Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 12 Waivers + Playoff Prep, Difference Makers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/26

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Waiver Wire pickups for Week 12 on today’s fantasy football podcast! Find out which players can help you make a playoff push, and who is droppable at this stage of the fantasy football season! Plus,... QB streamers, injury updates, and more! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 26th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro  (05:45) - MNF Recap (09:15) - Difference Makers (15:40) - NFL News (22:40) - Waiver Wire (25:00) - RB Waivers (34:10) - WR Waivers (41:05) - TE Waivers (46:15) - DST Waivers (49:00) - QB Streamers Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Difference Makers presented by IAMS Pet Food News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Waiver Wire presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTubeTV. Visit youtube.com/fantasyfootballers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 and Mike Wright. Oh Welcome in The fantasy footballers Mike the fantasy hitman is here. I'm Andy Holloway joined as always by John new more and Excited to Have you with us on this fine waiver day Johnny, how are you? I'm doing very well. Thank you. I like to be a part of this great show and ruin Tyreek Hill Which he agrees with I don't know if you yeah everyone out there there I mean we had our fun with Johnny Smith yesterday on the show apparently a couple of
Starting point is 00:02:30 people misinterpreted our playful argument as me believing John who is more talented as a player than Tyree kill what that's what I heard which I know it is what you heard I want to set the record straight I do just by a small margin believe Tyree has been a better pro I was merely saying from a fantasy output Johnny Smith was what have you done producing lately but it was very funny because yesterday we had this whole debate Hall of Famer Jones this whole discussion where I was sharing my frustrations with John Smith saying that they shouldn't be involving him
Starting point is 00:03:06 as much in the offense, because it's not as good for the Dolphins themselves, and it's worse for Tyreek Hill, and Tyreek is greater sign John New Smith, whatever. And then both of you guys just trying to dunk on me for my stupid, stupid takes. And then Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill goes and tweets a meme,
Starting point is 00:03:23 the turning over your shoulder to look at another woman meme That was Mike McDaniel turning his turning his head to look at John who and a Chan instead of waddle and Tyreek And he he said that he basically agreed with it. Now two things can be true. That's true, which is Most of your vitriol was birthed from the fact Tyreek Hill and mostly Waddle have been deleted. And that is totally appropriate. We as fantasy players are all angry about the fact that these two long-standing valuable fantasy assets are not being utilized.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And I would add a third in there, and I think it might even be more important, not necessarily more important than Tyra Kehoe, but Tuah, Tuah himself has not been productive. Now this week, I know, he was like the quarterback, Tuah was extremely productive, but again, going back to it, that was because it was the Patriots defense.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But again, you're talking fantasy though. Yes, yes, yes, only fantasy. Because productivity, Tuah has been the single best. He's been the best quarterback, and the team is number one in scoring, and number one in EPA per play. So the argument yesterday was, are they playing good football?
Starting point is 00:04:36 They are winning all their games by scoring the most points in the league, and I think that's where me and Mike were making, having our fun. Since Tua has been back from the IR concussion stint, he's averaging 26 completions for 255 yards a game and over two touchdowns, which pace-wise is 4,337. A-doom!
Starting point is 00:04:59 Keir! 77% completion percentage, 116 pass a rating. So why hasn't he been good for fantasy outside of the terrible matchup against the Patriots? Why was he the quarterback 22-19 and 22 his first three weeks back? That's all I'm saying, I just care about fantasy. Look, if you're a Dolphins fan, I'm happy for you.
Starting point is 00:05:16 You're winning, you're scoring. And you know what, that's where you went wrong yesterday, is because you opened it not about fantasy. You opened it up about how horrible John who is for the offense. The wolf in sheep's clothing. You didn't not about fantasy. You opened it up about how horrible John who is for the offense. You didn't say for fantasy. Can we pivot to something we all agree about? It's too soon. Can we talk about Quentin Johnston instead?
Starting point is 00:05:38 Talk about last night's game. I mean. I do feel bad for him because it was a nationally televised game and because he had mostly buried the demons. Yeah, I mean the- Like he had been playing so well and the drop was just so significant last night and it was so- Drop?
Starting point is 00:05:59 Well, I'll say the drop because one drop- The first one? The one drop beget the other two drops. It was very clear that like, that one was the one that sent Greg Roman's head backwards in absolute, you know, it was so significant. It was the difference in the game. It was, you know, I lost my close matchup
Starting point is 00:06:19 because the Lamar didn't have to pass in the fourth quarter. Like that would have been a competitive game had he caught that pass. The ironic thing for Quinton Johnson is the gigantic awful collapse and what happened last night in public eye is only as big as it is because he's been playing well. Because people have bought in and believed, started him in fantasy, changed how they view about the poor rookie season he had, it was because he's been doing so well
Starting point is 00:06:56 that last night was this calamity. And I agreed with some of the commentary last night, and I've agreed with it for a while. We talked about the Chargers. It feels like they're one superstar away from being good. It felt that way again last night because of the drops, because of the fact that you have to lean on Lad McConkie the way you do.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Because you don't have Austin Eckler versatility in the backfield when you're leading runner. Eckler is still a good player. He's contributing in Washington. Losing Keenan Allen, they didn't add enough. Like drafting Lad McConkie wasn't enough to equip Justin Herbert, who's playing out of his mind with the weapons he needs. I mean, we all watch, you know who's happy about the huge drops? Like in a big way? Josh Palmer. Because Josh Palmer can't make a big play to save his life. Every competitive catch, Josh Palmer is like, eh.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. I'm too mid to do this. Like, but Q just dwarfed him in that capacity. So 30-23, big game from, you know, Derek Henry 24 for 140. Whew, guys, I mean, I mentioned it in our Slack slack but I just want to be on the record here. Thank goodness. Thank goodness after Derek and that drive where he got them all the way down in the end zone and then scored and they thought they were going to get away with that full crap illegal formation. You get illegal formations. You know what the like three inches off of the line? Not, no, not my NFL.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Thank you, Jason. I love Michael Keyes. Big ref over there is loving it. I did love it. I did love it because I had Lamar and then he ran it in on the next play and I was thrilled. So freaking stupid.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That play, Jason should love it too. That play literally won Jason his week. Yes it did because Derek Henry didn't get that touchdown which he deserved but 24 for 140 on the ground And we can't get this man a touchdown Mark Andrews five for 44 and a touchdown which when he scores everything's great lad McConkey six for 83 that is like Every week his line is gonna be you know six for 57 six for 61 six for 83 last night it's usually however many targets he has is how many
Starting point is 00:09:13 receptions he has that is really nice he's a quality player six targets his way five targets to Quinton Johnson you might not know that he had five targets because you see a goose, but he did. There were a lot of people that needed like one catch. So many. One catch from Quinton Johnson to win the league. Or vice versa, you needed him to be shut out and you watched these targets in the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah, so a little bit of a, go ahead. Big story is J.K. Dobbins. J.K. Dobbins got his knee injured in the game, tried to come back couldn't was ruled out I haven't heard any update, but obviously this being a waiver wire show That's a really impactful player a guy who has you know on the course of the season been Extremely important for fantasy scoring touchdowns being you know I don't know where he ranks right now on the season but he's got to be...
