Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 14 Studs & Duds + The Goose King - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/11

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

Week 14 recap! On todayโ€™s fantasy football podcast, a recap of a wild weekend of football!ย  Which studly performances of Week 14 could repeat in the fantasy playoffs? Plus, injury updates, Monday P...unday, and all hail the Goose King! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for December 11th, 2023. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Studs of the Week, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. Visit youtube.com/fantasyfootballers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Welcome in! The Fantasy Footballers back with you. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Monday edition of the show. Monday Night Football doubleheader still to come. Lots of reactions from the weekend. This was definitely one of those weekends where we saw more bad than good, I would say. I would definitely say that that is true. A lot of injuries, certain games finishing with three total points.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I mean, you know, there was some ugly, but there was also some surprise greatness. That Baltimore Rams game in the bad weather. Yeah, rain games versus my analysis were the rain games won. Yeah, I mean, you had Zach Wilson perform very well in the rain, in the weather. It's something to watch out for, but man, how do the Vikings stop the Raiders from scoring any points when the Chiefs defense couldn't stop the Raiders from scoring in Arrowhead when people are playing the Chiefs
Starting point is 00:02:45 defense. Any given Sunday. Yeah, the NFL algebra was broken. But that happens all the time. Well, it happens in fantasy football, too. For instance, I mean, just like hypothetically speaking, you know, you could do everything you need to do to beat, you know, one of the high scoring teams in the league to get in the playoffs, and then you do it.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And then someone else who's been outscored by 400 points by their opponent beats that guy and then keeps you out of the playoffs. Those things happen in fantasy football, too. Hypothetically. Yeah, and I โ€“ look, I โ€“ I'm fine. Mike, I knew his head bob was insincere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I knew his head bob was made up. He had a smirk. He's just โ€“ it was acting. Acting. And scene. I mean, yeah, shout out. Thanks, Papa Josh, for scoring about half the points you scored against me. It didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Fantasy is brutal. It can be. Last week, it was Nico Collins and Sam Laporta that scored like 60 points. This week, they combined for what, four? I don't think they got there. Yeah, they might not have. I mean, we have all your reactions. Monday, punday on today's show.
Starting point is 00:03:54 News to talk about. More injuries to talk about. Fantasy playoffs coming up, and it'll be a dependency on maybe 15 backup quarterbacks to provide value to their players on their squad. And then studs, duds on today's show as well. We have a giveaway going live today at FootClanGiveaway.com. A signed Travis Etienne jersey along with a fantasy footballer swag pack,
Starting point is 00:04:22 which will be some shirts. Oh, that's way better. Some gear. It's all together. Yeah. Are we going to sign some of that? some shirts. Oh, that's way better. Some gear. It's all together. Yeah. Are we going to sign some of that? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:28 So that's worth more. I'm signing the ETN jersey. Oh, yes. We should all sign it. ETN and Mike. I thought he was going to say he's going to sign Travis ETN's name on all the footballer stuff. Just like he did on the jersey.
Starting point is 00:04:40 No, we have the certificate, Jason. Yes. It is authentic. It's super real. And he got into the end zone this week as well. So FootClanGiveaway.com, completely free to enter. And just head over there if you'd like a chance to win that. We like to do some giveaways throughout the year.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It is time to get sophisticated with this weekend's Monday Punday reactions. Let's start with the good and let's start with the tight end position like Heaven Ingram. Or Isaiah Lovely. David Winchoku. And what would a weekend be without Scorland Sutton. Oh, this guy was back. Cooper Yup. Or T. Deboe Samuel.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And then Rasheesh Rice. Yeah, he was good, but it wasn't all good. No, it wasn't. Sometimes there's players like Clyde Edwards, who cares? Or Patrick McJones. That's my favorite one I think I've ever seen. Patrick McJones. Then there's Jared Belarf.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Man, he stunk. And Justin Hurtbert. Yeah, yeah. Stefan Diggins, my grave. What happened? I don't know. Amon Ra, St. Brownstains. It wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:06:01 David Midgummery. Yes, and Gabe Doofus. Gabe Legend. Gabe Legend. It wasn't good. David Midgummery. Oh. Yes. And Gabe Doofus. Oh, Gabe. Gabe Legend. Yeah. Gabe Legend. We cannot. Gabe Doofus is real funny.
Starting point is 00:06:15 We cannot besmirch what this man has done. I mean, it's incredible. Gabe Davis, you are. We said what if. You are. What if he goosed for a third time in six weeks? But every other week? Every other week. I mean, I'm telling you right now
Starting point is 00:06:25 start of the week this week i mean are you kidding me what a massacre to fantasy managers it's a masterpiece you can trust me you can trust me we did it was this last week yeah december 8th we said he shall be crowned the goose king yeah if he comes through his zero points again do you think i had this working theory today this morning thinking about gabe doofus oh man i was like do you think that nfl teams you know we're late in the season they're preparing for their opponent and they just go and they watch last week's tape and every time they watch last week's tape they go oh this guy's important we gotta lock him down and they do and then the next team time they watch last week's tape, they go, oh, this guy's important. We've got to lock him down. And they do.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And then the next team goes, they watch that tape, and they go, oh, that guy's completely uninvolved. Yeah, don't worry about it. He doesn't even catch the ball, doesn't get targets. We don't need to worry about him. They're always reacting to just the week before. Just the week prior. 19-0, 8-0, 19-0. Stephon, listen, they won. The Buffalo Bills beat the Chiefs. They Listen, they won.
Starting point is 00:07:26 The Buffalo Bills beat the Chiefs. They did. They won. Stephon Diggs was 4-24. Didn't he have like 12 targets? And on the other side, Gabe Davis took advantage of that 4-24. Took advantage of the fact that LeJarius Sneed was lined up against Stephon Diggs, right?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Mm-hmm. To the tune of zero for zero. Incredible. He's a magician. You guys seen the video of the guys handing out the ice cream cones? Oh, where they never. But every time the customer goes to grab it, they just pull it away. But then they keep offering it.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It looks so delicious. You want this, don't you?'s gabe davis for sure it is oh my gosh i can't believe he did it i'm so happy and so sad he's a street magician that's what he is i would never ever play him thankfully but i also miss the good stuff by doing that other people take a different route hey i won with them in my lineup yeah that's impressive that's true news and notes from around the league presented by usaa insurance more quarterback injuries justin herbert fractured his right index finger undergoing undergoing an mri today yeah they play Yeah, that's fractured. They play on.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I guess MRI was that ligaments? Yeah, you're going to see whether you need surgery or not on the finger. I'm guessing he will. He's not going to play this Thursday, at least not expected to play. Did you call them ligaments? Yeah, I corrected myself. You took out the A? Yeah, ligaments.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Well, when they're broken, it's missing a piece, so it's a ligament. It's a ligament. You want ligaments. Sometimes you've got a ligament, need surgery. Okay. CJ Stroud left with a concussion. I mean, CJ Stroud had everything working against him. I don't blame the rain.
