Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 14 Studs & Duds + Fantasy Burns, Playoff Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/9

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Week 14 fantasy football recap on today’s podcast! Andy, Mike, and Jason react to the weekend action with playoff hopes on the line! Which studs could be league winners and which duds are panic wort...hy? Plus, injury news, Ready To Roll, and Monday Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for December 9th, 2024 (00:00) - Intro (06:00) - Monday Punday (08:05) - Ready to Roll (16:05) - NFL News  (22:50) - Fantasy Football Studs (23:00) - QB Studs (31:55) - RB Studs (40:50) - TE Studs (45:35) - Fantasy Football Duds (45:40) - QB Duds (48:45) - RB Duds (50:50) - WR Duds (58:45) - TE Duds Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Studio is brought to you by Amazon Prime Ready to Roll presented by Nissan. Visit https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/crossovers-suvs/pathfinder/rock-creek-edition.html News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:38 Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in! Monday December 9th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, Mike Wright, Jason Maury, Andy Holloway. Excited to have you with us, a reaction to the weekend, the studs, the duds, the news, the puns, and then I'm out. I'm actually taking off. Oh, all right. I picked up the bye week in League of Records, so I'm actually gonna take this week off, guys, if you don't mind. Congratulations. We don't mind. I got nothing to worry about. Do you mind, Mike?'m actually gonna take this week off, guys, if you don't mind.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I got nothing to worry about. Do you mind, Mike? No, that's fine. Yeah, I'm cool with it. We should make a start-sit tool for bye week teams, and it just, no matter what players you put in, it just says it doesn't matter. Al, are you in?
Starting point is 00:02:37 You like this frame of thought? I hate that you have the bye. Hey, you can still get the other bye, Al, if If I just got a root for injury, which I try not to do. Yeah. But if Chase Brown wants to catch a cold before the game, okay. Okay. That's not yes, a short term short term thing. The cold right? Take some cold medicine. Take the week off. That's what you need for the bye. Yes, sir. Okay. I don't think he's gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Hey, I made the playoffs too, baby. Oh my, hey, congratulations. Yeah, to those of us who backed in, baby. Oh, and two on the week, don't matter. Beep, beep, beep. I think that the Briggs truck is coming to the playoff. You got your socks blown off by Josh Allen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You had no chance in heck, and you're still in. And I'm in, baby. Oh boy, chance in heck. And you're still in. And I'm in, baby. Oh, boy. And you've got such a powerhouse team. You're just ready to run the table. I know people don't want to play me, because I will destroy your team with voodoo and black magic.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The way the Chiefs do. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. They have done this to themselves. There is no one left that likes the Chiefs. Like I am, I like dynasties.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I root for the big, you know, when it was the Patriots. Sorry, I liked it, I enjoyed it. I was like, I wanna see them win another championship and like, be like, I was part of that, you know, era of football. When you got to see it. Dude, part of it. Yes, I was part of it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Well, I just mean like, that was the. I was the guy that drafted Pacheco. But the Chiefs, the football that they're playing. It's so annoying. They can't keep doing this, man. This was not a distra, what did I call it a demolish it? That was not a demolishing of our souls and eyeballs It's like it's funny because you can go to Twitter and everyone points out every holding call
Starting point is 00:04:36 It isn't called by the Chiefs and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah But when you when you hit a field goal off the upright, oh blah blah blah. But when you hit a field goal off the upright, it's not, you can't script it. You can't pre-plan. It just happens to go off the upright and through. Of course it goes through. Yeah, you said, so we weren't together when we were watching this, and I think you were ahead of us at the time, and I was with Owl. We knew that they were about to kick a field goal to win the game, a little chip shot. And you said, oh my gosh, in Slack.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And I was like, did it go against them? Final, like they're gonna miss the field? This is crazy. And then they doinked it in. Unbelievable. You know what bothers me too? The level of celebration after all of these crappy wins. They're always so... They won!
Starting point is 00:05:28 I know they won, Mike, but they just like... Bro, you've been in sports, you've been in competition at the... when the clock is at zero and you have won, that's when you're like, a win is a win and I will celebrate it like I won. I don't blame them on that at all, but my point and the point of all people outside of Kansas City or who aren't Chiefs fans, congratulations to Chiefs fans. This is amazing for you guys. I'm happy for you. Just the rest of the world, you need to know the rest of the world would rather watch the
Starting point is 00:05:57 Panthers right now. The Panthers are playing better looking football than the Chiefs and you just keep winning. Now Mike and I are living the Bryce Young experience every week it's a great time. The Kansas City Chiefs have pulled like this is the ultimate heel turn. Yes. Because everyone loves the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes is throwing for 5,000 and 50 bajillion touchdowns. No lookers behind the back. Love it. They can win every single game. Give me that level of entertainment and now we're Back to the doldrums like this. This is
Starting point is 00:06:30 Like they hogan joined mwo. Yes, it is and now we all just we all hate the Chiefs I get I but the problem your team is great the problem. I hate them our hatred is fueling I know it's the chip on their shoulders they need to keep winning these games it's the same thing as the Patriots like when the Patriots would just barely or the Spurs barely beat teams yeah we sound fundamentals you get out of here it's far more than the 44 42 games like the Buffalo Rams game dirty dirty, you 12-1 sons of guns. All right. I guess we'll react with your puns right now.
Starting point is 00:07:12 What a weekend it was. I've got all your Monday pun day submissions from the Instagram from X. And away we go. And I got to start it off. Yeah, you'll enjoy this one. Jalen McMillions, baby Shazam Donald wait he made it John who swish yeah, baby overtime. Oh my gosh Alan Oh my gosh Alan oh the garden of the elan. Oh nice. Okay, Isaac
Starting point is 00:07:42 Scorendo the char bones bones on you and Devon H&O juan winnings and I like this bazooka Nakua Oh, yeah, that's good They weren't all good. You got yucky Irving Travis smell see and anus Winston Travis Smilcey and anus winston Nick West broke a key. Yeah, it finally happened. Yeah, of course. Oh, AJ brown stains and jayden peed How about pee-poo Samuel? Oh?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Won't levis that's good Mike mevans and let's end it with mr. Moore here is just where he's taking us all. Breeze Hell. The... Even Breeze Hell couldn't stop you from making the playoffs. Yeah, because I could have benched my whole team. Jaden Reed being in this list surrounded by just people being annihilated like Anus Winston. And he's just Jaden Pete, and he's out here. He gave everyone zero points.
Starting point is 00:08:46 That's ridiculous. The best pun I saw on Jayden Reed was, Jayden Reed sucks. That's pretty clever, because it's like they're using his name, and it sounds just like Jayden Reed. Jayden Reed was in, so Mike and I's Champ Champ Champ team, our Dino Junior roster, we're playing for the bye week. And we had-
Starting point is 00:09:09 Did you get it? Well, we're still good. We need 27 points from Joe Burrow. Oh, that's doable. It's doable, he's done it probably four or five times this year. It would have been done-able if we had not played Jayden Reed.
