Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 17 Matchups + Championship Choices, Weather Worries? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/27
Episode Date: December 27, 2024Week 17 start/sit advice and more on today’s fantasy football podcast! Matchup previews continued for Championship Week! Plus, injury updates, Mike spins the Wheel of Shame, and a quick recap of Thu...rsday Night Football. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for December 27th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (00:40) - TNF Recap (05:20) - FootClan Friday (07:15) - NFL News (18:00) - Fantasy Forecast (18:20) - Cowboys at Eagles (21:15) - Panthers at Buccaneers (24:55) - Titans at Jaguars (28:25) - Dolphins at Browns (32:10) - Packers at Vikings (35:35) - Falcons at Commanders (41:40) - Lions at 49ers (47:05) - Fantasy Faceoff/Wheel of Shame Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What was that?
What was that?
Oh, you're talking about the game?
Welcome to the show, one and all.
That's fine, you can about the game. Yeah. Oh Welcome to the show one and all I that's fine. You can get into it
What is what is happening?
Look, I'll tell you what's happened
Mike is tilting his face off every conceivable way every moment of every day 100%
But also the last three games that we have gotten three primetime games. We have
Like the Ravens they put up a bunch of points, yeah,
but you had what, the Steelers scored 10,
Houston was two, and then the Bears were three?
This was six to three.
The Seahawks whooped the Bears six to three.
This was a terrible football game
and a new loser punishment for your league if you
I I thought about this morning going on to Twitter and offering up a prize
For somebody that delivers me a full live stream of them having to watch this game again
Oh, man, so it you know, that's how that's like Guantanamo Bay stuff
Yeah, I went too far Andy. I went to NFL comm this morning So it you know, that's how that's like Guantanamo Bay stuff
I went too far Andy. I went to NFL comm this morning and the where's your humanity the main picture on NFL comm And I tweeted it it said
rewatch
Seahawks Bears with NFL premium like cuz they what an ad, you know, and I was like, I don't think I will I dare you
I dare you to watch that again
What was that? It was another lump of coal. I think maybe players are distracted Christmas week
Well look the preparation. I don't know
You know it was a akin to what we saw from Houston's offense
I mean Houston's offense scored fewer points
than the Bears did.
The Bears offense scored three.
Houston's offense did nothing.
And they looked very similar, by the way.
It was called an unmitigated pass rush
and offensive play calling an awareness
by the quarterback that was drunk.
I mean, I don't know what it was.
Like, can you call a play like you used to not be able to blitz?
Good quarterbacks. It was like what they wanted you to do Kurt Warner. I wanted you to blitz him Drew Brees blitz him
I dare you
All all Chicago did all game long was throw screen passes really really quickly to the outside where they had five defenders
Well, don't forget the place where where Caleb would hold the ball for 15 seconds.
It gets sacked.
Towards the end of that game, I kept thinking they're going to have one play,
just one play where they block someone.
I was like, this is gonna happen.
Caleb's gonna have someone blocked.
And it was just every single play the ball is there
and so are the defenders.
So I look I feel like we are doing a disservice to the show by uttering any more words about
that game.
Well we know there's people in the championship round that they need to hear.
DJ Maher.
They was fine enough.
We need to channel their rage and them being upset but I I mean, no one was good.
Nobody was good in this game.
Charbonne, like Charbonne to the eyeball,
like I thought Sharps looked good.
I was surprised they didn't keep feeding him the ball more
and more and more, but he ends up 15 for 57.
He did catch three passes, so,
ah, fantasy-wise it's okay, but JSN
It was JSN and Keenan Allen man. I mean guys who were
second half superstars
JSN 3 for 32 Keenan 5 for 25 just if you started absolutely brutal if you started Nikol Collins or Joe Mixon
You sure as heck hoped your opponent had DK Metcalf for JSN or Keenan Allen
That was that's the balance of this week and we walked in and the first thing we said in the studio is like or Joe Mixon, you sure as heck hoped your opponent had DK Metcalf for J.S. in or Keenan Allen.
That was, that's the balance of this week.
And we walked in and the first thing we said in the studio
was like, like this was a rainy game.
Like this was a weather game.
It wasn't the worst we're gonna see this weekend.
But Jason read off about 45 teams
that have weather games this week.
And it's going to blow up some games this weekend.
That's going to happen.
There are going to be games where you're,
rolling your eyes into the back of your head
because it should have been, could have been,
would have been the game you expected,
and it was nothing because it's raining or windy
or things of that nature.
So if you had the bad game,
like if you want a glass half full it,
and you had Keyin in there, JSA in there, Metcalfe,
you are now scanning the weather reports
for your opponent's players.
Yeah, and good news, it's bad for them.
I am doing that right now.
I am looking at Al Borland and I'm saying,
Devontae Adams is playing in the rain,
Jaden Daniels was playing in the rain,
Cortland Sutton is playing in the rain.
May they all slip and fall.
Ha ha ha ha.
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It puts the lotion on it
But it's a good time to get that
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Oh Al just said he needs a fancy champs gift card because he's got it in the back.
That's what he.
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I didn't say that.
You implied it.
Did you really say that?
You did imply it.
I might have implied it.
You implied it.
Oh, okay.
I want so badly to have a shot on Monday night
with Jameer Gibbs.
And if I, when I say have a shot,
I just want to be within 35 points.
35 points is what I want to be within.
And I'll do that, what was your motion?
Oh, that was still a one-off.
That penalty, that's 15 yards.
Oh yeah, that's a penalty.
Yeah, the thumb was up, thumb was up.
15 yards.
Oh my gosh.
We got more matchups today.
We always got you covered here.
That's why we're here Friday, December 27th the final
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Very very excited to see who can bring home that hashtag foot clan title. Let's talk news
News and notes from around the league presented by USAA insurance.