Starting point is 00:09:25 No? You blame Tank Dell, Nico Collins being gone, and the Jets' great defense. And Dalton Schultz being gone. Yeah. So a defense that shuts down wide receivers combined with no wide receivers combined with no tight ends. And let's just throw in the rain for good measure at least. But I don't blame it just because Zach Wilson threw touchdowns in it.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah, he did. Nico Collins, this was huge news. Left with a calf injury. Did not return. A week after Tank Dell goes down. There are certain situations this week that have transpired that have multi-week implications.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And are going to throw some shade on the players you've trusted for a long period of time, like C.J. Stroud. Even if Stroud is back, if he doesn't have those two players, you're going to have doubt. Herbert, if he's gone, Keenan Allen's been a top five scorer in fantasy this year. Without Justin Herbert, you're going to have doubt this week. And for goodness sakes, if you picked up Joshua Palmer, just you know,
Starting point is 00:10:26 free him. Free him right back to the meadow. I was going to say into the ocean like a whale. Like a turtle? Like an orca that's in captivity. You free them. The issue with Nico Collins, if you remember, this is a re-aggravation.
Starting point is 00:10:44 He was dealing with a calf injury that kept him out week 10. So the fact that he already had this, re-injured it, was ruled out very quickly early in this game, leads us to believe chances are he misses this week. I flew too close to the sun. Both almost subsets did not hit, but that one did. The Jets beating Houston. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. You flew too close because you had two. almost upsets did not hit, but that one did. The Jets beating Houston. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Oh, yes. You flew too close because you had two. I was going to say, I did put money down on the Jets because you're almost upset. Oh, okay. So, thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. I forgot what your other one was. Let's just forget it. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:11:16 What? Okay. Who knows? Who knows? Panthers. I would never do that. Alexander Mattis. Hey, for the record.
Starting point is 00:11:25 You did the Panthers? That's on you, bro. That game was so close for so long. Yeah. And they had it in the red zone down 7-3. Yeah. And Bryce Young, I'm sorry. Dude, Frank Reich watching that game, he had to be cackling like a maniac.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He's legs up on the ottoman. Jeff Saturday is like what I could have done this week. Listen, I tweeted it. People were angry, very angry. I tweeted, you know, it's tough to have no quarterback. It's even tougher to have no quarterback and be stuck with it. This is a Bryce Young tweet because i'm sorry like what you need to see and everybody came back with uh steve young and peyton manning and all these rookie seasons where they weren't
Starting point is 00:12:12 that good you need flashes people you need flashes josh rosen is what you're getting in carolina you're not getting peyton manning the rookie. Didn't Peyton, I know Peyton threw I think he was like one for one for interceptions, but didn't he also, like at the time, break the touchdown rookie record? Am I misremembering that? He had 3,700 yards and 26 touchdowns. And he set five different rookie
Starting point is 00:12:38 records. But no, he's the same as Bryce Young. Look, I understand being bitter and upset and wanting people to give you more of an opportunity, and I watch this team every week. That's our job. It's not all Bryce Young's fault. People have no understanding of nuance in the world.
Starting point is 00:12:54 You can have a bad quarterback and a bad offensive line and bad wide receivers. That can be completely true at the same time, but it still includes a bad quarterback. His receivers do him no favors. They jump weirdly, like a mingaroo, and they have a bunch of... They got Thielen who's older, and then they have a bunch of drops.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But he is missing NFL quality throws all the time, not aware in the pocket. He had Mingo down the seam. That wasn't Mingo's fault. Wide open for a touchdown. Not aware in the pocket. He had Mingo down the seam. You know, that wasn't Mingo's fault. Like wide open for a touchdown. Mingo was super open, just got overthrown. I mean, you can say, you don't bury a guy completely in his rookie season.
Starting point is 00:13:34 No. But you can certainly see the signs and say, he has a long way to go to bring your team any type of situation. You're trapped. Yeah, well, it's going to be a really tough decision. They'll have the number one pick, and so they've got their wait wait that's right they traded that pick away for him they traded away for what will equate to like caleb williams dj more a top 10 pick uh this upcoming year and then two seconds and you are that's what my point was is you're really stuck like if you have derrick carr and you're
Starting point is 00:14:04 the saints and you spent that money, you're not stuck. You can eat the money and move on and the fans can accept that. You can't accept that in Carolina. And C.J. Stroud makes it feel so much worse. If C.J. Stroud sucked this year, we wouldn't feel like it's as devastating for the Panthers. But when you did that trade to get ahead of them,
Starting point is 00:14:23 you get to pick and you pick wrong. It's like insult to injury all right vikings injuries alexander madison left early with an ankle injury didn't return dude he was playing very well looks to be a high ankle it's almost the exact same injury he had his rookie season he missed three games then um justin jefferson left with a rib. It was literally the definition of a hospital ball. Yeah. And sent him to the hospital because he got lit up.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Caught the ball. Yeah, he caught it. But right back out. Just in, just out. Yeah, it's one of those situations where this is going to be โ€“ I know it's called chest, but I think this is like ribs. And so they'll go to the hospital. I haven't heard whether they are broken or not, I know it's called chess, but I think this is like ribs. And so they'll go to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I haven't heard whether they are broken or not, but what I was reading was that if they're broken, he will probably miss some time. If the results are that they're not broken, he could probably play this coming week. Last I saw, there was optimism that he will play this weekend. Going to the hospital doesn't guarantee you miss, just like Derek Carr a couple weeks ago. It also is going to be a tough situation for Jefferson
Starting point is 00:15:27 because you have Joshua Pumpkin. No, Dobbs, it's done. But then you've got Mullins or you've got Jaron Hall, and those are not confidence plays at wide receiver. And they're 7-6? Yeah, they're in the playoffs. With their dominating shutout victory. Josh Jacobs left early, right knee injury, did not return.