Starting point is 00:09:20 We had Jayden Reed in and Devontae Adams on the bench. Ah, that was a bad call by you. Agreed. Yeah. Agreed. All right, we're Jayden Reed in and Devonte Adams on La Bench. That was a bad call by you. Agreed. Agreed. All right, we're ready to roll. Welcome to Ready to Roll, presented by Nissan. Well one of the things we said on this show for the entirety of the 10 years we've been doing this is that you got to stay water in fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:09:55 We've learned that conclusions can kill, right? If you make a determination too soon, if you're unwilling to change an opinion if you are if you're suffering from fantasy burns from a certain player and that carries on to you know you making a poor decision based on the fact that you were hurt in the past all of these things can hurt you in fantasy Jason you've talked about wide receivers and how outside of the tippy tippy top of the wide receiver position you can go look at our consistency charts they're all fairly inconsistent. Yeah like a good grade for these wide receivers is to have a good game every other game like
Starting point is 00:10:34 over a certain barometer that's actually good it doesn't feel good in the moment but it actually is pretty consistent for wide receiver. So I wanted to look at a couple of things here in our ready to roll segment. First I wanted to take a look at the first impressions we got just as a little bit of a reflection and a lesson learned because the first three weeks of the fantasy football season are so impactful on our psyches that because you have all the buildup we all drafted we built our rankings we spent two three three, four, five months talking about players, we have expectations,
Starting point is 00:11:08 and then the first three weeks. Well, after the first three weeks, Andy, you know now, now you know what's gonna happen. It's all been locked in stone. It's all obvious. Except it's not. In fact, this stat is wild. Half of the top 10 fantasy wide receivers
Starting point is 00:11:24 on the year, right now. Right now. Half of them were outside the top 30 after three weeks. Outside the top 30 after three weeks. Here are some of the names as we look back at the beginning. Terry McLaurin, wide receiver 39 through three weeks. Jordan Addison, the wide receiver 104. JSN, Garrett Wilson, and Brian Thomas all outside the top 30. wide receiver 39 through three weeks Jordan Addison the wide receiver 104 JSN
Starting point is 00:11:45 Garrett Wilson and Brian Thomas all outside the top 30 Jerry Judy outside the top 40 Cortland Sutton outside the top 50 lad McConkey outside the top 50 and Since then the McLaurin is the wide receiver for on the year. You guys realized that oh, I realize that I've got them in one league and it is, I just can't believe it keeps happening every week. And Addison, wide receiver 16. Jaysen is now the wide receiver five on the year.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Garrett Wilson, the wide receiver seven. Brian Thomas in the top 10. Judy in the top 10. Yeah, I mean, he's been, he is a dominant league winning type of fantasy wide receiver with Jameis. So if you just put yourself in the boat of like, if you reacted to those first three weeks, it probably costs you starting those guys
Starting point is 00:12:33 another three weeks before you add any confidence. Things change very quickly. You look at common denominators in that situation, Terry McLaurin with Jaden Daniels, it transformed his fantasy outlook. Cortland Sutton with Bo Nicks, quarterback situation, transformed everything. Jerry Judy, now that he got Jameis Winston, it's transformed his whole season. So what are the implications of that? One, it's a lesson learned for the future, right? Don't let those
Starting point is 00:12:58 first three weeks become... and I'm preaching to myself here, it's almost impossible, but a three-week stretch in the middle of the season doesn't feel the same as the first three weeks. No, it doesn't. It doesn't in the sense that we already have established what we think of these players, so it's like, okay, they're having a down week, but they've been good already this season. When it's at the beginning, it's 100% of the year, so it's 100% of everything you've seen. So it's much more difficult. But I think it is worth bringing up. If you're in a slump right now, if a player has had two bad weeks in a row, that doesn't mean, oh, it's bad from here on out. You can't view it that way.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Everyone was dropping Mark Andrews after the back-to-back Gooses. And since that time, I'm pretty sure he's like a top three tight end. So I did want to point out four names based on the idea that conclusions can kill. We just talked about one in Monday Punday. And I'm not going to pretend to know the future for this player, but I will tell you that the burns of this past week, they number one they are medical Jaden Reed is a very talented player that has had stretches of games where he's been a fantasy darling this year he just goose you on Thursday his fantasy playoffs are the fourth easiest schedule for wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Another player that has made no impact on you for the course of the year that might make a big difference in the playoffs, Adam Thielen, who we just said, the Garden of Thielen. Jason looked up waiting for the point. I was waiting. I was waiting. But to be fair, it's like 9 a.m. our time, so I assume Adam Thielen was at his nap. Yes. Gets up around four or five, takes a nine hour nap. He's already had lunch.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I mean, Adam Thielen continues to get it done and looks great and- And Bryce Young looks- Thank you. Healed a little. There will be start-set decisions this week in particular where you're gonna be facing the, is it the player that's done well lately, Adam Thieland, emerging with a great matchup in two-thirds of the
Starting point is 00:15:12 fantasy playoffs. Dallas, Arizona and Tampa Bay. Or putting your confidence in somebody whose situation is a little bit murkier. You know one name worth bringing up where it's like, hey, be careful. George Pickens. He just missed week 14 with an injury, precautionary. His first week in the fantasy playoffs is going to be against Philadelphia in Philadelphia. No problem for Adam Thielen. No, it wasn't. And then C.D. Lamb, he's averaging 9.2 fancy points per game with Cooper Rush you talk about one of those situations Bo Nicks, Jayden Daniels,
Starting point is 00:15:48 helped McClorn and Sutton Cooper Rush with now CD Lamb the big name the big pedigree the big history under 10 points a game with Cooper Rush dealing with an injury so if you go into your fantasy playoffs with the conclusion about CD Lamb and what he should be and he gets to face two out of three really tough matchups. Your championship week, CD Lam with Cooper Rush in Philadelphia against Philadelphia. How do you feel about that? At this very moment, not good. It might take some intestinal fortitude to win your fantasy championship as well. Is the message here.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I wanted to lay out some of what's happened, but mostly just tell you it's the very difficult calls that can win and turn the table in a fantasy championship. Now Jason, you've got a look on your face. Are you just thinking about it? I'm just thinking about it. I'm thinking about how I'm going to try to scrap and claw my way through these playoffs with a garbage roster. It can be done. Well, I mean, look, there have to be people out there that played CD Land this week instead of Jordan Addison
Starting point is 00:16:56 in that matchup. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so there's gonna be a lot of those type of decisions coming down the stretch, and I wanted to highlight some of the fact that there's these stretches of games that really change the way you think about a player but but stay water be willing to let the burns go all right that was ready to roll thanks again to our sponsor Nissan adventure calls in the first ever Nissan Rogue Rock Creek visit Nissan USA calm to learn more
Starting point is 00:17:22 intelligent all-wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Well, Derek Carr suffered a fracture in his left hand that is the shop. That is the fear Okay, the car in is the shop. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I'm with you. Yeah He also might be in concussion protocol. It was a hand and concussion combination He the coach his helmet super hard with his left hand
Starting point is 00:18:06 If you didn't see the play, it's wild the coach said He might be how do they not how that seems like something you should know I feel like this happened like with with Harbaugh a couple years ago. We're like What do you mean? Are they or are they not? This is that's a strange thing. So Derek Carr, I mean, first reactions to that injury and what it means for, you know, Camara and other options in the offense.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It will be very bad for the Saints. I mean, we saw this already. Week six, seven, eight, when they did not have Carr there, it was not great for the Saints. Now, six, seven, and eight, you look at, they weren't like, Camaro's so involved, but they were three of his worst games. Not like he was just outright bust.
