Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 17 Championship Matchups + Wheel of Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/26

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Dec 26, 2025. Championship Week is underway! Matchup previews for the rest of Week 17 on today’s show! Start/sit advice, injury updates for Sunday games & Monday Night Foot...ball. Plus, Christmas Day football reactions and the Wheel of SHAME! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(08:05) Footclan Friday(10:30) NFL News(14:55) Fantasy Forecast(15:05) Cardinals at Bengals(20:05) Steelers at Browns(22:55) Saints at Titans(28:55) Jaguars at Colts(36:55) Buccaneers at Dolphins(40:55) Patriots at Jets(47:30) Seahawks at Panthers(53:15) Giants at Raiders(56:05) Eagles at Bills(58:55) Bears at 49ers(01:05:20) Rams at Falcons(01:08:55) Fantasy Faceoff + Wheel of ShameConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Friday, December 26th, 2025. It's the one day that, the one day of five that we don't have football consecutively. But we're here with you. It is championship week. We did not want to miss the opportunity to get you prepped up. You know, with amazing advice like Chris Rodriguez started the week.
Starting point is 00:00:54 That kind of amazing advice. To be fair, Rod. To be fair. his it was great advice again because the matchup was perfect and you called that and Bill Bill went crazy I mean this is this is the second time in the season in which on the start of the week episode Chris Rodriguez is totally fine and playing and then this time this was bad news I mean I had I was when the news broke that he was out with an illness I mean I posted that immediately. And I have
Starting point is 00:01:26 not a couple. I have like tens and tens of people that just didn't get to make the change. Because of Christmas morning. They were opening presents. They were with the family. This is why Christmas morning should not be playing football. And so people didn't even get to pivot. And this was not like,
Starting point is 00:01:42 oh, you've been limited in practice. This was he woke up with the sniffles. Yeah, you got sick and you're out. Also, I almost made this joke like a week ago. I feel like no one ever misses the game due to illness. It's like illness. Oh, they woke up. And then they always just they hydrate up. They get an IV and they go out there and they play it. And then it's like,
Starting point is 00:02:03 when I saw that this was an illness as his like, oh, he didn't participate. He's, you know, he's got an illness. I'm like, whatever. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. And then it's like, oh, no. Okay. Tommy hers. Sorry. That's, well, look, for a guy. For a guy so upset about never getting any opportunities, he sure does miss a lot of games he's going to be the starter for. that was super upsetting and both times that he's missed JCM had big weeks and 105 yards two touchdowns on only 11 carries yeah one was 72 yards away that was pretty awesome so here we are we've got 10 games to cover
Starting point is 00:02:38 we've got Monday night football the Thursday games or really the Thursday Saturday games we covered on the last show the Christmas games were very odd for fantasy football football. And I think overall, pretty devastating. Yeah. Like, George and C.D. Lamb. Nothing special. 78 yards for George,
Starting point is 00:03:02 46 for Cedley Lamb. Dack. DEC was good. DEC was good. DEC ended up good, but Dac also missed C.D. Lamb. Two walk-in touchdowns. He just missed. Yeah, 19 for 37. He missed some guys.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And then Javante would have had 10 million points. It starts off just so hot. Gets knocked out. Jeremy, the matchup for Dynasty, if you want to know that it's Mike's year, which we've been talking about for the last couple of weeks, whatever voodoo black magic he's using, you go into this. Blood sacrifice, but go on. Yeah, oh, that's right. So you're out of children now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:37 No personal problem. Merry Christmas. I saved so much money yesterday. He opened their presence. In the battle between Owl and Mike in the main dynasty league, Mike is going in with Citi Lamb and George Pickens. got the Cowboys receiver stack. And on the other side, total anti-correlation, Jeremy has Giovante Williams. So it's like, oh my gosh. Then early in the game, Javante touchdown. Terrible for you. You don't want the Cowboys to get up. Then like the next drive that the Cowboys have the ball
Starting point is 00:04:09 is a whatever it was, like 90-yard touchdown. Turpin, 86-yard touchdown. So it takes away a drive from your two wide receivers. It puts them up in the driver's seat to just run the ball. It is perfection and then Mike goes uh-huh well come here my last child and then next thing you know Javante Williams does not come back in he never came back in after the touchdown he was 13 for 54 and after he left Malik Davis went 20 for 103 who is who is a worst player give that I mean this should have been 30 for 150 and probably two for Chavonte but Mike has no more children so he also didn't get very many points pickens and lamb
Starting point is 00:04:51 my guys. We're fine. Terry McCorn 5 for 63. We already talked about the JCP situation. Then in the the Lions game, I mean, Jemir Gibbs, man. Let's not call it that. That's not in the Vikings game. Thank you. Brosmer domination. Nine for 16 for 51 yards, took 48 yards in sacks. And he won the game. A net three yards for Max Brosmer, which was an embarrassment. Jefferson, awful.
Starting point is 00:05:16 They kept showing this man's family. Yeah. And it was like, He had as many sacks as family members there. You're like, stop, stop, stop. They won. You leave proud. You leave. You, yes. Bros.
Starting point is 00:05:32 You leave. You leave and when, I mean, like, how do you even talk to your kid after that? You're like, how do you say when you manage the game? Brosmer won the game. By two scores. Yeah. And, you know, Amon Ra was fine but not great. Jameson Williams.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And left at the end. with a knee injury, like a couple of plays left in the game, so we'll have to get news on that. The Jemir Gibbs story is one of destroying your season. The last two weeks. If he didn't knock you out last week, he knocked you out this week. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Really, everyone in that, because there's no way you were playing Jordan Addison. I mean, maybe super deep leagues. And then you got that one 65-yard carry for a touchdown. Aaron Jones, I guess, was okay. Yeah, everybody else, I mean, just Jameson Williams, for 37, Jefferson, four for 30. Hey, now, Jefferson had 58% of the team's receiving yards. That's a great number.
Starting point is 00:06:31 In the Broncos Chiefs game, Broncos, as they always do, barely win. Against teams with bad quarterbacks. Who had 66 yards passing. So you had, you had quarterbacks with 51 and 66 yards passing. And honestly, Bonnick's terrible. 26 for 38 for 182 there was a point in this game where he had 23 completions for I mean the yards per completion was terrible Sutton dropped two touchdowns RJ Harvey he saved you at the late
Starting point is 00:07:02 touchdown yeah Harvey Harvey was the only good play but that's it I mean there's the only good play and for both teams in that game so maybe when Jason tweeted he hates Christmas football I had a little bit to do with also the games being awful yeah I want Christmas back but it's okay it's not going to happen and we move on. Yeah, we talked about this right before the show. I'm fine with football Christmas or Christmas football, but Christmas Football.com. But I would love it if it was just a game. You know what I mean? Christmas night. Big game. I assume Christmas is Friday next year. It is. So there will be a game. Yeah, there will be. And it'll probably just be the one. Wasn't it
Starting point is 00:07:42 won last year? I don't remember things beyond two weeks ago. Because last year was the first Netflix football and I maybe there was two I would just say maybe this will be the new Maddenkurs look at the game
Starting point is 00:07:55 schedule by Netflix and those are the you'll avoid those players in your draft that's it that's it's our final Friday put clan Friday I like this name
Starting point is 00:08:14 yeah I was shaking my head because I feel like... I feel like they pick out names just to mess with me. Wow, weasel. $100 gift card to Fantasychamps.com goes to Wahweasles. If you are not Wahweasles, remember, fantasychamps.com when you get your championships this week.
Starting point is 00:08:34 What code do I need you? You can use the code, ballers to save some money. I'm going to need it. Oh, okay. This is a personal request. I'm going to need it. Oh, man. It's so true.
