Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 11 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Mike Has No Pants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/14
Episode Date: November 14, 2025Fantasy Football show for Nov 14, 2025. What a start to Week 11! Thursday Night recap and matchup previews on today’s show. Mike celebrates TreVeyon Henderson’s big night! Plus, start/sit advice f...or your fantasy football lineups, injury updates, and the Wheel of Shame. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(00:45) Thursday Night Recap(08:55) Footclan Friday(09:20) NFL News(12:15) Fantasy Forecast(12:35) Chargers at Jaguars(18:40) Seahawks at Rams(24:30) 49ers at Cardinals(29:00) Ravens at Browns(34:15) Chiefs at Broncos(39:57) Lions at Eagle(45:15) Cowboys at Raiders(46:59) Fantasy Faceoff + Wheel of ShameConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Oh, welcome in.
Woo, who, who, ho, ho, who, who, who, are you not in a.
It is a good time
Oh, you not?
Give him the camera.
It's a good time to be Mike.
Hatrick Hindo, baby.
Woo!
Oh yeah, give me that light.
Give me that light.
Give me those party lights.
Yo!
Oh, what a night.
It is impossible.
Oh,
it is impossible to describe the current.
I mean,
Let's just be honest.
Mike has his own Triforce going of...
Yeah, three touchdowns.
Well, sure, but I was literally going to go.
The combination of CMC, RICO, and Trayvion currently in the place that they're in is worthy
of every bit of victory lapping and he's got the blue blockers on.
Oh, man.
The setup made it, like, we had to wait for it.
Made it even better.
Made it made it even better.
realize that if, I don't know if you know this, if one of your other players, Bijon Robinson,
goes crazy this weekend and has four touchdowns on the ground, that would be enough to
just barely pass Trayvion on the year. He has three more touchdowns on the ground. Trayvon does
than Bijon Robinson. It was, it was everything you could have. I am shocked you're wearing any
pants on the show. I feel like. Yeah, we're on YouTube.
feel like you would have been fine with an NC-17 rating of this podcast.
I mean, unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
I mean, this has to be enough for Vrable, right?
Yes, it has.
And he played like 90% of the snaps.
This is.
Well, who else?
And I posted the, uh, the advanced numbers.
What channel did I put that in?
Yeah, I, I, nine forced missed tackles.
Trayvion Henderson gained more rushing yards after contact 70 than total rushing yard 62.
and his three touchdown performance against the Jets.
I mean, he's very good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Boy, you had to wait.
Oh, we did.
You had to go on.
We did.
What, an eight-week sweat fest.
It was tough for the streets to hold that faith.
But we got there, everybody.
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, 27 to 14, three of the four touchdowns were, they were, they were Trevion.
Or actually, all their touchdowns, right?
Because they had two field goals.
So, yeah, it was two rush, one receiving.
Yeah, it was, it was awesome.
It really was.
And on the other-
Matt Collins always being productive.
Dude, I love that, dude.
That's like the third or fourth week in a row.
I played him in a league yesterday.
Matt Collins is a dog.
Yeah.
The other side was really entertaining because we had talked about that insane passing yard
line for Justin Fields of like 120.
Yeah, how low it was.
Something.
1-16.
Yeah, he didn't get.
get there. I mean, you know, you would have been, you're definitely disappointed in the
briefs overall fantasy output, but especially because he only caught two passes for six yards.
Other people's trash were the wide receivers that played the most for the Jets,
John Mechie and Adonai Mitchell.
Stavon Diggs had a fine night too.
He doesn't play for the Jets, though. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.
It's okay. I'm just thinking about the Patriots over here, guys.
You got Trayvon on the mind. But, yeah, I mean, they handled their business. They're nine and two.
The Patriot is now 9 and 2.
281 yards for Drake May.
I wasn't sure he was going to put up that kind of yardage in that game,
but he got it done.
Stefan Diggs has been really consistent.
I mean, any other thoughts on the game?
Trayvion with five catches?
Yeah, just the delicious.
I mean, it's just Trayvion.
Yeah, it's, that was everything that the world was watching.
The world was uplifting Trayvion Henderson.
He came through.
And the big question is just,
What will Vrable do?
And honestly, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I mean, it's not,
Romandre will get worked in.
Yes, but how much?
Like, what?
I mean, I would worry a little bit about goal line,
like direct goal line.
Not necessarily inside the 10,
but like inside the 10 carries were boss.
Yeah, he,
well,
the thing about this performance,
um,
as the night went on,
the majority of his work was between the tackles.
You know,
he had the night,
the first touchdown was a one cut plus a
finishing run where they pushed them in.
The second one, knifed through the defense.
And the third one was not a traditional
like screen pass touchdown from a whiteout.
It was much more of a like little sides.
He was the one who was crossing and got open.
Snuck behind the defense.
It was the.
It was great.
The Tray Force, the Triforce, whatever you want to say.
It happened.
And I mean, the, I don't know what.
It was like his second or third touch.
Like he almost ripped off a huge 50 yard.
Well, he's always got that chance.
But I was just like the fact.
that that's there plus every
oh my goodness what a night
what a night it was spectacular
we may be in the midst of
the greatest
my guy reclamation
midseason project i mean
george kiddle returning from injury
electric jameson williams having three of four
good weeks i'm hoping that continues with the new
offense of coordinator and then travion
becoming it's not just travion it's all chase brown is back
that's true yeah i had forgotten about him
yeah because it was like chase
Brown is perfect. This is going to work. And then Joe
Burl. Okay. Joe Burr. All right, guys.
Never wrong. Just early.
That just reminds me of the Cooper Cup year that he was
a my guy. And then the next year he's the number one
overall. And I was like, come on. Always
just a bit early. Friday, November 14th, the fantasy footballers.
That would be Jalen Waddle this year.
