Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 11 Studs & Duds + My Guy Redemption Tour - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/17

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Nov 17 2025. Week 11 fantasy football recap! LOTS of injury updates, best & worst performances, and a “My Guy” Redemption Tour. Plus, rest of season outlooks with the fantasy football playoffs approaching fast! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(05:00) Monday Punday(06:35) NFL News(18:00) Fantasy Studmuffins(18:05) QB Studs(21:30) RB Studs(25:25) WR Studs(29:00) TE Studs(31:45) Fantasy Duds(31:55) QB Duds(39:55) RB Duds(46:10) WR Duds(52:30) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Hello, welcome in. A little dirt on the end there. I don't know, man. It can't all be the same, Mike. Oh, I know it. Not all weeks are the same. Oh, this week.

Yeah, this was a week. This week sucked, man. This week was truly insane because I feel like it's, it's weighted very heavily. Like, this week, injury-wise, horrifically bad. For a lot of teams out there, horrifically bad. And then, but then, like, I mean, my team just crushed. Like, like, I don't, if you played Brissette and Michael Wilson, you were fine like me. That wasn't, that wasn't supposed to be the brag that it sounded like, it's more of the, there were many guys who went nuclear this weekend.

I saw it written out as week 11, W, E-A-K. Like, that's how, I mean, you can just look at, like, we play in median leagues. Meaning that those leagues are where you, you play where half of the league, what the source. score of half the league, you get a point for being on the... You're doing a real bad. I'm glad you took over that. Yeah, yeah. Thank you for jumping in. Hold up, hold up. Let me explain the unexplainable. But yeah, so every, every week there is a score of basically what the sixth best team scored. And it's usually around 125 points. Would you say for our league? That seems high. It's just the league average. Yeah. It's just the league

median, man. Not everybody plays in that type of format. I know, but I just say the sixth best. time it's just we're all having a good time here listen the point is is the average score in leagues is way down this week that's what the point was is the overall what was ours in our what is it projected right now like a hundred and eight yeah well i mean i think it might be lower than that yeah it's at 92 or so it's at it's at 92 right now and i think based on looking at the league there were it was a have and have not situation your team struggled none of your players scored points there were a lot there were like six or seven other teams in the same boat, which is going to allow Al Borland to get a stupid median win and continue to stave off

watering no matter how many points my team scores. Sorry, that became quite personal. But it was a it was weird. And like you said, there were injuries, there were big performances, but there were a lot of duds. There were some, you know, my guy redemption tour continued in a big way. I mean, George Kittled, Travion, and Jameson had big weeks. It's nice. Tett McMillan. Yeah, Tet got into the end zone twice. We were just talking about him needing to have that game, and he did. Jason's been on the Tet McMillan celebration tour for three or four weeks, and you got a monster game from him.

So there's some good to reflect on. We got all of your Monday punday submissions. You know, I don't know if you are aware of this, but I went out this week, and I traded everything for, you know, to go hard and win this week. you went all in. And so one of my decisions, one of my decisions was I went out and I traded away my third round pick for my choice of Roma Dunesay or Tet. You could have taken Tet? Yeah. But I feel like the man. I preferred Rome. I wanted Rome. He's, you know, he's been a top 10 one receiver. Well, at least this week, I feel real bad about it. Well, I didn't know you had the choice.

Yeah. Well, I've been, you've been the Tett McMillan. stand. Yeah. No, I chose to to make the offer for Rome. Yeah. Yeah. And now you are in a Coliseum sadness. Yeah. It'll get better. You had J.T. on by. You don't know what a week's supposed to feel. This is what it's like for everybody all the time. Jonathan Taylor leaves and my team's like, ah, okay, guys, we take this week off. Do you know how much heavy lifting he was doing? I mean, literally, every single player

on my team except for one scored five or fewer points. That's insane. I wonder if that's happened to a few other times you didn't notice because John and Taylor had 57 points. But we got all of your reactions and I will tell you it was at least four to five to one negative pun submissions because of the way this week went. To be holly and jolly. Right. No, so let's react with your submissions here.

Monday, Punday for Monday, November 17th, week 11. Here we go. Let's get sophisticated. All right. Well, Jason, I'll let you start it off there. Oh, all right. Well, Teteroa McMillions. Yes. Hooray McBride. And Yevion, Henderson. Treyvion. Henderson. Okay. What about Christian McCaff three? Yeah, yeah. And this guy. Oh, how about this?

Kenneth Runner the third. That's right. We knew it was going to happen, Mike. Yeah. Nico Ballin. Oh, Meat Higgins is back. Yeah, and Travis E.T.N. Zone. Oh, and to infinity, and bejean. And the bad week.

Oh, no. Sham Darnold? And same Darnold. Uh-huh. Amun-Raw St. Clown. How dare you? Ameca.

Ekeke? What is happening? Justin Hurtbert. R.J. Hardley. And Ricky disappear, Saul. That's a good one. Arronday Sadsden. Yeah, his teammate's sad, McConkey.

Yeah, yeah. Woody farts? I, you know, you got a lot of carry. Lame Marge action Yeah, this is the best one Quinshawn Butkins DeVote a whiff And get a whiff of that Buckkins

Cade Forgotten Oh man Kade forgotten Thank you Instagram at Fantasy Footballers At the FF Ballers on X Thank you for your Good work

Whoever put that one in Not bad, right? I don't know how they think of these things. No. It honestly takes a lot of effort for me not to put all, it's all butt and parts and poop and yeah.

Children out there, we would never. We would never. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league presented by progressive insurance. You see median score you don't break this down a little bit.

