Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 14 Matchups + League Drama, Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/6

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

Set your lineups for Week 14! On today’s fantasy football podcast, more game breakdowns and start/sit decisions! Plus, injury updates, Mike spins the Wheel of Shame, and a recap of Thursday Night Fo...otball!  Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for December 6th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (09:45) - FootClan Friday (11:15) - NFL News (15:50) - Fantasy Forecast (16:00) - Raiders at Buccaneers (21:40) - Seahawks at Cardinals (27:05) - Bills at Rams (30:15) - Bears at 49ers (35:40) - Chargers at Chiefs (41:10) - Bengals at Cowboys (46:30) - Fantasy Faceoff/Wheel of Shame Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Studio is brought to you by Amazon Prime News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:20 The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is brought to you by Amazon Prime. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballer's Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in the fantasy footballers Friday December 6th welcome in one and all thank you for listening thank you for following the show supporting this podcast of champions Jason Morris here Mike Wright I'm Andy Holloway the deuces are in the building Al Borland Papa Josh Josh, the Falcon. What's up, Food Clan?
Starting point is 00:02:27 You know what, there was a little bit of muscle memory. I almost said Judge Ziamati, who is, he is, you know. He's in the shadows. He's always listening in the shadows, but he's not in the studio, which would have been a mistake. He is as bald as Papa Josh, but not as smelly. If we had a bald off.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Bricks doesn't clean shave, he just buzz shaves. Yeah. Let's see. That's the next step. Yeah, but that means he's not as bald as Josh. Right. Bic is bald. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:03 But I feel like when you say bald It's implied that you can't grow. I agree with you I feel like it's a little bit of there are no Active hair follicles there if you're bald like the most bald person is if like you and Josh and and Brooke That's the real all just let it grow and then we right see how absent certain areas are. I would win that contest if it's only amongst those three. Really? Oh, you would win the contest as in you would be the least baller.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Oh, I'd have the luscious locks. You would. To see the three of you with shoulder-length hair. Just so thin, so disgusting. Oh my gosh. Let it get a little sweaty. We've got match-ups today. We've got NFL news.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We've got the fantasy face-off. We've got the Wheel of Shame. I was thinking on the drive-in just, I saw a stat about cousins leading the league in both interceptions and fumbles. Yeah, he's doing work. And I thought about the way that things have gone for the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And then I thought about the Minnesota Vikings. And just how incredible the NFL is that there are so many teams that thought they fixed the quarterback position. The excitement with Caleb Williams in Chicago or Aaron Rodgers in New York or Kirk Cousins in Atlanta. It was like we did it. We fixed it. And then the despair in Minnesota. Oh gosh, we're stuck with Sam Darnold. Yeah. I mean, they lost their... Yeah. Well, it was exciting.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It was exciting. It was going to be JJ McCarthy, a rookie who I loved. I thought it was going to fit in well in the system. And then it was sadness of, of oh it's Sam Darnold all year. And so Darnold in Minnesota and then the Russell Wilson Justin Fields in Pittsburgh right? And Bo Nix in Denver. Yep. The unexpected quarterback Savants and then the people that thought they had it fixed. It's weird. Now would it surprise you to know that Atlanta is leading the division? Ha ha ha. That is funny.
Starting point is 00:05:08 They're in the playoffs right now at 6 and 6. So there you go. That is the worst. I mean, we know that in fantasy football. When you're in your division with four teams, and three of them all have 10 wins, or I mean, because we use league media, whatever whatever it is and you look over at the other division and someone is going to get like this is our the Dino. This is not a hypothetical Dino junior where Jason
Starting point is 00:05:34 I co-manage the team that is like is universally loved sweeping the nation can't stop winning universally loved. I'm not sure about that part. Everyone loves it. Loves our team. And we're over here. We're fighting for the bye week. We're 11 and 2. Yeah, 11 and 2 fighting for the bye week. Other guy that's going to get the buy?
Starting point is 00:05:57 500. Yeah. What is that? That actually, I was going to bring the same thing up. Like, it's not the best two records. It's the best two records that win a division in fantasy. Yeah, there's gonna be a there's gonna be a vote coming up Yeah, that's dumb. I Think that's dumb. Yeah, it is because but also there's no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Starting point is 00:06:17 No, but also it's dumb. Well, okay alternate argument Okay, the reason that certain people in a division in fantasy have the records that they do is often because the other side of their division is very, very bad. That's why, I mean, if you have a lot of parity, your records are gonna be kind of even and then maybe the better team is the worst record because you're not playing bad division mates twice. Yeah, except our entire division is awesome. All I hope is that it goes the opposite after you vote for it. I just hope that next year, you have like a 9 and 6 record or something, and then you know.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Let's just say the person in third in our division has a better record than the person who's going to get the bye week. Yeah. Third in our division. It hurts. You know who's third in their division? The Green Bay Packers. And they're 9 and 4. Yeah. You know what? They It hurts. You know who's third in their division? The Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And they're nine and four. Yeah, you know what? They're not getting a bye week. Did that count as an almost upset? What was the line? Was the line three and a half? The line was three and a half. Boom, baby.