Starting point is 00:10:06 Dobbins? Yeah I mean... Oh very high. Yeah he is the running back 14 and that's including last night's you know injured game. Yeah I mean because of the drops and because of just not having enough weapons you expected more from Herbert last night production wise for fantasy because Baltimore is dead last against the pass. He had no touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:10:27 He had a rushing touchdown, but yeah. Yeah, no passing touchdowns, 218 passing yards, and so a little bit disappointing. We'll move on. ["Difference Makers Theme Song"] Welcome to Difference Makers, presented by I'm Sped Food. ["Difference Makers presented by I'm Sped Food. Well I'm excited to talk about this set of Difference Makers because we see it
Starting point is 00:10:54 each and every year and maybe it needs to be kind of reinforced in the minds of fantasy players. I think it does. We're talking about the one week wonders, the one week winners, the fact that a lot of fantasy championships have been won on the back of the bi-week, or not the bi-week filling, but rather the, you know, one week injury filling. We had Jared Patterson championship celebrations years ago, and right now, we're in a position
Starting point is 00:11:19 where you do have some injuries, and so we wanna bring up some difference makers that could make a difference just for this Thanksgiving week but maybe beyond you can throw Gus Edwards right into the mix right out of the gate because of the Dobbins injury going into next week but Bryan Robinson he is out Austin Eckler has the concussion so Jeremy McNichols right away becomes very interesting for a Thanksgiving Day game you have Josh Down, who's now being labeled week to week,
Starting point is 00:11:47 and suddenly, oh boy, I better hit this while I have a shot. Oh yeah! Michael Pittman! We are so back, everyone. He could be back for a week. You have Romeo Dobbs out with a concussion. So suddenly, Dontavia and Wicks could become relevant, and we just saw this happen.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Like, the waiver wire for running back has been thin. Yeah. Last week, people scrambled for Amir Abdullah and they got a good performance from Amir Abdullah for a one week step in, perform and get you a W you know, this happens each and every year. Players that you don't think are going to perform but have the right matchup, Schoonman last week with Ferguson being out, this is not going to be the only week
Starting point is 00:12:35 where you have a handful of concussions and twisted knees and rolled up ankles. It's going to happen here on out. And you are in the business of buying weeks, right? Mm-hmm. And Jeremy McNichols, like, speaking of, Amir Abdullah's success was, one, because he was getting all the snaps,
Starting point is 00:12:54 but because Amir Abdullah is, he's still a good pass-catching running back. Like, that's always been a specialty for him. Jeremy McNichols, for those who have been in fantasy for a long time, he was a, he was a he was a draft Twitter darling like years and years and years ago it never worked out for a for a real full-time role but people liked him partly because he has a
Starting point is 00:13:18 pass-catching profile in his history now we're talking ancient history but this is this is kind of what we have to go on here. He did have a couple seasons in Tennessee, 38 targets. He caught 28 of them for 240 yards. That's 8.6 yards per catch. That's a good number. And fun enough, he's playing against Tennessee this upcoming week.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So the matchup is not great for McNichols, but he is the last man standing. Of course, they will bring another body up onto the onto the team. You can't just go into an NFL game with one active running back. But McNichols has already been getting some run for the Washington Manders. He's ripped off a couple of huge runs. He had like the huge, was that the Cardinal game? He had a huge touchdown run, if I'm remembering it correctly. But he can make plays, but he can catch passes. Like he can go right into and fill that void
Starting point is 00:14:12 that Eckler had, or the role that Eckler was having for the Manders, and on top of that, just get other touches. So I think McNichols for a one week spot start is looking like it's a really strong opportunity here. Yeah, if you're talking about the true difference maker this week, Wicks, when he's on the field, has been targeted. It could be amazing. And he should be on the field more this week.
