Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 15 Studs & Duds + Illusionists, TD Controversy - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/15

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Dec 15, 2025. Week 15 fantasy football playoff recap! Full breakdown of the best and worst performances of the weekend. Which duds should be benched for the rest of the fantasy football playoffs? Plus, NFL News, injury updates, and Monday Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(12:20) Monday Punday(14:20) NFL News(31:55) Fantasy Studmuffins(32:00) QB Studs(36:25) RB Studs(42:00) WR Studs(49:30) TE Studs(52:43) Fantasy Duds(52:51) QB Duds(54:25) RB Duds(59:00) WR Duds(01:04:15) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Monday, December 15th, the fantasy footballers podcast, back with you. Oh, me, oh my. Fantasy playoffs are here. Week one nearly over and, um, okay. All right. Oh, man. What a week.

Some good, some bad. um goodness well when kyle pitt starts the week that way you know you're going to get some insanity over the course of the weekend um i think everything jason wanted to happen happened to him he had Travis etin and josh jacobs go crazy he had his opponent's score no points thank you jemere gibbs you uh you continued your streak of up down up down up down um yeah no it's uh It was a good week for me. Not for everybody. No.

This was... Not for the people that played Joe Burrow or the people that played Isaiah likely or... Holy crap. You know, I read something this morning with Isaiah likely, by the way. What was that? I thought you were reacting to likely. Likely had... No, no, like...

Just hold on before we move on. Speaking of Jason being the Magic Man. So League of Record, you look very, very good. Yes. It's like Devon A-chan has to go... He has to get 42 points. Oh, he doesn't know this news. He's down by two points in...

No, Dynasty League, he's up by two points. Right. The other, the team he's facing has one player. Yes. He's toast. It's Jalen Warren. Yeah, Jalen Warren basically has to get injured pregame. Jalen Warren is now questionable.

What? What? Well, I made a joke yesterday that like... That's not a good joke. ...that's my only chance. He needs like one point and I lose. Like, I'm already out. Perchable with an illness.

Oh, it's going to be bad. Probably still play. but just Oh my goodness Give me a little hope If we want to Yeah so I wanted to circle back to likely

Yes Isaiah likely I read this morning He ran more routes than Mark Andrews For the first time since week eight So he was out there Like this is

This is kind of Like people need to come to terms with this I think it's important for fantasy football Like fantasy football is a game of skill and luck combined. Yes. Into a game of probability.

Into an algorithm that we cannot, until we can see the future, you know, you're just going to be in this boat where the best matchup and the best players can have a bad week. You know, we thought Baltimore, Cincinnati would be a competitive high-scoring game. The Bengals got shut out.

That game was by far the biggest disappointment all the way around. I mean, Joe Burrow was bet. Lamar Jackson threw 12 passes. That, I mean, so 12 total passes. likely ended up with no targets. Andrews had a bad game, too. You, in that, in that dynasty league where I need Jalen Warren to score one point, I chose to start likely over Andrews, who I would have started over Kyle Pitts. So, I mean, I had two guys score 40 on my bench. Yeah, if you had 40,

you'd be up by more. I would, yeah, I would be on. No, I mean, it, Kyle Pitts is another example. Kyle Pitt's previous career high and fantasy points was like 25 points and this was 45 in a lot of league formats like in the same 20 more points than your career high. So all I'm saying is you've got to come to terms with the fact that you're playing the game of probability. You put people

in the best position to play. They play the game. That was the most shocking results. Honestly, for me. This weekend was insane. The NFL weekends are usually insane. This one felt a little crazier with some injuries. The injuries which we will talk about, but the

Bengals, or I'm sorry, the Ravens tight ends doing nothing against the Bengals in a game that was a 50-something point over under was the most shocking result and probably the most devastating. I mean, I guess it's actually Burrow on top of that too. Like Burrow,

well, I loved Burrow. I would have played Burrow over almost every quarterback this weekend and it was devastating. And now feels it feels a little scary with Burrow moving forward actually to me because you know a little bit of the heby-jeebies yeah you're playing for nothing at this point right what if you if you won this week you had a small chance now you're playing for nothing and the dude's not in the right headspace I think right now with how tough the year has been the comments not just the press conference

but from Jamar Chase this after the game and you know it does make you wonder if this season is just it's going to be tough to get up for the rest of the games for Cincinnati. But, you know, we always, we always joke about this. Like one of my prize picks projections that I missed is that I took, I took Josh Allen over 20.5 completions. He had 20. And so we all sit back and we go, Vegas is unbelievable, right? The bookmakers.

And then you see a game like Cincinnati and you see, and Baltimore, and we forget how wrong they are about. that game. That game was completely wrong. Half the points. Less than half the points scored than they project. So the good news about all of the craziness that can happen and all the unpredictability is that if you are in the playoffs and you're an underdog, you're fine. You got a shot. I mean, we've we've said this in the past and it is, it's not entirely true. Make it to the playoffs. But it is, you know, there's truth to this phrase that we have said many times. I don't think we've set it on the show much, but we've set it off air a lot, which is like, it's a lot of lead up to

this. I really want to know what it is. It takes skill to make the playoffs. Oh, yes. And it takes luck to win a championship. Like, you know what I mean? Like, long enough season, the skill's going to get you there. You got to get to the playoffs. But then you got to have some luck in the playoffs. You just have to. Did you mail a package to Jalen Warren? Oh, whoa. Whoa. He's got an illness. Well, sure. I don't know. I thought you were not a bomb. Yeah, a little, you know, some danger in the mail. I meant like a petri dish. I mean, did you send him a petri dish? I did not. This is pure luck. Um, you know, he's wrapped in some smallpox blankets and that's, oh, oh gosh. We do not condone

bio-orphan. No. Never have, never will. No, not publicly. By the way, another crazy thing that happened this weekend for those that, and I was catching everybody up in the office about this last night, but there's a bunch of controversy going on on all platforms about Woody Marks's rushing touchdown because what happened on the play against Arizona, Arizona was well on their way to giving up their weekly 40. And they snapped the ball and went through the legs of C.J. Stroud. It touched the ground while Woody Marks picked up the ball. And then he kind of just torpedoed into the end zone. It's basically a ball. It's basically a ball. wildcat run because the ball went to the ground and then he picked it up directly rushed it in

probably about five yards out and and it was it looked like when i watched it live i didn't tell i couldn't tell that the ball hit the ground it looked like a direct snap to him that he caught low and then rushed it in wildcat touchdown awesome play so so what ends up happening is no platforms are counting that as a rushing touchdown nonsense CBS yahoo NFL ESPN as far as i last knew i don't know about sleeper but those four i've seen reports on this and so what happens is in most leagues. Like if we've had Tramey Bride score. Fumble recovery touchdowns are just on.

On a lot of leagues they are. But I think what happens is on like the and CBS on the commissioner leagues some of the default league scoring formats just simply don't have that as something that counts. It's a rushing touchdown that you get points for. It's not any touchdown.