Starting point is 00:18:58 He scored 14 points, five points, 15 points, he was okay. But if you look at all of his massive games, they've been with Derek Carr. So you hope Carr can clear concussion protocol if he's in it. And I don't know, man, if you've got a fractured left hand, obviously it's not your throwing hand, but you still have to catch snaps.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So we'll monitor that. We did get news this morning, Isaac Grindle left Sunday's game against the Bears with a foot injury. Kyle Shanahan said X-rays were inconclusive. We'll have more imaging on Monday. Concern is the foot sprain. Gurindo himself said the exit was precautionary
Starting point is 00:19:37 and quote, I feel great. Yeah, well, we'll see. Feels great about his performance. I mean, if he's out, then we've gone CMC Mitchell, Mason, Garinda. Keyshaw on board, baby. Patrick Taylor.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Both of those guys. No, but it'll be Garinda. Wild. Bucky Irving left early. This won't hurt, literally. Bucky Irving barely played. Final touch was the beginning of the second quarter. Yeah, precautionary is what they're saying because he got banged up last week.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They were winning. You know, that's a scary one because he's been playing so well. Jonathan Brooks. Oh, man. Left with acontact right knee injury. This is the same knee that Brooks had surgery on for a tornacea. Yeah, I mean, we'll wait to see what happens, but when it's non-contact and then he was down
Starting point is 00:20:34 and he tried to get up, tried to leave the field, had to get back down, man, for a player that took this long to come back, you hoped that this was like the process of allowing the body to just heal completely fully. We don't have any other information, but it makes me question if there was some setbacks along the way of the recovery,
Starting point is 00:21:00 and that's why it took so long. The fact that he's back out on the field, and now the same knee Says whoopsie doozles. This could be this could be like major major issue Will Dizzley left injured shoulder injury sad, Montana. Yeah, Justin Herbert was playing through injury Edno Connell Looks like a season-ending injury for Raiders quarterback Aidan O'Connell. As the team circles the drain and is nearing the number one pick, I believe they're at number two. And that will be brutal for Jacoby and Brock. Yes, that is another one of the... I wanted to
Starting point is 00:21:41 bring up Brock Bowers in that Raider role segment. That was the first name that came to mind of, okay, maybe now that the quarterback change happens, that's really, but it's not gonna impact fantasy because I can't, no one's going to bench Brock Bowers. No, no. But your expectations for Brock Bowers need to be extremely measured. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:22:02 You're going to have, I mean, when you go to the third string quarterback on A bad team. I mean it doesn't matter how good you are look at you know Malik neighbors is great But you can't always get it done, and I don't know that Brock Bowers is going to be able to you know I mean doesn't ridder Kyle Pitts and Drake, and the players he had in the past, I mean, too bad they don't have Johnny Smith, you know? Yeah, a lot of people in the playoffs have Brock Bowers, and he's helped get you there,
Starting point is 00:22:34 and he might help you exit. Correction to what I said, the Las Vegas Raiders are now their number one in the draft order. Oh! The Giants are number two. Strength of schedule one. Congratulations. Oh man, Brock in dynasty?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Get him the number one pick at quarterback? Yeah, yeah. DeMarcus Robinson left with an injury for the Rams. Dallas got it, was placed on IR. And I think that's all the news I got. That's all we got for now. I'm sure we could find more if you want. Let's hope for a breaking news button.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm checking to see if Jalen McMillan scored another touchdown. No, just the two. All right, that was today's News and Odes, presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. We will take a break and come back with the studs. The Jalen McMillan thing on Sunday was one of the most hilarious possible starts to a
Starting point is 00:23:39 Sunday ever. It was a good time. Because he did it so quick. There was no sweat. Yeah, it was a great start to the Sunday morning games we had Kendra Miller in the end zone and Jalen McMillan in like the first five minutes of action it was a chef's kiss I mean those are the moments we live for right third fourth fifth string Tampa
Starting point is 00:23:58 Bay touchdown guarantee I just I can't wait for that next Troy Franklin touchdown this year that's the. That's where it matters. This week's fantasy stud muffins. All those names we mentioned reminded me of studley performances so let's jump in here. You know normally on a week like this we're talking Sam Darnold because what a performance from Sam Darnold. Five touchdowns. Genuinely what a pro, like it wasn't luck.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It wasn't a screen pass that he looked outstand every single throw. You know, we weren't together. I was, I was with owl watching the games, and I was just like, the whole, I'm like, look, he's on fire right now. Moving in the pocket, Sam Darnold 22. Hitting everybody in stride, down the field, everywhere. He was so good. He had a couple mind melds with Addison
Starting point is 00:24:57 where it was like, that was a short ball that Addison read properly. And to be fair, Atlanta's DB slipped on a few banana peels. But 22 for 28, 347 and five, that would normally have been your storyline, move great in the pocket. It's also a storyline, they've negotiated nothing with Sam Darnold about the future
Starting point is 00:25:16 and is likely at this point he's priced out of their. Yeah, he's playing for a good contract. He's gonna play for somebody else and be their starter next year. That's what's gonna happen with Sam Darnold. I wouldn't negotiate if I were Sam. You wouldn't negotiate? No.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I would be like, no, we're going to finish out the season. Don't worry about it. I'd gamble. However, there was this guy. Excellent. Josh Allen, three rushing touchdowns, three passing touchdowns, the first player in history with a three plus three in a loss. 42-44 in a, it was an amazing game.