The sixth highest team. If you take the top five, divide back seven. Man, it was great because you took over. You just, I thought it was important for the people to understand.

You're like, get out of the way I got this. People still don't understand what it is. No, no clue. Goodness, no. Well, didn't think we'd have this happening. Oh, man.

The league is now looking into a spitting incident that took place between Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey. Jamar Chase was unaware that this game was being filmed. I mean, how many cameras you got on the... Oh, I didn't spit. No, I didn't do that. I don't do that.

Yeah, well... Yeah, you did, dude. This wasn't AI. I mean... So the... He could miss a game. I think he will, actually. Yeah, it, Jalen, if you missed it, Jamar Chase and Jailon Ramsey got the better of Jamar Chase all day. And Chase was getting frustrated. They're, you know, things are getting heated. He ends up...

Chase grabs Ramsey by the face mask. And like, it's screaming at him. I was a little surprised that no, there was no flags there, but they let that one go. And then like two plays later, Ramsey does, it looks like what is the same thing, like grabs Chase's mask, but he also does a punch motion. He gets booted right away. And you're like, oh, well, I guess, I guess Jamar Chase got the better of Ramsey. And now, now there's videos of Chase's. Yeah, he spit on him. Pretty clearly spitting on Jalen Ramsey. And because explain what spitting on someone is so when you got you got this saliva and it's in your mouth but sometimes you usually swallow it but then you usually sometimes yeah sometimes but then like

if you were to do the opposite yeah that and then it goes out that's what jamaar chase did like because ramsie got kicked out of the game and jimar chase didn't i would guess he will because they normally call that sometimes if you get kicked out it's the game served Yes. Yeah. So I'm guessing that Jamar will probably end up missing a game. All right. Well, we've avoided it long enough. It's injury assault

time. Before the weekend began. Sam LaPorta We should have known it was coming. Sam Laporta placed on IR with a back injury, so he's missing at least four games. That escalated quickly. Yeah, they went from like Wednesday, you're kind of limited. Goodbye. His back is hurting,

and he's not going to play for a month. J.K. Dobbins also placed on IR. It was a concern it was a list frank injury it is a hip drop tackled to a list frank and it seems like it will be season ending certainly for fantasy purposes yeah underwent surgery

they are I think they're hopeful that if they were to make the Super Bowl which is he could yeah I saw that language too but it's just that come on what if you make it to the Super Bowl it's because RJ Harvey took off but the Laporta injury

especially again we we saw the lion's offense didn't do anything and Jameson Williams still had a monster game so Leporta being out the priority to give I mean it's like the most plain thing to see the routes have changed I mean that Jameson Williams is getting the ball

on crossers yes where he's faster than everybody this is how if you only threw the ball deep only through the ball deep to Jalen Waddle that's what they were doing with Jameson Williams to begin the year when you get Jaylon Waddle across the middle he's faster than everybody use the speed

Jalen Warren was evaluated for an ankle injury he said this morning he could have returned. Oh. But Kenneth Gainwell got the majority of the snaps after the injury and went crazy again. Gainwell looked great. He really did. 26 fantasy points for Old Al Borland stupid pants over there. Aaron Rogers exited early with a left wrist injury, didn't return.

Undergoing tests, I heard some concern of a slight fracture. This is left wrist. Yeah, it's his non-throwing arm. He's pushing to play, but we'll have to wait and see. We had. She had a Mason Rudolph's stash. Oh, is he got a mustache? It has to make him look better than what he looked like before.

It looked like someone who's trying to disguise themselves. I'm not Mason Rudolph. No, no. I'm Jason Rudolph. Drake London was injured, but is not believed to have suffered a major knee injury. That's good news, except Michael Panics in the same game. There were multiple reports yesterday that said, it's not believe that he suffered a major knee injury and now this morning

it's looking season ending knee injury potentially for Michael Pinnock's he's seeking a second opinion which is always a bad sign and it's going to be Kirk Cousins probably who I have confidence can lose as much as Michael Pinnock's I think he can too but I will say this it's it feels very unfair for Kirk Cousins where it's like he's going to get now his second start and last time he had no Drake London for that start now it's like Oh, no. Drake, take a week off. You know, this is not a major knee injury, but like...

Let's make Cousins look bad. It's going to be so bad. I forgot about that. Yeah. I would have a little bit of concern that, like, it was just really good for Drake Lennon with Michael Pinnock's. Whether the team, like he had back-to-back number one weeks, Michael Pinnock's, that's where he goes with the football. It's probably not the best thing to win the game, is my thought. And Kirk Cousins is probably going to spread the ball around at least a little bit more.

Like, not that you would binge Drake London. It's just when you're cruising at number one, you kind of don't want to change. No, don't love it. Don't love it for Bejohn, because I think the offense is just worse with cousins. Josh. You realize five of the last six games for Drake London,

he has been a top five wide receiver on the week. That's exactly it. I don't think it stays there. No. Josh Jacobs. Just taking a look at Jason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exited early with the left knee injury, undergoing more tests.

He exited twice. Yeah, he tried to come back and then left again. They also believe he avoided a significant injury. I hope it's not the same people we're talking about panics. That doesn't mean you don't miss time. It just means you don't miss the season. Jordan Love evaluated for a concussion, came back to the game. Calvin Ridley came back for a minute and broke his fibula.

Oh, man. He's out for the season. Oh, it was a bummer. Chimray D.K. Left with a concussion. It was ruled out at halftime. I even think Iow Manor got hurt in this game. Everyone got hurt.