At least to the point where there was a ground swell all over Twitter. It was wild. Over multiple leagues where this is the case. And so, you know, Most leagues are probably when you're setting that up your default league. You're really not thinking about changing that as a default format. If anything, it should be defaulted on and you have to choose to be like, that shouldn't count.

But also, I think it's utter nonsense to count this as a as a fumble recovery touchdown. Like what Trey McBride did, you know, last year. Diving on a football. Someone fumbled it into the end zone and he dove on it. That's a fumble recovery touchdown. Okay, whatever. He wasn't part of the play. he just recovered the touch on.

This was like, this was basically a wildcat snap where he rushed the ball in. And I was thinking about this. If, because we see this every game. A ball touches the ground for the quarterback on the snap. He picks it up. He throws it. He completes the pass and the play happens. Are you telling me that that doesn't count?

That's a fumble recovery pass. No, it's a freaking football play. It's utter nonsense. And I think every platform should. And I get that. Every platform should. by hand auto correct that into a rushing

are you telling that to the commissioners I'm telling that to the platforms but on a commissioner basis that's tougher it's got to come from the platform it has to because it probably affect a commissioner can't unless the I wonder if there'll be an official scoring change it's nonsense I

give all commissioners the right to go and change that right now as long as they're not involved in the matchup fair yeah if they're involved in the matchup then it's unless it causes them a loss i don't think so i think that it's just everyone should go commissioner that's actually yeah you should it's the right what's right is right even if if you're a commissioner and it gives you the win so be it it's the right no i i don't think al's on the same page here and i'm not on the same page either if you're the commissioner and this

gives you a win you can't just you can't just go do that but if you want to wait in if your league scoring settings say that you don't get points for a fumble recovery touchdown You nerds. And that snap hit the ground. Well, technically. If that snap hit the ground and fumbled, then. Yeah, I mean, you have to go with the official score. I, this is why I defaults at the same platforms need to override this.

I agree with you on that. If the platforms do it, then that's fine. It's out of the commissioner's hand. Mike, if you and Jason were in a battle and you're down by five, Jason will have a different opinion right now. No, I would have the, I promise you. Well, you would have it because you'd be getting the win. No, no, no. If I were going to lose from this, I would have the exact same.

same opinion. Well, you, yes, you would. Because I think that's ridiculous to not change that. And give a man, he scored a touchdown. He got the snap. Give him six points. He rushed for those yards and got the touchdown. He technically recovered a fumbled. Does he get rushing yards? I don't know.

I'm pretty sure. I'm sure you probably do. He gets yards of some kind. How would you not get a touchdown? We're not debating what it should be. It's just the official scoring report. Like, I think it's just really odd if a commissioner would change it, arbitrary. to give themselves a win.

That's insane. At the very least, every league. I'm giving everyone permission to do it. Yeah, thank you, Mike. I think at the very least, every league should have a vote. If the majority says yes, of course, that should be a touchdown, then you change it in your league,

because it should be. That's unfortunate. Did it score in our league? Did we look at that? I'm just curious. I'm sure it did. Well, we allowed touchdowns for recovered funnels. Oh, good.

So we have Monday-Punday reaction. I'm sure we're going to hear a lot about that debate in a minute in the Twitter sphere, and on YouTube. But we have your reactions to the weekend on Monday Punday because, of course, we do. Starting with a wonderful, amazing performance by Clever Lawrence. Oh, he was so good.

How about T. McBemy bride? He's going to break the record. Yeah. We got Travis E.T.N. Zone. Oh, Jason. So happy. OMG St. Brown. Oh, to infinity. Yeah.

And Trevion. Yeah. Oh, jolly old St. Nick's. People had the courage? Yeah. People played him. Tile Trips. Nice.

Tile trips. Jameson Mega Millions. He's still playing well. Now we're into the bad. We got the bad. We do have a comment from Andrew who says Jason knows me 200 bucks because he says Jason Jefferson. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Twitter. Isaiah likely ended my season. Yeah. Yeah.

Namir Gibbs. Jamir Phibs. Thank you, my man. I really enjoy Ashton Shanty. Yeah, that's good. Or no burrow. I like this one. Quinshawn Buckkins. Tedero-Mcvillan.

Bad McConkey. And deck depressed, Scott. Yeah. That is, I would have been really upset if everything else didn't go my way because these games that have happened for Dak Prescott where he plays well that he has enough yards he moves the ball and then they just every touchdown is a rushing touchdown he played okay sure I mean it wasn't like he

went well it was crazy as I saw somebody had heads up last night Brandon Aubrey versus Dak Prescott they had Dak they lost wow you imagine you're going into the game Dack versus a kicker. And Aubrey, ironically, lost them the game. By missing two kicks? Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Crazy weekend.

You can submit your Monday Pondays on Instagram at Fantasy Footballers on X at the FF Ballers. Every Sunday night, you can post those to us. And we'll talk some news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Yeah, that's a good point, Al. just audit your league settings

in the offseason because I think Sleeper is the one that avoided this issue I think Sleeper is the one that has defaults it on. It defaults, fumble recovery touchdowns is on and so you know if those other platforms I think they're in a bind I think those other platforms are in an impossible

position because I don't think you can make a scoring change that the NFL doesn't make. I don't think that Yahoo can just say well the NFL scores at this but we're going to score it this for the sake of your playoffs. I think they're all in a pickle. So I think I think you can have a league vote. Yes.

And the league vote says, hey, reasonableness is what's going to win out here in our league. I think reasonableness is one of the tenets of a fantasy football league that we all abide by. One of the tenets of humanity. Or should be. It should be. Yeah. And so, I mean, I think if you know, if it's me,

if I'm the commissioner, whether it benefits me or not, I would just say, hey, guys, let's not let the season end with something ridiculous where the guy's not rewarded for a play that was a football play where he went into the end zone and scored. Yeah, I mean, he got the snap, he rushed it forward, he scored a touchdown, got the points for the Texas.

It's listed in the skate. You want to read that like? Yeah, so I went and looked, pro football reference, which, I mean, shout it to them, great website, a lot of good stats and everything. It is, they have it listed as a C.J. Stroud aborted snap, recovered by Woody Marks at the Arizona 7th, returned one yard touchdown. Oh, it was only a yard out. Yep, well, that's where CJ was.

Yeah, the run ended up being five, six yards. but, yeah, I don't think we were accounting on the aborted snap scenario. That's so weird. That's so weird. Hey, the Jets fired Steve Wilkes. Whoa. Problem solved. Wait a minute.

