to get it done.
And then Bo Nix is sitting there holding the offense back.
Mm-hmm.
just makes me like there was a point in this season you're like bow nix is the 20 year
starter for Denver but at this point if you have a couple more duds like this it's concerning
it's funny too because i mean they they won the game you know and they they win they keep
winning almost all their games but 10 9 11 10 you're not 12 10 you're not going to be able to
win with 10 points every week not in the playoffs no not against kansas city this week yeah
we'll uh we'll take a break we'll talk about the running backs
All right, we had some running backs let us down, including James Cook,
who had such a monster game last week, and, well, it didn't go the way Buffalo planned at all in this one.
No, they were living in the upside down.
I mean, Miami just dominated Buffalo, which hasn't happened in forever.
The NFL is awesome because that can happen.
If it all just went according to the script, it'd be really competitive.
for the fantasy football prognostication,
but it wouldn't be a very entertaining
product. The fact that Miami can go
out and just mop the floor with Buffalo
in a game like that.
Derek Henry, 20 for 75.
You can live with that. Quinchon Judkins,
22 for 75.
Henry, what you cannot live with is
the play
action touchdowns at the goal
line this year seem excessive.
I'm not saying,
I'm not getting mad.
Justice Hill goal line touchdown.
Yeah.
That seems offensive.
It's strange.
But Judkins and Henry, I'm not really, I don't think they really belong here.
20 plus carries, 70 plus yards, you're fine.
For what the game was, Derek Henry should have had a lot more points.
Ken Walker, you just live here.
I mean, Ken Walker.
It really was the Madden game that we joked about.
Yes.
He's playing so efficient.
I'm sure he was well over four yards of carry.
he was running great and then they get to the goal line
and it's like, Charbs, you're up.
No, not just Charbs.
Oh, yeah.
What's other guys?
He'llani.
Yeah.
Who got one carry in the first half.
Yeah, he looked good.
One carry in the first,
hold on, let me just double check.
Yeah, one carry in the first quarter and then he cleaned up in the fourth.
I mean, they got to the 10.
They're like, Halani, get in there, brother.
Five straight weeks without double-digit fantasy points for Ken Walker.
It hasn't been in the top 24 since week four.
It really seemed coming into the season
like his only worry was injury
and that if he were to play, he'd be good.
He's a Triforce candidate for this week.
Okay.
Against the Rams?
Well, he's not going to do well without the Triforce.
That's true.
He's not going to do well by himself.
He's also not going to have the Triforce this week.
No, he ain't.
Save it for Week 12, guys.
Yeah, you can do a dual force if you guys want to go in on it.
No.
Dual force has no power.
Week 12, Tennessee.
Yeah.
Yeah, we can think about it.
All right.
We can think about it.
He may be hurt by then.
The thing about the, I mean, the TriForce of power, now that we know what it's capable of,
we have to.
We'd be very careful.
We have to be responsible with it.
Yes.
Yeah, that's, you don't want to just throw that around Willie.
No.
Terrible things are going to happen.
No, no, but it was powerful.
We talked about the Minnesota wide receivers, Jefferson, Addison.
Tons of targets, not a lot of production.
Correct.
Michael Pittman.
This was crazy.
This game was, I mean, they scored a lot of points.
John the Taylor did a lot of the work
I was surprised they didn't turn to Pittman early
or when this game kind of when they got behind
in this game I was still surprised that
but Tyler Warren became that guy
he was the first down machine
sometimes it's Pittman sometimes is Warren
Pierce is just running around down the field
Josh Downs did nothing
returned to punt um
they're going into by aren't they
are they going into buy?
Colts?
Colts. Let's double check it.
Oh, you're not going to have anything from John
the Taylor next week.
Man that sucks.
What are you going to do?
And then the run.
runs. Then the run happens. Kansas City and Houston.
The tougher defenses?
Yeah, it just takes one play.
I will not doubt.
D.K. Metcrap.
Dude. He's averaged 37 receiving yards of the game over the last month.
Well, he's paid to average a lot more than that.
I mean, that is, that sucks.
Like, that sucks.
They traded, like, some, some capital to go get him.
they gave him a huge contract.
They trade George Pickens away for, I believe, less than they traded, less than they paid for D.K. Metcalf.
How's George Pickens feeling about this right now?
Here's what some might say.
I will be other people.
I'll be the voice of public opinion.
Okay.
But.
Yeah.
But guys.
Yeah.
He sucks in football.
D.K. McHaff?
Yeah.
I mean, I think that's an opinion.
The opinion is he's not, he wasn't worthy of the.
trade. He wasn't worthy of the
opportunity and he can't do
enough. Yes. I am the voice of
public opinion.
He's not bad.
I just never thought he was
an elite wide receiver. Good athlete,
good football player, but this is
crazy
pants what's going on here. We basically
the math equation for D.K. McHath
now is if you
are lucky enough to get a touchdown
because he's enormous,
you will be happy. If he does,
If he doesn't, you will be miserable.
