Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 17 Waivers & Streamers + Championship Pick Ups, Commish Problems - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/23

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Dec 23, 2025. Waiver wire pickups for Week 17 championships! With many players on the injury report, which backups can be fantasy football league winners?! Get injury updates, playoff advice, and a recap of Monday Night Football. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Tuesday, December 23rd. It's almost Christmas. Some of you are moving on to your title games and some of you are Josh. Oh, man. Oh, we had a clip from this show talking about how he was already in the championship. I so wish we had a Zoom on this camera. And it was great because the guy who Josh was playing against, he clipped that out, put it in our sleeper chat. And it was great.

So now, Mike, you get to play the team that we thought Josh couldn't lose to. Correct. What's wild is Papa Josh. I'm so sorry. And that hurts. It stings. I know you have no picks and your, like, future is just in jeopardy as a person. But you lost with Puka, right?

Yeah. I lost with Puka this week to go to a title game against Mike. Like Puka over two in this office. Nope. One for two. There you go. All right. There you go.

You no longer have to say go bears all the time now. That is correct. Mike and I's Dino junior team lost to Puka. So two for four. Okay. Yeah. I mean, Mike is moving on in our two main leagues. He will try to do what I could not do three years ago.

the dream the double championship dream and unfortunately he is not moving on in three of our main leagues he did not go through in our listener league i am there so i will be there uh with you must defend our honor i will i will try footland to open up another spot for the listener league um the it's good it's going to take some heavy lifting that right is that who's in the championship game uh yes it sounds he he he beat me in the first round beat mike in the second round and faces jason in the third round. They say it can't be done. This could be the most comprehensive you know, like well-earned

spot in the listener league ever or he could lose to Jason and another spot will open up for the Foot Clan, which you know, you guys decide who to root for out there. I will root for myself. Well, you, you certainly will. And don't you have a streak in jeopardy here?

I do. Leagues where you've made title games you've somehow never lost a title game? That is a bona fide fact. I have never lost in a title game. in my life and sometimes you do that it feels bad sometimes you make sure by just not getting there yeah yeah i mean i can't our league i don't yeah i can't wait if you don't deserve but um yeah the only time i've ever been this big of like an underdog from a from a roster standpoint was actually a few years ago in the listener league playing against the biggest loser who sent me

all sorts of trash talking uh paraphernalia sent me a signed photograph of himself um how that work sent me white chocolate dipped Oreos. I think that he signed all sorts of stuff. It worked out. He signed the Oreos? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

No, that wasn't. He wrote on the Oreos. That did not work out well for him in the championship game. It did work out well for him in the fact that he is now around and a friend. He's around. Well, I'm just saying if he won that game, there would be no relationship here. None. Well, congratulations to those.

To those that moved on, it was a high-scoring affair last night with huge implications. I saw some wild stories on the Twitter sphere. I saw, I had a friend, a friend of ours, Jason, who ended up, they were losing by 0.8. And then the Brock Purdy interception flipped it to where they won and are moving on to the championship. We also had somebody. Which means that if it was Brock Purdy interception, flipped it to where they won and are moving on to the championship. If it was Brock he was facing, it means he was up by a cajillion. So he should win.

The only thing that can't happen is Brock going 305. Yeah, goes 305 scores a bazillion points. And then he loses and then he wins. That's an incredible one. Another person was losing and then the final touch by Christian McCaffrey was for minus one yard. And that won them the game. It was insane last night. If you had CMC or Kittle or Jennings or Purdy, you were dancing.

in the streets. Jonathan Taylor did get into the end zone. Nobody on this planet played Alec Pierce, but if you had he was back. Congratulations. Philip Rivers going from Dink and Dunk 44 year old to pretty darn competent quarterback.

Where was this 200 plus yards last week, Phil? He had a five year warm up. He needed to warm up a game, but 277 and 2 it was. The Seahawks are a better defense than San Francisco. There's no pass rush on So, yeah, I mean, it was a crazy week.

We had somebody bench Matthew Stafford, was mocked for it from Thursday through Monday afternoon, and then they made the right call by playing Brock Purdy who outscored Matthew Stafford. I mean, it's fantasy football at its best and worst. I mean, NFL, the 49ers versus Philip Rivers and the Colts, 48 to 27? Amazing. And the game was, it was a game. If the Colts.

Most of the game. One stop towards the end to give him Philip a chance. Very fun game. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it, um... The first half, like Philip Rivers looked like he couldn't be stopped. It was just like easy peasy, dink and dunk.