Arizona Cardinals, are you aware that you can do things like this? Oh, wait. No, they did. Real quick. Yeah, I'm just saying the Cardinals should fire junk in. And I just want to make sure they. I thought you were making a joke because the Cardinals already fired Steve Wilkes before. They did do that once upon a time, but I just said,

mean in season right now you can do this the jets have zero interceptions on the season and i guess they're disappointed that steve oakes couldn't get enough out of um sauce gardner and quinnon williams he's he's the problem they gave up 48 points and he's the problem okay he seemed to do really well with nice personnel in carolina before i remember that and denver and anywhere he's had good personnel. It's just, yeah, okay. But Brady Cook couldn't get the win, so let's fire Steve Wilkes. I'll tell you what you suck, Jets. You suck, Jets, you suck. Raiders, you suck. I don't know if we need a you suck list with all caps, but those three teams are on it. I'll tell you what you should not do. If you are a high level cornerback coach, an awesome linebacker coach, the new

hotness, you should not accept this job to be the defensive coordinator for the Jets. because you will not do well. Not to mention you may go out with the bathwater, right? If they fire their head coach after one year. That's, it's always tough, man. You had the... You want to do this? No, I'm good where I'm at. We had the year of both

Ben Johnson and Bobby Slowick. We're like, nope, we're not taking the jobs. We're going to stay where we are one more year. Ben Johnson, it becomes a smashing success. He gets the job he wants. The other guy, is Kyle, is he in the league?

Is he doing anything? I believe he's in the mailroom. I'll check in with Bobby. Yeah, you check in with Bobby. Devon A. Chan, off the injury report, and good to go. If he scores over 41 points, Jason will be set. Which he did two weeks ago. Bobby Sloak is the senior passing game coordinator for the dolphins.

Does that mean he's the old one? That means that's called a demotion. Yeah. Devon A. Chan, off the injury report, ready to go. Patrick Mahomes. I mean, we are. It's endless news. to talk about. They were on

the cusp of being eliminated from the playoffs in which they ended up being eliminated. Goodness gracious, Gardner Minchu made sure of that. It's Minchu time. But Patrick Mahomes out for the year with the torn ACL. The parallels to Brady's torn ACL are wild. I don't know if you've seen that.

No. What? Same season. After three titles. It wasn't Brady's game one? Yes. I know it was. I traded everything for him and he ruined my season. Yeah, they're different people. boy, it's not exactly the same. It's just the same

exact season in the NFL. After the same amount of titles, after the same situation in the Super Bowl, it was just pretty interesting. It was the most insult to injury situation that I can remember where it's like as a Chiefs fan nobody wants Mahomes to miss time.

No, no, no, nobody. Even anti- Chiefs people. NFL fans don't want Mahomes hurt. No, you want, like I was rooting for them to not make the playoffs only because, you know, watch the world burn. It would not root for this and it's like oh dude they already lost they already were going to miss the playoffs

you didn't need to do this world Brady Mahomes Manning has have been in every single playoff since 98 those three so this will be the first time since 98 no Brady no Manning no Mahomes um

AFC's wide open Buffalo go do it I am telling you to do it this is your time yeah what a crazy game that was i was hiding under the bed after the first oh yeah you called for the patriots no no no i'm not they killed them in the second half i'm not victory lapping that as a because i said i thought they'd kill them yeah but at 21 nothing i thought i might not have a job anymore i was like what is going on this year i can't see nothing i tell

you who else thought it was over all of twitter oh my gosh oh yeah everybody dunkin just victory lap. I got done nothing. There's two halves of football, everyone. Just hold your comments. Hold your comments for one more half. Oh, yeah, I was playing against Josh Allen, and we knew. We knew in the first quarter while he's getting shut down.

I'm like, this isn't, like, I'm not going to be happy about this yet. We know it's going to happen. And we are all guilty of it, but the human impulse to just post as soon as humanly possible. Like if there's something, like a Christmas season, something I want to put, If somebody's getting coal, they're getting call for the, when we get the first quarter, you guys are morons about this guy. We're like, okay, maybe, maybe we are. But please let the other three quarters go and then you can dunk on us.

Also, the Patriots absolutely should have won that game. I don't mean. They fell apart. No, no, no. Oh, I'm not blaming the Patriots. That was an interception that they caught. What were you talking about? The interception.

The PI. The defensive pass and interference it was called. They don't count the interceptions after pass interference call. He got his head around, looked at the ball, made a play on the ball, caught the ball, intercepted the ball, and got called for offensive pass interference. And what's crazy is... No, defensive. Earlier in the game, Trudevius White did almost the exact same play,

where you could have called a pass interference, but he intercepted the ball for the bills. Not called. I didn't have a horse in the race. I don't care who wins. I wasn't rooting for either. It is a brutal pass interference. It is an awesome interception. You are completely wrong.

I disagree with you. You were totally. Correct. Biased against Josh Allen scoring in that situation. Well, that's true. I have a screenshot in front of me. He's staring directly at the receiver with both hands on him. Has he already looked?

Yes, he already looked before he got. You don't get to look and then make contact. That's insane. If you look, yes, you do. You can make a play on the ball and intercept it. It's illegal. It's an illegal. play. That one happens all the time. If you look for the ball and then you end up running into

the player, you are often given the benefit of the doubt. You can't look at the ball turn and then push the guy. You can't do that. Go look up the statute for pass interference. It's crazy. I'm just saying watch both of those plays and there's a lot of similarities. One was called the pass interference. One was a given interception. The same game should call it same way. Also, they should have played better in the second half. Yeah, we'll take a break. We'll talk some more news. Devante Adams this sucks oh man goodbye fantasy playoffs

Devante Adams will not be a part of it he left early with a hamstring injury Big Vey already said it didn't look good he was running in a straight line and then he went down yeah the ball was thrown and you're like oh this is I think he's gonna get oh he stopped running he's hurt he is

and then he was he just laid there face down knowing like when you when you have that reaction he laid face down like he was deceased for 30 seconds, 60 seconds. He's bringing it back. Or he was blinking on no points. It's a weird time to do a meme, but.

Yeah, it's going to be like, I think at this point, Rams fans are very hopeful that he is there for the NFL playoffs. Yes. If you have him in your, it has to be. Our champ, champ, champ, dino junior league, we've been riding on the back of a lot of Adams touchdowns. We will have to pivot. All right, what else do we have?

Roman Dunes, a three minutes before kickoff was ruled out this game after they said he was going to play. All three of us tweeted it out as quick as we could. It was like three minutes before. Yeah. And I had some responses to my tweet that people saw it just a little bit late and that that made the difference between them making

the playoffs and not, or going to the next round. Yeah, it was that one's brutal. What a pump fake. That's terrible. We had Christian Watson. This was scary. Got better news about it. The Packers went through a run of injuries in this game that I mean you you already have

the terrible horrible awful news Michael Parsons is torn ACL yeah was that confirmed yeah well no it hasn't been confirmed with an MRI but you I mean usually they know okay it's been conformed with MRIs oh nice yeah I mean like every doctor under the sun

and Mike and LaFleur's comments in the post game non-contact I mean we yeah you see a shin pop that's a former Christian Watson left the shoulder injury, chest injury. There was some concern about clavicle. It's not clavicle. It's a sprained SC joint. Similar to what Tyree Kill had a few years

ago, so not a major injury was the quote we got. That is very good news for this team moving into the playoffs. It's not great for maybe next week. RJ Harvey, I didn't know this, left early with a rib injury. That's he didn't have a great game. Woody Marks left the Texans game

after his fumble recovery. That's all he wanted to do. Yeah, well, he's like, I got the touchdown for fantasy managers they'll be happy i know and then it's like no he didn't uh it's good news that they said he could have come back in the game which is devastating news for those of you who played yeah demico ryan's that's kind of just you're just salting the wound there because woody marks would have dominated oh the backups dominated what is it jordan someone blame the cardinals for getting up 40 points and making what he was needed great start of the week who unfortunately did score, might not have scored for you, and could have played, but didn't play because

they didn't need him anymore. The, I mean, moments after I said Devin Neal was what Kendrae Miller couldn't be, because Kendry Miller would have been killing in this situation for the Saints. Devin Neal left with a hamstring injury, just like Kendrae Miller would have. And then Devon Vele also left early, which Evan Hull and Adric Estime are the running backs who are currently left for the Saints. They keep competing. Did you see the comments from Chase Young about Tyler Shuck?

