Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 17 Matchups + Championship Choices, Weather Worries? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/27

Episode Date: December 27, 2024

Week 17 start/sit advice and more on today’s fantasy football podcast! Matchup previews continued for Championship Week! Plus, injury updates, Mike spins the Wheel of Shame, and a quick recap of Thu...rsday Night Football. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for December 27th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (00:40) - TNF Recap (05:20) - FootClan Friday (07:15) - NFL News (18:00) - Fantasy Forecast (18:20) - Cowboys at Eagles (21:15) - Panthers at Buccaneers (24:55) - Titans at Jaguars (28:25) - Dolphins at Browns (32:10) - Packers at Vikings (35:35) - Falcons at Commanders (41:40) - Lions at 49ers (47:05) - Fantasy Faceoff/Wheel of Shame Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 save more, do more. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in! What was that? What was that? Oh, you're talking about the game? Welcome to the show, one and all. That's fine, you can about the game. Yeah. Oh Welcome to the show one and all I that's fine. You can get into it What is what is happening?
Starting point is 00:01:29 Look, I'll tell you what's happened Mike is tilting his face off every conceivable way every moment of every day 100% But also the last three games that we have gotten three primetime games. We have Like the Ravens they put up a bunch of points, yeah, but you had what, the Steelers scored 10, Houston was two, and then the Bears were three? This was six to three. The Seahawks whooped the Bears six to three.
Starting point is 00:02:00 This was a terrible football game and a new loser punishment for your league if you I I thought about this morning going on to Twitter and offering up a prize For somebody that delivers me a full live stream of them having to watch this game again Oh, man, so it you know, that's how that's like Guantanamo Bay stuff Yeah, I went too far Andy. I went to NFL comm this morning So it you know, that's how that's like Guantanamo Bay stuff I went too far Andy. I went to NFL comm this morning and the where's your humanity the main picture on NFL comm And I tweeted it it said rewatch
Starting point is 00:02:36 Seahawks Bears with NFL premium like cuz they what an ad, you know, and I was like, I don't think I will I dare you I dare you to watch that again What was that? It was another lump of coal. I think maybe players are distracted Christmas week Well look the preparation. I don't know You know it was a akin to what we saw from Houston's offense I mean Houston's offense scored fewer points than the Bears did. The Bears offense scored three.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Houston's offense did nothing. And they looked very similar, by the way. It was called an unmitigated pass rush and offensive play calling an awareness by the quarterback that was drunk. I mean, I don't know what it was. Like, can you call a play like you used to not be able to blitz? Good quarterbacks. It was like what they wanted you to do Kurt Warner. I wanted you to blitz him Drew Brees blitz him
Starting point is 00:03:34 I dare you All all Chicago did all game long was throw screen passes really really quickly to the outside where they had five defenders Well, don't forget the place where where Caleb would hold the ball for 15 seconds. It gets sacked. Towards the end of that game, I kept thinking they're going to have one play, just one play where they block someone. I was like, this is gonna happen. Caleb's gonna have someone blocked.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And it was just every single play the ball is there and so are the defenders. So I look I feel like we are doing a disservice to the show by uttering any more words about that game. Well we know there's people in the championship round that they need to hear. DJ Maher. They was fine enough. We need to channel their rage and them being upset but I I mean, no one was good.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Nobody was good in this game. Charbonne, like Charbonne to the eyeball, like I thought Sharps looked good. I was surprised they didn't keep feeding him the ball more and more and more, but he ends up 15 for 57. He did catch three passes, so, ah, fantasy-wise it's okay, but JSN It was JSN and Keenan Allen man. I mean guys who were
Starting point is 00:04:50 second half superstars JSN 3 for 32 Keenan 5 for 25 just if you started absolutely brutal if you started Nikol Collins or Joe Mixon You sure as heck hoped your opponent had DK Metcalf for JSN or Keenan Allen That was that's the balance of this week and we walked in and the first thing we said in the studio is like or Joe Mixon, you sure as heck hoped your opponent had DK Metcalf for J.S. in or Keenan Allen. That was, that's the balance of this week. And we walked in and the first thing we said in the studio was like, like this was a rainy game. Like this was a weather game.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It wasn't the worst we're gonna see this weekend. But Jason read off about 45 teams that have weather games this week. And it's going to blow up some games this weekend. That's going to happen. There are going to be games where you're, rolling your eyes into the back of your head because it should have been, could have been,
Starting point is 00:05:32 would have been the game you expected, and it was nothing because it's raining or windy or things of that nature. So if you had the bad game, like if you want a glass half full it, and you had Keyin in there, JSA in there, Metcalfe, you are now scanning the weather reports for your opponent's players.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah, and good news, it's bad for them. I am doing that right now. I am looking at Al Borland and I'm saying, Devontae Adams is playing in the rain, Jaden Daniels was playing in the rain, Cortland Sutton is playing in the rain. May they all slip and fall. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But guess what it's Friday Foot Clan Friday This week's winner of a $100 gift card to fantasy champs comm for supporting the show A member of the foot clan over at jointhefoot.com. This week's winner, Bicycle Bill! Oh! Bicycle Bill! Buffalo's brother?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yes, yes. I believe so. Half brother. Bicycle Bill, the winner, congratulations. Also, we'll send you a. Don't let me in with that guy. I wanna ride my bike. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:43 It puts the lotion on it But it's a good time to get that It is a good reminder for everyone who didn't win That fancy champs comm get your Trophies your rings if you win in your championship Oh Al just said he needs a fancy champs gift card because he's got it in the back. That's what he. Nice, I like it.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I didn't say that. You implied it. Did you really say that? You did imply it. I might have implied it. You implied it. Oh, okay. I want so badly to have a shot on Monday night