True. Yeah.
True. Yeah, we do that. Never wrong. Just early.
We do that sometimes. Where was this last year, Waddle?
We know their potential better.
than they do is what I'm they just need to listen to us better in themselves the co we need the coaches
to tune in yeah we got to give these guys personal phone calls every year give me the number just to
affirm like look hey we believe in you every Sunday of it rabble brayble rable i know you're thinking
about it like i know you're thinking about putting remandre back in you can't unring this bell man
It's a five touchdown bell.
Half to hope.
Have to hope.
All right.
Well, in the least mean and aggressive way possible, I do really mean it.
Like, I'm glad Remandre got hurt.
Not because I want him hurt, but because of Trayvion having the opportunity that we all,
I mean, there was a point in this season where we said if he had been drafted by the Bears,
like a pick later, you know you would have gotten to see it on the field way or later.
So it's just.
the insane thing is genuinely if remandre did not get injured
travion would have had two worthless weeks most likely the last two weeks
yeah like that yeah they don't exist yeah so sad
yeah this is going to be infinite validation on the if you give them a shot maybe it
will work uh narrative in fantasy football but never a doubt we
don't zoom the camera on those eyes
never a doubt huh oh oh no never a doubt oh yeah yeah
No, it's awesome.
I'm so happy for you.
There you go, man.
Twitter last night was electric.
Oh, man.
I can't, like, if the word pants was not trending last night,
the Twitter is not searching the algorithm properly.
And you pulled it downtown.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Hey, football card nerds out there with us.
You had a night.
In the midst of the triple hat-trick touchdown.
I pulled the Patrick Malm's downtown.
You live in life, Mike.
It's over.
Yeah, it's over.
You just peeped.
Last night was your peak.
I'm just going to walk from here to the cemetery.
To the heavenly games.
Lower me down.
You should have yourself a countertop steak.
Oh, yeah.
You should have yourself a nice eight hour.
Take you down a notch.
Yeah, you know, he could fight it off.
He'd be fine.
It is a busy show today.
We talked about Thursday night.
We have more matchups today.
We've got the fantasy faceoff as well.
a lot of bye weeks, so we do have a lot of matchups to get
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we like thursdays because uh the wednesday practice people they come on back and make you
feel better sometimes how they're doing yeah sometimes we had rico dowdell coming back to a limited
practice uh drake london returned from an illness we do have news bucky irving chris godwin
both limited but active around the practice field.
Yeah, I don't expect either of them to be active on Sunday,
but they're getting close.
This seems like one of those practice windows where you open it up,
get them back to football shape,
and then in a couple weeks they'll be playing ball.
Kalil Shakir Limited on Thursday still wearing a non-contact jersey.
That would be, you know, if you take Shakir off the field
and Dalton Kincaid off the field.
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, maybe Dawson Knox is.
a real start player. He's a touchdown
threat, but.
Keon Coleman maybe.
Dard throw on Coleman this week. But that's the thing of
like, I don't think Coleman can get it done.
Yeah, I'm just saying, I mean, he did it last week, so
that's my best guess.
That's how it feels. Dalton Schultz, though, didn't practice again on Thursday.
Jason's start of the week?
Well, yeah, absolutely.
That's a bad, I brought it up. Bad decision. Terrible.
I brought it up. Well, there's two players that I was really
excited for this week.
both of which, you know, the middling lower tier guys that I think are good starts who aren't
practicing even on Thursday. One is Dalton Schultz. One is Darius Slayton. I think with James Winston,
their great opportunity, but, you know, they have to play football in order to score fantasy points.
Yeah, Darius Slate not practicing, that sucks. Romadunzee, D.J. Moore, limited practices on Thursday.
We weren't sure if D.J. Moore was going to miss time or not. Still don't know, but coming back to practice,
that's a big deal
they should let him heal
he's not
it feels like he's doing so little
in the offense right now
it's not to be healthy
yeah don't put too much of a burden on him
yeah that's what I'm talking about
yeah
and then we have some injury updates
for the games we're going to cover today
we'll get into those
as we jump into the match chips
and make sure you're up to speed
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and looks like Ricky Pierce saw
will be as well
that one is that's great
yeah they were both in this
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they could never play again that's how it felt like yeah that was news and notes sponsored by progressive
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Well, well, well, we covered the commanders, dolphins,
Panthers, Falcons, Buccaneers, Titans, Bears, Vikings, Panthers, Giants,
or sorry, Packers, Giants, Bengals and Steelers on yesterday's show.
Seven more matchups today, starting with the Chargers,
seven and three, taking on the five and four Jacksonville, Jaguars.
The Vegas line here, Chargers minus three, over under 43 and a half.
first impressions of the line.
Do you, are you surprised?
Does it seem right?
See, I would have probably guessed three and a half or four for the Chargers.
That's kind of how I was too, actually.
So, you know, Jacksonville off the 29 to 10 collapse last week.
Trevor Lawrence is Trevor Lawrence.
Chargers' offense has been humming along.
They've won four of five.
You've got to love where Ladd McConkey is right now.
He feels like there was a point in the season where it did feel like,
every player was viable.
I'm not there anymore.
Like, I think Ladd is a very, very must start and probably won't fail you.
Kuge is the next man up to me on reliability standpoint.
And then it goes Gadsden and then it goes King.
Yeah.
I would agree with the order.
Keenan is certainly, he's been, I don't know, one of those, we see it a lot of years
where these older players, they come out really hot to start the season.
It's like they're fresh.
And then it's just like, it just kind of fade a little.
Like they're still there.
He's still going to move the chains, but he's not going to just dominate and takeover games
the way he was, you know, the first month of the season.
Adam, this is we called an Adam Thielen.
No, and it's true.