Camani Vidal? Yeah. I mean... It was the red light week. Yeah, you hate to say. He didn't return thigh injury. That whole team, I mean, they didn't make the trip. No.

I mean, that was the bloodbath of the week. The charges got shellacked. And Justin Herbert was just getting beat up. Yeah. That offensive line is, there isn't one. Is that the offensive line that Pat McAfee was, I think that's the one that he was highlighting. Did you see that clip?

I mean, because they, when they introduced the offensive linemen, they show their PFF ranks. Oh, yeah. And he went through the PFF ranks on the chargers. And it was literally, it was like, and he did it in a really funny way, too. He's like, all right, you got Mackay Beckton here, 31 of 32. Then you got this guy, 29 of 29.

Then you got this guy, he's 29 of 30. Like the offensive line, or lack thereof, now you have Justin Herbert that is getting... Yeah, I mean, Herbert got knocked out right before halftime. I mean, he got... This thing with a full pile drive

into the ground. Looked like he might have been shaking up. He came back, but, I mean, he was getting beat up. Good time for a bye week. Yeah. We have Dylan Gabriel, leaving with a concussion where... And then Shadour Sanders comes in.

Oh, we got to see... That was the event. Do you realize? Did you see the news this morning? Justine Anderson reporting? That was the... It's got to be very popular. positive for Soudoir Sanders. She seems to like him. It was the very first

snaps he's ever had with any of the first team offensive players. Yeah. So that's cool to do out there in the fourth. And I get it, you know, Stefansky that Dylan Gabriel, aka Gillen Dabriel, is your guy. But you still might want the backup QB to get some snaps and get some rocks. No, it's ridiculous. That seems very weird. But it's a good chance that he's going to start again this week. Kyle is reporting other backup QB, so that's pretty normal. I would think that if you have two rookies that you would want to at least get Sanders some of the reps. Yeah, it's very normal for your backup to not be taking first team reps.

That makes sense. But it's not very normal for your starter to be Dylan Gabriel. Right. You know what I mean? So like if that is your starter, you know at some point you're going to see the other guy. We have an update. Drake London suffered a PCL sprain. Okay.

So he's out this week and potentially more. Dick Gummy. Is he on any of your teams? Yeah, it's my main dynasty wide receiver. How'd that league go? I didn't look at, did you win that? Better than, I mean, nothing could. Yeah, I'm going to win there, but, yeah, nothing could have gone as bad as league

record. The other injury news, because there's more. Amari DiMarcato exited super early in the Cardinals game. Probably would have been pretty good, considering there were 57 pass attempts, and he would have caught some of them. Yeah, maybe. Instead, 18 of those went to Michael's. Michael Wilson. Tyler Higby, ankle injury. That's one you might want to keep a little bit

of an eye on because the snap counts between Terrence Ferguson, the rookie tight end who I like a lot and Higby were both around the 40% mark. And Colby was the one who ended up with a touchdown. Oh, yeah, you're right. Revenge game. Yeah, Bachel Tudin. He was good and then left with an ankle injury. That one, too, it will be, I'll have to like break some more things down, look more into it. Because Tudin was getting a lot of work. Like he was playing. playing over E. It was very frustrating.

The start of the week by somebody this week. Or maybe not. Maybe. I don't know. Let's say, yeah, because it was great. Yeah, I was feeling bad about that because of the Tootin involvement, but Jackson Darts still in Concussion Protocol, C.J. Stroud, probably not ready to return. Maybe he won't be ready to return until they lose.

Goodness. That might be it. There were some dots in that game by Davis Mills to win the game. I know he wasn't great the whole time. I'm just saying big play, big throws, sideline ball to Nico. Nico is really good at football. It's forever ago, but it's like General Mills, before they drafted Stroud, he seemed like a guy who might get a chance to actually be a starter.

And I think his neck looks, it doesn't look longer. Just the same length? He's not growing anymore. Same or less. Maybe did some shoulder work. I mean, gravity. He's just getting older. You know what?

He needs to just, he needs to work out only his traps. Yeah, traps only. Clubs only. All right. That was news and note. sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers, not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. We're taking a break. Well needed.

And we'll be back with the studs. All right. It wasn't all bad. This week's Fantasy Stud Muffins, presented by Lowe's. well this is this one this is the week you want if you got him and the week you fear if you're facing him it's josh allen for all of the touchdowns six touchdowns yeah 303 through the air, six for 40 and three on the ground. This game was drunk because, first of all, the game went back and forth, lead change every drive for the majority of the game. It was incredible football.

But from a fantasy perspective, you're telling me Josh Allen has six touchdowns. You're telling me Baker has a great game. And the bills score 44 points and the buck scored 32 points. And you're like, but you can't, but. You're like a... Where did it go? Abuka, bad game. Tess, Tess, bad game.

Collis cheer? Bad game. Nothing. Zero. Like, anybody you would start had a bad game with 70, like, points scored out. Where did they go? Like, I was like, it makes no sense. Where are the points?

You're just leaking out the bucket. Horrible. Everybody. It makes no sense. No, you're right. Well, one of the catches, the 42-yard touchdown was to a player who I can't remember or name right now for the bills because they mixed up their entire

wide receiver room. Shavers? Yeah. Keanan Coleman's benching. Yeah, Keaum was Gabe Davis now, Star. He's like, I've been here the whole time. Tyrell Shavers. Yeah.

You know, spot start of the week. I'm sure if you go back to the tape, you'll find that. Josh Allen, 42 fantasy points. Bryce Young, 31 fantasy points. Okay. See, just throw touchdowns at 10. Yeah, and you get fancy points. I've been trying to tell you.