Starting point is 00:08:44 It sucks. Is this show over? A real champ doesn't use a coupon. Right, right, Andy. That's right. He pays double. You want that trophy to be worth something. There needs to be a like super champ coupon that doubles the price.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Okay. Yeah, Al is. How much inventory? Al's putting his trophy up there because he wants us to remember that he's giving it away soon. I'm just keeping it warm for Mike over here. Thank you. Yeah, it's all polished up. Me and Jeremy are in a pretty much a head-to-head heads up for the dynasty league.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah, I'm coming for that one. Yeah, you're going to win by. a lot, Mike. Yeah, that's true, too. Oh, man. How much how much? There's just no inventory does fantasy champs have. Oh, my gosh. The problem in your matchup with Al that I can't overcome
Starting point is 00:09:29 is the unconscionable disparity at quarterback. Because you get Joe Burrow against the Cardinals, and he has to. He has backed into with the injuries. He has to play Justin Herbert. Oh, yes. Against Houston.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. Like, barring... Is their defense good? yeah they're real good they're real real good yeah and then it's just not if you ask Ashton gentie I was thinking about your way to win your way to win is Javante to have a big game against his Cowboys receivers what I was thinking too is that
Starting point is 00:10:04 like my team this is the rebuilding year for me in Dynasty I thought I'd never do it right the credit card bills were piling up I don't know how long we've been doing that league but I've never had a rebuilding team and I was thinking like I won't titles with Cushing McCafford. Like he is still here winning titles for people.
Starting point is 00:10:22 The giving up on McCaffrey, moving him for somebody else, it's still him. He's still winning him. He's good. He's really good. Let's talk news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance. If I had kept him, I'd be in the playoffs. That's how good he is.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah, probably. I mean, that would have happened. all right we do have a few injury updates for the Saturday games Kamani Vidal's questionable Lamar Jackson doubtful Lamar doubtful There's other stuff saying he's just not expected to play Jordan Love questionable has been limited all week I did see he had projections in prize picks
Starting point is 00:11:04 So I thought that was interesting This is why I think the Ravens announced it earlier Like hey hey Lamar's not going to play guys So Jordan you just take a break ski man there probably would be that would be strategically smart like if you knew your guy and they're like sike
Starting point is 00:11:21 we said doubtful you idiot he's in one of the giant winter coats the whole one than just rips it off they're starting to talk about trade rumors with him what? Oh man
Starting point is 00:11:34 Cardinals are interested the Lamar Jackson like they're talking about Harbaugh's tired of him can we interest you in Kyler Murray like he's 29 which is when Cam Newton's like he fell off a cliff with the athleticism obviously I think Lamar's
Starting point is 00:11:49 I mean a great quarterback it's just you know it would be smart if you were going to miss him anyways announce it as soon as possible maybe they'll be tempted to give love some time for the playoffs Josh Jacobs off the injury report and we'll start
Starting point is 00:12:03 they are still playing despite you know the jokes about maybe having an easier path to resting Jordan Love the Packers do have you know home field to play play for. And Christian Watson
Starting point is 00:12:17 who was practicing, but now he's got an illness. Did he run into Crodd? All I know is I just hear CRODA when you say that. The illness is going around this week. They are very serious. Maybe. Maybe. Trayvon Henderson listed as a limited
Starting point is 00:12:33 participant. Practice on Wednesday in a non-contact Jersey. A.J. Brown, this was shut. Come on, Hando, you're okay. A.J. Brown didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday because because he got his wisdom teeth out in the middle of the... You know, you can schedule these for whenever you want. Like the off season. Did he, were they infected?
Starting point is 00:12:51 I don't know, man. But that's just, it was crazy to be like out of the blue. It had to them. I mean, but even when you have like impacting wisdom teeth, it's like, you can't wait a month? I don't know. Maybe you can't, but... Anclon Bolden played football with a broken jaw. Just, just saying.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Well, I mean, if AJ Brown plays football, I had my wisdom teeth out. and I can tell you one week after they were out I was still struggling pretty hard AJ Brown I'm sure how many did you have four oh you got a full I had the full clip I had the full four clip I had the full four and I got the full four dry sockets oh no oh yeah guys did you guys both get you it sucks your wisdom teeth out that how many did you have
Starting point is 00:13:36 four pack I think so I was really young oh only two for Josh half is wise that math checks out I showed up and I only had one legit I so I was like man I am I must be the world's biggest baby oh because how much it hurts
Starting point is 00:13:53 because everyone says it's not a big problem like no dude this this hurt days of just like I can't do anything my mouth hurts so bad and then I and you found out and then once you go back in for the like
Starting point is 00:14:03 oh you should have came in for the things I'm like oh well at least I'm not a big baby all right George Kittle non participant we don't think we're going to see him Ricky Pearslaw limited on Wednesday and Thursday. He's always been limited. It sucks.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I do. Unfortunately, I now think of that. With Ricky Pearsall, I never expect anything. And it's so lame because it's like he's getting illegally tackled and hurt every time it happens. And shot. It's like not fair.
Starting point is 00:14:33 It's not his fault. Yeah, that one. Come on, Ricky. You talk about not calling a hip drop. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They throw a flag on the gunshot. That was news and notes
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Starting point is 00:15:07 Texans, Chargers, Ravens, Packers. Both of those were covered on the most recent episode of the show. But why talk about them again when we could talk about the Cardinals at 3 and 12 taking on the Cincinnati Bengals, who are 5 and 10? Vegas line Cincinnati minus 7 and a half. The over under is 53 and a half. The Cardinals are probably going to be without all their players. Buda Baker as well in the concussion protocol, their only good player left.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Walter Nolan, I mean, they, last week. Garrett Williams, on IR. They lost their best player on both sides of the field in Buda Baker, their best pass rusher, and their current healthy best cornerback, which was not their original. They have no defense left. I don't really understand how Cincinnati doesn't score 6,000 points in this game.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It is the NFL. I thought Denver would score 6,000 points. I thought that Detroit would care about scoring in this game. I did wonder, I mean, when it's actually. Christmas and you're at home and you've got fans and kids who this is their Christmas day like those defenses that are good defenses like there's something special to play for we talk about like the Chiefs do they have anything left to play for no for the first time ever no but you have that to play for like the offensive players don't have kids and in
Starting point is 00:16:29 presents to play for I'm well I'm saying that the offensive players for this week this year's Christmas games had backup quarterbacks they all all of the golf was that No, that game was in Washington. You're just saying home game? Yeah, I'm saying the home crowd on Christmas. A new narrative. All of the quarterbacks. Home Christmas present narrative.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah. Home Christmas present narrative for the defense. By Jason Moore. Yeah. The Cardinals. They've lost every game. Jacoby Resett has started. Good work, Jacoby.
Starting point is 00:16:59 The Bengals got the offense back on track, 309 and four last week. The question to me isn't Will Cincinnati scored their 30.5 implied point total, which is ridiculous. It's just how. will it be Chase Brown three times again? Will it be Jemar Chase back into the end zone because somehow he hasn't scored since week seven? Will it be? He's saving them up
Starting point is 00:17:20 for Mike. He's saving them up guys. Mike has been saying it over. We're getting the easiest championship of all. We're getting three Jemar Chase touchdowns. Oh man. We all know it's coming. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what this is repayment for in your life, Mike.
Starting point is 00:17:37 What you've gone through. The personal problems he removed. But, yeah, Mike's set up. Joe Burrow, Chase, yes, Higgins, yes, Brown, yes. If you wanted to mess around with Gisicki, I wouldn't even be mad at you because you might get lucky. You might get one. Arizona, pretty trashed.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Gisickey's getting three, four, five targets a week. You play Trey McBride. What do you do with the wide receivers for Arizona? I'm definitely still starting Michael Wilson. I know the Bengals have been better against wide receivers recently. Michael Wilson, he's been too good to, continue benching or to to bench. I mean, even this last week, he got the touchdown, which kind of saved his fantasy day. It wasn't great. But, you know, he's a wide receiver 22.