Starting point is 00:07:14 You're covered. I mean, the game started and it was like, oh, the lines are just too good to be, you know, in a competitive game. 34-31. It was an awesome game. Yeah, the game itself was awesome. And it was, there were fantasy players
Starting point is 00:07:32 that were very, very good. But I think what stuck out for fantasy playoff anticipation were two bad performances. It was number one overall bad performance. Yeah, go ahead and get the wet fart out there. I Mean this was this was a this was a This was an alt coin rug pull yeah If you put your money into Jayden Reed, you know, I was pulled. Yeah, but who made the money was it Jake? Nobody Jake made that money. So Jayden Reed had one target, no catches
Starting point is 00:08:08 in a game that the Packers scored 31 points. Now, I will say this. Jordan Love completed 12 passes in the game. So you watched it and you felt that short drives that didn't go anywhere, running game that was successful and a big play here and there to get them down the field and you know a turnover on a fourth down that shortened the field. It's insane if Jordan Love 12 completions and it what you like yes Josh Jacobs had a monster fantasy day but you're like oh man he must have ran for like 150 or something no 66 yards where did these points come from? It was all touchdowns man it short fields. They got inside the five they gave it to Josh Jacobs He said I can I can see the end zone and he scored over and over and over but the other the other
Starting point is 00:08:56 Side was actually what you got from alma and rossine brown. It was five for 43 his worst performance of the season Thank you, Mike. You are playing a key role here on this Friday I'm out. I'm here for the people that was pain So I'm in raw five for 43 which he has actually had a pretty bad run He's been single digits three straight weeks and in a game where Jared golf passes for nearly 300 completes 32 passes throws three touchdowns you Needed more from Amon Ran. Now you've got the fantasy playoffs coming up for redemption,
Starting point is 00:09:29 but David Montgomery, Jameer Gibbs, ho hum, we did what we did. They just do it every single week. I don't understand how they can be so consistent. 11 receptions between them, 29 carries between them, two touchdowns between them, and nice game from Jameson Williams, five for 80. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So that's what you got. Christian Watson caught a couple big passes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're already done talking about lines? Tim Patrick? Yeah, baby! Fireball Jones! Fireball Jones!
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's not that I don't wanna talk about him, it's that he just, in the the family lady he meant nothing. Yeah Represented oh, that's not I'm on raw who oh, it's him again The people will be very sad to learn because our because our team is so universally loved Mike our oh, yeah She's a champ team We we made a mistake and as a commission, I'm planning on fixing this. Of course, yeah, fix it in your favor.
Starting point is 00:10:29 But we played Jayden Reed. Yeah, which, for the record, we had put Tim Patrick in, and there was a, something happened. A bug in the system, so we're gonna fix it. We're just gonna do the mistakes next time. We're trying to understand how the Champ Champ Champ happened a little bit more. You would not believe how many bugs are in this league.
Starting point is 00:10:47 One touchdown from Tucker Kraft, that was nice to see. And Don Tavian Wicks, he got involved. It was okay. Yeah, I was fine. Off of a waiver wire, you should be happy with four for 49. All right, it's Friday But clan Friday Every Friday we give away $100 gift card to fantasy champs calm. It's a good reminder that the season Yeah, go to fantasy champs calm if you need trophies rings
Starting point is 00:11:25 championship belts plaques for your trophy, anything in the championship realm. That's why they're called Fantasy Champs. So we give $100. Me and Jay got that thing on speed dial. Mm-hmm. Because of the bugs. No, it's one click for our art.
Starting point is 00:11:40 It's a red phone. And then a plaque shows up. We've been asking them to add the check box. I don't like this bit. We've been asking them to add the checkbox We've been asking them to add the checkbox to just make it an annual subscription, right? Because I don't want to forget, you know and just every year it's like I got another trophy Oh, yeah, show me last year's. It's in the mail. Yeah All right, we give a hundred. There were a lot of bugs. There were a lot of bugs last year Oh, okay. All right, we give a hundred.
Starting point is 00:12:02 There were a lot of bugs. There were a lot of bugs last year. We give away a $100 gift card to fantasychamps.com and a fantasy footballers t-shirt every Friday to say thank you to a supporter at jointhefoot.com. Today's winner, now we always read the username. Yeah. And sometimes it's weird.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Omega fireball yo-yo walking the dog is the winner today. Wow. Sometimes I wonder if like- Something going on that even I don't know about. These are random, right Al? Correct. Okay, all right. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Today's news for Fantasy Football. I'm going to liken it to when you start to see volcanic activity and you have to evacuate the city nearby and you see the bubbling and you know like I'm gonna tell you right now we're gonna go through these names something's gonna blow. If you listen closely, you can hear it. Just hold on, hold on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah, no, no, it's bad. It's bad because somebody's not playing, gentlemen. Breeze Hall, sideline again on Thursday. I don't feel good about Breeze Hall this week. Tyree Kill, return from a limited practice, hooray. All right, we're good. Devonte Smith practiced in full. Oh, all right. Should be back.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Uh-oh, middle league neighbors, limited with a groin injury. Cedric Tillman, still not practicing. He won't play. Mike Evans, here you go, give me that sound effect again. Mike Evans, hamstring calf injury, both him and Bucky Irving still sideline on Thursday. Here are the two I'm most worried about.
Starting point is 00:13:51 DK Metcalf and Kenneth Walker and mostly my number one worry right now, Kenneth Walker, Bryce Hall, because Kenneth Walker was downgraded. It's an ankle and calf injury and it doesn't look good. Now, Matt Calf was DMP, DMP, and a full practice last week with the shoulder. We've got the precedent that he plays. But the downgrade for Walker scares me a little bit. We have seen Walker essentially do this,
Starting point is 00:14:21 where he doesn't practice and then plays. See, we need runner, Mike. We don't just need Walker. We need the true Ken Bone to show up. So I'm saying there is still a chance that Walker plays. But the fact that this is what is going on with him right now and being ineffective the last few weeks, which I mean, the offensive line has really been letting him down.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But this is, you need to have the eyebrows up and be ready. So it does feel scary there. We didn't see DeAndre Swift back at practice yet. We've got new injury report for Jacoby Myers, who was added on Thursday with an ankle. That worries me. Yeah. And Amir Abdullah added to the injury report,
Starting point is 00:15:10 so Sincere could be in play. Sincere McCormick. That is just, where does that name belong? Is it a Wild West town? Sincere McCormick. Is it like a rail company CEO? Oh, we just got news. Don't even worry about it.
