Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 11 Matchups + Bringing the Hammer, Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/15

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Week 11 is underway! On today’s fantasy football podcast, a Thursday Night Football recap, and more matchup breakdowns! Get advice for tough Week 11 fantasy football start/sit decisions! And don’t... miss Mike spinning the Wheel of Shame! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 15th, 2024. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Oh welcome in happy Friday everybody the fantasy footballers podcast Mike the fantasy hitman Jason Moore Andy Holloway got a great show for you today it's great top notch what were that originated top notch yeah like what makes that notch well it was on the top of the notches I mean if you if you take it now I don't want to go all
Starting point is 00:01:02 spitballers here oh but I'm just saying if there's notches, the one on the top is clearly the best one. Because of height? Yes. Isn't it the heightest? Yes, well it is. I guess you and I are better than Jason. Yeah, I mean we can check in with the Short Kings of the Douchers Alley and ask them, you know, shout out Short Kings! You ever been able to reach the top shelf or the top notch? No, I'll answer it for you. Middle notch, middle notch, deuce or sally. These are real middle notch guys. Yeah. Anyways, good morning everybody. How you doing over there, Papa Josh? I'm doing great. Are you the tallest of the three? I am, that's why I was pointing above these guys. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Supreme dominance at five six. He can jump up and like... Also the fastest. He can jump up and like also the fastest Dad actually it has been proven. Yeah, there was no it has there was a race Jeremy spent proving that he's faster than Matt. Okay, so we're setting up a race now. No, he doesn't want to To run He talks a big game. Yeah, are we setting up a race? No, I love it. It has not been proven It has Josh, but that's called a forfeit. So I'm so Happy to be with everybody today Unfortunately Mike
Starting point is 00:02:13 Mm-hmm Sorry everybody perfectly nailed what we watched last night on Thursday night football minus two plays Hey, yeah, if you be grateful that we got some, well we got Saquon Barkley and then we got absolute, the stinkiest doodoo garbage I know it's within two scores yada yada. But the Jayden Daniels to Zacherts touchdown and then I mean the two-point conversion was awesome. This happened for one reason I mean Jayden Daniels was he had he was down at seven points, had thrown a pick. It was not looking good. The team inexplicably went forward on fourth down when they could have kicked the field goal to take the lead.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Oh, that was so stupid. It was the dumbest, it's the single dumbest thing I've seen in the NFL this year because it was an opportunity to take the lead with just four minutes left. It was an easily makeable field goal, and you had just been stuffed twice on second and third down. I can't believe they did it. It changed the entire game. It wasn't one of those situations where there was like, you know, a minute left. So that if they, you know, if they pick it up, they can run the clock out and kick a field goal with four seconds left. That wasn't the situation. It made no sense.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I don't know, man. It was just weird. You got to take in the lead. We're all Mr. Go-For-It on four. I'm not as aggressive as it gets, but you take the lead. Oh, you're in on that. Oh, yes. You take the lead with four minutes left or at least... Remember how they moved the entirety
Starting point is 00:03:43 of the field with passing? And they couldn't be stopped on that drive and then they're like, you know what we're going to do? Run, run, run. We're going to go high T right here. And it didn't work. Yeah, it was a little reminiscent of the former Cardinal Cliff days at times. Right up the middle. Yeah. But what I was getting to is that Jason was just openly mocking
Starting point is 00:04:08 Mr.. Jeremy over there Al Borland our main two leagues the League of Record and our main dynasty league Jeremy and I are facing each other and in both of those he has jayden daniel So I'm playing against jayden daniel's like both of them in both. Yeah, I didn't realize he had him in I am Loving life because the game is over and Jayden's got seven points. I'm like, heck yeah. And then garbage time. Garbage time. Goes down the field. Garbage time and that- Terrible time management again. The touchdown to Zach Gertz, which, I mean, what an incredible catch. But this is how
Starting point is 00:04:40 garbage it was. When it was called on the field, not a touchdown, no one cared. Oh, you're talking about the two-point conversion. Was that not a touchdown. No one's talking about the two-point conversion Was that the two-point? It was like it was like, you know, it's just one of those things where it didn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter The game's over doesn't oh, oh we got that. Yeah neat Yeah, I mean at least that gave him a shot at the the onside kick, but and Bryan Robinson scored So yeah, I if you took the gamble on it, it paid off. I was talking to Al yesterday, hopefully he doesn't mind me sharing this, but he said
Starting point is 00:05:10 he's got Jaden Daniels in both leagues and he's just like, man, I am the most stressed out I've been in fantasy. And I couldn't help but think of that quote when Jaden Daniels was struggling last night because this was one of the ones that on paper was scary. If you're a Jaden Daniels manager, you kind of knew this was one of the ones that like, on paper was scary. If you're a Jadon Daniels manager, you kind of knew in the back of your head that maybe Goff or Nix or Herbert would be a better play this week,
Starting point is 00:05:34 but how do you sit down that guy that, you know, you just hope he gets enough on the ground. It was a really boring game. If you were a Saquon manager, you were sad, and then you were so, I mean, you weren't sad. Yeah, you were. Yeah, you were sad. You were, because he was bottled up for.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah, it was 76 yards, no touchdowns. Yeah, you were pretty disappointed with the performance. It really seemed like the commander's defense had Saquon's number, and they did for the majority of the game, until they didn't. Two touchdowns in 20 seconds for Saquon Barkley. Well, they needed Ken Gainwell to go in and tenderize the meat.
