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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore
and Mike Wright. Welcome in!
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Friday January 3rd, the Fantasyers Mike Wright Jason Moore Andy Holloway
Back with you our final
Episode of the regular season and
Week 18
Here we are good luck. Yes and soon
Goodbye. Yeah
18 nasty saw somebody on Twitter
Asking about you know two-week championship games
Because maybe that's a solution of making week 18 not as
detrimental
So you have Josh Allen.
Yeah, I was gonna say,
there are just too many significant players sitting.
That's the fundamental problem.
It would be equivalent to say,
championship game is gonna be a week
where there's eight buys.
You know what I mean?
10 buy weeks.
It just makes, the reason we don't like it,
it's not like we don't like more fantasy football.
Yeah, we love fantasy football.
And obviously 10% of you are in those games.
And look, if you have to choose
between a week 18 only championship game.
And not playing?
No, I was gonna say, or a 17-18 combo.
The 17-18 combo is better
because you're removing half of the value.
It makes a half as bad, yeah.
But it would be a lot nicer
if you weren't playing this week, just because it's. Half is bad, yeah. But it would be a lot nicer if you weren't playing this week,
just because it's.
We're good, man.
Yeah, no.
No, we're here.
We're here.
Let them eat their cake.
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If you're gonna do a week 18 title game,
you should have a redraft of the teams
between the two champions.
Oh, that would be-
And they only get to pick lions or Vikings.
Well, they only would choose that of their own volition,
but that's actually a good idea.
Whoever gets to the championship, if you're in week 18,
those two rosters-
Just take your team and throw it in the garbage.
No, you take those two teams, all the roster, and you have to draft those two rosters. Just take your team and throw it in the garbage. No, you take those two teams, all the roster,
and you have to draft those two players.
Draft, oh, I get golf.
No one's taking Barkley.
No, no they're not, because he's not gonna play.
Saquon will be forgotten in history now.
No one will ever remember his name.
What a loser.
Justice Hill is out with
a concussion. The Browns? They've decided to go with Zap Zap Zap. Zap Zap Zap. Bailey
Zappy not Dorian Thompson Robinson because they wanted to see how bad the line would
get. It got to 20. It's at Baltimore minus 20. Yeah, I think I saw the Browns projected for 10 points
at one point in time, which is insane.
Generous.
Generous.
Chase Brown, T Higgins, questionable for the Bengals
start this week.
Yeah, Chase Brown didn't practice all week,
and they elevated Kendall Milton?
Not Minton, Milton.
So that's usually a sign that they're getting ready
to be without their starting running back.
Roma Dunes, a DMP with an illness.
Players rarely miss with illness,
so he should be out there.
Christian Watson, DMP on Thursday with a knee.
He probably will miss.
Josh Jacobs, limited.
Tony Pollard, limited because Tony Pollard
hasn't practiced in six months.
No, but he is still close enough
to a couple of really important incentives.
I know he's gonna push to play.
That's the perfect incentive situation.
That game.
Couple teams need to lose, nothing going on,
just get guys their monies.
We'll say the Josh Jacobs was asked about playing
and he said, yeah, I'm probably seeing less work this week
Interesting. Oh, I didn't hear that
Tajay Spears was a DMP dealing with the concussion. So snip snap with that running back room
Anthony Richardson a
DMP again on Thursday. Yeah, he's not gonna play
I mean he it would take a lot and all the first team reps are going to flacco
So I think the expectation there, obviously
with their implosion last week, they're out of the playoff running, there's no reason to bring a hurt
Anthony Richardson into this game. That was today's News and Notes presented by USA Insurance. Learn
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on today's show but let's jump right in.
on today's show but let's jump right in.
Yesterday we talked about the Browns, Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, the two Saturday games and then we got into the Panthers, Falcons, Commanders, Cowboys, Bears, Packers, Texans,
Titans, Jags, Colts, Bills Bills Patriots games the Sunday games will
resume our fantasy forecast with the New York football Giants the 3 and 13 Giants
taking on the 13 and 3 Philadelphia Eagles the Eagles are still three point
favorites despite the fact that they will be arresting some players this week
and probably starting a third string quarterback. The over-under is just 37 and a half.
This is not an easy game to-
Tanner McKee was slinging.
Tanner McKee?
Yeah.
Yeah, he had two touchdowns, right?
On his fourth throw.
This is true.
I know we know the math, but to actually see it in someone's game log,
his touchdown percent was 50
So I I'm seeing this picture of Tanner McKee and my first thought was
He is kind of challenging Davis Mills for the the neck the neck
Yeah, okay, and then I see the note from Kyle and he says
Challenging Davis Mills and Mike Glenn and for longest neck
All right, which is one of the features of a backup quarterback.