Starting point is 00:15:34 All the key people are back for the bucks, baby. Oh, so Buck Yerving and Mike Evans? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whew. All right, so we got some good news. All right. Yeah, but I'm with you, Andy. That Seattle is the, oh boy. It's the scariest one.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Oh boy. Jake Ferguson cleared concussion protocol, will return, and return to a full practice, so should return. And then C.D. Lam's still not practicing with the shoulder, which. He said he'll play. I think he will. And I think he will, too, but this is just.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Mediocrity. He'll, if everything goes to plan, he'll get a bunch of targets, half some yards, probably not a touchdown, but the shoulder, I mean, your one, just regular tackle away from CDLAM leaving that game. He's done it twice, yeah. For the people out there where you're really struggling
Starting point is 00:16:23 with the CDLAM decision, I am fully with you. I had a roster that's a win-and-end situation, and last night was like, do I just put Jameson Williams in? Because if I miss that Thursday opportunity, I don't have a great one. What'd you do? I benched, I saw CD on Twitter saying,
Starting point is 00:16:42 I'm gonna play, so. Held out. I'm believing the man. That was the- Believing Twitter saying, I'm gonna play, so. Held out. I'm believing the man. That was the- Believing the lamb. Believing the lamb, yeah, that was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, you believe the lamb, but you hope he's not like Keenan Allen was years ago? Yeah, yeah. All right, let's take a break then we'll jump into the forecast. ["Fantasy Forecast Theme"] It's time for Fantasy Forecast, presented by DraftKings Sportsbook.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yesterday we covered the Jags, Texans, Jets, Dolphins, Falcons, Vikings, Saints, Giants, Panthers, Eagles, Browns, Steelers, Matchups. So we're off to the Pirate Bowl, the Las Vegas Raiders at 2 and 10 taking on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Who's the swashbuckler? 6 and six. The DraftKings Sportsbook Line Tampa minus 6.5 over under is 46 points. It is a battle of interesting proportions. We have two tight ends that Mike you have, Kate Otton is your start of the week. No I don't. Jason you have Kate Otton as your start of the week. Yeah thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Er, yep. start of the week. No I don't. Jason you have Kate Otten as your start of the week. Yeah thank you. Yep. And both teams struggle immensely against the tight end position so you know you're always gonna play Brock Bowers. Kate Otten, Jason you are more confident this week you'll be okay. Would you play Otten or would you play Hawkinson who's been red light green light? I would probably go Hawkinson over on but on I think is about my tight end nine this week the matchup I'm not too scared about the last three weeks I talked about it yesterday's episode the matchup is just really really good for him his involvement and the targets have still been there So I think the targets will continue to be there and because of the matchup being easier, he'll find some success. I think people were surprised to see Rashad White
Starting point is 00:18:47 on the field in overtime last week. He had a big run and it was actually, he played well. But the reason being is Bucky Irving had the huge game. Now Bucky Irving got banged up. Yes. He's back at practice. But if this game gets out of hand, six and a half point favorites,
Starting point is 00:19:03 you could see Rashad White get more work on the ground to salt the game away. I'm not saying you don't play Bucky, I'm just saying, Rashad White has averaged 14.3 points per game since week seven. Bucky and White, right? That's the story here? That is the story.
Starting point is 00:19:17 You can start both of them, obviously. Bucky has usurped the number one role here, so he would be first, but Rashad White has not gone away or been irrelevant by any means. He's double digit opportunities every week. I am. I am, can I just bring up?
Starting point is 00:19:32 No. Sorry, Jay. Okay. No, go ahead. I'm a little concerned for Baker. And I know he's your start of the week. This man's in the blender. I'm your start of this man's in the blender Put him in the dryer press so
Starting point is 00:19:50 I've been I've been you know digging deep here. I've got to make the decision On the league record I got Baker Mayfield. I've got Jamis Winston laser Mayfield but he hasn't been very lazery. Like over the last month he just hasn't actually been that good. Yeah we know. We know we said this. And that's why you're going Winston. I know. Right now Winston is back in the lineup. What if I give you a wild touchdown guarantee in this one? A wild touchdown guarantee, okay. I'm gonna give you. Sincere McCormick. I believe that Jalen McMillan scores in this game.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Well that's Jalen McMillan. Shocking considering that. Is he even on the team? He is on the team. He actually played a bunch of snaps last week. He has done Jack Squat as a professional. I have a feeling about him this week, just throwing it out there. That is, okay. All right, I don't know what the, any time.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Plus 400, plus 400. Okay. He's still sitting on a season high 35 yards. Look, this is what I do. I just say what I'm thinking. That's more of a, I'm really let down by him. Yeah, because he hasn't done anything. With the absence of Chris Godwin,
Starting point is 00:21:04 really thought McMillan would step up. Well, he will, he's gonna score this week. On the other side, Aiden O'Connell dealing with an illness, injuries to Madison, Amir White, Amir Abdullah. Since here McCormick is going to finish the week as the RB what? Well, it really depends on Madison, which Madison was giving limited practice last week and then was shut down.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I mean, I think that he is really low key playable if you're in a desperate situation. So Bowers is in, but what do you do with the Jacoby Myers injury news? And do you try to spot start Trey Tucker or somebody if he's out? I think, yeah, there should be some value in the receiving game against the Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:21:48 They haven't put up a fight against anyone and they don't really have good cornerbacks. So if Jacoby Myers is active, I'm still gonna roll him out. I think he's a flex play despite the injury. But if he's out, yeah, this is the type of roster that you can look at and just pick someone up off the waivers and hope to get double-digit targets it's kind of very Parker Washington from last week with with the Jags. Okay I don't think there's
Starting point is 00:22:14 a lot else to talk about in this one unless you guys have another name. No primarily it's I think the big question is sincere and we just don't know with Abdullah's injury and Madison's injury. That's one where coming up to the weekend, let me ask this, if for some reason Alexander Madison is active in the game, do you start Alexander Madison, put him ahead of sincere? I would.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, if you had to choose between them, yeah. But I would make me wanna not start anybody. Yeah, I mean, that's based off of that he was the starter and the coaching staff, they said a lot of big words about how Zameer White is the guy. And it kept on being Alexander Madison, so I'm saying that of moving that over to McCormick. They were showering him with some praise. Seattle, seven and five, they go to Arizona to take on the Cardinals. This is a big game.