And I mean, and Kenan's had, he said a handful of years in the past, too,
where the second half he gets hurt or something goes wrong.
Come on, he Vidal.
We are, uh, if we're looking at the box scores.
Oh, no.
We got to be out, right?
This is, this would be a bad week.
Did Raylight, Greenlight keep going?
It kept going.
Oh, man.
And the Jaguar's defense, their number seven against the running back position.
That is their strength.
Vidal, though, I, you know, when you have a top ten finish,
that's why people play you the next week.
You play Vidal.
But just no, this is the week where it doesn't work out.
Yes, if the incredible, very predictive analysis.
21, 5, 19, 3, 17.
If that continues, he will be bad.
but, I mean, last week, 93% of the snaps.
If you follow the pattern, he should score one fantasy.
26 opportunities.
Would you play him or Woody Marks after last week's performance from Woody Marks?
I would play Vidal.
That's what I would do.
I'm more comfortable in the work.
Travis E.N?
How are we feeling?
We're feeling mad.
Somebody's starting Travis E.T.N.
I am. I'm starting Travis E.T.N. in our league of record.
He's been pretty good for the season.
It just hasn't, it's not efficient, which is not shocking.
Travis E.N. has really been like a touchdown guy.
The thing is, is he gets touchdowns.
So I think that's a legit question, is E.T.N or Vidal.
Those two guys, I'm probably on the E.T.N. side, but that's the tier that I think I see him in right now.
I think I'm comfortable with that. We know that the Chargers defense.
the run funnel. The Jags defense, very good against the run. I would go there myself, I think.
Herbert's my start of the week. Jacksonville's allowed five straight top 12 quarterback performances,
even to Davis Mills. And Brian Thomas Jr. limited the ankle, probably not going to play.
Parker Washington, fortunately, came back to practice on Thursday after missing with a hamstring,
so I'm more optimistic there. He's been targeted on a team leading 25% of
routes in the last month.
I was even with some Travis Hunter and
Brian Thomas Jr. out there.
What do you do if Brian Thomas plays?
Like, do you even play him?
Probably.
Yeah, I think I do.
I mean, he's been, he's had 10 or more
points two times.
No, I mean, Parker's been much better.
That's like the,
let me try and find some names here.
Like, I mean, well, just ask the question
in this game. Let's say Brian Thomas Jr.'s
back. And you have him and you've got Parker
Washington, who do you start? And that's a wild question. It's a wild question because
I mean, how many games are going to be involved? I mean, he was three for 41 in his debut
last week. I thought he looked good. He'll probably be more involved. Like there's a world where
Thomas and Parker, like Parker might go in limited on Friday. And then all of a sudden you asked
unfortunately, I'm throwing another name in the ring. Jacoby. Jacoby's like kind of interesting
in this game. Yeah, I mean, the, the, the,
truth is the Chargers pass defense is very good.
So I'm not excited about any of them, including Parker
Washington, with the hamstring issue, despite his
great game last week. They're not, I think there are other
players that are just better options this week.
A reminder, you always can find our rankings and start sit
tool, which is always being updated all throughout the week
at the fantasy footballers.com. Gadsden, got a full
practice in on Wednesday and Thursday. That's great news.
He should be back out there.
um jason was confident enough to trade for him and start him this week so that should tell you
what you need to know we'll take a quick break and jump it's going to go terrible oh is it i know
what happens when jason trades for tight ends it hasn't been the best oh tight it's a tight end
kiss of death yeah they've been getting injured sorry guys yeah stay healthy gadsen yeah you uh
you cursed him what's the opposite of midas who is there another guy than midas
where everything he touched turns just like poop yeah
I mean, turning everything to gold is actually not very great.
King chocolate or something.
All right.
We'll go ahead and take a break.
We've got another matchup coming up.
I was actually picturing that like the chocolate monster on the Candy Land board.
Oh.
That's what I was, which is kind of a gross thing to picture.
All right, Seattle, seven and two, if it's not chocolate.
At Los Angeles, the Rams 7 and 2.
That's chocolate?
Mm-mm.
Oh, you're looking at a picture of it?
I'm looking at it right now.
I mean, it is.
It's Candyland, Mike.
That's not chocolate.
That's not chocolate.
That's doo-doo, baby.
Oh, that's disgusting.
He's kind of a nasty creature, isn't he?
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't want to get sent back to Chocolate Lamb.
No, no, you don't.
In that game.
And he's towards the beginning of the board, I think.
So you really don't because I'm a, are there professional Candyland players out there?
Oh, they're so freaking funny.
There has to be.
I mean, a pro circuit?
No, I'm saying like, I've seen people play like high stakes Uno.
Oh, baby.
There's got to be.
There has to be a high stakes candy land.
Just pure, unadulterated chance.
All right, the Seahawks and Rams.
This is a fun one.
It's a 48.5 point over under.
It's in Los Angeles.
It's for the division.
Yeah, I mean, L.A.
minus three in this one. I love this game. I'm very excited about it. I think I would have probably
gone with whoever was at home in this one, so I lean the ram side. Matthew Savard has been
on fire, but the Seahawks have a great defense that's going to really challenge the run he's on.
Puka and Devante should both be back out there. Kyron, you know, he is, he's been good. It's interesting
to see what the snap counts have been.
I mean, Kairn is not playing as much as he has in the past,
but he's being just as productive.
I mean, four of the last five weeks in the top 12,
three of those, top five, four touchdowns.
He's back into the touchdown groove.
Last week was, yeah, season low snaps,
14 carries, Korm had 13.
That was the dismantling of the 49ers.
I don't look too much into that.
If you had Ken Walker and Charbonnet,
Are you still going Charbonnet?
Yeah.
I think you have to.
Only one of them can get a touchdown.
I was going to say Walker can only get a touchdown if it's from like 25 yards away or something.
50 plus.
