Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 15 Studs & Duds + Revenge of the Smith - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/18

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

Week 15 fantasy recap on today’s fantasy football podcast! Andy, Mike, and Jason react to the best and worst performances of Week 15. Who can be trusted in lineups going forward in the fantasy playoffs? Plus, injury updates, and a Week 15 edition of Monday Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for December 18th, 2023. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Studs of the Week, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. Visit youtube.com/fantasyfootballers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome in. That's very high-pitched today. Yeah, I mean, does that mean you're happy? Are you a happy camper? I'm a whole bunch of everything, Jason. A little happy, a little sad, a little crazy, a little caffeinated. Yeah, you didn't win them all. You didn't lose them all.

Yeah, I didn't lose any of my bye weeks. That's always a nice part. Welcome in, one and all. Monday, the fantasy footballers, Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. So much to react to over the weekend. A lot of emotions were flowing here in Ballers' studio, and there's still football to be played tonight. And does Jalen Hurts play football?

I think so. He better. But why don't we just kick the show off with one of our favorite segments? It's the B-Jean Minute, yeah. I was ready for Monday, pun day. Oh, man. And you hit me with the B-Jean Minute drop. You hit me with a B-Jean from your playoffs drop.

Dude. Oh, man. Revenge of the Sith. Holy moly. Arthur Smith, you suck. Arthur Smith,ith you suck i'm so happy you lost that game i hope you lose your job you you have some different opinion number two remember when you were like uh yeah arthur's like oh loki's not a bad guy we got like a whole super cut of you singing praises of arthur smith you to Carolina. You fell right into his trap.

I sure did, man. He waited for week one of the playoffs. You think he doesn't know it's playoffs in fantasy football? 100% he does. 1,000%. He's like, hey, hey, check this out. This is four weeks ago. He got his coaching staff together.

He goes, hey, check this out. Do you see that the fantasy football playoffs start the week that we have the best matchup against a ground opponent? we can run all day on carolina what if we don't use bijan i mean bijan seven for eleven three targets and a fumble one fumble the falcons the falcons big three drake london by the way i sent you each $100. Oh, yeah. I did receive it. I received it as well. Thank you. Merry Christmas.

I fell for the Drake London into my DFS lineup. The Falcons Big Three touched the ball in 25% of offensive plays. So that's Drake London, Kyle Pitts, Bijan, 25% of the plays. Yeah. Bijan had a season low 58% of offensive snaps. Nice. That's the lowest of any healthy game this year. Perfect.

Mike, did you say revenge of the sith i did um oh man he you got screwed he knew he thought he could win the game without the three places like it's carolina this is going to be hilarious i'm going to troll all the fantasy and then it got out of control yeah and, and then he was like, oh, oh, no! We could lose this! We could lose this game! You did lose. To a Carolina. To Bryce Young and Carolina. At least you had on the other, your

other running back. Because you had Bijan, and this is in your dynasty playoffs. No, no, no, this is in half of my playoffs. So I'm in four playoffs, and in two different leagues. Well, you were. Well, right. I had B. John Robinson and Brees Hall as my two running backs. And what's the Brees Hall minute like? Oh, Brees Hall like quadrupled the score of B. John Robinson.

But my opponent played Tajay Spears, who outscored those two guys combined. And Spears scored about five? Right. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It was not great. So those guys – All fantasy football thoughts?

Real big fan? Yeah. I mean, it's really ironic because, you know, we've – over the course of the season, all three of us have had really good dynasty teams in our main dynasty league. Andy and I, we were basically playing for the bye all year. And my team was built on the back of three young stud running backs Brees Hall Bijon and Travis Etienne well that didn't work yeah what Etienne had about

seven points yeah I don't think the three of them combined for 10 points and I'm still technically in it I need 46.14 points from Jalen Hurts and Devontae Smith tonight. Well, we weren't the only ones reacting to the weekend, of course. And boy, there was a lot more bad than good coming in on Monday Punday, as you would expect on a weekend like this. We didn't, some of the studs didn't perform. So let's reflect in the most sophisticated fashion possible with some of your Monday pun day entries.

Why not start with the good? Like Isaiah, certainly. That's good. Or Yadin Waddle. Oh, he was good. Super Cup. Or Christian McTouchdown. Uh-huh.

I like this guy. Rushy, nice. Yeah. How about some james cooking and um how about sam la playoffs yeah baby he might end up the number one tight end on the year yeah uh sam la transporta you to the next round of the playoffs uh or you got uh the bad you got breeze bad. You got Breeze Halt or Be Gone Robinson. Let's just stay there with Be Junk Robinson. Be John Robin wins

from me. Man, he's been so good, but then Mike. Yeah, Dak Poopscott. Or Sacked Prescott. Losten Eckler. Devon A. Cant. And Flake London, of course.

Yeah, and sad Travis Smelcy. Oh. And Sam Bowles. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. There were a lot of letdowns this week. And as an update, that is four years in the making. Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Destiny. Destiny's child has disbanded. And our champ, champ, champ team. We got. Travis Smelcy here reminded me. Yeah.

We got McCaffrey. We sure did get McCaffrey. Destiny is over. Yeah. And I believe the other... How many teams in that league? 12? Yep.

So 11 teams throwing a parade this afternoon. There was much rejoicing. Oh, in the slack? Yeah, a lot of gifts. Oh, my gosh. The rain is over. It's hurtful. The king is dead.

Me and Jason, we were hurting men. Oh, I'm sure. And these guys are just like, I'm going to throw all these gifts to make fun of you. I can't believe it. It's completely inappropriate. Childish. I'm not in that league, and I couldn't be happier. I have been listening to Champ Champ Champ for so long.

We didn't get it. Down goes Frasier. Yeah. Champ Champ Champ Chump. Oh oh the last year yeah now you're gonna have to try to go for champ champ champ space champ yeah i'll take a high yeah we're probably gonna need to do a little bit of rebuilding we've has the clock run out yeah with our our derrick henry mike evans travis kelsey uh led rosters uh it's like a fine wine Our Derrick Henry, Mike Evans, Travis Kelsey-led roster, it's like a fine wine that is expiring.

It's like, oh, this one's been too old. I know it's studs and duds today, so we're going to talk about all of them. But, I mean, you know, if you played Easton Stick, you got a lot more points than you did from Sam Howell's 11 or Dax 8 or Kyler's 16 somehow or Fields 12. It was the quarterbacks, 12. A lot of the, it was the quarterbacks. Yeah.

I mean, they, they really stunk it up. And what's funny is like you said, all of the no name guys that nobody would have played. Um, they all, they all scored over 20 fantasy points.