Let's begin with the tilt fast.
That is the shutdown of CD lamb.
City lamb is being shut down for the rest of the season.
It's the right move for CD lamb.
It's the wrong move for Michael Wright.
Dude, you gotta wait one more week, Cowboys.
Yeah.
What's all this?
I had people pay tickets to come see me play.
I think that was CD.
This is the difference.
This is why I thought when we had the quote from John Gannon about is Connor gonna play?
Connor wanted to play.
He's like, we're gonna do what what's best for Connor, the best for the team. CD lamb wants to play, but the Cowboys are actually doing what is best for
the team and for CD lamb, which is protecting himself from himself. He shouldn't be playing
football for the NFL. It just stinks that it's championship week for a lot of people.
If I were CD lamb and I knew they were going to shut me down, putting out a quote like
people pay to come and see me play, so I'm gonna play.
That's exactly what I would have done.
Oh, so you look like the best.
Yeah.
Everybody loves me.
This guy's fighting through the pain
that all the teams should, it's the team, guys.
Oh, man.
Next level CD.
There's so many fundamental elements to these decisions.
I mentioned the fact that, like,
the report we have this morning is that
it's looking likely the Cardinals will have James Connor on Saturday night. For those wondering
yesterday you wanted to put me on the spot. What was I going to do? I needed more Intel.
As of right now, Connor's going to be in over McMillan. But part of the factor there is,
well, he had a couple of limited practices, seems to be doing well. The intricacies of
the injuries and risk of re-injury
is a factor for these teams.
Like, C.D. Lamb at any moment with an AC joint sprain,
he falls on his shoulder all game long.
You are risking a re-injury to a great degree.
And for the Cardinals,
they are in the position to play spoiler.
They can disrupt the Rams making the playoffs
a divisional matchup.
And so, you know, there's things that we don't know.
We don't know the severity of Connor's reinjury risk,
but all that stuff swirls around to these decisions.
We'll know more and I'm gonna stay water.
That's an expression we use all the time.
I'm not gonna lock in my take here on a Friday morning
if I get new information.
Yeah, if I get new information tomorrow,
it'll be McMillan on Sunday morning. But as of right now, that's what I get new information. Yeah, if I get new information tomorrow, it'll be McMillan on Sunday morning.
But as of right now, that's what I'm gonna do.
I would have, speaking of the Cowboys,
I would have shut him down like a month ago.
So, me too.
Every time he goes down on that shoulder and gets up
and you just, you're like,
this man is in an immense amount of pain.
I'm like, no, franchise face, CD-LAM?
No, we're not gonna do this to you.
No, you're out of the playoffs.
So, yeah.
Unfortunately, he will not be helping you win a title.
I only think they were eliminated two weeks ago.
Then that's when they should have shut him down.
Mathematically.
Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
And T Higgins, questionable, limited three times this week.
Gus Edwards ruled out.
J.K. Dobbins, it's still not a guarantee,
but it looks like he'll be back.
I saw some less guaranteed reports.
I mean, maybe you guys saw something different.
I have not.
Obviously, with Edwards not available,
you'd think he's there.
Yeah, but Gus being out gives me,
it should Dobbins be active?
Like, Gus Edwards is the only competition to JK Dobbins be active?
Gus Edwards is the only competition to JK Dobbins on this team, and JK Dobbins, at least what we saw
for the majority of the year, is a much better player
at this point.
Vidal Sessun is not a real threat.
No, he's a hair product.
Yes, technically he is.
So, follow the news,
but it's certainly trending like Dobbins
is gonna be a startable player.
It's worth saying this show isn't going anywhere
just because championship week is over.
Like we'll be here for the most painful week of the season,
week 18, where all we're doing is talking about
guys getting sat down,
because there'll be a lot of them.
But then we're here beyond.
Well, you know, this show is a year round fantasy football podcast. To infinity. And we have a lot of them. But then we're here beyond.
This show is a year-round fantasy football podcast.
To infinity.
And we have a lot of fun in the offseason.
We get to reflect on the reality, the truth,
of the season.
We get to begin projecting so soon.
I'm already watching college film,
watching college tight ends, see what the next number one
overall tight end will be this upcoming year.
We're going to do it twice. I mean, two times in a row.
Yeah, it appears so.
Alvin Kamara did not practice, although not ruled out,
for the Saints, Kamara, Connor.
Why?
Pride, man, pride in being there for your team.
Is this, does this mean that, like, we haven't,
I haven't seen any report on Derek Carr,
but like if Olave's practicing,
and Kamara's trying to make an opponent to play. And Olave might, yeah. That's what I'm saying, is Derek Carr, but like if Olave's practicing and Kamara's trying to make a push to play.
And Olave might, yeah.
That's what I'm saying, is Derek Carr,
like are they just gonna have like their whole team back
other than Taysom just unexpectedly for no reason?
Possibly, possibly.
We got word yesterday that Anthony Richardson's
still not practicing, first team reps going to Joe Flacco.
Oh boy.
I saw a question in Superflex League,
Bryce Young or Joe Flacco of Flacco plays.
I went with Flacco, that matchup.
Yeah, they both have very good matchups.
Flacco was really bad last we saw him.
It's a Giants matchup.
Yeah, I do lean the Flacco side.