Starting point is 00:18:20 There's, there's been one bad game in the last six weeks. And this matchup is high implied team total. I think the question is, how confident are you in starting Marvin Harrison? Ah, man, he was very limited last week, 51% of the snaps. He's still being limited in practice because of the heel. I think he's an okay-ish play, but this isn't like... Devante Smith or Marvin Harrison? Smith.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Wondale or Marvin Harrison? Wondale takes on the Raiders. Zay Flowers with no... That one's interesting. With no Lamar or Marvin Harrison. Flowers... Flowers is still safe. Like, flowers will be...
Starting point is 00:19:01 He'll have like probably eight points. Yeah, Snoop is not going to Brosmer and finish the game with 50 yards. Michael Carter, or Michael Wilson is a top 10 question. Really? Yeah, Michael Cardner, starter for the...
Starting point is 00:19:14 Or Michael Wilson? Yes. Oh, that's an easy Michael Wilson. I say you give me Carter or Marv. I can see that, but not Michael Wilson. Yep, it's the top question right now on the flex rankings. So we're all on the Michael Wilson side of that one? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Okay. And Michael Carter is fine. 18, 13 opportunities over the past two weeks. He appears to be there a guy, I mean, 53.5.5 point over under. All right. This game should be crazy. If you are playing against Burrow and Chase, I'm sorry. You should hope that the Cardinals' offense throws like five pick sixes and ruins the office.
Starting point is 00:19:56 But what about Jacoby Brissette? I mean, play. Yeah, he's a very good play. All right. Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Pittsburgh 9 and 6, Cleveland, 3 and 12. The Vegas line here, Pittsburgh minus 6. three, the overrunners, 34.5. Lowest of the year, gross. And the lowest since Cleveland, Miami in Week 17 last year, gross. That is all five lowest overrunners of this entire season have involved the Browns and makes sense, inept offense, great defense. So we also know the Ravens game on Saturday night might impact the Steelers and who they play and how they play them and how
Starting point is 00:20:36 much they play them because if Baltimore loses that game which they probably will which I think now without Lamar in Green Bay which tells you like man Lamar must not have been able to play this is a back bruise. Now if you
Starting point is 00:20:52 watched him after the game in the locker room it was like this guy was hurting I felt like he could barely stand up and he said he got what was the shot they get? Torto. Yeah he got the total shot still couldn't play through it. Turtle shot. It's a turtle. It turns into a turtle.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Throw some light of cane on it, too. Just give me everything you got. So Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, only three-point favorites on the road. Maybe some of that expectation is baked in already. Yeah. I really love Kenneth Gainwell here with D.K. Metcalfe gone.
Starting point is 00:21:25 The matchup against the Browns. The running game has been working against the Browns and passing the ball to Kenneth Gainwell, your current leading receiver. He's running back. but he's got the most reception is on the team. It's perfect, but you have to monitor what happens with that Ravens game.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Because I could see them, I mean, this could be a game where you. Caleb Johnson could get three carries. Maybe five, Andy. I don't think that's happened. I have Jalen Warren in two championship lineups as of right now. Thinking about a pivot? Well, I'm at least preparing just in case. So I'm sure that'll come up on Sunday live.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Maybe they play a lot of Warren because Gainwell is their dude and they need to keep him fresh. That has crossed my mind. I mean, there aren't a lot of fantasy relevant players in this game. You're not starting pass catchers for Pittsburgh. And on the other side, Dylan Sampson, limited, limited might be back. But he'll share time, no question. Dylan Sampson is not a prototypical three down back.
Starting point is 00:22:25 He is a pass catcher. You'll see Raheem Sanders. You'll probably see Trayvion Williams and Dylan Sampson all mixed together. On the course of the season, the Steelers are number one against running backs. you're not playing either of them There's really there's only Harold It's Fanon and move on
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yep And that's what we're going to do We're going to go into the break Come back with the Saints Titans The New Orleans Shucks Five and Ten Taking on the 3 and 12 Titans
Starting point is 00:22:59 New Orleans minus two and a half On the road over under 39 and a half What a great opportunity for the Shuck momentum to continue right like you look at what matters for the Saints
Starting point is 00:23:12 right now and it's confidence in a quarterback for the future you know the I think he's four and three as a starter and the record of other starting rookies this year is abysmal. They currently have the eighth spot in the draft
Starting point is 00:23:28 Titans are sitting at five um Tyler Shuck has been the quarterback eight and fantasy over the last month. I believe he has started against you this week, Jason. He sure is. In listenerly. He sure is. It is irrelevant, but... It's amazing, thinking back
Starting point is 00:23:44 two months ago to the idea of starting Tyler Shuck and Fantasy much less caring about Tyler Shuck at all. And in the championship game, which it is a pretty good matchup. I mean, Tennessee gives up points to the quarterback position. Tyler Shuck has been playing well. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:00 this is a team. You remember when they started the year, um, this team had a very high pass rate over expectation, very fast pace of play. It was great for fantasy football. This is what we wanted to see. It was like we weren't getting ceiling, though. We were getting a real nice floor from the Killamore offense. Yeah, and so, but then they were like trying to, I don't know, be like, okay, we've got Spencer
Starting point is 00:24:24 Radler, how are we going to, maybe we should slow this down. Then it was a new rookie Tyler Shuck. And now I think they're opening it up and it looks great. told you guys I thought Pollard would get it done last week he's been a man on a mission he's on pay his last three games he'd be on pace for 2,000 yards and 17 touchdown
Starting point is 00:24:41 he is like oh I'm almost to contract stocks let's go he's 151 yards away from 250,000 bonus he's at over 100 yards and three straight games Tony Pollard um is fine this week you talk about the letdowns you had from Gibbs
Starting point is 00:24:57 and Monty and these other running backs Pollard, just out of nowhere, hyper-relevant. He was the most invisible, but a name that you knew, and you're like, should I play Pollard? But he was doing nothing. With plenty of work. Yes, it was madness. And now it's gone up even more.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I mean, up over 20 opportunities twice in the last three weeks. It's not a great matchup, but it's at home. And I think you just stay in the flames. This is pure NBA jam rules here. Yeah, and not that we're playing Cam Ward, but we talked about how Tyler Shuck, Cam Ward is playing much, much better. There is, we're halfway through the year with the Titans,
Starting point is 00:25:42 and it was, oh, my gosh, if we end up with the number one pick again, do we just take another quarterback? But since the coaching change, you know, Weeks 11 through 16, he's completing 64% of his passes. He's running a little bit. You can see the path now for Camboard.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yeah, I agree. Which is very exciting. A lot of people have questions around Taysam Hill and whether he's a viable play this week. They, you know, the Titans have been great against the run, but Taysam Hill does more than just run. He should be the guy that gets a goal line opportunities with basically no running backs left. I mean, Idaugestime, we thought maybe we'd have an opportunity last week.