Starting point is 00:23:06 The Cardinals are six and six. The Draft King supports book line here. Arizona three point favorites at home. Over under of just 44. Couple of defenses that have been playing great. Two weeks ago it was only 16 to six in this game. And that was a game where James Connor really fell flat in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:23:23 This game's in Arizona. It's a battle for the division lead. But the defenses are kind of what has been getting the job done over the last six weeks for both teams. Just to put it in perspective, the Cardinals defense, number two against quarterbacks, number three against white outs, number five against tight ends over the last six weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:43 That's how good they've been. Yeah, and unfortunately, I mean, if you look, Seattle games have hit the under in five of their last six games. Arizona games have hit the under in four straight. So it is, you know, this is a matchup that I think a month, two months ago, we looked at and said, oh, I can't wait. This should be great for Metcalf and in JSN and James Connor Marv and now it it really feels like these are this is gonna be more of a
Starting point is 00:24:12 defensive slugfest and I hope that's not just you know carrying over too much from the game we just saw the last game we saw we do need to remember when we saw this matchup a couple weeks ago, it was rainy, it was outdoors, so there is some hope for just a better environment to play and should one or two things break early, you know, that's one of the things about football is like if it starts really slow it can stay slow, but as soon as one team gets going and the other has to kind of be forced to open it up, maybe you can get a back and forth affair. I do expect James Connor to have a significantly better game. I mean, the Cardinals lost that game and they had been on a winning streak on the back of James Connor. I hope they learned a lesson there because they just didn't give
Starting point is 00:24:59 him the ball enough. And the Seahawks are not great at stopping the run. You know, one of the weirdest things is Metcalfe has struggled against Arizona his entire career. He has never hit 60 receiving yards against them. That's wild. That's not true. He's averaged 5.6 fancy points per game and we also know he's hurt. He's never hit 60 yards against the Cardinals?
Starting point is 00:25:23 No, here's his career. 6-0, 23-46, 31-58, 34-37, 10-59. Two touchdowns in that stretch. That's insane. Holy moly. It's wild. Good job research team finding this. That feels impossible.
Starting point is 00:25:38 It really does. Because, I mean, the Cardinals are not like a shutdown team over the last couple years, while DK Metcalf's been playing them many times so I it's not really you know that that's a Fascinating wild stat. I think big picture both defenses are very good. They put pressure on the quarterback right now and That makes it a nerve-racking game. And then if Kenneth Walker misses, yeah We need we need to run out some just. Just if he plays. Let's say Ken Walker plays.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Is he right in into your lineup? Or would you look at someone like Tyrone Tracy against the Saints? I would play Tyrone Tracy. I think that's a good matchup for him. Rashad White against the Raiders. I would play Rashad White. Man.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Are you sad? Yeah, I am. But so, I mean, Kenneth Walker has been contacted before the line of scrimmage on 54.5% of his rush attempts, which is the highest in the NFL. Like I said, the offensive line letting him down despite him being third highest enforced miss tackle rate. I think it's, that was my point earlier in the week about it compounding because when you get tackled behind the line of scrimmage a lot and you're a player like him you try to do more you press you try to do more you're like okay I need to be perfect I need to get outside it's
Starting point is 00:26:57 Saquon with the Giants. Exactly so in this game Jason you said you're confident in Connor. Connor would be over Walker then? Yeah, Connor would be over Walker. I would do that, yeah. OK. I think Connor's a good start. I think Walker's a bad start. So I don't see many situations where I would bench James
Starting point is 00:27:16 Connor, and I would be looking to see if I've got a better player to get in over Walker in this matchup. The Cardinals rush defense has just been really solid, and I wonder how much Charbonne will be involved. It's been frustrating. So even, you know, it's like if Walker's gone, okay, maybe Charbonne is a good play because he's just going to get all the work, the touchdown opportunities. But if Walker plays, these two guys are probably going to just both stink he Kyler Murray in this game at home again favored or Baker Mayfield who you said you had
Starting point is 00:27:54 concerns about I would play Kyler Mike which would you do Kyler against Seattle at home where he is a I'd play play Baker. You'd play Baker, perfect. You guys are very helpful. I was asking for a friend of mine. Well, so who's. Who's starting in a dynasty league trying to get a playoff spot. So who would you start?
Starting point is 00:28:12 I'm playing Baker. Okay. I'm actually already, I've made that decision, but mine is in part because I have Mike Evans. Trey McBride, play him, JSN, play him. Those guys are locks, and we'll see how this game goes. Buffalo's 10 and two, they take on the six and six Los Angeles Rams.
Starting point is 00:28:31 If you are a fan of the Seahawks or Cardinals from the previous matchup, you should be happy that the Rams are playing Buffalo, because this division is tight in the NFC West. The Draft King sportsbook line, Buffalo, just three and a half point road favorites here. The overrunners 49 and a half. That is...