The, the Jake Brownings and the, uh, you know, uh, did you see Jake Browning? He had his, uh,

you like that moment? Yeah. Oh, I missed that. He turned to the camera. He slammed his helmet down, and he said, you shouldn't have something cut me. Yeah, yeah. I read about it, but I haven't seen it.

It was great. Yeah. He's 3-0. Yeah. I mean, fired up for him. And he got it done again. It's wild. It's been a crazy, crazy weekend with more on the table.

All the studs and duds today. Let's talk some news first. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Jamar Chase suffered an AC joint sprain in his right shoulder. The Bengals are bracing for Jamar Chase to miss some time.

He's getting an MRI today. If only you made the playoffs, Mike, T. Higgins could have just carried you from here on out. Yeah, we're not going to talk about my illegal records scoring output this weekend. But for Jamar Chase, there was the little bonus news blurb of he went to do the MRI, and he was in too much pain to actually get it done. Well, that's not good. That it be prepared to be without Jamar chase MRI. You're just laying there. So guys do crazy stuff, but you will be talking replacements.

Michael Pittman, who was on his way to another great game, was absolutely annihilated in a hit that left him in the concussion protocol and also had the defender ejected from the game. I think he should be ejected from several games. He should have to miss as many games as Pittman misses. That hit was brutal. And what's crazy is it's concussion protocol protocol so this is this is brain but like the hit was more than just head i mean the way that he kind of got bent backwards i was worried about his neck yeah he's scorpion yeah that is exactly what happened everybody knows what you mean when

you say and let levis reverse scorpion right no he also that's a scorpion full scorpion, right? No, he also scorpion. That's a scorpion, full scorpion? Yeah. Yeah, you don't want a scorpion. No, you don't. That's one of my – what did Keaton Mitchell do then? Oh, that was a hyperextension of his knee. That was not worth watching. Zach Moss got off to a hot start and then injured his right wrist, never came back in the game. That one – like the Pittman and Moss ones feel just extra awful.

I mean, injuries always feel bad, but 31% of the snaps for Pittman. He was already four for 78. He was crushing. Zach Moss scored on the play that he re-injured his arm, and then the running backs for the Colts went on to have good outputs, so it was just insult to injury. Trevor Lawrence left with a concussion. Yeah.

He is in question for next week. Yeah, yeah. That was after the game. It was announced he's in protocol, and so TBD. Not the concussion after the game, though, right? Concussion was during the game? He got the concussion during the game. Didn't know if it was one of those hit your head in the locker room things.

See what players do. Hollywood Brown. Why is this beam so low? Hollywood Brown exited again with a heel injury. Hollywood Brown has been utterly deleted from the software. There is no remaining code for Hollywood Brown. He doesn't know. Kyler doesn't know.

He left the last game he was in. He only played half of those snaps with this heel injury. Then had the bye week. Then missed practice after the bye week came and started, and hopefully he didn't start. You can't trust him the rest of the season. Jaden Reed left early with a toe injury after another good game. Will Levis.

High ankle sprain is what's being reported. It looked bad, but then he was on the sidelines standing up. High ankle sprain is what's being reported. It looked bad, but then he was on the sidelines standing up. Zach Wilson did not return for the second half. It was listed as dehydration by the CBS broadcast, and then the team labeled it head. Ruled out with concussion. It was. I mean, Zach Wilson was in a full snapback pedal.

Yeah. Every single play. Jason, you said not enough credit goes to how bad the offensive line is with relation to how bad the Jets are with relation to how bad their quarterbacks are. You think the quarterback will fix it. Aaron Rodgers is the problem. The fact that he got injured. Brees Hall is bad, and it's all because of the poor quarterback play,

how bad Zach Wilson is, how bad the quarterbacks behind Zach Wilson were. But I know people have talked about it. I mean, this isn't breaking news that the Jets' offensive line is bad, but Zach Wilson's name has just trumped probably the biggest problem. I think their offensive line is a bigger problem than how bad their quarterback play is, and their quarterback play is awful. If you watch that game, you can't bring Rodgers back.

No, he'll... You paid him all that money, he will be injured again. He will be injured immediately. Just give the man scissors to cut his Achilles again right now if you want. You can't put him behind that offensive line. Over the Jets' last 17 games, they have 13 total offensive touchdowns. The Brees Hall, 6 for 12. So, wait, Brees Hall was 6 for 12 and Bijon was 7 for 11?

Yeah. So, that's 13 for 23 between two superstars. Yep. And they will enter the – if you made it through with one of them. Yeah, I hope you had the buy. They will enter the terror start category next week. Yeah, with Garrett Wilson. Well, Breece Hall at least gets the Washington Manders, so should be okay.

Okay. Okay. We'll see. The Eagles quarterback, Jalen Hurts, who got news yesterday, he was downgraded to questionable, dealing with a severe illness that worsened overnight, traveling separate from the team as to not get anybody sick. You have double quarterback questions tonight.

Gino Smith is considered now a long shot to play. So the NFL flexed the Eagles Seahawks into Monday Night Football and then now we might get Marcus Mariota versus Drew Locke. My thoughts right now

hopefully you picked up Mariota because you couldn't. It's not like you could pick up Geno and be sure or pick up Drew Locke and be sure. So, Mariota, at least you'd be sure to have coverage for Jalen Hurts. Yeah. But, you know, I imagine Hurts plays tonight, but it's still very nerve-wracking.

If you didn't make plans, I guess you pivot to the Locke-Geno situation if you can. Did you say the part that Geno is a long shot? Yeah. Okay, because I was laughing to myself. Imagine you're the staff of that plane that had to fly Jalen Hurts over. You're like, Jalen, why are you by yourself? Oh, I don't want to get the rest of my team sick. Thanks for flying me.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I mean, Drew Locke. You're that sick? Get off my plane. I would play Drew Locke over Mariota. I would play Drew Locke, too. You're saying if Hurst doesn't go. If you could choose that.

If Hurst doesn't go. Yeah, I would agree with that. And so that's tonight's game. Now, if you need a big performance, but you've got to stack with Devontae Smith, would that change you to go to Mariota just hypothetically? Not me. I'd rather take the shot against the secondary that's now without Darius Slay. Yeah.

Philadelphia is already the worst in history numbers-wise. Impressive. With some of the touchdown and reception totals. And then you've got DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Jackson Smith and Jigba. I guess I'd roll. Just be healthy, Hertz. Please. Yeah. Well I guess I'd roll just be healthy Hertz well he's not going to be healthy but I think he plays if you want to follow along at home

Jason's final chance at joy in this world is Jalen Hertz plus Devontae Smith equals more than 46 fantasy points they've done it four times so about 30% of the time this year it would have worked out.