Starting point is 00:26:26 he had a total of five attempts on the ground. He's not been good on the ground at all. Somehow he's catching two or three really bad passes a week. It seems like Taysom Hill is your break glass play this week at tight end. Yeah, I mean, it's funny because I don't think this situation's ever happened before. The two tight ends that I would look for on waivers are on the same team. It's like Juan Johnson, I think is great. He had nine targets last week, eight catches.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He's the clear number two target in this offense. Yes, 67 yards away from a quarter million dollars. So you know he's going to get him that money. Taysam Hill, though. I mean, 12 rushing attempts and four receptions, opportunities around the goal line. Like, I'm not sure which one I would want to start more, but I want to start both.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I would pick Juan Johnson. Because Tasem Hill. So would Jason. To start of the week. Yes. Well, between Juan and. Tayson is tough of like, I think there's a chance that Tayson does nothing. I think that that is a possibility. But then there's also the possibility that last week was, this is how
Starting point is 00:27:39 we're going to use him now for the remainder of the season with our injuries. He just, I don't, I don't know for sure what he's going to do. I can't imagine he doesn't have 10 opportunities on the ground, genuinely. Okay, so you're on the side of. Yeah. I just don't, I saw zero from estimate or hold that makes me think they would pivot from what they did last week. I'm curious who has like higher odds for a touchdown. I feel like Tayson Hill has more paths, whether passing one in, being the goal line back, even catching one. I know Juan Johnson's my start of the week, but I think I would actually start Tayson Hill over him. Wow. Chris Olivae has been amazing. He's the wide receiver six. Keep
Starting point is 00:28:19 playing him, especially in this matchup. And I think that covers it. I mean, if you wanted to ask a quarterback question, Tyler Shuck or Jacoby Brissette? I think I'd go Brissette. Yeah, I'm going to go Jacoby. Caleb Johnson at San Francisco, my start of the week, or Tyler Shuck? How many quarters is Caleb good?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Does he give five? Because he was great with five. I think I'd play Shuck. I'd go, Caleb. All right, Jacksonville's 11 and 4. They take on the Indianapolis Colts. By the way, by the way, game is Jacksonville minus six over under 48 and a half.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Philip Rivers is better than half of the players in football at the quarterback position. We were marveling watching these games just like, you can't find 30 people in the world to play this position professionally. And a 44-year-old
Starting point is 00:29:16 out of shape hasn't played in five years, Philip Rivers. With no arm ability to throw most NFL throws. Uncalculably. better than Max Brozmer than Oladukin. Ola Dukin! I mean, then
Starting point is 00:29:32 literally probably, I mean, then Shadur, he'd be better for that team than Shadour's. Yeah. I mean, it's insane. Like, Tom Brady could come in and beat two-thirds of the starters. Probably true. Today. I still think Brett Farr could do it, but that's the one I want to see. So to see. I hold his
Starting point is 00:29:50 Brett Farr. It's probably 53. That's my guess. I'm on it. he is 56 yeah yeah i don't think he could do it anymore but but i want to see it i don't know it's just crazy science uh j for an update juan is plus 180 tasem is plus 195 okay for a touchdown so juan just a little ahead well it's a must win game for philip rivers and the colts to have any chance of staying alive they would be eliminated if um i think if houston just wins yeah so low odds right now for the formerly seven and one colts
Starting point is 00:30:26 I believe this was the game that I said I'm really on the edge of taking the Colts as the almost upset in this one. So I guess I'll just formalize it. Andy's Almost Upset of the Week. I don't really know if the Colts Devens can do enough to slow down what's been going on with Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But being at home with everything on the line, Jacksonville coming off the Denver win, I'll give it a shot. It's a six-point gap. They don't have to win. They just got to get it closer than that six points. Jacksonville been playing outstanding. Jason, you made Trevor Lawrence your start of the week.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah, you got to stay in the flames. You want to talk NBA jam rules. This is just life rules. When someone's been as good as they've been since the by week, his last eight games, he's on pace for 36 passing touchdowns and 12 interceptions. 4,000 passing yards. He's also running the ball, 444
Starting point is 00:31:30 rushing yards, and he's got the offense moving, or maybe Liam Cohen's got the offense moving. Did you see his comments, though? He said they've changed zero of their offense or their offensive like anything they've done with Trevor. They haven't changed a thing all season long.
Starting point is 00:31:46 He's just processing faster. He's just finding his way through the offense. I thought that was interesting. The issue with Trevor Lawrence has always been putting the ball where a receiver can't catch it. That's it. Like, he'll make these amazing plays, but he's been very inconsistent with his accuracy. Recently, he's just putting the ball where they need it. And it's like, all right. He's got the tools. He's, he's athletic. He's tall. He's strong armed. He's got the weapons. Everything
Starting point is 00:32:15 is set up for him if he can just be, yeah, the hair. All sorts of things. So, I just, I always, I always, always remember thinking about the tweet that said he's got one too many horse parts. And I can't, I can't get that out of my, I can't get that out of my life. Like Trevor Lawrence to me. I 100% knew you were going to make a horse comment. Yeah. I 100% knew. You decided, oh, I shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:32:43 He's got the main. Who knows what all horse parts he has, but he's, uh, he's got a lot of them. So anyways, he's, uh, horse got rocket arm. Yeah. Yeah. He's a sound again. What do they call that? A winnie? A name? Well, no, that's not. It's neither one, right? Yeah, when they do the lips, what is that thing called? I don't know. It sounds like it should start with like a strawberry. It's a horse. It's a horse blurt. It's a horse blurt. Horsberry. Blarp. I thought our research team might be looking in it. But they're not. They don't care.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I was. Oh, were you? It says lip flapping or lip fluttering. That's what I'm here. Okay. Play Travis E.T.N. You got to bring him that better. Play Travis CETN and give me the order of your confidence in the wide receivers for Jacksonville. I have Jacobi Myers as my start of the week. Parker Washington just went crazy last week. It's hard to, it's hard to be like, hey, play Brian Thomas. But he had Pat Sertan last week. Yeah, I think it, I think it's Jacobi Thomas Washington for me.
Starting point is 00:33:46 That's how I put it too. And it feels kind of stupid. What was the name again? Is that like one person? Jacobi Thomas Washington. Yeah, yeah, famous president, right? Of course. Jacobi.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It feels stupid to have Parker, Parker Washington, third on the list. Because he's been really good for a long time, that entire, that exact same time frame after the bye week for Trevor Lawrence. I mean, he's been a top 24 wide receiver, four of his seven starts. But I agree. I mean, the best overall wide receiver is Jacoby. The highest upside big fantasy outpouring is obviously. Brian Thomas Jr. And then Parker Washington could get it done.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But I do think last week Parker Washington benefited from a great Broncos defense that kind of was focusing on the one and two and letting Parker surprise. Jonathan Taylor has not been a top 12 running back since week 10. It's a brutal matchup against Jacksonville. It's not really going to change, you know, what you're doing. It's kind of like the reason you always play John. Taylor is because of what Ashton Jinty did last week. Even when we're having a tough time, you're Jonathan Taylor, which means one play.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Which it's still been fine. Yeah, it's like he has. Jacksonville's been so good though in the last six weeks. Number one in football against running backs. Yeah, I mean, he put up 21 for 74 against them with a touchdown a couple weeks ago. Yeah. No, it's not a change your plans. It's just maybe he's not the one that carries you to the title this week.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah, correct. He helps you. Pitman, Pierce, Downs. Put them in order. I think Downs is the safest play. If you're just like, I need a floor. And then I guess I'd go Pierce if I'm trying to hit my ceiling. Michael Pittman's just in this weird limbo area in the offense with Phillip Rivers. Three for 26, four for 32 for Pittman, hasn't scored since week 12. And we have the, there's two rivers starts so far. Yeah, so, I mean, in those targets each game. Yeah, in those two, he's Michael Pittman's playing the whole game and 26 yards and 32 yards. It's not that I think Pittman is playable, but I think I prefer the other guys.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Tyler Warren is my start of the week at Tide-in. Nine targets last week with Phil. He is the most helpful offensive weapon that they have for Philip Rivers, in my opinion, with the size, short area target capability. I like Tyler Warren. I might stand alone in this group on now. I think you do. I get it.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I get it. The matchup is fine. The targets have been there nine last week, but it turned into 30 yards. You know, three for 30 with Philip Rivers, three for 19 with Phillip Rivers. I'm in the middle.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I'll still take nine targets. I would, I think it'll be better than three. I would play the Saints guys personally over, over Warren. Tampa Bay's seven and eight, but still alive. The Dolphin, six and nine.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Vegas line Tampa Bay minus six over under 45 and a half if they win their last two games Tampa Bay will win the South so they're right there despite the fact it's looked bad since week nine the by week Baker completing just 59% of his passes
Starting point is 00:37:14 going to Abuca too much Deky doesn't know how to throw well Abuca's not even in play I don't think you would even consider a Bucca on championship week. That would be crazy. Any player on any team, yes, even Turpin, right, can make a big play on any given week. But there's nothing statistically snap-wise of encouragement right now for the last six weeks. The snap for a way down. So, you know, they came out this week right away and they're like,
Starting point is 00:37:44 oh, we got to get them involved early. Mm-hmm. That was a big, that was talked about OC, head coach. That was like what they were saying, and then they give them 56% of snaps. No, I'm saying after that. But they did it before as well. No, and then they came out and said, we need to get involved. We're all trying to find the guy responsible. And again, Baker last week, we can say all we want, but he threw for 145
Starting point is 00:38:07 yards. Two weeks ago, 122 yards. That will not make any of it work for anybody. It won't make it work for Evans. It won't make it work for Godwin. It won't make it work for Abuca. The bucks are... This is weird and sad. They become... What they have become
Starting point is 00:38:23 because you have... Yeah, I'm I'm playing Mike Evans. I have no problem there. But it's like, Bucky Irving, who when I'm watching him, he looks great. He looks like Bucky Irving.