Jacoby Brissette broke the regular season record for total completions in a game with 47. Not the Cardinals record. No, no, no, the NFL record. The NFL record. 57. When you go 47 for 57 for 452 yards and three touchdowns and you get blasted, the Cardinals were blown out, I will not be surprised if there are firings this week. I mean, it was already reported that they are safe.

I got bad news for you. Well, no, I don't mean like Gannon. I just mean a fall guy. I just mean a coordinator, maybe special teams after that 98-yard kickoff return. Maybe we toss a couple of assistants into the trash can. I hate this team. I hate this team. I hate them so much.

Yeah, they are the worst. Brissette now in five starts has he's been a quarterback one. every single one of them. He's been great. He didn't have Harrison. So he turned Michael Wilson into the league leader in total receiving yards in a game. Nobody's had more than 185. Michael Wilson. Yeah. Wild. I made a very late pivot from Luther Burden to Michael Wilson this year. Very late.

I don't remember who we said Wilson over on the show. I think we brought him up quite a bit. We brought him up as just. I mean, it was nasty, but holy crap. Cast it beautiful. Yeah. Justin Fields with 19 fancy points. And Brock Purdy back from injury. Cardinals are the perfect foil to get that team going.

Brock Purdy loves George so much. Yeah, Mike's been waiting for this for so long. Oh, man. Running backs, top scores of the week, Sean Tucker, who looked amazing. We brought him up as like, dude, this is going to happen at some point in time. It was, Rashad's been that bad. have to give him the work. And what was more impressive to me was not just the between the tackles

running. It's the fact he looked so fast in the receiving game up the right side of the field on that touchdown. They got him the ball in space another time. Hard to bring down super fast. This is where the points went for the Buccaneers. Sean Tucker said, give me that.

And he was great, but it's such a it's the perfect example of like Sean Tucker's life. It's like, ah, great, he's overtaking and then Bucky's going to come back. Right to the bench. Yeah. Right to the bench. CMC keeps going. I think somebody tweeted directly at Hitman. All your dudes are doing it this week. Yeah. CMC. Travion back to back.

And I mean, long ago, Sean Tucker was my dude. Yeah. You're on fire right now. Yeah. This is it, guys. I got to leave. Yeah, you got to, you got to. That's it for me. Yeah. Goodbye everybody. Tucker McCaffrey Henderson, Bejohn back into the end zone. He heard what we said about how many more touchdowns Trayvion had than him on the year. He's like, Alger's still got one. Give me two more. We'll see what happens with Kirk Cousins. Gainabal had the big game.

E.T.N. ended up with two scores. Derek Henry looked great against Cleveland and ended up over 101. A. Chan, Unstoppable. Even when he's having a bad game, he's not going to in there. It's amazing. I don't think he can have a bad game.

Boy, he got a big old garbagey last second one of those, you throw it to the guy when the clock's running out and he just gets to run a bunch of yards. That was nice. James Cook, got into the end zone in the receiving game. Nice, nice game. They play on Thursday. And then there was a drive in this game for Seattle where it was all Charbonnet and Halani. And I sent Mike a note and I was like, what is happening with Ken Walker? This is the least reliable player ever. And Walker was already very efficient on the day. Now 16 for 67 and scored. And they and caught passes. I mean he had

he had the bulk of the work. This is why you had a week of weeks, Mike. We bring him up as the only, the only bruise upon your current hot streak and he comes out and puts up 20. Yeah, you just, I mean, Sam Darnold, but yeah, four interceptions. Like Sam Darnold was not playing well. He was not seeing the field. And it still took until like this, like, they almost won this game. They missed a field goal as the clock expired to win this game, 19, or they lost 19 to 21. Sam Darnel's playing terrible, and it took until the second half for them to finally be like, well, fine.

Let's try this. Okay, fine. We'll let Ken Walker go. Oh, what happened? And you know what? Right back to the bench. He must do something on the sideline every game. It's so weird.

It seems like unlikable for some reason, but he had a great fantasy day. Jemir Gibbs wasn't good on the ground. round was great in space again 5 for 107 in the receiving game. Devin Singletary scored twice even though Tracy doubled up the rushing yardage. Yeah, Tracy looked good. They both looked good.

They used Devin Singletary more in the short yardage area so he's not going to be quite as efficient but like around the goal line Tracy hasn't had a carry inside the five yard line all season. Devon Singletary has four. So it seems like that's more their plan. Kyran back into the end zone because that's what he

does Chase Brown, 18 for 99. The My Guy Redemption Tour includes Chase Brown at wide receiver. The My Guy Redemption Tour includes Teteroa McMillan, 8 for 130 and 2. This was the definitive kind of explosion game for Tett McMillan on the year. And it seems that when you throw him the football, good things happen. Yeah, he's really good. Michael Wilson. We said it, 15 for 185.

I don't think we were expecting. Not that. No. 18 targets? You were basically making the argument that Brissette's going to go out there and throw for whatever. He throws for 250 yards. 250 minimum.

If he throws for 250, the majority of that probably goes to Michael Wilson. You didn't know he was going to throw for almost 500 yards. No, and in the way the Cardinals' defense is playing, he will need to do that in order to keep them within 20. Freaking stupid team. Nico Collins 9 for 92 and 1? Yes, yes. He is, his target share is up with Davis Mills, 5%.