Malik, neighbors Tyrone Tracy,
both did not practice on Thursday,
we're still waiting for updated reports there. Neighbors there was a quote from
Neighbors that he basically put himself as a game time decision. Neat. Yeah I
think he is very questionable. If you've got Neighbors you need to be
prepared to pivot because I you know as of right now I was looking at him in
certain lineups I'm like no I'm not putting him in you need
To have a pivot that works with the game time of your player this week because we've got games all over the place. So
What time is the the neighbors game? Is that a Sunday? I'll look that up. Yeah Giants 1 p.m Eastern on Sunday, so if you have a bench pivot and they play on Saturday in the three Saturday games, that's not gonna work
You're either gonna have to make the call on Saturday and not play it
It's worth it's worth mentioning if you're going to not play a player who plays on Saturday if you're not going to play them
Depending on your league platforms cut them cut them cut them. Yeah, they won't be available for waivers
No one can pick them up. You don't need them next week if this is your championship. Give yourself the roster spot. Yeah. So if you need to add someone,
you don't even have to pick someone else up. Just cut them if you're not going to
play them on Saturday. Hundred percent. Very important. And you started saying
all of that like a Dr. Seuss poem. Nice. If you're gonna play a player and you
play a player player. K-Dot did not practice. Not gonna be back out there. It
doesn't look like Jalen Hurts didn't practice. Uh-oh. Jalen Hurts probably knocked you out last week, but he's not gonna be back out there, it doesn't look like. Jalen Hurts didn't practice, uh oh.
Jalen Hurts probably knocked you out last week,
but he's not gonna be a part
of your championship week, most likely.
And same goes for David Najoku, Jalen Waddle.
We haven't seen a practice from Toling Pollard all week.
Who?
Tony Pollard.
Oh, I heard like Toling.
Yeah, Toling Pollard.
I might have been too busy looking at my listener league team where Tony Pollard is one of my starters
Oh, no, he's not and he's not
Hypothetical situation for someone totally different than me Tony Pollard or I'm gonna take the or
Well, I'd say double or
Kendre Miller Antonio Gibson are the two who pivot's Oh
Kendre Miller and Tonio Gibson are the two pivots.
So if Tony Pollard doesn't play, I think it's Pollard. I think you're putting Pollard in there.
You don't want negative points.
You want that good morale.
I think it's Kendre from those.
Gross, dude.
And I had Jaylen Warren in that league,
who had a nice week.
But I felt the need to wait.
Pollard, good matchup.
Spears is gonna be a really good play. All right that was today's News and
Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Oh did I miss the Devonte Adams line? Yeah.
He did not practice again on Thursday Al. Yeah I know. What you gonna do? I mean if
I have to start Mooney that that's the guy I got waiting.
That's your pivot?
Yep.
I hope it stresses you out.
Kevin Roth from Roto Grinders,
who is just, he's a tremendous weather source.
His modeling right now, again, we're in model season,
so you gotta wait on the weather, but.
Blue Steel?
The Jets.
I mean, he's a sharp-looking fella, if that's where we're going. So you gotta wait on the weather, but. Blue Steel? The Jets.
He's a sharp looking fella, if that's where we're going. But the model right now, he is very concerned
about the Jets-Buffalo game for potential heavy rain.
To be fair, in case you need to pivot to Mooney,
he is also considered about potential heavy rain
for that game in Washington.
Dude, there's not. Yeah, there's not a lot of,
there's not a lot of games where you're not,
double guessing, or is that the expression I'm looking for?
Yep, oh, totally.
Double guessing.
Yeah, you double guessed it.
I think second guessing.
Second guessing.
No, no, no, no.
Dang it.
Oh, you're wrong, it's definitely double.
Dang it, yesterday Jason went with the unremember,
which is exactly what I wanted to do with the Chicago-Seattle game. I wanted to unremember that that ever happened. That was on the footcast, jointhe wrong. Dang it, yesterday Jason went with the unremember, which is exactly what I wanted to do
with the Chicago-Seattle game.
I wanted to unremember that that ever happened.
That was on the footcast, jointhefoot.com.
Oh, is that what it was?
Okay, yeah, Jason threw out an unremember instead of forget,
which, look, beautiful turn of phrase.
With all the AI and the power of scheduling and everything,
NFL, there's a lot of domes out there. AI and the power of scheduling and everything.
NFL, there's a lot of domes out there.
Look, I want every team to play in a dome.
I know that's not a realistic thing.
You know the-
What if we just schedule it though so like right now-
There's more domes now.
People are in domes.
You're willing to make a compromise.
That's right.
You know that they can't build that many stadiums that fast.
Just schedule.
And outdoor football when the weather is great,
is, it's a beautiful majestic and so much better.
I wouldn't know the seasons where weather is bad, Mike.
You know who might?
Jerry.
Jerry Jones.
Yeah.
We've got quantum, we got the new quantum computers coming out from Google. Jerry. with certainty. You should be able to do that. If you're a multiverse weather. Let's go. Okay that was today's News and Notes presented by USA Insurance. Learn
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matchups.
It's time for Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Well yesterday we covered three Saturday games, Chargers Patriots, Broncos Bengals, Cardinals
Rams.
On Sunday games we covered Jets, Bills, Raiders, Saints, Colts, Giants and
We are we're getting into it Dallas seven and eight Philly twelve and three
Philly seven point favorites over under thirty eight and a half. This is a game that Vegas expects Philly to win on defense
Which they should be able to do with no CD Lamb and Dallas has a 15.8 point implied point total.
That's the lowest I've seen this year, I think.
It's real close.
I think there was one that was lower,
but yeah, in the 15s is not a normal thing
on a weekly basis at all.
This makes it really hard to me
to have confidence in Rico Dowdell.
Yes, it is devastating for Rico.
Rico, I mean, he's got a DK rushing line
of 58 and a half yards, which isn't.
Under.
Yeah, give me the under.
I think so as well.
You've got a bad week last week, and without CD Lamb
against a really good Philly defense.
And this is going to be a conservative team,
probably offensively a little bit,
because I don't expect to have Jalen Hurts there.
Low scoring game.
It means that the only,
really the only player you're even considering
on the Cowboys side is Rico,
and if they're not scoring points against a good defense,
I don't wanna play him.
