Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 18 Matchups + Jason's Hairy Shimmy Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/3

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

Week 18 game breakdowns on today’s fantasy football podcast! Matchup previews continued with team and player motivations! Plus, injury updates, Jason spins the Wheel of Shame. Manage your redraft, k...eeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for January 3rd, 2025. (00:00) - Intro (02:40) - FootClan Friday (03:55) - NFL News (06:40) - Fantasy Forecast (07:10) - Giants at Eagles (11:00) - Saints at Buccaneers  (14:15) - Chiefs at Broncos (16:55) - Chargers at Raiders (20:35) - Seahawks at Rams (25:05) - Dolphins at Jets (32:30) - 49ers at Cardinals (35:10) - Vikings at Lions (47:05) - Fantasy Faceoff/Wheel of Shame Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://www.USAA.com/Insurance  Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in! This is the end. Stay strong! My only friend. The end. Friday January 3rd, the Fantasyers Mike Wright Jason Moore Andy Holloway Back with you our final
Starting point is 00:00:52 Episode of the regular season and Week 18 Here we are good luck. Yes and soon Goodbye. Yeah 18 nasty saw somebody on Twitter Asking about you know two-week championship games Because maybe that's a solution of making week 18 not as detrimental
Starting point is 00:01:24 So you have Josh Allen. Yeah, I was gonna say, there are just too many significant players sitting. That's the fundamental problem. It would be equivalent to say, championship game is gonna be a week where there's eight buys. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:38 10 buy weeks. It just makes, the reason we don't like it, it's not like we don't like more fantasy football. Yeah, we love fantasy football. And obviously 10% of you are in those games. And look, if you have to choose between a week 18 only championship game. And not playing?
Starting point is 00:01:54 No, I was gonna say, or a 17-18 combo. The 17-18 combo is better because you're removing half of the value. It makes a half as bad, yeah. But it would be a lot nicer if you weren't playing this week, just because it's. Half is bad, yeah. But it would be a lot nicer if you weren't playing this week, just because it's. We're good, man.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, no. No, we're here. We're here. Let them eat their cake. Yeah, well, you got 10% of people. We've got to get titles today. So we've got more matchups to talk through. We've got some news to talk through.
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Starting point is 00:03:52 Um, all right, let's talk news. News and notes from around the league, presented by USAA Insurance. If you're gonna do a week 18 title game, you should have a redraft of the teams between the two champions. Oh, that would be- And they only get to pick lions or Vikings.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Well, they only would choose that of their own volition, but that's actually a good idea. Whoever gets to the championship, if you're in week 18, those two rosters- Just take your team and throw it in the garbage. No, you take those two teams, all the roster, and you have to draft those two rosters. Just take your team and throw it in the garbage. No, you take those two teams, all the roster, and you have to draft those two players. Draft, oh, I get golf.
Starting point is 00:04:32 No one's taking Barkley. No, no they're not, because he's not gonna play. Saquon will be forgotten in history now. No one will ever remember his name. What a loser. Justice Hill is out with a concussion. The Browns? They've decided to go with Zap Zap Zap. Zap Zap Zap. Bailey Zappy not Dorian Thompson Robinson because they wanted to see how bad the line would
Starting point is 00:04:56 get. It got to 20. It's at Baltimore minus 20. Yeah, I think I saw the Browns projected for 10 points at one point in time, which is insane. Generous. Generous. Chase Brown, T Higgins, questionable for the Bengals start this week. Yeah, Chase Brown didn't practice all week, and they elevated Kendall Milton?
Starting point is 00:05:21 Not Minton, Milton. So that's usually a sign that they're getting ready to be without their starting running back. Roma Dunes, a DMP with an illness. Players rarely miss with illness, so he should be out there. Christian Watson, DMP on Thursday with a knee. He probably will miss.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Josh Jacobs, limited. Tony Pollard, limited because Tony Pollard hasn't practiced in six months. No, but he is still close enough to a couple of really important incentives. I know he's gonna push to play. That's the perfect incentive situation. That game.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Couple teams need to lose, nothing going on, just get guys their monies. We'll say the Josh Jacobs was asked about playing and he said, yeah, I'm probably seeing less work this week Interesting. Oh, I didn't hear that Tajay Spears was a DMP dealing with the concussion. So snip snap with that running back room Anthony Richardson a DMP again on Thursday. Yeah, he's not gonna play
Starting point is 00:06:18 I mean he it would take a lot and all the first team reps are going to flacco So I think the expectation there, obviously with their implosion last week, they're out of the playoff running, there's no reason to bring a hurt Anthony Richardson into this game. That was today's News and Notes presented by USA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. We'll talk about some more news in specific matchups on today's show but let's jump right in. on today's show but let's jump right in. Yesterday we talked about the Browns, Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, the two Saturday games and then we got into the Panthers, Falcons, Commanders, Cowboys, Bears, Packers, Texans,
Starting point is 00:07:01 Titans, Jags, Colts, Bills Bills Patriots games the Sunday games will resume our fantasy forecast with the New York football Giants the 3 and 13 Giants taking on the 13 and 3 Philadelphia Eagles the Eagles are still three point favorites despite the fact that they will be arresting some players this week and probably starting a third string quarterback. The over-under is just 37 and a half. This is not an easy game to- Tanner McKee was slinging. Tanner McKee?