Starting point is 00:25:55 No interceptions. I find the coaching of McDermott to be atrocious at the end of that game. It was the worst call I've seen since Eberfluss. I don't know if you saw the end of that game, Jason, but their decision to, with a minute on the clock, attempt a quarterback sneak with three timeouts that they already had, they failed it. It forced them to use one of their timeouts. And by using one
Starting point is 00:26:25 timeout that eliminated their ability to call three timeouts and kick the ball deep. It was insane to me, just absolutely insane. But Josh Allen, fantasy darling, absolutely incredible and you didn't win if you played against him. Correct. After last week Jason and I had started the show, talking about the snow game of, hey, snow people, which one do you prefer? Oh, well. Which one do you prefer, snow people?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Snow people. I like 150 total yards. Yeah, he scored a bunch of touchdowns. He threw himself a touchdown last week. I get it, it's weird. Which one do you prefer? That I get it. And I prefer this, but I prefer this the way that every meal that I eat isn't a
Starting point is 00:27:13 four course meal, right? If every meal was a four course meal, they're not, none of them are four course meals, right? These are special games because they're amazing. The snow game, that's its own special thing. None of them should be all the time and I want more of these. I'm just saying that the variability is what makes it fun. Otherwise it's arena football. Which is it's pretty good game. It's a pretty fun game. You ever been to an arena ball?
Starting point is 00:27:38 It's great. I don't think the ratings say what the NFL's ratings say is all I'm saying. So you got mix it up, Mike. This was awesome. 44-42, it was a great game. It was a great fantasy game. Pukka Nakua, Cooper Cup, Stafford got it done, Allen got it done. There were lots of beneficiaries. But Josh Allen's gonna win the MVP.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's what's gonna happen. And look, they're gonna go play Detroit next week the MVP. That's what's gonna happen. And look, they're gonna go play Detroit next week in Detroit. That's a fun game. Yeah. I mean, if they win that game, if the Bills win that game, Josh Allen will be minus 10,000 to get MVP. I mean, that will give them a record competing with the number one in the league and Josh Allen's been the best player. Him, Lamar, they've basically been the best. Yeah, and when you watch Kyler Murray play quarterback and then you watch Josh Allen play quarterback
Starting point is 00:28:35 as a Cardinal fan, you realize that you are- Don't, don't, you don't need to say that. That you are stuck at an eight and nine peak for the rest of Kyler Murray's career's career. Yeah. Jalen Hurts. OK, another rushing touchdown. This game was weird. Yeah, 100 yards. He passed for 100 yards.
Starting point is 00:28:56 He did not play well. I watched the all 22. His wide receivers were open all over the place down the field. AJ Brown is furious right now. Like if you saw his postgame conference, it was, he is, he is so unhappy. Is he cryptic tweeting? No, he's just, his face is not cryptic and it says, I hate my life. Hey, I mean, he is cardio out there with 15 yards of separation and Jaylen
Starting point is 00:29:20 Hernds won't throw the ball down the field. I mean, look at the evidence here. Carolina could have won this game easily. This is a mirage if you think it was a good game for Philadelphia. This was not a good game for Philadelphia. This was a bad game for Philadelphia that they figured out how to win
Starting point is 00:29:33 because Carolina's a bad team. Yeah, but Carolina's been figuring some things out as of late, and just because the Eagles had a bad game, I still think they're a very good team. They, they are a good team, but he's thrown, here's his passing yardage over the last three weeks. 179, 118, 108. If you go into your fantasy playoffs. You're fine with that.
Starting point is 00:29:55 As long as you use them rushing questions. You're fine with that, is that what you're saying? Yeah, I mean, his rushing. Not if you have Brown. No, no, no. Not if you have Smith, that's my point. No, I'm just talking about hurts. Yes, the receiving weapons are obviously,
Starting point is 00:30:07 you need more passing yardage. Saquon is a big part of the problem. His rushing ability and his rushing yardage has taken over the Eagles with their defense and their running game. You don't need to throw the ball a lot, and so that can be frustrating for the weapons. Yeah, if you're a Devontae Smith manager,
Starting point is 00:30:24 you're really scared. You're not expecting massive games. Obviously, you got the touchdown this week. But the rushing touchdowns are still there for Hertz, so Hertz you're fine with. The last four years, 10 touchdowns, just rushing. 13 touchdowns, 15 touchdowns, and 13 this year with weeks to go. I mean, Pittsburgh though, next week to start your playoffs for Jalen Hurts. He did finish at five this week the previous three weeks outside the top 12 three consecutive weeks. I do think things are going a little bit like you said Saquon's a piece of it. Competence in the passing game is not there. So if you're AJ Brown and Devontae Smith you're a little nervous.
Starting point is 00:31:04 If you're managing those players. Tua deserves a ton of credit for what he is doing right now in fantasy and on the field for his team. In fantasy, Tua is the quarterback two, five, and three over the last three weeks. He's the quarterback one over the last month. So, and he's getting it done each and every week. You saw Waddle and Hill get involved. You saw John New Smith in overtime. He's the quarterback one over the last month. So, you know, and he's getting it done each and every week.
Starting point is 00:31:25 You saw Waddle and Hill get involved. You saw John New Smith in overtime. You throw the ball to Achan all the time. He's averaging, you know, the last month. Is that what you said, Jay? He's the quarterback one. He's averaging, as opposed to the, what, 108 passing yards of Mr. Jalen Hurts,
Starting point is 00:31:43 325 a game for Tuitonga-Vaioloa. They play Houston, then San Francisco, then Cleveland. I'm not scared of any of those matchups. No, those are three good defenses, but absolutely not scary. I wouldn't bench them. And the nice thing is, those are three offenses that should be able to make it into
Starting point is 00:32:04 really valuable games. Yes. I think Tua could be a league winner. Could be. I just wanna see, the thing is with the Dolphins in general, they do a good job beating up on bad teams. And so I'm really curious coming up here. Houston, they're not a
Starting point is 00:32:25 juggernaut, but they're a good team. San Francisco, if they're still playing for the playoffs, they obviously played great this last week. I want to see this, because obviously against the Jets, you kind of saw this coming. I mean, 365 and two on the road. The Packers? Yeah. Yeah, that's a good win. That was great. That's one game.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, I mean good game. He's set up, by the way, to break Debrey's all-time record for completion percentage. He's at 74% on the year. Well, when 80% of your passes are to HN and John New Smith, that'll help. Yeah, I mean, is his yards per attempt down? because I don't think it is. From like previous years. It's down to seven point. He was in the eights. Instead of eight okay. Running backs this week the
Starting point is 00:33:16 top five Zach Charbonneau. Oh my gosh. Isaac Orindo, Rashad White, Josh Jacobs, Kyron Williams. Charbonne. Yeah. Where has this been since college? I'm just curious because Mike and I loved you coming out of college. You've been slow and plodding. He's only caused me pain, but whoo-ha! No Ken Walker, who could be back next week might not Charbonneau goes