Starting point is 00:07:20 with Jameer Gibbs. And if I, when I say have a shot, I just want to be within 35 points. 35 points is what I want to be within. And I'll do that, what was your motion? Oh, that was still a one-off. That penalty, that's 15 yards. Oh yeah, that's a penalty.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah, the thumb was up, thumb was up. 15 yards. Oh my gosh. We got more matchups today. We always got you covered here. That's why we're here Friday, December 27th the final the final show before championship weekend and Very very excited to see who can bring home that hashtag foot clan title. Let's talk news
Starting point is 00:08:02 News and notes from around the league presented by USAA insurance. Let's begin with the tilt fast. That is the shutdown of CD lamb. City lamb is being shut down for the rest of the season. It's the right move for CD lamb. It's the wrong move for Michael Wright. Dude, you gotta wait one more week, Cowboys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 What's all this? I had people pay tickets to come see me play. I think that was CD. This is the difference. This is why I thought when we had the quote from John Gannon about is Connor gonna play? Connor wanted to play. He's like, we're gonna do what what's best for Connor, the best for the team. CD lamb wants to play, but the Cowboys are actually doing what is best for the team and for CD lamb, which is protecting himself from himself. He shouldn't be playing
Starting point is 00:08:54 football for the NFL. It just stinks that it's championship week for a lot of people. If I were CD lamb and I knew they were going to shut me down, putting out a quote like people pay to come and see me play, so I'm gonna play. That's exactly what I would have done. Oh, so you look like the best. Yeah. Everybody loves me. This guy's fighting through the pain
Starting point is 00:09:13 that all the teams should, it's the team, guys. Oh, man. Next level CD. There's so many fundamental elements to these decisions. I mentioned the fact that, like, the report we have this morning is that it's looking likely the Cardinals will have James Connor on Saturday night. For those wondering yesterday you wanted to put me on the spot. What was I going to do? I needed more Intel.
Starting point is 00:09:32 As of right now, Connor's going to be in over McMillan. But part of the factor there is, well, he had a couple of limited practices, seems to be doing well. The intricacies of the injuries and risk of re-injury is a factor for these teams. Like, C.D. Lamb at any moment with an AC joint sprain, he falls on his shoulder all game long. You are risking a re-injury to a great degree. And for the Cardinals,
Starting point is 00:09:57 they are in the position to play spoiler. They can disrupt the Rams making the playoffs a divisional matchup. And so, you know, there's things that we don't know. We don't know the severity of Connor's reinjury risk, but all that stuff swirls around to these decisions. We'll know more and I'm gonna stay water. That's an expression we use all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'm not gonna lock in my take here on a Friday morning if I get new information. Yeah, if I get new information tomorrow, it'll be McMillan on Sunday morning. But as of right now, that's what I get new information. Yeah, if I get new information tomorrow, it'll be McMillan on Sunday morning. But as of right now, that's what I'm gonna do. I would have, speaking of the Cowboys, I would have shut him down like a month ago. So, me too.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Every time he goes down on that shoulder and gets up and you just, you're like, this man is in an immense amount of pain. I'm like, no, franchise face, CD-LAM? No, we're not gonna do this to you. No, you're out of the playoffs. So, yeah. Unfortunately, he will not be helping you win a title.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I only think they were eliminated two weeks ago. Then that's when they should have shut him down. Mathematically. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. And T Higgins, questionable, limited three times this week. Gus Edwards ruled out. J.K. Dobbins, it's still not a guarantee, but it looks like he'll be back.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I saw some less guaranteed reports. I mean, maybe you guys saw something different. I have not. Obviously, with Edwards not available, you'd think he's there. Yeah, but Gus being out gives me, it should Dobbins be active? Like, Gus Edwards is the only competition to JK Dobbins be active?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Gus Edwards is the only competition to JK Dobbins on this team, and JK Dobbins, at least what we saw for the majority of the year, is a much better player at this point. Vidal Sessun is not a real threat. No, he's a hair product. Yes, technically he is. So, follow the news, but it's certainly trending like Dobbins
Starting point is 00:11:48 is gonna be a startable player. It's worth saying this show isn't going anywhere just because championship week is over. Like we'll be here for the most painful week of the season, week 18, where all we're doing is talking about guys getting sat down, because there'll be a lot of them. But then we're here beyond.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Well, you know, this show is a year round fantasy football podcast. To infinity. And we have a lot of them. But then we're here beyond. This show is a year-round fantasy football podcast. To infinity. And we have a lot of fun in the offseason. We get to reflect on the reality, the truth, of the season. We get to begin projecting so soon. I'm already watching college film,
Starting point is 00:12:18 watching college tight ends, see what the next number one overall tight end will be this upcoming year. We're going to do it twice. I mean, two times in a row. Yeah, it appears so. Alvin Kamara did not practice, although not ruled out, for the Saints, Kamara, Connor. Why? Pride, man, pride in being there for your team.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Is this, does this mean that, like, we haven't, I haven't seen any report on Derek Carr, but like if Olave's practicing, and Kamara's trying to make an opponent to play. And Olave might, yeah. That's what I'm saying, is Derek Carr, but like if Olave's practicing and Kamara's trying to make a push to play. And Olave might, yeah. That's what I'm saying, is Derek Carr, like are they just gonna have like their whole team back other than Taysom just unexpectedly for no reason?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Possibly, possibly. We got word yesterday that Anthony Richardson's still not practicing, first team reps going to Joe Flacco. Oh boy. I saw a question in Superflex League, Bryce Young or Joe Flacco of Flacco plays. I went with Flacco, that matchup. Yeah, they both have very good matchups.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Flacco was really bad last we saw him. It's a Giants matchup. Yeah, I do lean the Flacco side. Malik, neighbors Tyrone Tracy, both did not practice on Thursday, we're still waiting for updated reports there. Neighbors there was a quote from Neighbors that he basically put himself as a game time decision. Neat. Yeah I think he is very questionable. If you've got Neighbors you need to be
