Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 12 Studs & Duds + Tilt Town, Impossible Situations! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/27

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

Week 12 recap! On today’s fantasy football podcast, reactions to a wild weekend of NFL action! Which players are worth hitting the panic alarm on? Plus, the outcome of Andy vs Jason, injury news, and the Week 12 edition of Monday Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 27th, 2023. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Studs of the Week, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. Visit youtube.com/fantasyfootballers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oh, welcome in. contrary to popular opinion the megalodon episode was not our final episode that was the popular opinion it did seem that way this morning yeah there was uh there was a consensus out there that... It was just that good? Well, it was at least... They thought it was Jason's last show. Ah. Once they saw the final box score of our head-to-head matchup.

Nope. We continue. We chug along. Yes. And still go for victories. Thoughts on Gabe Davis in general? Just like general overview. Right the back of his football card.

What a blocker. What a blocker. Yeah, that was highlighted on the broadcast. Enjoy these bench points. That would be the other tagline. Is that the tagline for his company? Like Gabe Davis LLC is... Enjoy these bench points.

And if you put them in your lineup next week... Oh, enjoy the goose. Enjoy. Enjoy. And if you put them in your lineup next week. Oh enjoy the goose. Enjoy the goose. Really wild weekend. We had fantasy football drama internally all over the place had big fights in dynasty leagues about tanking and starting out

players and you know the only thing that grown men can fight about. Well you know one of very i mean we're off of thanksgiving we know plenty of things grown american men um so yeah it was wild um turns out connor williams is fine yeah that's uh he's healthy seems healthy i want to always come back from injuries against the Cardinals. Like, that's kind of my, like, if I get injured, I'm going to look at the schedule and be like,

yep, week 18, I'm coming back. Did Kyron time that out? Like, his injury wasn't that bad, and he was just tired? He's like, hey, guys, you know, if you put me on IR, I can come back against the Cardinals. I'll be super healthy. Guys, rest you put me on IR, I can come back against Cardinals. I'll be super healthy. Guys, rest me up. It was definitely a weekend where at least I felt like the matchups, it kind of came true.

You know what I mean? Sometimes we sit here and players are ranked based on these matchups, and sometimes they overcome them and sometimes they don't. This week it just felt like if you had a great matchup that looked good on paper, there were a lot of players that performed up to those expectations, suds and duds on today's show. And, um,

yeah, Brooks, you mentioned, uh, the Megalodon episode. We have giveaway winners. Uh, when are we announcing those tomorrow?

Tomorrow. Okay. Brooks is still sifting through the tweets so many so many tweets so busy weekend we always ask the foot clan on instagram which you can uh you can follow us over there instagram.com slash fancy footballers also on x at the ff Ballers. We asked for your reactions in pun form. And we got them. That's the best form. I guess we'll start with Pat.

Fire Muth. Oh, the man. The Muth. The legend. He, in fact, got Luth. We got Ramandre Stevenson. To infinity. And Bijan.

Oh, you had Kyron Thrilliams. Or I-Win Williams. Or Ky-Win Williams. It's really a self. Who put I-Win Williams in here? I love this player. How about Yalen Hurts? Jonathan Taylor touchdowns.

Or Rice Rice Baby. Too cold. Oh, Rashi, nice. Or there was some bad with George Little. Or Dalton Schultz the bad. Or Poop Nakua. Beep beep, it's the Gus bust. There's also a subpar performance from Doodoo Metcalf.

And Lames Connor. And finally, Saquon Barfleet. Yeah, that was one of those, hmm, not so good. Not so good. The man can only do so much. It was a weird week. For those tracking at home because the tweets were wild, I went into last night's game.

Jason had kind of conceded defeat on Thursday because Dak and CD Land, we haven't talked because we haven't had a show since then. That's right. We're usually up to date, but Dak and CD went off. haven't talked because we haven't had a show since then. That's right. We're usually up to date. But Dak and CD went off. Yeah. Dak had 40 points in our league. While my tight end is Dak's recipient got one reception.

So we thought it was kind of Jason. It was a big reception, Jason. Don't take that away from me. Jason already made his bed. Yeah. I assumed I was toast then. Yeah, you changed your avatar in our Slack channel to the word gone. Yeah.

And with a skull. A nice skull. And then I did gone. I got out of town, went up north, kind of tried to unplug. Tried to be eaten by a bear. Tried to be eaten by a bear. Slathered myself up in honey. Ran around the woods. No bears to be found. They're hi to be eaten by a bear slathered myself up in honey ran around the

woods no bears to be found they're hibernating yeah when you want to be eaten and you can't be eaten can you well bears not interested in losing embarrassing walk back to the cabin what's a real shame is i had mentioned uh i believe on the megalodon episode that if things went really poorly on thanksgiving then that would be the example. I would take Josh Downs out of my lineup, put Gabe Davis in my lineup so that I have more big boom opportunity. So that came true. Thursday I dominated. And then I got out of town, forgot to do that as I unplugged.

And, well, the rest of the week went like a roller coaster. There was one point in time where, towards the halftime of yesterday's pre-Sunday Night game, which became Sunday Night Football, it was so late that Bill's Eagles game was unbelievable. It took forever. It was a great game, but it took forever. I thought it was Sunday Night Football. It was pitch black out here. Yeah. And then Jalen Hurts, my guy, had six points at halftime,

and all of Andy's players were doing well at halftime. I was projected to lose by 30. This is the night's over. We don't even have anybody playing on Monday, so I concede the game. And then Jalen Hurts went off. Devontae Adams no longer gets targets in the second half. James Conner does nothing in the second half. Where in the world?

It looks like I'm going to win, brother. I mean, all I need is 12 points from Eckler in Sunday Night Football. That's it. This was the point in time where I drove home very upset. I put into my plan the scientific approach of not watching your opponent's players. Dude, I mean. And I did not watch. Tried, trued, delivered.

I sat outside by the fire. It's peer-reviewed now. And I contemplated my life choices and my career choices. Get a science journal. I would keep your career, Andy, because you won Austin Eckler, which I'm very sad did not have a negative pun today. I would have really, really enjoyed that. Awful excrement? That's nice.

I like that. Why do you got to do that to Austin? It feels bad, but also the fumbles probably felt bad, too. The fumbles, the lack of work in the passing game, the touchdowns and drops. So I won by five. You did the drops. So I won by five. You did win by five. I won by five. And Gabe Davis was on my bench.