Starting point is 00:33:47 22 for 134 big touchdown run caught seven passes got 48% of the team's rushing attempts and targets and you know the way this offensive line works you know Charbonneau was very decisive I say that. He got the ball and he ran forward. You know, it wasn't a lot of dancing, very versatile, very powerful, did some things that like probably are not in the area where Ken Walker's strengths are. Yeah, that's fine. Tackle breaking. It was impressive. They crushed Arizona. I can't tell you how much I hate the Cardinals. I hate them so much. Isaac Gurindo, 15 for 78 and two. Jason started the week, two for 50 through the air.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Hopefully that helped a lot of you to have the pat on the butt. The endorsement of Gurindo coming right into that situation and starting for your fantasy team. Hopefully his foot's okay. If it's not, it will be par for the course for the 49ers and for your fantasy teams because a running back that you can count on in San Francisco is an illusion, a ghost, and a mist. It's just you get them for a time and then they're gone.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah, but when they're there, if they're there, you plug them in your starting lineup. Josh Jacobs, three more touchdowns against Detroit. Okay, so the last six games, Josh Jacobs has played. He's on pace for 28 rushing touchdowns. That's, I mean, he is, when they get around the goal line, which is so funny because- We brought him up as a regression, a positive regression candidate because he didn't score on the ground for the first four weeks. But I do feel like he is kind of murdering the passing game. Like I would like it to stop, personally.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I mean, it's a great game. He looks outstanding. It's like Saquon in the Philly situation. It's just like, you know, Jayden Reed is like, can I play two? And Josh Jake was like, nah, I got this. Rashad White did it again. 17 for 90 and one on the ground.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Passing touchdown. I mean, Rashad White, we saw this last year. If he's the dude, if he's, you know, he was out there all of the snaps last year, just a complete workhorse back and great for fantasy. I mean, you could have this again this next week against the Chargers Sean Tucker did not get a lot of work. He was three for
Starting point is 00:36:09 47 in his three touches Kyron two more rushing touchdowns James Connor against Seattle 18 for 90 also scored Four for 32 and one plays New England at home next week for your fantasy playoffs then Carolina then the Rams all right James Connor three more games that's all we need from you James you can get hurt for the last week because we won't play fantasy then yeah I like that let's take week 18 off with like a pinky injury Bijon Robinson continues to get it done Shuba Hubbard was last man standing and is a good running back. So 26 for 92 and one against a brutal rushing defense.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah, the upcoming weeks, Dallas, Arizona, and Tampa Bay for Chuba who's completely alone now. I mean, Miles Sanders is gone, Brooks is gone, and I forget the- Black Sheep. Black Sheep, yeah. Yeah, he's gone, so. The pirate.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah. Have you any wool? Oh, you and- Yeah, I went a different way. Yeah. I like both. Which one? No, no's gone. So the pirate. Yeah, have you any wool? Oh, yeah, I went a different way. Yeah No bags full you gotta pay gotta pick I'm gonna go with the wool cuz I didn't see it coming It was a little bit more difficult. Sorry Mike But it was just like actually the Pirates cool, too. Yeah, no, they were both good. That's fine. We'll go with the sheep Yeah, all right Have you any wool? No, they were both good. They were both good. That's fine. We'll go with the sheep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:25 All right. Have you any wool? Anyways, he's injured too. So, Tuba's completely alone. At least this week against Dallas, this coming week. I mean, that is, I hope you have him in playoffs. Top five wide outs this week. Pooka Nakua, 35.8 points.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Jordan Addison, 35.3. Justin Jefferson, Juwan Jennings, and Tyreek Hill. Welcome back to the party. Hey, I remember you. Right. 10 for 115 and one for Tyreek. First 100 yard game since week, one. Holy moly.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You look like you were about to hold the football. The way that you're posing is like a two handed, don't fumble. Is practicing. No, I had an itch posing is like a two-handed don't fumble is practicing Look like a Look a little bit of a huh. You're not fumbling. Um, Devante Adams 9 for 109 and a touchdown Jalen McMillan, you know who should have had touchdown Garrett Wilson. Oh my gosh, Mike can't handle it. Dude, Rogers. Bro. Did you see the 76 yard touchdown that was an easy one but he ran him out of bounds?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Yeah. I mean, I don't know where the ball came down. When I watched it live, I kind of had a little blame on Garrett Wilson as well. There's a little blame on Wilson there for sure. I brought it up to Mike, he had, he would not accept that. No, because if you watch the play in totality, the margin for touchdown was probably 10 yards
Starting point is 00:38:49 wide. Yeah. And he missed it. I will definitely say that any throw, if you put that ball just a little bit more inbounds, it is a guaranteed touchdown. But I still felt like watching it, I mean, he didn't make that big an effort to stay in bounds He's like I caught the ball. I'm gonna get out It's like there's a good a big field ahead of you guys. He didn't even try that was my issue
Starting point is 00:39:11 He did not falling out the ball took him out of bounds Anyways Adams had a good game 9 for 109 and Garrett did a good game Jalen McMillan 4 for 59 and 2 the question here is not you know am I some sort of genius but really do you care about this? No I don't care much it's nice to see the rookie involved and he's still a matchup play you know like for instance this next week they're gonna go on the road and play against Chargers. We've talked play against the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:39:45 We've talked about how the Chargers games have hit the under a lot, and even though they've opened things up with Herbert a little bit more, they've got a really good defense. I don't expect that one to be a barn burner. I'm not gonna be looking to start Jalen McMillan just on the back of two touchdowns, caught four balls. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I mean, it's the same as Rome. Rome with doons eight. Which is the same as Tim Patrick. Yep, four, and Patrick, I I would put at the bottom of it, the bottom of the list of players. I'm more talking about like two touchdown outlier performances. But it's like if you had to order those three of which ones do I care about, I'd put a Doonze at the top.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But it was still just four catches for Rome. Darn Al Mooney. Oh, there you go. Your start of the week. Six for 142. Yeah, that was him. Nice to see Jerry Judy getting it done as well. Has an amazing schedule down the stretch. Last year it was Amari Cooper,
Starting point is 00:40:34 this year it's gonna be Jerry Judy with a backup quarterback in Cleveland winning people championships. As long as Jameis Winston is behind center. Now, it was not good for Jameis. No. He will be brought up momentarily. I was- Just 21 fantasy points. I thought he for James. No, he will be brought up momentarily I was just 21 fantasy. I thought he had no he was he was okay for fantasy He didn't have like a bust game, but he didn't have
Starting point is 00:40:53 Obviously when you throw two picks and you get those minus points It's difficult and he's used to and we are used to those picks scoring touchdowns by the opposing defense But that didn't happen and that was really sad for me. When I want Jameis to throw in picks, I want those picks to be housed. He was 212 and 2 but had three turnovers. Yeah. So that was not, it was not up to expectation is all I mean. Tied ends. Oh and Jawan Jennings, you missed him, had another good game.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Oh he looked so good. 7 for 90 and two touchdowns. Debo. Pause, pause, we're about to talk about poop. Okay, yeah, we'll get there. That's where he belongs. And I watched. Oh, I was talking to Jerry about it the whole game. It's like, you saw it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I mean, we're talking about it now. Ah, yeah. There's no spoilers. Hey, hey, hey. Deebo kept getting the Deebo plays. Yeah, they poured cement in his shoes, though. They kept getting the Deebo. Here's how Deebo plays used to work.