I want to be clear about a couple of things. One, it wasn't just Josh that lost. It was also the Falcon. They're co-managers, so they lost together. Honestly, I'm happier about Matt losing than Josh. Me too. The other thing I want to remind people is that, like, just said all that stuff about this game and I was not in any way trying to talk about or mock

Josh but this is just fantasy football psychology he ends up he just says keep twisting that knife he thought that was all about his loss I was just recapping the game which was in fact about your loss but um yeah fantasy football is painful this is normally when people quit for a bit I quit yeah yeah this is normally thank goodness you heard it he's out of here That means the Falcons, the only sole manager of that team. No, no. I was talking about his job. Oh, were you talking about fantasy?

We definitely want you to stick around in that. Whoever does the camera's better. All right, let's talk some news. News and notes from Around the League, presented by progressive insurance. So this is a real concern here. Let's move from the good to the bad. George Kittle left early with an ankle injury. I watched that replay a bunch of times

before the press conference from George Kittle. The replay concerned me quite a bit because it was a situation where he tried to cut after the injury. He had tried to play through it, and that ankle just gave way. It just had no strength. He looked like he was in pain. Afterwards, he came and he talked about the injury.

He said he believed he was hip drop tackled, which is like, I don't know, it feels like 98% of the ankle sprains and the NFL come from the hip drop tackle. And broken legs. That's supposedly illegal, but is never called. They said they were going to. They lied.

Yeah, but I mean, like every season, like, here's our point of emphasis. Yeah. And safety of the game, safety of the players. And they're doing nothing about it. It must be a very difficult play to call. They need to find people after the game. Like, you know, maybe they miss it live because it's difficult, but to avoid future, you know, if you find players afterwards for an illegal hip-drop tackle,

they're going to think about doing a hip-drop tackle the next time that they're tackling someone. What about like an eye for an eye, somebody gets to hip-drop-tackle them afterwards? Maybe they'd avoid it. Sure. But this, he doesn't think he has a high ankle sprain. He is not a doctor, but he doesn't think he has one. And he's had enough of them, probably. So it's the situation where you're hoping it's, they miss, he misses no games as opposed to three.

Well, and it will still be in the back. no matter what happens progression-wise this week, it's going to be in the back of your head during the week if he plays. Because it's a Sunday night game against the Bears. He's got extra time, guys. He does have extra time? No, he's got less time because of the Monday night.

Compared to the Sunday afternoon. The problem is, if it's game time decision, you're going to be in a real pickle, and we're going to obviously talk through all of that. Do we have another Monday night game? We do, right? Yes. What's the Monday night game? It is the Falcons Rams, if I'm not mistaken.

So you could, you could dance. chance, right? You could go with a Rams tight end or Tongis. Yeah, I was going to say to the, into the night. Tongus Macbasket. Tongus McBasketball is not a bad alternative option. He's been good in the absence of George Kittle. So Brock Purdy is playing very well. Yeah. Well, you certainly hope the worst case scenario is kind of playing through it and then getting hurt again. Sure. Maybe you'll get some practices and it'll be feeling good. It is George Kittle, he has been hurt a lot, and so that is a little bit of fear going into the week. He's been such a vital part of fantasy championship teams.

D.K. Metcalf, the official suspension, two games for the sideline altercation, and far more significant for him. The suspension with conduct detrimental to the team, or in this case the league, it voids 40 million in future guaranteed money. He is appealing the suspension. He made claims about there being certain things said that provoked the actions than more video came out. Little did he know people were recording.

We don't know if something happened outside of that. That's still possible that things were said. They weren't captured on camera. I thought that Chris Long on the Greenlight podcast had the best overall take about the situation where it's like, you know, two things can be true, right? Like somebody could say

something and deserve to get punched in the face for it. And you have to face the consequences for choosing to do that right but the consequences are severe it's a big one not the suspension but the fact that he voids his guaranteed money and there's always the chance that depending on the circumstances the team doesn't do that or whatever else goes on we don't know but he's going to hurt his team right now because he's going to be out for two games and um they're going to have to play without him lamar jackson it's a significant contusion on the back there was no other damage. It was a back

bruise. He's considered day to day. We're talking waivers, streaming quarterbacks. You know, people had Lamar and Jordan Love, who's down with the concussion. There are, even in this week, decisions to be made at the quarterback position that can make a difference.

I won championships with Alex Smith on a pivot going into the title because somebody got hurt and it works out, you know? Absolutely. I mean, I had been riding Marcus Mariotta to the championship. I'm in that boat where I will have to scoop someone off of waivers. You are the only person that said I have been pretty good.

No, but the expression, I've been writing Marcus Mariotta. Well, I had Jane Daniels lost him. Then I had Mario da lost him. We'll see. Yeah, you made no other accommodations for that team. I didn't need to. I had Marioato. Thank you.

Josh Allen, day to day with a foot injury, he suffered and had x-rays on during the game against the Browns. Expected to play on Sunday against the Eagles. Gardner Minchu did not tear his ACL, but he was placed on injured reserve. It was some sort of confusing fracture. A tibial something fracture. It's so great because I saw some people be like, oh, it's not serious. And then some people go, this is super serious. Yeah.