Starting point is 00:06:11 That was a wild run there, where Gainwell's getting just absolutely gouging the defense. And then they were like, hey, Barkley, you take over from here. Didn't we bring up Gainwell as like, because we talked Coram, and we talked Trey Benson, and we talked these other insurance backs, and we're like, why is Gainwell not being brought up where if something happened to Saquon,
Starting point is 00:06:27 which has happened for years, why wouldn't Gainwell be one of those priority ads? Oh, he would. He just is not as top tier. Right. Like the, he'll give you what? 65% of Saquon? Yeah, I mean, we've seen him in a couple opportunities
Starting point is 00:06:45 to have that role, and he just hasn't had massive performances. And I also think some of the reason that he isn't given enough credit as that insurance back is because they drafted Will Shipley, and everyone loves a rookie. Yeah, they do. That's why Blake Corham gets mentioned in that group. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It's awesome to see Saquon have a career year with the opportunity he's had. I mean, the 100 yard games with this offensive line and this offensive system, he has been rejuvenated. Also, I think this off season, just to quickly give one kind of takeaway, it's that there's a massive difference. We're like, oh, Deandre Swift is successful in Philly.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Okay, he's not Saquon. Oh my gosh, Devin Singletary had some success in Houston. Oh, he's not Joe Mixon. Like, the big backs. Yeah, oh, Gus Edwards had some touchdowns last year for the Ravens. Oh, he's not King Henry. Yeah, and who's winning?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Turns out running backs matter. They really. The old ones. Like, this is The great ones. It's the... It's the greats. It is, but I'm saying it's the upside down nature of this fantasy football season of the wide receivers are killing people. If you drafted running backs early it's working out and if you drafted... And they're staying healthy. The old guys. That's what I'm saying. They're all healthy. We have nothing to say on
Starting point is 00:08:02 Waiver Day for running backs because James Connor's healthy and these guys are staying on the field. The best part is that this isn't a fantasy football take. This is an NFL take. The teams that spent big money on Brandon Iyuk and franchise T Higgins or the teams that invested and spent the money on the big running backs this off season, they're the ones winning. And I'm so happy because I don't enjoy
Starting point is 00:08:30 the part of the off season where we were trending towards running backs can't get contracts and it's all committees and rookies. Like, let's bring balance to the force here. Maybe this year we'll incentivize some teams to spend up on players. You just talked about, was it yesterday, Connor might get an extension from Arizona? I mean I am projecting that. Haven't heard nothing but just it would be not surprising.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Fine wine running backs. Yeah. Better and better. It will definitely keep working. It's a horrible, it was a horrible night for Terry McLaurin. It's worth mentioning that Philadelphia right now, number one wide receivers are getting shut down against Philadelphia. And so it's not just Terry McLaurin. Like you're talking about, you know, a number of top backs. I was trying to pull up, I had a chart earlier
Starting point is 00:09:24 of all of the shutdown guys. Well while you look at that, just a reminder that the Washington commanders play Philadelphia in week 16. Ooh, okay. Yeah, Kenyon. At least put that on your radar. Kenyon Mitchell, right? Here's who he's gone up against.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So McLaurin last night had no catches on him. He had one catch in the game, none on Mitchell. Lamb, one catch. Chase, two catches. Neighbors, one catch. Cooper, one catch. Evans, two catches. Olave, two catches.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Maximum yardage in that group, 23. So it's something to keep. And Drake London, one catch, five yards. So. What a good draft. What a good draft. What a good draft this year for the Eagles. Yeah, the good teams seem to do that. All right, we've got a lot to get to today.
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Starting point is 00:10:56 News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. There's an expectation for Tank Bigsby to return to practice to just further confirm the fact that Jason will not start Travis ETN even in a Pop Warner league. Yeah he did not he didn't practice yet this week the expectation is he has a chance to play so I feel like I'm hoping he plays so that nobody's too tempted. And Brian Thomas Jr. is still limited with the chest injury.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I mean, this is lining up really well for the Detroit defense. Sam Laporta still sidelined on Thursday. I felt like the comments from Dan Campbell and the news report on La Porta really put him more into the week to week category for me personally. So him being sidelined two days in a row, it is concerning. Aaron Jones still limited. We expect him to play. He says he's going to be good. Nigel Harris returned to a full practice, getting ready for that big matchup this weekend. Jalen Warren. Oh, gosh, I didn't see that. Added to the injury report with a back issue.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And did not practice. Didn't practice. Well, that was a real flip-flop there. I feel like we are going to just spend this whole year waiting for Warren to have one good game and it's never going to happen. I haven't been waiting the whole season. I've just been out. No, you've been saying, why didn't we talk about him?
Starting point is 00:12:23 He was running back 23 last week. He was. And just so that I'm clear, you're saying he's running back 23 last week. That's a good thing. That's not like, oh, he was down at running back 23. It's meaningful enough to bring up on waiver wire, is what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But that was his best performance of the year, right? Running back 23? Hold on. Hold on. Jason is so against Jalen. You're dunking on the running back 23 on the week. Yes. Which is probably what...
Starting point is 00:12:49 So you have just... How many bi-weeks were there? Oh, that doesn't matter. Well, yeah. I'm just saying... No, no. This is between you two. He got up to running back 23 in a week with a bunch of bi-weeks.
Starting point is 00:13:03 But that is his pinnacle this year. Did he get 10 fantasy points? No, he did not. Okay, that's what I've been saying all year. He hasn't yet got 10 fantasy points, still didn't get it. So Jason Moore, only top 15 running backs for Jason Moore. If he was running back 45,
Starting point is 00:13:20 and he scored 15 fantasy points, I'd be happy. Okay. Do you wanna hear something fun? Yeah. Guess who the running back 23 is this year in points per game. Oh gosh, is it Breeze Hall? It's Breeze Hall, baby!
Starting point is 00:13:30 I feel that in my soul. Oh, I'm on the same side with Breeze. I'm so sick of him. All right, well just know, with my memory, the next time you ever say this guy was a top 24 running back, the hammer's coming. You're a dead man. Bring it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I will say, what poor analysis. And then you know what I'll follow that up with? As I'll say, well, he scored 10 fancy points that week, which is totally OK. Tyree Kell upgraded to a limited practice on Thursday after missing Wednesday. He's putting off surgery until after the season. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah, that was this morning. I mean, I guess that's good news in the sense that I've kind of been afraid that one week the shoe's gonna drop and he's like, ah, I can't do this anymore. It might. Like, I wouldn't, the fact that they're like, y'all, this has to be repaired. It's not great.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Devontae Adams did not practice Wednesday or Thursday wrist slash illness. Getting, getting back to Tyree kill real quick. If this is a player who has to get surgery, at what point do you shut him down? That's what I mean. Because this is a team that what do they have three? Three wins? Four wins? Three. They have three wins. If they rattle off two more losses, you know, and they're- Can you rattle off losses? I thought you could only rattle off wins. Is that true? I don't know. I mean, I'm here to learn. I wouldn't be rattling them off if I was losing. What is the opposite of rattling? I don't know. This is not, we can't do this.