Starting point is 00:13:38 prepared to pivot because I you know as of right now I was looking at him in certain lineups I'm like no I'm not putting him in you need To have a pivot that works with the game time of your player this week because we've got games all over the place. So What time is the the neighbors game? Is that a Sunday? I'll look that up. Yeah Giants 1 p.m Eastern on Sunday, so if you have a bench pivot and they play on Saturday in the three Saturday games, that's not gonna work You're either gonna have to make the call on Saturday and not play it It's worth it's worth mentioning if you're going to not play a player who plays on Saturday if you're not going to play them Depending on your league platforms cut them cut them cut them. Yeah, they won't be available for waivers No one can pick them up. You don't need them next week if this is your championship. Give yourself the roster spot. Yeah. So if you need to add someone,
Starting point is 00:14:27 you don't even have to pick someone else up. Just cut them if you're not going to play them on Saturday. Hundred percent. Very important. And you started saying all of that like a Dr. Seuss poem. Nice. If you're gonna play a player and you play a player player. K-Dot did not practice. Not gonna be back out there. It doesn't look like Jalen Hurts didn't practice. Uh-oh. Jalen Hurts probably knocked you out last week, but he's not gonna be back out there, it doesn't look like. Jalen Hurts didn't practice, uh oh. Jalen Hurts probably knocked you out last week, but he's not gonna be a part of your championship week, most likely.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And same goes for David Najoku, Jalen Waddle. We haven't seen a practice from Toling Pollard all week. Who? Tony Pollard. Oh, I heard like Toling. Yeah, Toling Pollard. I might have been too busy looking at my listener league team where Tony Pollard is one of my starters Oh, no, he's not and he's not
Starting point is 00:15:11 Hypothetical situation for someone totally different than me Tony Pollard or I'm gonna take the or Well, I'd say double or Kendre Miller Antonio Gibson are the two who pivot's Oh Kendre Miller and Tonio Gibson are the two pivots. So if Tony Pollard doesn't play, I think it's Pollard. I think you're putting Pollard in there. You don't want negative points. You want that good morale. I think it's Kendre from those.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Gross, dude. And I had Jaylen Warren in that league, who had a nice week. But I felt the need to wait. Pollard, good matchup. Spears is gonna be a really good play. All right that was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Oh did I miss the Devonte Adams line? Yeah. He did not practice again on Thursday Al. Yeah I know. What you gonna do? I mean if
Starting point is 00:16:02 I have to start Mooney that that's the guy I got waiting. That's your pivot? Yep. I hope it stresses you out. Kevin Roth from Roto Grinders, who is just, he's a tremendous weather source. His modeling right now, again, we're in model season, so you gotta wait on the weather, but.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Blue Steel? The Jets. I mean, he's a sharp-looking fella, if that's where we're going. So you gotta wait on the weather, but. Blue Steel? The Jets. He's a sharp looking fella, if that's where we're going. But the model right now, he is very concerned about the Jets-Buffalo game for potential heavy rain. To be fair, in case you need to pivot to Mooney, he is also considered about potential heavy rain for that game in Washington.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Dude, there's not. Yeah, there's not a lot of, there's not a lot of games where you're not, double guessing, or is that the expression I'm looking for? Yep, oh, totally. Double guessing. Yeah, you double guessed it. I think second guessing. Second guessing.
Starting point is 00:16:58 No, no, no, no. Dang it. Oh, you're wrong, it's definitely double. Dang it, yesterday Jason went with the unremember, which is exactly what I wanted to do with the Chicago-Seattle game. I wanted to unremember that that ever happened. That was on the footcast, jointhe wrong. Dang it, yesterday Jason went with the unremember, which is exactly what I wanted to do with the Chicago-Seattle game. I wanted to unremember that that ever happened. That was on the footcast, jointhefoot.com.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Oh, is that what it was? Okay, yeah, Jason threw out an unremember instead of forget, which, look, beautiful turn of phrase. With all the AI and the power of scheduling and everything, NFL, there's a lot of domes out there. AI and the power of scheduling and everything. NFL, there's a lot of domes out there. Look, I want every team to play in a dome. I know that's not a realistic thing.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You know the- What if we just schedule it though so like right now- There's more domes now. People are in domes. You're willing to make a compromise. That's right. You know that they can't build that many stadiums that fast. Just schedule.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And outdoor football when the weather is great, is, it's a beautiful majestic and so much better. I wouldn't know the seasons where weather is bad, Mike. You know who might? Jerry. Jerry Jones. Yeah. We've got quantum, we got the new quantum computers coming out from Google. Jerry. with certainty. You should be able to do that. If you're a multiverse weather. Let's go. Okay that was today's News and Notes presented by USA Insurance. Learn
Starting point is 00:18:30 more at usaa.com slash insurance. We'll take a break and we'll get into the matchups. It's time for Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Well yesterday we covered three Saturday games, Chargers Patriots, Broncos Bengals, Cardinals Rams. On Sunday games we covered Jets, Bills, Raiders, Saints, Colts, Giants and We are we're getting into it Dallas seven and eight Philly twelve and three Philly seven point favorites over under thirty eight and a half. This is a game that Vegas expects Philly to win on defense Which they should be able to do with no CD Lamb and Dallas has a 15.8 point implied point total.