Starting point is 00:38:35 He's still getting a bunch of opportunities, except they have now gone to, like he's getting, he's getting charboned by Sean Tucker. Yeah. Sean Tucker is seemingly the goal line back. I get it on that one. That's Charbonade, huh?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah. It's like, they're like, okay thank you for your work bucky uh get out of there Sean Tucker will take it from it's a problem in the in the four games since he came back from injury he's not hit just four yards of carry in a single game he's not been the efficient explosive Bucky where we were used to prior to that injury I don't know if he's still struggling with it or if more likely because when I watch him I don't think he looks like he's physically struggling I think it's the buck's
Starting point is 00:39:19 offense I agree with that and Baker Mayfield that's just kind of taking a step down I think Baker is struggling physically, and so it hurts the whole cast. So are you saying that, you know, would you, are you going and looking at your roster genuinely if you've got a Michael Carter, or you're just playing Bucky and hoping for the best? I'm going to play Bucky. He's had a 10-plus yard run in all four of his starts. I think you still look for big play there. They're heavily favored. I wouldn't go away from him for Michael Carter, personally. No, I wouldn't even think about it.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Not to that level. Ah, man. What about Kenny Gainwell? I think that's a more fair discussion, but I'm nervous about everything in that game. Yeah, I agree with that. Low over under. How about a divisional? Tracy.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Tracy's been good against the Raiders. I think I might go with him over Bucking. I mean, I've got Bucky ahead of all of these players in my rankings. Yeah, I'll play Bucky. I think I will stick with Bucky. Devon A. Chan, play him. I'm done talking about the dolphins. That is.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I just started. That's fair. Well, that's because Ewers. I mean You're talking about an infinitely better quarterback than Max Brosmer? Yes, an infinitely better
Starting point is 00:40:31 for 260? Incredible. What about Jan Wattle? Waddle or Tett McMillan? Tett. Ladd-McConkie against Houston. Oh, that's tough. Wattle.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah. Watson versus Baltimore, Christian Watson. How's his tummy? How's his tummy and who is his quarterback? So I don't think I can not enough info to answer that right now. New England's 12
Starting point is 00:40:56 and 3. The Jets are 3 and 12. Oh, Palindrome. Vegas line New England by just 13 and a half on the road. Overrunners 42 and a half. Denver was favored by that as well. Implied point total. Yeah, but Denver always is and always freaking does that, man.
Starting point is 00:41:14 They are so annoying. Frauds! But they are, I don't think they're frauds. No, I like what you said. They play to their opponent, but that's also like can you do that in the playoffs and count on it? Maybe. I mean, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Maybe. They are, you know, teams, your identity takes shape based off of, like, something's like, oh, your coach. And it's like, Sean Payton's real annoying, right? Okay. Yeah, he's very annoying. Just Denver Broncos have adapted that. We're just an annoying team.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Okay. So you're like your coach. And people want to punch us in the face. So the Cardinals are like a. poop team. Yeah. They're number two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I'm trying to think. Yeah, the Andy Reid's teams are fun. They're always fun. He's fun. Yeah. Hmm. The Rams are cool. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:10 They're a cool team. Yeah, they're hip. They're cool. They're sexy. Let's talk about the Jets. I'm going to put this in my analysis moving forward. Well, the over anders like 10 points under, almost 10 points under the Cardinal game, but the Patriots have almost the same implied point total as the Bengals
Starting point is 00:42:26 because of the how favored they are. So New England, New York. We have some questions now. I love, on Wednesday, it's like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:36 I love Drake May in this matchup. I know they're heavily favored, but I think that they will, I think that Drake May will come through with a big game. And on top of that, like, you know, they're trying to win Drake May and MVP.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Might try and get him a little, a bonus touchdown or here. one or two of them, but you have Kashon Booty who is not practicing with a concussion. Now you have Mack Hollins. Yeah, he's not going to play. Who has not practiced all week with an abdomen injury,
Starting point is 00:43:05 even though he's very, very close to a $400,000 payday if he just gets four more catches. But it's just the lack of those guys. It's not that I'm pivoting off of Drake May. Just maybe the ceiling is not what I was
Starting point is 00:43:21 projecting on Wednesday. You can see a ton of remandre in this game because of the lack of need to throw the football. You can see a ton of consolidation. That's what's going to happen. Hunter Henry is who I like the very much. He's my tight end five on the season. I think Hunter Henry and Stefan Diggs are going to have... He's your five on the season? He's my tight in five this week. Okay. I was like, that's an impressive new stat. I didn't know we did that. But I
Starting point is 00:43:46 think there will be a consolidation of fantasy points like Drake May will spread it around, annoyingly so he'll go to the open guy, but if Kyle William, if his guys are Kyle Williams is legit worth talking about it. Yeah, I mean he would very well could be. What
Starting point is 00:44:03 you know, the volume wasn't there necessarily. He had the huge awesome touchdown catch when Booty got knocked out of that game. He was the one who actually ran the most routes of the remaining wide receivers. Diggs is four receptions from $500,000. Henry three from $500,000. They'd love to get
Starting point is 00:44:20 those guys, those marks this week. A million dollars to hand out there. Ramondra, a great start this week. Yeah. And Drake May should be 202. That's what I think. Don't expect him. I mean, he had not been really inside the top 10 for a while before this week,
Starting point is 00:44:36 despite all the wins, right? They won every game except for one against Buffalo. Quarterback 17, 11, 12, 12, 10, 13, finally got back in there at 7 last week. If he was the quarterback 14 this week, that would be about my expectation. Yeah. I think that starting the week when we thought maybe they would have more weapons available, he was a little bit higher, especially if, you know, if Trayvion doesn't go. Because Trayvon's such a, you know, he could take that screen pass for 50 yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I had him early in the week as like my quarterback two or three. Now he's more seven, eight range with guys I would play ahead of him. Romandre can take the screen past 15 yards out of bounds. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So that's also possible. He'll take the exact same amount of time. to do it though. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Break some tackles and go and then it's like the length of the play. Romney is a valuable player. The length of the play is like sexy player. Seven seconds, whether it's Hindo or Ramondre. Brady Cook. One goes a lot farther. Brady Kirk will start on the other side and that is bad news for the Jets.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Breece Hall has not only been really bad for fantasy, running back 44, 4740, but I was looking at this because it was it was one of my prize picks projections that I almost went with this week. I didn't do it. But
Starting point is 00:45:53 it was like 13 and a half yards longest rush, which normally is a bad, scary bet for Brees Hall. He's had longer runs. He hasn't done that in three weeks. He hasn't hit 13 for three weeks. Earlier this year, when they had quarterbacks under center,
Starting point is 00:46:09 you know, he had a long run of 18, 17, 23, 22, 35, 30. Now you look at the last just going back in the box score, the last week 7, 13, 11, 9, 9, 11. It's like if they don't have a quarterback there, you have one player to stop because that quarterback's not going to get the ball to Adnigh Mitchell down the field and hurt your team.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Brice Hall could do something, so you're playing everybody focus on Brise Hall. And trying to just get into the psychology a little bit of maybe just narrative, but Brice Hall, I mean, his Christmas chain, he's counting it down, he's cutting the rings off. Of he's like, freedom. Get me out. He packs a new bag every day. You think Brees Hall wants to get hurt?