Whatever. But not an ACL. Day to day for Kamani Vidal, he was injured. He did not have a lot of opportunities. So smooth. Amari and Hampton looks primed to help in your championship week after having a nice week last week, week, week, week. Yep, week, week.

Mariotta did not practice but hasn't been ruled out. Rashi Rice still in the concussion protocol from all of the car accidents he keeps having on the field. Jordan Mason, J.J. McCarthy didn't practice. Aaron Jones Limited and Alman Ross St. Brown did not practice with the knee. This is a big one. Dan Campbell is hopeful. It's just irritation from yesterday's game, but they are a little bit concerned. Yeah, and we did recently just get a blurb that.

So, not that we didn't know, but confirming that Trayvion Henderson is, and Casham Booty, they're both in the concussion protocol. Which could mean big things for Ramandre. Romandre against the Jets is on your opponent's team. Yeah, it's, he's going to, if Henderson is gone, Romandre could win weeks. Yeah, he's going to eat and that dude knows how to eat. Sometimes we leave stuff out about our league. Sometimes you guys say you want to hear about it. I, I, I will bring up the fact that Mike in the title game, in our league of record, you will be going for a league record for titles, which would make me sad. Make us all sad. But the really wild thing about this is the player he is facing is a team that traded Mike,

Burrow and Chase, at the deadline kind of hedging against, you know, losing picks, wanted to have draft picks and Mike traded Justin Jefferson away which was the player that we thought might have a great end of this season but then McCarthy didn't look good and now it might be Brosmer so Mike will be facing Justin Jefferson he will be facing

his with Brazmer he will be facing one of the players he hates the most in Ramandre Stevenson so like if Mike were to lose the pain will be significant and you know the odds are low but the entertainment would be sky high that's it and

And we did want to talk a little bit about NFL playoff scenarios and motivations. This is the time of the year you want to be aware of it. This is why you have fantasy championship games in week 17 and not 18. If you're in an 18 league, which some of you are, we're still going to be here next week helping you begrudgingly. I will say that. Oh, yeah, because we're done like normal people. And so we want you to be normal people too.

So we will, every year it's a PSA to convince your commissioner or if you are the commissioner, or change it to week 17. You don't want an entire season worth of fun to find by teams that are benching players and not motivated to play. But going into week 17, if you look at the AFC, essentially the good news is

that basically everybody you care about cares about this week. It's wonderful. It's rare. The five AFC teams that have clinched playoff spots, which are the Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars, chargers, and bills, all still technically have a shot at the number one seat in the AFC,

which is wild with two weeks left. Obviously, it'll be easier for others, but like Buffalo still, like, you know, they still have a shot to win. They don't have a, I should rephrase that. Not everybody has a shot out of the number one seat overall, right? But they have a chance to win the division or move up in seating to correct that. But like Buffalo, if they win and New England loses,

they win the AFC East, for example. So there are big opportunities here. Even in week 18, the Broncos in Chargers could be playing for the division. So you still have the Steelers, the Texans, the Colts, and the Ravens still in contention for playoffs. They have a chance. They got to get a little bit of luck and obviously have to win, but the Colts and Ravens are not eliminated. Both the Texans and Steelers are on the road. They both clinch with a win, but, you know, the other side of things in the NFC,

you have four of the five NFC teams that have clinched. They all have shots at the number one seed. That would be Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. It seems likely that the Rams... Not Philadelphia. No, they could end up the number two or three. I'm sorry. and then the Rams are likely the fifth or sixth seed

that's pretty much situated Carolina and Tampa will be fighting for their lives like if Tampa wins out I believe they win the division well yeah because they've got another game against Carolina so I mean Carolina winning out or Tampa winning out just assumes that they beat the other team so it really comes down to that week predominantly but Tampa I mean that's that's one of the that's like probably the most

interesting playoff seeding, who gets in situation left. And then the lions still have to win their final two games, have Green Bay lose, but they're alive there. So anybody really concern you? I don't think anyone concerns me. The 49ers being able to, if they went out, they're the number one seed, which is that, Is that surprising? I feel like the 49ers have not been talked about in that

where you're like, hey, the Rams are the favorites. You know, forever, the Rams in Seattle were the odds-on favorites. I think it's surprising because while they're playing good, they're a well-coached team, they've got a lot of talent. I don't think they are seen as good as probably two other teams in their own division. Right, but they could, if they went out, they are the number one C&FC. But part of that, similar to the situation with Tampa is winning out includes a win over Seattle.