We need to slap one of those on Kyler.
Yeah, let him see over that line.
Oh my gosh.
Kyler, if he was that, yeah, that would be-
I know that the, you know, you can extend your shins.
Yeah, can you extend your neck?
That's what I'm, like, the shins is like,
it's long, it's painful.
I'd extend it all.
I don't think so, man.
I think you guys- Shins and neck?
As fast as he runs, that thing would just be left behind.
What about a?
You know, he'd just be like, ah!
What about a super long arm?
One?
Like a space jam arm.
I don't think that helps him to see over the line.
He won't see, but he won't get the passes batted down.
Fair.
None of this really seems possible.
Tyrone Tracy, Malik Neighbors.
I would deadhead it, dude.
Neighbors reception line's at 6 and 1 half, Mike.
Yeah, I like it.
You're in on that.
Tyrone Tracy rushing yard line at 50 and 1 half.
Those two guys deserve the opportunity
to just put it on display in this game.
Yes.
And they'll be facing some backups
or rotational players in Philly.
This is why week 18 is tough, though.
I mean, Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown, Devante Smith. Why would those guys be out there? players in Philly. This is why week 18 is tough though.
Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, why would those guys be out there?
They're dealing with problems anyways.
You got to get Barkley, Brown, Smith, and Hurts healthy.
So the question becomes, I think, you know-
It's Jahan Dotson time is what I'm saying.
Oh baby.
The question is, this is a bad Giants rush defense, right?
Both over the last six weeks the whole season
They're their second worst they give up the most fantasy points
so I know it's not a
Star studded cast but can a Kenneth Gainwell or will Shipley like good people are going to have to play some of the backups
On these teams. I know Andy you brought up. Yeah, far Blake Quorum, Ray Davis as two rookies
who are going to inherit a workload this week, presumably. Does Kenny Gainwell?
To me, it's more the Shipley shot.
You think so? You think the rest Gainwell?
I think Gainwell is, he'll be used, but also part of that starting rotation that they do
utilize him. I don't know. I'd give Shipley a shot.
That's the problem. I'd love to play one of them.
But you don't recruit.
I have no idea. I mean, like, Gainwell is the vet. He's the true backup. Will Shipley
is... He's barely played at all.
Yeah, he has not done much.
This is true. This is true. That's why it's more difficult.
I think it would be Kenneth Gainwell. I can't. You can't rest. I mean, you were talking about this off air, Andy, about some of the great coaches that
were saying when you rest, it's not like you can't play the game.
And you have to have starters play.
Yeah, Dan Campbell, Jim Harbaugh, or John Harbaugh, and Bill Belichick just talked about
the fact you can only, you know, you got to dress a certain amount of players which means
you have to choose who you actually make an active and the other guys you know
you need to give them a fair shake at being out there with players that can
help them around them so yeah Gainwell would probably be the better bet.
New Orleans 5-11 taking on the 9-7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers it's the the
Buccaneers have the second highest total of the week, implied
point total at almost 29, their 14 point favorites, which look, if it wasn't
for that one Baltimore game, this would be the storyline and how big of
favorites the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are.
And, you know, New Orleans is it's over.
Like, uh, you know, we talked about You know Alvin Kamara Kendrick Miller both didn't practice
Spencer rattler a
Defense is so excited when he sees that on the other side Chris O'Lave looks like was a full participant
But he's still in protocol. So I don't I mean I can't imagine they bring him
It would be it would be malpractice.
It would. It would feel like that should be illegal.
At the running back position though. Right to jail.
I mean you got Jamal Williams is there but so is Nine Opportunities last week.
Clyde Edwards Allaire.
Might as well see what you have in Clyde.
He's 5 for 20 on the ground.
He caught two passes for 10 yards.
Yep.
Not against the Bucs.
The Bucs' rush defense at the beginning of the year
looked a little bad.
They missed Vita Viv for a couple games,
but they've been fantastic.
Yeah, the matchups stinks.
The matchup is terrible for a running back of that caliber.
Here's how I think this game will play out on the other side.
I think one, the defense will be outstanding. I think they're the best defense of the week and
they'll be dominant. Baker, your start of the week Jason, and Mike Evans, they will
get it done. Evans will get to a thousand yards. His DK receiving line is 99 and a
half. He needs 85 to get there and five receptions. That will happen. Baker, Evans. He needs five receptions, 85 yards, for $3 million.
Right, right.
He's going to get it.
Well, I'm guessing the 85 is what he needs to get to the thousand.
That is to get to the thousand, yes.
And so that will happen.
It is a must-win game for them.
Baker talked about the record.