Starting point is 00:46:54 No. With two weeks left and he's going to try and break the bank? I mean, he's going to make business decisions and he should. Yeah, yeah, Vegas, Cleveland, New York is the two, three, and four in the draft right now. He should get a tummy issue today. Yeah. Be like, oh, man, bad sushi guys. They were saying the Giants need to counter the Brock Bowers to IR by starting Russ.
Starting point is 00:47:17 We'll take a break We'll get into some more matchups The 12 and 3 number one seed Seattle Seahawks Are 7 point favorites Against the 8 and 7 Carolina Panthers The over under is 42 and a half It's not a lot Um
Starting point is 00:47:40 Carolina does control their own destiny, right? Yes It's wild the Seahawks do as well for their number one seat. Those control your own destiny things are so funny to me because it's like Carolina controls its own destiny, but also so does Tampa Bay. Because they play each other. It's just who wins that game.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Yep, yeah, that's fair. It's going to end up a week 18 battle. They can clinch the NFC South if they won this game. They're seven point underdogs. They've been seven and two and one. score game, Seattle, six and three. Both of these teams have been good. If they win and Tampa loses. And Tampa Bay loses. Thank you. So where are you in this one?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Rico Dowdell has been really disappointing. He has 70 yards from a million dollars. I don't think they give two farts about that right now. Because when you don't have your playoff seating secured, you don't care about that. He is. He is. He has. Been disappointing based off of an adjustment that you made mentally about him in the middle of the season. But last week against Tampa, that was horrible, 6.3 fantasy points. But before that, you know, even though he's not destroying the world, he was still getting over 10 points a
Starting point is 00:48:58 week. But the confidence to play him in this matchup against the Seahawks. Michael Carter. Michael Carter. Okay. Easy Michael Carter. This is a situation where you had a run where he was, you know, 80 plus percent of snaps, 70 plus percent of snaps. then Chuba comes back. They went right back to Chuba. Then they were like, oh, we made a mistake. We got to go back to RICO. And then they're like, oh, we made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Now it's like they're splitting. They're just splitting. And since they've been splitting, he has not been that good. He's been sub 10 most of those splits when he's down around 50% of the snaps where you expect them to be. And then you add that against a very tough opponent here. I mean, this is a matchup that you don't want to run against the Seahawks on the course of the season and in the last six weeks, they're number two against running makes.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So you tell me you get 50% of less than what Carolina usually does, I would look elsewhere. Yeah, like my dynasty squad, I'm trying to figure out my final flex position. And like Juan Johnson is in play for me. Oh, and I have RICO on that roster. It's like, no, I would play another tight end in that situation before I'm playing RICO this week. Yeah, I agree. Tetero and McMillan, currently the favorite for offensive rookie of the year. I do think it'll be interesting if he has a slow week and Tyler Shuck has a big week.
Starting point is 00:50:23 If Shuck wins at least one more game, I think that Shuck will be the rookie. His schedule on the road against Tennessee and then the last game on the road against the Falcons for Shuck, those are two winnable games. If he wins both, he's guaranteed. That'd be so awesome. Yeah. But Tetero has been good. Start sit decisions in this game, Mike, the Kenneth Walker situation from last week. Is he just setting you up to let you down?
Starting point is 00:50:51 He is a terrifying start this week because it should, it makes sense. You know, I'm not even looking at last week, the 11 for 100 against the Rams. It's just he is explosive and the Panthers are 27th against running backs on the season 28th. over the last six weeks. It's right there for Walker. If he's going to, I mean, if he scores. You're in your lineup? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:17 He is, it's between him and Joanne Johnson. Trying to figure out what I need. Who would you start between Kenneth Walker and Charbonnet? It's still Walker. Yeah. But it's like Charb's, this could be one of those stupid games where Charms, two touchdowns on eight carries. You are always playing with fire with Kenneth Walker.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yes, you are. He is an explosive player. It makes sense this week. where it didn't make sense last week and he came through. It feels a lot like Trevion and Romandre, but maybe a little bit light. Like Kenneth Walker had two 50 plus yard plays last week.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Right? He had the past catch early in the game that he almost scored on down at the three, had the long touchdown run. But if you don't get the big play from him, you know, Romandre rumbles into the end zone. Charbonnet rumbles into the end zone. If your big play doesn't end in the end zone,
Starting point is 00:52:09 you are not rewarded. Correct. You are taking out and the other guy gets it. That's right. J.S.N. Always playing him. Play him with joy in your heart. AJ Barner, a desperation play at tight end. Probably wouldn't do it in this matchup, though, even though he's been pretty good. It's a tough matchup for tight ends.
Starting point is 00:52:27 That's all you can lean on right here. And Sam Darnold, is he an option heavily favored on the road here at all? I prefer not. I think there's better options in single quarterback leagues that are available. Darnold has been really hot and cold. Yeah, red light, green light. Yeah, we're on way to a red light though. I got a laugh here.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I'm just, I saw that some waivers went through in our league of record. I'm like, oh, Mike, Daniel, the two guys going at it in the championship game. No, it was the freshly eliminated Papa Josh picking up Dylan Samson. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:53:02 What's that for? You never know, man. You never know. Judkins, I mean, when's Judkins can be ready with that bro. Yeah, I mean, dude, talk about a keeper. All right, the Giants, didn't we talk about this game enough? I guess not. The Giants are 2 and 13.
Starting point is 00:53:19 The Raiders are 2 and 13. It's a 41.5 point over under, Giants 1.5 point road favorites. Okay. These teams cannot stop the run. Their quarter, I mean, Jackson Dart, the game plan for Jackson Dart last week was basically like anybody could do what you're doing. Why do they do that? I don't, yeah, it felt like he was being punished. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:53:42 This team was way better with table. I don't care. Oh, they definitely were. They were. They haven't won a game since he's left. I, and I would not, I would not doubt that Tracy and Singletary get 30 plus opportunities this week. I mean, the recipe for this game is going to be, it's going to be gross. It's going to be a gross game.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It's going to be running back. Which sucks. Jackson Dart was. Fantastic for fantasy. I have no confidence in him this week. I agree. None. Against the soft team. He had zero fantasy points last week.