Starting point is 00:15:49 He was limping off pretty bad. We'll have to TBD there. Waivers will be important tomorrow. No cart? I did not see him on a cart. I think he walked, yeah. Once he saw Lawrence, he's like, yeah, tough guys. What if they just started doing that to be tough?
Starting point is 00:16:03 Hey, it worked for Lawrence. That's fair. He walked it off. Lawrence took a cart like a baby. He misses this week. It's like other guys would take a cart. He walked it off. He just walked it off.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Aaron Jones not expected to play. I'd be on the cart if I'm dehydrated. Yeah. Bring it in. Bring it in. That guy almost hit me. I'm going to need a cart. I'm thirsty.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Aaron Jones not expected to play tonight. That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Studs of the Week, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. You know, Jason, I was in the same boat. I saw you winning yesterday, and I had checked in the same boat. I saw you winning yesterday. And I had checked in on the other matchup that you needed to get
Starting point is 00:16:49 into the playoffs. Early in the day. And that team was favored by like 50. That team was favored by 50. That team has outscored the other team by 400 on the course of the season. And halfway through the day, it was done. You were going to go in. And I just had to beat Papa Josh. Yeah, which you did. Which I which i did yeah but he did not make the playoffs no you didn't and then the
Starting point is 00:17:11 other team i mean when they have stars like drake london isaiah likely you were doomed yeah i can't believe it it didn't work well the champion back to back is not happening the champion will not repeat and i i can say i Al, you're in this league. Mike, we're all heartbroken that you didn't have a chance to go back-to-back. Thanks. Al, you're feeling sad, right? Not at all. You better.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You're the reason I'm out. Your team, oh, I hate you. I spared the league from whatever you would have. Yes. Al is a hero. I spared your bank account. Can we get a round of applause for Al Borland for eliminating... Hit for yourself there, Al. There we go.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, Al Borland, everybody. Down goes the champ. Let the record show I hit that button. Hey, good for you. I dunked on myself. You did his job for him. It's okay. The most important league, Mike.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We're still alive. Yeah. Do the tears run down your face every time you say most important league? They get close. They get close. All right. Studs this week. Lamar Jackson. 24 for 43. 3-16-3. This game was really entertaining
Starting point is 00:18:20 to watch because Lamar just he just bounced around the pocket on every play which did which let him take deep shot after deep shot you know Isaiah likely wide open Beckham was great downfield lots of deep shots Zay Flowers was doing nothing then he was doing everything I mean really had all the time he wanted ran for 70 yards dominated yeah mean, part of this was the reason Lamar did so well is because Stafford did so well, and the Rams offense looked great. This was really, truly back and forth.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It was like lead change, lead change, lead change. Every time the other team touched the ball, they went down and scored, and it was like, all right, our turn. It was awesome to watch. It was through the rain. It was with a good defense, and it was just two all right, our turn. It was awesome to watch. It was through the rain. It was with a good defense. And there was just two teams really, really, really wanting to win. And the Rams looked so good to me on offense.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I mean, this is a very good Baltimore defense at home. And they were not intimidated. There are people that lost C.J. Stroud that may not have confidence in Stroud even with the return from the concussion. There are people that lost Justin Herbert. Yeah.oud that may not have confidence in Stroud even with the return from the concussion. There are people that lost Justin Herbert. Boy, do I have good news for you. Matthew Stafford plays Washington. Well, that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Matthew Stafford is on my list of pickups in a league where I lost Herbert. Yes. And the weapons. He's got them all right now. Cooper Cup came back. Yeah, the next three is the Manders, the Saints, the Giants. 294-3. Pretty good stretch run for, and that means not only for Stafford,
Starting point is 00:19:50 but for Puka, for Cooper. Puka and Cooper. Weeks 1 through 9, Stafford had nine passing touchdowns. Weeks 12 through 14, he has 10. He's been on fire. Just to speak to Lamar, this is the kind of, this is like the treat in the bread trail. Like the bread trail is starting to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:09 you finally get to the point where there's almost no more bread. And you're like, I'm going to stop following this bread trail. And then there's a huge piece. And then you keep going because this is his highest scoring game since week seven. In between that time, 12, 11, 13, 24, 15. So those are the fantasy rank or the. No, those are 11, 13, 24, 15. Those are the fantasy rank? No, those are the points.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Oh, yuck. 12, 11, 13, 24, 15. So in that span, that's like an average, a very low average fantasy points-wise, 15 a game, goes to Jacksonville, goes to San Francisco, and people just, you've got to play Lamar, but it's not a guarantee you get production. That's just basically the truth of Lamar right now. I would agree with that. I do think that the game against San Francisco in two weeks,
Starting point is 00:20:54 if you're still in the playoffs and you've got Lamar, that one to me looks great, and Miami, because those are two offenses that should be able to keep up, like the Rams did. Mike, I think, went four for four on starts of the week this week. I still got one more tonight. Oh, he went three for four. Yeah, he finished.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He finished at three for four because I forgot A.J. Dillon. Justin Fields was one of Mike's starts this week. Had a big game, 58 on the ground, a rushing touchdown, a passing touchdown. Now has to go to Cleveland. Oh, my gosh. The play. That doesn't feel great. No, that doesn't feel great for next week.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But the play of DJ Moore's touchdown, the receiving touchdown, simultaneously so amazing, great for fantasy, so infuriating because it was the dumb play of we're not going to do anything. We're just trying to draw you off sides, which is amongst my most hated things that people do in the NFL because it's no one falls for this. Stop doing it. Of course.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Of course Detroit falls for it, jumps off sides, and gives them a free touchdown. You know what's funny is there was another one of those plays in the Dallas game, and it was on third down. It was third and nine, and they drew them off sides. And you know how everybody reacts when you draw them off sides. What do you hope the offense does? Just throw it deep. Yeah, but I started to realize on third down, that's stupid. That's really stupid because if you just chuck it deep and you fail on that play,
Starting point is 00:22:26 like you were calling a third and nine play to get a first down, right? Right. But if you just chuck it deep, which they did, and it was a meaningless throw, it went flying over somebody's head, you get a five-yard penalty and then you got to go third and four. You got to run the play again. So if you had the chance to get the first down, you got to take the chance to get the first down.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I like it on first and second down, but on third down, I thought it didn't quite make sense. Or third and short. Or third and short where you get the first down. They didn't get it after that. So it was like. I'd still go for it. I was like, you wasted a chance to get it. Desmond Ritter, Jake Browning.