Starting point is 00:14:36 But McNichols is, I think, the difference maker. You're going to have him with a lot of work in a matchup where the Manders are projected to score a lot of points and this is a team that loves to run the ball inside the red zone. You already have McNichols with four touchdowns on the year, so he is clearly a difference-making pick-up this week. So some of these guys, it'll work into our waiver wire segment coming up shortly, but yeah, just keep in mind that you can win a week with a strategic pickup. That's why you should have, if you can,
Starting point is 00:15:11 a little bit of fab left over to be able to pick up one of those guys and also just stay ahead of the game. Staying ahead of the game. So let me, I don't have the advice to give you off the top of my head because I haven't, you know, we're just coming off of week 12, the specific advice of who to pick up, who to look at. But here is the piece of advice that you need to go do some work on yourself. Prepare for next week this week.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I'm telling everyone out there how next week is the final week before your playoff start in the vast majority of leagues. Those matchups are going to be for a lot of people, win and get in, lose and you're out. There are massive bye weeks next week. Look at your opponent's matchup. Go look at who you're playing. See what he has, what he... Oh, his quarterback is on bye next week. Let me pick up the quarterback with a good matchup next week this week. There are no buys this week. So I'm telling you, waivers are going through and unfortunately I don't, again, I don't have the week 14 great
Starting point is 00:16:15 pickups ahead right now. But look at your team, look at your needs, look at your matchup, look at your opponent's needs and plan next week this week, which is today for your waivers I'm telling you it's going to make a difference between whether you make the playoffs or not. Well, I mean in part as you see in particular Not this week, but next week is gonna be your final shot, right? So it is the most significant week It's Jason. You basically said your playoffs start a week early because you have to win your matchup Yeah, I'm a half game back of the playoffs and next week I play the guy I'm fighting against so it's like next week the playoffs start for me. Alright that was Difference Makers presented by I'ms Pet Food. When you choose I'ms you can see a difference in your pet with
Starting point is 00:16:55 your own eyes. Healthy energy in five days, healthy digestion in ten days, and healthy skin and coat in just 25 days. Feed I'ms, and see a visible difference. News and notes from around the league, presented by USAA Insurance. Well, it wasn't just J.K. Dobbins having Monday night troubles. We had Demarcus Robinson, Rams wide receiver, arrested for, I believe, potential DUI on Monday morning in Los Angeles So we will see what becomes of that. He was not often started but it's
Starting point is 00:17:36 Probably something that will have an effect next year. Yeah as the legal process plays out but worth knowing What else do we have David Montgomery was listed as a DNP. They did not practice. They have the Thursday game. He said he's good. He says he's good. I think it's important that we keep him in the questionable category in case the team makes a, as Dan Campbell said, bigger fish to fry decision.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah. Which they could potentially, you know, there's also a sad middle ground that no one wants to see, but that is the active, but doesn't play quite the allotment of snaps. Probably not the case, but if the game gets out of hand, which every Lions game lately has been getting out of hand. And they're the first Thursday game.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So they have the shortest week imaginable. And Dan Campbell mentioned that Amon Ross St. Brown is also banged up right now and didn't practice so We'll see what happens with those practice reports today It's it's being reported that Jake Ferguson is a long shot to play on Thursday. So Scoon man could be relevant once again Brandon cooks Limited still CD lamb limited. He's been limited and just goes out and catches like 10 passes for like 15 yards.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, I mean, if you're in full PPR, I think you're still happy with CD Lamb, but it's his A-dot, his, you know, targets or yards per outrun, those things have just plummeted like crazy, even though he's still getting, oh my gosh. 16 targets, I think, last week? Last week was 12 targets, but he had still getting oh my gosh. 16 targets I think last week? Last week was 12 targets but he had 17 targets a couple weeks. 17, 12, 10, 12, 12. The only
Starting point is 00:19:11 way you catch 10 of 12 targets from Cooper Rush is if they are close to the line of scrimmage. That's a great catch rate. Yeah 83%. Because they're handoffs. Josh Downs long shot to play this week so that's why we mentioned Michael Pittman. Aaron Rodgers, no discussion has been had by the head coach or the coaching staff about Rodgers being shut down. He's starting Sunday against Seattle. This is encouraging probably
Starting point is 00:19:35 if you are a Wilson-Adams manager that doesn't want the variable of a new quarterback and a complete punt of the season by the Jets, although they might as well. So there you go, and we're waiting on news about Isaiah Pacheco too, right? We are. The news for the Raiders, the Aiden O'Connell,
Starting point is 00:19:54 because it's kind of been all over the place, but the most recent thing that I saw was the Raiders are preparing for it to be Aiden O'Connell. I think it's gone beyond that now. I think they said that he's starting. OK, so maybe a full announcement. And then the Daniel Jones sweepstakes, if you want to call it that, we're
Starting point is 00:20:13 getting a report from George Sulz that the Raiders have been eliminated from signing contention. By Daniel or? I don't know. I think. So Daniel Jones has eliminated. I'm going to say something that is,
Starting point is 00:20:26 Okay. Is 100% You don't have to. It's 100% true. Daniel Jones is so much better than so many backups in this league, and he's so much better than what we got to see in New York. 100%, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I mean, you are correct. He is not ever going to be a franchise quarterback. Obviously not. He never was a franchise quarterback, won't be. And in my opinion, I don't think he should go to a team like the Raiders where there might be a team out there where he can go and start this week or next week. I believe his best situation is go to a well-run franchise