Yeah, right now, I'm pretty excited about this.
Jason has been amazing.
He must have like a contract bonus for touchdowns.
Oh, Ken Walker?
He's got some escalators in there.
Don't you let him get eight.
Would you play the quarterbacks in this game?
Sam Donald for sure.
Yeah, and Stafford.
Yeah, Stafford, you, he is on
a eight, he's nuclear right now.
He's a must start. Top eight and five of six,
yeah. Devante Puka combo has worked
out really well. It's a wild one because Cooper
Cup was, I will say, he's on the other side
of this one. If, so
Devante Adams didn't practice Wednesday,
limited on Thursday with his old man back
injury. If Adams
doesn't play, it does
change how I look at Stafford.
100% because around the goal line, that's, I mean,
that's the different. League leading nine
touchdowns for Devante Adams and those are obviously Stafford's. I don't think it happens
without him there. They probably run the ball more. Focus on Kyron. So I would agree with you that
if Adams doesn't play, that being said, you know, they came out and basically said that he should
be good to go. Just to highlight what's going on with Stafford here, he already has more passing
touchdowns than his entire 2024 season and his entire 2023 season. No, it's been like this is
this is why it feels like it could go away at any time because we've seen Stafford with
the Rams for a long time and it's really just one monster season but that's why I'm saying
Devante Adams is he's the difference well I guess the then the question that needs to be
answered is so he's an outlier right now in his touchdown percentage he's throwing 8.1
touchdowns is his current rate his previous career percentage yes 8.1% touchdown percentage
previous career high was 6.8.
Yeah, that first year with the Rams.
So then the question is,
should we expect this to regress towards his average,
or is this that outlier season for him?
I mean, mathematically you should always expect it,
but I would...
He had...
I keep rolling the dice.
I'll always remember his third season.
Oh, yeah.
Because that was the 41 touchdown season.
He was at 6.2 that year.
It dipped to 2.8 the next year,
but it was a special year.
ride it.
Right it while you can
and enjoy the ride.
I also think that when you are in the MVP race,
you know what I mean?
Like he is.
The coach wants to give you a couple extra gold line targets.
Absolutely.
You might end up with a couple tap passes.
Like the old Lamar's in the race at the end of the year.
Like maybe we play action a little bit more.
Yeah.
Would you,
you a couple of Ken walkers here.
No. Ken Walker, Kareem Hunt
against Denver.
Because we know Pacheco's
hurt. Right.
I've got him back to back. I've got
one spot. Probably Kareem Hunt.
As you're chasing a touchdown.
Mari DiMarcato or Ken Walker?
Walker. I think it's still go Walker there.
Okay.
That's way closer than
it should be. Yeah, that conversation.
Oh, that's disgusting. Well, I mean, Mike,
if you really want to keep
your momentum there's another
Ken Walker
Don't try and knock me off my cloud
No no no no we want your cloud
Quatro this thing go lasso
Walker show us their power and pull him up on that
Cloutgeron guys I can only do so much
Don't leave him down there
It makes me want to bet on Walker now
It does make me feel like Walker's going to blow up
It's all the if Walker blows up this week
Walker has a two touchdown week
Mike will be scared of Mike
Blake will be levitating off the chair.
The 49ers are 6 and 4, and they take on the Arizona Cardinals in D. Maracado.
The Cardinals are 3 and 6.
The Vegas line, San Fran on the road, minus 3.
They get some weapons back.
Overrunners 48 and a half.
That's a nice overrunner.
It gives the Cardinals 23 points.
San Francisco around 26.
San Francisco won a nasty one, 16, 15, somehow,
because the Cardinals had dominated the whole game,
and they came back and kicked a field.
to win it.
Marve, just like his appendix,
will be out.
Nice. Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah, the Cardinals
will not have Marvin Harrison. They will not
have Zay Jones, who has
had a big role on the team, who tore his Achilles.
They probably
will not have Bam Knight. If he is back,
he will be limited. DeMarcato
seems like the one to play from that group.
He can catch the ball. He has breakaway runs
frequently. It's not a huge...
I mean, you just heard the breakdown, so it's in the
Ken Walker tier. Yeah, I can't imagine wanting to start Demarcato. I know he's had some
breakaway runs, but he only have four carries last week. If I had to start a Cardinal, I probably
would prefer DeMarcato over Bam Knight, who was limited in practice this week, but I'm not excited.
If Bam Knight really doesn't play, if he's absent from the game, then DeMarcato becomes interesting.
Trey McBride is a lock for a high, high floor this week with good ceiling opportunity
with Jacoby, who has been the quarterback 312, 10, 10 in four starts.
averages 280 passing yards a game, which means you should be able to find another player
that's startable.
I mean, the defense for San Francisco is not good, especially against the wide receiver
position.
They give up 34 points a week, and currently we've said no names.
So to me, Michael Wilson.
It is, at least of note, Jacobi's started four games.
Yeah.
So the first five weeks of the season, Michael Wilson with Kyla Murray was averaging 10 yards a game, 10 receiving yards a game with Jacoby. It's 45.
So that's nothing, you know, if you play it, you're, and get 50 yards or you're not very happy, but saying the opportunity for someone who has been producing of late is there. It's nasty, but it's worse.
Parker, Washington or Michael Wilson? I think that's a good question. I would.
go i'd go parker the way i'm not going to go away from that target totals i think i'm
michael wilson there the the injury on parker scares luther burdner michael wilson
wilson okay yeah um the charie mcbyte's story has been great ricky pearsall how confident
would you be to throw him back out there i'd be i'd be nervous i'd be nervous but i would do it
immediately that's i think that's exactly where i am wow so you would bench jennings uh yeah
Pearsall? Yeah. Yeah, I would.
Okay. George Kittle, keep it
going. CMC, he's
only on pace for 459 opportunities.