Starting point is 00:22:56 The Jake Browning was, I mean, it was great. He was a stream of the week, so it came through, But it was just, how can they not stop a screen pass? What happened? It was just so much of his yards. It was Tanner Hudson standing over there on the side. Well, yeah, I mean, what a DFS play Tanner Hudson turned out to be. There was also a 54-yard screen pass to Chase Brown. Chase Brown, Joe Mixon had a huge, I don't think he scored on it,
Starting point is 00:23:22 but it was a huge screen. It was, what are we, how can you not stop the screen? It is, yeah, Chase Brown is very fast. Very fast. Very, very fast. Speaking of running back studs, we'll get to those in just a sec. There wasn't a delightful pun, but he was mentioned a lot. And James Cook, 10 for 58 on the ground, 5 for 83 and 1 through the air.
Starting point is 00:23:53 A lot of people just giving credit to the new offensive coordinator situation in Buffalo for using James Cook the right way. Well, and the way is in the passing game. I mean, seven targets two weeks ago, six receptions, five receptions the last two weeks. If you are getting James Cook, the ball in space, also getting PPR points, he's going to be very good for fantasy. You're talking the last three weeks under Joe Brady, the running back nine, the running back 17, and so far the running back two.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Well, and for them to win the game with four total receptions between Stephon Diggs and Gabe Davis, Gabe had zero, to be clear. It's got to involve Cook and Kincaid and some of these other weapons. Brees Hall, 10 for 40 on the ground? That's pretty good for him. Nine targets, eight for 86 and one through the year of course he has he had a big week and this is why i think when push came to shove we just kind of said you had to play breeze i was really it was not exciting i was so happy because earlier
Starting point is 00:24:58 in the week we were talking about you know who would you play because we're talking about what a good start zeke would be and then it was was like, well, would you start Zeke over Brees Hall? And then eventually it was like, no, you wouldn't. And then it was like, oh, shoot, that was wrong because Zeke was, well, Zeke was the number one running back on the week, still outscored Brees Hall. But it was nice that Brees had himself a very, very big game. 86 yards through the air with a touchdown is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:25:21 That's the way that this team needs to, like, if you don't have an offensive line and you've got a supreme athlete like this, that's what you need to be doing. Get him the ball in space on the other side of the offensive line and then let him run. How about Dollar Store CMC, who's almost to the CMC level? I mean, 25 for 102
Starting point is 00:25:38 on the ground for Rashad White, 2 for 33 and a touchdown through the air. The running back 4 on the season. I mean, his opportunities, guys, I don't know if you've seen this, the last two weeks, 25 and 27 opportunities. He's playing a snap percentage that is unbelievable. I mean, 87%, 84%, 87%. That's unheard of.
Starting point is 00:26:10 That's every down Christian McCffrey type of stuff and and he's the rb4 on the year like jason i would call him the generic christian mccaffrey like not dollar store dollar store is like the cheap version this is just like hey you don't have to pay name brand sometimes it's a good deal is it the generic like the medications exactly right i'm just getting they work the same store brand ibuprofen instead of Advil. Yeah, they work pretty much the same. They do. You know, maybe the placebo effect is better on the name brand, but you pay more.
Starting point is 00:26:34 It is. Joe Mixon, Jason's start of the week, also carried Jason to a win in this week's DFS battle, the face-off. 21 for 79 and one four targets three catches looks great chase brown getting more involved but joe makes is still their guy sometimes it's nice to have a good change of pace back that can stress the defense like chase brown joe mixon has looked
Starting point is 00:26:59 really tough he's been like doing the runs where you got guys on your back and he's still moving the pile austin eckler 10 for 51 on the ground seven targets five for 49 should be helpful in your playoffs there was a play in this game that gave me ultimate hope i watched i was i was far away from my tv at the moment when it happened it was a little dump off screen right over the offensive line and then eckler ran really fast that's the one where he like fist pumped afterwards yes yes and but I saw that I was like man you are so happy to do used to do all the time I watched it from a distance and I went oh who is that because that's not Eckler like that was fast all of a sudden I was like I was like is that is that Spiller because Spiller's not that fast and then I walked to the TV and I saw that three and that zero and I was like he's back baby yeah Justin Herbert's gone so I saw that three and that zero. And I was like, he's back, baby.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And now Justin Herbert's gone. I was going to say, and they're playing for nothing. I'm surprised they didn't walk Brandon Steele right out the building after the game. I think with the Justin Herbert injury, they're just going to let him ride out the season. He is gone. Oh, he gone. He be out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Bijan Robinson, he scored 10 for 34 and a touchdown, seven targets, RB8 on the year. It wasn't a weak winning performance, but it was nice. I'm telling you, the Loki change for me of Arthur Smith, he has made. How'd that go for him? Oh, I don't care if he wins or loses. Oh, I care. To be fair, it's gone well for him. He's won two How'd that go for him? Oh, I don't care if he wins or loses. Oh, I care. To be fair, it's gone well for him. He's won two of the last
Starting point is 00:28:27 three weeks. In this game, they had a chance to win it at the end. They did win. And then the defense led a game-winning drive. Huge drive by Baker. And 6-7, all three teams top that division. 6-7. But the Bichon snaps are where we need them to be.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And the targets, the work, the red zone utilization. He keeps scoring now when you give him the ball inside the five. It's so crazy. Should have had two. Desmond Ritter missed them wide open. Yeah, top ten running back. Three of the last four games for him now. Javante Williams, 17 for 66, his first rushing touchdown of the season.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Christian McCaffrey, 16 for 145. He got caught on the floor. Oh, man. That was so brutal. That was rough. Can the Niners do anything wrong? Like, anything. Jordan Mason got three touches.
Starting point is 00:29:18 He scored a touchdown. Debo gets a few touches. Kill scored. Iuke had a good game. It's unbelievable. I feel like there should be a rule. If you have a play that is 50 yards or more and you get tackled on the, let's say, inside the three-ish, you get half of the touchdown.
Starting point is 00:29:39 If somebody else followed up and scored on the next play? Maybe the NFL should just automatically award a 30-second timeout for any big play so that the teams can catch their breath. I'm fine with that, too. I'm just trying to... You always root for that backup guy to get stuffed. Without looking, do you guys know who the Niners play next week?