Starting point is 00:41:46 You get him the ball behind the line of scrimmage. You get blockers out in front. There's one guy who leaks in. Debo basically clowns that guy, throws him off, can't tackle him. And then he goes down, breaks about 12 more tackles along the way. Now here's how it works. They get Debo the ball in the backfield. They get blockers down the field. One guy comes in, he tackles Debo very easily. I mean, that just didn't ever used to happen.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Now it happens every single time. All right, we'll talk more about it in a second. I wanna talk about big performances, studs at the tight end position, which was Kittle, Najoku, Juman Johnson. Hey. Keep your eyes open there. Yeah, man. Although, maybe close them after cars injury.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. Mike went through the whole cycle with me. Yeah, man. Although maybe close them after cars injury. Yeah. Mike went through the whole he went through the whole cycle with me. Yeah. He's like, oh, yeah. Oh, oh, no. Yeah. And I'm out. Uh, he got in. He got in one one side of the car, scooted across. Grandpa Simpson. He was the grandpa Simpson. Yeah. Um, Pat Friar Muth back in the end zone. Um, you know, if he scores, you're always gonna be happy. Welcome to the tight end world.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And then Johnny Smith. Johnny with the most ridiculous fantasy game. He is shut out. Full goose and regulation. Full goose, he goosed, he had zero points. The game was over. Four quarters, full goose. He should not be in the studs.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And then overtime was the Johnny Smith drive. And Trey McBride tried to do the same thing He was goosing at the half seven for seventy at the end of the game. They tried to get him a touchdown again they try I would say 80% he dropped it 20% Kyler missed him and We're never gonna get one. I'm gonna call a touchdown guarantee for Trey McBride Rest of season I tried it. I mean he will get one. Yes, I do Rest of season I tried it. Wait, what do you mean rest of season? I mean he will get one. Yes, I do Bowl the take he will get one before the end of the year. I'm not gonna even tell you what game
Starting point is 00:43:37 Cool, man, but I'm I guarantee it Wow. He was gonna get one. See I thought you were gonna be Somewhat more, you know courageous and say this next game against New England. I would never I will You will? Yeah, done. Okay, okay. Mr., I'm gonna go back there real quick. No. He is on pace right now.
Starting point is 00:43:55 If you remember Deontay Johnson had 142 targets, no touchdowns for Pittsburgh two years ago. That was the record. And Trey McBride is well on his way to. He might be able to do it. So... If anyone could get that done, it's Kyler. Him finishing in the top, I mean, I just want him to finish now at this point where we are.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Trey McBride will score next week. I want him to just finish as a top three, maybe even higher with no touchdowns. You're rooting, you want no touchdowns. Yeah, let's just finish this. It's a small sample, but I'm gonna say it because it's hilarious and fun, but Trey McBride is on pace for 232 targets over the last three games.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Yeah. This is the segment that- That's how you kill a man, just for the record. That's literally, I don't care who you are, I know Trey McBride is big and tough, but you can't. Well, he needs to reduce his hurdle count. Oh, I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Mr. McBride, stop it. There's a lot of hurdles. Stop it. Listen, this is more than McBride. Oh, Drake London had the stupidest hurdle in that game. You know who else did? Three times? Michael Mayer. Listen. He's too heavy to do that. Stop it. Hurdles are supposed to be special and rare. That's what makes them cool. If you try to do it on every play, you're going to die.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Didn't Derek Hart, isn't that how we got hurt? Yeah. The thing that is... Hurtle himself into a girdle. Yeah, the thing that people need to understand, if you're in the open field and it's a one-on-one Tackle time that's when you hurtle. Yeah when there's other defensive players nearby You can't hurtle three dudes you you're just gonna you're you're slowing down your progress to get Lacked if you cool if if you complete the hurdle now, there's always the possibility
Starting point is 00:45:42 You're not gonna complete the hurdle the possibility complete the hurdle. Now there's always the possibility you're not gonna complete the hurdle. The proshability. The proshability. But my point is like, you need to be a little bit more selective cause it's a high injury risk play.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And I'm pro hurdle. I want a good hurdle. But do it when you can run afterwards. Not when it's like, I'm gonna hurdle this guy while that guy tackles me. Now, Tucker Craft did the right thing. Cause he would have been annihilated by Joseph. That was not really a hurdle,
Starting point is 00:46:05 that was an avoiding attack. That's an escape. All right, we'll take a break, we'll have to duck. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Oh. Oh. Oh. No, I gotta know. We waited that whole ad break. That was a long ad break, and before you go, oh. Oh. Jason.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Did you poop? What'd you find out? I went to bet the Trey McBride touchdown, right? And it's next week, so you can't bet it. It's not there. There is a player's specials. I just clicked that button. I've never clicked that button. It's called the Trey McBride's Made. And they only have one thing you could bet for the entire game. Trey McBride's made nine plus receptions, but no touchdown.
Starting point is 00:46:48 You can bet it. Yeah, I mean, it's great odds, but I'm not, I don't know, I'm betting that. All right. Because he's gonna score a touchdown. Yeah, I guarantee it. Here we go, Dud's time. Poofed in his big boy pants.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Kurt Cousins. is big boy pants kirk cousins uh... jay jay's accuracy summarizes performances over the last four weeks ten points four points two points nine points uh... who put michael panics on our wall all do we really have we do all who is that that's a pro move who do i really have we do? Oh, who is that? That's a pro move who did I almost requested it? Oh, that was that was the Falcon the Falcon took care of that. That's a good one
Starting point is 00:47:31 Yeah, Kirk. I was I don't want to like I Want to be fair? 344 sucks He's done it's over you're not winning with him. It's over. $100 million dollars. Over. Wasted. The last month of football he is on pace for zero total passing touchdowns and 34 total interceptions. Now when he throws zero touchdowns, I'm just curious Jason, how many touchdowns does Drake London catch? He gets 100% target share of those touchdowns. Okay, and how many does Mooney score? 100% target hits 100 gets all of the touch on receiving touch is exactly a hundred percent of nothing be very afraid
Starting point is 00:48:14 I'm not look 344 cool So, you know, it's a lot of garbage time in that game, too Man that game got out of hand because Kurt Cousins cannot get it done. He can't move in the pocket. Every third throw comes out like my grandmother threw it. Yeah, I mean, for her grandma, she had a rocket. But look, I'm just watching. Raiders this week?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Raiders? Huh? Can I interest you? Is Max Crosby not playing? Because he will sack the crap out of Kurt Cousins. Man. They've lost all these games, right? I mean, they have to have gone four losses in a row. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Tampa Bay is at the... Yes, they have. They're leading the division now. I don't know, man. It's just, it's gone. And when it's gone, it's gone. And Mike said it last week. Achilles injuries to quarterbacks that are old.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Two and O. Yeah, Achilles two, quarterbacks nothing. Jordan Love, this was bad. 12 for 20, two oh six and one on Thursday. Not his fault, that's Josh Jacobs' fault. It's a lot of Jacobs, but also the past completions of 12, that's rough. But only throw, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yeah, and he only threw the ball 20 times. That's a weird rough. But only throw, I don't know. He only threw the ball 20 times. That's a weird game. They're just, too much Josh Jacobs. Let's reel that back. Throw the ball a little bit. Patrick Mahomes, 2-10 and one in his victory. Patrick, the youth of America are turning on you.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Running backs, duds. I haven't seen a lot of the shaved side, curly tops. No, not anymore. No, it's not cool. We're out. Josh Allen in. So the thin little weird mustache, is that what people are going to be doing?