Starting point is 00:19:29 That's the lowest I've seen this year, I think. It's real close. I think there was one that was lower, but yeah, in the 15s is not a normal thing on a weekly basis at all. This makes it really hard to me to have confidence in Rico Dowdell. Yes, it is devastating for Rico.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Rico, I mean, he's got a DK rushing line of 58 and a half yards, which isn't. Under. Yeah, give me the under. I think so as well. You've got a bad week last week, and without CD Lamb against a really good Philly defense. And this is going to be a conservative team,
Starting point is 00:20:05 probably offensively a little bit, because I don't expect to have Jalen Hurts there. Low scoring game. It means that the only, really the only player you're even considering on the Cowboys side is Rico, and if they're not scoring points against a good defense, I don't wanna play him.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I'd actually take the under and the total points. Oh yeah. So you're gonna write off Ferguson? Yeah I think I am. Ferguson would be the biggest beneficiary in this dink and dunk to survive situation. I was gonna ask you if you had to make a desperation pivot to a wide receiver would it be Tolbert, would it be Cooks? It would probably be sadness. It would be Cooks. I would probably be Sadness. It would be Cooks. Yeah, I'd go, I think I'd go Cooks. Yeah, Brandon Cooks if you have to,
Starting point is 00:20:49 but I think there's better pivot options out there. As far as Ferguson, maybe he has an uptick. He had nine targets last week and you'd be like, oh great, but since he's been back from injury, I mean 30 yards, 20 yards, last week on those nine targets, 40 yards, like there's not much there on the other side it's hard to be as confident with AJ Brown and Devontae Smith if it's Kenny Pickett in a game that might be like you said a more
Starting point is 00:21:13 conservative offense utilizing Kenneth Gainwell, Saquon heading towards the record I mean he's 268 rushing yards away just imagine imagine if he puts up another 150 in this game and What you're looking at going into the final week of the season would maybe Not as much on the line and yet that record right there the motivation for Saquon going after that record is like I expect them to Really really really rely on the run game and be opening things up for him this week. So 110 and a half rushing yard line. I think he obviously you're starting Saquon, but I believe you could be really confident in his end of game superiority this week. He should be a top five back.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Moving on to Carolina 4 and 11 against the eight-7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers who are fighting for their lives. The DraftKings Sportsbook line, Tampa minus 8, they're at home. The over-under is 48.5. This is another game where we're going to see some weather. And anything from scattered showers to some wind gusts, I think this is one you're gonna need to track a little bit. My biggest concern here, like I've been pretty pro McMillan in the early part of this week. I still think he's gonna have the opportunity. But I mean, you've got two starts of the week at the running back position right here in the show.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And Mike and I went with Bucky Irving and Rashad White, because the Carolina running defense is, I mean, it should be in quotes, it should be in quotes and this is a game where I think you know that motivation difference, the fact Tampa is fighting for their lives, that the front seven, the opportunity to push guys around that are pushed you know you can easily push them around in Carolina. I think Bucky Irving he's got a rush receiving line of 98 and a half. Nice. And I think those guys are going to be the dominators in this one. I'm becoming more hesitant about Baker having a big game. I think I'll have a good game. Where are you guys at with this matchup and all of the pieces involved?
Starting point is 00:23:19 This is one of the games I'm like really really hopeful that the wind and isn't very bad here. There should be a little bit of rain but I want the pieces in this game. I think Thielin on one side should have to keep up with a very very bad secondary for the Bucks. Vita Vea has made it very difficult to run on them and you can throw on them. So I think Adam Thielen's a great play. Bucky, Rashad White, Mike Evans is so close to his thousand yards. He needs 182 yards. Yeah, so he needs 182 yards. He's going to be force-fed the ball. I really, I really, really like almost everybody. The only concerning play, I mean Bryce young and super flex
Starting point is 00:24:05 I think you could put him in Chuba is a little bit believable last week. Yeah, I mean he was so good But over the last six weeks gonna be harder. You've seen Tampa really shut down the the running game Yeah, I don't want to throw too much cold water on that office Tampa's got an implied point total of 28. So McMillan, Evans, White, Irving, Baker, all in play. And I think the weather is going to be okay. I don't want to overstate it. Did we say that Shepard has not practiced this week?
Starting point is 00:24:36 Sterling Shepard has not practiced this week. So like that just... And Kade on now. Yeah. So I mean, so the like, the Jalen McMillan confidence because of those players being, like it matters. Yeah. So wait, you're telling me that there's a team implied for almost 30 points
Starting point is 00:24:55 who's lost two of his main targets. What are you doing? What are you doing? McMillan, McMillan looks like a good option, huh? I think he is a good option. Even maybe even better than James Connor. I think he is a good option. Maybe even better than James Connor. I think he could be. He could be, they'll be close.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I'm sure it'll go down to the wire. We'll see what happens on Saturday. Oh wait, no, that is Saturday. Connor Saturday, son of a gun. All right, Thielen, 54 and a half. You talked about Chuba, Bryce Young and company. Ligette's not, or he's limited. And a dart throw would be Coker in that game
Starting point is 00:25:28 if you can't run on Tampa. That's your wild dart throw of the week. Tennessee's three and 12, Jacksonville's three and 12, Jacksonville one point home favorites, overrunners 39 and a half. Scattered showers possible, gross, gross, gross. Jacksonville and Tennessee are three and four. Like the winner of this game is the loser of this game.