He came out in a press conference that was saying, this is really important to us.
But he said, winning is most important, but they go hand in hand. If Mike Evans has a press conference, it was saying this is really important to us. But he said winning is most important,
but they go hand in hand.
If Mike Evans has a great game, we're gonna win.
So this is get Mike Evans the ball.
Yeah, and this is also a situation where you are,
I mean, you are just heavy favorites.
I think the second, or maybe the last third of the game,
these guys are not gonna be on the field.
They'll probably do enough damage
in those first two, three quarters
that you're gonna start seeing Sean Tucker
salting the game away.
We're not gonna have Cade Otten.
I think Jalen McMillan.
Jalen McMillan is putting his best
Jehan Dots in rookie season together.
Yeah.
The kind of disproportionate touchdown success
So, you know, I want to see Mike Evans get like a
70 yard touchdown
Right away and then then they just do real cheapy
It's like it is fully intentional. We're just padding his receptions right now. It is nice they have to win.
You know what I mean?
It's nice that they gotta get out ahead of it.
But this is a, it should be a Tampa Bay whooping
in a playoff spot.
Yeah.
Kansas City's five and one.
They take on the nine and seven Broncos.
The Draft King Sportsbook line now,
Denver minus 10 and a half.
The over-under is 40.
Carson Wentz.
He's gonna start. 14.8 implied points for the
Chiefs, so there's not a lot of value to like there. I know, Andy, you like Noah
Gray because if they're resting their starters, obviously the elder statesman
centerpiece of Travis Kelsey is not going to get run, so Noah Gray has been
good in relief, but it is still Carson Wentz. And
that's if it's Carson Wentz for the whole game.
Which I think it will be. I think with Carson Wentz, he did this last year, needed to play
for a contract. I think it'll be Wentz. I also think that this is a scary one for Denver,
but they should be able to put it together. They should be able to beat them, but it's
divisional. It's Carson Wentz who, you know, like I said, he'll be motivated
You have enough hodgepodge of wide receivers. They're all not sitting right? I mean, I wondered that I was
Juju should be out there. I would think Hollywood they'd want more snaps for Hollywood in the regular season
Xavier were these a rookie so it's like you you're not really resting
Xavier Worthy is a rookie, so it's like, you're not really resting rookies.
So I think he'd be out there.
No, maybe limited snaps for Worthy and Hopkins,
but yeah, it's kind of a weird game.
On the other side, Bo Nicks at home, heavily favored.
You can play him.
Yeah.
What do you do at running back for Denver?
Same thing you've done at running back for Denver
for weeks is avoid it.
Yeah.
There's no, I mean, it's still a good defense. They
shouldn't have Chris Jones this week, which is bad for their rushing defense, but I don't expect the
Broncos to go out there and put up 35 points against a divisional opponent, even though they're
resting some of their starters. Courtland Sutton, he has a receiving line of 72 and a half.
He needs 82 more receiving yards to get another half a mil.
And Marvin Mims, do we have to talk about Marvin Mims?
You know, I don't think that he is,
I mean, I guess in a week like this
where you might need to start someone,
he has been on the field a little bit more, involved more,
and you know, like he had an end zone target
that wasn't just a big breakaway touchdown
that used his speed, it was actually just an NFL play,
which was very uplifting for Marvin Mim's believers.
I think he's more of a DFS dart throw
than someone who'd be putting in.
He's running really hot, He's hitting the big plays.
The eight targets last week was, that's good to see.
34 catches on the season, and eight of them were last week.
Yeah.
The Chargers are 10 and 6, and they take on the 4 and 12 Las
Vegas Raiders.
Chargers, 4 and 1 half point road favorites.
The over-under is 41 and 1 half.
The Chargers can
improve to the five seed if they win in the Steelers lose against Cincinnati
that seems very. It's possible very possible and important because
presumably right now the five seed would be playing against the Houston Texans
the six seed would be playing against the Baltimore Ravens and that is massive
yeah I mean that's that's one of those like you feel like you're. You know
getting half a buy.
I think everybody wants to go to Houston.
If you have to choose a division winner to play,
Houston is by far the, what is the,
what was the picture we kept using with you?
With the two dragons?
Oh yeah, I don't remember the name of the.
Kingdora?
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, they are the goofy face of the division winners.
The Chargers, in that case, it's a little surprising
they're only four and a half point favorites.
Yeah, they're on the road.
Raiders are still...
Oh, the pictures up.
Is the Steelers game before the Chargers game?
Because maybe that's part of the line.
I believe so.
If it's before, Kyle, can you confirm that, the timing of those games?
I thought the Steelers, yeah, Steelers are Saturday.