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. Yeah, he had two touchdowns, right? On his fourth throw. This is true. I know we know the math, but to actually see it in someone's game log, his touchdown percent was 50 So I I'm seeing this picture of Tanner McKee and my first thought was He is kind of challenging Davis Mills for the the neck the neck
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, okay, and then I see the note from Kyle and he says Challenging Davis Mills and Mike Glenn and for longest neck All right, which is one of the features of a backup quarterback. We need to slap one of those on Kyler. Yeah, let him see over that line. Oh my gosh. Kyler, if he was that, yeah, that would be- I know that the, you know, you can extend your shins.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah, can you extend your neck? That's what I'm, like, the shins is like, it's long, it's painful. I'd extend it all. I don't think so, man. I think you guys- Shins and neck? As fast as he runs, that thing would just be left behind. What about a?
Starting point is 00:08:29 You know, he'd just be like, ah! What about a super long arm? One? Like a space jam arm. I don't think that helps him to see over the line. He won't see, but he won't get the passes batted down. Fair. None of this really seems possible.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Tyrone Tracy, Malik Neighbors. I would deadhead it, dude. Neighbors reception line's at 6 and 1 half, Mike. Yeah, I like it. You're in on that. Tyrone Tracy rushing yard line at 50 and 1 half. Those two guys deserve the opportunity to just put it on display in this game.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yes. And they'll be facing some backups or rotational players in Philly. This is why week 18 is tough, though. I mean, Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown, Devante Smith. Why would those guys be out there? players in Philly. This is why week 18 is tough though. Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, why would those guys be out there? They're dealing with problems anyways. You got to get Barkley, Brown, Smith, and Hurts healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:15 So the question becomes, I think, you know- It's Jahan Dotson time is what I'm saying. Oh baby. The question is, this is a bad Giants rush defense, right? Both over the last six weeks the whole season They're their second worst they give up the most fantasy points so I know it's not a Star studded cast but can a Kenneth Gainwell or will Shipley like good people are going to have to play some of the backups
Starting point is 00:09:39 On these teams. I know Andy you brought up. Yeah, far Blake Quorum, Ray Davis as two rookies who are going to inherit a workload this week, presumably. Does Kenny Gainwell? To me, it's more the Shipley shot. You think so? You think the rest Gainwell? I think Gainwell is, he'll be used, but also part of that starting rotation that they do utilize him. I don't know. I'd give Shipley a shot. That's the problem. I'd love to play one of them. But you don't recruit.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I have no idea. I mean, like, Gainwell is the vet. He's the true backup. Will Shipley is... He's barely played at all. Yeah, he has not done much. This is true. This is true. That's why it's more difficult. I think it would be Kenneth Gainwell. I can't. You can't rest. I mean, you were talking about this off air, Andy, about some of the great coaches that were saying when you rest, it's not like you can't play the game. And you have to have starters play. Yeah, Dan Campbell, Jim Harbaugh, or John Harbaugh, and Bill Belichick just talked about
Starting point is 00:10:43 the fact you can only, you know, you got to dress a certain amount of players which means you have to choose who you actually make an active and the other guys you know you need to give them a fair shake at being out there with players that can help them around them so yeah Gainwell would probably be the better bet. New Orleans 5-11 taking on the 9-7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers it's the the Buccaneers have the second highest total of the week, implied point total at almost 29, their 14 point favorites, which look, if it wasn't for that one Baltimore game, this would be the storyline and how big of
Starting point is 00:11:15 favorites the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are. And, you know, New Orleans is it's over. Like, uh, you know, we talked about You know Alvin Kamara Kendrick Miller both didn't practice Spencer rattler a Defense is so excited when he sees that on the other side Chris O'Lave looks like was a full participant But he's still in protocol. So I don't I mean I can't imagine they bring him It would be it would be malpractice. It would. It would feel like that should be illegal.