Get him going, man. His yardage is up, almost double. His fantasy points, it's been great. Three weeks of double, I'm sorry, his last four games, double digit targets. Because he's really good and bigger than everybody. Yeah. Get him going. This was the guy we said to play, if you're playing a Packers wideout, two touchdowns for Christian Watson.

And they were, that's second one. That was, both of them. Oh, yeah, they were. There was the one in the corner and then the Watson was the guy right That is like It was dog mode Yeah he had the one

The dog mode one in the corner and was he the guy Where the ball seemed to just go through like so many hands and he Catching that ball Is almost impossible when you're trying He is great Yeah he's great games there JMO 4 for 88 and a touchdown again

He has been a top 10 wide receiver Two straight weeks Top 16 three straight. He has scored in three straight. He is getting targets. He is part of the offense. And with Sam Laporta out, it just adds this floor, I think, that exists now for Jamo. I mean, he gets the ball in the rushing game a little bit. I would not dare to promise you who will be a league winner, but there's the window is cracked open for it. Yeah, and the schedule looks good. The Giants coming up this week. And then they play Dallas in three weeks. You know he's

going to score there. Yeah. Yeah. The Debo Samuel experience is good this week. Seven for 74 and a touchdown. Mariotta played well. Again, he kind of goes out there and Jacoby Brissette's it a little bit. JSN, 12 targets, 9 for 101.5. Didn't score on this one on pace for nearly 2,000 yards. Gets Tennessee

next week. You're going to keep playing him. And then Drake London was 7 for 119, but you're not going to have him for a bit. And I don't know who's catching the ball there. Find the Michael Wilson for Atlanta. Does it exist? I don't think so.

Yeah. We know it won't be Kyle Pitts still. Yeah. Somehow. I mean, Mooney and Pets, they will get the majority of the receiving yards. Yeah, Mooney, Mooney would be the one to, I mean, because Cousins has had given him some games before. Ooh, what are we getting, is it Cadill Hodge time?

Mm. All right. Don't they, do they, they don't have Ray Ray anymore, do they? No, no. Okay. Hey, Tray McBride loves Jacoby Brissette. Yeah, he does. Another week atop the tight-in ranks. Because Jacoby realizes that the best tight-end in football

can also catch touchdowns. It doesn't just have to be yards. Kyle Murray-style for him can also get touchdowns. I think it's more that Bursad's able to throw touchdowns. Yeah, possibly. He has scored in five consecutive games through the air.

And that was six touchdowns in five games. Tide in two, three, six, one-one. Double-digit targets in four of five. And the one he didn't, was it's really good really really good George Kittle Travis Kelsey

Mark Andrews with the 35-yard rushing touchdown where he looked so fast like he gave all of his energy for that play it was a pretty clever he was running the tush push but it was a fake tush push

and a rollout and man 35 it's a kind of play that if it gets grown up you're like that's the dumbest play call I've ever seen yes but when it works you're like that's the smartest thing I've ever seen We care about A.J. Barner's 11 targets. 10 for 70 for A.J. Barner. Maybe. I mean, keep an eye on it.

You know, I mean, he was the, what, the tight end 12, two weeks ago? He's got, I mean, maybe some waiver talk tomorrow about A.J. Barner? Maybe. Maybe. And the most important tight end of the week was Darnel Washington. I can't tell you how many times I've watched the play. If you haven't seen the play, go to X and just search. Darnel Washington, you'll see it. It is the coolest most dog play of all time. I mean, he just, he takes the souls of three other men. How are the defenders so small? He is,

he is enormous. He is too big. He's too big for football. He's like 300 pounds. He should be illegal. That's as close to Shaq. Why is it taken three years for this to happen? Like, He was such a fascinating prospect, you know, back in 2023. Friar Meuse. Well, and they, and they like using him as an offensive lineman as a blocker because he is a man. You get him on the flats and people are just bouncing off of you. Yeah. Yeah. Just punish D.Bs watching a small cornerback try to have to tackle that man.

It's just fun. It's just entertainment. I think he had like a third and 16. as well, that there was a DB just holding his foot, and he leaps through the air, like pulling that guy forward with him for the first down. Before we move on to Duds, Jason, I do need to check on something because I saw it with my eyes and I don't know if you're ready to do it, but Colson Loveland. Colson Loveland in the middle of the field.

Yeah, he broke through some tackles. He looked like he fell forward. Doggson, Doglin. Where are we with Katston Doglin, man? Katston Doglin. I'll go Colston Loveland Okay

All right Let's talk Duds Pooped in his big boy pants Everyone else All of the other players we didn't name Yeah I think I saw more Lamar Jackson pun submissions than anything else That game

Honestly both the Both AFC North games the, I mean, Derek Henry, I guess, and Gainwell, but not many people played Gainwell. Both of those games. Yeah, you didn't go what you wanted at all. Were wild. I mean, the Cleveland Browns were, they were hanging tough with the Baltimore Ravens. I got a message on X, and I guess I'll just apologize for the answer.

Oh, no. I guess. I mean, did you say play Lamar? It was Lamar or Jacoby. And it was like, come on, of course. And someone said, someone said Lamar, Jacoby, I think, Jacoby might have a better floor, is what they said. And I go, I always, always play Lamar.

Yes. You always play Lamar. What this we didn't work out at all. What an idioty. I know, I'm dumb. Lamar, yeah, just 193 passing yards, barely ran the ball. You see Miles Garrett has more sacks than like five different teams. More than the Ravens.

He's got more sacks. He's got the same amount of sacks as the Ravens team. Fifteen. He's all pays for 25 and a half. Their defense is, it's really, I think it's the best defense I've ever seen on a bad team. Because if you're that good, if you're that good of a defense, your team is good. But that's how bad they're off. I almost pivoted off of them five times this week to other defenses.