Sure. So that would, I mean, that's what would really do it is, you know, Seattle versus the 49ers. That's not super fantasy. That's week 18. But that one will be a monstrous game for fantasy playoffs or for NFL playoffs. All right. And all right, we'll move on. We've got waivers today.

We've got streaming quarterbacks today. We'll get into your questions if we have some time. That was News & Notes, sponsored by Progressive Insurance, quote today at progressive.orgive casualty insurance company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll jump right in.

Welcome to the Waver Wire. All righty, running backs, guys. It's obviously Ramandre at the tippy top of this list. He is the number one pickup of the week. It's insane that he is pickuppable. Like, it's just he's been a back that's had too much work on the season to be on waivers. And he's not on the majority of waivers, but certainly enough. Like, 57% rostered, that's what blows my mind.

I would just be so in love with a player like that to go into championship week. Yeah, I mean, New England still trying to win their division. And if they went out in Denver loses one game, I think, they get the number one seed. Like, it's all on the line. They obviously love Remandre more than we do anyways. And then when Trayvion Henderson is dealing with the concussion, it's a very significant opportunity. Come on back, Hendo. Come on, baby.

we got to figure out I feel like this year and maybe I'm just watching it closer it's it's really been the whiplash you know these guys because the Hendo wasn't pulled down very hard it just the way he fell was

you know the whiplash back of the head slams into the ground I feel like those have been the the concussions and those have been the ones where then guys miss it's not where they're getting crushed maybe they have fixed the old style of concussions with helmet technology, which has amplified the rear hit. I don't know, but I agree with you.

It's anecdotal. It's just what you've been witnessing, but it does seem like so many of them are the hit the back of your head on the field on a tackle. Emmanuel Wilson, 48% rostered Josh Jacobs, supposedly not out due to injury, but has been managing the swelling in the knee. That situation is so weird. He was 14 for 82 against Chicago, has Baltimore, a Saturday night game. Jason no longer has to sit here and stress out. So what? Who cares?

Doesn't that to stress out about it? The people care, Jason. Yeah. I mean, it seems very similar to the last several weeks where Josh Jacobs is dealing with pain in the knee. They've got to decide whether he can play through it or not. You know, TBD, he's played through it so far. Saturday night game, you've got to. it's actually nice that it's that it's Saturday

because you'll have a little bit of update. Similar to this last week when they played on Saturday. It was like, well, you've got time to pivot. Should he be ruled out as a game time decision? I mean, we have three games on Christmas to remove players from the pool. Well, and that's one of the things that I wanted to bring up is it's like Emmanuel Wilson will get worked no matter what. It doesn't matter Josh Jacobs,

how healthy he is he's going to be worked in. And then you have like lower ceiling starters like my, Michael Carter. It's the Bengals, which looks good, but the Falcons looked good too last week. Yeah, I mean, it's just my, at the end of the day, it's Michael Carter. Sure. And so it's, that's a tough. Do you take my committee on a better team that you know is going to run the football a lot? They may not have Jordan Love. That is even more of an emphasis on the running game with Malik Willis. Or do you go with the, you know, man, Emmanuel Wilson had three more carries than Michael Carter did. Michael Carter started. And it was a good matchup. So they, Michael Carter was fine. I mean, he got, he was. It was. He's 11 for 65, ran for 5.9 a carry, and against the Bengals defense. I think I would lean the Michael Carter direction. I think so, too. The Chris Rodriguez start looks good as well. It's an opportunity for him against Dallas on Christmas.

I think he's pretty interesting. He was in week 16, 15 for 63 in a touchdown. So do you feel good about Carter or Rodriguez more? Crosky did have a touchdown against Philadelphia on the ground. He only played on 20% of the snaps, so it was, I think, just kind of a fortunate timing situation for him. The Mariotta does make a difference if he ends up being the quarterback over Josh Johnson.

I think I lean the Carter side. What are some other names at the running back position that you would? I think Blake Corum is. He's still available in about 40% of leagues, and he is a guy that you can start right off the bat. I mean, you look at the last month, and he's scored 14 points, 25 points, 13 points, and 13 points. It's like, this is a player that you can put in there. And then you do have, I know it would be lucky, crazy happening mid-game, but you also have the opportunity when you're starting any player like that. Should something happen mid-game, you know, to Kyran, all of us.