Starting point is 00:49:54 I hope not. Girl on the Josh Allen. James Cook, Mike, this is one of the storylines at Running Back. Yes, it was. Duds of the Week, 6 for 20 in a game where his team scored 44 points, his fewest opportunities in a, uh, since week 15 of 2022, we wondered frequently whether they were,
Starting point is 00:50:14 whether he was hurt, but it was more so when Buffalo's in catch-up mode for the very first time this year, as opposed to mustard thing. Yeah. Um, Ty Johnson was the guy. That was a joke for Falcon. James Cook, though. Is this scary or is this an anomaly?
Starting point is 00:50:32 It's an anomaly. I'm not worried. Has to play Detroit in the fantasy playoffs next week. I mean, that's a bad matchup. I don't love that. But I mean, you go back one week and James Cook was awesome, got two touchdowns. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:50:45 look at him this coming week in Detroit as you know probably an RB2 but probably started in most leagues. Jacobs did score three times against Detroit. As did Kenneth Walker right? Huh? Earlier in the season? Yeah I believe he had three touchdowns earlier in the season maybe maybe it was two but. Wow. And keep in mind. He believe he had three touchdowns earlier in the season. Maybe it was two, but. Wow. Hold on a second. And keep in mind. He did. He had three rushing touchdowns. Keep in mind, we've been talking about the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:51:11 The injuries to Detroit's defense are monumental. So I'm not looking away from James Cook because of this performance. Which is what people need to hear after a bad week. Isaiah Pacheco, 14 for 55, Kareem Hunt five for 12. Disappointing, but you need to, this is like a takeaway moment. You had 14 carries for Pacheco to five for Kareem Hunt.
Starting point is 00:51:36 46% of the snaps to 29% of the snaps. Pacheco is now a startable player. This was a hard matchup against the Chargers who are one of the best run defenses in the league. Low scoring, divisional matchup, but Pacheco's good to go. He should be started going forward. Nick Chubb, only 36% of snaps. Jerome Ford was 56% of snaps. That's a problem. Yeah, you can't play him. Yeah, when they're playing catch up it's going to be more forward and then Jaylen Warren 9 for 47. A wide receiver, Jayden Reid, the
Starting point is 00:52:10 goose on Thursday night. Amon Ra, season low performance of 5 for 43. You don't worry about Amon Ra. To play Jayden Reid at this point after a goose is very difficult to do, but the matchups are good. So, you know, he's gonna be better than some other options this week, he really will. Yeah, playing him, if you don't have the right players to get Reid out, this is not a, don't be angry and spiteful. I mean, are you got me zero points? He is a good player.
Starting point is 00:52:46 He's not a top 12 guy for fantasy football, but he should probably be in the majority of lineups. A.J. Brown, another disappointing week. We talked about it. If you look at the last six games played, he's on pace for just 76 receptions. I gotta go watch this press conference. Yeah, do you have any fears of what we saw last year?
Starting point is 00:53:06 It was the locker room chat, not the presser. Because last season we saw AJ Brown the first nine weeks, he was the wide receiver one. Yeah, that stretch of 150s. Yes, I have massive worries about that. And then the whole second half, the last eight games played last season, he would not have had pace for 1,000 yards. And he had one touchdown over the course of eight games. He's not different.
Starting point is 00:53:28 He's the same. He's always open. He makes every contested catch. He's not getting the opportunities. I'm very worried about it. Well, don't worry. And when your quarterback throws for under 200, you're capped. Guys, do not worry, because it's not
Starting point is 00:53:42 working for the Philadelphia Eagles. Oh, I get it. Sarcasm because they keep winning. Yeah. Yeah, I mean this- That's why I want to watch the locker room. I want to see the face of a man who's mad that their team has rattled off nine straight victories. Yeah. Saquon is working. Their defense is great.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Why would you change the recipe? They're not interested in AJ Brown's- You've won nine straight games! Receiving lines. Are you big mad? This is- this is gonna- this- Their defense is great. Why would you change the recipe? They're not interested in AJ Brown's Receiving my man. This is this is gonna this come on you can easily see a path where this continues and It's very difficult almost impossible to say to recommend benching a you can't bench AJ Brown, but you might not get What you want? I mean if if you have, like, there are situations where I think you might choose to bench AJ Brown. Jawan Jennings. Jawan Jennings was the name that came to mind. Cool, cool man.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I would 100% I'm not benching Jawan Jennings, who's been awesome. Cortland Sutton. He's a guy that you might have got off waivers halfway through. You got to play him over AJ Brown right now. You got to rebrand Jawan Jennings in your head. Just look at it like it's JJ.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Like, oh, I got Justin Jefferson here. Dude, the JJs rocked this week. Yeah, they did. But Jerry Judy, Justin Jefferson, Juwan Jennings. It was a good strat. What's wrong with DK Metcalf? 4 for 49 against Arizona, which he can't. But like the last month, wide receiver, 32, 37, 41, 42.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Well, he's very banged up. I mean he he missed a couple games He's been playing through injuries. He is also Seating sees the wide receiver to on his own. I was gonna say it JSN is is really taking over JSN's I believe since the kind of shopping network has happened Jason's on on pace for like almost 1800 receiving yards. Since week four, Debo Samuel is the wide receiver. That is a full bench. That's not a 55 you want. That's a full bench. Yeah, I mean, it should be. He's really been bad. If you look, I mean, since week three, he's had two games, two, where he
Starting point is 00:55:46 had, not just, he's had two games where he hasn't busted. I mean, we're talking about total fantasy points of 2.5 in a week, of zero in a week, of 4.1 in a week, of 2.6, two, 4.5. This is the regular... They won going away, scored four points. Let's just... And the film backs it up. up the film is he's not breaking tackles the whole thing that makes Debo Samuel The now you're a man is like you just can't tackle this guy is bigger stronger than you now He's slower and heavier now your old man That's what how it feels it It's gonna be really tough. I maybe he'll have another game this year where he scores a couple touchdowns, but it'll be on the bench and maybe you
Starting point is 00:56:30 Do you land mine him? Do you tempt someone out there to start putting him on waiver sure I mean, I would pick him up from my league record keen and Allen and Westbrook. Okina return to earth Westbrook Okene was so close. He was. To having the game, would have been winning touchdown? That part I don't remember. I think winning touchdown.