But 0% of those times did he have the flu. Yeah, or whatever he's dealing with. Is that confirmed? Was it the flu? No, I have no idea. That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Studs of the Week, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV.

Well, if you had Sunday Ticket, you could watch Jared Goff. Yeah. Five? We got it right, boys. Five touchdown passes. And you needed every one. Yeah. I am holding on. I need, it's me versus Brook one. Yeah. I am holding on.

I need – it's me versus Brooksy. Yeah. And if DK Metcalf scores 23 or so, Brooks will win. And I needed Jared Goff for that buffer. Yeah, and it'll be a horror show for you if, like, DK gets a first-half touchdown. Oh, yeah. Because if that happens tonight you will be on like second

half tilt watch. So this is that's it is just Brooks needs DK and yeah. Oh wow. How fun. And DK needs 22.4 I believe. Something like that. How many times has he done it this year in our scoring format? Once or twice. Recently. Yeah but it was the three touchdown

game but that was not Drew Locke. I know. So Mike Mike's already got it. Recently. Yeah, but it was the three-touchdown game, but that was not Drew Locke. I know. So Mike's already got it. But it is against Philly today. Jared Goff, five touchdowns, the quarterback nine on the year. And just the nastiest, stinkiest drive home a touchdown at the very end of a game. It's not for no reason, but they went for it on fourth and short just to ice the game and then goff is like i'm just gonna throw another touchdown so that was delightful

yeah congrats yeah uh so we have baker mayfield oh my goodness perfect passer rating first time in history in lambo that he was excellent he looked I mean, he was 22 for 28. 381 yards, four touchdowns. I know the biggest loser out there in the Megalobowl, which I am out of now, he had Jalen Hurts, and he was worried about the sickness. He had the gumption to put in Baker, and he got all these points. Good move. Yeah, I mean, the names that I'm reading out are not

often started. Baker and Aiden O'Connell and Gardner Minshew and Derek Carr. These are DFS guys. It was a bad week for quarterbacks in general. Brock Purdy though. Four more touchdowns against the Cardinals. Next week, Baltimore. That's the matchup.

Running back, CMC. Three touchdowns. the Cardinals next week Baltimore that's the matchup running back CMC three touchdowns oh man the Cardinals left McCaffrey and Debo so open on a couple of plays I mean they it's wild they have to go play Baltimore next week right so that'll be a much more difficult matchup thankfully it's at home, they're a really good defense. It's San Francisco, though. Yeah. They're unstoppable. And he is the betting favorite for Offensive Player of the Year. Brock Purdy?

No, Christian McCaffrey. Oh, McCaffrey is? For Offensive Player of the Year. Oh, okay. No, that makes sense. He's having one of those seasons that you look back on and you remember LaDainian Tomlinson, you remember like these crazy seasons. He's on pace for 378 opportunities, 2,200 total yards, 24 touchdowns total. Only three running backs have ever hit that mark. LT, Priest, Holmes, Marshall, Falk. This is one of those like you got him you're gonna win a championship it's gonna be hard to miss out like it took christian mccaffrey to beat champ champ champ we got mccaffrey i i you got mccaffrey in in dfs you fool yeah yeah i did and uh i am nervous about

the baltimore game because people need him in the semis. He plays Washington for the championship. So it's like I have a team, the dynasty number one seed, that I've got McCaffrey. And last year I lost in the semis when I was a favorite, and this year I'm afraid of McCaffrey against Baltimore. But you just got to hope they can overcome. Hopefully that's a good game. It's a Christmas game.

Monday night, Christmas, Baltimore. Really? 49ers. Christmas miracles. Are those the best two teams in football record-wise? I believe so. Yeah, that's crazy. James Cook was crazy. Oh my goodness. Like a hot knife through butter on

every play. 25 for 179. Two touchdowns. And they could not stop him. They couldn't stop him. You know who was stopping him? The Buffalo Bills. Like, there were several plays where they're by the end zone, and it's like, no, we can't put James Cook in there.

Well, I mean, Latavia scored, right? So Latavia's Murray got a touchdown on the ground in this. It was. Josh Allen had a touchdown on the ground. And the last five weeks for James Cook, the number two, number two, number 17, number nine, number 24. So somehow he's the RB5 on the year, although the last five weeks were really the only ones that you could start him with confidence.

But they have changed the equation in Buffalo. They are running the football. They are giving James Cook opportunities. It has come at the expense of Dalton Kincaid and Stephon Diggs and Gabe Davis. I mean, Kincaid and Gabe Davis both goosed this week. So hopefully you ran away from Kincaid the way I did in our League of Record because I was terrified. Well, you had David Njoku.

Yeah. So that made it a lot easier. It did make it easier, although I did talk to some people this week that had the other opinion, that wanted to play Dalton Kincaid, and I was like, you crazy. I don't want to do that. Can you imagine? I would have lost.

Jameer Gibbs continues dominating at football, 11 for 100, two more touchdowns. He is now the RB7 in fantasy points per game. Nice. Ty Chandler. Yeah, baby. He looked awesome. 23 for 132 and a touchdown.

He looked better than Madison ever looked this season. Well, Madison had 13 games and zero rushing touchdowns. Ty Chandler got one start and has a rushing touchdown. And 132 yards and explosive top end speed that you're looking for. And huge shout out to Mike because he was bullish on Chandler and I was

bullish on Chandler until the, like, just thinking more about the quarterback situation and remembering what, like, who was the demon quarterback that ruined Delvin Cook. Man, we would have to look that one up. Kyle, are you listening?

It was an atrocious player. This was a Green Bay game. Was this 22? This cost me a championship. Sean Mannion. No, it wasn't Mannion. Mannion would have been great. Was that week 17?

Yeah, it was week 17 championship championship and all you had to do was help dalvin cook get about six points or was it 16 was it week 16 in a 17 week season it's one of those we'll find the name yeah i'm trying to scout it down here yeah i'll know it because i mean i think it was sean manion it was it was not yeah it was sean manion. It was not Sean Mannion. Yeah, it was Sean Mannion because Dalvin Cook was 9 for 13. Was it? Yep. And three receptions for zero yards. It was a combo.

Sean Mannion was 22 of 36, and Kellen Mond had three passes. That's who it was. It was Kellen Mond. Well, Mond had. No, no, no. It's not that game then. It was the game Kellen Mond started. I can promise you.