And I just, you know, whatever, the matchup situation. The Browns? Yeah, I have the Browns. And they're playing Baltimore. And I'm like, well, you know, maybe I should play Dallas against Vegas. Like I even got there or Chicago against Minnesota or Minnesota against Chicago. I had probably five claims in it and I just kept cancel them. going like, I don't want to lose the Cleveland defense.

And like, yeah, I just showed that it can still work against a good team. I did the same thing with Cleveland is like, I don't want to drop them. But there's no way. I can't play these guys against the Baltimore Ravens. I know, I'll play the Chargers against Jacksonville. Oh, no. That's about a 20 point swing. Oh, no, that's what happened?

They were, the Chargers were negative in the format that I played there. There is matchups and there's talent and sometimes it just worked. out they scored, obviously Cleveland did. Amar Jackson didn't do much. Jalen Hurts didn't do much. Had a rushing touchdown, no passing touchdowns. That game, so I want, I want this to be the example for people because, you know, we're fantasy. We want offense. We, you know, we joke about not wanting defense and low scoring games. Sometimes there are low scoring games where the offenses suck. But every now and then you have an NFL game where two defenses look so incredible that they are shutting down the

offenses and that's the classic example given of like a defensive battle that is awesome to watch and I present this as Exhibit A in no it's not no it's not because those two defenses they were awesome they were incredible I mean the Eagles defense the lines defense they showed up they showed heart they showed talent and skill and that game stunk man we know what can I enjoyed that can I submit a proposal to you I'll allow you to submit it. Dom-related proposal. Okay.

If you're going to get that game, can we have it snowing? Yes. Absolutely. Can it be howling winds and snow and like mud everywhere? Well, see, that is part of the problem. Part of the problem for the week, it was howling winds in a lot of games this week. We've talked about it before. Rain doesn't really affect the passing game that much.

Unless it's pouring. Yeah, unless it's pouring. wind is really the thing that affects wind earthquakes right right i think um hurricanes a tornado tornadoes are bad terrible those always but what is what is jared goff's body made out of where he just like the cold i mean he seems like he plays well indoors but you put him in any sort of i mean he's a california boy i know what that's one but he just he was so bad he's surfing in the sunshine man he's so bad he's surfing in the sunshine man last night. He was under pressure. I mean, that's always been, even when he wasn't.

Go look at Green Bay tape a week ago. There's just no way to do anything. There's not. Philadelphia's defense, they're going to win another Super Bowl with the worst offense. And AJ Brown will be like, I want out after two rings. That's what's going to happen. That defense is. They're that good. And if their offense, see, Hertz can do enough in the playoffs to make a player or two down the field to Devante Smith or Brown. And then you're happy. So a friend of the show, Rich Rebar, tweeted this out. So the Eagles are now averaging 6.4 passing plays per game of 10 or more yards. That is ahead of only the Jets at 6.3. I think I read something and I'll butcher the exact

quote if you want to find it, Kyle. It was basically last night's game was the worst EPA per play for a Philadelphia Eagles game in like three years on offense. And it was the best defensive EPA per play in three years for the Eagles. So literally, again masking all the problems we do have a little bit of breaking news bad news yeah that is that actually is big news eagles five sorry about this if i mentioned the super bowl uh lane johnson suffered a liz frank injury it is not expected to be season ending but he might go to the i r well yeah i mean that's the injury that jk daubbins has which he just had to have surgery for maybe

this one's not going to be surgery but um that's bad yeah lane is uh great kind of important. Yeah, Jared Goff was 14 for 37, by the way. Oh, that was the... He was so bad. That was so bad. I mean, he couldn't connect with Omina Ross St. Brown to save his life. No, he couldn't.

No, he couldn't. And that killed people. And they are always in sync. I mean, they were like mind-melded, and every pass was uncatchable. Speaking of uncatchable, nine was not very good. No. No, no. J.J. McCarthy was...

He had nine turnovers in his last four. starts. Is that count for anything? J.J. McCarty was not good. And on top of that, the Minnesota Vikings receivers were not good either. There were a couple big drops. There were multiple huge drops where maybe they have gotten to the point where they're just so shocked that the ball is actually anywhere near their hands.

They're like, whoa, whoa. No, I think it's, I think McCarthy's been a bottom third quarterback at best. Yeah, he has been. Very, very disappointing. You look, 52% completion percentage, 56% completion percentage, 48, and this week 50. I mean, that's... Unacceptable.

Yeah, you can't win games when you can't complete 60 plus percent of your passes. And then Mahomes, not good this week. Caleb Williams, I mean, Jason said it. It's everyone else. Matthew Stafford, you know, he threw for two, but it wasn't a big fantasy week again. and right now the regular season MVP. Is this the most recent odds, Kyle? Correct.

Matthew Stafford plus 135. Drake May plus 220. Josh Allen plus 500. Patrick Mahomes plus 550. Stafford in the lead. Yeah, and May by quite a bit. Let's get Drake May up there. He's right there.

He's getting the easy schedule criticism right now. Drake May? Yeah, because the Patriots have the easiest schedule. in the league. Like, if you look at all their matchups, so the reason they're nine and two is they don't play nobody. That's what else are you supposed to do? It's fair, but he has looked

incredible. He's looked like perfection. Yeah, we'll see what happens with some bigger matchups, but we'll take a break. We'll come back with some running back duds. Probably unfair to call him Quinn Sean Butkins, but it was...