Starting point is 00:15:03 But you know, I mean, obviously they've got the Raiders and the Patriots the next two weeks. That's a great sign for Tyreko. I just wonder when they're out of the playoffs and it's like, yeah, we're mathematically eliminated. Week 16, week 17, maybe championship week for fantasy. I felt like that was true before he said he's going to put it off until after the season.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But my point is after the season might begin during the season for a player that's... Do you know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying but for him to come out and say I'm not gonna do that I feel like also matters which he's coming out and saying I'm not gonna do that. We're just saying... That's his public pronouncement is I'm not gonna do that. He's gonna wait until this season is over that's what I'm what I say for him if he stops playing football He would get the surgery during the season Not for him because the season would be over. Yeah, his season will be over. Oh, it's not his season. It's the season What are we even talking about?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Also people get it. Also the AFC East is up to their old tricks. I Don't know like I am unaware Just of the bills are eight and two and then every other team in the division has three wins. Like back when the Patriots were dominant, it was just... They were dominant, but no one else in the division could compete. Yesterday, Jason said, buy low on Tyreek Hill. I just want that to be brought up. Darnell Mooney was added to the injury report on Thursday with an Achilles injury. George Kittle upgraded to a limited practice. That's good news with the hamstring. Dalton Kincaid still not practicing almost assuredly out.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Amari Cooper, this is not good. I mean it's good but not good. He says he thinks he can play but he's gonna have to wear a cast. And the wrist injuries, I mean we need a wrist index soon. The way that the wrist injuries are going. It really has been crazy and it's all wide receivers. You know it's it's You you had Keon Coleman his teammate Cooper obviously Tyreek. It's it's a weird Adams this week. Yeah, it's a weird wrist year Harrison butgers gonna miss the next four ish weeks with a meniscus surgery repair, T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah, this one is fun. He was limited. However, this is a shout out to Andrew Cooper. I retweeted it. If you've not seen it, Andrew Cooper does some fantasy analysis. And he came with receipts of the way that T. Higgins runs up the hill. We've
Starting point is 00:17:25 all seen the practice videos of like when they're entering there there's this the hill over to their right and the way that T Higgins has taken the hill during practice has been a like a tell of if he is gonna play and this so this is a big week for it of he's saying Higgins is running up the hill aggressively aggressively the way that he has done when he actually is gonna play so that will be this is a very Vermont snow it is actually makes a little bit more how dare you my problem with the hill narrative was that we had a very small sample size of videos I needed to see years of videos of him on this hill,
Starting point is 00:18:08 not just three or four. You wanna see him when he's in the middle of a healthy stretch. Yes. Walking slowly up the hill to debunk the hill man. Or he always runs up the hill, and then I believe the hill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Hey, this week will be a big one. Cause he ran. And I think it was like rainy. So you're thinking he's in. Oh, I know he's in. His quad, his quad, if it's hurting, doesn't take the hill the way he took the hill. That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You know what I mean? OK. This has been quite the episode. All right, that was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. We'll take a break. We'll hit the forecast. ["Fantasy Forecast Theme"]
Starting point is 00:18:48 ["Fantasy Forecast Theme"] It's time for Fantasy Forecast, presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. You like how I hit that drop? I was very impressed. It was right away, no hesitation. Sometimes I like to have a brief conversation in between our break and the next segment
Starting point is 00:19:12 and then that causes me to forget. I was going to say that T. Higgins is the Sunday night game. Congratulations everybody. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry, you ran up the hill. I think we will know. The worst thing that could happen according to Jason is if he ended up as the wide receiver
Starting point is 00:19:29 23 this week. Oh no. What a terrible thing. If he doesn't score 10 fantasy points. That's the barometer for a bad half PPR game. But it's all relative. If he scores, if you're wide receiver 23 with eight points that means everybody else stunk. Counterpoint. Mike, with the slap across your face.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You're the Jake Paul. He's the Mike Tyson. Fantastic. I'm the old one. Fantastic. Yeah, but you're the one we're rooting for. Oh, OK. That's true.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Everyone's rooting for Mike. Yeah. You saw the slap this morning? I did. And you know why? Because he stepped on Tyson's foot. He did. Ooh, very disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And his white shoes. Yeah, you can't do that to people in white shoes. Don't scuff the shoes. Never. I'll slap you. Green Bay, Chicago, Jacksonville, Detroit, Minnesota, Tennessee, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Miami, the Rams, and New England, and Cleveland, New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:20:22 We covered all of those on yesterday's episode. Today the Colts at four and six going back to Anthony Richardson taking on the Jets in New York. The Jets three and seven the DraftKings Sportsbook line New York minus four. The over-under is 43 and a half. I like New York in this game. Both of these teams have been really in the blender when it comes to the coaches, the coaching staff, the decisions, the quarterback tumult, low expectations that have been lowered. What is your initial impression on this game?
Starting point is 00:21:02 I mean, the big news that we talked about this week was that Anthony Richardson is installed as the quarterback. We're going to see what he learned on his quick little hiatus as a backup quarterback, if anything. You know, when it comes to like, you like the Jets in this game, I get that. They're at home. They're a very good passing defense over the course of the season, last week not withstanding. And then you've got basically a rookie in Anthony Richardson coming in who has looked good and bad in different matchups. But I do caution a little bit of swinging the pendulum to far where we go.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Anthony Richardson has been bad, has thrown thrown picks and that was a good defense so therefore it's just going to be a massacre. Anthony Richardson also has big explosive upside plays down the field to Adonai Mitchell who's getting more work. I would not be surprised here. I don't think it is a guarantee that Anthony Richardson comes out and has an awful game and is demoralized by the Jets defense that looked so bad last week. Yeah, I mean it's never a guarantee in fantasy football, but I buy all of that. I buy the whole narrative. I think he'll be pretty bad. I mean let's go back in time. I mean we have single-digit fantasy performances in 4 or 5. 11.5 was the peak in the last five starts. I don't have high expectations. There's
Starting point is 00:22:25 no guarantee that he doesn't hit on a big play, but I would not be expecting or starting personally Anthony Richardson. His passing yard line is 177 yards. The take that I was talking about was really more about the Jets defense. Yeah, they the crumbling. The DST seems like one that you definitely, you just gotta have and that is what I'm more concerned on. You know, I also buy what you're saying in the sense that I don't want to start Josh Downs. I don't want to start Adonai Mitchell or Alec Pierce if if Pittman is active. I don't want to start any of them. I'm fine with Downs in the flex, even with Richardson,
Starting point is 00:23:05 because I think he's good for five catches and he's a good player. Same game. Like I'd play him over Bateman for what it's worth. Sure, if you're going that way. So what about Devontae Adams? Oh, Adams, Adams I'll play, yeah. His targets have been out of control.
Starting point is 00:23:22 They have. And I expect after the bye week at home with Rogers It'll be a little bit better. Well the bye week is next week Well, but will they Before the bye week, they're still at home after the bye week So he why does it feel like they haven't played in Ohio because they didn't play last week against the Cardinals Oh, they didn't they. They took an early bye.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I just feel like, yeah, I'd play Adams. OK. Regardless of when the bye is. Just saying, of the, Devante Adams has been inside the top 38 at wide receiver just two times. Are you saying you'd play Downs over Adams? No, I'm not saying that. Just of the, like, where, I was testing where you are with Josh Downs.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Um yeah 13 targets 11 targets for Adams last couple weeks you obviously hope that Rogers and Wilson and Adams can kind of you know being at home in this game not a defense that's scary in Indianapolis. I'm playing all the Jets. So Hall, Roger, is Rogers? He's streamed up, like I would play Rogers over Richardson. Yeah, me too. But I would play, I'd play Travis Etienne over Richardson. That's where I'm at, Jay. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah, Jonathan Taylor, Breece Hall, both look like good plays here. Breece Hall, wow, I'm surprised. Minus 160 on DK to get a touchdown. That says that he's got very good odds to score this week and it makes sense. You're at home, you're favored by four, and you're against a weak run defense.