It was Green Bay. Yeah, this is the green bay game did kellen mon start that game and that i don't know i'm just looking at box scores anyways anyways oh yeah but yeah back to ty chandler being awesome um and and robbed of a touchdown i don't remember how long the run was, but it was a, it was, it had to have been like a 40 yard rush gets tackled barely on the one. And then they called the stupidest pass play that you can call for the end zone. And Nick Mullins is running around, running around, throws up a prayer ball that Jordan Addison happens to catch. It was like, come on.

Come on, man. Give the ball to Chandler. He deserves that touchdown. Kyron Williams, 27 for 152 and a touchdown. The chalk. He looked a lot like James Cook looked, where it was just unstoppable every single play back and forth. But as good as he is, and he's been great, I mean, the Washington Manders,

it's just sometimes matchups aren't fair. Rashad White, now they are before on the year, continues to dominate. Yeah, he had 50 yards receiving with a receiving touchdown to go along with 20-plus carries, almost a hundred yards on the ground. He's been really, really great. And he's so consistent. His floor is so high.

They have really changed to where he is like the, the, the center of their offense. And he's a true workhorse. He gets volume in a way that they're like five other guys get in the league. Speaking of volume, Devin Singletary. Yeah, what? Damian Pierce, I believe, had one opportunity in this game.

I saw Agumbo Walley out there. Yeah, he played one snap. He had one opportunity. And then Devin Singletary, this is something to watch. I mean, 31 opportunities. Once again, ran the ball well. 26 for 121. Four for 49 through the passing game.

He's the reason they won this game. He's the reason they won the game. And if you look at his history over the last six games, his pace would be 300 attempts, 1,500 rushing yards, eight touchdowns, 39 receptions. Wow. And that is with a couple of games where he didn't get a lot of snaps because of Damian Pierce.

So, you know, it's a very tough matchup against Cleveland next week but it's at home and Devin Singles I think is going to get all the snaps yeah and he's he's been really really good he he's won the job for a team that is competing for the playoffs they are at the point now where it's like that I think they'll have CJ Stroud back this week which is even better um but they are at the point now where it's like that i think they'll have cj stroud back this week which is even better um but they're at the point where it's like they need to put their best player on the field and make sure that they're securing these games to to play you know after uh week 18 and i think it takes a lot of like it's good coaching because he's been 4.8 a carry during that entire stretch and you've've got a player like Damian Pierce is about three a carry,

maybe lower. And you're not just, you're not out jeering. Yeah. You're not just like blindly loyal. Yeah. Just try to win the game. I hate Arthur Smith,

man. You went through a real, he got me. He got me. Yeah yeah it's like you guys had gone through counseling yeah things were looking better didn't work out yeah but he arthur relapsed yeah that was the issue clyde edwards a lair jerek mckinnon clyde did not look good on the ground again but he did have a big catch four for 64 and a touchdown through the air. Jarek McKinnon scored and then, I guess, missed some time. It was a strange situation because he went out before halftime.

The clock is ticking down, but he already headed back. He did come back, and he had a carry in the fourth. So it's at least something to pay attention to. Raheem Mostert is not stoppable. 18 touchdowns on the ground this year, two through the air, so 20 total. Next week is Dallas, then Baltimore. James Conner, big run against San Francisco, ended up 14 for 86, got back into the end zone.

Two good weeks for Conner. Not sure how you feel about him on the road against Chicago next week I I feel probably about the same if not better than I would feel about him against San Francisco and their great defense if if he's going to be on the field and getting the carries and the opportunities he's looking he looks really really good so I know Chicago's run defense has been great but it would be very hard to bench james connor after back-to-back beastly performance i'm i'm terrified yeah i mean you played under under 50 of snaps so at least with him in singletary i'm definitely going to lean the

singletary yeah i don't understand what the cardinals are doing on offense uh it's called michael carter he is there to disrupt what your plans were and d marcado why are we not using james connor as a pass catcher yeah both those guys are getting a lot of snaps it's absurd zamir white 17 for 69 and a touchdown on thursday nice spot start yeah that worked out uh quick break back with some white outs Whiteouts. Well, let's start with the players you started and hoped for good things. Jalen Waddell, 8 for 142 and a touchdown with the surprise absence of Tyreek Hill. Against the Jets.

Yeah, he murdered him. Cooper Cupp, 8 for 111 and a touchdown. Amon Ross, 7 for 112 and a touchdown. Those three players were your studs that you played and you hoped for a big game from. And Debo. And Debo. Although he started hot, didn't really do much. Oh, he did score twice. Yeah, two touchdowns.

He got four. It's not fair. He doesn't get enough volume to be as good as he is. He got four receptions and two touchdowns. Well, Debo's been on such a run right now. He's been a top 10 wide receiver four consecutive games. Would you say he's on a heater? I think you could say that, Mike, yes.

Okay. He's also had a rushing touchdown and three of four. He's had five receiving touchdowns in that stretch. I mean, he's on that four games. He's on pace for like 33 touchdowns. So that's where he's at. He's on a heater, Mike. Rashi Rice, nine for 91 in a touchdown.

Devontae Adams had the big game. The players that you didn't start that had big games. Or maybe you got backed into. Like Jordan Addison. Goodness gracious. He was great. Two touchdowns. 111 yards, and this is the first time we've seen him with Mullins.

I don't know if – Oh, Mullins looked awful. Yeah. Jason and I argued about Curtis CMO versus Terry McLaurin. They were both great starts. I don't even know who had more fantasy points, but McLaurin. They were both great starts. I don't even know who had more fantasy points, but McLaurin was six for 141 and a touchdown.

Every single time that they put Jacoby Brissett into the game, all Brissett did was stare down McLaurin and throw him the ball deep, except for the touchdown pass he threw to Curtis CMO. And McLaurin had a one-hander that he barely missed, too. That would have been another 30 yards to his total. Curtis Samuel had five for 41 and two touchdowns, so three touchdowns between them. It was wild. The game kind of just prolonged.

It just kept going. It seemed like the Rams had it under control. They did come out and say Sam Hill's the starter. They did kept going. It seemed like the Rams had it under control. They did come out and say Sam Howell's the starter. They did? Yes. You're sad because of Terry McLaurin, is that why? I'm sad for everybody else on the Washington commander team. Jacoby gets it done.

I feel slightly validated because I poo-pooed on Sam Howell this week, and he poo-pooed all over his pants. But it should be Brissette but who can't i mean they play the jets next week it should be are you gonna play terry mclaurin or curtis samuel with confidence against the jets of course not yeah i i played i played someone this week that had tons of injuries it wasn't a fair fight they got backed into two starts that they never wanted to make jacoby myers and curtis Sam on those guys had four touchdowns. Cooper Cup, like I said, had a big

game. Puka did not. Godwin 10 for 155 out of nowhere. Yeah, hurt all week. You weren't supposed to be there. He hasn't done this all week. I mean all year. Jason? Noah Brown.