Starting point is 00:21:03 with a Super Bowl aspirations and be a backup. Learn and be the protective layer to you know actually go in and and and maybe Nick Foles something where... Yeah, Philly, San Francisco, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Kansas City, any of those places. Exactly. And you give yourself a shot. And he could win games for those teams if they're starters for him. I would go to the books and just see who the Super Bowl favorite is.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Just start, just go in order. And that's the order that I would go in. You want me? Yeah. I mean, they don't have to pay nothing. Unrestricted free agent now, right? He should really go to the Eagles, but I'm saying he can he can go my gosh I know say Kwan at sake one of my guys in division
Starting point is 00:21:53 That hurts gets hurt and Jones leads them to a Super Bowl championship with sake one. Oh, baby I am here for that and the Giants fold their franchise up and sell it off. Some men just want to watch the world burn and I would love to see that happen. Oh my gosh, that was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. We will take a break. We will jump into the waiver, I do want to comment one more. I got one more thing for Monday night, which is a simple question that I want to submit
Starting point is 00:22:37 to the winning team. Baltimore. To the rave. Is that okay? Yes. Why did you trade for Deontay Johnson? The depth, man. Why did you do that?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Oh, I, Why, but why? Why, because it cost the franchise absolutely nothing. No, I understand. I'm just a little bit surprised at the lack of integration into the offense. Like Deontay Johnson, the player, is not a depth backup caliber player.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Now moving mid-season, that's hard to do. See Amari Cooper, you know, it's difficult. But it is a little surprising how he is, what, six snaps? Yeah, six snaps. I mean, yes, it can be difficult, but this, what I had, when the trade happened, and I was bringing up, the NFL teams have,
Starting point is 00:23:32 they, at least with their actions, have said Deontay Johnson is not as valuable as us nerds think that he is. Despite, like, he can go out there and put a huge production. Steelers didn't want to re-sign him, got traded for not a ton. The Panthers were like, eh, we're good. We'll trade you away. Ravens trade nothing for him. Don't play him. There's something that we don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Well, I mean, you try overtaking Nelson Aguilar. That's a hard one to be better than. All right. Let's jump into the waivers. Welcome to The Waiver Wire, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Sounded like you caught some 1900s tuberculosis there, Jason. Listen, Nelson Aguilor has somehow turned himself in a fine career. Like the production is not massive, but I'm saying the average lifespan of an NFL player is what, like two and a half years? The dude was a complete total bust and yet
Starting point is 00:24:35 he's still around, still getting a paycheck. Have you seen the video? This is year 10. That's what I mean. That's an incredible NFL career. A decade of playing. And he's playing half of the snaps. He's 46% of the snaps for a Super Bowl contender right now.
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's crazy. Ten years in. He's the idol. He's the idol of MVS. Like, MVS looks at that career and is like, I can do that. Kyle, he's made about 50 mil? Yeah, look. Correct. He's doing great work.
Starting point is 00:25:08 He can thank Bill Belichick for some of that money because it wasn't that good. Oh yeah, they rushed out and signed him to a big contract. He was going to fix the Patriots' woes. He didn't. Also, having played 50% of the snaps for a Super Bowl contending team with the MVP of the league in Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I just want you to know, he has so far been on a 17-game pace. Like if he keeps playing as well as he has this year, he would finish with 18 receptions. Production's not there, but. 290 yards. You know what? Those checks clear, Jay. Okay. Yeah, he don't get paid per catch.
Starting point is 00:25:41 He must be an excellent blocker. Have you seen the Josh Johnson video, the quarterback, the backup, the perennial backup, where he goes through and the quiz him on how many teams, because he's played, he's played for 14 teams, but he's played for those 14 teams, it was 24 transactions. So he's played for Baltimore three times. He's played for the 49ers like two times.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like he goes through and he tries to go through his career and name them all in order. But can you imagine 24 changes at the NFL level? That's just. That's insane. I mean, that's life. I mean, you're living in different cities. And then a couple XFL stints in there.
Starting point is 00:26:20 But did I hit the waiver wire button already? You sure did. Let's talk about the two big running back pickups. Go ahead. Jeremy McNichols and Gus Edwards. Those are the, you know. Yeah. The Gus bus will be thrust into a very relevant role.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Oh, a Gus thrust? A Gus thrust. Ooh, wee-oo. You said, I feel like you led the train there, the bus. Look, here's the problem with Gus. And thrusting Gus. There's a lot of- Thrusting Gus into your lineup.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Lot of problems. The problem is that Gus is not a good player. And when I watch him play, he's not a good player, and he hasn't been all year. I'm worried about him catching the ball, I don't think is gonna happen. And then I worry about it being like, if he scores a touchdown, you get your eight points.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And so I'm a little just concerned about productivity. I'm concerned about it as well. In the context of how much you spend in FAB. Like he is, I would, between him and McNichols is very tough because we don't have the information on Dobbins, like is Dobbins really going to miss this week? Is he going to miss multiple weeks? Where McNichols just feels like this is a locked and loaded, if I desperately need an