Oh, no.
That's going to, and he just keeps going on. You better be sleeping in some
sort of mystical chamber right now.
459 opportunities.
Yeah. He's built differing.
Are you?
You can't do that. He is still a human.
Like, yes.
Yeah, certainly.
Oh, man.
But this is their...
It's going to be turning to mince meat.
Yeah, I mean, they just haven't had anybody else to lean on.
Yeah.
No, I think this team really does need Pearsall.
Pierceal was, I believe he was leading the league in yards,
receiving yards per game.
He was, yeah.
And so, yeah, he was leading the league when his first three weeks,
yeah.
But it was only a three week, three week sample before the injury.
And the thing with Pearsall,
Shanahan says he's going to play.
I wouldn't put him in your lineup.
on Friday afternoon and
walk away. I would
Because of Shana Hanigans? Correct. Like
I put it at high, high odds
he's going to play. I'm just saying
with the way that San Francisco does start.
Oh! Oh no!
Andy's almost upset of the week.
Wait a minute.
What are you doing?
What? You don't
have to do this.
I'm just hitting the button.
Just hit in the button
It's been a minute
By the way
Are you going to care about Brock Purdy
As a fantasy player
Before the end of the year
Yes or no
Yes
Okay
Baltimore 4 and 5 Cleveland
2 and 7
The Vegas line Baltimore
Minus
7 and a half
The overhunter is 38 and a half
At least I'm getting the reaction
I need for it to be right
I just
That's a
That's a
hefty amount of pain
Here's do you want the argument or no
Sure
The argument is
the pass rush for
the 49ers is the worst in football
since they lost Nick Bosa.
They don't put pressure on the quarterback. And if you
don't put pressure on Jacoby Brissette, he dices people
up. That's what he's done.
And I have confidence
in the Cardinals' defense. You got Brock Pretty coming back
from an injury. I think
dice enough. I think they'll do enough. You guys don't have to believe.
No, no. No, no. I just have to watch. I
recognize the sorcerer, but
I'm saying, can they dice enough with Michael Wilson
and Greg Dorch.
Don't forget
Xavier Weaver
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The guy
this year when we saw him
on the field,
we went, who is that?
Yeah.
I mean, they've diced.
As Cardinal fans,
as professional football
analyst who live in Arizona
Cardinals fan
where I've never heard of this guy.
With all due respect,
he has diced
without Marvin Harrison
in some of those games.
Two of the games
that they,
where he diced up the defense,
guess what the total yardage was
for Harrison,
32 and 58.
They can get a doubt.
They still at least have to pay it
attention to Marv, though.
Even if he doesn't get the ball.
Hey, look, I hit the button.
This will be a fun one.
I've already introduced the next game.
Baltimore, four and five, Cleveland
2 and 7, Baltimore minus 7 and a half on the road
over under just 38.
Gives Baltimore enough points, but not Cleveland.
15 and a half there. Let's start with the
Cleveland side. Baltimore smushed them.
41, 17 in week two.
Lamar is going to play.
He is playing well.
The other side there, Quinchon Judkins
against the world is what it feels like.
Yeah.
And the Ravens defense in the last six weeks, Jason?
Very good.
So much better.
I mean, they are shutting down the run.
Quarterbacks aren't doing much better.
Mike brought this up a couple weeks ago talking about how early in the year with all the
injuries to the Ravens defense and when they were losing most of their games and just
anyone could do anything they want.
They went to their buy.
They came back.
They got healthier and they also schematically just changed things.
They've really been locked down.
And I don't expect the Browns with.
Gillen Daybriol, as you would say.
As I call him.
I don't expect them to be the ones to revert Baltimore to a bad defense.
So yeah, I mean, it's quench on Judkins.
And I think that's it.
I'm not sure I even want to start Harold Fanon, who is awesome.
You know, I think that's it.
Like, just Judkins.
I just took a quick look in our League of Record if Jerry Judy was rostered.
Is he?
Oh, yeah, that guy back there.
That's the Judy manager back there.
I just picked him up on waivers.
Oh, did you really?
Is he in your lineup?
Yep.
Okay, all right.
That's how bad it's going for last year's jam.
Gill and Gabriel's going to have to throw that ball a lot.
I did see one other person had a claim on Jerry Judy this week.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Who was it?
Jason, you care to fess up?
Oh, Jason.
No.
What are you?
What's what about?
Oh, Derek Judy.
No, I, earlier in the week, I had no players.
You want to marry him.
So I, you're under the bus too.
No, no, no.
He did that, he had two by-week situations.
He told me, he had like Calvin Austin in his lineup.
Yeah, and I made trades and I fixed my lineup because I would never.
The Baltimore side you love Lamar, you play Derek Henry, but do you really want to
mess around with tight ends when you know Andrews and likely are both going to be kind of
tight end or bust situation.
Zayflowers.
They are one top 24.
But they're always tight end.
So I don't think they'll bust.
If it's tight end or bust, they're always going to be a tight end.
You meant touchdown or bust, idiot.
I did.
I didn't mean touchdown or bust.
Did I say tight end or bud?
Yes, you did.
Okay, that was pretty dumb.
Deflowers, though, one top 24 finish.
I wonder if you'd play him or D.K. McHaff against Sincy in that high over under.
Yeah.
It, this is my everlasting, every week struggle.
Oh, yeah, you have both those dudes.
Zay Flowers or D.K. Metcalf.
It's, D.K.M.K.F. is in my lineup right now, just based off of game script.
You want pieces of that Pittsburgh game.
I know what will happen because is D.K. Metcrap.
But process-wise, it still says I'm going to play him.
Yeah, you usually love playing guys against Cincinnati.
It's just try to play.
You do.
You do.
Try to play people against Cincinnati and against the Cowboys and don't watch.