I'd actually take the under and the total points.
Oh yeah.
So you're gonna write off Ferguson? Yeah I think I am. Ferguson would be the biggest
beneficiary in this dink and dunk to survive situation. I was gonna ask you if you had
to make a desperation pivot to a wide receiver would it be Tolbert, would it be Cooks? It
would probably be sadness. It would be Cooks. I would probably be Sadness. It would be Cooks.
Yeah, I'd go, I think I'd go Cooks.
Yeah, Brandon Cooks if you have to,
but I think there's better pivot options out there.
As far as Ferguson, maybe he has an uptick.
He had nine targets last week and you'd be like,
oh great, but since he's been back from injury,
I mean 30 yards, 20 yards, last week on those nine targets,
40 yards, like there's not much there on
the other side it's hard to be as confident with AJ Brown and Devontae
Smith if it's Kenny Pickett in a game that might be like you said a more
conservative offense utilizing Kenneth Gainwell, Saquon heading towards the
record I mean he's 268 rushing yards away just imagine imagine if he puts up another 150 in this game and
What you're looking at going into the final week of the season would maybe
Not as much on the line and yet that record right there the motivation for Saquon
going after that record is like I expect them to
Really really really rely on the run game and be opening things up for him this week. So
110 and a half rushing yard line. I think he obviously you're starting Saquon, but I believe
you could be really confident in his end of game superiority this week. He should be a top five back.
Moving on to Carolina 4 and 11 against the eight-7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers who are fighting for their lives.
The DraftKings Sportsbook line, Tampa minus 8, they're at home. The over-under is 48.5.
This is another game where we're going to see some weather.
And anything from scattered showers to some wind gusts, I think this is one you're gonna need to track a little bit.
My biggest concern here, like I've been pretty pro McMillan in the early part of this week.
I still think he's gonna have the opportunity.
But I mean, you've got two starts of the week at the running back position right here in
the show.
And Mike and I went with Bucky Irving and Rashad White, because the Carolina running
defense is, I mean, it should be in quotes, it should be in quotes and this is a game where I think
you know that motivation difference, the fact Tampa is fighting for their lives,
that the front seven, the opportunity to push guys around that are pushed you
know you can easily push them around in Carolina. I think Bucky Irving he's got a
rush receiving line of 98 and a half. Nice. And I think those guys are going to be the dominators in this one. I'm
becoming more hesitant about Baker having a big game. I think I'll have a good
game. Where are you guys at with this matchup and all of the pieces involved?
This is one of the games I'm like really really hopeful that the wind and isn't very bad here.
There should be a little bit of rain but I want the pieces in this game.
I think Thielin on one side should have to keep up with a very very bad secondary for the Bucks.
Vita Vea has made it very difficult to run on them and you can throw on them.
So I think Adam Thielen's a great play. Bucky, Rashad White, Mike Evans is so close to his
thousand yards. He needs 182 yards. Yeah, so he needs 182 yards. He's going to be force-fed
the ball. I really, I really, really like almost everybody. The only concerning play,
I mean Bryce young and super flex
I think you could put him in
Chuba is a little bit believable last week. Yeah, I mean he was so good
But over the last six weeks gonna be harder. You've seen Tampa really shut down the the running game
Yeah, I don't want to throw too much cold water on that office
Tampa's got an implied point total of 28. So McMillan, Evans, White,
Irving, Baker, all in play. And I think the weather is going to be okay. I don't want
to overstate it.
Did we say that Shepard has not practiced this week?
Sterling Shepard has not practiced this week.
So like that just...
And Kade on now.
Yeah. So I mean, so the like, the Jalen McMillan confidence
because of those players being, like it matters.
Yeah.
So wait, you're telling me that there's a team
implied for almost 30 points
who's lost two of his main targets.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
McMillan, McMillan looks like a good option, huh?
I think he is a good option.
Even maybe even better than James Connor. I think he is a good option. Maybe even better than James Connor.
I think he could be.
He could be, they'll be close.
I'm sure it'll go down to the wire.
We'll see what happens on Saturday.
Oh wait, no, that is Saturday.
Connor Saturday, son of a gun.
All right, Thielen, 54 and a half.
You talked about Chuba, Bryce Young and company.
Ligette's not, or he's limited.
And a dart throw would be Coker in that game
if you can't run on Tampa.
That's your wild dart throw of the week.
Tennessee's three and 12, Jacksonville's three and 12,
Jacksonville one point home favorites,
overrunners 39 and a half.
Scattered showers possible, gross, gross, gross.
Jacksonville and Tennessee are three and four.
Like the winner of this game is the loser of this game.
That is 100% the case.
These teams are motivated to lose.
And yet.
I mean the management, not the players.
No, and it's just what makes the NFL so unique.
It's why Connor wants to play,
it's why Camaro wants to play,
it's why Olavi wants to play. Is that there is the brotherhood locker room aspect of the game.
Who wants to be here next year is part of what happens.
All of these guys are fighting for paychecks, right?
Yes, maybe Kamara and Connor get to come back no matter what, but are you out there for
your brothers?
Are you out there fighting to get them a paycheck for next season?
Those things come into play. So in this game, goodness gracious, Chigga Conquo.
You should play him. Jacksonville just gave up 10 plus catches to Brock
Bowers last week. 34, or I'm sorry, they're not good against tight ends.
Just to go back for a second, just to illustrate
how bad it will be for whoever wins this game.
I mean, because these are two, three, and 12 teams.
You look at the record, you've got New England three and 12,
Jacksonville three and 12, Tennessee three and 12,
Cleveland three and 12, Vegas three and 12.