He is like $150 million
contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Dude, eat some
like protein.
Don't just eat candy.
You want to be great?
He does not.
He wants to,
he's already paid well.
And he already looks like that.
Yeah.
If I could eat candy and look like that.
We would all eat candy.
You're not getting me to eat protein.
No.
Unless it's like protein candy.
Protein candy.
Imagine those farts.
DJ Moore, no points.
that's cool because he scored like a million for Al Borland against me last week
yeah the uh no no points uh Brian Ketron world's biggest loser and I managed a team
where we had Jonathan Taylor guys in the morning did you lose and we had Garrett Wilson
and DJ Moore oh yeah is that a double double goose that's double goose that you want to
know how how you mitigate a 50 point game from a running back zeros from two of your other
players. Did you end up losing? We are going to
lose. Wow. It's funny because I see
Pittman. You did it. Yeah. I see Michael
Pittman in the, the Dudd section, but
when I look at my roster, Michael
Pittman and John and Taylor combined
for 52 points. So it's like
that's pretty good.
Yeah, you would have been really happy with the 25,
25. Sure. Who cares how it breaks down.
Cortland Sutton, we
talked about him Thursday night football three for 24.
You're going to get shaky
knees starting them right now with Bo Nix's
performance, especially against Kansas City.
Kansas City in a by week after that, I feel like right now the decision is probably going to be,
you're not going to be starting Sutton for two weeks.
That's wild.
Bowers, we talked about it.
It was a bummer.
One for 31.
Hunter Henry, Mason Taylor, T.J. Hawkinson, Kyle Pitts.
Meow.
Yeah.
This is the meow list right there.
He had infinitely more catches than Garrett Wilson.
I'm talking about all three of those guys.
Yeah, Kyle Pitts, two for 38.
Not good.
Come on, dude.
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Before we close the show out, because we got waivers
tomorrow, we got a little time here at the end.
I feel like this is your opportunity to go on a
rant. Me?
For what is happening in our dynasty league.
Oh, goodness. Because what is happening
in this? Now, let me say this. We've played fantasy
20 seasons. Brooks is not going to
like it. 20 seasons, multiple
leagues. Every league we're
in our main leagues, there are
divisions. I'll set the stage
then I'll let you rant. Okay. There are divisions.
And the division, you don't have to
just get that out of the way. You will get
your opportunity. Divisions have been great
in my opinion. Because
it's built rivalries and we've had head-to-head.
Jason and I were arch rivals for ten years.
We got to play twice a year.
It was fun. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This year something's happened
in our Dynasty League. That is truly
a war crime.
I mean, we are at a point where I can't defend divisions.
The Geneva Convention has been.
I cannot defend divisions with what is happening right now.
We have Papa Josh back there in Ducer's Alley, which I'll throw their camera on there.
Papa Josh and the Falcons and the Falcon have an outstanding fantasy team.
They've suffered some injuries.
What are they?
13 and 7?
They will be.
Yeah, we will be after this week.
13 and 7 and immediately.
And over here in my hapless division where I am tanking my dynasty team and everybody in that,
division is dead there is a division leader and his name is brooks and he's headed to the
playoffs i mean he's guaranteed to make the playoffs he's headed to the playoffs what's his record
he's going to be six and 14 at the end of this week six and 14 we it was he is yeah so
the funny timing of this is we were asked on this week's footcast you're like hey if
there's something that you could just come in be like this is a rule change because
because I said so.
And Jason brought up, I would get rid of divisions.
And I was, I was on his side.
Andy was still like, I, you were, you were, you understood the, the, the things I like
about divisions.
And there, not this.
There definitely can be, but there, there will be a team in, and with a record of 12 and
eight, currently not in the playoffs because of a six and 14 team.
This is the dragon meme for that.
Yes.
there's one of the dragons and it's Brooks
with his tongue hanging out
oh my gosh and it's like
I saw this morning at 6 and 14 versus a 13 and 17
and the 6 and 14 is going to make it
and it was the first time I've ever thought we have to change this right now
we have to fix it right and we can't
we can't fix it right now but it's so wrong
Brooks better do something because there is a team
that will be 5 and 15 right behind him
that team could
also get into the playoffs. My rebuilding
team will be 2 and 18 this week. Yeah, you're not
out of it. I'm not out. At 2 and 18,
I might need to trade up. In that division.
We got a trade deadline. I can go
get one player.
What dude? Just get one player. You'll be
fine. Amari DiMarcato might
win me this thing. Oh,
oh my gosh. I had to bring it up.
It was, yeah, it was crazy.
Divisions can bring some very fun things,
but this is just... Papa Josh,
you're going to be happy when you missed the playoffs in this league?
Dude, I might quit.
Do you remember you were talking a big game, too, before the season?
Bro, our team is great.
I don't know about that.
I mean, you're fourth place in the division.
You're back behind Brooks.
All righty, well, there you go.
That'll do it for today's show.
Welcome back to Al Borland over there, Indusers Alley.
Thank you, sir.
Good to be back.
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