Okay, so that makes so much more sense
because there's a chance Steelers just win
and this game is non-consequential for the Chargers.
So there's a hedge there in the line.
So the Chargers, Herbert, Dobbins is Jason's start
of the week, Lad McConkey, yeah, still limited.
Been dealing with injury all year.
He's gonna play.
Will Dizzle, Mike, you like him this week.
I do, I do.
It's a good matchup.
The Raiders across the season are dead last
against tight ends.
There is question marks on the other side.
Amir Abdullah had a big game last week,
but is not practicing.
Yeah, so we were worried at the very end of that game,
he got injured, we didn't hear anything about it
right after the game, I didn't see anything on Twitter,
but the fact that he has not practiced at all
on Wednesday or Thursday says,
I don't think you can go right back to the well with him,
and then do you really wanna roll out Alexander Madison?
I don't know.
I mean, it's wild.
Amir Abdullah has hodgepodged his way to four top 10, sorry,
four top 15 finishes in the last six weeks.
Amir Abdullah, the Abdullah Express is currently sitting,
this is, let me see, one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven, eight, nine, this is his 10th season,
and it's his best fantasy. Oh gosh. Oh gosh
That's the best fantasy finish of his career in season 10. He got he got stuck with that
Detroit Lions
Stank there was the the run of the career
Yeah, the run of the running backs where it was so much hope for them and what he isn't nothingness
He isn't a prototypical three down back either.
So he definitely settled into kind of a focused role.
Brock Bowers.
He's interesting.
Reception line seven and a half, nine receptions from breaking the record.
If I was the Raiders, this would be my one sole focus of the game, would be getting Brock
Bowers, pro bowler, Brock Bowers, the
opportunity to break this record.
Which would be incredible.
And just so that we're clear, that is not the rookie record, which he has already broken.
This is the all-time record at tight end.
Correct.
As a rookie.
What an accomplishment that would be.
He's unbelievable.
Yeah, he is.
He is.
He is just magnificent.
All right, we'll take a break, talk some more matchups.
Seattle 9-7 Rams 10-6 Draft King Sportsbook line Seattle minus 6.5 over under 39.
Why is Seattle favored like that?
Well, the Rams are trying to lose. The Rams don't need to play their starters.
Rams don't care, and I know that Seattle has, like,
essentially nothing on the line,
but getting to 10 wins for a club, I think, is...
And a rookie head coach.
I think it's pretty important.
Not only that, but 10 wins is part of big massive payouts
for Geno Smith. He's, I believe,
I believe he's 183 passing yards away and if he gets to 10 wins it's a massive payout. So there are,
I mean, there is incentive for the Seahawks here and the Rams are are gonna be resting. Gino needs
185 but he's got a, and he needs to hold his completion percentage so so
JSN is this good money is this good money for Gino so he can you know go
retire someplace I mean are they are they gonna move on from Gino Smith
because this was a bad bad season for Gino Smith when you go 17 touchdowns 15
interceptions third straight year dropping your touchdown numbers, throwing more picks.
I mean it's hard to criticize. It's a strange season, yeah. If they win, they're 10 wins.
That's a solid season. And their defense has been like... Pooh-pooh. It's a weird defense.
Started the season okay. Yeah, sometimes they're fantastic, sometimes they're
really, really bad. And overall you're in a tough spot with Gino
because he is still a capable quarterback.
10 wins is 10 wins.
He's a quarterback where you're like,
he's not a bad quarterback, but you also know
you won't win a Super Bowl with him.
Right.
Not as likely.
Not gonna happen.
Yeah, impossible.
I mean, I guess he could be the backup and come in and it goes.
OK, Mr. Sam Darnold, it's impossible.
Hey, all right.
Sam Darnold's the trump card forever,
because he's apparently figured it out.
Well, look, Sam Darnold.
Can you win a Super Bowl at Baker Mayfield?
Yes.
Two years ago, you would have said impossible.
Also, don't know about those two yet.
Like, the playoffs are all that matter for those players.
You can get to the playoffs with a good record
and then it doesn't matter.
Sure.
You know, Kyler, you remember Cardinals 11 wins, was it?
10 or 11 wins with Cliff.
Oh yeah.
They get to the playoffs, they fold.
Imploded.
You know, will Sam Darnold step up in the playoffs
will be the question.
You probably look at Gino at this stage of his career
and say, at some point you gotta say,
is this the guy that we want to build
the foundation of the team around?
I don't know, I'm not saying the answer's no definitive.
What I'm saying is it's really difficult because,
look, you're a 10-win team, what do you do?
If you keep Gino next year, you're gonna win enough games
that you're not in the quarterback sweepstakes,
and then you're not in the quarterback sweepstakes and then
you're just kind of stuck.