Starting point is 00:24:57 But he can let you down, man. Breece Hall can let you down. You're feeling the burn, but Hall should be fine. Your Jets should be fine, they should win this game. I agree, and on the cold side, Michael Pittman was a full practice on Wednesday and Thursday, which he's generally been taking Wednesday off, so this is- Goodbye, Adonai Mitchell, goodbye Alec Pierce. Yeah, that's the point is Adonai becomes a far sketchier start.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Alec Pierce remains, like, he's just, Alec Pearce is who he is. I think regardless of Pittman or Adonai, it's a pray for the one to play. Jonathan Taylor splits with or without A-Rich, basically the same. You can play him against the Jets defense that, you know, let Amari DiMarcato run 50 something yards
Starting point is 00:25:46 at the end of the half and, oh wait, that was the- No, that was the Bears. That was the Bears. He let James Connor run wild against them. And Benson. The Falcons at six and four take on the five and five, Denver Broncos, the DraftKings sportsbook line here, Denver minus two at home, over-under's 44.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Both teams in the playoffs as of right now. Wild, I think both teams deserve to be in the playoffs. The Denver Broncos have looked awesome. They basically beat the Chiefs until the field goal was blocked at the end. That still blows my mind. Basically was Well, it's one of those, if you missed it, it was they're running the clock out to kick the field goal. Because they're close enough where it's a gimme, they're just trying to get the clock to four seconds, the game is over, they're going to win.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Wow, how'd they do that? And then the field goal was blocked. Yeah, it was a dog fight game, 14 to 16. That's how Denver wins right now. Bo Nix, your stream of the week, Jason. he's been a quarterback one and four of six starts I like Russell Wilson more than Bo Nix this week that's one of the biggest questions on our start sit tool it's so funny considering that they let Russell Wilson go to essentially get Bo Nix but yeah I agree I think Russell Wilson is a better start
Starting point is 00:27:04 this week even though I like Bo Nix this week yeah, I agree. I think Russell Wilson is a better start this week, even though I like Bo Nicks this week. Saw Javante Williams hit waiver wires in all my leagues this week. Audrick Estimé, Mike, are you willing to start him in this game against the Falcons run defense, which is top half? I am.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I mean, I'm not expecting big things, but he has. What would you estimate he would be able to nice put up? I mean, I think he can get to Jason's threshold of ten points I think he can get there. I think the only way he can get to ten points is a touchdown So this is a guy who's constantly referred to as the first and second down back I don't think he's gonna get pass catching work He won't and so against the top, rush defense for a team that, you know, they're usually a little bit more slog and dog,
Starting point is 00:27:48 they're defense, you know, they're not, I don't know. I just roll with it. That's new, that's new. You want it fresh and new. I liked it. You said. It felt good. Slog and dog.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So they're, you know, they're a slog and dog team. So that means they're playing defense. I'm not loving us to me here as a star. He's certainly a great pick up. It's means they're playing defense. I'm not loving Estime here as a starter. He's certainly a great pick up. It's like Brian Robinson last night. Sure, yeah. I expect Estime will get double digit carries, probably be in that 60 to 70 rushing yards area.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And then you're, I mean like. Algier or Estime? I'd go Estime. OK. Yeah, I would as well. The Broncos defense has just been outstanding. I think they're, especially the pass game, I worry a little bit about Drake London
Starting point is 00:28:30 on the other side of the ball. Usually when I see like the, you've got a Sauce Gardner or a Patrick Sertan or you know, Ligeria Snead, you've got one of these guys that's like taking out the one, you look for the two in those games a lot of times. Pretty sad that right now Mooney looks a little banged up with an Achilles, a limited participant on Thursday,
Starting point is 00:28:53 because I might be excited for him to be really necessary in this game. Yeah, and you gotta remember the Broncos defense number one in the NFL against wide receivers. You can look at last six weeks where it softened a bit, but they missed Sertan for two of those weeks. The default defense for the Broncos, very good against the pass, a good defense in general.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You're gonna look at to be, John, to kind of be your table setter for this offense in this game, and it's not surprising to me that the Broncos are favored at home. It should be a good game. Kyle Pitts? Yeah, Kyle Pitts or one of the waiver type guys. Like John-u.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I would stick with Pitts. It would be Pitts, I mean I'd stick with Pitts. Okay, and if we somehow get information that the T. Higgins Hill narrative is incorrect this week, would you go back to Sticky Gassicki or would you play Kyle Pitts? I would go with Gassicki. I think that, I know it didn't come through
Starting point is 00:29:53 for a big performance last week, but his snaps, his routes, even his targets, they were all there, just wasn't down the field stuff as much as you wanted and he didn't get a touchdown, but the opportunity is certainly there T Higgins is not going through the team stretch this morning But is in uniform and has a helmet as he works on the side. Do we know about this morning's hill? We do not know hard. It was asking but we don't we don't have information yet. Let's dig man
Starting point is 00:30:18 Cortland Sutton is the wide receiver seven since week six. Would you play him? In this matchup over both of the Falcons? Oh man, that's, it's funny because I, yeah I agree, I mean you talk down Drake London because of the matchup, but London has been, I mean London's been great. Well you did, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Well I think many people can. But London is the wide receiver five on the season. London's been great. Well you did, but yeah. Well I think many people can. But London is the wide receiver five on the season. So I don't think you can sit London, you just have to hold your breath. That one is so tough. Because you have the production from Drake London, but you know, when guys are in these matchups,
Starting point is 00:31:02 you know that they're going to let you down. It's the exact Jayden Daniels or a pivot choice. Yes, that's what I mean. Do you stick with the guy that has gotten you there, where Drake London has been very good, but probably needs a touchdown in this game to salvage the day for you. You know, Sutton and London are very close in my rankings. I would, I'll do it for the team.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I would play Corbin Sutton. I think so. I think so. That's a really tough call, but I think it's the right way. I think that, I'm with you. I can see it. The Seattle Seahawks at four and five the
Starting point is 00:31:49 49ers at five and four the DraftKings Sportsbook Alliance San Francisco at home minus six and a half the over-under is 48 Seattle is They've really kind of Been on a fall. Yeah, they've fallen apart. I mean they're rattling off their losses Yeah one in five one and five in their last six games After starting the year with three straight wins over not good teams a rookie quarterback jacoby brissette and then not to a so Seattle might have been one of the pumpkin teams of the year. It's
Starting point is 00:32:27 concerning a little bit on in terms of just you know their defense is very problematic. It could hurt Kenneth Walker's opportunities to run the football as the game goes on. I'm not saying you're benching him I'm just saying. But he's catching passes. The last time they played San Francisco, eight catches for Ken Bone. Seattle is actually, if you're not a Seahawks fan, they're fantastic. This is what we want.