Starting point is 00:54:15 He played the whole game. 100% of snaps, zero fantasy points. Yeah, I would bail out. So I would bail out of just about everything in this game outside of Gentie and Tracy. I think Wondale is. But that scared me last week with the PPR. Yeah, I mean, obviously, if they're not letting Dart throw the ball, that's going to be bad for all the receiving options. I can't believe that they're going to go as extreme as it was last week. Because
Starting point is 00:54:43 I mean, that was the first and only game we've seen like that. They've been letting dart throw. So I don't know what their rationale was for that. Maybe it carries over. Keep them alive for next year. That's how it feels. And both of these franchises, it'll be so much better for everyone to lose. Someone's going to win. This is the dung bowl. Somebody's going to win and the other team's going to get the number one pick. So, you know, Raiders are at home? Who wins this game?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Who's Fernando Mendoza rooting for? Because Mendoza might go to the Raiders in both situations. Then he should be hoping that the Raiders lose so they don't have to trade assets to go get him. Yeah. I don't know. No pivots to Michael Mayer with no Brock Bowers? No, the Giants' defense is.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Stingy against tight ends. Yeah. Okay. Darius Slayton can eat a butt once again. Yeah. Thank you, Darius. Trey Tucker should be okay. I mean, the targets are going to have to go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:55:49 We're going to keep our eyes on Jack Bash. Hopefully he looks good as a, you know, end of rookie season, good opportunity. But you're not playing him. Trey Tucker should be the target beneficiary from having no Brock Bowers. Phillies 10 and 5 the Buffalo bills are 11 and 4 the Vegas line Buffalo minus 1 and a half
Starting point is 00:56:08 over under 43 and a half we thought Lane Johnson might come back this week he will be I don't think he's going to be back he heard Mike needs one more week of not blocking well for Seekwon since Mike's facing Sequin and then he'll come back
Starting point is 00:56:24 because it's Mike's year I would really really appreciate that Jayland Carter will be back that will impact the defensive line for Philadelphia and the production of James Cook a little bit, who leads the NFL in rushing yards. So it's not a start-sit change.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Sequin, play him. Yeah. It is a run funnel. He should be excellent this week. The bills are 32nd and rushing touchdowns allowed. 32nd in yards after contact. 31st in yards per contact or per carry allowed. So, yeah, play the running backs.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Play the quarterbacks. We got good news on Josh Allen in the foot. Nothing hindering him. He's going to be okay. Jalen hurts, though. you know is you going to have AJ Brown with the teeth if AJ Brown's out I'm probably you're willing to pivot I might be willing to pivot off of Jalen Hurts this week
Starting point is 00:57:12 I think you can run the football and I think if he's not push pushing him and just Devante Smith makes me nervous your start of the week Caleb Johnson or oh man or Hertz his name is Caleb Williams oh thank you you're thinking of your fantasy MVP yeah thank you I've I've.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Hey, shoot or shoot, would you play Caleb Williams or Jalen Hertz? I would play Caleb. Okay. That's only if AJ Brown is. That's only if AJ Brown is. If he's out.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Out. Yeah. It's hard to go away from, from hurts to that level, but I do have confidence in Caleb Williams this week. I don't have confidence on past catching or tight-end options for the bills, though. Where are you with Goddard, Jay? I think that if A.J. Brown is out. I mean, we've seen a lot of success for whoever's left when one of those three are out. So if A.J. Brown doesn't play, then I'm excited for both
Starting point is 00:58:27 Devonte Smith and Dallas Goddard. Otherwise, I mean, Goddard's just been, weirdly good, utilized around the goal line like he never has been in his entire career up until now. I never want to buy in or believe it. 10 points in three straight games. Yeah, I mean, when you're at this point in the season, your championship week, week 17, he's the tight end five on the season.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I think you just have to stay with him. Sunday night football. My start of the week, Caleb Williams, in the Chicago Bears, 11 and 4 taken on the 11 and 4, San Francisco 49ers Vegas line San Fran minus three at home over under is 52 and a half Christian
Starting point is 00:59:07 A lot of points Christian One more game More One more game And then you will have fully earned Your true entry into the footballers hall Ring of Honor
Starting point is 00:59:19 Two years ago There was a wild statistic That one more game Christian 50% If you drafted Christian McCaffrey You had a 50% chance of winding up in the championship game. That was two years ago.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I believe that that stat will be close to true again. Two years ago, he let everyone down in that championship game. Oh, yeah, you got hurt. That's why we got hurt for me. Victory is. Otherwise, I would have been a double champ. Victory is not being declared. We need one more.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Here's what's wild is if this holds up and he wins people titles this week, which the odds are in that favor. You just said 50% right? over the last six years it will be 50% of the time he wins you leagues and it will be 50 because it will be three injury plagued years and three basically
Starting point is 01:00:10 number one overall running back years which is just you got to save it up unbelievable everybody in San Francisco has been hurt this year he has siphoned all of their pack blood sacrifices for him and Mike one more game we kind of made it packed
Starting point is 01:00:30 together one more game yeah we'll do what it takes you too you decided to the bears have been good against running back i'm excited for this game sunday night football these two teams 52 and a half point over under unfortunately the recent sacrifice for cmc had to be kiddle again well yeah you you had almost nobody left he used piercel twice he used kiddle twice juan jennings your start of the week jason you got to love him in this game with piercall still banged up kiddle banged up probably not going to play. Jake Ton just would be a desperation. Play at tight in, but yeah, I mean, it's pretty straightforward
Starting point is 01:01:05 there. It's more complex on the other side. Caleb is my start of the week. I feel like I sit a little bit alone on that one as well, but I don't think he needs five quarters. I think he could do it in four. He's just so erratic. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right now his consistency on the season, he is the quarterback 11, which is like, oh, great. Caleb, he's a quarterback one this year. His consistency score is a D.
Starting point is 01:01:30 35% of his games are good. It really feels like how it was with Jordan Love last year where it was like he has big games and he can be real special, but the vast majority of games, he hurts you. Now, this matchup is good. The over under is good. You can see, I can totally see why you're making him, you know, you're calling the shot that this is a good Caleb week, but he definitely scares me from a consistency. standpoint. Oh, he's terrifying. He's terrifying. Absolutely. Philip Rivers torched this
Starting point is 01:02:02 49ers defense. So that's part of the, that's the biggest part of the bet. But, you know, Roma Duneze, probably not going to play. Luther Burden, we'll see. He's been limited. Might not play. And lack of weapons hurts. Makes it even scarier. We did get news in this game that Tom Pelliserra,
Starting point is 01:02:22 your boy, Mike. Perfect. Perfect news for you figuring out Kittle. So he has a chance to play. He's played before without practicing. We'll see if he practices today. So Tom Pellicero and Mike just pay attention. What is your pivot option at tight end? I didn't even pay attention. He went to Strange.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah, right now it's strange. So it would be, uh, the problem with decision if you ask me. Yeah. The problem of this game is it's at night. So, I mean, if you're if you're waiting on Kittal, it just sounded like the actual darkness would affect the game. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was like, they do have lights.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Okay. All right. That's all. So, being able to see with visible light not a problem, but your pivot option would they shrink drastically. Dude, if they didn't have lights, we'd be talking about phases of the moon on the show. That'd be different. A new moon game? Yeah. You'd be looking for the games
Starting point is 01:03:13 that have the brightest moon. And the game finishes zero to zero again. We really should get some lights in here. We hope to see some of the moon tomorrow. Maybe a crescent. Kyle Monongue, DeAndre Swift, fix it for me. Tell me who's going to be great. Swift. Yeah, I would still lean the swift side.
Starting point is 01:03:30 He's been banged up and was a little bit limited, but he's been the primary running back for the whole season. He's, he is what we know. He's a really, really good running back to. Is love in the air? Colston, Loveland. Big disappointment last week, despite 83% of SNAPS but didn't have the production.
Starting point is 01:03:51 No Rome, no Luther Burden. and then Colston, Loveland just disappears. Colston barely liked land. Oh, God, him. Bodied. But, yeah, are you going to go back there? He, I like the- If you had Loveland, would you play Strange over him?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Even with the, you would? Yeah, I would play strange. 49er struggle against tight ends. I would probably go see if Hunter Henry were on the waiver wire. Joanne Johnson, I would play over Loveland. in, I mean, if you look at it this way, the last seven weeks, so not a small sample, like a really long stretch, basically he's had two games in that stretch where he got a touchdown and you were happy. And every other game that he didn't get a touchdown, you are seven points,
Starting point is 01:04:38 five points, four points, eight points, four points. It's not, he is not like a possession volume receiver. Give me the camera. Give me the camera. Touchdown guarantee. Oh, wow. Touchdown guarantee. for Colston Loveland. Colson Loveland. Oh, Mr. Loveland. Yes. Well, then. I don't know what this is, but that.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I mean. That's a touchdown guarantee. That's, if you give him for sure six points on top of the 30 to 50 yards. You feel stupid now for saying strange? I do. Now that you know he's getting a touchdown. I can't. Back on track.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Back on track touchdown. Man. Andy has Bears fever. Yeah. That's goodness. That's a problem. Yeah. How could it go wrong?