Starting point is 00:11:49 At the running back position though. Right to jail. I mean you got Jamal Williams is there but so is Nine Opportunities last week. Clyde Edwards Allaire. Might as well see what you have in Clyde. He's 5 for 20 on the ground. He caught two passes for 10 yards. Yep. Not against the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:12:09 The Bucs' rush defense at the beginning of the year looked a little bad. They missed Vita Viv for a couple games, but they've been fantastic. Yeah, the matchups stinks. The matchup is terrible for a running back of that caliber. Here's how I think this game will play out on the other side. I think one, the defense will be outstanding. I think they're the best defense of the week and
Starting point is 00:12:27 they'll be dominant. Baker, your start of the week Jason, and Mike Evans, they will get it done. Evans will get to a thousand yards. His DK receiving line is 99 and a half. He needs 85 to get there and five receptions. That will happen. Baker, Evans. He needs five receptions, 85 yards, for $3 million. Right, right. He's going to get it. Well, I'm guessing the 85 is what he needs to get to the thousand. That is to get to the thousand, yes. And so that will happen.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It is a must-win game for them. Baker talked about the record. He came out in a press conference that was saying, this is really important to us. But he said, winning is most important, but they go hand in hand. If Mike Evans has a press conference, it was saying this is really important to us. But he said winning is most important, but they go hand in hand. If Mike Evans has a great game, we're gonna win. So this is get Mike Evans the ball. Yeah, and this is also a situation where you are,
Starting point is 00:13:15 I mean, you are just heavy favorites. I think the second, or maybe the last third of the game, these guys are not gonna be on the field. They'll probably do enough damage in those first two, three quarters that you're gonna start seeing Sean Tucker salting the game away. We're not gonna have Cade Otten.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I think Jalen McMillan. Jalen McMillan is putting his best Jehan Dots in rookie season together. Yeah. The kind of disproportionate touchdown success So, you know, I want to see Mike Evans get like a 70 yard touchdown Right away and then then they just do real cheapy
Starting point is 00:13:59 It's like it is fully intentional. We're just padding his receptions right now. It is nice they have to win. You know what I mean? It's nice that they gotta get out ahead of it. But this is a, it should be a Tampa Bay whooping in a playoff spot. Yeah. Kansas City's five and one. They take on the nine and seven Broncos.
Starting point is 00:14:17 The Draft King Sportsbook line now, Denver minus 10 and a half. The over-under is 40. Carson Wentz. He's gonna start. 14.8 implied points for the Chiefs, so there's not a lot of value to like there. I know, Andy, you like Noah Gray because if they're resting their starters, obviously the elder statesman centerpiece of Travis Kelsey is not going to get run, so Noah Gray has been
Starting point is 00:14:42 good in relief, but it is still Carson Wentz. And that's if it's Carson Wentz for the whole game. Which I think it will be. I think with Carson Wentz, he did this last year, needed to play for a contract. I think it'll be Wentz. I also think that this is a scary one for Denver, but they should be able to put it together. They should be able to beat them, but it's divisional. It's Carson Wentz who, you know, like I said, he'll be motivated You have enough hodgepodge of wide receivers. They're all not sitting right? I mean, I wondered that I was Juju should be out there. I would think Hollywood they'd want more snaps for Hollywood in the regular season
Starting point is 00:15:20 Xavier were these a rookie so it's like you you're not really resting Xavier Worthy is a rookie, so it's like, you're not really resting rookies. So I think he'd be out there. No, maybe limited snaps for Worthy and Hopkins, but yeah, it's kind of a weird game. On the other side, Bo Nicks at home, heavily favored. You can play him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:37 What do you do at running back for Denver? Same thing you've done at running back for Denver for weeks is avoid it. Yeah. There's no, I mean, it's still a good defense. They shouldn't have Chris Jones this week, which is bad for their rushing defense, but I don't expect the Broncos to go out there and put up 35 points against a divisional opponent, even though they're resting some of their starters. Courtland Sutton, he has a receiving line of 72 and a half.
Starting point is 00:16:07 He needs 82 more receiving yards to get another half a mil. And Marvin Mims, do we have to talk about Marvin Mims? You know, I don't think that he is, I mean, I guess in a week like this where you might need to start someone, he has been on the field a little bit more, involved more, and you know, like he had an end zone target that wasn't just a big breakaway touchdown
Starting point is 00:16:29 that used his speed, it was actually just an NFL play, which was very uplifting for Marvin Mim's believers. I think he's more of a DFS dart throw than someone who'd be putting in. He's running really hot, He's hitting the big plays. The eight targets last week was, that's good to see. 34 catches on the season, and eight of them were last week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 The Chargers are 10 and 6, and they take on the 4 and 12 Las Vegas Raiders. Chargers, 4 and 1 half point road favorites. The over-under is 41 and 1 half. The Chargers can improve to the five seed if they win in the Steelers lose against Cincinnati that seems very. It's possible very possible and important because presumably right now the five seed would be playing against the Houston Texans
Starting point is 00:17:17 the six seed would be playing against the Baltimore Ravens and that is massive yeah I mean that's that's one of those like you feel like you're. You know getting half a buy. I think everybody wants to go to Houston. If you have to choose a division winner to play, Houston is by far the, what is the, what was the picture we kept using with you? With the two dragons?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Oh yeah, I don't remember the name of the. Kingdora? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, they are the goofy face of the division winners. The Chargers, in that case, it's a little surprising they're only four and a half point favorites. Yeah, they're on the road. Raiders are still...