Oh, dude, Tyler Shuck was a I mean, he laid it all out. He'd sacrificed his body to give that win. That was awesome. What an idiotic play on the defense. It's insane. Like, you basically, there's one

thing you can't do. Hit the sliding quarterback. Hit the sliding quarterback. If you don't do that, you're going to win. Yeah. 24 for 32. three hundred and four yards one touchdown he had already clutch performances and then chase young i mean he came out and he said tyler shuck he's like he's starting to look like that guy yeah because he had gotten banged up earlier in the game like he was he was hurting and he played through and then i mean saves the day with with allowing a defender to just crush him on the ground that then

turns into the field goal uh they're also they're i'm liking what i'm seeing from from show i am too i mean And I said that from that first game where they got blown out by the Rams. And I went back and I watched. I was like, he was good. He played well. They're three and three in his six starts. With a dropped a lobby touchdown that would have put him in four and two. Yeah.

And would have helped the Cardinals draft pick. Well, and thankfully, this win helped the Cardinals draft pick. And it helped Tyler Shuck have a job. It helped him have a job because this probably, I mean, they're at four wins now. So they're almost, they're definitely not going to mean like the top five or six picks. and they could win another game or two down the stretch with Shuck, and then they'll be outside of where you have to draft a quarterback. Yeah, I think he's playing himself into a starting job for the future,

which is, that's fun. That's cool. Yeah. It's good. They're right now picking seventh. So Saints, Washington, and Cincinnati are all tied at four wins. Bayshall, too, and left with a finger injury. Is that, was that you, Jason?

I just gave him a good handshake. What are you talking about? Dude, Travis E.T.N. Has been dominating. Like the last month, it's been crazyness. I mean, these were, what Trevor Lawrence was five passing touchdowns and a rushing touchdown? Yeah.

That's insane. Yeah, my prize picks was one and a half passing touchdowns for Trevor Lawrence. I think I got that in like the first five minutes. Four and a half you should have taken the over. Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize this. looking at Travis E.T.

Yes. Since the by week, which was a while ago, it was right in the middle of the season. He had one bad week against Tennessee, and he has been a top 12 back every single week. Yeah, I mean, they're, like, without overstating it and without failing to acknowledge that Trevor Lawrence can be Jekyll and Hyde, they look like a contender to me. Yeah?

You have a defense that is strong. You have an offense that once they had a Jacoby-Myers, and now they got Brian Thomas Jr. back. They seem formidable. Mm-hmm. And Trevor... Something's different. Something is different with Trevor Lawrence right now.

Liam Cohen is near the Gus Bradley level of wins for that franchise already. He is Trevor Lawrence and Kyler Murray. I put those guys... I synced them together so much in my mind at the beginning of the season, even before the season, where it's like these are above-average quarterbacks who can play in the NFL, but they're so inconsistent and sometimes disappear. Oh, get ready, though. Well, right.

I mean, it could happen, but really. Denver next week. Recently, it's very impressive. Lawrence is, I think the biggest thing he has been bad at is consistency and he's been consistent. So, yeah, I mean, the test is coming this week in Denver. I just want to remind you, Jason, as we are likely to face off in the League of Record semis, that Travis E.m will be on the road against Denver and Bijon Robinson.

We'll be playing Arizona. Next, moving on. I was aware of that. Hey, can you remind me who Josh Jacobs played this last week and where he played? Okay. Was it in Denver? That starts. Against Denver?

Here we go. Here we go. Travis H.T. He's scared? Yeah, he is. I'm scared. He's not scared. He's a man. I'm a coward.

That was news and notes. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Cousalty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers, not available in all states of situations coverage subject policy terms limits and conditions is it going to be safe to be in the studio next week no if you two are facing off no you're gonna we're gonna need to switch seats can't be next to this guy have you ever faced off with each other in the semis i don't know no i don't think so to go to the title no i don't think so yeah so is that the way it looks seating wise that you guys are yeah it could it could flip um to where i play josh

but are you going to play each other in the dynasty league too? No, he lost. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If somehow Jalen Warren doesn't get a point, doesn't and. Does he have a backup? I got to go low. This Jalen Warren. Don't tell him.

Don't tell him backups exist. I mean, it's a dynasty league, so a backup would have to be on his team. And the other thing that could happen in our league of record, if Waddle scores 22 points tonight. Currently, no, he does. I don't think there's anything he can do. Fantastic. Holy fantastic. In the League of Record, if Waddle scores 22, I'll play against Papa Josh,

otherwise I'm playing against Mike. And that does mean right now, you know, assuming H.N. doesn't get 40 plus points. Three of the four people left are in the studio. So we've got a good chance keeping that trophy here. Oh, boy. Let's talk studs. This week's Fantasy Stud Muffins, presented by Lowe's. Trevor Lawrence, 44.3 points,

Bo Nix at 29. Trevor Lawrence, stream of the week. Bo Nix against Green Bay, big performance. That one also. No, Pat Bryant. Got him out of the way, Mike. Joe Burrell, very, very surprising in the negative way. Bo Nix, very surprising in the other direction.

Kirk Cousins, Brock Purdy, Jared Gough, your next three. That's right, Kirk Cousins, number three on the week. Thank you, Kyle. Brock, pretty, big performance. 23 for 30, 2.95 and 3 for Brock Purdy against Tennessee. It's funny because I was upset. We told, you know, we have been the most pro-Jacobi Brissette group as far as fantasy, telling him he's not a streamer anymore.

You've got to start him every single week. We told you this last week, like, I wouldn't play him this week. But thankfully, it was scary. The two names that we said most, you know, that was like if Purdy or Trevor Lawrence is out there, I'd play him ahead. Hey, it worked out because those guys were awesome. Um, Jacoby Resett is sitting at 12 on the week.

Wow. I mean, he had three touchdowns, right? He did. He did. I thought he'd be hiring it. Somehow sitting at 12, which means the streak, his streak is top 12 performances. But then Houston's streak is not giving up a top 12.