You can never fully commit to a rebuild at the quarterback position.
The fact that they won 10 games and they've got a new head coach this year that wants
to improve and get better, I can't imagine that they would look to start over and rebuild.
Is he?
I don't know.
He has one more year. One more year, okay.
Yeah, I mean you guys are probably right.
I don't know how happy DK Metcalf was with this season.
It's a pretty rough one for Metcalf.
JSN had the breakout.
Tyler Lockett wants to keep playing
and we know they re-upped him money-wise.
The thing for DK is like if everyone on the team is having a terrible terrible year
Then you go. Well, it was there's the quarterback. It's the offense is the team
But one of the wide receivers had a true breakout here. So that's DK's got a look in the mirror and figured out what happened
the cap hit for
Tyler lockets 30 million dollars
So he will be gone. He will be cut what yeah dead cat cap hit for Tyler Lockett's 30 million dollars. What have they done?
So he will be gone.
He will be cut.
What?
Yeah, dead cap.
Oh, that's not the dead cap.
Dead cap is only four million.
Okay.
Cap hit is 30.
So that's a, you have to restructure if you want to stay.
Correct.
Yep.
And Blake Coram on the other side should get the opportunities at running back for the Rams.
Jimmy Hanselm himself getting the start.
Hasn't taken a snap all year.
That's Jimmy Garoppolo. I can't believe he's still in the league.
Yep yeah when Jimmy Garoppolo and Carson Wentz are getting snaps that's a fun week.
In the NFL Pukka Nakua they need to sit him down.
So maybe some Jordan Winnington maybe some Tutu Atwell, Tyler Johnson, action. Yeah. Miami's eight and eight, the Jets are four and 12,
the DraftKings Sportsbook line, Miami minus one.
Even though it's a must win for Miami,
the over-under is 39 and the line is indicative
of a quarterback issue.
We're gonna have Snoop Huntley.
Pro Bowler.
Yeah, 2023 Pro Bowler.
I believe, I read something about Huntley's started,
whatever it is, three games in four years,
they're always the last game of the season
or something like that.
Yeah, it's multiple years of weak 17s.
They gotta win, but if they win
and the Chiefs manage to pull off the upset
against Denver, which is, it's always possible
with a rookie quarterback behind center,
things change.
That one, I'm not going almost step-set, but it's close.
I do think, I think the Chiefs will cover.
I mean, they're a 15-and-1 team,
and it's not just because of Patrick Mahomes,
and they can't sit everybody.
They're good.
Non-Pro Bowl, they're Patrick Mahomes.
That makes me, you know, it's so weird
how Patrick Mahomes has turned into a heel for everybody.
Yes.
Because it makes me happy that he didn't make the Pro Bowl,
but I've always loved Patrick Mahomes.
He's awesome.
Yeah, yeah.
You just get tired of it.
You do.
You do get a little bit tired of it.
3900 yards and 26 touchdowns.
That is definitely part of it.
If he was out there throwing 5,050,
Joe Burrow, yeah, we would love him.
Come on, step it up.
If he was an MVP candidate, for sure.
And look, I don't have anything against the Chiefs,
but you do, you get a little bit tired of it,
and you now watch the games with the filter of bad calls.
Like, it's in my head.
The complaining has biased me.
Because it seems like they get better calls.
Eh, it's the absence of the offense.
I mean, we're just a couple years removed from
5200 yards and 41 touchdowns. Oh my gosh, and then the last the last two years
It's he's right at the same numbers about 4,000 yards and 26 touchdowns like this. No Tyreek
It's it's no Tyreek for the first one of those
Yes, oh gosh, yeah, great. It's it's so weird
They found a way to just manufacture victories or like it's a easier this way Kelsey isn't the same player So really now you're at the point where it's no Tyreague no Kelsey. Yeah, you need it's good. You need a
Superstar what I mean if for she rice it played the whole year
Yeah, what his numbers would be and worthy. I mean if you go you better stop them this year NFL
Because you go into next year and you've year, NFL, because you go on to next year,
and you've got Rushie Rice back, Xavier Worthy maturing.
You have Rice at some point.
Right.
No Tua, A-chan, his rushing yard line is 49 and a half.
How do you feel about A-chan?
I don't feel great about him in the games without Tua.
He has not been that involved.
We've talked about it.
He's not the type of back
that can go against heavy stacked boxes.
So on the ground, rushing-wise,
I think I would take the under there.
You're hoping that he can get enough receptions.
But the receptions, again, have been coming with Tua.
So, 8chan is a guy that you're probably playing
in the landscape of this week.