Starting point is 00:27:37 RB2 for this week, I can go get Jeremy McNichols, but the Chargers, like they're already using tons of running backs. Hassan Haskins is getting snaps for the Los Angeles Chargers. Vidal Sassoon certainly will see an uptick in work and draft Twitter will lose its mind, but while Gus is at the top of the waiver list, it's hard to, like you're saying Andy, it's hard to know what would you actually spend on him? Should you burn a number one priority on him? If you have Dobbins, I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And if you need a running back, these are the two names, but they aren't without their red flags is all I'm saying. McNichols plays the Tennessee run defense that just shut Mixon down, which is why, Mike, I think you're focusing on the passing game. Yes. But both of them have, they're the best of what is out there.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Well, I mean, some league says Jalen 10 points Warren out there still. I'm just gonna throw that out. You look like you had something to say, Jay. I did and then I almost threw up. But no, I would put McNichols ahead of Gus Edwards because I think there's more clarity on the injuries around him.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I would be very, very, I mean, there is still a little bit of nebulous. We're not 100% sure with B. Rob if he's going to be back. But usually what that ankle injury looked like and the progress is that I'm confident that Brian Robinson B-rob if he's gonna be back, but usually what that ankle injury looked like and the progress is that I'm confident that Bryan Robinson is not going to be available and we know that with Eckler's Concussion and being multiple concussions. He's gonna be gone so I think McNichols and the passing work would be my number one Gus would be my number two and
Starting point is 00:29:21 Warren would be Number three that you you also can bring up Amir Abdullah. I don't have an update on Zameer White, who in and of his own right should be considered four waivers. If he were to be active, you would expect it to be kind of a one-two punch. The nice thing that we saw from Amir Abdullah
Starting point is 00:29:41 is that they didn't trust another running back. Right. You didn't know coming in. Lauby. Yeah, if Lauby was gonna get a lot more work or just be involved in special teams. Amir Abdullah played 90% of the snaps. So it's a bad matchup against Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:29:59 But all those guys I think are at the top of the pickups to play this week. Mike, how do you order them? I look, I'm still putting Warren at the top and then I'm going to go McNichols and then Gus. Yeah, it is. We need more news, to be honest, about Dobbin's knee injury and how long term it is. That might flip Gus to the very tippy top. There is a... If we heard that it was a season-ender... There is a Gus trust by the coaching staff? If it turns out by the time waiver is clear that this is a season-ending injury for
Starting point is 00:30:35 Dobbins, then Gus is a must pick up in all leagues. Spend your fab, burn your priorities, make him number one. A couple of the insurance backs coming back from buy I think are worth surfacing, like Ray Davis and Braylon Allen in case people drop them for the buy week. Sure. Pay attention to those names
Starting point is 00:30:52 because they're worth rostering in the event of injuries. They would be significant pickups. Why not have them ahead of time? Yeah, of course it is insurance back season. And then we don't know where Tank Bigsby is on the injury but I want to bring his name up one because he's you know pretty available here and was at least getting touches before before the injury but there was a blurb yesterday of Doug Peterson being so sneaky getting so many advantages saying that he has changed a lot of stuff internally.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Oh, right. We're not going to say what it is. He was not willing to disclose what the changes were. Within his own body, or are you talking about within the organization? Oh, we have no idea. We don't know. How could you know?
Starting point is 00:31:37 That feels like an advantage. If I was the opposing team, and I didn't know whether he had had an epidemic to me, or changed the coaching staff. I would be confused. Yeah, you're going into that game plan saying, what's changed? Quote, he made some in-house changes during the buy, but he's keeping the details under wraps.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Oh, that could have been wallpaper and stuff. It could. It could have been. We have no idea. Could have been furniture. I'm guessing there is a chance that we never actually even find out once the game plan rolls out Sunday,
Starting point is 00:32:04 but I'm bringing up Tank as in. You think maybe that's the change? I think there's, what if the change is. He's quarterback now? Tank pigs me? Yeah, we made a change. But what if he's gonna start? Like what if he's gonna take on a bigger role?
Starting point is 00:32:21 He didn't even play, he was hurt. Cause he's hurt, that's what I'm saying. He's hurt, I don't know. I don't choose my hurt guys for my in-house changes. I do like, you know, I get the paint roller out, I change the paint color of a room or two, I don't take my injured guys and make them starters. That one doesn't make sense to me. Oh, okay. You just keep playing your guy who sucks. Well, that being Travis, yes. Travis CTN doesn't suck, the team sucks.
Starting point is 00:32:45 The team is the least productive offense in football. The number one, in fact the advice that I think that the Jaguars provide fantasy players right now, is they're the number one team I'm targeting from a defensive perspective. So I mean Travis CTN is caught in the blender of doom. I think he's also not as good of a running back. So I'm just not, that's my personal opinion. I think that there is a chance for that with how wild things are going for the Jags.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah. Tank Bigsby's last two games playing were not impressive performances. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know if anybody can do anything in this offense right now. That's, you know. It's a quarterback issue as much as we know that Trevor Lawrence is not worthy of the
Starting point is 00:33:33 contract he got being, you know, the highest paid player in history. He is still such a significant upgrade over Mack Jones. And maybe, you know, we don't have an update coming out of the by on Trevor Lawrence's injury and whether he's, that to me, Brian, you know, when you're talking about Brian Thomas, Travis Etienne, Tank Bixby, everything relies on whether or not Trevor Lawrence is going to be the starter this week.