And we still got Monday night football games tonight to see if somebody can pass Jacoby. But, um, yeah, there were some, there were some performances that took a while. I'd say. Josh Allen took a while. Matthew Stafford took a while. Jackson Dart definitely took a while. Yeah, it did. That one was not looking good for quite some time. C.J. Stroud found

Nico on the opening possession and then kept it going. Three touchdowns, no picks. Jason's stream of the week. J.J. McCarthy. Your stream of the week, which was, I mean, that's... 250 and two of the rushing touchdown. Best game he's played. He looked great when he wasn't throwing to Justin Jefferson. What's with him in Nailer, man? I don't know. I mean, look, that's step one. Because, like, as of the game in Washington, it was like, he can't throw to the wide receiver position.

It just has to go to the tight end. Okay. Maybe some wide receiver, it's possible. I mean, we had... Adison had a nice... Taylor had two, right? And then Addison had that huge bomb. Almost scored.

Jefferson did score. If you didn't get to watch the game, Jefferson did score a touchdown, and it got called back. And then he... dropped the touchdown, right? Yes. I mean, he literally should have had two

and the again, these illegal formation things where it's like, this guy wasn't covered and he didn't report eligible and it's like they had no effect on the play. But man, McCarthy had some laser beams in that game.

I don't know if it's going to work. I still don't know if it's going to work based on. He dropped one of the laser beams. The McCarthy playing against essentially two of the best matchups for a quarterback who needs to get his confidence back. Let's see. What do we got rest of season? We got

the Giants coming up. That's another game that McCarthy could boost his confidence. But then you get Detroit and Green Bay. There was a reason you traded for Jefferson for the

stretch run. Yes. The schedule was great. Who plays more, who starts more games in the NFL in their career? J.J. McCarthy or Tyler Shuck. Interesting. Wow. Wow. I'll say McCarthy.

He's got the team around him. I lean that way a little bit too. And I mean, dude, that gritty as he was running for a touchdown? That took away some games for me. What? Oh, man. You, uh, the juxtaposition of how absolute butt he's been with. I was actually, your team is.

fired up from that. I was actually happy. I'm sure he had the face from the meme on that he, I was actually happy that he had that attitude, considering how, but he's been, because you can't have him stop believing in himself. That's the

beginning of the end. Yeah, I don't know. I think just running to the end zone and score touchdown. Running backs on the week, James Cook, 30 points. A firm hands show. O'Connell. Just hand a ball to the ref. like you've been there before. I can't stand these touchdown dances. Who am I talking to

you today? You're talking to some young, hip people. O'Connell hated it. Oh, O'Connell. His players loved it. Oh, my gosh. His teammates loved it. My gosh. You must love nine then. You must love the nine nickname. No. No, you do. It's fun. It's a line. It's fun. You love it.

No, I love that. I love the gritty. No, you have to call him nine. James Cook at 30. Travis E. T.N. at 30. Trayvion at 29, Bijon at 25, Tracy at 23. That's Tyrone Tracy. As opposed to... Well, just Tracy is more like a... Dick, Tracy? Who knows?

You know, I just wanted to be sure who you were clarifying for. No, it was just because Tyrone Tracy is not someone that everyone started. I don't think... I think people out there are like, wait, who's Tracy? Well, why didn't you say junior? We might have thought it was his dad. Tyronee Tracy, Jr. Thank you. Thank you for the correction. I'm just trying to help people know. Who scored fantasy points? Forgive me.

Tyrone Tracy, Jr., running back for the Giants number 29, number five on the week. That one, the, no, he had the injury two weeks ago. I got this one wrong. I thought Singletary would have been the better option here, but Tyrone and Tracy looked, he looked good. He got it done. So did James Cook, and we know Jason started the week, Travis E.T.N. I feel like Jason wheeled it into existence here. He was 12 or 32 on the ground, just to be clear.

He had amazing performance because of the receiving game. Three for 73 and three in the receiving game. Chavion Henderson is averaging 18.8 PPR points per game since week eight. He's so good. He's that guy. And the thing is, is I think that they are doing a good job with Romandre. Remandre was absolutely great in the beginning of this game. He still ended up six for 50.

50. He averaged eight a carry. And then Trayvion ends up with the two monster touchdowns because you can't catch him. Yeah, he's so fast. Having Ramandre, I think Remandre ran more routes than Henderson. That's a little weird to me, but this was better in terms of workload. Yeah, the last two weeks, remandre three catches on three targets, both weeks. My argument has never been that Ramondre shouldn't ever take snaps or ever play. I mean, the snaps were up at 60s. 37% for him. He's gone from 31 to 58 to 67, but they made the most, Trayvion just made the most of his touches. You need to give him enough opportunities so he can break. I mean, he had 14 carries. Yeah, he did. Remandre was six carries. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's, the carries versus the snaps. That's what it needs to be is Henderson has to touch the ball 15 or more times a game because your chance of at least one of those turning into a gigantic play, like a, a momentum shifting play. So fabulous, fabulous stuff.

I like it working here at the end of the year. Josh Jacobs, two touchdowns, including an incredible receiving touchdown. Yes, Masta guy. Had to tell the coaching stuff to leave him on the field. Oh, yeah. During part of the game, when they were trying to call him off. He's banged up, he's hurt, he's playing through injuries, and he is, he wants to be on that field every play, and I love it.

DeAndre Swift, DeAndre Swift ended up with, I think, the largest rushing percentage that he's had in a while 18 for 98 and 2 quietly the running back 14 on the year. That's crazy. I mean, you look at his entire career. Not a good day for

a non guy. You look at DeAndre Swift's career and he has never been outside the top 24 running backs. Never been inside the top 12. He is what he is. You have

Kairn, two more rushing touchdowns. Corum had a career high, 46% of snaps in this game and played well. But he had one rushing touchdown opportunity. He didn't get it. Kyron took over. Tony Pollard decided to run for 100 again. Corum did have a touchdown. No, did he?

Yeah. Yeah, Tony Pollard, what is going on here? Where has this been? Well, they've been scoring points the last two weeks. Might be corollary. Could? Could be causation. that Tony Pollard is getting it done.

Sequin Barclay, 22 for 78 and 1. J.C.M was 18 for 96 with the Chris Rodriguez start of the week. That sucks. Rodriguez ruled out late. JCP took over and then dominated. And the next week is Philly. Really sad. Thank you, Bill. I'll give him.

Yeah, give it to him now. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, I think Rodriguez would have been dominant. Awesome. Dominant. CMC and Javante as well gotten to the end zone. We will take a break and talk about wide receivers.

Do I need to wait? I just saw that Christian McCaffrey's on Monday night football. That means that Mike and I is a matchup. Would be CMC versus Johnny Taylor on Monday? Johnny Taylor versus CMC and George Kittle

on Monday night football. That's fun. Hoof! Hoofta! Top wide receivers on the week. I'm on Ross, St. Brown, 34.9. Pooka Nakua with a career high in yardage, I believe. 180 or so. I don't think he even scored, right?