And Gabe Davis was on your bench. And there's your update. Mike's just sitting over there alternating between which of us he thinks is more pathetic in our approach to fantasy. Oh, you're head-to-head. Don't worry. I've got good competition, right? No, it's not just you guys.

It's not just you. You can cross the finish line together. So this is a cliff. We're going over the cliff. Now, last thing of personal league before we move on to the week is as it stands now, it looks like both of us are actually still in the playoffs. Yeah. So all the whining was just not worth it. So, well, still, still a couple of weeks to go.

TP. Oh, my. So we have more have more yeah you got more weeks yeah so um there you go there's your update uh there's your puns i mean i asked the question this morning because we got some news like that we'll talk about as well but how much money is austin eckler losing right now because he's going to be a free agent he's going to be retired is that i mean do you genuinely believe that like it really seems like he is he hurt like he's playing through injury i think it depends on on austin himself the human whether he wants to take a lower salaried veteran type thing to go be a committee back if that's what he wants he'll he'll get an offer with that it seems like very unlikely that a team would go out and based on his great incredible career at this stage age and running back financial landscape that they're gonna go hey here's a nice, big, bada-boom, three-year contract.

Like, it's just not going to happen. To be a starter. Yeah, no, that – he's still – this Austin Eckler is way better than Michael Carter. This Austin Eckler is way better than a bunch of the third-down backs that get snaps here and there if, like you said, he's willing to accept that. But from dynasty perspective? Yeah.

Did we get the cliff? Yeah, I mean, he's one of the – the you know our main league is a keeper league he is uh one of my keepers from this last season and i'm not sure if he's going in that that lottery or not we're gonna i mean we don't know who he plays for next year that was the crazy part our entire matchup maybe came down to the back and forth eckler saqu situation. Both players stunk this week. Mike, how'd you do? You have a good week? Personally?

Yeah. No, professionally. No. Professionally, we did all right. Yeah. Yeah, starts the week real good. Yeah, they did all right. Yeah, pretty nice. So we got big news to talk about.

Yeah. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Well, the big news this morning, the Panthers fired head coach Frank Wright. Carolina is 1-10. Their owner, David Tepper, has now fired three head coaches, including two midseason. Yeah, back-to-back years. That midseason back-to-back years so mid-season back-to-back years is impressive

it really is and this really seems like when it happens after the game to me that's like you know that's angry man walking into a room that's uh very reactionary and so you've seen at least two years where that's happened after losses there's a lot of excitement when david tepper took over this franchise in 2018 this is a someone that's going to come in wants to spend money wants to be aggressive things that i think fan base is really really like the thing that i think the fan base is starting to get upset about is the tinkering the toy that you know like you want to temper you want himself a temper you want the owner that will be aggressive, that will pay right.

The blank checks, all that. But you also want them to not metal. And you want them to let the football people do football things and have patience. Yeah. Have a little bit of patience. It's interesting. I'm sure Jeff Saturday's calling up Tepper now.

I mean, like, look, last year I took over. The Colts are doing good. Sounds like you got a leadership problem. These men need a leader. If you really look at the situation, and we can talk about Bryce Young's dynasty, we can talk about the mess of wide receivers that they have, the offensive line problems. It seems like if you say something negative this week about Bryce Young

or about Kyler Murray, all I get is they have no help, they have no line, they have no blah, blah, blah. I am curious what the expectations could have been for Carolina at this stage of, you know, you've got 11 games played, you have a rookie quarterback, you have definitely got a support issue around him. Like, is David Tepper happy at three and seven I mean I just don't know where seems like unfair expectations for for Frank Reich to a degree I I think it's not a

matter of the record to be honest I think it's a matter of what you're seeing on the field and what you're seeing on the field is truly horrific like uncompetitive they are as bad as any team gets. They put up 10 points against the Titans when they had opportunities all game, and they couldn't do anything, and that's pretty much what they've done the whole season. And your boy, Mike, Adam Thielen, not a lot of opportunities. Your man. Your grandpa. So Frank Reich is out.

Yeah. There you go. I mean so frank reich is out um yeah there you go i mean honestly this is it's irrelevant news to me for the assets of fantasy i mean right now it's it's hard to even feel comfortable starting adam thielen and he's been the only potential starter for fantasy here uh going forward you know tbd on who they're going to hire, they're just going to have an interim. And then in the offseason, they'll find someone that hopefully can fix Bryce Young the way that we saw with Trevor Lawrence. He had a rookie season that was really bad with Urban Meyer, and they said, hey, we got to go find the right person, make the move quick, and resurrect the hope of that you know first overall

draft pick he seems to be though a delightful boss like i would tepper yeah right uh yeah no yeah i mean uh i guess you better produce frank reich was 10 and 1 he never would have been fired uh mark andrews on IR. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers could begin practicing next week, still targeting a week 16 return. Why? I remember why now.

Oh, okay. Because it's about him. Yeah, okay. When I said he wouldn't come back, I thought he'd be putting the team in 2024 in first place. But now he gets to go and be, like to me, isn't it about the headline now? You came back super quick? What week is he targeting?

16. Allegedly. Well, of course it's going to be week 16, not 17. You want to come back against the Manders or the Browns? This is another target the right matchup. Right. I don't get it. Tim Boyle, though, he's going to keep starting.

Huh? I told you, I don't think Robert Sale is the guy, man. David Tepper needs to get in there quick. See, I think I don't blame Robert Sale. I can't stand Robert Sale. Really? I like him a lot. I think he's a good coach.

I've turned on him. No. Describe that for me because I don't know how this is his fault. He's a defensive-minded head coach who has his defense being top three. No, you're the head coach. No, that's fine. You've got a great defense. I get it.

But you have no quarterback. You've been given no quarterback. The general manager needs to be fired here for not going out and trading for a Josh Dobbs or signing a Carson Wentz off the straight or doing something early in the season. He's not the only one to blame by any stretch of the imagination. He's also been dealt the injury card this year. But you have lost your locker room two years in a row.