Starting point is 00:28:49 Shocking. I think so. Yeah, I was blown away. I think I would have thought five and a half or six. Yeah, for sure. I mean, the Bills have been so dominant. Obviously they're on the road here, and the Rams are, you know, healthy and needing a victory,
Starting point is 00:29:05 but I would expect the spread to be much, much larger. Defense for Buffalo playing great. I don't know how that changes any of your decisions for the Rams though. Nope. Cooper caught Pukinukua Kyron Williams in log out. Yeah. And then on the other side, Josh Allen,
Starting point is 00:29:21 currently the favorite to win the MVP. I'd play him if I were you. I agree, yeah. I would play James Cook. I don't have him. Well, you see, that was gonna make it harder. Yeah, so then you wouldn't. You can try to put him in your lineup,
Starting point is 00:29:32 but he's not gonna save. That's another bug. Yeah, you can fix that. I'm just gonna grab that guy off your team real quick. That's a bug, I put him on your team. If I found out that your three titles came on the back of... No, our three titles come on the back of magic and unstoppable cosmic force, I would say.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Jared Patterson, Ning Arwe to championships. What do you do with the wide receivers for Buffalo? That's the real question. Cooper, Shakir, Samuel, Coleman, Kincaid. Coleman and Kincaid could be back this week making it a big hodgepodge of low target, somebody scores. The only one. Matt Collins scored last week.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, I mean it could really be any of them. The only wide receiver that I have any confidence in a floor of is Khalil Shakir. I agree. I'd play him. He has the manufactured touches. You look at the targets. Heading back, I mean, it's been over two months since he has not had at least seven targets in a game.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Now, a lot of them are the non-valuable screen game. He makes them valuable. Yeah, he works well in that screen game. So I think you could start Khalil Shakir. His D.K. yardage line's at 54 and 1 half. So I'll take it. One of the things that's really weird about Buffalo is they're kind of the opposite of what Cleveland's been
Starting point is 00:30:56 with Jameis Winston, where the plays per game are through the roof with Jameis. When Buffalo plays football, and it's been true all year, and it's even true over the last three weeks, they have like the third fewest combined plays per game over the last six weeks actually. And they score 30 a game and yet they don't have the same time. You're not getting Jerry Judy games and Elijah Moore games and you know, they want to run the ball. They just, they kind of, you know, Josh Allen scores so many fantasy points just picking up a first down, running the football.
Starting point is 00:31:26 So you play the easy guys. Throwing a pass to himself. Yeah, yeah. So silly. Chicago's four and eight, they take on the five and seven San Francisco 49ers. Let me just take a look over here at the Falcon. How's that feel, Falcon? Where's all the 49er gear?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah, I don't. Why aren't you all dressed up? Oh my gosh, I used to wear it. I had more fun last year, for sure. I'll bet you're, are you wearing 49er shoes to represent like the basement, the floor of the division? That's probably it. That's probably where his Niners gear is.
Starting point is 00:31:57 The Bears are four and eight. 49ers are five and seven. DK Sportsbook line 49ers, mine is three and a half at home. Over and under is 44. San Francisco has a 53 point differential over their last two games. Chicago's lost six straight games, even though they've been really close. They have been really close. It's an A for effort and an L on the standings.
Starting point is 00:32:21 They just can't get over that Hail Mary. I mean that Hail Mary really ruined their season. It's proven it. I mean, we mocked it. And it's like they were poisoned. It is definitely the reason. What in the world? What are your decisions on the Chicago side?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Because Caleb Williams has had two straight 35-point games. Yeah. We've seen D.J. Morbby relevant. We've seen Ken and Alan emerge from the mist. And yet for all the struggles of the 49ers, fantasy wise, their defense is holding people down. Over the last six weeks, they're 10th against quarterback, 9th against wide receivers, 6th against tight end.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They have been a bit of a running back funnel, but the running backs for the Chicago Bears are currently taking some time off. Would you play Caleb Williams or Geno Smith? Because I would go Caleb. I think you stay in the flames with Caleb. These are monstrous games he's had. No interceptions in six consecutive starts. Yeah, you're seeing a lot of the promise.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Also, you have to imagine that they're going to potentially rely on the passing game more in this game. You've got Deandre Swift and Roshan, both not practicing. Roshan is in the concussion protocol, not practicing on a Thursday, so he's almost certainly not gonna go. I, right now, I mean, I think Swift, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:53 will be active, but he might not be, and if he's not, then, I mean, first of all, who's the next man up? And Travis Homer. Yeah, and so you're gonna be throwing the ball. Don't! Yeah, and I don't mind Cole Comet as an emergency start. He had 10 targets two weeks ago, but you're always rolling the dice.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's not a high. Like, Jawan Johnson or Cole Comet, which would you go? Cole Comet. Jawan Johnson's got a pretty bad matchup. I'd stick with Comet. And are you standing in the flames with Keenan? Man, it's tough. Keenan or Jaden Reed? Oh, I'm going to take Keenan. Yeah it's tough. Keenan or Jaden Reed. Oh I'm gonna take
Starting point is 00:34:26 Keenan. Yeah yeah that's me. You know DJ Moore is the only wide receiver here that I want to play that I think is like you can rely on him. Keenan has had two great games in a row but this last week was really just he had two touchdowns. It wasn't a you know it wasn't an outstanding game like it was two weeks ago. You can try to stay in the flames there, but I wouldn't be shocked if all of a sudden they get near the red zone and it's Odunze that gets the touchdown instead of Keenan this week. On the other side, Juan Jennings receiving lines 57 1 1 2.