You're gonna, you have the chance to go
from like the second to the like out of the date night yeah I mean it's it's a
like these teams should be trying to tie or something but but they won't they
won't and so who do you think is just like last week we said with the Raiders
game similar situation it was which team is worst coached that's who's gonna win Raiders won so is this Jacksonville
Jacksonville wins this one well I think maybe Tampa's or Tennessee is soft on
defense maybe you know I think I have more trust that Mac Jones is gonna air
it out and I think Mason Rudolph's gonna play conservatively.
The over-under is low.
I think it's a three-point game,
and I don't know who wins.
And whoever wins loses.
So ETN, his rushing line is 38 and a half.
Goodness gracious.
Try to do something else.
Like Brian Thomas is the player you play.
Because he's been unbelievable, double-digit targets. Chig, Brian Thomas. Rid player you play. Yeah, because he's been unbelievable double-digit targets chig Brian Thomas
Ridley is a you can play right touchdown
Opportunity and then Tajay Spears Jason you mentioned it if Pollard misses which for goodness sakes, Tennessee
Give us this if you're going to be this bad. Just give us some clarity at running back
I'm not because Tony Pollard can have an injured Tony Pollard can run on one of the worst run defenses. Yeah Tony Pollard. I'll play him if he's
active. You'll play Tony Pollard. Yeah over Kendre Miller or Gibson or anybody. Yeah if
you're that low I think you're right. But for ETN. I think if Tony Pollard is
active Tajay Spears is still a player you can start. Tony Pollard was active the
last two weeks when when Spears was the a player you can start. Tony Pollard was active the last two weeks
when Spears was the running back five
and the running back 12.
Exactly, wink.
Last week he missed practice the whole week,
Pollard did, and then played,
but played a minority of the snaps,
ceded a ton of work to Pollard who is used both
around the goal line and in the passing aim.
So in this matchup against Jacksonville,
I think Spears is an okay play.
Miami 7-8 taking on the 3-12 Cleveland Browns,
another over-under-under 40.
Miami 6.5 point road favorites.
Heavy rain is in the forecast.
Miami needs to stay alive.
They've got to win.
They have a slim chance but they
could do it but if LA and Denver wins on Saturday they're toast and both of them play on Saturday
so there's that Miami to a a Chan Tyreek John new Smith any hesitation with those core four.
No hesitation for John who Tyreek is just it's it will be
interesting to get actual information at the end of the season of like what happened.
How do you go from Tyreek of last year where wasn't he
chasing the record.
Yeah.
And then you go from that to where we are right now,
which is on pace for,
he's on pace for under a thousand yards.
I was just going to look at that.
He's at 834.
But you have to remember how many games he missed this year.
Which was none.
He has not missed a single game this year.
From 1799 to 834.
And we did get the report of like back when he had
his his incident with the with the police and he said he got hurt during
that so that's what I mean of like how do you go from last year to this but I'm
still I'm still playing. Dolphins have made a choice that if they want to have
two as their quarterback they change the outfits. His average yards per completion was,
you know, went from, or sorry, average depth of target
went from nine to seven to now five.
Like, like, I don't know if it's depth of target
or average completion, but they've all gone down
because this is the way you play with a quarterback
that has the risk of being knocked out for his career
if he's hit.
So you have to make the adjustment if you want out for his career if he's hit. Yeah.
So you have to make the adjustment if you want him as your quarterback.
Or they've chosen to.
Some of that and also just can they, they know they can't run the ball.
Like HN on the ground is not what HN was last year where he was basically every time he
was handed the ball you're like, oh here comes a 20 yard run that has not been
The case this year. He's gone from seven point eight yards per attempt to four point two, which is still really good, but
Yeah, not having the long plays like last year on the other side Dorian Thompson Robinson
Could be him. He's been limited could be Bailey's Zappi. Could be a combo. What's crazy is, DTR, his...
Oh, was average at the target.
I don't know if you could call it a superpower, but his only ability...
His strongest trait as a quarterback is...
Is the wheels. Is to run. And if he's got a calf issue,
and he's a little bit immobilized
and he's gonna be a pocket passer.
You guys done with Judy for the year?
Yeah.
I don't know how you can start him.
I am starting him in one league that I just kinda have to
but I don't want to.
Same with Jerome Ford.
I have to play him.
He's DK rushing yard.
That's not high.
Is at 50 and a half.
Yeah.
Miami's defense, very good against running backs for fantasy purposes.
I don't want to play anyone on the Browns.
You have David Najoku who is hurt.
He hasn't practiced all week.
Getting an MRI.
And Ford is, everyone on this team, I'll just put it this way, is it's more of a desperate start.
Brown and out.
We're not doing it.
We're not messing around with that team.
Implied point total is 16.
Green Bay is 11 and four,
Minnesota 13 and two.
Here's what's interesting.
DraftKings Sportsbook Line, we have double checked this.
It's Green Bay minus one on the road.
That's pretty crazy.
Over-under is 48.
Why?
We know something you don't know.
Yeah, I know.
It does feel like that.
It's like you're going up against a 13-win team at home,
and they are the underdogs, which seems pretty crazy.
Now, the Packers,
the Packers have been a great team in their
own right. You've got to remember they lost Jordan Love for a little bit of the year and
so as an 11-win team, obviously these are two very, very good teams.
Green Bay scored 30-plus in five straight.
I love that this game is in a dome and has a 48 point over and under.
On this week, this is the game that I want.
Now I do worry a little bit
because you have two good defenses here
and it's a divisional game.
So does this turn into one of those
really disappointing defensive slugfests?
It could, but I also look at this game
as one of the few games on the slate this week
where it's like you could get a back and forth
offensive output without worry about rain and you know even if
the first half starts slow once teams start scoring and the other one has to
catch up these are two teams that generally do you know if the Vikings
are down they're they're generally gonna air it out and catch up and same for the
Packers. Well the Vikings stopped the run too I like Jordan Love in this game I
think Jordan Love has a great opportunity
to kind of put it all on display here.