sudden. It's a monstrous, you know, the opportunity here against Atlanta, you are over touchdown favorites at home. He's scored a touchdown or more in the last four games straight. I think Blake Corum is someone that's, it's taken me a while to be like, yeah, you, you know, you can start him while Kyron is still great in his own right. And then the, the kind of mystery situation, the mystery box of the weekend is the Cleveland Browns. You have the really unfortunate injury to Quinn Sean Judkins who will be the

quarterback or the running back sorry for the Browns against Pittsburgh Dylan Samson has been out the past two weeks two weeks ago it was a calf and hand injury this week it was labeled as a hand injury we need more information on that obviously but Rahim Sanders

would be a nasty boy who is up next he was 11 for 42 against Buffalo there's also Trayvian Williams in that game too. Is that right? Yes. That is correct. Both of them got some run. Wide receiver-wise, are you chasing the Parker Washington performance? Six for 145-and-1, 10 targets. He's done this many times this year where the game plan just

becomes a Parker Washington game plan, but since the by week, wide receiver 20, 16, 12, and three, and then three kind of disappearing acts, but always getting some targets. Yeah, he's interesting. And the matchup against Indianapolis is. is very good. We saw that this week with Brock Purdy. It's tough because this last week, yeah, this was a Parker Washington week, but that came at the expense. Brian Thomas Jr.

You know, did nothing. The new money man over there did nothing. So Parker could be the guy that's last man out. Honestly, I think probably a better pickup. It's hard to say a better pickup.

For Parker Washington, just a reminder of he's you know two he's been active in the two previous games the week before that though against the Colts he was out with the hip injury so while his snaps after the by week you know he was running in the mid 80s gets hurt in week 13 misses the next week and then it's kind of been a ramp up so it also was missing BTJ for some of those early games so it's a I don't know for sure if you should expect 56% of the snaps or more for Parker Washington, but he is at least interesting of, I mean, Brock Purdy against this Colts team just threw 305, you know, and Trevor Lawrence is playing incredible football. He's, he is a

a, a worthy dart throw. Like, I wouldn't feel super confident putting him on my lineup, but I would also, at the same time, if I saw someone at Parker Washington in their lineup, I'd be bit nervous about it. Yeah, he, he is my number one pickup this week, Parker Washington, a wide receiver, but I would throw two other guys out there that are close in Mac Collins and Adonine Mitchell. Mac Hollins is kind of, you need the, booty has to stay concussed, essentially, for Mack Hollins to be worthy to throw into a championship roster. And then Adonai Mitchell, he's been pretty good.

The quarterback play there is obviously the massive, relying on a Jets quarterback at this point in the season. It doesn't feel good, but you know they're going to have to keep throwing the ball against New England. and he's their number one wide receiver. Yeah, and then other names that you care about this week if you were in a pinch. I mean, Josh Downs performed admirably, nine targets, five for 65. They were running on far more 11 personnel this past week, so he was getting on the field.

Is Alec Pierce not on here because of roster percentage? Yes. I was, I wondered if some people. I'll go double check there. I wonder if people had dropped him because of the Philip Rivers acquisition. It's very possible. Because I think I would take Pierce over down just for those bigger plays. Pierce is 60% on rostered on sleepers.

That's right around that range. But he might be there. You can double check. Yeah. It's going to be a wild week if you need to fill in a spot due to injury. Jaden Higgins didn't really get much done. I don't think I'd be taking my shot on him or Adonai Mitchell. because of Brady Cook

who they confirmed is the starter for a new one for the final week so that's going to be a heyday for the New England defense. The New England defense. If the PSDST is out there. Yeah. Yeah. So what the Saints just did.

It saw what Britain Strange just did. Sure. Five for 39 and a touchdown. He ran more routes than Parker Washington did. So that's a big play at the tight-in position. I think my number one tight-in pickup, as gross as it sounds, is Taysam Hill. Is it?

I mean, Taysam Hill, you know, assuming that Camara is still out. He is always out. Devin Neal is on IR. Taysam Hill can throw a touchdown. He can rush a touchdown. I mean, I know, you know, we got, he was. He can catch a touchdown. Sure, he can.

He can throw it to himself. You know, the opportunities this last year. Is that legal? Yeah. Like without it touching anybody? Could you just throw it? it way up in the air and then go down and catch it? Would it count as a pass attempt and a reception? Or just like, because if you bobble the ball, you know, what are the rules about that? If you throw

it and you catch it with... Because I mean, I used to do that in the backyard all the time. You throw it up really high and then you go catch it. I feel, I'm going to be honest, I feel like NFL defenders, they would get there. I don't think you could throw it. Kyle says a quarterback cannot throw a forward pass to themselves without a tip. Okay. Well, that's boring. Yeah, that is. I mean, So that's probably not going to happen. Take that rule out. Let them try. But last week, I mean, you had 12 rushing attempts for 12 rushing attempts is like, that's a decent number for a running back. Goal line attempts, it's probably going to be, you know, we thought it was going to be estimated because Tayson Hill had been deleted from this offense. But with the injuries at running back, they brought Tayson Hill back in.