Starting point is 00:34:59 He's Jason's start of the week. Isaac Gurindo, Jason's start of the week. Ricky Piercewell hasn't caught a pass in three weeks. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that. Zero receptions. I mean, again, the same arguments we made for Juwan Jennings hold true for all of the receivers. Last week was the snowball in Buffalo that they were clearly not prepared for or just doesn't fit Brock Purdy's style. And then Brock Purdy was injured for two weeks ago So I'm not writing Ricky Pierce all off entirely, but it's you know Joanne Jennings says yeah, no you you certainly can't start him, but um you know the Debo has been a storyline right now
Starting point is 00:35:36 He's our consensus number 29 wide receiver on the week And it feels like that is probably too high could be too high It just doesn't feel like it should. He's the widest here of 46 right now on the course of the season. That's like it's outrageous. Keenan Allen or Diva. Oh Mike. You dirty man. Take a shower. I'm yeah you have to play you have to play Keenan up. You have to play the targets and the numbers for Keenan. His targets have been there all year. It's just a matter of having some effectiveness. He's on pace for 134 targets over the last six weeks.
Starting point is 00:36:12 He's on pace for 153. And the nice thing is it coincides with Shane Waldron's exit. And so it's not just a matter of, well, maybe Caleb's getting it together. Well, maybe he is getting it together, but maybe that is also, these are better route designs, better concepts, better play calling of just like- Keenan's an earlier read. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So, yeah, I would go Keenan over Devo. That's wild. Kittle is in your lineup. He had a bus game. It was in the snow. Don't worry about it. All right. Let's take a quick break and hit the final two games and we'll get into the fantasy face-off.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Man we are flying. Well you know when you have five weeks baby. The Chargers are eight and four they take on the 11 and one Kansas City Chiefs. This is a, I think a surprisingly fun game. I hope you're right. It's not the way I'm viewing it. The Chiefs are four point favorites. The over-under is 43. I am eager to always try to pick the Chiefs to be defeated. They've not been playing like they're not running away with games. They get it done in the last two minutes. They win every close game they're in. I just don't think that the Chargers could win this game. This is one that I'd love to see be close. I don't doubt in the hard hog. I
Starting point is 00:37:36 don't like them on the road. I don't like McConkie's injury and I don't know if they can put up enough points. Now that could be just plain wrong. The Chief's defense has not been special, but you're also dealing with, you don't have J.K. Dobbins anymore either, right? Like you don't have efficiency on the ground, and if you don't have McConkie at 100%, or he gets knocked out part of this game,
Starting point is 00:37:58 or he doesn't play, who are you? Josh Palmer's done nothing. Quinton John Johnson can't catch Will Dizzle oh, it is God goose. Yeah, that's all right. He's a starter right for Mike, but it's still a scary one It is a little scary, but it seems like they will need him the running game, which is what? G-row and hard dog want to do is not going to exist in this game Gus Edwards doesn't have it anymore. J.K. Dobbins isn't there. And just in general, if you look at schedule adjusted
Starting point is 00:38:32 fantasy production given up to running backs, Kansas City's number one on the season. Even the last six weeks, they're top five. So this is going to be Herbert. But that's hard. That's gonna be hard to do when you know that Chris Jones and company can come right after you on every play because you don't have the threat of the run.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Or the play action. I mean, that's true in the fact that you're down on personnel. You're saying the Chief's demolishing? Declaring a demolish. OK. I don't see it. That's a. I think Herbert will keep them in it. Lad will play through it.
Starting point is 00:39:09 This is too big, too important a game for the Chargers to fold. Demolish. Not going to happen. Pacheco or Ken Walker? I go Pacheco. With such confidence, I? It's really tough. I mean, they're both gonna be in pretty much 50-50 time splits.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I think Pacheco's gonna start to emerge. That's what I think is gonna happen. I think Kareem Hunt's gonna start to fade into the background. It looked like at the end of the game. Like Kareem Hunt has been just there. Like he has not been a difference-making special player. He's been getting what is blocked for him,
Starting point is 00:39:46 getting touchdowns. So it's worked for fantasy football, but it's not been special on the field. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've definitely made the transition where I've got Pacheco definitively ahead of Hunt going forward. It's just a matter of how much,
Starting point is 00:40:02 how many weeks are they going to wait before they kind of put Pacheco back to his lion's share role? In six weeks as a chief, Hopkins has been a top 30 wide receiver twice. He got us good. Yeah, are you happy he's on your team if you have him? How bad's the rest of your roster?
Starting point is 00:40:24 Because maybe, I would put him in. If you had to play Hopkins or McConkie in this game. I would play McConkie. I know he's dealing with the injury, but the Chiefs, where they have given it up, they're kind of a pass funnel defense against quarterbacks, against wide receivers. They haven't really shut him down.
Starting point is 00:40:40 So McConkie's a good player, is desperately needed in this game. I think he's a good start. he's just risky because of the injury. Kelsey you play Noah Gray? You can but the Chargers... Noah Gray or Colcomet? Colcomet. Noah Gray is still lived on the touchdowns primarily when when he's had kind of his breakout they scheme up some great stuff to get them open. But this isn't a good matchup for tight ends. On the course of the season, the Chargers are literally number one against tight ends.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah, that makes sense. Any other question marks in this game you wanna talk about? No, I just, I had, in the searching, found a funny, just overall statistic of, who has forced more points? Forced more points? Does that mean?
Starting point is 00:41:24 It's called points forced, that's what it's defined as when you're looking at a record. The Steelers or the Chiefs? Basically who's scored more? Who's scored more? I'm still confused. The Steelers or the... You've never heard it called points forced?
Starting point is 00:41:36 I've never heard that in my life. Points four. Or points four, really? It's points four. Oh, I've always been at points forced in my head. It's not forced, it's points four. Okay, points four. You're talking about who's scored more points?