But what could he have done? He could have made changes. Pivoted to Tim Boyle earlier. He could not have done anything. He could have made changes earlier. Not last year. You can't take the number two overall pick and just be like, okay, we're already done with you

in the middle of the season. But that would have been the better move because he lost the locker room and they had to do it by default. Both seasons he's waited too long to make changes. And I don't think he's made good decisions from a head coaching

perspective on this team and what is going on with trevor simeon right he must have lost his right arm like he has to have because if you're sitting here watching tim boyle i mean there's a reason that you didn't move off of zach wilson it was because the backup was tim boyle but trevor simeon's been on the practice squad and that guy can actually play football. The beat reporters... At one time he could. Yeah, I mean that's why I'm saying he must have lost his arm because if they're saying, hey, we're sticking with Tim Boyle they must be seeing something bad. Look, there is

some accountability to... I don't know what happens behind the scenes but everything that Robert Sala has done for two years is he goes out there and goes to bat for Zach Wilson for X amount of weeks. He's accountable for that. If you go and you go to the general manager and say,

this guy doesn't have it in week two when you've seen him last year, isn't that an evaluation standpoint? You're in practice every day. Like, this guy doesn't have a go-get-me Carson Wentz. This guy doesn't have a go-get-me Jacoby Brissett. This guy doesn't have a go-get-me. I mean, they spent the money on Aaron Rodgers and other pieces, so that's the part that I hold him accountable to.

Yeah, 100% you're right there. We just don't know that that didn't happen. You know what I mean? We don't know that publicly he's not saying, hey, we support Zach Wilson. He's a great guy. We see a lot we like, and then behind the scenes going like, get me someone that can play quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I

feel bad for Jets fans. I really do. Yeah, the window of such a great defense. It's like those things just don't last forever. We saw it years ago with the Jacksonville Jaguars when they had that unfathomably otherworldly defense, and you thought that would just stick around, and then the next year you wait too long, and they're just not good at defense anymore.

Maybe that's why rogers needs to come back if you want to you know give them the benefit of the doubt maybe to invigorate a team and a fan base and give them hope for the next year yeah i don't know or you get hurt again and that'd be a long summer oh man bunch of injuries yesterday chris olave exited with a concussion rashid sh Shaheed left early. That blew up some DFS for me, that Rashid Shaheed injury, because he was cheap. Yeah, and Olave was dominating.

He had a good game, even with the exit. Yeah, 40. He played less than half of the game, and he ended 7 for 114, and then went up for a really bad throw, and ended up landing on his head. Omari Cooper exited with a rib injury late.

That didn't look good. Dorian Thompson Robinson, concussion. P.J. Walker came in. He looked exactly the same as who he is. Yeah, it's probably Joe Flacco time. Javante Williams left and returned. Same with ETN and Baker Mayfield and then Cooper Cup. What do you do with Cooper Cup right now?

I don't know, man. Well, it wasn't just Cup. I mean, both Cooper Cup and Puka Nakua had down games. Did they combine for about 40 yards receiving or something? But Stafford had a down game, too. No. What? That's the point.

Oh, he's being sarcastic. That is the point. How does Staffordastic that is the point how does stafford how do the rams put up 37 points i mean yes kyron williams what what higby got two touchdowns exactly what are you doing to us matthew it was mean it was unfortunate that it happened that way obviously stafford ended up with the top 10 performance had four passing touchdowns they just didn't go to the right players yeah yeah exactly and but it's like legitimately but it's been a little bit since it's been a lot of it it's been a lot of it yeah i'm looking at the box score right now cooper cup came back in week five

all was well 118 yards the next week against arizona 148 and a touchdown but since then 29 yards 21 those were both fully healthy games. Well, not for Stafford. Week 8, Stafford left in the middle of the game in the week 90. I'm just reading Cooper Cupps' numbers. The week after that was 2 for 48, 84% of the game. So most of the game, maybe he could have fixed it at the very end. And then another hurt game with 11 yards,

and now another full game with 18 yards. What? Look, you were on Sunday Live on YouTube. I was in here listening, and you gave the same advice that I would have given in your shoes, which is that when Cooper Cup is active and you're facing Arizona. Yeah, I'm playing him. Like, you have both sides of the coin here.

You have the side where you're like, okay, Kyron Williams is back from injury. Just put the faith in the matchup off of an injury, and he's the best player on the week. Then you have Cooper Cupp, who's one of the best receivers in football, if not the best, and coming off an injury, and you put the faith in the matchup, and it doesn't work out. And your quarterback had 229 yards and four passing touchdowns. And now you're playing against the Cleveland Browns,

and so how do you have the confidence in Cooper Cup, having had a bad month and a half, partially with injury, but he's still dealing with it. We saw him go out and into the game. Well, and they play Cleveland Baltimore. Yeah, that's what I mean. How are you going to be able to be confident starting him? And how do you bench him?

Well, I mean, I think – It's just an impossible situation. I mean, you're going to have to make – How do you play him? How do you not play him? Yeah, can you half play? I think you just cut him. I don't know.

I can't handle this. This is your decision now. I think you just cut him. I don't know. I can't handle this. This is your decision now. I like the idea of having a fantasy football league where it is all about the mental peace of mind. Yeah, that's it. You just get rid of the most difficult decisions you have. You just cut them off the team. You just play the most pedestrian. You're someone else's problem.

Yeah, exactly. All right, that was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. We're going to take a quick break and get into the studs and duds. You got my head spinning with that whole, I mean, what if you had a league where if someone gets injured, they have to be dropped oh man that's not fair uh all right let's uh let's walk through this week see what we got going forward studs of the week presented by nfl sunday ticket on youtube and youtube tv well let's start with the game of the week. I mean, the Josh Allen-Jalen Hurts head-to-head matchup,

it was absolutely incredible. Field Yates put it out there on Sunday. Jalen Hurts and Josh Allen became the first opposing quarterbacks in NFL history to have multiple passing touchdowns and multiple rushing touchdowns in the same game. Josh Allen was a monster. I mean, 29 for 51, 3339 and 2, two rushing touchdowns, 81 yards on the ground.

This game had a 48.5 point over under. And when you got to halftime, you're like, That was toast. You're like, what is, like all the hopes, all the dreams, all the expectations, all the DFS, all the, you know, everything. Everything was super disappointing, and there was a reason for it. You had awful weather. But, you know, everything. Everything was super disappointing, and there was a reason for it. You had awful weather.

You know, this was a rainy game where it didn't seem like anything was going to click. And you saw this the previous week with the Eagles and Kansas City. You had Mahomes versus Jalen Hurts in a weather rainy game. And it just never, you know, at the end of that game, you were still pretty disappointed. So this one was not one you saw the second half and overtime going the way it did but it was pretty awesome for fantasy considering Dak Prescott threw for 331 and four touchdowns and he's the quarterback three on the week yeah I mean Jalen Hurts 18 for 31 200 yards passing three touchdowns 14 for 65 two on the ground including including the game winner. We're sitting in here watching it yesterday.