Starting point is 00:25:49 That is 100% the case. These teams are motivated to lose. And yet. I mean the management, not the players. No, and it's just what makes the NFL so unique. It's why Connor wants to play, it's why Camaro wants to play, it's why Olavi wants to play. Is that there is the brotherhood locker room aspect of the game.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Who wants to be here next year is part of what happens. All of these guys are fighting for paychecks, right? Yes, maybe Kamara and Connor get to come back no matter what, but are you out there for your brothers? Are you out there fighting to get them a paycheck for next season? Those things come into play. So in this game, goodness gracious, Chigga Conquo. You should play him. Jacksonville just gave up 10 plus catches to Brock Bowers last week. 34, or I'm sorry, they're not good against tight ends.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Just to go back for a second, just to illustrate how bad it will be for whoever wins this game. I mean, because these are two, three, and 12 teams. You look at the record, you've got New England three and 12, Jacksonville three and 12, Tennessee three and 12, Cleveland three and 12, Vegas three and 12. You're gonna, you have the chance to go from like the second to the like out of the date night yeah I mean it's it's a
Starting point is 00:27:11 like these teams should be trying to tie or something but but they won't they won't and so who do you think is just like last week we said with the Raiders game similar situation it was which team is worst coached that's who's gonna win Raiders won so is this Jacksonville Jacksonville wins this one well I think maybe Tampa's or Tennessee is soft on defense maybe you know I think I have more trust that Mac Jones is gonna air it out and I think Mason Rudolph's gonna play conservatively. The over-under is low. I think it's a three-point game,
Starting point is 00:27:50 and I don't know who wins. And whoever wins loses. So ETN, his rushing line is 38 and a half. Goodness gracious. Try to do something else. Like Brian Thomas is the player you play. Because he's been unbelievable, double-digit targets. Chig, Brian Thomas. Rid player you play. Yeah, because he's been unbelievable double-digit targets chig Brian Thomas Ridley is a you can play right touchdown
Starting point is 00:28:10 Opportunity and then Tajay Spears Jason you mentioned it if Pollard misses which for goodness sakes, Tennessee Give us this if you're going to be this bad. Just give us some clarity at running back I'm not because Tony Pollard can have an injured Tony Pollard can run on one of the worst run defenses. Yeah Tony Pollard. I'll play him if he's active. You'll play Tony Pollard. Yeah over Kendre Miller or Gibson or anybody. Yeah if you're that low I think you're right. But for ETN. I think if Tony Pollard is active Tajay Spears is still a player you can start. Tony Pollard was active the last two weeks when when Spears was the a player you can start. Tony Pollard was active the last two weeks when Spears was the running back five
Starting point is 00:28:47 and the running back 12. Exactly, wink. Last week he missed practice the whole week, Pollard did, and then played, but played a minority of the snaps, ceded a ton of work to Pollard who is used both around the goal line and in the passing aim. So in this matchup against Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:29:06 I think Spears is an okay play. Miami 7-8 taking on the 3-12 Cleveland Browns, another over-under-under 40. Miami 6.5 point road favorites. Heavy rain is in the forecast. Miami needs to stay alive. They've got to win. They have a slim chance but they
Starting point is 00:29:25 could do it but if LA and Denver wins on Saturday they're toast and both of them play on Saturday so there's that Miami to a a Chan Tyreek John new Smith any hesitation with those core four. No hesitation for John who Tyreek is just it's it will be interesting to get actual information at the end of the season of like what happened. How do you go from Tyreek of last year where wasn't he chasing the record. Yeah. And then you go from that to where we are right now,
Starting point is 00:30:06 which is on pace for, he's on pace for under a thousand yards. I was just going to look at that. He's at 834. But you have to remember how many games he missed this year. Which was none. He has not missed a single game this year. From 1799 to 834.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And we did get the report of like back when he had his his incident with the with the police and he said he got hurt during that so that's what I mean of like how do you go from last year to this but I'm still I'm still playing. Dolphins have made a choice that if they want to have two as their quarterback they change the outfits. His average yards per completion was, you know, went from, or sorry, average depth of target went from nine to seven to now five. Like, like, I don't know if it's depth of target
Starting point is 00:30:56 or average completion, but they've all gone down because this is the way you play with a quarterback that has the risk of being knocked out for his career if he's hit. So you have to make the adjustment if you want out for his career if he's hit. Yeah. So you have to make the adjustment if you want him as your quarterback. Or they've chosen to. Some of that and also just can they, they know they can't run the ball.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Like HN on the ground is not what HN was last year where he was basically every time he was handed the ball you're like, oh here comes a 20 yard run that has not been The case this year. He's gone from seven point eight yards per attempt to four point two, which is still really good, but Yeah, not having the long plays like last year on the other side Dorian Thompson Robinson Could be him. He's been limited could be Bailey's Zappi. Could be a combo. What's crazy is, DTR, his... Oh, was average at the target. I don't know if you could call it a superpower, but his only ability... His strongest trait as a quarterback is...
Starting point is 00:31:59 Is the wheels. Is to run. And if he's got a calf issue, and he's a little bit immobilized and he's gonna be a pocket passer. You guys done with Judy for the year? Yeah. I don't know how you can start him. I am starting him in one league that I just kinda have to but I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Same with Jerome Ford. I have to play him. He's DK rushing yard. That's not high. Is at 50 and a half. Yeah. Miami's defense, very good against running backs for fantasy purposes. I don't want to play anyone on the Browns.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You have David Najoku who is hurt. He hasn't practiced all week. Getting an MRI. And Ford is, everyone on this team, I'll just put it this way, is it's more of a desperate start. Brown and out. We're not doing it. We're not messing around with that team. Implied point total is 16.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Green Bay is 11 and four, Minnesota 13 and two. Here's what's interesting. DraftKings Sportsbook Line, we have double checked this. It's Green Bay minus one on the road. That's pretty crazy. Over-under is 48. Why?