And it doesn't make sense. I mean, it was 17 for 59. And their offense was their offense. But this shows the limitations of Judkins in the running back starter category when you play for Cleveland, and now you might have Shadour. I know the recipe.

I'm not a defensive coordinator, and I know what to do. And it's to stop this guy and let everybody else be themselves. I'm saying what is wild about it is, like in the second half, the Cleveland Browns, I'm trying to remember, I think it was 16 to 10.

it's like the browns were winning and my my fear for judkins was game script like if the ravens get out to a two-scored lead we're going to see someone else at the running back position catching passes and judkins won't be on the field he was on the field they were winning and somehow 17 carries and he wasn't bad with it it's just one of those things where because they weren't down and they weren't passing he didn't have a reception he didn't get a touchdown so it's like it's it's a normal game yeah yeah briefs hall was okay 14 for 58 didn't score did everything he could the passes i want to talk about rj harvey yeah he was he's in the duds right and i saw a million puns submitted about rj harvey um first game without daubbins j j j zacharison tweeted this 65% of the running back rushes 9% target chair he played 38 snaps jilluma glofflin and uh bidet tied for second with eight he was 11 for 30 he didn't do much with him Three for 20 in the receiving game, no touchdowns. I guess if that, because Mike, you made the point,

like if those numbers continue, right, if you get all those snaps and those rushes, it's going to be, it'll work out fine. 65% of the attempts in a 10% target share, like, good things will happen. That's very good. I guess I do always worry about the impatience of the grumpiest man alive,

and he is weird and uses other backs. So it's like if somebody gets going in a game, does he stay with them? I don't know. The utilization was fantastic. They beat the Chiefs in a, you know, in a divisional matchup. And I, they're going to buy, coming out of the buy, I think you're going to see even more R.J. Harvey.

And I will, I will love to have him down the stretch. I will point out that championship week is against the Chiefs again. Because it's, you know, the Chiefs have shut down pretty much everybody. It's very difficult to, uh, I mean, did you guys? Did you see Sean Payton get truck sticks by? the ref. Yes. Oh, I did not.

Oh, yeah. Sounds great. And then got a flag called on him. Yeah. Can I respect the coach and hate the guy? Sure. Absolutely. Yeah, sure.

Because I do. I mean, you know, championship week, that could be tough here. Well, you guys were dead on. I like it. I think RJ Harvey is going to be very solid for the next month after the by week. You guys were dead on about the work. workload, Woody Marks, 18 for 44, Nick Chub just three. It didn't work out, but the work was there.

Yeah, it didn't work out on the character. Yeah, 18 for 44, wow. David Montgomery, 6 for 27. You're always playing a little roulette with Monty, especially against Philly, my goodness. David, and... I wouldn't have started. Like, are... I just kidding.

I had to start him. I'm just kidding. You had a bye week. I'm going to guess 9.6 last week. two weeks ago. Montgomery feels like not a very good play. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. And again, the play calling, we need to be paying attention to recent trends with Dan Campbell too. And like it seemed like Monty's Dan Campbell's guy, right? So we need to watch the

utilization right now with the play calling change. Obviously, it was Philly. But we all know that Jamir Gibbs, you need to have that acceleration and that big playability in a game that's a dog fight. Yeah, I think the fact that it was Philly and it was a very, very tough defense, they just focused on, hey, we've got to have Gibbs out there more and more and more. I think in different types of matchups, like we saw the week prior, where I believe both Gibbs and Monty got 15 carries apiece. This was just one of those, like nothing is working. The past game doesn't work. We have to get Gibbs out there.

Mike, the Ken Walker game was good. The Charbonnet game was bad. And so were Tony Pollard and Tage Spears, who seem soups irrelevant on. that roster right now where it just like a heat check on walker where are you guys and it was a huge game but you know since the by week he's getting more snaps and more opportunities the last month 17 opportunities 13 15 19 i i think my position on walker is that Tennessee next week there's a law of averages with the touchdowns that were it was working against him right like jason said he's got to do it from 15 to 20 yards out he can do that

But he didn't have to this week He got out his was inside the five Yeah so so I think I'm more optimistic about him ending up with a touchdown here there I'm still not optimistic that the utilization will satisfy anyone It was funny that his carry inside the five

If you if you weren't watching the game He also had one call back They were yeah They were in like a super hurry up mode They had to rush Oh like keep them on the field Yeah I mean it was funny when I'm watching that I was like they're gonna be so pissed

because they can't take... What's he doing out there? They can't put Charbonnet in the way they want to. They had to keep him out there, and oh my gosh, it couldn't work. Someone take a knee. Act like you're hurt. Ken Walker. I mean, incredible.

He could score touchdowns. So, I mean, still like terrified RB2-3 category. Okay. Yeah, I think you can start him, though. If you're getting around 15 opportunities a week... Don't say that out loud. Yeah. Say that you heard about a friend of yours that might start him.

Yeah, no, I have someone that I know who might be forced into it, and you definitely shouldn't play him, but you can start it. Okay, all right. We'll throw the panic meter out here in the wide receiver room, see if you're worried about anybody because there's some names. Jamar Chase was bad. Three for 30, got shut down by Ramsey. And now Mike gets suspended for the New England game.