This is a matchup against Tennessee. I mean, he had four catches and 12 rush attempts. So at the tight end position It feels like cheating It's man It makes so much sense But that would be Terrifying I mean they've had running back injuries

If I didn't all year If I didn't have strange I think I'm with Jason on On that chance in a championship week Because it was effective They won the game handedly They're playing Tennessee You've got

I don't know I think I'd do that over like the dependency I would have on Waller with Quinn Ewers, right? Or Tongis getting worked into the game flow? Tongis would be a good pickup to me only for the George Kittle

manager. What he represents without George Kittle is not worth like taking the shot, not know. Like if I'm needing a tight end in general, I'm not going after Tongis hoping that Kittle is out. I think

that's kind of, I mean, A.J. Barner was 4-49 in a touchdown. He's always a touchdown opportunity. But I think that's kind of it for tight-ins, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. It really is. We set it. Defensively, the Patriots. There's so many good defenses. Brady Cook got sacked eight times. Yes, he did.

The Lions get to play against Mac Brosmer. That's really fun. The Saints defense has been very good. They're going on the road against Tennessee. the Cam Ward has looked better and better but he still takes a lot of sacks from all except the San Francisco

49ers because you played them correct it just hasn't been an amazing start to play teams against Tennessee lately that's the third time that's the third time that they look like a perfect start for people to play

and they scored enough points Cleveland Cleveland was not a good start against them So, yeah, New England, Detroit, the Saints, the Broncos obviously are heavily rostered, Jacksonville against Indy. It's felt a little bit better about that before this performance by Philip Rivers. So then, did you like- Because it's in Indianapolis. So it's like that's, that's lower on the list now. Yeah, the Jags are just, the Jags are a Super Bowl defense to me. And then how do you feel about Tampa against Quinn?

Oh, yeah. Like the Tampa Bay defenses, kind of whatever, but they love playing against. Seventh round rookies? Yes, exactly. There's a difference between, okay, Cam Ward has started all year. He's a rookie, but he was the number one pick in the draft. We're at the end of his rookie season where he's playing the best that he's played so far, versus the seventh round, six-round type of rookies, the perennial veteran backups that are thrust into positions with injuries or benching ahead of them.

Those are the guys this time of year. I really want defense is playing against these hot trash quarterback. That's the recipe for success. I can tell you right now, I think my almost subs is going to be Indianapolis winning that game at home against Jacksonville. Wow. Divisional games are always,

especially between those two teams. If you remember long ago, Indy was the perennial every year winner of that division. Jacksonville would be at the basement and those games would be two-point games. I think out of home might be pretty interesting for Phillip Rivers. Last night's game, they were in it,

and they really would have been minute more of their special teams with that fumble didn't set them behind the eight ball to start the game i mean it was i could just i don't know after beating denver things are a little letdown things are really going good for jacksville that that's my initial thought there but um you can see all of the waiver wire rankings other names as well in all of these positions if you go to the website the fantasy footballers dot com we want to get you ready for title time and uh we'll talk some quarterbacks as well because the need it might be out there. It's real.

Full stream ahead. Well, I'll kick us off because Andy was just talking about this as his almost upset because maybe Philip Rivers can move the ball and score enough on the Jacksonville Jaguars defense. But Trevor Lawrence, who is somehow blew my mind. Available. Yeah, he

was 51% roster. Well, I was like, well, what? He's the quarterback for on the season. Since the buy, he's the quarterback, too. He's been on fire. But I understand it in the sense that he was on the road against the Broncos. People were like, well, if I'm not going to play him, maybe cut him. Look for your waiver wire in Indianapolis.

I don't know if you watched the game last night, but Brock Purdy was okay. Papa Josh, would you say Brock Purdy was pretty good against the Colts last night? Yeah, he did. He did okay. Yeah. did to you um so i would take trevor lawrence in that same matchup i think it goes jason's mike's and mine in the streaming quarter oh really you'd go so i'm i'm bringing up shuck baby what's the song andy gonna get shook tonight look i think he's good this is who i believe i'm playing against

i think he might be good and he's playing tennessee's the qb eight over the last month with a floor of 18 points So even when he wasn't in the top 12, he's still giving you 18. Should you be one of these teams, you're like, I have no quarterback to play. And Tennessee, over the last five weeks, 27th and scheduled adjusted points to the quarterback position. Like, even though Cam Ward is playing better, that might be even better for Tyler Shuck. Let's get a competitive game going. You can go back to the well with Jacoby Brissette this week. Yes, the highest.

Yes, you can. Over under of the week. Yes, you can. I have noticed the Cardinals are finally starting to not play hard. for this loser of a head coach. Oh, what a... Number two. You saw it on some of the routes, even by Michael Wilson,

who gave up on one of the routes that an interception happened. You have Marvin Harrison disinterested in everything. Cardinals also just lost, like, tremendous defenders to long-term injuries, including starting cornerback, Garrett Williams, to torn Achilles, Walter Nolan, IR. Achilles? Knee injury.