Starting point is 00:33:58 The change that Doug Peterson made, for all we know, it's C.J. Beathard. C.J. Beathard is gonna be the quarterback over Mac Jones because they put Trevor Lawrence on IR, so we'll just have to keep our ears to the news. Seven points against Minnesota, six points against Detroit, and they have the privilege of Houston, Tennessee, and the Jets coming up.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It's getting gross. Now, I am validated by the fact that it made no sense that people reporting Peterson would be fired if he lost to the Lions Which he wasn't fired it made no sense Because there was no chance of them beating the Lions with the backup quarterback the firing of a coach like firing Peterson at this point is just It's it's like it's the equivalent of a rage drop for
Starting point is 00:34:42 For fantasy football. It's not, I don't know that it's really going to help the Jags. You're still going to owe him money. You're going to just cause more ruckus in your locker room. So I understand not firing him at this point. It's just a, OK, we're too angry. We can't even have you in the building. Yeah, just let him know.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Be like, hey, dude, you're fired. But will you finish the season? You know what I mean? Like, we want to start our process and look. I don't even think you in the building. Yeah, just let him know. Be like, hey, dude, you're fired. But will you finish the season? You know what I mean? Like, we want to start our process and look. I don't even think you have to say that. You're like, hey, Doug, come into my office. Have a seat. Oh, what's up?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Why am I here? You know why you're here. You know why you're here. You know why you're here. Just finish the season. But you might want to start cleaning some things out. Shop around your resume. Actually, it'd be the most genuinely nice thing
Starting point is 00:35:28 you could do if he agreed to stay. You know. Wide receiver pickups, guys. What are the top names on your list? Because you saw Adam Thielen get involved, and Bryce Young looked better, even though the matchup was tough. 3 for 57 for Adam Thielen.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And you had David. I'm pretty proud of you. You had David Moore. David Moore had 10 targets, six for 81 in a touchdown. That would be Carolina Panthers wide receiver David Moore. Living his own Nelson Aguilar career. The Panthers. Seattle, Green Bay, Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:36:02 The Panthers wide receivers are an interesting one for waiver wire pickups this week because Bryce Young has looked a little better the matchup this week is Tampa Bay so you expect Bryce Young to actually have a good amount of yards throwing the ball this week and so but it's a it's a three-headed monster and you've got to decide do you want to go with the you know first round rookie Xavier Le to decide do you want to go with the you know first-round rookie Xavier Ligette do you want to go with the old man Adam Thielen or last week's you know leader in David Moore but I do think there will be value from one of those three guys this week. I've also brought his name up now three straight weeks Nick Westbrook Ekeene scored again again every week plays every
Starting point is 00:36:46 snap of the game basically they upset Houston they get a take on Washington this week which is you know Washington has been losing ballgames but it's you can't play them I don't understand man I want to I want to read you the reception total since the bye week in week five. Okay, since week five, this is a long period of time. Here's his catches in the game. One, two, two, five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Three, two, two. Total catches, but now I wanna read you touchdowns. One, one, one, one, zero, one, one. All this dude does is catch a touchdown every game. You can't bank on that though. You can't bank on it, but you can start it if you're in trouble in the event. You know, he's out there every snap.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Since Hopkins has been out, he's been out there every snap. So you can do worse is all I'm saying. If you got a guy that scored five or six or six or seven weeks now, you can at least take a shot there. How are you viewing the Green Bay situation? If Dobbs is going to miss and the opportunities for Christian Watson, Dontavian Wicks go up,
Starting point is 00:37:57 even Jayden Reed, obviously this isn't for waivers, he's rostered, but how do you view that wide receiver core this week? Reid, Watson, Wicks, Butterman, Bo Mountain. Yeah that's that's how I would order it as well. Kraft, mixed in. That's how I would order the wide receivers. We got Butterman and Kraft? It's delicious. Just need some milk in there but the but the they're all playable like one one or two of the three could end up having a really strong game I mean it's wicks you're at risk his biggest problem is the fact that he can't he watches Quentin Johnston film to learn how to catch I mean he is yeah his catch rate is 138 out of 139 wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:38:47 He catches 38% of his passes. And so the times that we've had earlier in the year, this is not the first time Dante Van Wicks has come up on a waiver show. It's like the third. And there were chances he was out there every snap and it still didn't produce because, you know, he gets the targets.
Starting point is 00:39:04 He's targeted on 30% of the routes he runs, which is awesome. Just catches. His athleticism, his body control, he's so good at getting open. Yeah, he just doesn't catch the football. He just can't catch. So he's a risk, and that's why I would go Watson
Starting point is 00:39:16 above him just because. If Watson is on waivers, which he is in about 40% of leagues, I would go decently hard at him. I think that Christian Watson is a good play this week, and it's hard to want to play someone coming off of such a bad game. But that's just how wide receivers are. I mean, wide receivers are, you know, they're inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And so if you only do whatever happened last week, you're almost always gonna catch the bad weeks. Elijah Moore, don't forget about Elijah Moore. They had a terrible snow game for Cleveland, but he's on the field and gets a ton of targets. Jason, if it's Westbrook-Kokine and the touchdown dependency or Elijah Moore and the ugly targets, Elijah Moore's never struggled
Starting point is 00:40:05 to get targets, he's always struggled to get yards and fantasy production. Which of those two would you spot start? If I'm in any kind of half PPR, full PPR, I would certainly go Elijah Moore. I believe that James Winston is gonna continue throwing the ball a lot even in these difficult matchups and Elijah Moore will have enough receptions
Starting point is 00:40:23 to have a good baseline. Phelan or Elijah Moore? Phelan. I'd go Elijah Moore will have enough receptions to have a good baseline. Feeling or Elijah Moore? Feeling. I'd go Elijah Moore. And a reminder for a name who he is not going to play. Oh, no, sorry, that was a report from last week. But Keon Coleman, I don't know where we are with the injury, but he has been, like, his roster percentage on Sleeper
Starting point is 00:40:44 I'm seeing right now is 61%. So it is higher, but there's a chance that someone had to drop Keon Coleman to make a move. So this is almost like a get ahead of it. I don't know if he's going to play against the, where were you up? Week 13, sorry, San Francisco. I don't know if he's playing this week or not, but- He should be back. He was breaking out. Yes. I don't know if he's playing this week or not, but.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He should be back. He was breaking out. Yes, thank you. The last two games before he got injured, he had seven targets in each of them, 125 yards in one, 70 in a touchdown, and then he got injured the next game, and we haven't seen him in a month now. He'll be back, but they'll also get Dalton Kinkade back this week, so, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:23 And Amari Cooper will be more and more involved working through his wrist injury. It's a name to pay attention to, but hard to trust a starter there. Yeah, yeah. What about MVS? You chasing that dragon? He's worth putting on a roster.
Starting point is 00:41:40 They don't have anybody else to throw the football to. I mean, he had. I mean, he's very Nick Westwrecker key. 87 yards and 109 yards. Yeah. Who would you rather start between Nick Westbrook-Akene and MBS? I mean, they are so similar.