Mike and I were both facing Jalen Hurts going, it's like you – No, it did not hurt so good. It hurt so bad. I mean, it depends on which side of the game you're on. And we're watching this game, and it's like everything that you – if you wanted something to happen in Jalen Hurd's favor, it was happening. I mean, he was making third and longs, converting them. He was scrambling, and he didn't look himself scrambling.

His knee is clearly bothering him, and it didn't matter. I was telling Mike in the middle of the game, I'm like, dude, if they kick a field goal here, they're going to lose this game. Talking about the overtime. The bills and overtime, which nowosh allen is oh and five in overtime since the rules have changed what a lose in his favor or in because of that game where he did not get the opportunity after the field goal to go down and and win the game and that loser dac prescott uh like you said third this week mike started the week 331-4 on Thanksgiving. It was a great performance.

Top three quarterback in five of the last six starts. There's no one in fantasy who's been more valuable than Dak Prescott. I tweeted, Mike. I don't know if you saw it. I did. I gave you a heart. I appreciated it. I tweeted you some credit.

That second-half sleeper, Dak Prescott. I mean, look at the matchups coming up. Oh, yeah. Seattle. Yes, please. Philadelphia. Heck, yeah. Buffalo. Buffalo.cott. I mean, look at the matchups coming up. Oh, yeah. Seattle. Yes, please. Philadelphia. Heck yeah. Buffalo.

Yes. I mean. Keep going. Detroit. That's the entire season. There's no matchup that is like a neutral matchup. They're all positive for the quarterback. I remember at the trade deadline, Mike tried to send me like two for cheap.

And I was like, why? I'm just playing Dak every game. I'm like, I'm not touching somebody else. C.J. Stroud, he's on, like I have my list of players I don't like watching, and I tweet that weekly. And Mac Jones took his rightful place on the top of that throne. Bryce Young, though, making his first appearance. Well, not that it should have been his first, but there were other players.

I mean, Derek Carr looked pretty terrible yesterday too. But at the top of the players I want to watch play football on every down, C.J. Stroud. C.J. Stroud, another 300-yard game, two more touchdowns, one rushing touchdown, just barely, and I mean barely, failed to come back in this game because a 60-yard field goal went off the center, the upright. He's the quarterback four in fantasy since week three.

And you watch what happens in their line. Like, he'll move around. He just moves around until somebody comes open. It's the most Mahomesian kind of quarterback play I've seen in a while, if I'm honest. Like, he does not look to run. He looks to take time until one of his very talented receivers breaks open, which they always do. And when I was scouting him for the NFL draft season,

the superpower that I thought he had is I've never seen someone more accurate on the move. When he is running, scrambling, not like, you know, and he throws the ball while running. It's pinpoint. It's exactly where the ball needs to be every single time yeah he had a 50 something yard catch to tank dale called back in this game too um he did it he did have a one kind of boneheaded decision there on the uh

was like taking a sack or no no when they it was oh yeah it was third and shorter it was fourth fourth and one anything it was fourth and one and then and he chucks up a bomb. Oh, I love it, baby. It was – CJ, just get the first down. He wasn't on the run enough for it to be accurate. But look, let's talk dynasty. Who do you want? Like where is CJ Stroud in the hierarchy of dynasty quarterbacks at this point? He's rocketing up.

Yeah, he is rocketing up. He's still below the – Hurts, Allen Mahomes, Herbert. All the super mobile quarterbacks. Yeah, those guys I would have above him. Kyler or Stroud? I think Kyler for fantasy. I still think Kyler's running is going to –

Does that mean you put Kyler ahead of Herbert? He's in that same tier to me. Okay. Yeah, I agree. He's in the tier with those guys. Lamar? Connected to Tank Dell for multiple years now because they're both rookies together. And this is one of the things where you don't need Bryce Young to be as good as what you've seen from C.J. Stroud.

C.J. Stroud has looked like an absolute superstar. But the excuses of, well, you don't have the greatest weapons. You don't have a good offensive line. And it's like, well, yeah, now at this point we're like, well, Tank Dell's a superstar. Nico Collins is a superstar. These guys weren't, you know what I mean? Like Tank Dell was drafted behind Jonathan Mingo, who, you know,

the money given to Adam Thielen is more than anyone that's on the Houston Texans, more than Nico Collins. So it's like, are the weapons making C.J. Stroud? I think C.J. Stroud's taking advantage of the weapons a little bit more. The Bears traded the number one pick, which was Bryce Young, and they received D.J. Moore. They received the first-round pick, which is their offensive tackle. They received the second-round pick, which is their cornerback.

Then they got another first-round pick, which is now – right now it's the number one pick. Yeah, it's Caleb Williams. And they're going to either take Caleb Williams or, I mean – Trade it for another haul. I mean, if they trade that pick for a haul, that means that their number one pick got traded for just like 10 assets. Oh, by the way, another second-rounder in that mix as well.

It's wild uh when you play the game of quarterbacks and you lose you die trevor lawrence another big game thanks to the rushing touchdown on top of a passing touchdown calvin ridley looks good right now with with uh zay jones back it was it was although he did drop a wide-open touchdown. He dropped a wide-open touchdown, and it was weird. I'm pretty sure he had no yards in the first half, and everything Calvin Ridley did was in the second. He's a weird guy right now. Stafford had the big game.

Let's talk running backs. Kyron Williams, 16 for 143 on the ground, 6 for 61, and 2 through the air. 200 yards. So that's where all the yards that Kup and Nakua didn't get went. Also, Higby, two touchdowns. But Cleveland, Baltimore the next two weeks. You're going to start him. Yes.

This isn't a debatable, I'm not sure, the matchup is bad. Let me look at who else I should have in there. Kyron is getting so much volume. He's a workhorse. He's looked great. I would not be benching Kyron. He has taken advantage of the best matchups, that's for sure. Ironically, the last two games he's played were against Arizona.

There's the running back to and running back one. He was our before against the 49ers in week two. Yes. Yes, he was. I believe he was on a six touchdowns and six games streak in that run. So I'm not saying don't bench him. I'm just saying 37 points might not be in the cards for the next two. No, it won't be two weeks.