Puka is just a machine. How is he that good? What is he doing? What is he doing different than everybody else? He's so strong. I saw PFF talking about how he is currently, with what it was four games to go or something, he has the most contested catch opportunities ever, and he's caught almost all of them. He is so strong, so tough.

He is not afraid of contact in any way, shape, or form. He literally got pulled off the field because the dude was cramping up. He had cramps. And then he came back out like a play later, and they just, they called a. running play for him. It was like, like, you know this guy is it's like at his end. He's cramping up. He's cramping up like, jet sweep.

Give him the ball. It's like, wow. If he dies, he dies. That's what it felt like. I was just like mind-blown. He's a tough dude. James nine target seven for one-thirty-four and one. J-mo inside the top ten, four of the last six weeks. When did Guns Mahoney tick the play calling? I think it was week nine. Jameson Williams.

Weird. I mean, he had a very outlier, play called back, Goose. Against the Giants? Against the Giants. But 1420, 1723, 1323, the wide receiver 8. If you haven't been paying attention to Jameson Williams, when the year started so poorly for him, Andy, he was one of your my guys this year. And it was a fail.

It was like, oh, well, dang, I can't believe I made him on my guy. You just said it. But on the course of the season, including all the bad stuff in the beginning, he's the eighth highest scoring wide receiver in the NFL right now for fantasy. It's crazy. Insane. It's crazy. And he's going to finish the year as a wide receiver won.

Yeah. Yeah, which, I mean, so will Amon Rao. They'll be together inside the top 10. It was a great performance again. I wonder what they play calling. When did Leporta go down? Because I know that that obviously helped consolidate things. It did.

Yeah, it was a lot. things. It's been out since week 11. Week 10 was his last game. I mean, the target, if you want to look pre and post buy, he's on pace for 72 targets before the buy. He's on pace

for 124 targets after the buy. He's on pace for 700 yards before the buy. He's on pace for 1,571 yards after the buy. Double-digit touchdowns. It's been a complete change. And this is part of, like we've had this many times. We've done the

show 11 years. We've had whatever that is, 33 my guys each. It's a bet on the talent, but you, I mean, without opportunity, a guy can't get it done. I mean, DJ Moore, I think, was a my guy at one point in time for one of us. And it was like, well, I mean, this year is kind of, that's been the narrative. It's like Trayvion Henderson. Opportunity. They wouldn't give him touches in the first half. He did it in week eight, take a Mario Super Mushroom, and all of a sudden, he's great at football. No, you always was. took injuries, remember? It wouldn't have happened.

For both guys. Yeah. Yeah, it wouldn't happen without injuries ahead of them. Yeah, but Trevo and James and Williams, Mike and I were not feeling good. No, not feeling good. Not feeling good. A lot better now. Feeling great.

Feeling great. Nico Collins, two touchdowns, three for 85 on this one. DJ Moore with a, DJ Moore had two touchdowns, including one that if you watch it over and over, you don't understand it. You could have every angle of this touchdown reception, and you'll have no idea how it It was an M.C. Escher painting. It didn't make any sense. Are you going up or down the stairs?

He threw it through two guys. The ball went through two defender bodies. And then I didn't see DJ Moore catch it, but he had the ball. He did have it at the end. It's like he had it in his shirt. And he just was like, oh, here it is. Yeah, Cortland Sutton got it done. 721, 13 and 1, and so did Troy Franklin.

Oh, man, Pat Bright would have dominated. Do you think a head coach could go out to, like, who David Copperfield David Blaine just to some magician and say illusionist Jason thank you an illusionist and figure out

a way Jason who just what about like the ultimate trick play the ball disappears Jason and then the guy's 10 yards down the field and whoops the balls right here that would be amazing what are the rules

there's no NFL rules against this I won't argue if all of a sudden the play and everyone's looking around for the ball No one can find the ball. Listen, I think if they could secretly get the ball down the field, they'd be doing it, man. They have not contacted the right illusionist. The J.G. McCarthy play was as close as you can get to that. Man, that just, yeah.

That looked like the ball. I want the camera. I want the camera to be panning and like the announcers. Where is the ball? It's in the end zone. If anyone could do it, it's David Blaine. That's, you would vomit out the football. If you're like, what?

Yeah, unfold it and it just Yeah Every ref would be holding their flag Like do I throw, what do I call? These are the kind of ideas we get when you win. Yeah, I mean, my two best ideas ever Is the Yao Ming idea. I'm telling you it would work.

That probably came after a win. And the illusionist. You want a seven, seven tight in? Yeah, just go four yards out. Put your hands out. Throwing the ball really high. Grab it and fall down. Do that 100% of plays.

That player will be chopped down on catch three and never play again. Only one way to find out, Mike. So if you're 7-7, what's your wingspan? Are you supposed to be 7-7? It could be a bit longer. It could be. But I mean, like, seven feet. Oh, no.

You would have real, real short arms. But dunking is a 10-foot hoop, which means that all those guys could easily jump up and get the ball, right? Yes. To 7. Oh, okay. Actually, I'm discouraged by this math. No. Because I thought your plan was good.

No, no, no. Those, those cornerbacks, those NFL cornerbacks could not get the ball away from Yat Wing. But they will, they will cut his legs down. But he's going to practice. He couldn't play basketball. He's going to practice grabbing and falling. It'll be one motion. Also, they're going to do the math on the amount of money they would make in the NBA versus the NFL.

You'll start having like freaking 7-7 dBs to cover him. Our corner runs a six-four. 540, but he's eight feet tall. This is so stupid. This is so stupid. Jamar Chase, 16 targets, 10 for 132. Yeah, somehow Jamar Chase came out. Okay, while Joe Burrow was just poop.

Olave. How many yards do Burrow have? It can't be much more than that. It wasn't good. He had a turnover. 225. Chris Olave. Man.

Six for 185 and one. Quietly, the wide receiver 10 on the season. He was having a disappearing act. for the majority of game thanks Mike but he has look in the Tyler Shuck games the last six games I mean this

is a good player Kyle Pitts Tray McBride Dallas Goddard Colby Parkinson George Kittal it cannot be understated how good Tray McBride has been he was 12 for 1, 34 and 2

you pretty much can't lose with him if he keeps playing like this that's pretty much the recipe unless you you catch some Kyle Pitts on your bench Or on your roster. But that's the thing is, Kyle Pitts, like the performance legendary, you know, like the essentially the best tight-in performance in modern fantasy football history. Trey McBride's at 31 points.

Like, Trey McBride is not that far behind. Do you realize that on the season, Trey McRide is averaging 16.3, he's number one. The next closest is Kelsey. What? Wait, Kelsey's the... At 10.4 points per game. He's more than George. Which means the third highest is Kyle Pitts on the season.

We do a fantasy truth series. We will bring up Kyle Pitts who will show up on all your platforms. This is total points. Okay. This isn't points per game, right? No, that's points per game. It says points per game right there, or is that total points? I think so I'm looking at points per game.