Starting point is 00:17:55 Oh, the pictures up. Is the Steelers game before the Chargers game? Because maybe that's part of the line. I believe so. If it's before, Kyle, can you confirm that, the timing of those games? I thought the Steelers, yeah, Steelers are Saturday. Okay, so that makes so much more sense because there's a chance Steelers just win
Starting point is 00:18:11 and this game is non-consequential for the Chargers. So there's a hedge there in the line. So the Chargers, Herbert, Dobbins is Jason's start of the week, Lad McConkey, yeah, still limited. Been dealing with injury all year. He's gonna play. Will Dizzle, Mike, you like him this week. I do, I do.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It's a good matchup. The Raiders across the season are dead last against tight ends. There is question marks on the other side. Amir Abdullah had a big game last week, but is not practicing. Yeah, so we were worried at the very end of that game, he got injured, we didn't hear anything about it
Starting point is 00:18:49 right after the game, I didn't see anything on Twitter, but the fact that he has not practiced at all on Wednesday or Thursday says, I don't think you can go right back to the well with him, and then do you really wanna roll out Alexander Madison? I don't know. I mean, it's wild. Amir Abdullah has hodgepodged his way to four top 10, sorry,
Starting point is 00:19:10 four top 15 finishes in the last six weeks. Amir Abdullah, the Abdullah Express is currently sitting, this is, let me see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, this is his 10th season, and it's his best fantasy. Oh gosh. Oh gosh That's the best fantasy finish of his career in season 10. He got he got stuck with that Detroit Lions Stank there was the the run of the career
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah, the run of the running backs where it was so much hope for them and what he isn't nothingness He isn't a prototypical three down back either. So he definitely settled into kind of a focused role. Brock Bowers. He's interesting. Reception line seven and a half, nine receptions from breaking the record. If I was the Raiders, this would be my one sole focus of the game, would be getting Brock Bowers, pro bowler, Brock Bowers, the
Starting point is 00:20:05 opportunity to break this record. Which would be incredible. And just so that we're clear, that is not the rookie record, which he has already broken. This is the all-time record at tight end. Correct. As a rookie. What an accomplishment that would be. He's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah, he is. He is. He is just magnificent. All right, we'll take a break, talk some more matchups. Seattle 9-7 Rams 10-6 Draft King Sportsbook line Seattle minus 6.5 over under 39. Why is Seattle favored like that? Well, the Rams are trying to lose. The Rams don't need to play their starters. Rams don't care, and I know that Seattle has, like,
Starting point is 00:20:51 essentially nothing on the line, but getting to 10 wins for a club, I think, is... And a rookie head coach. I think it's pretty important. Not only that, but 10 wins is part of big massive payouts for Geno Smith. He's, I believe, I believe he's 183 passing yards away and if he gets to 10 wins it's a massive payout. So there are, I mean, there is incentive for the Seahawks here and the Rams are are gonna be resting. Gino needs
Starting point is 00:21:20 185 but he's got a, and he needs to hold his completion percentage so so JSN is this good money is this good money for Gino so he can you know go retire someplace I mean are they are they gonna move on from Gino Smith because this was a bad bad season for Gino Smith when you go 17 touchdowns 15 interceptions third straight year dropping your touchdown numbers, throwing more picks. I mean it's hard to criticize. It's a strange season, yeah. If they win, they're 10 wins. That's a solid season. And their defense has been like... Pooh-pooh. It's a weird defense. Started the season okay. Yeah, sometimes they're fantastic, sometimes they're
Starting point is 00:22:02 really, really bad. And overall you're in a tough spot with Gino because he is still a capable quarterback. 10 wins is 10 wins. He's a quarterback where you're like, he's not a bad quarterback, but you also know you won't win a Super Bowl with him. Right. Not as likely.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Not gonna happen. Yeah, impossible. I mean, I guess he could be the backup and come in and it goes. OK, Mr. Sam Darnold, it's impossible. Hey, all right. Sam Darnold's the trump card forever, because he's apparently figured it out. Well, look, Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Can you win a Super Bowl at Baker Mayfield? Yes. Two years ago, you would have said impossible. Also, don't know about those two yet. Like, the playoffs are all that matter for those players. You can get to the playoffs with a good record and then it doesn't matter. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:50 You know, Kyler, you remember Cardinals 11 wins, was it? 10 or 11 wins with Cliff. Oh yeah. They get to the playoffs, they fold. Imploded. You know, will Sam Darnold step up in the playoffs will be the question. You probably look at Gino at this stage of his career
Starting point is 00:23:03 and say, at some point you gotta say, is this the guy that we want to build the foundation of the team around? I don't know, I'm not saying the answer's no definitive. What I'm saying is it's really difficult because, look, you're a 10-win team, what do you do? If you keep Gino next year, you're gonna win enough games that you're not in the quarterback sweepstakes,