Christian McCaffrey 37 points is probably in the cards. For him? Every week for Christian. Philly? It doesn't matter. Tough matchup. Don't care. Yeah. Bijan Robinson, 16 for 91 and a touchdown. Six targets.

Caught one through the air. It's the first 20-point fantasy game of the year. Getting red zone work and not surprisingly scoring touchdowns on them because he's really really good and look arthur i mean i said this right before they went to buy but it's like he might be self-reflecting okay i'm maybe like i know we've coined him the butthole but i've i've watched i've watched so i've watched more press conferences with Arthur Smith this year than I think of any coach I've ever watched. I know his voice so well now. If I hear him on a radio station while I'm driving, I know immediately that's Arthur.

And I hate to say this. Oh, no. Don't you dare. No. But I kind of like some of his logic sometimes. And I'm seeing good things oh man no i feel like he's a sim he's an arthur sympathizing maybe it's like loki or like the scarlet witch he's a bad guy but he could do some good you know like maybe he's no look mean, if he gives... If the Sith take over the universe, it'll be pretty good.

I'm just saying, we got to give credit. Kyle, you're on the microphone, right? I am. And you're a lifelong, born and bred, bleed Falcons red type of guy. You buying me this from Jason? I like Jason's optimism. I'm not going to I like Jason's optimism. I'm not going to lie.

It's refreshing. Now, are they in the playoffs right now? They are. They're leading the division. Under 500. I think he had a very, like when I saw the end of that game and Arthur Smith was handshaking and high-fiving, that was a man very relieved to get back into the winning column. But you know what?

Using your best players, kind of one of the keys that I've always had. It is. Mike, when you coach your kids' league, do you often focus on the better players for victories? When I'm allowed to. Oh, yeah. I guess you might have some. It's a rec league, so we have some.

We have some. But when you get to the playoffs. Is that what Arthur thinks this is? Maybe. Next week is going to be must-watch television at the New York Jets for the Atlanta Falcons. Oh, man. I will legit be pumped to watch that game. Because of Bijan?

No, just for all of the implications. They're off of a three-game losing streak. Yeah. And if they go. They're favored on the implications. Like, they're off of a three-game losing streak. Yeah. And if they go. They're favored on the road. And if they go lose to the Jets team that I just watched play on Black Friday, I mean, that'll be incredible. Well, all right.

Well, Isaiah Pacheco, 15 for 55. 55! Two touchdowns, five catches. Just a solid day's work. Yeah,s, five catches. Just a solid day's work. Yeah, very, very involved. You know, when you get 20 opportunities and you're getting passing work and you're on a great offense, you just keep rolling. This next week against Green Bay is a very plus matchup for running backs.

Enjoyed everybody tweeting at me how bad my start of the week Raheem Mostert was. Halfway through, three-quarters of the way through through the game but he was not a bad start no 24 94 two touchdowns closing it out strong whoo thank goodness uh gets to play washington one of the most hilarious touchdowns of like he wasn't sure he wanted to score that last one is that what that was yes when he was running parallel when he got through the whole line with the time running out he was looking around trying to see am i allowed to do this he would do i do i finish this touchdown do i lay down what am i supposed

to do here i guess he didn't get any signs so he just he scored a touchdown it's like zay flowers oh no zay flowers zay flowers waved it off he's like i know you told me get down but i need this he should not have scored that touchdown but fantasy managers are very happy he did two touchdowns for him as well yeah i guess we'll talk about him uh jonathan taylor two touchdowns josh jacobs with the breakaway dominant first half and then uh goodbye heading to the bye and uh they lost. Derek Henry, two touchdowns. Mike, start of the week. The Yeti.

The snow in Vermont is undefeated. Tony Pollard scored again. Ramondre, the man, the plan. He looked very, very good. 21 for 98. Touchdown. Yeah, got a touchdown. Got five targets.

Caught all five of them. Did not get to 10 receiving yards. But the fact that Stevenson put up the game that he put up with the amount of turnovers that the Patriots had from both of their quarterbacks, that's a great game. There was a point yesterday morning Mike and I were in the studio. Jason was out of town, and six games were on. Oh, gosh.

We were like a quarter through these games. There had not been a touchdown. There were, I mean, Zappy and Mac Jones were taking turns throwing the worst interceptions you've ever seen. Tommy DeVito was like trying to get his best sack posture in place before the hit. I mean, some gross football yesterday morning. But winner, winner Tommy DeVito was, like, trying to get his best sack posture in place before the hit. I mean, some gross football yesterday morning. Yeah, but winner.

Winner, Tommy DeVito. Winner, sorry. Yes. Chuba Hubbard had a monster game. Chuba. Chuba had five targets, five for 47. There was a lot of check down Charlie stuff going on, 14 for 45, and a touchdown on the ground.

In fact, Miles Sanders had more carries. So if you're looking at like what could change with the head coaching change, like you could see more Miles Sanders. He was awful, but you could see more. And then Najee Harris ended up 15 for 99 and a touchdown. The offense in Pittsburgh put up

yards for the first time in a long, long time. Yeah, weird. Guess who they play next week? Oh, no. For real? Are they Arizona? Arizona. Oh, my goodness.

So Najee and Warren, shall we claim them as stars of the week already? I'll go Najee. I'll take Warren. Dang it. If you didn't see the run, Pittsburgh already favored by five and a half. If you did not see the Najee run where it's an incredible highlight.

It made no sense. No, he runs forward, gets a good gain, runs into the pile. Big pile. It becomes the huge pile of ten guys all trying to push each other backwards or forward. The pile kind of moves, kind of moves, and then the pile disintegrates.

But remaining is Nachi Harris, who then runs like another 15 yards. It's like one of those cartoons, you know, when the cartoon fight happens? It's a big dust pile, and then it keeps going, but somebody comes out the other end and just keeps going. Yeah, it's Nachi. It was very funny. Mike Evans, two more touchdowns six for 70 is on fire almost had a third i mean before the week he was the wide receiver seven on the year what a great call i'm very happy that that worked out i mean he's just been so consistent too

uh at this point in the year he is is... Is he in double-digit touchdown range yet? No, he's at 9. 850 yards receiving already with six games left. Seems to be the go-to guy for a team that has now lost 6 of 7. Every game, it

seems like Baker has a chance to come back in. Yeah, they're in most of these games. They don't seem like a bad team to me. They get to play Carolina next week. And they'll prove my point. Tyreek Hale, 12 targets, unstoppable. Jalen Waddell, big game, 8 for 114 on Black Friday. Did you guys watch the Black Friday game?