Starting point is 00:32:55 We want a team that can be a really high powered offense. We like pretty much everyone in this offense. And I know that their defense is going to give up a bunch of points. Yeah, they're falling apart. They started the season looking really good. Their defense was tough. They had some easier matchups, but they are really falling apart. I don't know the situation and the details, but four days ago they... you guys know they cut, they straight up cut their leading tackler on defense. The guy with the most tackles on their defense, they just cut him. And I don't know any of the details there.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I don't know why. He was too productive. He was like, you know. We're trying to get fantasy points here. So it's great for fantasy, but a wild storyline. And DK Metcalf is back. Like, he's practicing in full. That's a really big deal for the offense.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah, I mean, on the course of the season, the 49ers have been very difficult to throw on, but DK Metcalf, you know, he's got experience against San Francisco being a divisional opponent. I think DK is actually a pretty good play this week. The, oh man, that was the 11 target game where he only had three catches for 48, where it was like he just kept missing.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Well, didn't he have a touchdown call back in that one too? That one I don't remember. I remember so many. Okay, but just so many near catches. 11 targets turning into three for DK Metcalf is weird. The biggest question on Seattle is, is JSN, do you chase after the potential break-it? Like, was that a breakout performance? Seven for 180 and two.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You've been happy twice in nine weeks for what it's worth. Yeah, and that was with DK gone. DK Metcalf back, I'm not playing Jackson Smith. It's a tough cornerback matchup in the slot. It does make me nervous. Deebo and Juan Jennings, I think we're all about, Mike. Yes. Has Juan Jennings as the start of the week Ricky Pierce all yeah
Starting point is 00:34:49 It's fine is a dart throwish type of guy. He was four for 73 with the big touchdown last week. Would you play? Ricky Pierce all or Rashad, babe. Oh That one's interesting. I like Pearsall. I think he's got great hands. I could see that Pittsburgh Baltimore game going, starting slow, starting defensive,
Starting point is 00:35:17 and then ending the game with some. Huge? Some huge stuff. I'd go, I'd go huge for upside against Cincinnati. Yeah, I'd play the kind of number one versus the number three, four. But Pearsall versus Bateman, I think that's very tough. I think if Kettle was to miss due to the hamstring,
Starting point is 00:35:35 Pearsall really steps up. But we'll see CMC again heavily, heavily. Very high odds of scoring a touchdown. Let's put it that way. Yes, but the point being of like, you know, over under at 48, we'll take that. Geno Smith's passing yard line at 247. I mean, I expect a pretty rapid moving game
Starting point is 00:35:55 and I expect both teams to score. Brock Purdy, is he an option? What quarterback? Oh, for sure. What quarterback do you think he is on the year? Oh, he's... Nine? No, I'd go higher than that. I'll go like six. He's eight.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Mm, right in the middle. Somebody's closer. He has not had a finish inside the top five, but he's been eight, seven, six, eight, seven, five. Those have been his best performances. I think Brock Purdy's a really good start this week. There's a lot of quarterbacks, you know, like my start of the week, CJ Stroud,
Starting point is 00:36:30 if I had Brock Purdy or CJ Stroud, I think I'd go Brock Purdy. This matchup against Seattle, you expect him to have success. Are we done with Geno Smith as a stream, or are you guys picking a different week? Not done, but this is not the week. What quarterback on the year is Geno Smith, by the way?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Oh, gosh. I feel like that's got to be 14. Yeah. I think he's a high end QB2 right now. QB9. OK. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Geno. But I mean, I'd need a death. You dog. He started hot. That's no bye week. Oh, OK. OK. No.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I mean, he didn't play last week. So I guess that is a bye week. I'm not doing good on the buys today I won't be honest with you. They're all over the place You know, I need a bye week to get my buys correct. Wait. Yeah, when do we in state that? Oh, do we get a buy? Yeah, and we just like sit Al Borland out here to just Play the harmonica take over Have to raise the chairs. I I've often thought about an episode when we're all gone.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Did you just say we have to raise the chairs? I did. It was great. I took a cheap shot. I love it. I got Jeremy to laugh, so that makes it good. That was good. I have thought about, well, the Deucers are now ranking.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Oh, you're ranking jokes? They're now ranking jokes. Oh, I got a nine from the Falcon. Thank you. I've often thought about just doing an episode when we're all out and just having three bears and just... But they make the deucers... Just roars? No, it's just dead silent.
Starting point is 00:37:55 It's dead silent for... With the cameras switching? Camera switching. They have to do it all. 60 minutes. It's like when... Yeah, exactly. Who's the actor for the show? 60 minutes is like when Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 00:38:06 Who's the who's the actor for this song just keeps going Nick Offerman, you remember when he sat on you? Oh, yeah And he's drinking with all the whiskey in hours Was it really I looked it up ten hours of sitting there sipping whiskey by a fire I mean he had to whiskey by a fire. I mean, he had to have taken a break. No. He had to take a tinkle.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah, that's where it was. Can't drink that much whiskey. I mean, if you're not drinking and sitting. He's sipping, he's just nursing it. It's still gotta go somewhere. Well, I mean, I don't know. Too much whiskey, you gotta take a piss. Maybe I missed it.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah, that's what they say. I'm a fucking swish. Yeah, that's what they say. I'm a fuck Swish Mike too much whiskey. Yeah, take a piss ski. Oh, you're only getting a six over there from Deuce Valley Those guys have no taste. They just alright. They have no they also have nothing to do if they're ranking jokes Kansas City 9-0 Buffalo 8-2 the Draft King sportsbook line, Buffalo minus 2, the over-under is 46. First impressions of this game, who wins it? Oh, Buffalo's going to absolutely demolish the Chiefs. Woo-hoo. That's spicy.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Demolish? I don't mind calling for the win. You're going demolish. Yeah, I mean, I don't think they're going to blow them out. No Dalton Kincade? I don't think they're gonna blow them no Dalton Kincade I don't know they're gonna blow them out in this in the end score, but Not ahead can't use the word demolish and then say this an explanation I think that they will completely control the game
Starting point is 00:39:39 I think they will look better on offense defense special teams in the end Maybe it's you's a close score, but you'll watch this game and be like, the Bills are controlling this game, they're the better team and I think they win handedly. Wait, win handedly? Yeah, that's not a blowout. I'm not saying they're going to win by 14 points. Don't be mad at us when you start it with demolish. Use the word demolish. What do you mean by demolish?
Starting point is 00:40:05 I mean that- You're gonna win by one. I mean that when you've got an undefeated team in Kansas City that hasn't yet had a scoreboard, say negative one, they're going to go to Buffalo and they're gonna get a rude awakening because the Chiefs aren't that great. What's the final score, Jason?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Final score will be 24 To 16 Okay, I'll take the chiefs yeah, I think the probably win it I'm of course big ref over here would always say that let's see so the chiefs have allowed 24 points twice. The Bengals put up 25 and the Bucs put up 24. Three times. Three?