Starting point is 00:33:09 We know something you don't know. Yeah, I know. It does feel like that. It's like you're going up against a 13-win team at home, and they are the underdogs, which seems pretty crazy. Now, the Packers, the Packers have been a great team in their own right. You've got to remember they lost Jordan Love for a little bit of the year and
Starting point is 00:33:29 so as an 11-win team, obviously these are two very, very good teams. Green Bay scored 30-plus in five straight. I love that this game is in a dome and has a 48 point over and under. On this week, this is the game that I want. Now I do worry a little bit because you have two good defenses here and it's a divisional game. So does this turn into one of those
Starting point is 00:33:55 really disappointing defensive slugfests? It could, but I also look at this game as one of the few games on the slate this week where it's like you could get a back and forth offensive output without worry about rain and you know even if the first half starts slow once teams start scoring and the other one has to catch up these are two teams that generally do you know if the Vikings are down they're they're generally gonna air it out and catch up and same for the
Starting point is 00:34:20 Packers. Well the Vikings stopped the run too I like Jordan Love in this game I think Jordan Love has a great opportunity to kind of put it all on display here. This is a game they need him to do that. Jaden Reed in the mix then. If you want to hit the nitro boost, you want a shot as an underdog, your shot's probably not Adam Thielen.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It's probably somebody like Jaden Reed. Or Dontavian Wicks. Christian Watson has not been practicing this week. Dontavian Wicks, the matchup against Minnesota, the deep passing on that secondary when you can't run on them is great. So that's my dart throw of the week for if you need a guy off of waivers that you could throw into your lineup, you know, if he was available, instead of my Jerry Judy, I would 100% put Dontavian Wicks in over Jerry Judy.
Starting point is 00:35:04 What if like Romeo Dobbs was available though? Dobbs is an okay play too, I mean. Okay, thank goodness. Is he playing for you? Dude, I have no choice. They were like, yeah, CD Lamb, he's done for the year. Ken, Ken Bonewalker, oh, he's, no, he's done. CMC, done.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah, so, you know, cool. You have so much depth in your dynasty team, and I've always thought, I was like, man, you could consolidate some of that for more power. Thank goodness you got it. No! Jefferson. You no longer have depth.
Starting point is 00:35:35 No, I do not. You just have starters now. Aaron Jones, Jefferson Addison, play them. Hawkinson, he is a sketchy play. He is. Chig or Hawkinson? he is a sketchy play. He is. Chig or Hawkinson? I'm gonna go Chig. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 That's the number one search on our website. It, that one is not like, I can pound the table with complete confidence that say, O'Conquist will have a better game than Hawkinson, but the volume for Hawkinson is just, it's not there right now. Okay, anybody else in that matchup that you wanna talk about?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Josh Jacobs, he's been dominant. Yeah, I mean. Aaron Jones receiving in rushing line is 86 1 1 2. Jacobs is in a bad spot against Minnesota, but it doesn't matter. Sunday Night Football is Atlanta and Michael Pinnix Jr., eight and seven, with the ability to hold on to their top spot in the division facing the commanders. What pick was Pinnix? 8 I
Starting point is 00:36:33 think. So the eighth pick versus the second? Yeah. Washington three and a half point favorites. The overrunners 47 and a half. Kyle I don't know if you know where it opened. This is a game where rain is likely it could be heavy rain it's on Sunday night so I'll get to watch it in isolation as each drip drop falls down onto the field now you do have a running quarterback you know that though right like that's a good thing yep looks like the line open minus four and a half sorry I'm in the over under do we know an overnight is the over under. Do we know an over? Is the over under adjusted due to weather?
Starting point is 00:37:08 It's held steady. OK. All right. Both teams highly, highly motivated. Washington clenches a playoff spot if they can win this game. Atlanta clenches the division if they can win this game, which is wild. I know because of how bad they've been for the last two months. What is the Tampa scenario this week because Tampa has to lose. Well no for that's for Atlanta's purpose I'm saying if if Tampa wins which they're playing Carolina and heavily favored and Atlanta loses which they're underdogs
Starting point is 00:37:42 that gives Tampa the yeah I'm trying to see they play they play the Saints final week yeah yeah if Tampa Bay wins and Atlanta loses that puts them back into the lead okay so Tampa can take the lead I just wanted to know what that sets up for the final week there Washington it's been really really special Jaden Daniels his passing and rushing yard line 273.5 now Terry McLaurin didn't practice Wednesday limited on Thursday is this just maintenance for their main guy I mean I haven't heard anything to the contrary yeah to the contrary of that yeah we, we're playing Terry.
Starting point is 00:38:26 We've also got Bijan Robinson in this game, another one of Al's guys. Maybe Darnell Mooney in this game. I mean, Al is needing this game to be a good one. Okay. I think it could be. The fact that the over-under is held and hasn't moved due to weather fears. That's good. And Bijon is
Starting point is 00:38:47 going to get a ton of work in this game, especially if there's bad weather. His rushing attempt line is 18 and a half. So Bijon should get plenty of action. And that's really where people have beaten the commanders is more on the ground versus through the air. Did you guys see, maybe you read this, did you see this crazy stat? This is the first ever regular season matchup in week 15 or later between two rookie quarterbacks where both teams are over 500. That seems impossible.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It is a wild stat. I genuinely thought the wild stat to you was gonna be the fact that their head coach. Where's a hat? Has gone backwards hat in 12 or 15 games. Is that? Oh my gosh. Because Kyle, of course, knows that.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Dan Quinn. 12 or 15 games with backwards hat, which I think we all admit, he looks kind of silly, right? He looks so stupid with the backwards hat. It's like he's trying to look young. Can you try that for a second? From silly to stupid? Can you try the backwards hat, Jay?
Starting point is 00:39:52 Let me see. Let me see if your takes are different. I don't know. They're a lot cooler and edgier. You feel kind of cool? That's for sure. I'm so much younger now, man. Right, guys?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Hello, kids. Brian Robinson, what are you doing oh man Jason had a backwards hat streak a few years ago according to Kyle yeah you were rocking the backwards hat I did yeah was this a little bit of the midlife crisis oh probably for sure that's been running a couple years strong oh it's going forever yeah I plan, because I'm hoping that it's- It will be an end of life crisis too. I'm hoping that the end of my life will just keep extending thanks to AI and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:40:33 So- Stay in the mid. So I'll just constantly be in my midlife. Brian- Until our new overlords take us down. Oh, the AI overlords. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But they'll know the weather. Brian Robinson jr. or Jerome Ford. Oh man I think I'm gonna go B-Rob. I'll go
Starting point is 00:40:52 Robinson. B-Rob had a very bad game last week obviously lost the two fumbles it was against the Philadelphia Eagles who are so tough but even just a week prior he had 21 carries three receptions he was the running back 24 the game previous he was a top 10 running back I think B Rob is a player that is fine to start we did get updated news here Malik neighbors Tyron Tracy both will practice on Friday hopefully they play on Sunday I mean that's a lot better than a game time decision, Mr. Neighbors. How you feel about Drake London?