Would have to go to Baltimore in the next one. And then in Buffalo for the next one, I'm not saying trade him. I'm just saying it could be a rough stretch. It'll be fine. But it probably won't be. Ladd-McConkey Cued and Keenan they were like

and Gadsden We were like Herbert It was the Chargers They got They spread their legs Uh oh And the Jax just punted I mean right

Right in the gnarves Right in the nose They got straight full Booted Booted both of them I mean You must have a wide foot Yes exactly

This is where you went huh I mean that's what happened They That's not not real. I mean, I'm just saying. I get what you're saying. Andy, we knew when he was discussing median that we were going to have problems. We were on a ride today. Yes. I had a bad weekend. Oh, yeah, you did. He's like, I'm going to get in there on the Monday show and we're going to go full spread boot analogy. Amon Ra 2 for 42 on 12 targets. Insane. Insane. 12 targets

for Alman Ra is normally 11 catches. Yeah. They were just off. And this was the fewest catches on 12 targets since Josh Dotson in 2017 and if I had the old clip I'd play it while we could but name I haven't heard in a while no Emeka Abuka nine targets

five catches 40 yards Oh my gosh Wow We found it impressive Yeah yeah whatever He's gonna get nine plus targets The rest of the year I'm okay with that but it was a down week

Adunzee 2 for 41 led the team in targets I try to find some silver line Eddie with six yeah Rashi Rai six for 38 we talked about Mahom's struggles Xavier unworthy

five targets three for 25 Devante Smith just one catch for eight yards that cooked one of my teams I moved him in there and whoops Devante Adams eight targets perfect stat line for one

the goal line wide receiver for one for one Yeah, that's... And that was his thousandth career reception? It was funny because in the locker and you watch the post game speech when McVeigh comes in and McVeigh's... I mean, the team is thrilled.

They got that walkoff missed field goal win. I did my part. Tough divisional thing, but it was funny. You caught one catch on eight targets. And he comes in and he's just like, he's screaming, McVeigh is just screaming, your thousandth catch. Like, you know, it was like, yay.

It was like, you can. Yeah, but it's, you know, had a bad game. That's still awesome. Down game for Jay and Waddle, all three for 52, whatever. Going into the buy, he's fine. D.K. McCaff. D.K. McHav doesn't have big boy pants anymore.

No, he don't even allow him in this section. No, he is switched. His pants have changed. I don't know, man. I feel like, no. He's got a wee baby toddler pants. Toddler pants. I would, I don't make, there's no way D.K.'s fitting in a toddler pants.

Exactly. It's constricting. I make the argument that he had a very good game for him. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. Five for 49? Not bad. You know what happens every game with Metcalf?

The first drive. The first drive, he makes some catch. And then he makes a big old first down symbol. And you're like, let's go, Metcalf. And then poof. He had two catches right away. And then I think it took until the master of disguise, Mason Rudolph showed up. And then we finally got more targets for,

D.K. Metcalf. The stash. So are you hoping that it's Jason Rudolph? I don't know. I don't know. Listen. I mean, no, because then he used to start a quarterback for Pittsburgh. How

concerned are you? Long-term, big conversation with Justin Jefferson. Five for 61. We know JJ's great. But JJ's here because he's got the biggest pants. Yeah. And

he's currently the wide receiver 24. he will be removed after tonight's game. The concern is very real. When you look through the game log, he's got two incredible games, and those were Carson Wentz games. And the deep shots to Justin Jefferson are terrible.

They're interceptions. They're not to him. And that's kind of what you need, and he's always... Jefferson also had... He was one of the guys. He had a huge drop. Yeah, Addison had one, a big one down the field. But look, it's, it's concerning.

It just makes you worry about the real ceiling. I mean, if you told me, Jacoby Rossett was starting for that team, if you told me Carson Wins is starting, if you told me James was starting. Like right now, McCarthy is in the category of the worst possible situations, which is a rookie quarterback, essentially, that probably isn't going to go over 200 yards in any game. Very often.

You can't complete 60% of his passes. It's bad. It's, um, needs a new Nick. name. This was the dud of the week in my opinion. It was, but I am way less concerned. He saw three targets. Yeah, it was.

He was the one who was out there the most, but it was a big time dud. Yeah, I mean, obviously just a terrible performance, you know, basically a goose, no yards. And then the issue is

the Niners, they were up by a cajillion, right off the bat to the Cardinals, because that's what happens to the Cardinals. And, you know, two touchdowns went to Kittal, McCaffrey, you know, ate the Cardinals' lunch that the Cardinals had to pay for out of their own pockets. Yes. You know that. The team's not paid for their food.

And then after they pay for their lunch, McCaffrey is like, give me to it. So, yeah, it's, I'm happy to play Ricky Pierce all going forward. And that's, that's my opinion. and after a obviously a tremendously bad fantasy performance. You don't want to make him prove it? I don't know. He already proved it to me.

He proved it to me. In the two games? In the games where he was leading the league in two games. Also, three, the way that. Two and a half. 108 yards, 56, 117. Oh, which game did you get hurt? Game four?

Yeah. All right. Thank you. I'm wrong. Yeah. And the way that Shanahan was talking about him, getting him back and the breakout and that he is there, he is going to be their wide receiver one.

I'm confident in that. Okay. All right. I'm not as confident, just like I wasn't as confident to start him this week. I want to see more. Dallas Goddard, Gadsden, Najocou, Fanon, Otten, Pitts. Those guys all had like two catches or one catch,

and it was not a good week for those tight ends. But we'll talk waiver tight ends tomorrow. And maybe pits, a little resurgence with no Drake London playing New Orleans. What's going on, Chuckles? I just was thinking he pits in his pants. So Jason's not doing great, guys. Another tenderloin, Jay.

Another tenderloin. That's a good one. Swish. Hmm. Yeah. Okay. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's No Sundays are for NFL football.

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