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, that got updated? That's, that's, it should be knee injury. And I thought I saw Achilles. That's, I definitely saw that. Poof. Um, I hope.

Well, you, I'm looking at all. I've, I've seen both, but I, I'll, I'll look at up for sure. They're different parts of the body. They are very different. Well, that says knee injury according to what I'm looking at right now. Okay. Carted off with knee injury. On contact knee injury.

Yeah. Which is better. I, long term it is, long term it is. So highest over under the week, Jacoby can get it going again. You know the past attempts will be crazy. this game in and of itself is going to be wild. Arizona's averaging 38 pass attempts per game. Cincinnati 37,

53 and a half point over under. Did you fist pump, Mike? No, that was me. I thought that was you fist pump. No, no, that was me clearing my throat. Burrow. Burrow and Chase. I mean, I will.

I will fist pump playing all of the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, guess who I have to play against in the championship and listener league, Mike. Who's that? Chase Brown. Oh, you remember that?

who just murdered my soul in League of Record. He will do it again. I, yeah, he definitely will. I'm just going to say this. I hate Chase Brown. Nothing personal. Hmm. Talking about my guy.

Yeah. Winning leagues. Yeah, that's funny. You've got, Mike's got triple Cincinnati dependency, and it should work out really, really well against Arizona. Where's that game at? It's in Arizona. No, I thought it was in Arizona.

That would be even better. I mean, of the options, environment? Oh, no, it's in Cincinnati. I apologize. Jason was right. All right. Um, I, I always apologize when Jason's right. What's the weather? I knew it. I knew it was coming in your mind. Weather's going to be a story too, potentially.

Slight chance of rain. 11 mile an hour winds. 50 degrees. Oh, yeah, no, we'll take that. Yeah, because the weather guy's always right on Tuesday. That's what they're known for. A week ahead. They can be. Oh. my goodness. We'll take a break. We'll do some mailbag. Let's do it. Mailbag. All right. If you got a question, we got answers. You can find us over on Twitter at the

FF Ballers. You can click the submit a question button on the website, the fantasy Footballers.com, you can leave us a voicemail. 302-464-T-FFB. First question from Jake in Texas. This is great. Did you read it? No, I haven't read it. I made it to the

championship in one of my leagues, and since everyone knows I'm extremely superstitious, most of the league has changed their team names to your fantasy king and updated their logos to different pictures of me. Any ideas on how to break the league-wide jeans? You've got to join them.

Yeah, I think that's the answer. You change your name to your fantasy king and you put your favorite picture yourself up there and you accept it you you accept this you're a superstitious man turn it from a jinx into you know a blessing i i remember a long a long time ago mike and i had faced each other in three consecutive championships though those were the dark days the dark ages for jason for everyone else um and i remember i every week i would change my team's logo to like a really nice picture of mike's best player yeah And you would like do an animated gif and it'd be all shiny. Yeah, I did that like for every team I faced and it worked until I faced Mike.

And then it didn't work anymore. But, um, yeah, you got to lean it. I like that idea. Ray in Boston writing in, my commissioner made a change to our playoff structure at 7 p.m. on Sunday the 21st of December to reseeding causing me to lose this week's matchup. Should this be allowed? Is this an all-time commissioner foul or am I overreacting? Depends on the week.

the show, hate this league now. Depends on the league. If this league is established as a dictatorship and this was, because this was before the matchups. I don't agree with that at all. I'm just saying sometimes leagues are like hey, I am saying this is what our rule is for the playoffs.

We're going to recede. If that's how the league has always run, then whatever, don't be in that league if you don't want to play in one of those. Outside of that one very specific and very rare world, this is an all-time, No, no, you cannot, you cannot do anything in season without a league-wide vote, and everyone basically agreeing, yeah, we should recede.

I, if the commissioner just said, I am the king, I'm doing this, but you did it before the playoffs started, I can live with that decision over here. It's like, okay, everyone knows. No one has played a playoff game yet, but we're going to recede to do it. It was two days ago in the middle of the playoffs. To do it in the middle of the playoffs is incredibly suspicious and it seems like a commissioner saw an opportunity to get a better matchup. Did you say 7 p.m. Sunday? Wait, you can't do that. Wait.

That's after games have played. I mean, wait, what? I mean, it would be one. Oh, my gosh. No, this is. It would be. Hold on. It would be even one degree less bad if it happened on Tuesday last week before the

semi-final matchups. It's whatever. They're already competing. That's why, see, what he said, causing me to lose this week's matchup. So you were in a matchup. You got to undo it. I got a drop for you, Commissioner.

Number two. Ray in Boston. Thowl. I leave that league. Disgusting. I am so sorry that you invested the entire year. You were excited for this league. You have received, you got to go glass half full here.