Starting point is 00:41:28 With Michael Penix, who, you know. Michael Penix looked good. I don't know how he'll play in the rain, and that concerns me more. 200 yards, no touchdowns. Yeah, that concerns me a little bit more. He had eight targets, caught 63% of them. Yeah, I don't view him really much differently
Starting point is 00:41:45 than when Cousins was there. Mooney was five for 82 last week, he's a flex play? Yep, yep. All right, Zach Hurts probably off the table for you after a one for 12, coming off the concussion. I wouldn't do it. All right, we will. And the matchup is tough.
Starting point is 00:42:02 The Falcons are stronger against tight ends. Oh, fun fact for you. Chris Godwin still has 30 more receiving yards than Kyle Pitts. I did see that. We'll take a break. We'll hit the Monday Night Football game so Al can think about it even more.
Starting point is 00:42:18 ["The Daily Show Theme"] ["The Daily Show Theme"] Detroit, San Francisco, Monday Night Football Football the final game of championship week and yes we have some players that matter. Detroit three and a half point road favorites the over-under is a beautiful spectacular 50.5 which is the exact total I expect from Jameer Gibbs in this game 50.5. Clear skies good weather whoo this is the way to finish the championship week. Fun fact the 49 Gibbs in this game 50.5 clear skies good weather This is the way to finish the championship week fun fact the 49ers are 25th against running backs on the year 28th over the last six weeks what position does Gibbs play?
Starting point is 00:42:59 Jameer Gibbs is indeed a running back Hmm owl. How are you feeling about this matchup? I just need to go into it up 45. Okay, there you go. So Detroit favored, highly motivated, they are the number one seed. If they win and Minnesota loses to Green Bay, which Minnesota's now 1.9 or no, they can lock up the number one.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Oh man, I really hope that doesn't happen. Is it locked? Yeah, because they play each other next week. They play each other next week but I think the division schedule the Lions have it. I think that is right so I want that week 18 Lions Vikings matchup to be for the bye so I guess I'm rooting for the Vikings this week. Both teams we know it the Lions the 49ers ravaged by injuries Detroit is 22 players on IR this number one San Francisco 15 players we do expect Isaac Gurindo back out on the field that's a good thing right? Yeah that's definitely a good thing and while usually competitive usually you worry about you
Starting point is 00:44:01 just can't run on the Lions because of those injuries the last few weeks people have been running Pretty well against them Brock Purdy and Jared Goff. Are they both in play this week? I got pretty as my start of the week I think they yeah, I think they both are the Jared Goff gets the Like the the the 49ers have been strong against fantasy quarterbacks second on the year seventh over the past six weeks But not having David Montgomery there. I think, puts golf a little bit more, higher probability of having a good game. If you were staring down Debo versus Juan Jennings and you're trying not to be too reactionary, the receiving yard's line is significantly higher for Jennings?
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah. Is that who you'd go with? That is who I would go with. And you're bringing up the exact reason why. Debo's receiving lines at 48 and 1 half versus Joann Jennings at 64 and 1 half. And while last week you had Debo very involved in the running game with a handful of carries. And the Paris game. It's 7 for 96 through the year.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah, but the additional work in the running game, I feel feel like put him maybe where I would start him over Jennings But that was without Gerindo what I couldn't go that way. Yes, would it flip it? Yes, it would that if Gerindo does not play then I'd go say a Debo Huge game last week from Jameson Williams almond Ross a Brown Gibbs and golf all in play Just so you know Mike you said you wanted more fun facts. Sam Laporta. I do. He's been the tight end five over the last seven weeks played.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Okay. And they have needed him more. They've utilized him more. His last four weeks, tight end eight, 11, one, and five. He has scored three touchdowns in the last four weeks. And I think. The last three weeks, seven targets, last three weeks seven targets ten targets seven targets That's the more that's the most important thing to me because you you had some stretches earlier this year where he had good games
Starting point is 00:45:53 But it was because just happened to have touchdowns and it wasn't really involved the the involvement over the last little bit the loss Of David Montgomery meaning I think they really need to rely on Jared Goff for the passing game a little bit more. Like, Chig or Laporta, I'm going Laporta. Just so you know, before Montgomery went out, average opportunities per game for Jameer Gibbs was 16.8. First game without Montgomery, he received 28 opportunities.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Holy moly. 28 opportunities. It probablyly. 28 opportunities. It probably won't matter, but I hope it does. I hope, I mean, if it's 40 point lead, I'm still gonna have a glimmer in the back of my head. Oh, you'll have some hope. I'm still gonna have a glimmer. Yep, and you should.
Starting point is 00:46:38 If it gets to 50, I'm not gonna have a glimmer. Yes, you will. But I did watch, for inspiration this morning all six Alvin Kamara Christmas touchdowns. I watched them all. Were they good? They were great because it was like one two three four five six. Didn't they pull like they had seven. He could have had seven. There was a like a Taysom touchdown or something. Yeah. And that game stayed competitive. That's why I wanna see the 49ers go out here and make this game competitive.