They're in a must-win matchup and he's extremely talented.
But I'm holding my breath,
and he's not in my DraftKings lineup.
If you get to choose from the whole player pool,
I'm not expecting a big game from him.
What about the wide receivers with Snoop Huntley?
Tyreek had a good game last week, they need to win.
Johnny Smith, of course, the tight end four on the year.
And doesn't Johnny have to play every snap in the game
to get that money?
He's trying to do a Greg Olson impression.
Yeah, they just gotta win this one.
Has he thought about playing center?
Devonte Adams reception line five and a half.
The Jets are just,
there's an aura, their stink aura has an aura.
Like this double aura, like Aaron Rodgers,
I don't think he plays anymore.
Who wants, like you exchange the trouble that Rodgers is
for the value is on the field.
And when that no longer becomes the equation of like,
yeah, I can tolerate all of that
because I'm getting all of this on the field.
Because I'm gonna get four wins.
Yeah, if you stink on the field and stink off the field,
might be time to walk away.
And he said, I'm more resigned to the reality
of the situation, I think there's gonna be change here.
He knows that it's probably his last game.
At least with the Jets.
Breeze Hall's the RB 18.
There's always the Browns, Andy
Yeah, they'll they'll make you know because that's that's a stink comparison chart in
Aaron Rodgers is a breath of fresh air compared to Deshaun Watson
That yeah, but having them both in the locker room at the same time
Oh, man, what you need for a super bowl. Get the cameras in there.
Get the cameras in there. Hard knocks. Watson or Rogers. Oh man. That'd be too much. Oh
man. With Jamis. Bring Jamis back to be the third. Get Jamis in that locker room. I'll
sign up for a new subscription. The new Hard Knocks channel, I'll pay for that.
Breeze Hall, Jason, RB 18 on the year,
entering 2025 next season, final year of a rookie deal.
He's an RB 2.
Are you laughing about Breeze?
Jason's just because everything, like, it's tied to Jason.
The way that this man passionately loved Breeze Hall,
yeah, like literally, like one of his own children. The way that this man passionately loved Breeze Hall.
Like literally, like one of his own children.
That is the amount of care and love
that Jason had for Breeze Hall.
And now.
And it felt like it paid off too.
He was the running back four last year.
He was unbelievably great, so exposed,
such a good pass catcher.
And I don't know how much is the Jets,
or the Identity, or Rogers, or how much is Breeze,
but he doesn't look that great.
Does this, is this a Tennyson tis better to have loved
and lost than never to have loved at all?
Yeah.
It was a good run.
Yeah, I'm happy I loved Breeze last year.
Garrett Wilson.
Are we cool with these wide receivers for the Jets this week?
The Adams, yeah. You know Adams would be going for numbers. Yeah he's going for
greatness. Are we like where is there was all that chatter about the 500th touchdown?
Yeah he didn't throw a touchdown so that means it's still chattering.
So the next touchdown for Aaron Rodgers
should be his 500th, I believe.
Well, I'm just trying to figure it out.
Is it actually?
I mean, I can't imagine that it's not,
because they talked about it ad nauseum last week.
Devante Adams came out and said he wanted to catch his 500th
touchdown.
I think I know what's going on.
Our personal game logs on the fantasy footballers.
Yeah, we're limited to 10 years.
We go to 2009.
He's at 499 right now.
OK.
So I mean, you want a better touchdown,
Devonte Adams might try to force the issue there.
Yeah, and what a great feeling it must be for Garrett Wilson
to know that no matter what he does on that route,
on the five yard line
Yes, he won't get the football. That's why you go steal it
Run the same around you you play DB you cut your route right under his fate and you go get that
You know where the ball's going or he gets the target and just slaps the ball down. No 500
Wow, what a dysfunctional situation
slaps the ball down, no 500. Wow, what a dysfunctional situation.
Here are a couple of non-playoff teams playing football.
The 49ers at six and 10, the Cardinals at home at seven
and nine, the DraftKings Sportsbook line,
Arizona minus four,
over under 42 and a half, Cardinals favored,
Brock Purdy out.
The Pastronaut back in revenge game oh my
Josh Dobbs yeah Josh Dobbs the Cardinals defense could be a sneaky play this week
against Dobbs but Murray Harrison I don't hate Harrison this week I think if
there was one thing you'd want to get going in Arizona at home you want to get
him going did you see he made
a contested catch last week against the Rams? Did you see that side line contested? What
a guy.
It's there. It's there. That's the number four overall pick type of stuff.
It's there somewhere, yeah.
I will say with Joshua Dobbs, he might be a sneaky play.
Because of the rushing?