This person has revealed themselves. Yeah. You, this is, this is a turd. Yeah. This is a turd of a human. Don't drink that glass. Can you imagine? And just get out of there.

Let's just play this out. That's insane. You're in the middle of, remember 7 p.m. Sunday. So this is after Sunday night games or during them. This is after the. Imagine your matchup this week. The Packers game. The Packers Bears.

I mean, I would have loved this to happen in our listener league because I would have been in the championship game. Just, just, that's what I'm going to do as a commissioner. If it's not working out, I'm going to flip the matchups every week. You could have done. honestly in the League of Record I would have won regardless. Well, you scored 209 points. You set the all-time record, right?

Is that correct? Of, of, uh, since we've moved to the Sleeper platform. That is insane. Did you look that up? Uh, no. Actually, yeah, there was, it was being discussed. Matt, Matt pulled up our league history. And you benched Jalen Warren.

And Mike took my crowned. Binched Jalen Warren. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I could have 20 points. You had 35 on your bench. I just help you save some. He did. His team is so good. I hope I did too. George. Ice up.

Oh, Kittle. Yeah. I don't know. Every time you say George is Pickens to me. Oh. Also him. Pro Bowler, by the way. I don't know if you guys saw that. George Pickens. George Pickens. Yeah, yeah. Pro Bowler's. Very well-deserved pro-boller. Came out this morning. Drake May, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert at quarterback in the AFC. That's a good group. Sam Darnold, one of the three Pro Bowl are NFC quarterbacks. George Pickens. Matthew Stafford, Sam Darnold. George Pickens' character problems for Pittsburgh.

Oh, I know. I know. That was the first thing I thought was like. Turns into a Pro Bowl wide receiver. Pickens could hit someone in the craft. And their guy that they picked just might have had his money voided. That is horrific irony. I've noticed watching Pittsburgh games, and one of the reasons I think we've had a hard time,

and everyone listening, they always think we're against Pittsburgh because they beat us in the Super Bowl, which is right. but man the combined grimaces of the Tomlin plus Rogers perma grimace perma angry I mean these guys hate football that's what it's the way it feels Tomlin loves football oh you still defend Tomlin forever he's a great it's kind of hard not to they're gonna I mean some things went very favorably show me a smile between those two guys every week goodness gracious well I mean Bill Belichick didn't really ever smile no and he's a loser well we did I guess he has revealed himself as well.

Yeah. No, I mean, Andrew in New York City, Joe Burrow or Jacoby Brissette for the title. Same game. I think you play Burrow there, guys. Yep. I'd go Burrow. Yeah. Definitely.

You just told Brissette also is a good game because you want that game to be very, very fun. I would like a fourth quarter, please. No, you don't. You don't want a fourth quarter. If they say him, you know what? You don't want a fourth quarter. I'll take the 40 points without a fourth quarter. You are right.

Exactly. Logan and Greenville, South Carolina, and a double-flex championship game, I have Kyron and Corum, given the favorable matchup against Atlanta, would you start both? I'd be fine with it. I would be totally fine with it. I don't know what your other options were, but... That's what makes the question impossible. But if you had to do this because you're just like, no, it's just do-do that I could start, then maybe. Maybe just claiming all the running back points. And nice that will be every time they're on the goal line.

Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, right now it's stressful. If Devante Adams is out, yeah. With Devante Adams there, you're like, oh, man, don't do it. Yeah, and he's not going to play. No, he's not. Yeah. We have a big show tomorrow.

Just so you guys know what the schedule is like the next couple of weeks with the holidays. Christmas is Thursday. We do have a show tomorrow on Christmas Eve. It will include all the content from Wednesday and Thursday. It'll be a little mini-Mess-Lodon. Christmas Lodon. It'll have backup options starts of the week. matchups for the Christmas Day games

and the Saturday games. We'll take Thursday off for Christmas and we will have a Friday show as championship week. So we do not want to let you down. We will have all the Sunday games on Friday. We'll have the fantasy faceoff and a glorious wheel of shame. Because it's not

you. Because it's not me this week. Which feels so great. And then next week for New Year's for Week 18, we'll be here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We'll get through all the normal content. That one's a real mega. That's a true mega on Wednesday. Thank you, Mike. New year, the last mega of 2020. 25. And so that'll be, and then we'll have Friday, Thursday, Friday won't

have new shows. So it'll be a megaladone next Wednesday. So we'll be here for you, week 18, nurse. Yeah, that's right. That's right. No, no, I got there. At first I heard nerds. Yeah. And then I was like, Oh, he didn't say that. And then I said, oh, we called him weaners. Yeah, it did sound more like that. Which, yeah, week 18. Take that week 18ers. All right, that is going to do it for today's episode.

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