Starting point is 00:47:09 It's why I like the defensive injuries for Detroit for the sake of the fantasy output. And we do have an injury update. Jaylen Waddle trending towards questionable tags. And Mike McDaniel says he's optimistic he can play. Wow, oh. Which would delete Malik Washington from desperation's start category.
Starting point is 00:47:28 It deletes him. I also think there's been a handful of people I've seen questions where John-U Smith has been kind of the answer for the, a flex option as a second tight end. And depending on who your option is, that might have an effect on John-U. All right, we're into the face-off
Starting point is 00:47:50 Fantasy face-off presented by draft Kings Well, it was a close one last week the Devon H hand play gave Jason hope in one of his matchups But it gave me the victory 157 Jason 155 Mike at 116 my my my Theraflu lineup did not know I'm through no it didn't and that's why this button has to get pushed wheel of shame Wheel of Shame Alright, spin the wheel! I saw a Fire Me Up, an Ice Man, a Looney Tunes, where- what is it? That's really small. Where's the idiot? Oh, okay. Where's the idiot? Where's the idiot? Oh. OK. OK.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Where's the idiot? OK. Found him! OK. I think we're going to be able to find him. Yeah. For those listening. Oh, stretch it out over the.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah, you got to stretch it out over the noggin. Yeah, oh, that's tough. This is going to be a where's Waldo. Yeah, I take issue with you guys insinuating that Waldo is an idiot It's more you or him. Yeah, well those a man of the world. Yeah, this is as are you? I mean you've been lots of places. Yeah, so including the bottom of this shame. Oh, that looks great. Where's Waldo? Oh, this looks really good. Yeah, I've been working out Well, let's start to line up as you as you up found him found the idiot. No, no, no, hold on need the glasses
Starting point is 00:49:28 Now I am because of the glasses people with glasses look like idiots. Yeah. Oh wait Huh what nothing? All right. Hey listen, let's let uh, let's let waldo kick it off here Who's your quarterback this week? Is Waldo trying not to be found? I gotta think so, because if he was trying to be found, he should just change into something that everyone else isn't wearing.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Wearing candy cane striped hat and shirt is not the way to be incognito. And you don't blend into a crowd that way. Let's not overanalyze this, Mike. Let's just get you your line up. All right. Am I first? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Quarterback Jordan Love at 6,200 against Minnesota. I have quarterback Jordan Love. I'm sorry, Papa Josh says, stripes add 50 pounds. Yeah. It's definitely not the sweatshirt. Mike's looking, oh, because horizontal. Yeah, it's horizontal. Stripes definitely do make you look larger.
Starting point is 00:50:24 But when you put them on over your jacket, over your shirt. Alright sorry who's your quarterback? Jordan Love. As is mine 6200. Oh you both went that way. I actually went to a 5800 saved a few bucks. Very important game for Miami. Enjoy that weather. That's what I'm going to go with. Well he throws the ball five yards he don't care. run through the air. At the running back position johnny taylor against the new york giants at seventy nine hundred and then jason's forever superstar star of the week
Starting point is 00:50:54 breece hall against the buffalo bills at sixty three hundred. I have jonathan taylor as well at seventy nine hundred and i paid up for seqwon barkley at eighty six hundred and I paid up for Saquon Barkley at 8,600. I have Jonathan Taylor as well, so we all have him at 7,900. I went Bucky Irving, and he's my start of the week. It's the Carolina game. I mean, 6,700 for Irving seemed like a slam dunk. Mike, your three wide outs.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I got old man Adam Feehlin at 5,700, going up against Jalen McMillan who's only 4600 so hoping that that game could actually do something then I saved some cash here we're going with Don Tavian Wicks that is my stack he's only 3900 and it looks like Christian Watson may or may not play. I have Don Tavian Wicks and Jaylen McMillan as well. You're right. No! Yeah, so I've got those guys, and then Jaden Reed at 5,900, so I'm stacking twice with my dude.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I'm doing a double stack as well. I've locked it in, I didn't have time to pivot after the waddle news at the end. So I've got Tyree Kill at 6,900, and Malik Washington at just 4,000. I also have McMillan. Okay. At a tight end, I imagine this is a pure wash.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I have Oconquo, he has 3,600. It's the same. Yeah. Okay, then Jason, I also have Saquon Barkley at 8,600. So I mean, I paid up, we're going heavy on the running backs. We have very similar lineups again. Heavy on the running backs this week and then I have the Miami Dolphins against whoever the Cleveland Browns put out there for quarterback That's a very nice defense. I have Bucky Irving in my flex at
Starting point is 00:52:36 6700 and the Raiders against the rat tail at 2600 I have the Raiders as well and then my flex is a guy named Devon Aitchin. I have Devon Aitchin, Tyree Kill, Malik Washington, and Chua. Holy Lord! Okay, super duper stack. Yeah, you know. I mean, dolphins can swim so that weather's not a problem. No, good point. That was Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app right now. Use the code ballers. That's the code ballers and take advantage of special daily promotions. Only on DraftKings, the app right now. Use the code ballers, that's the code ballers, and take advantage of special daily promotions. Only on DraftKings, the crown is yours. We got an update.
Starting point is 00:53:09 One more update. Another one. Probably gonna have more even after the show's over. We do have an Injury Blitz podcast available to those who follow the show over at jointhefoot.com. Matthew Betts comments on all the injury reports, but very, very unlikely Jalen Hurts plays. Press conference this morning, Nick Sirianni said
Starting point is 00:53:26 it's very unlikely that he can make it into that game. So that's it, that's it. I found him, found him right there, there he is. It's cause I'm wearing a red and white striped shirt. Yeah. It's pretty easy to find you. Out of the three of us, I found you. And I'm looking very large.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And in charge. Yeah. It's bulk season, Mike. All right. Sunday live, some ensemble. Might be just Mike. It might be Mike and myself. We'll see.
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