Yeah, I sure did. I made myself. Yeah. It wasn't the best watch. Zay Flowers, two touchdowns, one through the air, one on the ground, and not a lot of yards. No. No.

The touchdown saved the day here. The consolidation happened with the absence of McCall Hardman, the absence of Kadarius Toney, and then one monstrous play. Rashi Rice, baby. Ten targets, eight for 107 and a touchdown. Every time he's touched the ball this entire year, I think everybody has watched and said, why isn't he touching the ball more?

And sometimes it's really discouraging because the way he touches the ball is the screen game. And you're just like, does he not have the ability to score? I mean, even let's just be fair. Like the Rashi Rice touchdown was one of those, you know, crossing routes five yards from the line of scrimmage, and he just turned the corner and turned on the Jets, and it was a monstrous touchdown.

But, you know, for whatever reason, he's not super involved downfield. But when you take away some of the other options, man, it paid a big dividend. For Dynasty and for the rest of the season, the fact that he's not really used downfield as much as you would hope for a primary wide receiver, that gives him an easy and clear path of being upgraded for fantasy, for just being more involved in the offense because he can. I don't believe that we've seen anything that says he can't be used

successfully down the field. We've seen a couple good, deeper plays on the season. They're just manufacturing short yardage touches for not just him, for the whole offense. I'm really disappointed with – I mean, you can't argue too much. They scored 31 points, and they're still a great team, great offense, the Chiefs are. But I do feel like you look at all the stats post Tyreek Hill leaving, and it's like Patrick Mahomes is just – everything is a check down.

Everything is a screen. Everything is an underneath, shorter than 15 yards. It's like – Let's have the discussion because you're going to have – I mean, you bring up a good point, Jason. Patrick Mahomes has two games where he has finished inside the top six. Okay? Two out of 12.

Or, I'm sorry, two out of 11 games. Even this past week, you finished at quarterback eight, which is fine, but it's 20 points. 16, 15, 5, 33. That was great. Against the Chargers. 17, 19, 13, 25, 5, 33. That was great. Against the Chargers. 17, 19, 13, 25, 21, 19. Do you have confidence?

Because you always have. Do you have confidence going into your fantasy playoffs locking Mahomes into your lineup? I think it's a really hard question. It's tough because to bench Mahomes, you would have to have high level of confidence in the replacement so like it's got to be like that if you had picked up dac i think the only other name i can think there is another one the only other name i could think of that's like you could

easily have him available sure cj stroud because c. Stroud's just been way better for fantasy. I was in a league where a few weeks ago the manager had Mahomes and Stroud. Offered me Stroud at the time. I turned the trade down. Offered me Mahomes instead. Took the trade. Whoops. Whoops.

Maybe. Maybe. Maybe whoops. Yeah. Their defense is very good. They're also just their fantasy playoffs are new england in new england then las vegas and cincinnati they're not scoring the way they usually las vegas is not a great matchup for quarterbacks usually cincinnati is a great matchup what was the first week new england's fine in new england just stinks uh if you want

to see cj strouds you're talking about talking about at Tennessee which is a very good matchup for quarterbacks then Cleveland not good and then of course Tennessee again because that Texans Titans I think what you what you're lacking are the battles I mean the Charger game was

much more of a you know like we saw with Philadelphia and Buffalo but you're not having teams put up big points against them. That's my worry. That's the concern I have. After week three, I started talking about them. I've got massive worry about Mahomes because this defense is legit. And if he doesn't get into shootouts, like he can go out and put up 40 fantasy points.

We know that. But he might not need to. And they might just say, hey, let me give pacheco another 15 carries and five dump offs and those dump offs they go a little bit to mahomes but they're not going to score as much they keep the clock moving they keep the chiefs winning they don't put points up for fantasy the same way davante smith seven for 106 and a touchdown n Nico Collins and Tank Dell. Nico did the work in the second half. Tank Dell did the work

in the first half. Both scored. I couldn't believe. Tank Dell seemed like he was going to end the game with 700 yards and 12 touchdowns the way it started, but he did disappear the second half. It was very troubling. I had a lot of players disappear and not even perform in the second half. It was very troubling.

I had a lot of players disappear and not even perform in the second half. I felt like, Jason, you were casting spells or mixing some sort of brew over wherever you were. You just stopped all the second halves. I genuinely, by that point, all hope had been lost. I didn't even care at that point. I wasn't even hopeful. I was just like, okay, let's move on to next week uh gabe davis seven six for 105 and a touchdown he's back

baby shove him in your lineups just kidding he's on by um yeah thank goodness uh stefan dig six for 74 and a touchdown goodness thank goodness bye week is the favorite it's my favorite week to have gabe davis on my roster oh Oh, man. Which I would never do. If he was starting next week. People will chase that. Oh, I will chase. I'm like, no, I can't do it. I'm so happy he's on bye.

Who? He does. When are you actually happy? I'm genuinely happy that my player is unavailable. That's ridiculous. Yeah. Calvin Ridley. Big game. Deley, big game.

Debo, nice game. It was cool to see. Watson, 5 for 94 and a touchdown. This one made sense to me just because you had some injuries at the wide receiver room, but nice to see it happen. I mean, I get that. What didn't make sense was the Packers dominating. Yeah. Just absolutely throttling the Lions.

I mean, that was a shock. What is going on with Jared Goff? He hasn't looked great. He was thinking about that turkey and gravy. His mind was not in the game. Two weeks ago, you had the three-pick game against, I think it was the Bears, and they were horrifically bad. At home.

And then the whole first half, Jared Goff looked like he totally forgot how to play quarterback. It was a very, very strange situation. Michael Pittman? Hmm. 13 targets? Hmm. 10 for 107? Also, update.

Hmm. Had I made that trade and put Michael Pittman over Josh Towns, I also win. But to be fair to myself, I told you I regretted it way before this. I said I was wrong and I was just proving that's why I only said hmm. If you could go back.

If I could go back, I would take the trade and I would win. And I would have Michael Pittman. Well, I'm a dummy. Such an idiot. Why didn't I do it? Mike might pay more attention to his vindictive stat tracking

than he does his own team. Who doesn't? Way more fun. Over the course of the weekend, they were like, Mike was turned down on multiple Pittman trades, and he's just tracking each of those teams' scores to see the player they chose to go with over Pittman. It wasn't just you.