Starting point is 00:29:58 It's the Cardinals. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I looked. I will pay $12,000 for CMC in my DK lineup. Yeah. The Card. I looked. I know. I will pay $12,000 for CMC in my DK lineup. Yeah, the Cardinals. Great. Jameer Gibbs, 11 for 66 on the ground. Had a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Big run. And then ETN back into the end zone to save his day. Didn't have a ton of production, but got into the end zone. Those 249 are wide out. Brandon Ayuk, 6 for 126. Deebo Samuel, 7 for 149. And another touchdown. Another big play.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Another rushing touchdown in addition to his receiving touchdown. When they've had a healthy Deebo Samuel and Trent Williams, this is from Ian Harditz, here's their point totals. 30, 30, 30, 35, 42, 34, 27, 31, 42, and 28 points. That's what I mean. They just seem like they can't do anything wrong right now. Drake London. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Best game of his career. This is part of the Arthur thing. 11 targets, 10 for 172. Targeted on nearly 30% of his routes and one of the best catches of the season. You mean when Ritter targeted the defender? Yeah. The ball was thrown to the defender and Drake London, heon he's he undercut the literally made an interception drake
Starting point is 00:31:10 london made an interception on offense he did i felt like this was in some ways his coming out game like this is his uh first pure dominator type of performance he's made plays but i hope this leads to like yeah consistent he's force feeding drake london there's a reason you drafted him in the top 10 and as the first wide receiver what did he go nine or something uh i can't remember is he really that high and yeah he was top 10 um i think number eight uh this is you you see this with ej more and and the bears like the you know the first couple weeks of the season when when fields was struggling they weren't always necessarily hyper targeting more now they've just decided like he's our playmaker we have to go to him at like 30 percent of our plays when he's on the field and that's what they need to do here with drake london
Starting point is 00:31:59 they do you think he they brought in a fancy football advisor i sure hope so like somebody that like is a hardcore player and they're like, what would you do? Does Arthur have that level of self-reflection? Arthur does, man. I'm sorry that I've become an Arthur-phologist. But I'm watching. I would like to vote Jason off the show. Desperate times, Jason.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Desperate times. I do think he has self-reflection. I don't think he's a dumb guy. I really don't. He's frustrating sometimes. And early in the season when he kept, you know, just hunkering down on the like fantasy. This was a good week for Drake London, Kyle Pitts, and B. John Robinson. The big three. The big three. Did you see I started Kyle Pitts? Did you? Wow. DJ Moore, 10 targets, 6 for 68 in a touchdown, had a rushing touchdown. He's a monster with Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:32:51 They have to go to Cleveland. So your first playoff week next week will be a challenge, but in the landscape of injuries, I don't know if you're making any different moves. Cooper Cup, 8 for 115. Hey, baby. That's nice to see him back, man. I feel like heroes are rising from the ashes this week.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, some of the names were, and I feel like people, some people got stuck with Cup on their bench. Yeah, I mean, look, it makes sense. Rain, not producing. Dealing with the ankle injury. I think I had him ranked at 15. Yeah, I might have been a couple spots behind that. He was definitely a wide receiver, too,
Starting point is 00:33:29 where you could have chosen to put other people ahead of him in your lineup. But it's nice to have him do this no matter what. Next week, at home against the Manders, it should force him in your lineup. Let's talk about the Ravens' wideouts. Beckham, 10 targets. Zay Flowers, 10 targets. What was the
Starting point is 00:33:48 target total? Kyle, you can chime in if you see it for Bateman. I felt like Bateman was targeted at least a handful of times. Rashad Bateman had four targets. Okay, I lied. It seems like about too many. I think it was just the importance
Starting point is 00:34:04 of the catches. Aguilar might have had as many targets as as Bateman did but um how'd you feel about I mean obviously Lamar had one of his big games and whenever we get a big game from Lamar we'd like to project it going forward and beautifully you know happening every week it doesn't generally work that way what's your confidence level on those two wideouts I'm I am decently confident so we have three games without mark andrews all three games a flowers was very good now this last game's a flowers he took it to the limit he got late into that game before a very long like third and 17 got a touchdown really saved his fantasy point conversion yeah on the the same. We call that the octopus.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Right? Isn't that what they say now? What? Oh, when you get a touchdown and the two-point conversion? Yeah. I'm in. Okay, because it's the eight. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I find it really dumb, but I've heard the commentators talking about it. But Odell Beckham, to me, is the one I want to talk about. Did you hear Collinsworth used heater? Oh, I did. You heard it live? Yeah, I did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:07 It made me laugh. It's not like we didn't create that word. Of course not. But he did steal it from us. We overused it for a show, so now that's our word. Yeah. And he listened and said, you know, sometimes things stick. Some of our words are kind of on a heater. But Odell Beckham, to me, looked really good in this game.
Starting point is 00:35:29 He actually looked, you know, he's been dealing with his own injury. His targets are more downfield versus Zay Flowers. A lot of times his targets are more screen game, short game. Yeah, Beckham's were all Willie Mays style in this game. Over the top of his head. The adjustment on the throw to the sideline where he was looking over his inside shoulder. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Quickly readjusted because the throw was the outside. It was amazing. And the touchdown catch. Being able to hold on to that and just kind of roll into the end zone. When he's healthy. He didn't even roll. He just got up on his knees and held the ball out straight. It was great. I'm actually pretty interested in him for tomorrow's waiver show. When he's healthy. He didn't even roll. He just got up on his knees and held the ball out straight.
Starting point is 00:36:06 It was great. I'm actually pretty interested in him for tomorrow's waiver show. All right. This was a risky start of the week, so I feel very thankful that he came through. But Garrett Wilson, 14 targets, 9 for 108. 14 targets? Yeah, because duh. Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I agree completely. This was like pure. Zach Wilson, his situation is very interesting. This was his best performance in my opinion, or close to it. Yeah, the game against the Chiefs was very good too. The Chiefs game was good. This one had more throws that I liked, like total. Evading the pocket, hyper-targeting your best receiver. There was an out-of-bounds play that, yeah, receivers, I guess if you include Brees.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I do. Because he's not a running back. Sure. He's just an athlete. But he's playing with, like, there's no pressure on Zach Wilson anymore. I did just see a quote of Wilson. One of his teammates said, I have nothing to lose. What's
Starting point is 00:37:08 the worst that can happen? I get benched again? Yeah, you get made the third string and then you become... He's gone through everything bad you can go through. At this point... He will rise. You're just freewheeling. Just go. Just throw the football. Run around.