Starting point is 00:23:23 and then you're not in the quarterback sweepstakes and then you're just kind of stuck. You can never fully commit to a rebuild at the quarterback position. The fact that they won 10 games and they've got a new head coach this year that wants to improve and get better, I can't imagine that they would look to start over and rebuild. Is he? I don't know. He has one more year. One more year, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah, I mean you guys are probably right. I don't know how happy DK Metcalf was with this season. It's a pretty rough one for Metcalf. JSN had the breakout. Tyler Lockett wants to keep playing and we know they re-upped him money-wise. The thing for DK is like if everyone on the team is having a terrible terrible year Then you go. Well, it was there's the quarterback. It's the offense is the team
Starting point is 00:24:11 But one of the wide receivers had a true breakout here. So that's DK's got a look in the mirror and figured out what happened the cap hit for Tyler lockets 30 million dollars So he will be gone. He will be cut what yeah dead cat cap hit for Tyler Lockett's 30 million dollars. What have they done? So he will be gone. He will be cut. What? Yeah, dead cap.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Oh, that's not the dead cap. Dead cap is only four million. Okay. Cap hit is 30. So that's a, you have to restructure if you want to stay. Correct. Yep. And Blake Coram on the other side should get the opportunities at running back for the Rams.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Jimmy Hanselm himself getting the start. Hasn't taken a snap all year. That's Jimmy Garoppolo. I can't believe he's still in the league. Yep yeah when Jimmy Garoppolo and Carson Wentz are getting snaps that's a fun week. In the NFL Pukka Nakua they need to sit him down. So maybe some Jordan Winnington maybe some Tutu Atwell, Tyler Johnson, action. Yeah. Miami's eight and eight, the Jets are four and 12, the DraftKings Sportsbook line, Miami minus one. Even though it's a must win for Miami,
Starting point is 00:25:12 the over-under is 39 and the line is indicative of a quarterback issue. We're gonna have Snoop Huntley. Pro Bowler. Yeah, 2023 Pro Bowler. I believe, I read something about Huntley's started, whatever it is, three games in four years, they're always the last game of the season
Starting point is 00:25:29 or something like that. Yeah, it's multiple years of weak 17s. They gotta win, but if they win and the Chiefs manage to pull off the upset against Denver, which is, it's always possible with a rookie quarterback behind center, things change. That one, I'm not going almost step-set, but it's close.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I do think, I think the Chiefs will cover. I mean, they're a 15-and-1 team, and it's not just because of Patrick Mahomes, and they can't sit everybody. They're good. Non-Pro Bowl, they're Patrick Mahomes. That makes me, you know, it's so weird how Patrick Mahomes has turned into a heel for everybody.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yes. Because it makes me happy that he didn't make the Pro Bowl, but I've always loved Patrick Mahomes. He's awesome. Yeah, yeah. You just get tired of it. You do. You do get a little bit tired of it.
Starting point is 00:26:14 3900 yards and 26 touchdowns. That is definitely part of it. If he was out there throwing 5,050, Joe Burrow, yeah, we would love him. Come on, step it up. If he was an MVP candidate, for sure. And look, I don't have anything against the Chiefs, but you do, you get a little bit tired of it,
Starting point is 00:26:29 and you now watch the games with the filter of bad calls. Like, it's in my head. The complaining has biased me. Because it seems like they get better calls. Eh, it's the absence of the offense. I mean, we're just a couple years removed from 5200 yards and 41 touchdowns. Oh my gosh, and then the last the last two years It's he's right at the same numbers about 4,000 yards and 26 touchdowns like this. No Tyreek
Starting point is 00:26:56 It's it's no Tyreek for the first one of those Yes, oh gosh, yeah, great. It's it's so weird They found a way to just manufacture victories or like it's a easier this way Kelsey isn't the same player So really now you're at the point where it's no Tyreague no Kelsey. Yeah, you need it's good. You need a Superstar what I mean if for she rice it played the whole year Yeah, what his numbers would be and worthy. I mean if you go you better stop them this year NFL Because you go into next year and you've year, NFL, because you go on to next year, and you've got Rushie Rice back, Xavier Worthy maturing. You have Rice at some point.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Right. No Tua, A-chan, his rushing yard line is 49 and a half. How do you feel about A-chan? I don't feel great about him in the games without Tua. He has not been that involved. We've talked about it. He's not the type of back that can go against heavy stacked boxes.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So on the ground, rushing-wise, I think I would take the under there. You're hoping that he can get enough receptions. But the receptions, again, have been coming with Tua. So, 8chan is a guy that you're probably playing in the landscape of this week. They're in a must-win matchup and he's extremely talented. But I'm holding my breath,
Starting point is 00:28:05 and he's not in my DraftKings lineup. If you get to choose from the whole player pool, I'm not expecting a big game from him. What about the wide receivers with Snoop Huntley? Tyreek had a good game last week, they need to win. Johnny Smith, of course, the tight end four on the year. And doesn't Johnny have to play every snap in the game to get that money?