He was tracking another guy in our league just to see if he could dunk on him. This is my start of the week, and also going up against Tennessee, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh the next three weeks. Would be a great guy to have. Hope you have Michael Pittman. Great guy to have. 16 more targets for keenan allen he can't do it alone though and um but he can't do it for your fantasy team he sure tried and he

sure was alone here yeah oh my god doesn't exist quentin johnston another drop doesn't exist he i mean he just has no weapons there have you seen the memes going around because quentin johnston is the one who. Cuge also got banged up. Cuge had the, at the draft, he told his mom to quit her job and she'll never have to work again. That's nice. I hope that's true.

Tyler Higby, two touchdowns out of nowhere. Pat Fryer, this was the big story. Yeah, baby. Nine for 120. The first, I mean, honestly, did he have 120 yards? On the season? No. On the season before that?

I believe he had 60 total yards or so. I'm on it. He was on pace for 200 yards on the season. Yeah, he had 60 yards. Yeah, and then he was 9 for 120. You know, you could call it an outlier if this had happened under Matt Canada, but maybe, just maybe, they made it a focus to throw it to the middle of the field. If you look at the passing charts under Matt Canada,

it was all to the boundary, and that was the problem. Pat Frymuth is not running routes at the boundary. I will say that Cincinnati is one of those matchups that we've targeted all year. They can't stop the tight end position. So I'm very hopeful that this is offensive changes with Canada out and having a really talented – I mean, that was what we talked about when we talked about the trade I made for Friar Muth is, like, he is talented.

Pat Friar Muth is a very good NFL tight end. Yes, he is. And if they choose to use him that way, he will be successful. They chose to use him this way. You hope... Use the muth! You hope that going forward this is the new normal as opposed to just the game plan against Cincinnati, but I could see either one being true.

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NFL season for half the price at $174 when bundled with YouTube TV. Sign up at youtube.com slash fantasy footballers. Terms and embargoes apply. No refunds. Pooped in his big boy pants. Well, Tua? Yeah.

Brock Purdy? Oh, just hold on. Because Tua, to me, Tua, you know, go rewind like three weeks or so, he was one of the six quarterbacks where you're like, no, I'm good. I put Tua in no matter what's going on. And since week eight, he was the QB nine at just under 22 points, then 12 and a half, then 17, now eight. I didn't like the schedule over the back half of the year at all.

Yeah, but I'm saying it was a rough schedule, but it's Tyreek, it's Jalen Waddell, Tua can have these huge explosive games. Is it back to I'm really looking at the matchups? I mean, Washington and Tennessee should be fine. Your playoffs are the Jets, Dallas, and Baltimore. That's a problem. From here, Washington and Tennessee should be fine. Your playoffs are the Jets, Dallas, and Baltimore. That's a problem. From here, I think Tua gets you to the playoffs

because Washington and Tennessee are the next two weeks. Should be great. But the playoff weeks, if you can find someone else that you're confident in, maybe make plans in case you see something along the way that says, yeah, I've got a better option for a great matchup in week 15. Pretty disappointed. Justin Herbert is –

Not his fault. He's just all alone, man. He's just all alone doing his best. But he got – I mean, Keenan had a fumble. Eckler had a fumble. They didn't have possession of the ball. Four turnovers, I think. Oh, my gosh, that whole first half.

It was like they had the ball 90 seconds. I'm just watching waiting for Eckler to do something and he can't because the second they get the ball, they play fast too. So it was like they are moving, they are on the line. Their three and outs are fast. Their three and outs are like I hope you didn't go to the bathroom because you're

not going to understand why Baltimore has the ball again. No, their players went to the bathroom instead. Lamar Jackson, there are weeks you don't need him. You just don't. He's got a little bit of the same Mahomes issue with the defense being really good. Shootouts are what you want, and there's not

been a lot of shootouts for Kansas City or Baltimore. And to be fair, the Chargers defense looked really good. They were bottling up. I mean, you talk about, like, you don't need them. They kind of did here. They only scored 20 points, and that really was the majority of the game. They were, you know, in the teens.

I'm going to say some tough stuff now because we're moving on to running backs. For the last four weeks, Bree saw 16 for 50, 13 for 28, 10 for 23, 7 for 25. 2.7 to carry over four weeks. Brees Hall is finished 27-30, 13-29. Seven receptions for 24 yards. Yeah, nine targets from Tim Boyle is why I'm not worried because over the last several weeks, the place where he's given you good games is in the receiving work. So I'm not worried because over the last several weeks, the place where he's

given you good games is in the receiving work. So I'm happy with the targets. You're concerned for sure. He might not win your league. No, I agree with that. He is not a superstar when the offense can't score 15 points. It's crazy. I mean, he's very much, he's in the Saquon situation which is up next, which is you know, Saquon was 12 for 46. The disappointing thing here was you only got three targets to Saquon. You only had one catch, so it was a huge Now he goes on by

and I'm not going to help you this upcoming week. Eckler, Gus Buss. Eckler is concerning. Like, because Is that two single digit games in a row Brees yes it is uh Brees 32 and 34 it looks explosive still you know you you see usually every game he's got some 50 yard run come back on a hold um but he you know he looks the part he's just usually got five guys around him Eckler right now looks like something is wrong.

He does not look explosive or special. His yards per carry down from 4.5 to 3.8. Yeah, and even in the receiving game, he's got a lot of drops. He's fumbled it back-to-back weeks. His top speed

is non-existent. I think I can hit 15 miles an hour 13 no no no that's what i'm saying oh i think i can beat him right i mean not in general but like right now with whatever's going on with him uh it's it's really concerning i mean the next couple weeks are you what do you do? I feel like you're stuck playing him. I mean, the snap count was at least at 80%, but there are a handful of these running backs you don't know what to do with. I mean, this next guy, I am flabbergasted.

I have no – James Conner. James Conner went six for 27 in this game. Okay? He had four catches for five yards. James Conner played the same snaps that Michael Carter played. James Conner had six carries, and Kyler Murray passed the ball 45 times. James Conner, I didn't see him on the field in the second half. I'm sure he was there maybe once or twice, but he legitimately had no carries.

He only played 42% of the snaps, and it seems like right now with the system, he is not the, if you're down a lot, he's not that guy. I mean, that is, he's got Pittsburgh in the bye week. Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. Yeah, they just didn't go to running backs. Can you play him? This is a tweet from Jared Smola. This was through the first three quarters of week 12.