You got Tucker Kraft was technically second at 12.7. This is sorted by total. But still, the gap between 16 and 12. Tucker Kraft is out and didn't get the whole year. Yeah. It's just, there's no comparison right now to Trame McBray. Wow. But total fantasy points, which is what you're going to see at the end of the year with the

ranking, Kyle Pitts is going to show up at three or better. Well, just behind him. He could be at two. Just behind Kyle Pitts guys. Dallas Goddert. Oh, and should have been. Six for seven and two and should have had three. And he dropped the touchdown.

Yeah. He dropped the easiest touchdown I've ever seen in my life. I don't understand this offense. do you do you buy into the colby parkinson performance now that we have like i do because of for touchdowns i do well you you now have the number one touchdown score the receiver devante adams out and colby parkinson is he has been a top 10 tight in five of six weeks guys he's he is still scoring a lot he was kind of uh i think you can play a touchdown it was a little little strange i kept watching that it was just weird i understand why they rule

Well, the screenshot on that was a betrayal of the truth. Yeah, because I think he was still bobbing. He was bobbling the football and repossessed it when he was in the end zone. And I watched it like five times after Jason or somebody told me that. It just felt like a weird play. But yeah, Colby. Six touchdowns in six weeks with Devante. The way that Stafford is playing, Parkinson is is playable as a guy that you're just

hoping for a touchdown. Yeah, I mean, if you look at the last six weeks, he's on pace for 17 touchdowns, but only 600 yards. It's just going to make a big difference to have no Devante Adams, though. It will. And who's picking up the slack for Adams, other than Parkinson? Like, 2-2-A-W-W-2-A-Wel would be the guy that I would pick up, but, you know, TBD. Yeah.

I wish it would be Terrence Ferguson getting on the field more, and, you know, I think he's still got a bright future, but he's not there yet. I think Parkinson could end up winning some titles. Let's talk duds. pooped in his big boy pants. Well, Dack, threw for zero touchdown. Almost 300 yards and played okay. But when you rush all the touchdowns, it sucks for fairness. And their season's done.

Their season's season is over as well. Listen to the contrast to this. Joe Burrow 39 pass attempts. Lamar Jackson 12. Oh, my gosh. Lamar Jackson completed eight passes. So I don't know. If you told me that part in the beginning of the week,

I probably wouldn't have picked. I would not have picked Mark Andrews as my start of the week or encouraged people to play as I likely. I would not personally have played both of those players because... How did you not know? I don't know. I mean... They won handedly.

Man. That game was so... So weird. Dumb and weird. I mean... So dumb and weird. Yeah, I mean, Dack did throw over 294. Jordan Love threw for 276 and one, but through two picks.

Disappointing week, that was going to be a tough matchup against Denver. Herbert, I mean, Herbert and Mahomes just took turns running away from defensive linemen in that game and looking frantic and uncomfortable the entire game. You know, the Mekonki thing, it's kind of scary right now. They got Dallas in Dallas next week. Dallas is playing okay on the defensive side. Yeah, but guys are still scoring on him. J.J. McCarthy just had a good game.

I get it. I get it. I'm not saying not playing. I'm just saying that Ladd has been, it's been tough. If you played him, I understand it. Sad McComkey. Yeah, sad and bad. Jamir Gibbs, 13 for 38. The Lions are 0 and 6 in every game he doesn't score a touchdown. Wow. Brise Hall couldn't do anything against Jacksonville. We were very worried about Breece Hall. Same with Jentee. 9 for 30. what can you do? I mean, what can you do in that situation? That is a terrible football team. There's nothing. And you play Houston. I mean, it just call it now. Is Genty even playable

against Houston? I don't know. It will obviously depend on who you have on your team, but yeah, maybe not. There's a chance that that's a bad call. Yeah, he will be in the place where you've got to look at your lineup and make a decision. He hasn't scored 10 points in three weeks and that nine, four, six. And granted, those were three good defenses, right? The Chargers, the Broncos, and the Eagles, good defenses. But Houston. He scored 6.4 against Dallas. That, ooh. So, I do not envy anyone making that decision this week. Yeah, we'll get some start-stick questions. I'm sure they're going to flood in about week 17, or sorry, week 16, and Gentie.

Hampton, 15 for 61. I mean, that's not the end of the world, just didn't score. Vidal was worse, 12 for 33. They still won the football game. That was a dog fight, Kansas City, low-scoring game. I think we kind of joked about that one being low-scoring. And Judkins, this was a big disappointment. This one's massively disappointing.

I know on Sunday Live, there were some different rookies being thrown out there, Mike, and you were the most confident, you know, we all were confident in Judkins. Jerome Ford's on the IR. Dylan Samson was ruled out. It's like Judkins is going to be on the field for everything. Three catches for negative four yards. And only 12 carries. They wanted to put the ball in Shador's hands so he could throw it to the other team.

If you were Team Sanders, this was not the week. Ken Walker has been Kenneth Crawler the last two weeks. It's been real bad. It's been unstartable. Charbonnet was just as bad. Yeah. And then Cream Hunt and Chuba didn't do anything. So is Indy tough?

Are they a tough run defense shutting down Walker and Charbonny? Indy is a good defense, but also the- Who's Christian McCaffrey played on Monday Night Football? They are a tougher defense. But here's the thing that it's like Seattle. What, where are we with Seattle of now three, I think it's three weeks in a row of you have one good offensive half of football? They, I mean, we haven't talked to P. River yet. They almost lost to Phillip Rivers at home.

It took a, just a miracle drive and a big long field goal to take the lead back while there was essentially no time left. They almost lost to Philip Rivers because the offense can't do anything. They didn't score a touchdown. It was, what, five field goals? I can't remember how many they had. I don't know what the score was. Let me pull it up. 16, 13, maybe?

So it was... 15, 13? It was 18, 18, 16. Oh, okay. They, their offense is... All field goals. Their offense is broken right now. Like, very, very broken.

Um, yeah. I don't know what happened. It ended up being a defensive battle and... Sam... The Sam Darnold conversation. End of season. Sam Darnold. Well, this is, I mean, look,

they're probably going to keep him as their quarterback because the season's being great. Oh, yeah, no, they will. But I am, you don't understand how quick stuff changes. If you have a couple of games, if they flame out in the playoffs, he's not the quarterback of the Vikings right now, and he should have been.

But recency is, recency bias is very powerful. And if you, if you end the season and you throw three picks and for 116 yards, and you flame out of the playoffs. He'll be their quarterback. But there'll be some, what do we got in Jalen?

What do we have in Mill Road? There'll be some talk. I'm saying the rest of the, you're playing JSN, no matter what. Just that I'd be feeling a little skittish here. You get the Rams? That's who the Seahawks play. It's Thursday, by the way. Oh, ma.

Justin Jefferson. All right. Yep. give it to me give it to me put his handle up put his Twitter handle up there let's get him situated

I don't know if you can zoom I thought Justin we can digitally zoom after the fact game Is there a button for this guy I thought he'd have like eight targets against Dallas

Maybe one more Oh he did I thought he could get a touchdown Oh he did He got called back And they're not going to stop No that you shouldn't stop I told you, give it to my...