Starting point is 00:28:27 He's trying to do a Greg Olson impression. Yeah, they just gotta win this one. Has he thought about playing center? Devonte Adams reception line five and a half. The Jets are just, there's an aura, their stink aura has an aura. Like this double aura, like Aaron Rodgers, I don't think he plays anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Who wants, like you exchange the trouble that Rodgers is for the value is on the field. And when that no longer becomes the equation of like, yeah, I can tolerate all of that because I'm getting all of this on the field. Because I'm gonna get four wins. Yeah, if you stink on the field and stink off the field, might be time to walk away.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And he said, I'm more resigned to the reality of the situation, I think there's gonna be change here. He knows that it's probably his last game. At least with the Jets. Breeze Hall's the RB 18. There's always the Browns, Andy Yeah, they'll they'll make you know because that's that's a stink comparison chart in Aaron Rodgers is a breath of fresh air compared to Deshaun Watson
Starting point is 00:29:36 That yeah, but having them both in the locker room at the same time Oh, man, what you need for a super bowl. Get the cameras in there. Get the cameras in there. Hard knocks. Watson or Rogers. Oh man. That'd be too much. Oh man. With Jamis. Bring Jamis back to be the third. Get Jamis in that locker room. I'll sign up for a new subscription. The new Hard Knocks channel, I'll pay for that. Breeze Hall, Jason, RB 18 on the year, entering 2025 next season, final year of a rookie deal. He's an RB 2.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Are you laughing about Breeze? Jason's just because everything, like, it's tied to Jason. The way that this man passionately loved Breeze Hall, yeah, like literally, like one of his own children. The way that this man passionately loved Breeze Hall. Like literally, like one of his own children. That is the amount of care and love that Jason had for Breeze Hall. And now.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And it felt like it paid off too. He was the running back four last year. He was unbelievably great, so exposed, such a good pass catcher. And I don't know how much is the Jets, or the Identity, or Rogers, or how much is Breeze, but he doesn't look that great. Does this, is this a Tennyson tis better to have loved
Starting point is 00:30:52 and lost than never to have loved at all? Yeah. It was a good run. Yeah, I'm happy I loved Breeze last year. Garrett Wilson. Are we cool with these wide receivers for the Jets this week? The Adams, yeah. You know Adams would be going for numbers. Yeah he's going for greatness. Are we like where is there was all that chatter about the 500th touchdown?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah he didn't throw a touchdown so that means it's still chattering. So the next touchdown for Aaron Rodgers should be his 500th, I believe. Well, I'm just trying to figure it out. Is it actually? I mean, I can't imagine that it's not, because they talked about it ad nauseum last week. Devante Adams came out and said he wanted to catch his 500th
Starting point is 00:31:41 touchdown. I think I know what's going on. Our personal game logs on the fantasy footballers. Yeah, we're limited to 10 years. We go to 2009. He's at 499 right now. OK. So I mean, you want a better touchdown,
Starting point is 00:31:56 Devonte Adams might try to force the issue there. Yeah, and what a great feeling it must be for Garrett Wilson to know that no matter what he does on that route, on the five yard line Yes, he won't get the football. That's why you go steal it Run the same around you you play DB you cut your route right under his fate and you go get that You know where the ball's going or he gets the target and just slaps the ball down. No 500 Wow, what a dysfunctional situation
Starting point is 00:32:22 slaps the ball down, no 500. Wow, what a dysfunctional situation. Here are a couple of non-playoff teams playing football. The 49ers at six and 10, the Cardinals at home at seven and nine, the DraftKings Sportsbook line, Arizona minus four, over under 42 and a half, Cardinals favored, Brock Purdy out. The Pastronaut back in revenge game oh my
Starting point is 00:32:46 Josh Dobbs yeah Josh Dobbs the Cardinals defense could be a sneaky play this week against Dobbs but Murray Harrison I don't hate Harrison this week I think if there was one thing you'd want to get going in Arizona at home you want to get him going did you see he made a contested catch last week against the Rams? Did you see that side line contested? What a guy. It's there. It's there. That's the number four overall pick type of stuff. It's there somewhere, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I will say with Joshua Dobbs, he might be a sneaky play. Because of the rushing? Because of the rushing. He obviously didn't start the full season last year. Had a couple games with Arizona, a couple games with Minnesota. But he had five top 12 performances. And those usually came on the back of 41 rushing yards, 55 rushing yards, 48 rushing yards. He runs. And so this isn't a scary Cardinals team or situation where you go, I'm like, oh,
Starting point is 00:33:44 man. What is the record by? Earth's What's the number the receptions nine more than Brock Bowers? So Bowers is at 108 so is it 116 then once? I think it's seen I think 117 would break it right Correct yeah once you break it so okay. I'm just you know It's not likely, but it's not impossible for Trey McBride. Just steal it.