Starting point is 00:41:54 They both have last names that are hyphenated. I'd rather have MBS. Yeah, the hyphenation station. And they get a couple of deep targets. It's MBS for me because he's got a man. And he's playing the Rams, Giants, Washington coming up. I would roll that out there.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Especially because he's got a bi-week, he could have gotten more integrated as well. The fact that he did what he did with just arriving on the roster, I don't know. I lean that way. No, I do too. I think he's not a bad pick up. All right, we'll take a break
Starting point is 00:42:20 and then we'll hit tight ends, defenses, and quarterbacks. Well, hopefully you stashed him last week. He was one of the top pickups, but he's still sitting at 64% rostered. So we'll mention him coming off the buy, Taysom Hill and his 40 point performance, the tight end wide receiver running back quarterback combo that is Taysom Hill, the weirdest player that ever existed could be the weirdest player that's ever helped you win a title. I mean he is probably the number one pickup of the week across all positions you just have a chance at having someone that is gapping other players at the position you know there's very rare that you can have any kind of tight
Starting point is 00:43:05 end put up 30 points. That's just impossible. He does it semi-regularly and now they need him so much and they've just involved him in every aspect of their offense in ways that are wildly weird for a 34 year old. Yes. But, I mean, he's out there. He's catching passes, he's throwing passes, he's running, and when they get near the goal line, he is probably their best scoring threat. I mean, if I'm inside the five,
Starting point is 00:43:38 and I had to bet who scores a touchdown between Alvin Kamara and Taysom Hill, I'd push my chips towards Taysom Hill. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that probably got picked up last week after the 40-point performance. But if you look at this next guy, target-wise, he is lapping Terry McLaurin over the last handful of weeks, eight, seven, eight.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Zach Ertz is the tight end eight, is likely out there, and should be on your roster. So eight targets, seven targets, eight targets, incredible. 31 yards, 47 yards, 38 yards. With a touchdown in two of those games. I know, I'm just saying it's very, it's usually not valuable targets. They're very short, fall down.
Starting point is 00:44:30 But, but yeah. That's why you started Scoot Man though, you knew he'd be out there and getting targets. Yes, so let's talk between, you know, Zach Ritz and Cole Comet. Cole Comet now, in the two weeks, the two weeks since Shane Waldron's firing, he wasn't great two weeks ago against Green Bay, but we talked about the behind the scenes metrics were really
Starting point is 00:44:50 good. He was out there 97% of snaps. He was running all the routes. He was involved in the passing game script wise, like planning that they made him their tight end. This last week, 10 targets, seven for 64. I think he is a much better player. Like when you watch what Zachary can do on the field
Starting point is 00:45:12 and you watch what Colt Comet can do on the field, Colt Comet is an elite option, I believe, right now. So- Sidebar, are we back into the Cliff Kingsbury offense fades in the second half of the season? Period of his career. I think we are Last week you had some you know the nine points with five minutes left to go in the game against Dallas exactly the inflation of the the
Starting point is 00:45:37 Wacky circus show at the end of that commanders Cowboys game You know where everybody basically stunk. Jayden Daniels had a bad game. Terry McLaurin had a bad game. Everybody was like didn't have a lot of fancy points until three minutes left to go in the game. So I do worry about the the rest of season commander's offense. But can you trust, I guess, getting back to Cole Comet, can you trust Caleb Williams? No. You can't really trust any like certain volume from, I guess, getting back to Colk Kmet, can you trust Caleb Williams? No. You can't really trust any certain volume from,
Starting point is 00:46:08 I mean, same conversation, Keen and Allen is rostered, but also was cut by people. Do you trust that Keenan gets that level of targets? Do you trust Aduinze? Do you trust DJ Moore? At least DJ Moore's targets are now being manufactured in short area, letting him do his thing. Cole Comet, we've been here before many, many times.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He had weeks with 11 targets, dropped to three, right? Do I trust it? No, no I don't, I'm terrified of it. Okay, and what about Schoonmaker? Should get one more opportunity on Thanksgiving. If you want a fun player to watch, you wanna sing Schoonman on Thanksgiving Oh, it's fun every time he catches the ball
Starting point is 00:46:48 So let's talk to Zach Ertz, Colkommet, Schoonmaker Order those three for just a weekly start so you got Colkommet, Zach Ertz and Schoonmaker Those are the three yeah, just who you would start this week only I would start Ertz and then I'd probably start the Schoonman and then I'd probably start Komet. I would go Komet, Ertz, Schoonman. I think I'd go Schoonman first. So we just did three different answers?
Starting point is 00:47:14 Nice. Yeah and then Komet and Ertz. You be the judge. Make your own decisions at home. Interesting, yeah I'm just gonna chase what I think the highest target share is But Who knows I mean who really knows this is uh, that is the second tier third tier tight end Gamble that you're you're hoping you sign Taysom Hill last week
Starting point is 00:47:39 So defensive options this week, who do you love? Like of the low trying to look at the low roster teams. You know Arizona 10 fantasy points last week despite the loss only give up 10 points on the road takes on a Minnesota offense that has been hit and missed. Do you like Arizona? Yeah I would definitely start them against Minnesota it's on the road so that part I don't love. It's the, do you trust the Dallas Cowboys against Tommy DeVito and Will Levis? Just like, man. Getting crushed in the pocket, it's up there of their favorite things to do. The Cowboys defense was significantly injured for a large chunk of this season.