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. Yeah, points four. Points four. Okay, I'm back with points four. Okay. Yeah It's not forced. It's points. Okay, points forced. You're talking about who scored more points? Yeah. Yeah, points forced. Okay, I'm back with points forced. Okay. Yeah, yeah, no, we're good. I'm guessing the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It is, in fact, the Steelers. Who has allowed more points? The Steelers or the Chiefs? The Chiefs? The Chiefs. Wow. Interesting. That is wild.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Jeremy, you're on my side? No, I was saying my mind is blown that you thought it was points forced yeah well points for points forced is really not a huge jump guys but it's a totally different word yeah with significantly different meaning yeah points forced is how many points have I forced you to score on me right that would be more given up yeah yeah it would yeah we we're our minds were blown because it meant something completely different. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Cincinnati's four and eight, Monday night football against the Cowboys who are five and seven. The DK Sportsbook line, Cincinnati minus five and a half. The Over-Unders 49 and a half. I said it last week, I'm gonna reemphasize that you really need Cincinnati to win this ball game. They do have a path to the playoffs. They need help, but they can get to 9
Starting point is 00:42:47 and 8 and they need to beat Dallas and Dallas in their heavy favorites. So they are very much the bad luck team of the year. Cincinnati keeps scoring 30-plus points and losing. Burrow has the most losses, five, with 300 yards and three touchdowns in a single season in the history of the National Football League. If, I mean you feel it on his face. They have played seven games against teams that are 500 or better and they are averaging 30.3 points in those games. They've lost them all.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I feel like James has to be number two in that stat. Yeah, I mean, but the losses are James' fault too. Whereas Burrow's doing everything he can do. Didn't Burrow throw his first interception of the season last week, something like that? I mean, he's the quarterback too right now in the year. In a while, but he's... His passing line's at 277.5.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Five on the season. We did get a limited practice from Jamar Chase. Did you guys see that with the ankle injury yesterday? Give him a little rest. If I were Jamar Chase, I would not be practicing ever. You confident with Chase and Higgins? Yes. You confident with Chase Brown?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yes. And then that Chase Brown? Yes. And then that's probably it for Cincinnati. And on the other side, Rico Dowdell's rushing lines at 64 and a half coming off his best game. It's not been easy to run on Cincinnati the last six weeks. They're number three. They're only giving up 13.3 points a game. Something to keep in mind, I think anytime you play Dowdell,
Starting point is 00:44:23 you're playing him as a floor play. I mean, that's just the way it is. There's not really like, there's not explosive outcomes for Rico Doudle. There's, you could score a touchdown. That's where I like- I said a- Floor.
Starting point is 00:44:38 A floor play. What did you think I said? Four play? Ah! Yeah, I thought you were getting a little hot and bothered for Rico. Deucers, What did you hear? I did hear foreplay
Starting point is 00:44:51 You know, it's just I wasn't confident well, I just snuck it into the chat But I give them a little we know we're gonna make sure we're not going down the road The thing about somebody got jokes. I'm eating The thing about Rico. I've already got jokes, so I'm eating. I like Rico in this matchup because the over-under is at 49 and a half, and it would not surprise me to see this hit the over. Just scoring opportunities. Again, the line 64 and a half.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I think that's a pretty fair rushing line. Great launch. Oh baby, breaking news. Please don't be a brace haul. Please don't be a brace haul. Malik neighbors will not practice again today. He had to get an MRI. The Giants have not yet ruled him out.
Starting point is 00:45:32 The injury occurred in practice yesterday. I should have played Jameson Williams. Is that another name that? Oh gosh. Yeah. So sorry. You were saying that you find that gosh. Yeah. So, sorry. You were saying that you find that to be a reasonable line for Rico.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I think it's a good line for Rico because that's just his rushing total, 64 1 1 2, and he's involved in the passing game. So you're... And give him like 10 to 15 receiving yards. Yeah, you're getting close to 100 yards. And this is the type of matchup where you almost have an expectation
Starting point is 00:46:03 that Rico scores a touchdown here because... Ooh, really? Yeah, you do. I do. This is the type of matchup where you almost have an expectation that Rico scores a touchdown here because... Oh, really? Yeah, you do. I do. There's just a high, over, under in the game. They're at home. There will be a point scored.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He has one rushing touchdown on the year for what it's worth. Yeah, and I think... When did that happen? Last week. Yeah, baby. No, I'm on the opposite side. I think Rico's an under here. I don't think he scores, and I think the Bengals are are gonna put them into a passing situation for the majority of the game
Starting point is 00:46:29 so if you get a if you get a DK disagrees with you Rico's at minus 135 for a rushing test for a touchdown Yeah, that's why it's opinions, you know, you guys you can Rico it up and I will be the Dallas Cowboys have a 22 point implied point total. It is a high over under and he is their running back. So CD Lamb didn't practice on Thursday. We need to monitor that. Ferguson's my start of the week back in action at tight end. Seems like a really soft or safe play. Yeah. I mean he should he should be good. The reason we've loved Schoonmaker is because of the targets that went to the
Starting point is 00:47:07 tight end position as soon as Cooper Rush came came over. Obviously, coming back from a concussion, there should be no physical limitations here for Ferguson and Cincinnati is 30 second on the season against tight ends. Either you guys want to make a Rico touchdown guarantee? Nope, no I don't. Mike, do you? Just heads up?
Starting point is 00:47:34 I mean like no- Is that what you wanna give a heads up that he could score a touchdown? I mean I'm just saying like no, just no odds, just he either gets it or he doesn't. No, I mean- A touchdown guarantee from this show is usually just- It's just conviction.