Try it with the home.
Mecalf against.
He was three for 50 last time.
Against Cincinnati.
100 billion dollars, multiple draft picks.
Three for 50 against the world's worst defense.
Unbelievable.
Candy diet.
Kansas City, five and four.
Denver, eight and two, in Denver.
Kansas City favored by three and a half on the road here.
No respect, right?
Eight and two division leader.
Denver is over under 44.
Denver's not been playing good on one side of the ball.
I mean, their defense is absolutely outstanding.
They're shutting people down.
They are winning ball games for them.
But, I mean, they, you know, the last two weeks,
you're talking about putting up 18 points and 10 points.
The Chiefs have a higher point differential
at 5 and 4 than the 8 and 2
Denver Broncos.
The Chiefs we know are much better than 5 and 4
and I think we know that Denver's not an 8 and 2 team.
And no disrespect to them.
They are an 8 and 2 team,
but I just mean from a threat standpoint right now,
they are a little bit like Philly
and the fact that they have a good record,
but you want to see their offenses play better.
Bonix is weird because he's not getting pressured.
He's pressuring himself.
He's getting out of the pocket too soon.
He's throwing on the run for no reason.
He's only completing 6 to 1% of his passes,
despite being pressured the least in football.
If you want to know what the wise guys think of Kansas City,
they are currently the betting favorite for the Super Bowl.
It makes sense.
It's like what a wild world we had,
where those first three weeks, you're like, holy crap, is it done?
Are the Kansas City Chiefs?
Has it finally hit a point where they,
It can be stopped, and now they're five or four,
and they're the favorites to win the whole league.
Mahalms on pace for 4,400 yards and 32 passing touchdowns.
It has been very nice to have Rashi Rice back on this offense.
We're not sure if Worthy will be out there.
He's been limited in practice this week,
and he's only got one top 24 finish.
If he was out, is there a dart throw you care about?
Probably not against Denver.
Probably not.
It would be Thornton for me, but no.
now you're going to have kareem hunt all alone pretty much starting for kansas city but it's against
again the denver defense rb two yeah yeah yeah that's fair he's been he was rb 11 rb 16 last week you know
last week was the no pacheco 78% of the snaps only 13 opportunities but high likelihood of
scoring is it going to be harvey and bidet only or are we going to get a third is mclaughlin still on
that roster? Yeah, he might
be involved, but the
we had some more Sean Payton talking
about Harvey. I'll talk
about Pat Bryant, which was nice.
But Harvey is
like, this is
it. This is his
travion opportunity. R.J. Harvey's
a good player. And he's
excellent in the receiving game
as well. And I think
that's where he's going to have
to be utilized this week.
What are your thoughts on Cortland Sutton? I feel like
Would you rather start Kareem Hunt or R.J. Harvey in this game?
They both have the injury ahead of them.
Wow.
They're both playing tough defenses.
I'm on the R.J. Harvey side.
I think I'm on the Harvey side, yeah.
Three of our top 20 most popular starts-hit questions involve Harvey.
Harvey or Kamani Vidal is number four.
I'd go Vidal.
Harvey or Rashad White is number eight?
I'd go Harvey.
I'm okay. I'd go on Harvey there.
Harvey or Woody Marks is also on there.
I'd go Harvey.
I think it's Harvey there.
And then a flex question, Jameson Williams or RJ Harvey?
Harvey
Wow
I think I'm in on Harvey
Okay
I do you think
I think it's
like a 44 and a half point over under
two good defenses
I think that's the only threat
to all of this
production is that you get into
one of those 1615 type of games
you know I'm definitely worried about
Cortland Sutton
he's only average three receptions per game
honestly Sutton has been
basically Denver Metcalf
yeah yeah yeah
I mean it's been the case
not enough work
Not enough touchdowns.
On the season, he has been much better than D.K. Metcalfe, like through the first seven weeks,
you had two extremely disappointing games and five games where you're very, very happy.
But the trend of, like, the trend of six targets going to your number one guy who's got the money, it makes no sense.
Well, the catch percentage has been down to because Bo Nix has been one of the most inaccurate intermediate passers.
The last three games, if you plot that out for Sutton over the year, it's not impressive.
It's 45 for 600.
Now, like, if my confidence that Sutton gets it going over the second half versus DK is heavily on the Cortland Sutton side.
Okay.
All right.
Travis Kelsey.
Sure.
Just play him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll take a break.
We've got some more matchups.
Sunday night football, Monday night football, and a fantasy face-off.
You know, when I said fantasy face-off before the break, Jason gave me a little look.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like he knew.
I don't even know who it is.
Who is it this week?
Well, oh, is it?
I don't know.
It was a tie between Jason and I.
Yeah.
We went down, our tiebreakers were insane.
So close.
Because, like, I missed my two by one catch and then, I think, four passing yards.
I was seven total yards away from hitting everything.
So you guys should have just hit everything like I did.
So, yeah, it.
I'm going to this week.
It's a lot more fun when you do.
But so the tiebreaker just was that Jason
made us think that he had perished.
I'm worried about this show.
He was in a better place technically.
I'm worried about this one.
Romeo Dobbs would agree.
Because I got in, an owl asked me for my lineup,
which he does not ask the person.
Oh, no, did you?
Yeah, he's like, hey, can you just in case?
Yeah, just in case, in case what?
In case I can't see, read, breathe, we'll find out.
Stay tuned.
Nice.
Oh, the irony of thinking you were dead on Tuesday and maybe killing you on Friday.
You're just going to give me a piece of old tenderloin.
Eat up.
Food poisoning.
Before we jump, we're in the Sunday night game.
We're about to be.
I just, guys.
Remember when Henderson had three touchdowns last night?
The pure.
real joy is amazing. You had such a good night, Mike. Oh, man. I'm happy, man. I'm happy for you.