Starting point is 00:56:53 But he missed it. And one for 19. And as soon as you return to the bench, you'll score again. And Marvin Harrison, I mean, if he doesn't score a touchdown, he's averaging 3.7 fantasy points a game. That is Marvin Harrison right now. Which, breaking news, that's also most wide receivers and that's also Michael Wilson. Like, that that is not... A 22% target share for a top five pick, a wide receiver who is drafted in the top five, 22% target share is not, that's not forgivable.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Well, I don't blame that low of a target share because the catch percentage and the in sync with Kyler percentage, it's not always a good idea to target him right now as a rookie. The play calling in Arizona is- That's what I'm talking about. It's driving me insane. Jason, you and I watched the L22 a few weeks ago when Kyler had one of his, what would that be? Is that the Jekyll performance?
Starting point is 00:57:53 Which one's the good one, Jekyll or Hyde? I think Jekyll is the good. Yeah, so his Hyde performance- No, Jekyll's the bad guy in the story. Whatever one's bad. Dr. Hyde is the scientist who turns himself in. Hold on, we've got- I don't know what you want for fantasy.
Starting point is 00:58:09 It's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. The doctor is- What, I had it backwards? Mr. Hyde's bad. Jekyll is good. Wow, okay. Okay, I'm dumb. Anyways, Kyler's been Hyde, all right?
Starting point is 00:58:20 Hi, Ding. And when he is, you know, the all 22, the play calls for this Cardinals offense They'll run four guys into long developing routes down the field. They give him no escape. It's unbelievable But at the same time Marvin Harrison jr. He's the wide receiver 25 on the year a disappointment for where you drafted him he is leading I believe all rookie wide receivers in touchdowns and You know, he's had a lot of big games, so this isn't a, some of these players we're talking about, I don't know how you start them anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You brought up in the games where he doesn't have a touchdown, he's awful. But in the games where he has a touchdown, he's averaging 17 fantasy points. It's not like it's just a touchdown, so he's getting to 10. He has good games and bad games, and really that's just what Kyler is 10. He has good games and bad games, and really that's just what Kyler is.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Kyler has good games and bad games. New England at home, but I can't imagine that I'm going Harrison over Jennings, or Sutton, the names you mentioned before. Jennings. Was that a Forrest Gump? That was a Forrest Gump. Swish!
Starting point is 00:59:20 Busted! I got it out first, I got it out first. That was a swish, because. What in the world Where did you pull that I heard the way Andy said no this was great look? Well go to do sirs alley here. We got a nine and a ten these does a great joke That was great because Andy the way he said Jennings was just like how Forrest Gump Jennings
Starting point is 00:59:44 It's good it's good I'm gonna just like how Forrest Gump, Jen Ains. It's good, it's good for, I'm gonna need feedback on that one. No, I'm off apparently. I think- Just because the two poopers laugh doesn't necessarily mean you nailed it. The people loved it. Brock Bowers, three for 49. Uh oh. Uh oh. Sp Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Spaghetti-os. I mean, you don't get to make a mistake two weeks in a row in the playoffs. And so the idea of moving away from Brock Bowers if you had another option. Gen Nanks. Oh no, now you're lying. Yeah, you like it. Oh no. Yeah. Moving away from Barack powers if you had another option Try it it's fun
Starting point is 01:00:37 If you've seen Forrest Gump this I mean obviously if you if you haven't seen Forrest Gump This is not it's not a good job. That's just called a reference and you don't get it. Don't watch Forrest Gump Jennings It's a lot of fun. Try it at home. How do you spell that though? How do you put that in the nickname? and you don't get it. Go watch Forrest Gump. Jennings. It's a lot of fun, try it at home. How do you spell that though? How do you put that in the nickname chart? Yeah, you can't. Oh poor Juwan Jennings. Brock Bowers, you're gonna keep playing him and praying.
Starting point is 01:00:56 But nine targets for Michael Mayer in this game. There was a point in the game where I was wondering if Brock Bowers banged up. TJ Hawkinson, four for 45, not what you wanted. Evan Ingram 4 for 33. Travis Kelsey 5 for 45. Cole Comett goose for goosey goose. And Kyle Pitts with his cursory one catch on six targets. Man, Kyle Pitts. I keep wondering. Are we like, is this funeral for pits and Debo are like baby so with Kyle Pitts, I
Starting point is 01:01:28 genuinely keep wondering how much is him but if you know, he's going to get a Decent to big second contract he will he's he's a young highly drafted athletic whatever like all you see the open market tight ends go and get decent contracts based on very little work done. Someone out there will pay for Kyle Pitts and I just, I scratched my head to go, is it all him? Is it mostly him?
Starting point is 01:02:00 Is it half him? Like if he were to go to a different team paying money, different scheme, better quarterback, could it work? I don't know, I'm skeptical. I think he phones it in a lot. I don't think he can separate very easily in any intermediate route. He can get downfield and hide, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:21 He's got some top speed if he gets up to speed, but when I watch him run the routes, the Kelsey route, the McBride route, in the middle of the field, I go and I make a break and I try to get out quick, I don't see that. That's what I see the, and that's the easy stuff for a tight end
Starting point is 01:02:36 to rack up the total reception. That's where it feels lazy. There's been a couple curl routes or braking routes where it's like, the effort just seems like. I don't think his legs work. Yeah, something's weird. They did pick up his fifth year option, so he's got one more year in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Can they undo that? I don't think so. I don't know if you can. They would take it back if they could. Can you? Well, we get a Monday Night Football game tonight, and we'll be watching that. Go, Burrow! Many of you are very, you know, you have your playoffs in the balance. We're gonna get a Monday Night Football game tonight and we'll be watching that. Go Borough!
Starting point is 01:03:05 Many of you are very, you know, you have your playoffs in the balance. We've got waivers and streamers on tomorrow's show. We got Hungry for More, mail back Thursday night preview on Wednesday and we'll be with you as we head into the fantasy football playoffs. Obviously I won't be here, I've got the bye,
Starting point is 01:03:21 so I'll be, I think I'm hit the beach, maybe. Oh, nice. Are you flying down south? I don't know. I'll call Jalen up, and we'll go hang out. OK, it might be a little chilly. Jenang's. Oh, no.
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