This is a game they need him to do that.
Jaden Reed in the mix then.
If you want to hit the nitro boost,
you want a shot as an underdog,
your shot's probably not Adam Thielen.
It's probably somebody like Jaden Reed.
Or Dontavian Wicks.
Christian Watson has not been practicing this week.
Dontavian Wicks, the matchup against Minnesota,
the deep passing on that secondary when you can't run on them is great.
So that's my dart throw of the week for if you need a guy off of waivers
that you could throw into your lineup, you know, if he was available,
instead of my Jerry Judy, I would 100% put Dontavian Wicks in over Jerry Judy.
What if like Romeo Dobbs was available though?
Dobbs is an okay play too, I mean.
Okay, thank goodness.
Is he playing for you?
Dude, I have no choice.
They were like, yeah, CD Lamb, he's done for the year.
Ken, Ken Bonewalker, oh, he's, no, he's done.
CMC, done.
Yeah, so, you know, cool.
You have so much depth in your dynasty team,
and I've always thought, I was like,
man, you could consolidate some of that for more power.
Thank goodness you got it.
No!
Jefferson.
You no longer have depth.
No, I do not.
You just have starters now.
Aaron Jones, Jefferson Addison, play them.
Hawkinson, he is a sketchy play.
He is.
Chig or Hawkinson? he is a sketchy play. He is. Chig or Hawkinson?
I'm gonna go Chig.
Yeah.
That's the number one search on our website.
It, that one is not like,
I can pound the table with complete confidence
that say, O'Conquist will have a better game than Hawkinson,
but the volume for Hawkinson is just,
it's not there right now.
Okay, anybody else in that matchup
that you wanna talk about?
Josh Jacobs, he's been dominant.
Yeah, I mean.
Aaron Jones receiving in rushing line is 86 1 1 2.
Jacobs is in a bad spot against Minnesota,
but it doesn't matter.
Sunday Night Football is Atlanta
and Michael Pinnix Jr., eight and seven,
with the ability to hold on to their top spot in the division facing the commanders. What pick was Pinnix? 8 I
think. So the eighth pick versus the second? Yeah. Washington three and a half
point favorites. The overrunners 47 and a half. Kyle I don't know if you know
where it opened. This is a game where rain is likely it could be heavy rain it's on Sunday night so I'll get to
watch it in isolation as each drip drop falls down onto the field now you do
have a running quarterback you know that though right like that's a good thing
yep looks like the line open minus four and a half sorry I'm in the over under
do we know an overnight is the over under. Do we know an over?
Is the over under adjusted due to weather?
It's held steady. OK. All right.
Both teams highly, highly motivated.
Washington clenches a playoff spot if they can win this game.
Atlanta clenches the division if they can win this game, which is wild.
I know because of how bad they've been for the last two months. What
is the Tampa scenario this week because Tampa has to lose. Well no for that's
for Atlanta's purpose I'm saying if if Tampa wins which they're playing
Carolina and heavily favored and Atlanta loses which they're underdogs
that gives Tampa the yeah I'm trying to see they
play they play the Saints final week yeah yeah if Tampa Bay wins and Atlanta
loses that puts them back into the lead okay so Tampa can take the lead I just
wanted to know what that sets up for the final week there Washington it's been really really special
Jaden Daniels his passing and rushing yard line 273.5 now Terry McLaurin
didn't practice Wednesday limited on Thursday is this just maintenance for
their main guy I mean I haven't heard anything to the contrary yeah to the
contrary of that yeah we, we're playing Terry.
We've also got Bijan Robinson in this game,
another one of Al's guys.
Maybe Darnell Mooney in this game.
I mean, Al is needing this game to be a good one.
Okay.
I think it could be.
The fact that the over-under is held
and hasn't moved due to weather fears. That's good. And Bijon is
going to get a ton of work in this game, especially if there's bad weather. His rushing attempt line
is 18 and a half. So Bijon should get plenty of action. And that's really where people have
beaten the commanders is more on the ground versus through the air. Did you guys see, maybe you read this,
did you see this crazy stat?
This is the first ever regular season matchup
in week 15 or later between two rookie quarterbacks
where both teams are over 500.
That seems impossible.
It is a wild stat.
I genuinely thought the wild stat to you
was gonna be the fact that their head coach.
Where's a hat?
Has gone backwards hat in 12 or 15 games.
Is that?
Oh my gosh.
Because Kyle, of course, knows that.
Dan Quinn.
12 or 15 games with backwards hat, which I think we all admit,
he looks kind of silly, right?
He looks so stupid with the backwards hat.
It's like he's trying to look young.
Can you try that for a second?
From silly to stupid?
Can you try the backwards hat, Jay?
Let me see.
Let me see if your takes are different.
I don't know.
They're a lot cooler and edgier.
You feel kind of cool?
That's for sure.
I'm so much younger now, man.
Right, guys?
Hello, kids.
Brian Robinson, what are you doing oh man Jason had a backwards hat streak a few years ago according to Kyle yeah
you were rocking the backwards hat I did yeah was this a little bit of the midlife
crisis oh probably for sure that's been running a couple years strong oh it's
going forever yeah I plan, because I'm hoping that it's-
It will be an end of life crisis too.
I'm hoping that the end of my life
will just keep extending thanks to AI and whatnot.
So-
Stay in the mid.
So I'll just constantly be in my midlife.
Brian-
Until our new overlords take us down.