Because of the rushing. He obviously didn't start the full season last year. Had a couple games with Arizona, a couple games with Minnesota.
But he had five top 12 performances.
And those usually came on the back of 41 rushing yards, 55 rushing yards,
48 rushing yards.
He runs.
And so this isn't a scary Cardinals team or situation where you go, I'm like, oh,
man.
What is the record by?
Earth's
What's the number the receptions nine more than Brock Bowers? So Bowers is at 108 so is it 116 then once?
I think it's seen I think 117 would break it right
Correct yeah once you break it so okay. I'm just you know
It's not likely, but it's not impossible for Trey McBride.
Just steal it.
McBride's only four receptions behind Brock Bowers.
Didn't that happen with like,
Evan Ingram got so close.
Evan Ingram tried last year.
No, no, no, no, no, there was the year that like,
Oh, that's right, no, it was Kittle.
Kittle broke it and then Kelsey broke it right at,
or Ertz, I don't remember the name.
No, it was Kittle and Kelsey, I believe,
where Kittle set the record for yardage
at the tight end position.
Earlier in the day.
And he held it for a couple hours until Kelsey broke it.
So in this game, are you, you know,
do you have confidence with,
I mean, Kittle's not been practicing,
Purdy is out, Dobbs is starting.
I like Gerindo,
because I think they'll just give him the ball a bunch.
And the matchup's there for him.
And then Joann Jennings, sure.
Jennings. Pearsall and Jennings, sure. Jennings.
Pearsall and Jennings you could spot start.
Yeah, with-
With fear and trembling.
Yeah, it's not my favorite.
With Dobbs, with Dobbs there,
I'm kind of fine with Dobbs himself
because of his rushing.
I'm not really loving playing Pearsall
or Jennings or Debo.
All right, we'll take a break.
We'll hit the exciting Sunday Night Football game.
I have one question for you, Mr. Moore.
How bad does Jason want this game?
I want this game.
This, this is the game, man.
You're talking about the highest over, under,
that we've seen in a long time,
two teams that are in division, 14 wins,
playing for a by or on the road week one of the playoffs?
Minnesota, Detroit.
I want this game.
You want this, you know who this game is more important for?
By far, Minnesota.
I don't know if Minnesota goes on the road and wins
with Sam Darnold in the playoffs,
but I think the Lions would.
The Lions have been great on the road.
So to me, I've been thinking about this game all week.
It's hard to predict Minnesota is gonna win
by going to Detroit and doing it.
I think it's gonna be a great game.
It's a two and a half point line on the DK Sportsbook.
Both teams gotta have it.
I want Aaron Jones healthy, they need him
for this game to be a game.
I did take the Vikings personally when-
I think I'm on that side.
I think the Vikings, I think they win.
I'm not calling cover, I'm going win.
I think they win.
And if they played a month ago
pre all of the extra Lions injuries,
the Lions were the best team in the league.
Yeah, their defense.
Listen to these numbers, the last six weeks,
32nd against quarterbacks, 29th against wide outs,
18th against running backs, 15th against tight ends, and they can definitely win this ball
game.
They're favored, obviously.
They can win it.
They also, I think, they're going to have the more fluid offense at home.
It's just a matter of will the Minnesota defense, the difference between their defense and the
Lions be enough?
Well, the Minnesota defense has not been good in the
secondary. That's still one we've targeted. It's very difficult to run on them over the
course of the season, but you can throw the ball and now you match up ironically without
David Montgomery. The passing work for golf and Gibbs and Amon Ra and Laporta, it lines up well.
So I mean this is why the over-under is so high because you just don't see the way that these offenses
match up against these defenses.
They're gonna score.
They're just gonna keep doing it.
Game one between these two was week seven
and that was the 29-31 Detroit pulled off the,
I think they got it late too.
31-29 on a 44 yard Jake Bates
field goal with 15 seconds left and they blitzed off a ton in that game
look this game doesn't have a lot of fantasy questions other than the health
of Aaron Jones which I look I think he's on the field we have three starts of the
week Jameson Williams by Mike Jared Goff and Jordan Addison are my starts of the
week in this game
I think you play every player Gibbs has a DK rushing receiving line of 126 and a half yikes
He has gained 10 plus rushing yards on 16.3 percent of his attempts
It's why Mike had fear from moment playing against moment one to the end this version of Gibbs in fantasy
with out David Montgomery is.
What if Monte wasn't there.
Awful, awful season.
Just going into next year, like where does Gibbs,
does he go, does he threaten McCaffrey
or somebody for the number one spot?
I would say so.
Barkley.
Like if you're like, I'm gonna draft Gibbs 101, okay.
That seems like it would be fair enough, right?
Yes.