Starting point is 00:37:23 If you have something there, you're going to be a lot better for this team than Boyle and Simeon. And he was smart to target those players. 40% of his passes went to Garrett Wilson. 26% of his passes went to Brees Hall. So literally two-thirds of all of his passes just went to those two guys. That's how you do it, people. Pittman, unstoppable, 11 targets, 8 for 95 every week.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You know, if you had him, Jason. It wouldn't matter. Yeah. I mean, it would have. I would have been in the playoffs. Oh, that's a great point. You lost that one game because you didn't trade for him. Correct.
Starting point is 00:37:58 We said that our game would determine the playoffs, and it was a five-point game. And it did. And had I played Gabe Davis, I'm in. Just remember that. He takes and he takes and he takes. Rashi Rice, 7 for 72 and a touchdown. He did fumble.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You know, it's the Rice and Kelsey show because the other wide receivers are so incompetent it's embarrassing. Give me your โ€“ Yeah, let's do the two, three minute. Sure. To me, the way Mahomes and Reed reacted to what transpired was an embarrassment. I find it to be ridiculous that the level of whining and complaining that they did after that game, when Kadarius Toney basically lined up with the Buffalo Bills on that play,
Starting point is 00:38:41 especially because the Chiefs have been the recipient of so many benevolent calls over the course of the last five years that to me, their reactions came. They came across as a coach and a player that is not accustomed to anything going wrong ever for them. And like they still could have made plays to win the game after that. Like there was still a lot more that could have been done I just found the play to be ridiculous like the truth is Canary's Tony lined up egregiously off sides and just take it just accept it yeah his foot was basically where the ball was which is not where you're supposed to be um I I have seen no one on the Chiefs side, outside of Chiefs diehard fans. Everyone is like, this was the right call, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I can actually sympathize with the Chiefs here. I agree that they're whiny. I mean, they're super whiny. Afterwards, you're supposed to do the game. There's going to be consequences for their behavior. Sure, that neither one of them will care about. But the situation is one where it didn't really affect the play. There's holding on every single play.
Starting point is 00:39:56 There's holding on the offensive line or every single play. You call the egregious ones. And this wasn't egregious lining up. This was clear and obvious. He did line up in the wrong spot. That's fine that's fine but this is not he was ahead of the ball by almost a foot but it's still not a very often called thing do you know the last time the chiefs had an offensive offsides called do either of you know no 1995 yeah it's it is a very rare i'm just saying, and it didn't affect the play. It's not why the play worked.
Starting point is 00:40:25 So I get being upset where it's like, oh my gosh, really? Like the guy was, he stepped over to, and you rob a great play. It was correct. He was offside. The play was unbelievable. You throw the flag. I'm fine with that. But I'm also fine getting upset about it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 You do this miraculous play and you have something that didn't really affect it that hasn't been called since 1995. Whatever. You move on, but you're allowed to gripe. You're allowed to be like, we were robbed of a great play. My take on it was putting yourself in that position of at that point, had Mahomes
Starting point is 00:41:00 seen the tape? Had Andy Reid seen the snapshot of how bad he was off sides probably not and in that moment they felt like they had gotten jobbed by the referees and when you when you're talking to people in the heat of competition right at the very end and you feel like you got hosed you're gonna be real real mad so this is what we want. That's why there's press conferences. If you're talking to these people in the heat of the moment, then you're going to get reactions like this.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I'm guessing they woke up this morning and they're going to look at it and go, ah, crap. Probably. He was really offside. The press conference doesn't bother me. What bothered me was that Patrick Mahomes had to be held back by his teammates because he was cursing the referee out and coming running at the referee.
Starting point is 00:41:52 His on-field behavior is the stuff that's going to get the most criticism from the league because that's not acceptable no matter who you are. We don't accept it if it's anybody on any team going at a referee five plays later you know it wasn't like he was doing it right then it was like okay the the rest of our drive didn't work out and now i'm going to come at the referee i don't know
Starting point is 00:42:14 i just didn't find it becoming i think the the actual takeaway that is that is actually actionable and you can go forward and say this is how we fix fix this problem is get Katerius Tony off the field. Yeah. That dude is a boneheaded. He just makes mistakes nonstop to hurt your team. That whole wide receiver core is ruined this season for Patrick Mahomes. MBS should have won a game for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Tony should have won a game for them. Should have won probably two or three. He's dropped everything. Wide receivers line up offsides all the time, but you look over. You look over. You look over at the ref, and you give him the thumbs up. Am I good? And they go, no, you need to move back.
Starting point is 00:42:53 That's right. Did you see the replay of where he was looking? I mean, he couldn't have. I was going to say, I don't think Tony looked. Oh, he couldn't have looked. He had the back of his helmet towards that ref the entire time. So yeah, that's on the player. Yes, Andy Reid is correct that refs give warnings. They give
Starting point is 00:43:10 a warning if you ask them. Like, hey, am I offside? But if you're not going to ask, the ref's just going to be... That ref could have been doing jumping jacks and Tony would not have seen him. Yeah, I think those are all fair thoughts on the situation. Definitely fine to be upset about it. Just thought it went over thoughts on the situation. It's unfortunate. I'm going to be fine to be upset about it.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Just thought it went over the top. Sure. Evan Ingram. Goodness gracious. I was hungry for more, and I am full. 11 for 95 and two touchdowns. Evan Ingram, it just made sense, right? You're losing Christian Kirk. You're facing a pass rush.
Starting point is 00:43:41 You're in weather. This is setting up. Like, there are players right now that are emerging that were last year's stars at the end of the year. Evan Ingram was one of them. Yep, Evan Ingram. McKinnon was one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And the spot start, I know he didn't have a great game, but Zay Jones, Zay Jones finished the game with 29 total yards. Do you guys know how many targets he had? I don't, actually. 14! Yeah, okay. David Njoku. Had I played him, I would have beaten Al this week in our meaningless matchup.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Six for 91 and two touchdowns. Eight targets. Jason, you had confidence in him. And he performed. And he has got the juiciest schedule. I mentioned that when I traded for him in our League of Record at the deadline. I loved the schedule.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It was all green lights. I mean, Chicago, Houston, New York. Those are three vulnerable teams the rest of the way to the tight end. Yeah, great options for tight ends. And Joe Flacco was named the starter for the rest of the season. Which is such the right call. It is great options for tight ends and joe flacco was named the starter for the rest of the season which is such the right call it is great news for david nojoku and amari cooper both did you see amari cooper's targets he had a yeah he i mean it's you've got a
Starting point is 00:44:55 competent quarterback i want to i want to see that number again i thought it was, yeah, 14 targets. The most Amari Cooper has had on the year by three. So Joe Flacco had over 300 passing yards. Just want to make sure I'm looking here. Sean Watson has never had 300 yards as a Brown. No, I mean, we did say, like, there's a chance this is the best situation for this team, better than Watson. Because he can throw it. He he can throw the football and he's he's looked okay you know what's crazy which is what that team late Carson Palmer ish to me like
Starting point is 00:45:33 all right not mobile plucker looks a little bit bigger than he used to look what but what he can sling it what blows me away is there were three plays that I can remember from this game where the pocket started collapsing and he rolled out. He ran and on the move made a great pass. I don't feel like I've seen Flacco do that in nine years. As long as it's right. Right. Yeah, that's fair. It was to the right every time.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Isaiah Likely, Hunter Henry, George Kittle, Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts played the most snaps, had the highest snap percentage, the most routes run on the team. Nice. Three catches, but 57 yards on a touchdown. Yeah, it was nice to see. All right, that's it for the studs. Thanks to NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV
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Starting point is 00:46:35 Terms and embargoes apply. No cancellations. Pooped in his big boy pants. There were a lot. There's doo-doo everywhere. So let's not be like over-emphasizing the negative. Let's just talk about players we think have long-term issues on their hands. And so, you know, Jalen Hurts is at the top of the list.