That was the best. That was the best. After the two, it was like, oh, we're done. I was driving
next to Mike on the, on the drive-in, and we were, I was matching his speed. He didn't see me for a
little while. And I looked over and I saw a happy person. I just saw a glow, a glow.
He has no resting angry face. He always has a resting angry face. Not today. Not today, baby.
It was impressive.
All right, Detroit, six and three, Philly, seven and two.
Here we go in Philly.
Yes.
This is a fun one.
Sunday night football, this will be great.
Philly minus two and a half, over under 46.5.
It's a pretty important game in terms of the NFC playoff picture.
The Detroit games this year, we've been, we've loved them.
I mean, they have been the third most points per game in the league in terms of combined total points in Detroit games.
I do think Philadelphia, we've said this this week, I've made my efforts to trade for him, it didn't work.
I do think A.J. Brown's going to get it going over the second half of the year. Jason, you made him your start of the week because of your confidence in A.J. Brown, the Lions defense, you know, I think you can beat them for some big plays here.
So, DeVante Smith, A.J. Brown, I play them with confidence.
lines giving up 32 fancy points a game to wide receivers.
So it's not very complicated from a start-sip perspective in this game.
Hertz, Barclay, play the big two wide outs.
You can dance with Goddard if you want to dance with the devil.
Yeah.
Would you rather have someone like Otten where you're a little bit more confident in the involvement?
Yeah.
Goddard's going to be high in the rankings because he's been getting it done.
but in terms of just the chance of a big whiff,
like a big swing and a miss,
it's more on the Goddard side than on.
I don't know the exact number.
Maybe Kyle has it,
but Jamir Gibbs is on the cusp of breaking like a total rushing touchdown record
at his age.
I think it's very, very close.
He's been awesome.
Three touchdowns last week.
You know, it's amazing to break a record like that
or be near a record like that when you're in a committee.
It's also amazing to be near a record like that when you're in a committee and you're an undersized back.
This isn't Derek Hintr. Touchdowns are the goal line, big body bruising guy. And this is like the little speedster.
Yeah, he gets listed out of weight that I don't agree with.
Weird. Too high or too low. Too low.
You think he is no longer 200 pounds. No, he's not 200 pounds.
He's probably 215. He's a very spelt young man.
I'm on raw, of course, Gibbs, of course.
Leporta, I think you need to monitor the back limitations and practice this week,
but if he's active, I'm okay.
You know, if you've been playing him, I'm okay with it.
But Jamo, he's been heating up.
They've been getting him the ball closer to the line of scrimmage.
Yes, yeah, his A dot has been much different as of recent, you know,
the past two games compared to the way that the game or the season started for him,
which that will turn into a much safer Jameson Williams with ceiling.
So the-
The yardage has been up there the last two weeks?
I think the difference is real.
The fact that it was talked about and then they put it into action.
And now we're at two weeks.
NBA jam rules are-
Was that conversation about, did that happen during the buy?
I think so.
So coming out of the buy much better.
Yeah, and then last week, obviously, the play-calling change where Dan Campbell took it over,
so he's actually, you know, facilitating what he wants to have happen.
Gives you a little bit more confidence in Jameson.
I still don't see him as a must start simply because he's got, you know, two good games in a row.
Would you play Matt Calf or Jameson?
I'd play Jameson.
I think I would go Matt Caff there against Cincinnati.
Yeah, it's actually, I'm looking at our Starts-State tool right now.
We have them 19 and 24, so Matt Caff is in the lead right now, just because
that matchup is so juicy, and the overrunder is a little higher.
They're favored, but it's close.
And if you've been burnt, like, if you've been burnt by Metcalf a bunch of weeks in a row,
I don't blame you for mixing it up here because I think the Sunday night game is going to be pretty fun.
We have a Monday night game between Dallas at 3, 5, and 1, and the Las Vegas Raiders,
who are 2 and 7, Vegas line, Dallas minus 3 and a half, the overruner is 50 and a half.
I have gotten the impression via Twitter and start sit tool in this office and other people's
lineups that I've seen.
there is a surprising amount of relying upon the Raiders going on for this week.
Yeah.
It's really relying upon the Cowboys defense.
Right, which I do, I recognize there's been a really, really good bet,
but also a good bet has been anti-Geno.
Yeah.
So I do, I think you are still, you're playing your odds, right,
that they should be able to have some success.
It's nice that they're out home.
It's nice that Dallas can't play defense.
but you're still playing some roulette, right?
Of course.
You're still, I mean, to have Brock Bowers come from the week he had off the injury dominant to a catch,
that is the Gino roulette, right?
And when you are now mixing in not established whiteouts like Trey Tucker or Jack Bess or Thornton
and established but retiring Tyler Lockett, it does add some fear into your brain.
These are not, these are lower probability plays,
but this week, if you need someone,
I both lock it.
I mean, I, I strapped on the,
the unattainium underpants for Tyler Lockett and Trey Tucker.
They're both in play.
The two weeks ago, the first week back with Brock Bowers,
that was against Jacksonville.
Good defense, but beatable.
Then it was on the road against Denver.
That one is like,
You expect more from Brock Bowers each and every week,
but it at least makes sense.
And now you're at home against Dallas.
I am facing Trey Tucker in a matchup.
Oh, that has to be hilariously terrifying.
I am simultaneously happy and afraid.
Yes.
I'm like, cool, I'm playing against Trey Tucker.
Also, he scored three times earlier this year.
Yeah, this is a, it's going to be really, really cool to see
because Dallas has added defensive pieces.
They had a buy week to implement it.
So they're coming off the buy,
and they're getting a mediocre, at best,
offense to face in the Raiders.