Starting point is 01:05:20 the Rams. Here's your Monday night football fantasy deciding game. So if you are Stafford, Kairn, Puka, Bejohn, London, Pitts. It is a Monday night miracle you'll be looking for.
Starting point is 01:05:38 The Rams at 11 and 4, the Falcons is 6 and 9, the Rams minus 7 and a half, over under 49 and a half. The Falcons, ironically like if they get beat it helps the rams pick that's how motivated they are in this game the rams pick gets better if they beat the falcons
Starting point is 01:05:58 because the falcons they gave their pick to Los Angeles which right now is sitting at pick 11 in the draft extra motivated that is I mean that's genuinely really important and they're in the hunt for the number one seed so in this game you know this is one of those ones where I'm thinking of myself oh are the Rams are they going to have stuff to play for Monday night after all these games yeah Yeah. A win makes their first round pick better, and they can still get the number one seat.
Starting point is 01:06:23 So where is the confidence level? What tier is Stafford in for this week? For you? We underestimated him on this show. All three of us did. Against Seattle, we thought without Devante Adams as his little goal line wide receiver. Yeah, he double middle fingered us because he was the number one quarterback on the week the first time he did that all year. And they are 457 yards. Right now, I believe last I looked, he was the odds on betting favorite to be the MVP of the league. That's got to be in the mind. They get around the goal line. They're going to have some stuff to help put him over the top.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I think Matthew Stafford is a very good play this week. Do you like, like one of the things that happened last week is Seattle put up such a fight? Do you think Atlanta can do that at home in this game? Enough. If London is there, can they score enough on- Offensively? Yeah, can they score enough to give you confidence in all the offensive pieces for the Rams? The nice thing is the Rams defense, their rushing defenses has been very good most of the year. Their defense has been wilting a bit, and their past defense has been where you attack them. So I think that, you know, Drake London, Kirk Cousins, and Kyle Pitts on, I mean, this is,
Starting point is 01:07:48 This is primetime Kirk Cousins, which we know has not been historically great. Not always. And pay attention to Drake London. He popped as a limited participant on Thursday. Was he a full participant Wednesday? I don't. I'll look at it. I just, no, I got my alert that it's like, oh, Drake London's down to from healthy to questionable.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And you're like, what? London had finished wider receiver 1-1 and 7 before the injury, came back, didn't do much last week. Oh, thank you, Brooks. It's on an estimated practice report. because this is a Monday night game. So this is their Wednesday practice. You still like him as your start of the week? Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:22 So, Mike, just so the people know, like on Monday night football, you got Bejohn in one league. I know that. Yeah. Then you're facing Kyron and Puka in another league? Yeah. Is that the only players that touch this game for you, or is there others? Kyle Pitts, I'm against Kyle Pitts on Monday as well. Maybe I doubt we'll get any drama because you'll be winning by 600 to 700 points.
Starting point is 01:08:43 But if we do, it'd be fun. We do have one more segment, guys. No drama. Me and Mary J. Blige. No drama? Yeah. One more segment. Fantasy Face Off, presented by prize picks. I'm so happy.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Not because I want to see Jason suffer or you suffer, but because I, I'm not the shame. Yeah, I will take it. Wheel of shame. I will say Mike and Jason, they had tied this week as the losers. And then they had to do a tiebreaker and you're the super loser. I'm the super loser. Spin it. Spin it. My spin. Spin that wheel.
Starting point is 01:09:40 What have we got here? Got you something for Christmas. Starman. Jerry Jones. I still want Jerry Jones to hit one. Ooh, cramped up. cramped up. Oh, is it?
Starting point is 01:09:49 Oh, it's crampus. Oh, yeah. I'm going to eat your children. Have you guys seen the, uh, Mike's fresh out of those? The what? Oh, yeah, I said you're fresh out of children. Have you guys seen any, got any of the reels or anything of, uh, like the crampus parades
Starting point is 01:10:05 that they do over in Europe? Man, I wasn't sure. Oh, thank goodness this wasn't me because that thing would not do it. I was pretty worried. I asked Al to try it. It's snug. Yeah, look. Outstanding.
Starting point is 01:10:17 snug do you have your I feel like you can breathe in there yeah no it's not it's not too bad kind of like it in here I might stay after the show you got your lineup memorized I think you can see through
Starting point is 01:10:29 I could see through the holes enough can you hear me well enough yeah yeah no we got you why don't you kick it off crampus I'll kick it off with Joe Burrow oh crap yeah so the thing is is he's on Mike's team
Starting point is 01:10:39 and so did you pick all Mike's players we'll find out oh my gosh 267 and a half passing yards. Yeah, he's going to blow that out of the water. So I'm taking more than that. I thought about doing that. No joke. I'm, I'm actually going on the sad side. My quarterback is Jackson Dart. And I'm taking 27.5 pass attempts. And I'm taking less. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:11:06 That does make sense after last week. My, my quarterback is my green goblin. It's Jacoby Brissette, 209 and a half passing yards. 209? Yeah, we're going more. Oh, gosh. Oh, goodness. I got one goblin was real green I got one saved that for you though guys all right uh my running back Chase Brown Mike's running back Chase Brown
Starting point is 01:11:26 53 and a half rushing yards against the Arizona Carls no problem No problem That's not even a goblin That is not a goblin I My green goblin's my running back Tony Pollard 11 and a half rushing attempts
Starting point is 01:11:39 I'm taking the more I'm taking the more Oh it's a green goblin Yeah that's my green goblin That projection is crazy I am trying to atone for some of the last week's sins. I got Ashton Genty. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:51 69 and a half rushing yards. We're going to go more. All right. I'm going away from Mike's team. This is where I lose. Trey Tucker, this is not a green goblin. Just four receptions at wide receiver. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I can't wait for this one. Yeah. So I'm taking more than four receptions with. Brock Bowers out of the way. I'm going J.S.N. Receiving targets, nine. I'm taking more. Yeah. I got T. Higgins in that big blow-up spot.
Starting point is 01:12:26 T. Higgins at 57.5 receiving yards. We're going to go more. And at tight end, this is my green goblin. I'm going with Harold Fannin Jr. Three and a half receptions. It's already done. Yeah, he's living at 4 plus. So I'll take more than that.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I went Joanne Johnson, 42 and a half receiving yards. I'm taking the more. I, in something that has not been done in our price picks matchups, guys. Trey McBride. Demon. Oh, you go, wow. You're taking the more difficult. Is this a touchdown?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Seven and a half receptions. You took the demon. Demon, baby. This guy is living on. Let's go! He'll do whatever he wants. He ain't scared. He's like, I can win at normal, at normal odds. So I'm just going to do whatever to make it harder for
Starting point is 01:13:15 I mean to still win. Wow. To be clear, I assume you're taking the more there. You didn't specify. All right. You can't take both sides of a demon. That was fantasy face off presented by prize picks. Seven days of picks misses back.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Unwrapped the Great Max discounts on the app through December 26th. And use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups when you play $5. Well, good luck everybody. Jason just looked. It's like the saddest crampets. He does look like a sad. Look at him. I didn't get to eat any children.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Oh, we will be back on Monday to talk championship studs and duds. We will have championship shirts up on the website, shopballers.com for you, footclan title winners. If there's any inventory left, if Mike hasn't bought it all up. And good luck Saturday, Sunday, Monday. We'll talk to you. One game, Christian. One more.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I don't even know if we'd see Mike ever again if something happened. Christian McHasture really in that game. I don't think we'd ever see him again. One game. He doesn't even want to entertain the joke. Nope. One more, crampus. One more.
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