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's been no long-term issue here. No. No passing, no rushing touchdowns. That's crazy. I mean, it seemed impossible for Jalen Hurts to have this happen. They scored no offensive touchdowns, right? Correct. Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Shoo. Here we are again. Now, Patrick Mahomes is worth worrying worrying about but we've been worried about him since like week four so i think this is just this the same old same old um 14 fantasy points a game since week eight well just look at what the chiefs are scoring okay they scored 17 points this week they scored 19 points last week 31 okay weeks ago that's great that you know and he was okay the week prior 17 the week prior 21 the week prior 9 I mean there this isn't a team that's putting up 30 plus points regularly hardly at all and so their defense is good and a lot of those games have still been
Starting point is 00:48:01 wins so this is this is absolutely a concern when you don't have the wide receiver core that can aid you, and Travis Kelsey is looking 10% slower than he did last year, this is what you're going to get. You're going to get quarterback eight type of performances, which is okay, but not great. How would that play have been scored? I wondered the same thing. I don't think anyone gets a passing touchdown.
Starting point is 00:48:25 No, it becomes a rushing touchdown, I believe. Yeah, so you get passing yardage to Kelsey. Yes. And then rushing totals for Tony? Correct. I think that's it. And nothing for Kelsey for the pitch. Correct.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And nothing for Mahomes for the pass. Correct. Well, yeah, he has the completion and gets the Kelsey. Right, but not a passing touchdown. No. Interesting. Oh, my goodness gracious. Give the floor to Mike. Jared Goffel.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Dude, Jared Goff was awful. Amon Ross, St. Brown, that was another one of those, how is this possible? How is that player having such a bad game? But that was an embarrassing performance against a division rival
Starting point is 00:49:06 and i mean i want to ask you guys who what is this team what like you know i mean like are they are they really a contender because they keep on certain weeks they have been. I think their defense has really gone downhill. And this is a team that I believe is much better to play from a lead on offense when they can bully you with the offensive line, play more David Montgomery ball. Like this was a Jameer Gibbs, we're coming from behind type of offense. Giving up 26 or more points in five straight weeks. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And that's not how their offense is built. So when their defense is sucking, their offense is worse, not better. I expected them to get it going. I mean, they did this exact game script against Chicago a few weeks ago, came back and won the game, and they just never got it going. No Laporta, no Amon Ra. Yeah. No home crowd this time around right right to to carry
Starting point is 00:50:08 them on to victory but this was easily the worst game of Amon Ra for ever my 21 yards nasty drops but it just another quarterback with questions moving forward because you can't it's not guaranteed Mike and I once again I mean we threw the shade on Zach Moss Jason he loves him my dude man I can't believe that he's looking like he's not a great running back he's been garbage for two weeks Jason we know what happened the PEDs ran out man we do know what happened
Starting point is 00:50:35 what if it's necessary for Zach Moss maybe he needs you to not believe in him yeah then I am all in is that his super power it's like the reverse Tinkerbell situation then i am all in is that his superpower it's like the reverse um tinkerbell situation then i am right yeah yeah then i am not worried about my dude zach moss oh you're trying to kill him he's gonna be great the rest of the season make sure he's in your lineup he's so good man contact balance soft hand i don't think people agree with you oh man such a shame deandre swift miserable performance for deandre i mean
Starting point is 00:51:06 pretty disappointing for most eagles miserable for keaton mitchell and gus edwards because all the scoring was through the air this was the inverse of why like gus was scoring on a regular basis and that's why lamar wasn't doing well 100 it just flipped the other direction mitchell also had you know more snaps than g Buss. Justice Hill is still funny because when you care about Captain Justice Hill. I believe it. When you care about fantasy football and you're a
Starting point is 00:51:33 box score watcher, you think Justice Hill's not really involved because he's not doing anything. Because he's not involved. But he's super involved. Like he's... I mean being on the field. That's what I mean. This is not... It's it seems like oh this is a two-way timeshare between keaton mitchell gus edwards no no no no the leader is is just this week he was he was on the field for 42 of the snaps and he saw two targets exactly that was his only opportunities he's just he's
Starting point is 00:52:03 there he's just there to ruin he's pumping ruin pumping up the offense wide receiver duds on monroe we talked about it i think you shake it off he does have to play denver minnesota dallas it's not the way denver and minnesota's defenses are playing right now and then dallas is a great defense you know you just keep playing them but those are not home run situations i was going to bring that schedule up for golf because golf to me is someone that I'm fine if you want to move on from with that upcoming schedule. I don't want to hold on to Jared Goff and have him ruin my playoffs.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah, I mean Stafford could be in consideration there. What about Joe Flacco or Jake Browning? Not Browning. Not Flacco. Okay. We sure? I'm going to have to look at the schedule mike evans had six targets just one catch oh man don't worry about this one the targets were there
Starting point is 00:52:54 he also caught a touchdown pass he just put his hand down a millisecond i mean it was it was yeah i guess that would be milliseconds um Just before he's a second foot. Such a good catch. He'll be fine, and they're fighting for a playoff spot. They're in right now, right? I believe they're leading the division. Six and seven, six and seven, six and seven, one and whatever. Put those teams in order.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Who's the actual best teams in your mind between the three, six and seven? Falcons, Saints, and then Tampa Bay. i would go tampa bay falcons saints which i believe is how the actual division breakdown is that's right you don't think the saints are the best team no i think they're the worst of the three okay jamar chase three for 29 on four targets yeah i mean there's nothing you could we've seen this with garrett wilson he's you're not gonna have guaranteed great games always when you've got a backup quarterback but well it's it's the four targets is so this is a story guys this is the kind of story that has a man leaving town in the offseason in my opinion stefan digs 11 targets four for 24 had a couple drops first nine weeks normal stefan diggs eight catches a game 93 yards awesome from week 10 on which is a long run now