And so we're going to learn a lot this week
because if Gino goes out and looks great
and Trey Tucker has a good game
and Lockett's fine and Bowers' is,
then delicious, delicious.
The Cowboys still stink.
If the Cowboys are able to go from historically bad defense to
meh?
defense, which would be terrible.
We'll find out this week.
They gave up 27 against Arizona, but they did sack Chacobo
five times. Yeah, it will be, you're right.
We'll find out this week.
Las Vegas, they can't pressure you right now.
And Dak, your start of the week,
Lamb Pickens, Giovante, Ferguson.
Are we just playing your cowboys?
We did get the official word that Dalton Kincaid has been ruled out for week 11.
We thought that was coming, but that Khalil Shakir's ankle is, quote, in a good spot.
That's probably where all of our ankles are.
According to head coach, Sean McDermott, expect to see him out there.
All right?
I don't think we have any other updates, do we?
I don't see.
Tyler Lockett was limited on Thursday, but they're the Monday night game, so that's his Wednesday practice.
But still pay attention due to him being ready for ARP.
yes no all right have a good weekend everybody sorry
fantasy face off presented by prize picks
well uh jason's got a little fear going on right now
he gets to spin it
wheel of shame
All right. Let's see. So close last week.
Oh, Jason's mustache is on the wheel. Oh, gosh. Please. Just be a razor. Make him shame.
Oh, that would be so good.
Uh, rainy day.
Peace out. Peace out. Oh, like you. Like you did on. Yeah. Like I did. Oh, my gosh. What? He's bringing me a plate.
You got a plate of tinderloins here. Oh, my gosh. What is this raw beef? Salisbury steak.
Oh, these look disgusting. These aren't real.
Oh, those aren't real. Okay. I was like, do I have to eat? That's just a prop.
Oh, man.
What's real is your piece-out mask.
Oh, yeah, I won't see anything.
Yeah, we'll read your line up for you there, Jay.
You pieced out on us.
We'll piece out on you.
It kind of looks like rabbit ears.
A little bit.
I thought at first.
What in the world is that thing?
Oh, my gosh.
That's the finger.
There's not even holes.
There's no holes.
There's slits.
No.
We need to stay on Jason's camera right here.
Oh, my gosh.
Why in the world is that?
There's, I can barely breathe.
You've got a breath hole.
I think it only lets hair out.
Oh, peace out, bro.
Oh, yeah, I will be piecing out very soon.
We better get through the, have a tenderloin.
All right, quarterback.
No, no.
I'm going.
Joe Flacco.
Oh, baby.
I love it.
More than 262.5 passing.
Oh, I love it.
I'm going, this is gross.
I'm going, Gino, Gino Smith.
Okay.
I'm taking more than.
whatever his projection was because
223 and a half
passing yards. You said receiving yards,
but yes, passing her. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I
like that. Um, I'm going back to
the well on this one. We got
that is sensational.
At first, at first I really thought
it was on middle finger. Did you?
I thought we were just going straight
bird. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey,
oh. Uh, we got
uh, gill and abriel. Oh, okay.
That's going to be a less. Yeah.
No, you're thinking the wrong direction.
Okay.
32 and a half passing attempts.
Oh.
Okay.
So we're going to go the more.
All right.
He's going to have to throw the ball like 30 times in the second half.
My running back this week, Jekori Kroski Merritt.
Oh, oh.
That's a last.
Hold on, hold on.
I don't have a good vibe here.
This dude has not been getting it done.
I think the other guys are going to get more work.
32.5 rushing yards, I'm taking the less.
Yeah. That's his projection. It is.
I'm going. And he's been under that a lot.
I'm going to go with one that I like. This is probably the one I like the most this week.
It is Chase Brown. Oh, I already like it. I believe it's 19 and a half receiving yards.
That is correct. And I'm going more than that. I like it. He's been crushing that with.
No, that's a good one. I was able to jump in on this one a bit earlier on the week. We got R.J. Harvey, ladies and gentlemen.
at two and a half receptions.
I am taking the more.
All right.
Wide receiver?
It's Jason and Al Borland's guide.
Jerry Judy's.
No way.
No, wait.
What are you doing?
40.5 receiving yards.
I'm taking the more.
Okay.
You're going more?
I'm taking more with Judy.
Wow.
You did that on purpose.
This man.
Yep.
You were living recklessly.
I did it on purpose.
I got Gill and Gabriel.
This is going to be my green goblin.
I'm going with a player that I just,
I really, really, really have loved,
Taz Johnson.
What is his green goblin?
It's like, where am I?
19 and a half receiving yards.
19 and a half receiving yards.
What? Give me that.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going more.
Yeah, that's not bad.
I'm realizing I probably should have found a tire of the locket one,
but I got T. Higgins,
59 and a half receiving yards.
I'm taking the more.
Tight end, my green goblin, 19.5 receiving yards.
I'm taking the more.
It's Jake Ferguson.
Oh, 20 yards.
That's all he needs, huh?
Yeah, 19.5.
See, I got a higher line.
Mine's Zach Ertz.
I think he's at like 41 and a half receiving yards.
I love that speculative.
Well, because I'm doing it all from memory.
I can't see anything.
It's impressive.
And I'm ready to pass out.
I'll take less on 60 seconds of me surviving.
But yeah, I'm taking more than 41.5 receiving yards for Zach Ertz.
What was your goblin, Andy?
Ferguson.
Oh, yeah.
The 19.5.
Yeah.
I, we all, my green goblin is my tight end position as well.
It's T. McBride, T. McB. Oh, boy. We got five and a half receptions, boys. So we, uh, we should
probably double that this week. Probably doing okay. That was fantasy faceoff presented by
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Can I get one of them, Tinderloins, Jason? Yeah, this will be my final show.
All right, that'll do it for the fantasy footballers.
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It's not working, is it?
No.
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