Because his variance would go away. His, seems like it would be fair enough. Yes. Because his
variance would go away. His goal lines would be his, the potential loss of, you
know, he's such a physical player too. Like Monty is, Monty is the Kam Scataboo
of the NFL as I call him. Nice. Have you come around on Kam Scataboom there, by the way, Falcon? Nah, he's Luca. Oh, that's quite the comp.
Oh, man.
Yeah, one of the best.
So is he going to Dallas?
No.
Yeah, yeah.
So he, Gibbs, Gibbs only played 52% of the snaps last week.
Because he had the cut on his face.
He missed multiple, even before the cut yeah jamar jefferson and craig reynolds were in on goal line snaps can you imagine
52 percent of snaps the rb2 on the week yeah any other thoughts fantasy wise on this game i mean
other than i want this game yeah i'm very sad that this is not on the main slate for our next
segment sure but other than that no i mean i'm thrilled it's an island game. The whole world's gonna be watching this. Make sure you have just your dinner
and your snacks, have it all planned out. You don't want to be thinking about that while
this game is on. No you don't. Focus. Lock in. Oh look at this button. Fantasy Face Off presented by DraftKings
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I'm excited about this. Yeah, the look on Andy's face. I have no idea made me really unhappy just now
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Jerry Jones.
Oh, hair problems.
Hair problems?
Hair problems.
Hair problems?
Well first, let's put this on, Jason.
Oh, gross.
Okay, is it the hairy chest?
You got a little t-shirt you gotta put on there.
Not that it's much different
than if you just took your shirt off.
He's putting the shirt on, everyone.
Yeah, take the hat off, Jason, because you've
got to put this on.
OK, all right.
Is this the skull it?
No, it's a little Costanzi looking.
Yeah, there he is.
All right, all right.
You can come check out the YouTube.
You're looking good.
You got a tan now.
Very nice.
Oh, look at that.
Look at that.
You do have hair.
The tightness of the shirt is really.
This is a good look, Jason.
Oh, it's weird because.
I hold silver.
This is not where my nipple is.
It is now.
Okay, well let's have a show.
Okay, well why don't you give us your quarterback for the week, Mr. Hair.
Oh no, there's glasses too.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, thank you.
So that I can't see.
That's right.
Maybe they're prescription.
I was going to say maybe they'll fit over.
I forgot about the glasses.
What are they, some Elvis glasses?
Oh, all right.
Yeah.
I just took it up a notch, man.
Very good luck.
I've seen this guy in Vegas.
Yeah.
You walk around the strip, you see this guy a few times.
All right, and now the computer is zoomed.
My quarterback is, I'm gonna go with the start of the week,
even if it's three quarters,
I think Baker Mayfield is cooking in this game
and has three touchdowns, ton of yards.
I got Baker, 7,000.
We all got Baker?
Yep.
Laser.
Laser out there.
All right, couple running backs, Jay.
So this is the grossest lineup I've ever made.
I'm going with Blake Coram at 5,600
and Ray Davis at 5,200.
I have punted my running backs off of the bridge.
Well, I have Blake Coram at 5200. I have punted my running backs off of the bridge. Well, I have Blake Coram at 5600 as a running back with Michael Carter at 4700.
I have Blake Coram and Michael Carter.
So Coram, wash, a wash. Running, or wide receivers, Jay?
Wide receivers. I have Mike Evans, obviously is the stack.
Do we all have Mike Evans?
Yes.
Yeah, we do.
Okay. I have Brian Thomas Jr. and Malik
Neighbors. This is like a pure rookie lineup. I have Malik Neighbors as well,
and I have Adam Thielen at 6200. Oh, come on. I have Adam Thielen at 6200 and then my
other whiteout is Alec Pierce. I almost put him in there. All right, tight end, flex,
defense Jason. Chigga Conquo at tight end.
My defense is the Arizona Cardinals at 2,700
against the Pastronaut.
And in the flex, I did a last second pivot
away from my boy Troy Franklin to Jordan Whittington
way down at 3,300. That happened on the show.
Yes it did.
I have Chigga Conquo at 3,800. I went on the show. Yes it did. I took a Conquo at 3,800.
I went with the most expensive defense on the week.
I have the Buccaneers, 3,600,
and I have Sean Tucker,
who I think will salt the game away for just 4,000.
Oh Conquo, I got J.K. Dobbins
against the Vegas Raiders at 6,300,
and I have the Denver Broncos
against Carson Wentz.
That's not bad, that's not bad.
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How are you not putting the solo cam on there?
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Thank you everybody.
With Jason and this spectacular shirt.
Wow.
They don't shimmy quite as well when they're shirt.
When they're shirred?
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