Starting point is 00:54:14 four receptions and 39 yards a game i don't think stefan diggs plays for the buildings here three of the last four games he has not hit five fantasy points in half ppr that is absolutely insane now you got 11 targets you had sneed on you and that is a great matchup i believe he uh he played the majority of snaps on digs and i want to say he gave up three total yards to him like he shut him down but he's been doing that to everyone, all these great wide receivers. So, it feels like a trend. Dallas next week. Oh, man. I mean, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:54:51 You're not going to bench. They're at home, and you're going to play. We know what we do. Play Gabe Davis. The Goose King, Gabe Davis. 48 โ€“ or 42 routes run. Zero for zero for zero. Not even a target.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Oh, no, wait. Two targets. No, two targets, yeah. All right. Nice. Noel Brown did nothing. This is two Gooses in a row. zero for zero for zero not even a target oh no wait two targets yeah all right nice noah brown did nothing this is two gooses in a row uh noah you shouldn't start him just missed on really you don't you don't want to start noah brown next week are you guys being serious yeah being very serious noah brown last week was just back from injury, Goose. This week, in the rain, against the Jets, with, you know, obviously Stroud got injured at one point.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I guess if Stroud's out. Yeah, I mean, regardless, I mean, if you have no catches in two weeks where you play a bunch of snaps, I think it's very fair-minded to question whether you should start that player. Noah Brown is not the kind of player that can take advantage of a defense without help. Nico Collins and Tank Dell opened up the defense to allow Noah Brown to take advantage. If he has to be the guy, I don't have a trust in Noah Brown after two gooses. I think it would be a very risky play to put him out there. So that's my perspective on him. It's fair. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:56:03 it makes sense.'s it's very fair-minded what you're saying but the this is an nfl franchise that is going to have to throw the ball and if i look at the the options we don't know if schultz will be back so it's robert woods or noah brown and you go okay well robert woods maybe he's more reliable a veteran he can get it done this is all assuming uh that stroud plays because i'm not playing them with a backup there. However, Robert Woods goosed two weeks ago, just like everybody did other than Nico Collins. And against the Jets, I don't know what's better,
Starting point is 00:56:35 to goose or to have negative two yards. So, you know, you win some, lose some on the Robert Woods versus Noah Brown. Brandon Cooks, two for 37, big disappointment. Josh Downs, three for 32. It happened real quick, and then it was over. Calvin Ridley, 13 targets, four for 53. You got to keep playing 13 targets.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Lawrence was, I think he ended up with a good fantasy day, but he was not very good. He had an okay fantasy day. And it was, you know. He had a couple of touches to go. Late, late, late touchdown. Garbage time saved him. And three interceptions.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I mean, Lawrence looked bad. Three interceptions, 56% completion rate. Basically, if he wasn't targeting Evan Ingram. Yeah, Cleveland was all over. Yeah, 27 targets between Calvin Ridley and Zay Jones. Three picks. And they ended up with nothing. completion rate basically if he wasn't targeting evan ingram yeah cleveland was all over yeah 27 targets between calvin ridley and zay jones three picks they ended up with nothing addison two for 27 addison i mean he's got no hope right now yeah he's got a big quarterback problem holy crap that i don't know how many people listening to the show watched any amount of that Raiders-Vikings game.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Goodness gracious, that was awful. It was not a defensive struggle. It was ineptitude on both sides of the ball. If you're not familiar, if you you are unaware you know we talked about this was a three nothing victory that three points came at the very end this looked like this looked like it was headed to a zero zero overtime which has literally never happened sam laporta very disappointing game because jared goff was awful dal Dalton Kincaid, 5 for 21. Okay, that's the question. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:58:26 Oh, I'm moving on to Najoku the rest of the season in my situation. Let's say with Dawson Knox back. He was out there a lot. Kincaid was out there. He had some downfield shots. I was watching closely. But you know what else I was watching? The snaps where he wasn't on the field.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And there were times when you'd see 88 out there instead of 86. I'm fine playing Kincaid because your options like if you don't have no joku what are you gonna do go play likely uh matchup dependent tie matchup dependent tie for those two yeah i i would say so no joku looks like he's just too involved the matchups we know are all good going forward so i would agree there but I am not moving off of Kincaid. I was actually really impressed that he was out there so much. You look at the last two weeks without Dawson Knox. He played 67% and 61% of snaps. This week with Dawson Knox, he was up at 78% of snaps.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It was a bad game all around. Obviously, Kansas City's defense kind ofโ€” Let the team and routes run, so Jason's probably right there. I mean, Dawson Knox, what, 36 snaps. He ran 17 routes. I mean, that's returning from injury. That number is going to go up. Sure, but I'm not out on Kincaid unless I've got someone like Najoku.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Then it's a clear pivot. Okay. And the Muth, not Luth. No. Dallas Goddard, I don't have a stat line here in front of me. But it wasn't. But I have his name. I mean, so here's what happened with โ€“ here's front of me. But it wasn't. But I have his name.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I mean, so here's what happened with the Eagles. What do you do, Kyle? I'll pull it up. If you didn't watch the Eagles, you had a drive that was ended. Four for 30. You had a drive that was ended prematurely by a Jalen Hurts fumble. Then later you had a drive that looked good that was ended prematurely by an A.J. Brown fumble. Then you had, a little bit later, a drive that looked good that was ended prematurely by an A.J. Brown fumble. Then you had a little bit later a drive that looked like it was finally happening and it
Starting point is 01:00:10 was ended by a Devontae Smith fumble. They didn't ever score or have any fantasy relevance because they kept dropping the ball. And to be fair, it wasn't like this was great defense. Those punches were world-class. I mean, this is heavyweight boxing from Dallas. All right. Waver Wire show tomorrow. A reminder, head to FootClanGiveaway.com if you want a chance to sign Travis' ETN jersey in the swag pack. That'll do it for today's episode of the show. Thank you for joining us.
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