Starting point is 00:40:53 This week in Buffalo! Oh, okay, all right. Demolish. James Cook's gonna have a hard time running inside against the Chiefs. that's my concern, is that you have either a missing or a casted Amari Cooper, you have no Dalton Kincaid, you have no Kion Coleman, you have a running game
Starting point is 00:41:17 that's gonna be stifled, you're gonna be dinking and dunking with Cook in the running game. Kincaid was ruled out, did we say it officially? Yeah, he's gone. Cook and Shakir are both dink and dunk options in the passing game. That's my biggest concern with scoring enough points. Yeah, I think the Chiefs, I think it's close.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I don't think they're gonna demolish them, but I think it'll be close. And, you know, it'll be a tough place to go in and play. The Bills have found a way to win. I definitely think they can win the ball game. And you know, this is not the Bills Chiefs matchup of days of old with Tyreek and Diggs and the high-flying, high-scoring affair.
Starting point is 00:41:59 The over-under's 46, it's fine. It's not special. How do you feel about Hopkins? So his reception line right now is at four and a half, but it's a tiny, it's a small but, but Juju Smith Schuster is practicing in full. I knew- He should be back. I knew for sure that Hopkins was going to take a step back from the previous week in
Starting point is 00:42:19 terms of targets and production. How do I feel about him? Not great. I mean, wide receiver two, three range to me. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I would take the over on four and a half receptions. Towards the end of this game, it's gonna become Mahomes versus Allen,
Starting point is 00:42:39 and the defenses I think will start the game strong, and the quarterbacks will finish the game strong. That's often how it happens with these type of players. You know, Mahomes passing lines at one and a half touchdowns. I mean, your start of the week, Mike Kareem Hunt, I love this week. I think that the place that you do beat the Bills is on the ground.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And Hunt has just been, his fewest since, since his first week in action, he didn't even hit 50% of snaps. If you take that one out, he hasn't had fewer than 22 opportunities in a single game. He's a great play in this matchup. He's Mike's start of the week. Patrick Mahomes has a touchdown prop of one and a half. You
Starting point is 00:43:27 know him getting more weapons back is good. Kelsey is certainly a start and been playing well. Are you playing Stroud against Dallas or you gonna play Mahomes against Buffalo? I'm not I'll play Stroud. I agree. With Nico Collins back not being on you know yeah We'll get into Sunday night football in a minute and but we'll first take a break Cincinnati's four and six the Chargers six and three games in LA Draftkings Sportsbook line Los Angeles minus 1.5, the over-under is 48. Every week feels like a must-win right now for Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:44:13 It would obviously be very good for, like, Jamar Chase went wild last week. But his numbers with and without Higgins over time, it's always better when Higgins is back. I hope Higgins plays because the you know the Chargers are a good defense and you need more weapons to kind of allow them to have to pick their poison. So I love the opportunity for Higgins if he's in there as a wide receiver too. I hope he's back. Chase Brown his rushing lines at 62 and a half he's been a beast. RB 5 since week 4. What decisions do you have to make on that side is it get Siki? Is it Higgins? Are those the two big ones? Yeah for for Cincinnati, McBurrow is in. He's just, he's playing too well.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Obviously Chase is in, or both. I'll say both Chases are in. And it's then T. Higgins. If T. plays, I'm going to play him. It's sketchy. Hopefully we'll know before Sunday night, or Sunday morning I should say, that for sure T. Higgins is Projected to play but if he is out
Starting point is 00:45:26 Then I'll go back to Mike Kosicki. I it didn't work the production went to what was it Tanner Hudson? Mm-hmm But the the targets were still there was nine targets and if you're gonna give a tight end nine targets I'm going to I'm gonna bet on that more than not Jason who demolishes who by a couple points here? I'm gonna bet on that more than none. Jason, who demolishes who by a couple points here? You know, I've got the Bengals winning despite being the road underdogs, but I'm in love with this game.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I was very sad. You want this game? I want this game. I was very sad that it was Sunday Night Football. Great for watching it, but from creating our DK lineup, I wanted players in this game. I think over the course of the season, I've brought it up, the Chargers are the type of team
Starting point is 00:46:09 that hits the under, over and over and over, or under and under and under, whichever way you wanna look at it. This game, the way that Joe Burrow has been playing, I don't think the Chargers are going to be able to impose their slow it down will against the Bengals. I think they're letting Herbert throw the ball more. Are they going to get pulled into a high pace game?
Starting point is 00:46:31 That's what I'm saying. I think they're going to get pulled into a higher pace game. That's how I project this matchup. That means I really want a lot of the pieces here. It's hard to take an over of 48 for a Chargers game. That just hasn't been how they're playing football. But some image is like, I think it happens. Gus Edwards, I think, has a good chance at a touchdown. If you're in one of those bi-week injury areas where you're looking for a, every week there's a team or two
Starting point is 00:47:00 that needs a waiver running back, you have to start. Gus Edwards would be my pick this week. Did you mention JK? No, I haven't. So, JK Dobbins, it's just something to monitor. We don't know what happened, but he didn't practice on Thursday. It listed as personal. So you don't expect it's injury, but you've got to pay attention to it.
Starting point is 00:47:19 We also just got an update here from Zach Taylor, Coach Taylor, saying he expects T. Higgins to play. And they said, we'll see about Orlando Brown, Jr. Yeah, this one is, I like Herbert. Having the opportunity against the Cincinnati defense has been really, really bad against quarterbacks, wide receivers, and tight ends. My only worry is that if the Chargers defense has,
Starting point is 00:47:44 they're at home, and if they have their kind of game, and they are able to slow down what Cincinnati does best, then we could be disappointed with the outcome. The over-under's 48, but they're number three against running backs, they're number three against tight ends. I mean, though,
Starting point is 00:48:00 I love how Burroughs playing, though. The last, their defense has just been so good. They gave up the last week, the Chargers gave up 17 points, the week before 10 points, the week before eight points. Those are phenomenal. However, you have to take it with a grain of salt. The matchups were the New Orleans Saints. Yeah, with nobody.