Starting point is 00:34:06 McBride's only four receptions behind Brock Bowers. Didn't that happen with like, Evan Ingram got so close. Evan Ingram tried last year. No, no, no, no, no, there was the year that like, Oh, that's right, no, it was Kittle. Kittle broke it and then Kelsey broke it right at, or Ertz, I don't remember the name.
Starting point is 00:34:20 No, it was Kittle and Kelsey, I believe, where Kittle set the record for yardage at the tight end position. Earlier in the day. And he held it for a couple hours until Kelsey broke it. So in this game, are you, you know, do you have confidence with, I mean, Kittle's not been practicing,
Starting point is 00:34:37 Purdy is out, Dobbs is starting. I like Gerindo, because I think they'll just give him the ball a bunch. And the matchup's there for him. And then Joann Jennings, sure. Jennings. Pearsall and Jennings, sure. Jennings. Pearsall and Jennings you could spot start. Yeah, with-
Starting point is 00:34:49 With fear and trembling. Yeah, it's not my favorite. With Dobbs, with Dobbs there, I'm kind of fine with Dobbs himself because of his rushing. I'm not really loving playing Pearsall or Jennings or Debo. All right, we'll take a break.
Starting point is 00:35:03 We'll hit the exciting Sunday Night Football game. I have one question for you, Mr. Moore. How bad does Jason want this game? I want this game. This, this is the game, man. You're talking about the highest over, under, that we've seen in a long time, two teams that are in division, 14 wins,
Starting point is 00:35:33 playing for a by or on the road week one of the playoffs? Minnesota, Detroit. I want this game. You want this, you know who this game is more important for? By far, Minnesota. I don't know if Minnesota goes on the road and wins with Sam Darnold in the playoffs, but I think the Lions would.
Starting point is 00:35:57 The Lions have been great on the road. So to me, I've been thinking about this game all week. It's hard to predict Minnesota is gonna win by going to Detroit and doing it. I think it's gonna be a great game. It's a two and a half point line on the DK Sportsbook. Both teams gotta have it. I want Aaron Jones healthy, they need him
Starting point is 00:36:19 for this game to be a game. I did take the Vikings personally when- I think I'm on that side. I think the Vikings, I think they win. I'm not calling cover, I'm going win. I think they win. And if they played a month ago pre all of the extra Lions injuries,
Starting point is 00:36:37 the Lions were the best team in the league. Yeah, their defense. Listen to these numbers, the last six weeks, 32nd against quarterbacks, 29th against wide outs, 18th against running backs, 15th against tight ends, and they can definitely win this ball game. They're favored, obviously. They can win it.
Starting point is 00:36:54 They also, I think, they're going to have the more fluid offense at home. It's just a matter of will the Minnesota defense, the difference between their defense and the Lions be enough? Well, the Minnesota defense has not been good in the secondary. That's still one we've targeted. It's very difficult to run on them over the course of the season, but you can throw the ball and now you match up ironically without David Montgomery. The passing work for golf and Gibbs and Amon Ra and Laporta, it lines up well. So I mean this is why the over-under is so high because you just don't see the way that these offenses
Starting point is 00:37:28 match up against these defenses. They're gonna score. They're just gonna keep doing it. Game one between these two was week seven and that was the 29-31 Detroit pulled off the, I think they got it late too. 31-29 on a 44 yard Jake Bates field goal with 15 seconds left and they blitzed off a ton in that game
Starting point is 00:37:52 look this game doesn't have a lot of fantasy questions other than the health of Aaron Jones which I look I think he's on the field we have three starts of the week Jameson Williams by Mike Jared Goff and Jordan Addison are my starts of the week in this game I think you play every player Gibbs has a DK rushing receiving line of 126 and a half yikes He has gained 10 plus rushing yards on 16.3 percent of his attempts It's why Mike had fear from moment playing against moment one to the end this version of Gibbs in fantasy with out David Montgomery is.