8 for 81 and a touchdown with Case Keenum after two gooses. It was a nice matchup against Tennessee, and you hoped that the goose got loose. Well, you hoped that the first goose was because he was coming back from injury, and the second goose was because he was playing against the Jets secondary that doesn't give up much in the rain where C.J. Stroud got injured. So what are you doing next week? Because you imagine – It's Cleveland.

That's tough. It's Cleveland. It's Stroud probably. Let's say you've got Stroud and you don't have Nico. Yes. If I have no Nico, no Tank Dell, I'm playing Noah Brown. I'm fine with that. They're at home.

It's not like Cleveland's going to give up nothing. Which Nico was pushing to play. I don't know if the reports of the morning. Don't push off his calf. Just saying, he was out there warming up. He could be ready to go. Sam Laporta. Six targets, three touchdowns.

He's on the cusp. Is this? He's on the cusp of being the number one tight end as a rookie. He's the number one tight end. Right now, on the course of the season. Did you look it up in our player stats? Yeah. I thought he was, I didn't think he was there yet.

Right now, in half PPR, he is the tight end one on the season. So Travis Kelsey is about, Travis Kelsey is at 162.9. And Laporta's at 169.7. Very nice. Yeah, Kelsey has one fewer game played. That's, I guess, what I was looking at. He's slightly higher in points per game than Laporta. I mean, it's like neck and neck. Like, who would you rather start next week, Sam Laporta or Travis Kelsey?

Hmm, man. Kelsey got banged up at the very, very end of that game. It's worth paying attention to this week. I think he was, like, grabbing his knee, but it was right at the very very end of that game it's worth paying attention to this week um i think he was like grabbing his knee but it was right at the end so it wasn't like he exited the game uh so we'll we'll have to monitor that but it was one of those things where it's like you know we benched trey mcbride in our champ champ champ because we got kelsey right you know you you don't bench kelsey here He's Travis Kelsey. But then it's like, oh, man, should you be – if you've got these other great options?

In points per game, let me just give you this for perspective because I think this is a huge discussion. Last eight games. Here's your tight end list. Okay, last eight games. Points per game. Points per game. Number one, Sam Laporta.

Okay. Number two. Oh, it's T. David Njoku. T. T. Number one, Sam Laporta. Okay. Number two. Oh, it's David Njoku. T. McBee. T. McBee, baby. Oh, yeah. Okay. T. McBride.

Yeah, I would say Njoku could have been. Number three is tied, Hawkinson and Kittle. Wow. Hawkinson. Number four then, or number five, I mean, is Njoku. Then it goes Ingram. Then it goes Ferguson. Then it goes Komet.

Wow. Here we are. Wow. Travis Kelsey, number nine goes Ferguson, then it goes Komet. Wow. Here we are. Wow. Travis Kelsey, number nine. It's because it's touchdowns. Just ahead of Dalton Schultz. Let's see. Travis Kelsey.

That's one touchdown in that last eight weeks. I mean, Kelsey has five touchdowns on the year. Yep. With three weeks left. That's unexpected. He's got one more than Jimmy Graham. Oh, my goodness. He's got one more than Jimmy Graham. Oh, my goodness. He's got one more than Jimmy Graham.

Yeah, Jimmy Graham, I think they were saying he has eight receptions on the year and four of them are touchdowns. Foot Clan, let me know if you can find whether Jason and I agreed to that bet again before the season. I need to know how much money Jason owes me. I can't remember. I can't remember if we re-upped the bet. Does Disley have any touchdowns? No. Is he playing? Yeah. I can't remember. I can't remember if we re-upped the bet. Does Disley have any touchdowns?

No. Is he playing? Yeah. I mean, sort of. All right. Moving into the tight end position, Laporta, like we said, three touchdowns. David Njoku, 14 more targets. I had a game where I was facing Flacco, and I played Cooper,

and I played Njoku. That worked out. I was facing Flacco, and I played Cooper, and I played Njoku. And it was like – That worked out. You know, that's a hard situation because you're, like, not rooting for the opponent's quarterback to do well, but you are rooting for him to do well only to your guys. And I think those two guys in our league, in a half point, outscored Joe Flacco by, like, 15.

Oh, yeah. So it was perfect. They crushed. I mean, that is – those are the two players that he's looking for, and that's it. I mean, I wonder what the percentage of his targets were that went to those two guys. That late Cooper touchdown was delicious. We talked about it. Like, I made a big trade deadline trade, and I snuck David Njoku into the trade.

And I was saying, I think this might be the key of the entire trade at the time because his tight end schedule is something, Jason, you look into and you look at as a huge indicator if a team can defend the tight end position. Njoku's is the best, and it was the best from the trade deadline. He's the tight end two in two straight weeks. He's averaging nine targets a game, and Joe Flacco is willing to throw the football and bring him. He brought him back to victory again, and he threw three picks.

He's a wild man. Ugly picks. Ugly. Ha, like what are you doing? I was watching Stefanski, right, their head coach, and I'm watching him in the press conference after the game, and I'm going to Jason. I go, he looks a lot like Joe Flacco.

Then you look up his age. They're two years apart. They might as well be brothers. They look like they're brothers. They're a gray beard combo. Kyle, someone did a face meld of the two, and it just looks like Stefanski. Really?

Yeah. I think there was something out there. Looks like both of them. Hunter Henry, our Scotty Fish champion of the century. He did leave with a knee injury. Scored again. Nine targets for Henry. McBride.

Yes. 10 for 102. 10 for 102 against San Francisco, who's good at stopping the tight end. And he missed some time. The guy was clearly hurting. He is. He's hulking out right now. He's the only guy.

He's the only player on the Arizona offense who can do anything. Jason said, does Kyler suck? And I said, I don't know, man. I'm like, the line sucks. The backfield sucks. Other than Connor, who plays half the snaps. There are no wideouts. Yeah, no one can get open. And's trey mcbride just ripping the ball out of the air he had a catch in that game that was a complete overthrow i mean he was just it was air mailed and he went

up and grabbed this thing from the heavens came down with that ball, broke the tackle, and just did the Hulk scream on the sideline. He is really awesome. I think people are buying it now, but it's real, and it's going to last. He is one of those freak type of human beings. Tucker Kraft scored as well for 57 for the Packers. And that's it for the studs. Thanks to NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV for sponsoring this segment.