Justin Jefferson is my fault. I will say this. My saving grace... Hit it again. The thing that makes me okay... But... No, no, no, no. No, it's not a disclaimer.

It's... Mike, you did Sunday Live. Yeah. How many Justin Jefferson questions did you field? Probably... I don't even remember. I remember you saying on there. It's like, you have like none.

Like, there's nobody's asking questions about Justin Jefferson. I did say I would probably not play him. Yeah. Well, that's great. That's great, great advice. But I'm just happy. So you made a guy, you made a guy your start of the week that you knew no one was going to play? No, no, no. I am surprised. It's not that people didn't play them.

It's what we joked about prior. We joked about it that if you had them, you didn't make the playoffs. So I think that, you know, it was like, yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah, yeah. He did. But the ones that they did make the playoffs.

Yeah. Sorry. Hope you got to the next round. Jordan Addison, two for 66. Just four catches between the two guys. George Pickin, three for 33. He plays the Giants next week. Oh, man. Don't, no. You don't have to do that. George. Pickens? What is happening? It's what, it's called George Pickens. This is 100% George Pickens's entire life. George Pickens. You talk about an illusionist. George?

He can disappear with the best one. George, you got three games. Don't fumble the bag, man. George, George, you need it. We all need it. Everyone needs George Pickens to be good. Here's the real problem is you're going to have this narrative that's going to form for George Pickens. There's dominance without C.D. Lamb.

Then there's some good performances with him. Then there's, I don't care about football anymore, George Pickens. and that's going to all frame how much money he gets in this off season, whether it's a franchise tag, whatever it is. But that's been, we all joke about the fact that why would the Steelers let this guy go? I think it wears thin over time. There are players where it does that. None of that denies the talent of George Pickens.

We've had talented players. 1,200 yards and eight touchdowns so far. I mean, there are a lot of players that have unbelievable talent. I think it really comes down. Josh Gordon and Cadarius Tony and, I mean, superstars. It really comes down to these next three weeks. I mean, it really does. You know, he's had two bad weeks.

Like, it's not the end of the world if he comes back and finishes the year strong. Now, if he has five bad weeks to finish the year, then everything you're talking about, the questions, the contract he can or can't get in the offseason, that'll be a big debate. But I want to face the number one DB or number one team against wide receivers this next week. We got my, my guy, George Pickin, sitting on the season at wide receiver four. you're my guy, Andy, currently sitting on the season wide receiver 8, but going completely different directions.

Who would you start next week? You'd start J-Mo next week. Who finishes the season higher? You're not playing George Pickens against the charge-hunches next week. I would play, no, I would definitely start J-Mo over Pickens next week. So J-Moh is playing Pittsburgh. I would probably

play him. It is weird because you'll never be able to correlate it, but it's like these next three games. How many millions does they matter for him? How many millions of guaranteed dollars? Truly, probably less than we want to pretend because the wide receiver marketplace, it's, yeah, you covet someone with his skill set. He'll get all the money he wants, even if he's, but like, but success. I think that the, if he, if we do flame out here and it's just three more absolute stinkers, do the good teams show up with the money or is it just the crap teams where it's like, okay, congratulations. You have, you have the money.

Should play on the Raiders, dude. He should be a He is a perfect reader My dynasty team needs you to shut up This was a bummer Ted McMillan just two for 25 Yeah And Jalen Coker has been involved

Ladd McConkey 2 for 20 His last four games He's had three of them with three or fewer points And you've had missing pieces, right? It's not like the chargers have had Some other guys step up to be dominant Like Quentin Johnson was even out of this game You do get to play Dallas, but then it's Houston, Denver.

Like Ladd-McConkie right now, you can play them next week. Yep. But you better have a plan beyond that, because I don't know if Houston's the matchup you want for your championship. No. With the offensive line the way that it is for the Chargers, there's a Herbert can't really be great. Andrews likely Bowers to 6 for 28.

Jake Ferguson, who was banged up, 2 for 16. This one sucked. Dalton Kincaid, 3 for 34. No. It was beautiful. Yeah, Jason was playing against Kincair. I should have seen that because Dawson Knox was going to cut the touchdown. Tyler Warren, three for 19.

Everyone wanted to know whether they could play him. Well, all Colts. Michael Pittman was, what, three for 26. Alec Pierce won for 16. Philip Rivers did not throw for 200 yards. No. I'm not joking. Like, I can make all the throws Philip made.

They, we didn't really we haven't talked much Philip Rivers so can you by the way did you see the play where he kind of fell down and then he had to stand up

and it looked so difficult he slipped in the pocket he wasn't touched needed to get up and continue the play and it looked like how I get up when my knees are hurting standing up no hands at that age and that physical level of fitness

was it it was pretty tough and yet it i mean i give him more credit than oh sure i mean it's so amazing what he did he should have won it it looked like it the throws it looked like that last year of Peyton manning where this is still a quarterback who mentally is is great can hand like he can read defenses he knows what he knows his limitations but that ball was just he's everything he's got Everything he's got left. Now, did you tell people to start him over Burrow, Mike? Because that would have been the right choice. I did not.

Oh, my gosh, he scored more points than Borough. Yeah. Gross. I apologize. I added him to one of my teams on the bench as like a leadership position. Yeah. Oh, nice. I figured.

I think he is part of the reason you want to talk about, you know, them being in the game, how the Colts defense played. It's probably, Phil Rivers actually made an impact there. And it was probably the right move to put him in over Riley Leonard. I wish they were so close to winning that game. I hate that at like a field goal with like 30 to 40 seconds left is like you're going to lose That's how it feels in the NFL now

Yeah If you don't it feels like you're yeah you're probably going to lose I mean because the kickers make them from so far now And like I think Hmm I mean I didn't just win so maybe my idea sucks But I think you should narrow the uprights I mean that's I think I think you should bring them in

What a foot or two each side at least five yards each side not sure eat each well look what does that make it then impossible get kickers out of the did you say yards yes not feet look if you narrow them you kick less vehicles total because your risks go up so you get more fourth downs which is what people want anyways maybe um so what do you what are you feeling about warren and pitman terrible terrible you can't. You see Anthony Richardson is going to be practicing? He's been cleared medically. I don't think you can start a pass catching option

for the Colts. It's Jonathan Taylor and check out now. Yeah, San Francisco and Jacksonville and Houston to finish the year. It's probably, I mean, that's just going to be tough sliding for JT. So the width of the goal post is 18 feet and six inches, and you want to take five yards off of each, I don't think we can do that. I mean, it would be impossible. Yeah. Yeah, you would move the left

up right and the right up right and the right up right would become the left and you would have a new gap Right. So I get what you're saying. Yeah. I get what you're saying. It works. You're a mad man.

A yard is three feet, right? Yeah. So you want 15 and, I think it might be wider now. I'm not sure. Incredible. Incredible job. Yeah, I feel horrible about all Colts. Okay.

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