Starting point is 00:38:26 What if Monte wasn't there. Awful, awful season. Just going into next year, like where does Gibbs, does he go, does he threaten McCaffrey or somebody for the number one spot? I would say so. Barkley. Like if you're like, I'm gonna draft Gibbs 101, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:41 That seems like it would be fair enough, right? Yes. Because his variance would go away. His, seems like it would be fair enough. Yes. Because his variance would go away. His goal lines would be his, the potential loss of, you know, he's such a physical player too. Like Monty is, Monty is the Kam Scataboo of the NFL as I call him. Nice. Have you come around on Kam Scataboom there, by the way, Falcon? Nah, he's Luca. Oh, that's quite the comp. Oh, man. Yeah, one of the best.
Starting point is 00:39:12 So is he going to Dallas? No. Yeah, yeah. So he, Gibbs, Gibbs only played 52% of the snaps last week. Because he had the cut on his face. He missed multiple, even before the cut yeah jamar jefferson and craig reynolds were in on goal line snaps can you imagine 52 percent of snaps the rb2 on the week yeah any other thoughts fantasy wise on this game i mean other than i want this game yeah i'm very sad that this is not on the main slate for our next
Starting point is 00:39:40 segment sure but other than that no i mean i'm thrilled it's an island game. The whole world's gonna be watching this. Make sure you have just your dinner and your snacks, have it all planned out. You don't want to be thinking about that while this game is on. No you don't. Focus. Lock in. Oh look at this button. Fantasy Face Off presented by DraftKings Alrighty here we go I managed to take it home last week 159 to 158 dominated Mike by a point You got me. Dominated Jason with a pathetic 148 Loser. And so you get this button Wheel of shame
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'm excited about this. Yeah, the look on Andy's face. I have no idea made me really unhappy just now All right, spin that wheel a smuggler juggler smuggler juggler Jerry Jones. Oh, hair problems. Hair problems? Hair problems. Hair problems? Well first, let's put this on, Jason.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh, gross. Okay, is it the hairy chest? You got a little t-shirt you gotta put on there. Not that it's much different than if you just took your shirt off. He's putting the shirt on, everyone. Yeah, take the hat off, Jason, because you've got to put this on.
Starting point is 00:41:09 OK, all right. Is this the skull it? No, it's a little Costanzi looking. Yeah, there he is. All right, all right. You can come check out the YouTube. You're looking good. You got a tan now.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Very nice. Oh, look at that. Look at that. You do have hair. The tightness of the shirt is really. This is a good look, Jason. Oh, it's weird because. I hold silver.
Starting point is 00:41:40 This is not where my nipple is. It is now. Okay, well let's have a show. Okay, well why don't you give us your quarterback for the week, Mr. Hair. Oh no, there's glasses too. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, thank you. So that I can't see.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That's right. Maybe they're prescription. I was going to say maybe they'll fit over. I forgot about the glasses. What are they, some Elvis glasses? Oh, all right. Yeah. I just took it up a notch, man.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Very good luck. I've seen this guy in Vegas. Yeah. You walk around the strip, you see this guy a few times. All right, and now the computer is zoomed. My quarterback is, I'm gonna go with the start of the week, even if it's three quarters, I think Baker Mayfield is cooking in this game
Starting point is 00:42:21 and has three touchdowns, ton of yards. I got Baker, 7,000. We all got Baker? Yep. Laser. Laser out there. All right, couple running backs, Jay. So this is the grossest lineup I've ever made.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I'm going with Blake Coram at 5,600 and Ray Davis at 5,200. I have punted my running backs off of the bridge. Well, I have Blake Coram at 5200. I have punted my running backs off of the bridge. Well, I have Blake Coram at 5600 as a running back with Michael Carter at 4700. I have Blake Coram and Michael Carter. So Coram, wash, a wash. Running, or wide receivers, Jay? Wide receivers. I have Mike Evans, obviously is the stack. Do we all have Mike Evans?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yes. Yeah, we do. Okay. I have Brian Thomas Jr. and Malik Neighbors. This is like a pure rookie lineup. I have Malik Neighbors as well, and I have Adam Thielen at 6200. Oh, come on. I have Adam Thielen at 6200 and then my other whiteout is Alec Pierce. I almost put him in there. All right, tight end, flex, defense Jason. Chigga Conquo at tight end. My defense is the Arizona Cardinals at 2,700
Starting point is 00:43:29 against the Pastronaut. And in the flex, I did a last second pivot away from my boy Troy Franklin to Jordan Whittington way down at 3,300. That happened on the show. Yes it did. I have Chigga Conquo at 3,800. I went on the show. Yes it did. I took a Conquo at 3,800. I went with the most expensive defense on the week. I have the Buccaneers, 3,600,
Starting point is 00:43:50 and I have Sean Tucker, who I think will salt the game away for just 4,000. Oh Conquo, I got J.K. Dobbins against the Vegas Raiders at 6,300, and I have the Denver Broncos against Carson Wentz. That's not bad, that's not bad. That was Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook.
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