Starting point is 00:47:44 You just saying that? Oh, I was, in my head I thought you were doing a bet. No, I'm not gonna do No, I mean, it's just conviction. A touchdown guarantee from this show is usually just saying that? Oh, in my head, I thought you were doing a bet. No, I'm not going to do the guarantee. OK, just checking how strongly he felt. He's not McMillan, OK? Yeah, he's no McMillan. It's going to be one of my greatest laps. I hope so. I already bet it.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I know you did. Fantasy Face Off, presented by DraftKings. Oh, well, well, well. The Thanksgiving outcome here. I ended up winning with 164, Jason 150, Mike 128, which means Mike gets the wheel of shame. Yeah Wheel of shame So spin the stupid wheel yeah, I'll Borland is on there. Oh man Right bro, right bro. My name is in your name is in this. Oh, it's it's for my brethren
Starting point is 00:48:51 Wrig Ht bro, and this is the right brothers the oh Nice this is old-timey plane. Yes there you look good. Well this is the dumpster There is dust everywhere. All right, I think I'll cycle This is a good one Goggles on there. It's yeah It feels like a little Snoopy. Yeah, what's the uh wave of the future the red Baron the red bear? Oh, this doesn't fit guys Shocker wait, what what is this strap? It's traps across the back. Maybe I think it goes through this backwards. No
Starting point is 00:49:30 Help me Jason Mike's gonna help him put it on. Well, I get the lineups going here for week 14 It's fine. It's fine. You look like you're a little s&m II but Fine Go fly a plane. All right. Why don't you give us your quarterback there, right brother? It's a little S&M-y, but it's fine. Go fly a plane. All right, why don't you give us your quarterback there, right, brother? Boys, it's time to... I mean, the outfit is perfect because we're flying today.
Starting point is 00:49:56 We are living on the edge. Jameis Winston against the Steelers, $5,400. Wow, that's fun You will either you will either win or lose like if you have Javis in a three-person cash You're not finishing second. I've got Sam Darnold. I have Sam Darnold 6100 Jason and I have Sam Darnold running backs Mike a little little guy known as Saquon Barkley. Ah 9,000. 9,000 against the Carolina Panthers and then the newcomer Isaac
Starting point is 00:50:31 Garando. Chicago Bears at 5,400. I have Saquon Barkley at 9,000 and the newcomer Isaac Garando at 5,400. I have Saquon Barkley at 9,000 and the old man Alvin Kamara at 8,000. Oh, okay. All right. And you've got Justin Jefferson or did you, you must have stacked different. I guess you'll find out. Okay. All right, at wide receiver, Justin Jefferson at 7,800 and here's where we go.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Here's where we live or die, boys. We got Jameis. What if I told you I had Jerry Judy? What if I told you I have Elijah Moore? We are going brown full Jameis. What if I told you I had Jerry Judy? What if I told you I have Elijah Moore? We are going full Jameis. Full Brown Town against Pittsburgh. Wow, I have. Brown Town is where Falcon lives, actually.
Starting point is 00:51:15 These feet. Yeah. All right, sorry, Papa Josh lives there. I'm going with my namesake. It's all about the J's. I'm going Justin Jefferson, Jerry Judy, and Juwan Jennings. So if you don't have a J in the front and the back of your name, you're not on my roster.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I have Justin Jefferson at 7,800. And Alvin Kamara and Saquon? Yeah. How did you do that? Now we find out. I also have Elijah Moore at 4,800. So Mike and I are sharing Elijah Moore and I have the touchdown man with a plan Nick Westbrook at Kene at
Starting point is 00:51:52 4700 Bargain shopping for more in a Kene with Jefferson there. All right my tight end spot goes to You look real cool here, man You gotta get the the way that that the hat does not fit on the giant dome is really something special. It kind of turns it into a conehead. It does. The amount of times that we have tried to go with a certain punishment that we have to change...
Starting point is 00:52:14 This one was actually a pivot this morning. Literally this morning. We pivoted this morning because we... Because it wouldn't fit? Because we had something else. There's no way it would have fit. And there was no way you could have put it on your stupid big head.
Starting point is 00:52:26 The deucers were asking me, they're like, will this fit on my, there's no way that will fit on my, and Josh tried it, and it was a little snug on Josh. It was like, no way. All right, I'm running out 12 personnel. I've got Trey McBride at 6,100, and then I had to find a way to save some cash, so coming in at 2,900.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Conk, conk, baby. Wow. Wow. OK. I'm also running. That's not honk, honk. That's conk, conk. And what's your defense?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Oh, the Saints against the Giants at 2,900. I am running 12 personnels as well. Kade Auten, my start of the week at 4,400, and Grant Calcutera, the backup tight end for the Eagles and I also have the Saints. How much are the Saints, D? Saints are 2,900. And who are they playing?
Starting point is 00:53:13 They are playing the Giants. I have Colt Comet at 3,700 at tight end. Unsurprisingly, I have Jalen McMillan in my flex at 3,500. In my defense is the Chicago Bears, 2,400, against San Francisco. So your Jalen McMillan touchdown guarantee, did that appear to you when you realized you only had the 3,500 left?
Starting point is 00:53:39 All of a sudden it was, oh, well of course he's gonna score. I know when players are due, and that's, you know, I get an email. Ah. And he's due. He's due to break through.
Starting point is 00:53:51 When you see it happen. He's due for doo-doo. When you see it happen, just think of me. OK. That's all I'm asking you to do. It's really impressive, because you have been dunking on him this whole rookie season. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:00 You've talked very poorly about him. And now the fact that you're talking. And now that you can only afford him. No, no, no. Look, I have not talked about Jalen McMillan as though, he has not been a good fantasy player or fantasy start because he's never done it. That's been my point about Jalen McMillan.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Doesn't mean he'll never do it. It just means that we kept talking about him like he was an emerging rookie who never emerged. I need the, you have to emerge first. And you're going to say that that starts. I'm saying he scores a touchdown this week because I liked the snap count and he started getting a little involved and it's time to catch a touchdown. That's all I'm saying. We're fogging up over here boys. Starting to get hard to see. All right. That was fantasy forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app right now.
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