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Okay. It's one of mine. That was our dud section. So let's turn this prescriptive. Okay. If they dudded, if they laid an egg in thy pants, we discuss whether they'll have a clean pair of drawers for next week. All right?

All right. Dak Prescott, Things went sideways quickly. The Bills ran the ball. They basically evaporated quarters. Yeah. I mean, Josh Allen. Six attempts. Did not do very much.

Or sorry, six completions into the fourth quarter for Josh Allen. Yeah. He didn't need to. And the question is, like, next week at Miami, great matchup, right? High scoring affair. But you kind of thought that about the Buffalo Bills. If you're the Miami Dolphins and you just watch the drubbing beatdown that the Bills gave, it was so clear and obvious what the game plan was.

You don't have to be a football mind to look at what they did and go oh oh okay so you just run it every play and you can we should do that you can beat the tar out of them and if if there's a team set up to be able to just run successfully I mean so long as a chance toe issue is fine between Mostert and A-chan could they just employ this same strategy and just keep Dallas off the field? They can try, but, I mean, Dallas is committed to one thing in this league, and that is lopsided performances on either side of them. I mean, they either dominate. Give up the early lead.

Call it off. Let them win. I mean, think about the Arizona game, right? Like all of a sudden they were dominating the first two weeks. Now this is two straight duds for Dak. Mike, do you have concern with the Miami matchup? No. If I have Dak, I'll go right back to him.

Sam Howell was replaced. He went 11 for 26. That might be a record. Yeah, and if you want to talk prescriptive, you've got the Jets and the Niners as his next two matchups. Bye-bye. So, you're done with the Howell experiment. That was a fun run.

Justin Fields was not excited about this matchup against Cleveland. 19 for 40. Two Hail Mary interceptions. Didn't run the ball well. Fumbled twice. Threw for under 175 yards. But Mooney almost caught it. He was obviously not good.

But it's such a shame that he goes down with two interceptions. Like, he didn't throw an interception in this game. He threw a Hail Mary at the end of the half. Okay, it got picked. He threw a Hail Mary at the end of the game, which should have been caught for a touchdown. That's a quarterback penalty for not being in a competitive game. Sure, yeah.

That's what it's called. But even like the first half, that's not that you're not in a competitive game. And actually, I would argue that if you're throwing a Hail Mary, then you're in a competitive game. It's a chance to win. Like, he would have won the game. Would he have gotten credit for the touchdown if Mooney caught it? Yeah.

Okay, then we count the interception. I know. I'm just saying it's like, you know Then we count the interception. I know. I'm just saying it's like... You know what I'm saying. I feel like those should... It feels unfair. Tip passes sometimes do. Kyler Murray? Prescriptively of Fields.

I'm playing Fields this next week against Arizona. Yeah. We move forward. Thank you. Kyler though. Kyler was a... He was at three fancy points until his little throwaway drive at the end of the game. He can't do it with this group. And I don't know, man.

The Cardinals – the Carolina won. Now I want the Cardinals to have the number one pick again. And I don't know. I am – what is it? Prisoner of the moment. I really am with Kyler. Yeah, I am. Sometimes I watch him and I'm like, I'm done.

I don't want to watch him anymore. I'm more concerned about Kyler than I am about Fields for fantasy purposes. Ironically, this next week, they play each other. I will play Fields over Kyler in that same matchup. Fields is at home. The Cardinals' defense is worse. Chicago's defense is getting much better. That's an easy one. And you've got DJ Moore. Kyler versus

the Jake Browning, that's a different discussion. Those are when you start to just... Kyler Murray's not been... He's been bad. Yeah. That's the word for it, isn't it? 11 fantasy points, 13, 20, 21, 17. I don't think he has a receiver that can catch a touchdown, man.

How many multi-touchdown games does he have so far? Kyler? Yeah. Now, does rushing count? No. Then none? None. None through the air. I mean, what is that? Four games? Five games? Five games. Four passing touchdowns, three rushing.

It's a scary start, let's say that. Running backs, boy, there were some big names and big dumps oh we had fun with derrick henry and he's laying on the couch we knew derrick henry had a dud i ask him i go hey derrick henry had 16 carries in this game how many yards did he have and andy starts at like 35. I knew where you were going, so I'm like, I'll start at like 30. Like lower, lower, lower, lower. And he just kept going.

And he couldn't get all the way down to, he had nine yards on 16 carries. He had four receptions, not targets. Four catches. He got a yard. Shout out to Ryan McDowell. He shared this. Derrick Henry is the first player in NFL history to have at least 20 touches in a game and produce less than 15 total yards from scrimmage.

It's impossible. Amazing work. Well, and it was against the Texans. It's historically bad. Who, you know. That used to be the against the Texans. It's historically bad. Who, you know. That used to be the. That's Derrick Henry's matchup. Now, there was no snow on the ground in Vermont.

Yeah, I was going to say. Dry, hot. I think it was rainy, but there's no snow. But listen, Bijon, Henry, Barkley, A-Chan, Brees Hall, Pollard, ETN. Wow. So, I am reading you a list of players that got you to the playoffs. How many of those are you actually concerned about for next week? Matchups.

Bijan plays Indianapolis. Derek Henry, Seattle. Barkley, Philly. A-chan, Denver. Or I'm sorry, Dallas. Brees Hall, Washington. Pollard, Miami. There's not one of these players that you're not going to start.

The one that I would be concerned about, I do think Etienne has had a stretch of bad games where if he's not getting touchdowns, he's not been efficient this year. He might have Beathard. Yeah, we don't know if Lawrence will go through the concussion protocol quickly or not, but either way, Etienne hasn't actually been good this year. He has been good for fantasy because he's scored so many touchdowns.

And he does get volume. And pass catching. But he's been very, very ineffective. At least four catches every game. He's been very ineffective on the ground and he's playing against the Buccaneers. And I know end ofseason ranks can be misleading, which is why we produce our Truth series,

the truth about how players got where they are as soon as the regular season is over. Do you know where Travis Etienne currently resides? I do. He's number three. And I disagree with the contention that he's not been good. Okay. I agree with the contention he's not not been good okay i agree with the contention

he's not being efficient i i think travis etn is an excellent player you know you you can't put up that level of touchdowns and effectiveness in the red zone and catch that many passes like i i think that he's done a lot this year to impress it's just when he's not scoring lately it's been a problem. I mean, if you had him, he carried you. Yeah. I mean, he was like the RB1 through the first eight weeks. Yes, in the beginning of the season. Well, he had that stretch run.