Oh, the AI overlords.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
But they'll know the weather. Brian Robinson jr. or Jerome Ford. Oh man I think I'm gonna go B-Rob. I'll go
Robinson. B-Rob had a very bad game last week obviously lost the two fumbles it
was against the Philadelphia Eagles who are so tough but even just a week
prior he had 21 carries three receptions he was
the running back 24 the game previous he was a top 10 running back I think B Rob
is a player that is fine to start we did get updated news here Malik neighbors
Tyron Tracy both will practice on Friday hopefully they play on Sunday I mean
that's a lot better than a game time decision, Mr. Neighbors.
How you feel about Drake London?
With Michael Penix, who, you know.
Michael Penix looked good.
I don't know how he'll play in the rain,
and that concerns me more.
200 yards, no touchdowns.
Yeah, that concerns me a little bit more.
He had eight targets, caught 63% of them.
Yeah, I don't view him really much differently
than when Cousins was there.
Mooney was five for 82 last week, he's a flex play?
Yep, yep.
All right, Zach Hurts probably off the table for you
after a one for 12, coming off the concussion.
I wouldn't do it.
All right, we will.
And the matchup is tough.
The Falcons are stronger against tight ends.
Oh, fun fact for you.
Chris Godwin still has 30 more receiving yards
than Kyle Pitts.
I did see that.
We'll take a break.
We'll hit the Monday Night Football game
so Al can think about it even more.
["The Daily Show Theme"]
["The Daily Show Theme"] Detroit, San Francisco, Monday Night Football Football the final game of championship
week and yes we have some players that matter. Detroit three and a half point
road favorites the over-under is a beautiful spectacular 50.5 which is the
exact total I expect from Jameer Gibbs in this game 50.5. Clear skies good
weather whoo this is the way to finish the championship week. Fun fact the 49 Gibbs in this game 50.5 clear skies good weather
This is the way to finish the championship week fun fact the 49ers are 25th against running backs on the year
28th over the last six weeks what position does Gibbs play?
Jameer Gibbs is indeed a running back
Hmm owl. How are you feeling about this matchup? I just need to go into it up 45.
Okay, there you go.
So Detroit favored, highly motivated,
they are the number one seed.
If they win and Minnesota loses to Green Bay,
which Minnesota's now 1.9 or no,
they can lock up the number one.
Oh man, I really hope that doesn't happen.
Is it locked? Yeah, because they play each other next week. They play each other next week but I think the
division schedule the Lions have it. I think that is right so I want that
week 18 Lions Vikings matchup to be for the bye so I guess I'm rooting for the
Vikings this week. Both teams we know it the Lions the 49ers ravaged by injuries Detroit is
22 players on IR this number one San Francisco 15 players we do expect Isaac
Gurindo back out on the field that's a good thing right? Yeah that's definitely
a good thing and while usually competitive usually you worry about you
just can't run on the Lions because of those injuries the last few weeks people have been running
Pretty well against them Brock Purdy and Jared Goff. Are they both in play this week? I got pretty as my start of the week
I think they yeah, I think they both are the Jared Goff gets the
Like the the the 49ers have been strong against fantasy quarterbacks second on the year seventh over the past six weeks
But not having David Montgomery there. I think, puts golf a little bit more, higher probability
of having a good game.
If you were staring down Debo versus Juan Jennings and you're trying not to be too reactionary,
the receiving yard's line is significantly higher for Jennings?
Yeah.
Is that who you'd go with? That is who I would go with.
And you're bringing up the exact reason why.
Debo's receiving lines at 48 and 1 half versus Joann Jennings at 64 and 1 half.
And while last week you had Debo very involved in the running game with a
handful of carries.
And the Paris game.
It's 7 for 96 through the year.
Yeah, but the additional work in the running game, I feel feel like put him maybe where I would start him over Jennings
But that was without Gerindo what I couldn't go that way. Yes, would it flip it?
Yes, it would that if Gerindo does not play then I'd go say a Debo
Huge game last week from Jameson Williams almond Ross a Brown Gibbs and golf all in play
Just so you know Mike you said you wanted more fun facts. Sam Laporta.
I do.
He's been the tight end five
over the last seven weeks played.
Okay.
And they have needed him more.
They've utilized him more.
His last four weeks, tight end eight, 11, one, and five.
He has scored three touchdowns in the last four weeks.
And I think.
The last three weeks, seven targets, last three weeks seven targets ten targets seven targets
That's the more that's the most important thing to me because you you had some stretches earlier this year where he had good games
But it was because just happened to have touchdowns and it wasn't really involved the the involvement over the last little bit the loss
Of David Montgomery meaning I think they really need to rely on Jared Goff
for the passing game a little bit more.
Like, Chig or Laporta, I'm going Laporta.
Just so you know, before Montgomery went out,
average opportunities per game for Jameer Gibbs
was 16.8.
First game without Montgomery, he received 28 opportunities.
Holy moly.
28 opportunities. It probablyly. 28 opportunities.
It probably won't matter, but I hope it does.
I hope, I mean, if it's 40 point lead,
I'm still gonna have a glimmer in the back of my head.
Oh, you'll have some hope.
I'm still gonna have a glimmer.
Yep, and you should.
If it gets to 50, I'm not gonna have a glimmer.
Yes, you will.
But I did watch, for inspiration this morning all six
Alvin Kamara Christmas touchdowns. I watched them all. Were they good?
They were great because it was like one two three four five six. Didn't they pull like they had seven.
He could have had seven. There was a like a Taysom touchdown or something. Yeah.
And that game stayed competitive. That's why I wanna see the 49ers go out here
and make this game competitive.
It's why I like the defensive injuries for Detroit
for the sake of the fantasy output.
And we do have an injury update.
Jaylen Waddle trending towards questionable tags.
And Mike McDaniel says he's optimistic he can play.
Wow, oh.
Which would delete Malik Washington
from desperation's start category.
It deletes him.
I also think there's been a handful of people
I've seen questions where John-U Smith has been
kind of the answer for the,
a flex option as a second tight end.