Starting point is 00:48:16 The Cleveland Browns, playing Jamis ball that week, and then the Tennessee Titans. So I don't think they've really been tested the way that Joe Burrows. It's not tested, yeah. At the beginning. Yeah, Joe Burrows gonna come in here. However, their offense has been getting it going.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Their offense, they've scored 27 points two weeks in a row, 26 before that. QGE being back, I think really helps them. The fact that QGE was gone got Will Disley more involved in the passing. I just, I really like this game. The hardest part is that McConkie is like, even if the offense is getting going,
Starting point is 00:48:48 because of the nature of his role in this offense, if he doesn't score a touchdown, I think you get really disappointed. I mean, the last five games, you've been thrilled. You were thrilled in week eight. He was number two wide receiver, showed what he was capable of, two touchdowns, 111 yards, but he was also a good part of the offense the weeks surrounding
Starting point is 00:49:06 it where he was the wide receiver 36 and 37, still seven targets, didn't get into the end zone, kind of doing the PPR thing. Yeah on average right now he's averaging four receptions and 55 yards. That's not that's just not going to be a happy game so you need the touchdowns which have come He's been looked to around the goal line And I think for that reason and with a higher over-under you can play him here But I do agree if you don't get a touchdown. I don't think you're gonna be happy what I'm want a happy game You know what I mean? We all want happy games Yes, who would you start between lad and Quentin Johnson? I'd start Quinn. I would as well
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yeah, I'm always gonna make that choice because I just think we know the big plays and the touchdowns are both In the cars for Quentin. Yeah, those are more likely. I mean Quentin Johnston's types of targets are farther down the field Lad McConkey a lot of those are the the short move the sticks type of throws that are important But not great now Kyle says that this episode today is type of throws that are important but not great for fantasy. Now Kyle says that this episode today is teaching him that you have very, very high standards for fantasy. The four for 55, you're thinking that's not a happy game. Correct.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And then the running back 23. Love it? Let me teach Kyle something. Cause I don't know how many times I gotta say this. Cause this is like the 20th time. If you don't score 10 fantasy points You're not happy. You're not happy with any player ever single digit and if you go four for 55 I Mean you didn't you didn't goose. Okay, that's great. But did you?
Starting point is 00:50:39 You didn't get 10 fancy points. That's my barometer for a happy or an unhappy manager And I think that's I think that's true. Now, hold on. Technically speaking, our bust metric for consistency charts is seven points or fewer. But that's full bust. Right. So you're saying there's a line between unhappy, it goes,
Starting point is 00:50:57 happy, unhappy, bust. Correct. Because we measure busts good and great, right? Do we need an unhappy? You're talking about for the Truth series? Yeah. Do we need an unhappy one in there between bust and good?
Starting point is 00:51:11 Sure. Is it the meh zone? So here's the funny thing. We actually do have that, and it's literally called the meh. We don't bring it up on that episode, but in our docs, it's listed as meh games, and they're not out. No, it's not. 100%. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:24 It's not calculated in. Those are kind of taken out of the score because they're meh yeah but they exist and they're meh and now we have clarity all right Monday Night Football Houston six and four going to Dallas there's seven and a half point road favorites against Dallas in Dallas. The overrunners 42. Dallas is an implied point total of 17. This line, and you know, Houston being such heavy favorites on the road in Dallas,
Starting point is 00:51:57 it tells you how holistically bad Dallas is. He's screaming about the moon oh Okay, I did I say the moon I couldn't I know I understand it, but I understand it now now that you know what he's saying is gonna be great Gonna be huh great. That's Jerry, huh? That's sticking all right Houston minus Oh, great. That's Jerry, huh? Yeah. That's sticking. All right, Houston minus seven and a half over under 42. Houston gets Nico Collins back.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Dallas made the choice to bring Cooper Rush back. His passing line, 182. After last week's performance, that seems high. You know, you need CD Lamb to be peppered with targets and in created opportunities, end of rounds, screen passes. The red zone target last week without the Sun is a touchdown, right? You have to look at that and say he scores on that play. He was wide open, the play was to him. But gosh darn it, the Sun. The home field advantage.
Starting point is 00:53:08 The home field advantage got it. Really turned on you. So Lamb is, you're not gonna sit Lamb down just because of this move. That is not happening. We now know that Rico Dowdle is the guy. It's a little too late here, McCarthy. Daylight dollar short.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Yeah, like if you would have done this week one, your team is a lot better. Is this validation for you? Do you feel a semblance of validation? Jason's face says no. My face says of course it is. Oh, thank you. I don't know in what world you could live where this isn't validation for Mike's take on Rico Dowdell.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It took nine weeks for them to decide he's better than a cooked Zeke. It took nine weeks for Mike McCarthy to stand up to Jerry Jones. Sure, that might be what it was. Because he's like, I'm getting fired anyways. I'm going to play the better player. Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. Rico's looked pretty good. Now this is a tough matchup.
Starting point is 00:54:01 It is. So I think he's a flex option. Total yards for Rico versus Jerry Jones's age. Oh, I'm taking Jerry Jones's age for sure. Oh, that's very funny. Rico is not crossing 100. He's 82. He's 82 years old.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Wow. His face doesn't look 80. I thought he was looking good for 100. Instead, he's looking bad for 82. Looking bad for 82 is a top five insult on the earth. Planet Earth, of all the things you could be told. Look, it feels good. It feels very validating that they're officially saying, hey, Rico's going to be our guy. He averages three receptions a a week that's what you're hoping for is the I mean I
Starting point is 00:54:50 just gave the new Audra guest to me I'm expecting double-digit carries in that you're hoping between 60 and 70 rushing yards hopefully you get that in the tough matchup plus then you just juice it up with maybe four receptions for 15 to 25 yards. And you're okay with that. But it's going to be tough. The one thing I do love that we saw last week was that he had three targets, three receptions. Because we weren't sure. Rico had been involved in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And so that had been great. But now with the backup quarterback coming in, you're not sure if they're gonna check it down or not. Rico only played 52% of the snaps, still had the three receptions. So I, you know. He's fine. He is fine. He's an every down player on a team
Starting point is 00:55:34 you don't wanna watch. Right. Now, CJ Stroud on the year, do you know what he is in points per game? Cause I got that number for you. Points per game, CJ Stroud. And let's just say it's been a number that has been working its way through today's episode.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Oh, he's the quarterback. 14. 23. 23. That's what I was gonna say. 23, that's been enough. That is, I mean that's. I was gonna say that, but I said something else.
Starting point is 00:55:58 It's demolished. Look, he's your start of the week, Jason. The matchup against his Dallas defense, the return of Nico. My only worry on him underperforming your expectations this game is not needing to. Right, it becomes a complete Joe Mixon game. They slowed Detroit down. Like their defense looked really, really good.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Five picks against Jared Goff in that offense. What can they do against Cooper Rush? I agree, they might not necessarily need him, but I do genuinely think that Nico being back, Nico will get his. Nico will get a over-the-top touchdown in this game at some point, and that goes to CJ Stroud. That's why I'm okay playing him.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Nico's obviously, for all of us, a top 10 wide receiver play this week. He's gonna be in. I'm really I like him a lot. Yeah. Because you ever do the move where you trade for somebody and then you go watch all their highlights? Yeah I've done that. I did that. That's not good. I went and did that. I went and watched all of the Nico. Never going back to the pants store. So Mixon, of course, Nico, of course. You can play Stroud. And Tank is fine. Yeah, and Tank is fine. And don't play the slowest man on the planet. That would be Dalton Schultz. That's Dalton Schultz. Who has a DK receiving line of only 33 yards. You ever seen people run in place?