And the matchups have been tough. I mean, you got Cleveland-Baltimore the last two weeks. He had that stretch run where every single week he had two touchdowns, and it was glorious. But, like, I have ETM, right? My dynasty team that was set to be a bi-week team and now is glorious. But, like, I have ETN, right? My dynasty team that was set to be a bye week team and now is about to exit, a large part of that is ETN. Do you think that –

Since the bye week, since week 10. He's played poorly, though. I do. Like when you watch him. When I watch him, I don't think he's played like – I don't think Travis ETN sucks. I don't think he's a like – I don't think Travis Etienne sucks. I don't think he's a bad player. None of that.

But he doesn't get – he leaves stuff on the field. He has not looked special to me. He hasn't looked – he's looked like a volume play, and they use him around the goal line, and he gets receptions, and that's fine. So then do you think he's a dynasty trade? Yeah, I mean, this offseason – If he finishes at three, you could trade him for whatever you want. Yeah, I would be happy to do that.

Since week 10, so since their bye week, which is a good stretch, that's six weeks, he's been the running back 18. And so it's like that's not murdering you, but that's not, you know, you talk about he's the running back three on the course of the season. He's, you know, behind Brees Hall, behind Bijon during those yeah 42 rushing behind Chuba during that 42 rushing as a game in that stretch yeah some really brutal and then the I mean they've lost four of six you know they were winning all those games where he was scoring so like the winning side running back generally does a lot better and they lost to San Francisco and Cleveland and Baltimore.

Tampa's good on the ground. So, yeah, that's fair. I think I'm worried about Barkley, obviously, when you take on Philadelphia. Yeah. But you're not going to sit him down, right? I mean, now players you can sit down. You can think about Javante.

You can think about Najee. You can think about, I mean, those two guys had big dud weeks that you couldn't count on. What do you think about Zeke? Zeke was very disappointing, but he's still, you know, 87% of snaps. 17 opportunities. 17 opportunities, six targets. Just play him. That's kind of how I feel, too.

Single terrier Zeke, though? Then you're in a different discussion. Sure, yeah. I mean, obviously, it's who else do you have to start but we do have confirmation here a little bit of breaking news breaking news uh kyle you are you're on the microphone today i'm here jason you owe andy four hundred dollars wait yep okay i knew it wait how was this established uh on the show live i said this yeah he did i knew you did yeah see mike mike's covering for you my man mike's been covering wow wow uh to be fair i was also then the one in slack who's like

uh andy i think jason owes you money oh i take that high five back it's too late it's on my hand it's fresh um it still stings it's all right i already sent him 100 for losing a dfs i think i sent him like 100 a couple weeks ago for a bat we just have an escrow that we just passed like sometimes you have ownership of it sometimes you don't it's just like 500 dollars it swabs between people yeah never. Never actually gets spent. That's big news. Thank you, Kyle. Your commission is on the way. Thanks, Kyle. Jimmy Graham's still got opportunities, right, for the rest of the year?

Oh, man. Jimmy Graham's terrifying. You got to get out of this. Am I allowed to end this bet? I was going to say, you got to get out of this. I'm going to end this bet tomorrow. Pick which kid you don't want to go to college. Because maybe Desley gets a touchdown tonight.

I can get $100 back. Woo. Yeah. Nice. Thanks for hundred back. Ooh, nice. Thanks for the money. you have, you have received your money now. Thank you. You just did it live.

All right. Um, all right. It's, it's panic in the streets at wide receiver for Stefan digs at this point. I mean, the, the recipe for this team has been to run the football.

It is, uh, caused major issues. Digs four for 48. The game started and I was a little optimistic, but here's, yeah, he looks great. And then they decided we can just run the ball. Yeah. Here's what I will throw out.

Josh Allen completed seven passes. Stefan Diggs caught four of them. Well, do you know Gabe Davis isn't going to catch any, them. But the point being, Diggs is still the guy. The market share is outrageous. Would you ever sit him down? Stephon Diggs, not against the Chargers. Okay. I'm just saying

there might be people like Noah Brown. If Nico Collins doesn't play and it's Stroud, do you sit him down for Noah Brown? No, I would go Stephon Diggs. Devontae Adams or Diggs? I don't know Adams' matchup for next week, but that would be a matchup play.

It's Kansas City. Then I would go Diggs. Yeah, I agree with that. Diggs has a great matchup next week and really, if we're being honest, Diggs looked great to start that game. When they were throwing the ball, it was to Diggs, and he made great receptions.

There was nothing on film that said, like, there's a problem here. What happened is what we already discussed. They were like, we're going to run the ball 110% of the time and keep Dallas off the field. They can't stop the run, and so they didn't need to throw, and so it sucks. But that has been a multi-week thing with Cook, right? He he's been a top he's been the best running back for four weeks at the expense of dig digs for four weeks right so i guess if they if they like the recipe i think

maybe the ceiling goes away possibly i mean if they're able to run the ball effectively and just annihilate their opponent that way then yeah yeah, obviously Diggs is going to take a hit. If you look at the Chargers matchup coming up, because the Cowboys, they're great against wide receivers. They've got a good secondary, good pass rush, but they're not great against the run, whereas the Chargers, their secondary's terrible.

They're not great against the... They're not a great against anything. It could get out of hand pretty quick, though. That's a good point. Yeah. Brandon Ayuk, for the first time in a long time. Five targets, three for 37. Honestly?

Purdy missed him on a deep shot. Purdy just missed him on a couple of deep touchdowns. He did. Pukunukuwa, five for 50. This is another reason I lost in our DFS. I pivoted from McCaffrey and Cup in a lineup and switched over to Bijan

Robinson and Puka Nakua. What did Bijan score officially in DraftKings? Negative 100. Was he negative on there too? I don't think he was negative. I think he had like half a point or something. DJ Moore down game against Cleveland. Hopkins, nine targets, inexplicable drops.

It was weird. Bombs that he caught. And then you should have seen the play, Mike. Did you see the 42-yarder where he got up and he's in the middle of the field? And the first thing he does is, and if you're watching on YouTube, he does the reception. To the ref. I caught it, I caught it. So most players, when they catch the ball, they don't get up and say,

I caught it. No. And then he starts going like this real quiet. He goes, he starts, he does the finger thing where it's like, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. It was like a thief that was caught red-handed. Diggs did it too yesterday where Diggs had a ball, and then he goes, hurry up. I know I didn't catch that.iggs had a ball and then he goes, hurry up.

I know I didn't catch that. We're going to need to get this snap off quick. I still think teams don't know how to get up and snap the ball fast enough. I 100% agree. There needs to be a code word. Pineapple. Pineapple. Yes.