Starting point is 00:48:31 They now have Micah Parsons back, they've got Diggs back, their defense has been playing better recently. And if you combine that with looking at Danny DeVito on the other side and not worrying about how short and bald he is. I would also pretty old. I mean, Danny DeVito. 70s? 80s? He might be in the 80s now.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Oh, I'm on it. Can we get this? Danny DeVito. We haven't been to Deuce's Alley in a while, but they've been here. He is 80 years old. 80 years young. I reckon one shot, like one hit.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Yeah, Micah Parsons can take it. Is that it? Yeah. Game over? Yeah. Life. The Penguin goes down. We would be celebrating.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Gotham is saved. Yeah, he wasn't very dangerous, Penguin, but. No, no. Man, I like Danny DeVito. Oh, that dude's awesome. He's the best. But it would take a few sacks. But you know who I don't really like his Tommy DeVito.
Starting point is 00:49:27 No, I mean, New York is in big, big trouble. Dallas, the win last week, still playing hard. I'm with you on that. Obviously, Kansas City's heavily rostered. They have one of the best matchups, because they play Aiden O'Connell's return on Friday. What about the? Wait, so do we have football? We've got Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Monday? Correct. Thursday. Yeah, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I think Saturday's coming up here pretty soon. Would you play the Seahawks against Rogers? Yeah, I think they're an okay play. Targeting the Jets has worked for the last couple months. Yeah, alright. A reminder today's waiver wire was brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. We're racing to the playoffs right now and race. And right now you can get the NFL Sunday Ticket for the rest of the NFL season for only $89. Sign up now at youtube.com slash fantasy footballers. The offer ends December 2nd. Terms and embargoes apply.
Starting point is 00:50:24 No cancellations. Full stream ahead. I would think, Danny DeVito's only 4'10". Height wise, so he's gonna get some passes batted down too. Yeah, by a butt. Full stream ahead, I'm gonna go Geno Smith against those Jets, the volume has been there, they're throwing it a butt. Full stream ahead, I'm going to go Geno Smith against those Jets. The volume has been there.
Starting point is 00:50:47 They're throwing it a ton. Geno's on pace for what did I say, like 650 plus passing attempts. So as a streaming option this week, going against a Jets defense that has kind of mailed it in since week six, they're dead last in schedule adjusted fantasy points. The quarterbacks, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba breakout campaign they're throwing the ball to
Starting point is 00:51:08 Kenneth Walker yeah I'm going I'm gonna take the volume there against the defense that's just not been good I like Gino a lot my stream of the week is gonna be Matthew Stafford if you haven't been paying attention he's been pretty darn good over the last five games now that he's got his weapons back with Puka and Cooper out there, he's averaging basically 20 fantasy points per game. 37 pass attempts, two and a half touchdowns a game. Since week eight, he's the quarterback seven,
Starting point is 00:51:35 and the Rams are at home in a dome with a 48 and a half point over-under against the Saints who aren't a great defense. You could do a lot worse than Stafford this week. And I'm going with the hat trick. It's Russell Wilson, who, which when I made him my stream last week, I was unaware that Thursday was going to turn into the snow game that it was.
Starting point is 00:51:55 So hopefully you were able to bail out there at the last second. But now he gets the matchup with Cincinnati, who's 30th and schedule adjusted fantasy points to the quarterback. It wasn't the end of the world last year, last week with Russ in that snow game. I think it's gonna be much, much better this week. But all that, so these three guys, their roster percentage is higher.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And if you, I don't know, if stuff went crazy for you, I'm going to say it, because the guy has literally been a top 12 quarterback in back to back weeks. It's Cooper Rush, who plays on Thursday. He plays against an awful, awful opponent. And he is just, he is volumizing his way into being a competent fantasy quarterback. Yeah, I don't mind it. I don't mind it. You know, last week was impressive. Getting it done.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I mean, the game was slow the week before. You know, you always have garbage time potential with him too, but in this matchup, should be heavily favored. I wonder how much they lean on your boy Rico. I think there's going to be a lot of Rico this week. Well, you know, uh... Did he catch the football last week? Yeah. Nice. how much they lean on your boy Rico. I think there's gonna be a lot of Rico this week. Did he catch the football last week? Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:53:08 That's always, it's up there, man. That's up there for him. He had a Stonehands week. Yeah, last week, three, he caught all three targets for 12 yards, but given that Rico got his season high, or tied his season high in opportunities and just dominated the the running back rush here that means that Jerry Jones will be buzzing down to
Starting point is 00:53:30 Mike McCarthy to play Zeke who was the original Stonehands the Bears running back Joe his name is escaping me it's Jordan Howard Howard yeah yeah man always tried to catch every pass with his hands like an alligator. It was so weird. And every offseason, he'd spend all those hours on the jugs machine. It's like, in the NFL, given the right circumstances,
Starting point is 00:53:57 any one of those players could catch a pass. And so Jordan Howard just, it never worked. Despite being a great on the ground, a one, two down running pack, he's a good catch. Yeah, it never worked. Despite being like a great on the ground, a one, two down running pack, good catch. Did you, a couple things. One, if you haven't checked it out, go to jointhefoot.com. All of our waiver rankings,
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Starting point is 00:54:36 what teams have the other guys, and who to target. So avail yourself of that at jointhefoot.com to get access. And I don't know if you knew this, but tomorrow is. Oh, I'm going to bed right now. Tomorrow is the Megalodon episode. I mean, you getting a good 16 hour sleep in? I hope so. Yeah, I mean, this is gonna be, it's the biggie.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, all wrapped into one supersized Megalodon. I'm gonna go do a cold plunge. Episode. I'm gonna do a sauna. You're doing it all? Yeah. Like today or before the show tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:55:09 I'm doing it right now so that I can go get those 16 hours. Drink your caffeine. No, no, no caffeine today. Megalodon. I'm in tomorrow. All right, that'll do it for today's episode of the show. But we're back with the Megalodon tomorrow, so join us then. Should be a lot of fun.
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