Connor was six carries, four targets. D Markado was three carries. Michael Carter was one carry. I mean, they just, they were not utilizing the position. But, but that is a fundamental change from what happened at the end of last year where he was on the field all the time and he caught the ball better. He literally was, I mean, I think when you watch the games last year with the volume in the receiving game and the quality of receptions,

he was one of the best pass-catching running backs in football, and now the team is saying, I've drawn up third down for DiMarcato and Michael Carter. I mean, he still had five targets in this game, which is great for a running back. I think you don't know how much of the fourth quarter being really, really down and out was protection, was, oh, you're not our two-minute drill guy. I don't know. But going on the road to Pittsburgh, that is not an offense that scares me.

I know that Arizona has a bad defense and they are the cure to a lot of woes out there. But I think James Conner is a fine play this coming week. Pittsburgh's not been phenomenal against the run. So, uh, okay. Okay. Yeah,

it was, as somebody who was watching for something from James Conner, it was a, it was a tough one to, to watch, but I hope you're right. I hope he's involved. I,

this team is got the second pick in the draft right now, and I just wonder if they're working other guys out or what. But Joe Mixon, this was a monstrous dud of a game. Cincinnati is broken. If you didn't watch the game and you're just only looking at, like, Jamar Chase's stat line, okay, I can live with that. Two tip passes. Yeah, over half of his production was on two tip passes.

So it's going to be bad. It's going to be bad. Yeah, yeah. Zach, Sharba, meh. Yeah, Sharbust. I mean, his volume was fantastic. Four targets, 14 carries, 88% in snaps. He led all NFL running backs.

It was exactly what you want. It wasn't efficient, effective, great for fantasy. It was against the San Francisco 49ers. So you go, well, how much of that was just, hey, you're facing a great defense. You mean like Dallas or San Francisco or Philadelphia the next three weeks? Right, yeah, that's the next month. Just like those last two guys, next week would you rather play Mixon against the Jags or Charbonnet against Dallas?

Charbonnet. And I would go Charbonnet. I'd play Mixon. Charbonnet has had a very interesting ability to have a lot of snaps and no production. Even when Walker was there. When Walker was there, he was getting a lot of snaps but not a lot of opportunities, not touching the ball. And now the opportunities are actually up.

21 last week, 18 this past week. I'm going to take that volume and the chance that Seattle scores more than the chance that the Browning-led Bengals score. Okay. I think that's a tight one. Yeah. Is it tight for you? I don't want to start either.

Wide receiver dives we talked about at Cooper Cup, Puka Nakua, Cleveland-Baltimore coming up. It's going to be tough. DK Metcalf, nine targets, back to a subpar game. Tyler Lockett, just three for 30 as well. So, Metcalf, Lockett, and Smith and Jig, but all three were disappointments. Along with Charbonnet. Along with Seattle. Yeah. The Niners kept San Francisco

or the Niners kept Seattle to 13 total points in the game. Well, the wide receiver five in weeks one through six, Adam Thielen, has been the wide receiver 44 from weeks eight on after the bye. Who knew? One catch, two yards.

The gas tank ran out. Are you moving on? No. I'm not, like, leaving. I'm not. Mingo led the team. I'm not dropping him, but I'm fine looking at waiting. It was last week. He was at 11 targets, 8 for 74 against Dallas.

DeAndre Hopkins and Marty Cooper, both huge disappointing weeks. Cooper can't do much right now, and now he's hurt. Man, Bananarama got us. He got us so good. Will Levis, you sneaky snook. I mean, you come out that first week when no one was prepared for you and you were out of ammo yeah you i mean you you made everyone who said you were not good and gonna be bad like yeah we did look so foolish that first week because it was like oh man but he's on a winning

streak now i guess yeah yeah play carolina more um yeah he's not good uh streak now. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Play Carolina more. Yeah. He's not good. Terry McLaurin continues to disappoint. Deontay Johnson, four for 50. Still thought he had a touchdown. I think he had a touchdown. I mean, that was.

In college. No, it was. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about the back of the end zone. Yeah. You've got to survive the ground. But to me, it looked like he had caught it, it was, yeah. I mean, we're talking about the back of the end zone one. Yeah, where you've got to survive the ground. But to me, it looked like he had caught it, was turning, and then got pushed to the ground.

Yeah, it looked like a fumble was caused by the defender after three steps. Obviously, we're wrong. It wasn't a catch. Josh Downs had 13 targets. He had some drops. He had some way off targets, and he ended up 5 for 43. That's a shame. What a bummer.

He's still probably a good player. Would you have won with Hollywood? I don't think so, but I didn't look at that. He wasn't actually a consideration. I was literally – I was just curious if all your bench wide receivers would have won you the game. I told you this morning, my plan was to put in Gabe Davis over Josh Downs. That was what I meant to do. I checked your team every single day expecting to see that happen.

And I went to the cabin for the Thanksgiving weekend and lost. You dummy. Yeah. Whoops. Tight ends that let you down. Dalton Schultz just won for two. George Kittle, three for 19. This is what he does.

Jake Ferguson won for 35. Mr. Non-existent in the second half, Dalton Kincaid had six targets, five for 38, and then they didn't use him again. Yeah, he looked really good. And he was out there on every play. He looked really good. Like the five for 38 he got I thought was really nice. He got overthrown on one of those passes that wasn't his fault

and looked good and then disappeared. But all while Buffalo scoring and doing great, so you can't really criticize it. They go into the bye. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah, Gabe Davis, remember? Oh, yeah.

Isaiah Likely, four for 40. I'm taking that off. Yeah, take that out. I boo that. That's fine. Waver wire, four for 40? Yeah'm taking that off of the list. Yeah, take that out. I boo that. That's fine. Waver wire, four for 40? Yeah, that's fine. That's six points.

That's fine, Brooks. Well, take it out. Take it out, Brooks. It's not likely to win you a week. No, it isn't. But it's not likely to lose you one either. Yeah, I mean, it's certainly not. Oh, you would have lost by.84 if you played Hollywood.

Oh, all right. Good. Okay. Crazy. We didn't talk about Hollywood, but that Arizona game. Oh, how was – I mean, Kyler, I guess he had a rushing touchdown. That was one of the most abysmal offensive performances I've ever seen. Everyone wants to blame just the offensive line on it,

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