Starting point is 00:57:27 That's what he looks like to me. It's so funny to me that Dalton Schultz of anyone to just be macho man elbow drop from on top of the cage. He's like, where's these Dalton Schultz? I know, man. Leave him alone. He's a doctor. He was three for 66 in that game against Detroit.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I will be rooting to see Trey Lance in this game. I have to admit. My man. Oh, yeah, me too. And I think. My man. By the way, Jake Ferguson out with an illness right now, not out for the game, out for practice,
Starting point is 00:58:01 and not really somebody you can rely on. Is he down with cuporeitis, yeah, I would be down. Yeah. I'd be like, Ooh, my stomach hurts. The sun, the moon. Where's the moon, Jerry? All right. It's time. Well, go ahead, Jay. Uh, before we move on to the fantasy face off, I wrote a note down. I'm not feeling great about my bills prediction oh yeah you're pulling back on demolished I'm pulling back on the fall oh man are you going back on win no I do think they pull out
Starting point is 00:58:40 the wind but I was gonna joke that you were gonna backtrack to the point where they win by negative four. No, it's going to be tough. Yes, because the Chiefs offense is not great. Their defense is top tier. I just forgot how many weapons that the Bills were missing at the beginning. I was so excited about giving the chiefs the first loss of the season that I just jumped the gun. And I gotta be a little bit more intellectually
Starting point is 00:59:13 honest. So this is me taking my, you know. Yeah, it's good. It's the humility. Yeah, an immediate L. Their pre-apology. Until. No, no, no. If they demolish them, this will be a gigantic L now. I should have just tried to get lucky. Okay, now we can move on.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Here we go. ["Draft Kings Theme Song"] Fantasy Face-Off, presented by Draft Kings. All right, last week, I was to to end up on top 112 Jason 109. Remember the gnome zone those good times. Mike 94 and he gets to spin the wheel before week's lineups. Wheel of shame. Alright. Spin it. Yeah, spin that sweet wheel. I saw mall cop and Iceman.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I saw something with pizza. Uh, pizza face. Freebird? Freebird! Let's... Freebird? Remember that beard with the white hair last week, Mike? Oh, I do.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yeah. And how it kind of lived on me and Jason for a while? Yeah. Time to climb in. Oh man, I could see the white hairs flying through the wind. I just saw some white hair flying through the wind. Oh, fantastic. To be fair, I didn't know it was going to do that.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Well, you know what? I bought this a long time ago, so... I can't even fit. We really every time we buy something we have to wonder. I literally can't see anything guys. That's fine. You can't. No I'm like I can't my eyes don't reach the eye holes the face is too big. Here's the rules then. I'll send the thing over. You can send it over. Okay. Or you can read it and then you have to climb back into that disgusting mask. Oh yeah this thing is everywhere. I think you can wear it just like that. That's that's looking real good. Oh man you're just blowing that hair everywhere. We ate those beards Mike we ate them. Eat up
Starting point is 01:01:20 eagle. I am. Free bird. All right, my quarterback this week, as Mike figures out what to do, I'm going with Russell Wilson. I'm taking Wilson at 5,900. My quarterback is Russell Wilson. I'm taking Russell Wilson at 5,900. Guess what I have Russell Wilson. Unlimited.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Dang it! You guys both sounded like you weren't gonna do that earlier this week. Unlimited. It was a ruse. I've had him in all week. I know. Okay, my running backs this week, guys. I'm going with a couple teams playing at home. Devon A. Chan, 7,200 at home against Las Vegas. Just too good of a matchup. And I'm taking David
Starting point is 01:01:58 Montgomery. I'm going the Montgomery route at home against Jacksonville. In a game, they should blow them out. I'm taking Montgomery over Gibbs in this, 6,500. Wow, I am going. How is this supposed to work? Well, people with normal heads, there are eye holes. There's an eye hole up at the top. This is my forehead.
Starting point is 01:02:19 No. Right there. That's my forehead, dude. Like, what? All right, go ahead. You can emerge for breathing purposes. So Andy, we're identical so far. Are you serious? I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I have A-chan and Montgomery, 7,200 and 6,500. We'll see if we can do the first ever identical matched lineup. It's never going to happen. We're very close, because I have Devon H. and it's 7,200. Come on. But I'm gonna take the better Detroit Lions running back. I will take Jameer Gibbs. Yeah, okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:02:52 So that's ironic though, same matchup. My wide receivers, Jason, we'll put it to the test. We obviously all have Pickens. We got George Pickens. Yeah. I got Pukka Nakua against New England at 7,300. Woo, spicy. I've got Calvin Ridley at home 6,200 against Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Wow, I really do like those players quite a bit. I would say I like them even more than my two. Who I like, which is DK Metcalf at 6,500 and Juwan Jennings at 5,300, along with Pickens, of course. Mike is a dead man. I do have Calvin Ridley and George Pickens, but I went Cortland Sutton
Starting point is 01:03:30 against the Atlanta Falcons at 5,900. Yeah, Sutton's a good price. He was in my lineup before I pivoted to Ridley. I might regret it. Davis Allen, 2,500 at tight end, too cheap to save some money. And my flex is actually, I'm doubling up at tight end, too cheap to save some money. And my flex is actually I'm doubling up on tight end. I'm taking TJ Hawkinson, the PPR machine.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, OK. The PPMachine? The PPMachine, TJ Hawkinson. OK. Alan Hawkinson in the Browns defense against New Orleans at 2,600. Okay, I have, I've got Dennis Allen, Davis Allen as well.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Oh, Dennis Allen at tight end. 2,500, I've got in my flex, I've got Kareem Hunt against Buffalo Mike's start of the week at 6,700 and crap, at the bottom, the Titans, 2,300. Their defense at home against a great Minnesota offense. I'm just hoping Darnold can. Were they the cheapest? I don't think they were the cheapest. They're very low, though.
Starting point is 01:04:35 But they're only 2,300. Mike, your final three? Dennis Allen, AKA Davis Allen. Then I do have Joann Jennings as my flex at 5,300. And I went the Cleveland Browns Yeah, I guess your guys's defense really outdid my defense last week or yeah that helped a lot And I feel like I would rather have the Browns in the neither of you guys went the peepee machine No, only you went with the peepee machine
Starting point is 01:05:00 Oh man, oh gee Oh man, I preferred Hockleys, but Pee Pee Machine it is. We've done the Wheel of Shame for a while, Mike. Where is this on the scale? I mean, it's really not that bad. Like, the... Bird is the word? It's just, I literally can't...
Starting point is 01:05:18 It's impossible to even get it close to being able to have visibility. There have been multiple times this year where we've looked through some stuff. But when I emerge, it goes in my mouth. For a wheel of shame. And we've had people put it on and go, would this fit Mike's head? Like, we don't make. After this, I need at least someone else to verify that this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I put it on. I could see through the eyes. I put it on as well. It's a real big head size issue, Mike. I mean, that's all this is. What we need to do is we need to get, you know how there's those shoe stretchers? You put this, we just need to get a, do they make?
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