And depending on who your option is,
that might have an effect on John-U.
All right, we're into the face-off
Fantasy face-off presented by draft Kings
Well, it was a close one last week the Devon H hand play gave Jason hope in one of his matchups
But it gave me the victory 157 Jason 155 Mike at 116 my my my Theraflu lineup did not
know I'm through no it didn't and that's why this button has to get pushed
wheel of shame Wheel of Shame
Alright, spin the wheel! I saw a Fire Me Up, an Ice Man, a Looney Tunes, where- what is it?
That's really small. Where's the idiot?
Oh, okay. Where's the idiot? Where's the idiot? Oh. OK. OK.
Where's the idiot?
OK.
Found him!
OK.
I think we're going to be able to find him.
Yeah.
For those listening.
Oh, stretch it out over the.
Yeah, you got to stretch it out over the noggin.
Yeah, oh, that's tough.
This is going to be a where's Waldo.
Yeah, I take issue with you guys insinuating
that Waldo is an idiot
It's more you or him. Yeah, well those a man of the world. Yeah, this is as are you? I mean you've been lots of places. Yeah, so including the bottom of this shame. Oh, that looks great. Where's Waldo?
Oh, this looks really good. Yeah, I've been working out
Well, let's start to line up as you as you up found him found the idiot. No, no, no, hold on need the glasses
Now I am because of the glasses people with glasses look like idiots. Yeah. Oh wait
Huh what nothing?
All right. Hey listen, let's let uh, let's let waldo kick it off here
Who's your quarterback this week?
Is Waldo trying not to be found?
I gotta think so, because if he was trying to be found,
he should just change into something
that everyone else isn't wearing.
Wearing candy cane striped hat and shirt
is not the way to be incognito.
And you don't blend into a crowd that way.
Let's not overanalyze this, Mike.
Let's just get you your line up.
All right.
Am I first?
Yeah.
Quarterback Jordan Love at 6,200 against Minnesota.
I have quarterback Jordan Love.
I'm sorry, Papa Josh says, stripes add 50 pounds.
Yeah.
It's definitely not the sweatshirt.
Mike's looking, oh, because horizontal.
Yeah, it's horizontal.
Stripes definitely do make you look larger.
But when you put them on over
your jacket, over your shirt. Alright sorry who's your quarterback? Jordan Love. As is
mine 6200. Oh you both went that way. I actually went to a 5800 saved a few bucks. Very important
game for Miami. Enjoy that weather. That's what I'm going to go with. Well he throws
the ball five yards he don't care. run through the air. At the running back position
johnny taylor
against the new york giants at seventy nine hundred and then jason's
forever superstar star of the week
breece hall against the buffalo bills at sixty three hundred. I have jonathan taylor
as well at seventy nine hundred and i paid up for seqwon barkley at eighty
six hundred and I paid up for Saquon Barkley at 8,600. I have Jonathan Taylor as well,
so we all have him at 7,900.
I went Bucky Irving, and he's my start of the week.
It's the Carolina game.
I mean, 6,700 for Irving seemed like a slam dunk.
Mike, your three wide outs.
I got old man Adam Feehlin at 5,700,
going up against Jalen McMillan who's only 4600 so
hoping that that game could actually do something then I saved some cash here
we're going with Don Tavian Wicks that is my stack he's only 3900 and it looks
like Christian Watson may or may not play. I have Don Tavian Wicks and Jaylen
McMillan as well. You're right. No! Yeah, so I've got those guys,
and then Jaden Reed at 5,900,
so I'm stacking twice with my dude.
I'm doing a double stack as well.
I've locked it in, I didn't have time to pivot
after the waddle news at the end.
So I've got Tyree Kill at 6,900,
and Malik Washington at just 4,000.
I also have McMillan.
Okay.
At a tight end, I imagine this is a pure wash.
I have Oconquo, he has 3,600.
It's the same.
Yeah.
Okay, then Jason, I also have Saquon Barkley at 8,600.
So I mean, I paid up, we're going heavy on the running backs.
We have very similar lineups again.
Heavy on the running backs this week and then I have the Miami Dolphins against whoever the Cleveland Browns put out there for quarterback
That's a very nice defense. I have Bucky Irving in my flex at
6700 and the Raiders against the rat tail at 2600
I have the Raiders as well and then my flex is a guy named Devon Aitchin. I have Devon Aitchin, Tyree Kill, Malik
Washington, and Chua. Holy Lord! Okay, super duper stack. Yeah, you know. I mean, dolphins can swim so that
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We got an update.
One more update.
Another one.
Probably gonna have more even after the show's over.
We do have an Injury Blitz podcast available
to those who follow the show over at jointhefoot.com.
Matthew Betts comments on all the injury reports,
but very, very unlikely Jalen Hurts plays.
Press conference this morning, Nick Sirianni said
it's very unlikely that he can make it into that game.
So that's it, that's it.
I found him, found him right there, there he is.
It's cause I'm wearing a red and white striped shirt.
Yeah.
It's pretty easy to find you.
Out of the three of us, I found you.
And I'm looking very large.
And in charge.
Yeah.
It's bulk season, Mike.
All right.
Sunday live, some ensemble.
Might be just Mike.
It might be Mike and myself.
We'll see.
Who knows?
Sunday live at ballerslive.com for championship week.
And we'll keep you updated over on Twitter at the FF Ballers.
Maybe it's a good opportunity to tell you
you can follow the almost champion over there
at Producer Borland, right?
That is correct.
And he'll be tweeting slash sweating into Twitter,
something like that.
Yes, I'll keep you guys updated.
Keep your blood pressure down.
I got no control over that.
Don't consume any any external foods and drinks
that might inflate what your body's already
gonna try to do to itself.
Appreciate the tip, said Do-Do.
All right.
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