And then they just go snap it. I don't care. Spike it. Spike the ball. It is 100. If you get a huge chunk play and you're not 100 certain go make force them to throw the challenge flag who cares but you also need to have a secondary code word right if pineapple's the code word to go they need to start implementing

orange and orange means run up to the line like you're going to snap the ball to make that coach throw that flag. Oh, like a fake one? Yeah, like I know I caught this. Orange, orange. Orange should probably be the trying to get away with it thing for OJ. Oh my goodness. What? A good murder joke. Is it an OJ Simpson joke?

Yeah. Is it OJ Simpson? Football? Boston. Get away with it? Y'all liked it. just i mean i didn't hate it mike's more flabbergasted but you know what it's more of a what year is it and we're making oj jokes if i asked you to think about someone that got away with murder who do you think about yeah yeah yeah that's that's all my brain was doing i was like trying to figure a code word out update Update, just because I was curious. Bijan in full PPR DraftKings scoring was 1.4 fantasy points. Yeah, not enough for me to not send you guys money.

All right. Garrett Wilson, 3 for 29. That was an extended. Yeah. And you got Washington next week week so it should be good but who's your who's your quarterback doesn't matter just playing yeah watkins or i'm sorry wilson or hopkins i combine them into watch kids um deandre hopkins or garrett wilson i'm gonna go with garrett wilson hopkins may have ryan tannahill i mean, Hopkins had 14-14 and nine targets the last three weeks,

but this was tough. You're going Wilson against Washington. Correct. Hopkins takes on Seattle. Do you agree with him, Mike? I think I lean Wilson, yeah. Drake London, two for 24. Revenge of the Sith.

Yeah. Adam Thielen, four for 43. Oh, no. Next week, I have to decide whether to play Adam Thielen. I'm so tired. Or Demario Douglas. Hey, you won the game, though, man. I know, but I partied.

That's why I'm tired. Are you out until, like, 9 p.m.? 7.30. Okay. Do you eat out of Luby's? Oh, it's delicious. Mike, this voice is getting retired with the boom-boom kicker at the end of the year. Says you.

Calvin Ridley, 12 targets, 5 for 39, keeping Jason alive. 12 targets? Jason's matchup, he's dead if Calvin Ridley catches any of the other seven targets. And you had the touchdown that Terry, who's the referee that they have on the broadcast? Oh, Terry McCullough. Yeah, Terry McCullough. Did you watch that, Mike? Yeah.

I mean, Terry McCullough was positive. He was an idiot. That this was a touchdown. I mean, he was so dumb. And he was so emphatic. He's like, it's clear and obvious. I'm like, it is the definition of not clear and obvious. I enjoy the refs.

They have a way different perspective than we have. But for the sake of those guys, just have the call happen, and then they get on afterwards and be like, this is probably what the refs saw. And you can ask, do you agree with it or do you not agree with it? That's fine. But to have them on there making the call before the refs do it, there's nothing to gain.

If you're correct, good. You're supposed to get it right. You were a head official at one point. If you're wrong, you look real dumb. Well, and then they're never going to say, oh, I was dumb. They're going to be like, they got it wrong. Well, and then he's like, I talked to the league and I just disagree. And then like five minutes later, he goes, I talked to the league again.

And I just disagree. Who is the league? Who is he talking to? I think he's talking to the replay office that made the call. I think Terry has money on Calvin Ridley touchdowns. It was like, by the time he finished bobbling that ball, his cheek and his back foot was out of bounds. At least it was close enough where you could not tell for sure. It was called on the field, not a catch.

You and I agreed completely that it was the call on the field I was going to stand. I used the words in Slack that it wasn't clear and obvious. And moments later, he goes, clear and obvious touchdown. And I was like, come on. Well, do we have to talk about these two? Oh, my gosh, man. You know, this is why I said you don't look at Lamar Jackson the way you look at the one-week Gabe Davis window.

It wasn't a big game for Jackson. It wasn't a game at all for Zay Flowers and Odell Beckham. It was a catastrophe for both those players. Lamar's at least sitting at QB 9 on the week. I mean, QB scoring was not great. He's QB 9 with 18.5 points right now. It's the Flowers

and Beckham against that Jacksonville secondary. The fact that we had no targets for Flowers in the first half. I guess one of them counted as a second target, but he caught one for seven yards. Beckham had one for 14. It was...

A little bit of weather. Yeah, which I get, but it's... Zay Flowers, you've been using him close to the line of scrimmage for tons and tons of games. Flowers don't hold up under the weather. Yeah. And it's winter. Yeah.

But, I mean, Beckham had one catch. He got missed on another potential touchdown. Oh, no, that was Bateman, actually. It was. San Francisco in San Francisco next week. I don't got confidence. No. Travis Kelsey, 5 for 28.

George Kittle, 2 for 54. Dalton Kincaid, goose. Dawson Knox, goose. Evan Ingram, 4 for 28. Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill was coming off of an injury, but you kind of hoped for more. You thought his floor would be higher with Olave out, maybe catch a few passes, but he did nothing.

Breaking news. Yes. Yes. I feel like I told you guys this was coming yes get ready for what you want mason rudolph taking over oh yeah yes saturday game against the bangles yeah grab the bangles d yes mason rudolph oh man for christmas oh rudolph on christmas yeah Yes. Mason Rudolph. Oh man. For Christmas. Oh, Rudolph on Christmas. Yeah. Pretty great. Just makes too much sense. Tremendous. Yeah. Thank you guys. I'm not saying that Mr. Biskey is the answer or even good. All I want for Christmas is the Bengals defense. Is that the,

but the Steelers fans clamoring for Mason Rudolph. Oh, you got it. We'll see. Congrats. This is a full-on Jets situation. It's like it doesn't matter who the starter is. Your offense sucks. I know what's in your stocking. It's Cole. Deontay Johnson and George Pickens now don't block. I mean, you see Pickens just – Oh, my gosh, yes.

Pickens cost him a touchdown. He's like, yeah, I'm out on this play. I mean, it is pathetic. Not what you expect from a Tomlin team. No, no. And maybe defending them so much. I mean, he, I don't know. Mike Tomlin's great.

He's trying. He's great, but like he defended Brown for so long, and he defended Pickens, and he defended Claypool, and he defended Deontay. Well, when you're defending Antonio Brown at the time, you're defending the best wide receiver in the league for multiple years. Yeah. I would defend him too.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Anything else, Brooksie? Any other news? No, sir. Back with Waiver Show tomorrow. Good luck in your games tonight. Hopefully you made it through the onslaught of disappointments

and the rest of your team held you up. So good luck tonight. Catch you tomorrow. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers.