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The final Friday show in a while.
Ooh, final Friday till August.
Because this is the end of the Week 18 preview for the scoundrels out there
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Or just old.
Yeah.
Let's be honest here.
Most of the time what it is is it's old leagues
that have a tradition that they don't want to disrupt
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No, Jason nailed it.
Like, if you are in a league
where you have an unfortunate Week 18 championship
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it makes you look really old.
Like, nice.
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Of the age barrage?
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Oh, my gosh.
A little age shaming.
Doesn't it seem like Papa Josh would do a week 18 league?
He does.
Yeah.
He's saying, I mean, physical appearance, he looks like he would.
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Even Josh is offended by that comment.
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This month?
Yeah.
I'm surprised to see you here.
That's how Josh handles birthdays.
Some people, and I've noticed this, I mean, some people, the birthday,
I think it's the first few years of your life.
Like, Papa Josh, you're sitting in Deucer's Alley today.
Did you have, like, was birthday made very special for your first 10, 15 years of your life. Like Papa Josh, you're sitting in Deucer's Alley today. Did you have, like was birthday made very special for your first 10, 15 years of your life?
Dude, we got sticks.
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It was great.
No, but seriously, did they make a big deal out of it or is it the opposite?
Oh, it was always a big deal.
Well, like I just think that's something to it.
It set you up to.
Take the day off from work for your birthday in your 40s all right we none of us have
ever done that have we taken our birthday off no no no not since the peter piper days right right
right yeah well no i i would i mean yeah you still want to school still go to school if it landed on
my birthday my kids would always ask for that they They'd be like, can I just have the day off? And we're like, no, there's school today.
Yeah.
Just enjoy the attention at school.
I'm not taking that letter.
That school's going to write me.
Be like, your kid's messing too much school.
Well, I'm excited to finish up these Week 18 matchups
as quickly as possible.
It's all about having a good time.
There are big games this week.
There are playoff-style games this week.
There are players that are
certainly going to be reaching for thresholds,
that are reaching for playoff berths,
that are going to be on the field.
We'll talk about more of them today.
You guys did a good job on yesterday's podcast.
Yeah, we did.
Going through the matchups that you covered yesterday. Did you guys have a good job on yesterday's podcast. Yeah, we did. Going through the, you know,
going through the matchups that you covered yesterday.
Did you guys have starts yesterday?
We did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good ones.
Oh,
the best ones.
I didn't hear that part of the show.
I imagine.
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Well, the Ravens have added Dalvin Cook
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He was linked there this offseason, right?
There was Miami?
I don't remember that.
Or was it just Derrick Henry?
Yeah, Derrick Henry was... I remember Henry being linked there I mean they obviously have a need after losing J.K. Dobbins there's a
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Henry news was coming up it was like they they had hardship there and now since then they lost
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So this makes sense.
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Alright, yesterday you guys covered eight matchups yeah we did i was really hoping you
get through them all steelers ravens texans colts browns bangles vikings lions jags titans tight uh
jets patriots falcons saints buccaneers panthers they would have put them in i would have done
them yeah you would have i would i would have run burgundy the heck out of that i would have put him in. I would have done him. Yeah, you would have. I would. You would have Ron Burgundy'd the heck out of that. I would have kept rolling.
Yeah, I appreciate you guys.
Yeah.
Chicago, 7-9.
Packers, 8-8.
DK Sportsbook line, Green Bay minus 3.
At home at Lambeau, over under 45 points.
Bears can play spoiler.
Packers can just terrorize their own fans by being eliminated two years in a row on the final
game of the season but look at Jordan Love look at Jordan Love look at him he's getting it done
look at this little guy look at him go he he's been good I mean you you look at his numbers and
you compare him to all the top tier quarterbacks in football and it's it's pretty comparable i mean
you look at him against patrick my homes his numbers and you know what do you say top you
said top tier quarterbacks that's true yeah yeah um yeah my homes you like justin fields yeah okay
the career's kind of done it's really it's really taking a dump um uh the bears best record ever for
a team holding the number one pick in the last 40 years.
So they have the opportunity to.
Is that a Kyle stat?
Of course.
This is ridiculous.
Yeah, Green Bay beat them in week one.
They've been playing really good football, 4-1 in the last five games.
There's been all these scenarios where Chicago can trade the number one
to the number two and the number two to the number three
and stack up more piles of picks and still get a wide receiver
for Mr.
Justin Fields. But, you know, this game, it's a big one. I mean, Jordan Love and company playing
for their playoff lives. Jaden Reed, big week last week, limited on Thursday. It is a, this is
like one of those convalescent homes during World War I. Like everybody is resting on a bed right now.
I mean, Khalil Herbert limited with a back injury.
Deontay Foreman was a healthy scratch.
DJ Moore with the ankle was limited.
Colt Komet is limited.
Jaden Reed, Dontavian Wicks, Christian Watts, and Luke Musgrave limited.
Aaron Jones, guess what?
Limited.
Limited.
Are they doing a-
Are they like seeing what the other practice report is putting out? Yeah. They're limited? Like, well, you know what? Our guys are limited. Are they doing a... Are they seeing what the other practice report is putting out?
Yeah.
You know what?
Our guys are limited.
Are they battling?
Maybe.
Seeing who can rest more.
We got no one out there today.
We're not even going to be able to field a full team.
What's funny is I think that most players on both sides of the ball will play.
This is an important game for both teams.
The Bears are on a roll.
They're playing good football. They actually look like a team on the rise. Like you said, Andy, they're four and
one in their last five games. That's since Justin Fields came back from his injury. They're playing
to be the spoiler in a divisional matchup. So this game matters to them. And obviously the Packers
win and end. So it's a very important game for both sides the only guys that i'm i'm not sure
cole comet you know his health is a little bit scarier to me um obviously musgrave is i don't
think playing but most of the players i think are going to suit up what was annoying about comet is
that he had such a good first half against arizona two weeks ago and then he just fully
he only played 18 of snaps last game and didn't have a fantasy point. So, yeah, I agree with you on that.
Makes perfect sense.
Anybody else?
Khalil Herbert, you have confidence?
Yeah, I mean, he's been so good the last couple of weeks.
Green Bay is a good matchup.
I think you can play Khalil Herbert.
I would love to see a practice report where he's like,
he's full today at practice.
That would give me more – he's like, oh, he's stuffed.
You should have seen him at the buffet.
He's so full.
That's all I heard.
I saw your face when I said I'd love to see that.
A report to Khalil Herbert is full on Friday.
He's eating again.
He's trying to put on the pounds for Sunday.
But the last two weeks, man, 22 opportunities, 21 opportunities,
top 10 fantasy running back both weeks.
Good matchup.
Have we heard anything on Foreman?
He's toast.
We don't know the specifics.
What's going on here?
It's listed as a personal reason, and he's tweeting out cryptic disappointments.
And what's crazy is he was so good.
He looked so good before then, but I don't think you can rely on him
after being a healthy scratch two weeks in a row.
The Broncos are 8-8, taking on the 7-9 Raiders.
DraftKings Sportsbook line, Las Vegas, minus 3 at home.
Over and under is 37.
Both of them eliminated.
Really low-scoring game the first time around.
Jarrett Stiddle made an O'Connor.
Josh Jacobs, four straight
game time decision.
I'm not excited about this game.
For fantasy purposes?
Yeah. I mean,
Zemir White?
Yeah. Is he playing?
Zemir? Yeah.
I mean, is he the starter? Is Josh Jacobs
going to play? I would imagine with Jacobs,
the month long game time decision
is still going and he is still not
practicing
I'm going to go with Zemir White
Adams was a monster last week with 21 targets
so you can go ahead and play him it's just
it's just not a game I think is going to
be very exciting 37 point over
under we talked
a lot about Javante earlier in the week when
we were looking at
players that kind of dutted out this year and may not have the best long-term future you know
courtland sutton finally came back to from practice but he's not playing with russ russ is the one that
had the kind of laser vision on him in the end zone jared stidham's going to get the opportunity
to try to earn a starter position for next year so So I would play the kind of core players you've been playing in this matchup
and probably move on.
That's Adams and White.
I was going to say the question then is,
Cortland Sutton had been a core player.
Does the change – it looks like he's progressing through
Kakashi protocol.
I expect him to be there.
If he's active, would you play Cortland Sutton,
or does the russell wilson
change say let's bench him i mean i i was never that excited about sutton in the lineup i was
always hopeful for that touchdown but i would not play him okay stidham was 24 32 224 yards
and a touchdown against the chargers it's not the worst thing I've ever seen.
Okay.
I'm saying if you're playing Davis.
Cortland Sutton or Gabe Davis?
Yeah.
Gabe Davis.
Puka Nakua, who will get missed?
No, no.
No, Sutton.
I don't like the Puka situation.
What is it, four for 29?
Yep.
He'll probably go for 200.
Philly at 11-5, take it on the 5-11 Giants.
DK Sportsbook line, Philly minus 5.5.
The overrunner is 42.
How many losses in a row for the Eagles?
I know they've lost four of five, isn't it?
I think they won two weeks ago, I believe.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, but four of five.
Yeah, the Giants.
They were 10-1, Now they're 11-5.
And all right.
Phillies fighting for that number two seed.
They need the Cowboys to lose to go ahead and win the division.
Giants are playing spoiler.
It is the divisional game,
and they've had some competitive matchups recently.
I'm not sure that's an almost upset to me,
but I'd be a little bit on the, yep.
Oh, all right.
Andy's almost upset of the week.
It's a five and a half point line.
The game's in New York.
I mean, a chance to keep the Eagles out of the division.
It's like the Giants lost by eight last time on the road.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jalen Hurts, weeks one through eight, 261 passing yards a game.
From week nine on, 207 passing yards per game.
He still gets the tush push at the goal line, though,
so his fantasy finishes have been pretty good.
Top ten the last three weeks. I wonder if that is something though that is uh and i i you're
100 right he scores a billion touchdowns on the ground he has 15 of them but 23 touchdowns on the
year through the year i mean jordan love is four more passing touchdowns than jalen hurts has at
this stage of of the season so i, yes, that's true, passing.
But, I mean, 15 rushing.
I think you've got to look at it in totality.
38 total touchdowns from Jalen Hurts.
That's a great number.
Yeah, 15 rushing touchdowns from a running back,
you would be losing your mind.
Of course.
Yeah, I was just making the point in the passing game,
if you're throwing for 200 a game.
Like last year we came out and we were like, hey, they should be able to start throwing the ball more
and A.J. Brown is going to raise the ceiling, and it happened.
But to see it dip back down at the back half of the year
and not be as successful and have Devontae Smith banged up
and A.J. Brown, you know, there was a little bit of rumbling
about locker room problems.
Yeah, I mean, A.J. Brown, to start the season from weeks three through nine,
I mean, that is a long stretch.
That's a stretch of seven games in a row where his worst fantasy finish on the week
was the wide receiver 13.
He was a wide receiver one every single week.
He hasn't been in the top 13 since that time in week 10.
He's actually been a pretty big disappointment for fantasy.
I mean, he's still getting enough targets.
You're not going to bench him, but that's the story to me for the Eagles
is A.J. Brown has disappeared, and whether that's schematically
or obviously he's pitching a fit and causing issues in the locker room,
maybe he thinks he's not getting enough targets,
but it's been really bad for him.
I mean, since that bye week, the time you mentioned,
still on pace for 160 targets in that span,
but it would be for 92 for 1,002.
That's just a guy.
Yeah, and no finishes inside the top 12.
With 160 target pace, you should be...
That's on A.J. Brown.
I mean, you're getting that many targets.
Don't tell him that.
I would never.
I would never.
He would just squish me into a jelly.
Yeah, I mean, just 200 yards to go around, though, right now
in this passing offense.
And, you know, Dallas got it. Was your to go around, though, right now in this passing offense.
And, you know, Dallas got it.
Was your start of the week yesterday, Jason?
Yeah, he's very involved, and I think Devontae Smith, his injury is kind of what leads me to believe that,
you know, as I said yesterday, he's higher in targets per route run than davante smith and even more than aj brown
it's pushing into a jelly huh just a little yeah look you play saquon i like darius slayton with
tyrod taylor i like him against a passing defense that is giving up potentially on pace for the six
most passing attempts against them of all time, the Philadelphia secondary.
And this was a very competitive game last time out.
Tyrod almost brought them back.
So do you guys agree?
Do you like Slayton?
Yeah, I think he's worth the dart throw. We talked about him yesterday, the Gabe Davis arc type of player.
Would you go with him or Slayton?
And I lean Slayton because of the matchup.
Yeah, it's exactly what you called last week.
I see it again this week.
It was a perfect call against the Rams who give up the big plays.
The Eagles do too.
So Darius Slayton is the waiver wire guy you want if you are the underdog.
Where are you with DeAndre Swift this week?
Comfy?
I mean, yeah, I'm starting him.
Yeah, for sure.
The Giants get beat on the ground.
They're still favored even though they're on the road,
and there's an almost upset call here.
It's a matchup you would play Swift.
Five rushing touchdowns on the season for DeAndre Swift.
What was it, 15 for Jalen Hurts?
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how much Hurts pays to go down on the one.
There's at least five, I believe,
DeAndre Swift going down on the one
which the touchdowns then went to
Jalen Hurts. What if it's one of those things
you know how like if you try to take
a shopping cart out of a
Oh yeah, you cross that yellow line.
You cross the line in a parking lot and it shuts
them down. They've got like an ankle
monitor on him that when it gets to the one yard line just zaps his legs.
Straight down.
Awesome.
Has there ever been a larger lie in the entire world?
No, no, no.
I've tried to cross that line.
They shut them down, man.
What?
Oh, 100%.
They locked the wheels.
Yeah.
Wheels go break.
Yeah, there's something built into the-
No.
Oh, yeah.
No.
I've done it.
I tested that.
How many of these have you stolen, Mike?
None. Yeah, because you can't. Unless you put it in a truck. They locked the wheels, man. uh no yeah oh yeah yeah man i've done it i tested how many of these have you stolen mike none yeah
because you can't it lots of putting in a truck they lock the wheels man so they put they they
spend that amount of money it's not that much money what what is doing it is a magnet yeah
it's like a it's a very like it's not a high tech situation they just like put something in the
ground and then they paint a stripe over it and And then if you go past that, what happens if you pick the card up?
I don't know.
Let's find out.
I feel like for some reason now Borland should know this.
Do you know any about anything about this?
No, I've definitely experienced it, but I don't know how it works.
And I don't know what happens if you pick it up.
Yeah.
Lock them wheels.
Anyways, Swift's wheels get locked on the one.
Oh, you thought it was just like, well, they're just telling the like, yes homeless population they're just oh if you take it past his lines they're gonna do it
anyway but they can't yeah exactly you know what that reminds me of the painted how many shopping
cars do people in this office have that aren't speed bumps have you guys been oh no like that
but they're fake they just paint basically a big yellow area where it's like a speed bump.
Do they shade it?
Sometimes they put the stripes on it.
Sometimes they don't.
But you slow down every time.
And then you roll over and you're like, wait, there's no bump.
Oh, that's funny.
See, that's what I thought the sign was.
Electronic and magnetic systems are used for this purpose.
So there is a thin wire which locks the wheel clamp as the cart passes over it.
It's a little wire cutter.
You're fine.
Again, what if you pick it up?
That leads me to believe that you could pick it up.
But those are heavy.
Shopping carts?
For one person to just grab.
But it's only the back wheels.
So you just need to raise the back.
Now what are we doing here?
We're ruining.
Shopping carts are going to go wild now.
Yeah.
We've let the people know, go get them, people.
Go get your shopping carts.
If the way around your security system is just to slightly raise it for, I don't know,
three to five inches of movement, this is not good.
It's no different than the-
You thought it was all fake, Mike.
Yeah.
It's no different than the little alarm when you walk in that checks the sensor.
You just lift it over to that when you're leaving out the door.
It's the same exact principle.
That's fair, but they will see you.
Part of being a good thief is they don't see it happen.
If you're running, put the stuff over your head.
Catch me, coppers!
Alarm didn't go off.
It's free.
It's mine.
Yeah, get the UTK, the ultimate theft kit.
All right, Darren Waller.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, you can't have a tremendous amount of confidence,
but six, five, and six and six targets i mean five for 50
you only show up as the tight end 16 but five for 51 is like it could go way worse yeah i think he's
a a fine middling guy that if he gets touched on you're gonna be happy and i i do think he's
got a baseline that's six fantasy points brooks have you stolen any shopping carts i have not in my day
okay about to say if you enjoyed that little uh back and forth there about shopping carts
make sure you check out the spitballers comedy podcast no we talk about shopping carts exclusively
it's a shopping cart podcast i i need to see this happen it's this week mike you're gonna go try it
well i just i have look there's there's multiple people on this set telling me it's true.
I don't believe you.
It's not every parking lot.
No, no, no.
It's got to have the-
Walmart, definitely.
Yeah, I mean, you can tell because you look at the carts and the back wheels have the
little thing on them.
The magnet locks.
Yeah, the magnet locks, as we call them.
Oh, man.
I'm looking into this.
Mike thought it was a lie all these years.
Yeah.
All right.
Quick break.
Back with some more match-ups.
Look, you know when you're driving on the freeway, and they're like, speeds monitored
by aircraft.
Yeah, that's nonsense.
No, they aren't.
That's nonsense.
No, they are not.
Where does that come from?
So I believe that they do do that, but they've got to do it once.
You know what I mean?
Like, they've got to take a plane, snap it, you know, see that they're speeding, snap
the license plate, and then they're like, we did it.
Here's what's crazy.
We can put the sign up.
We monitor by aircraft.
You know how they do the cameras on the freeways sometimes?
Yeah.
Certain jurisdictions allow that, and then they give you tickets off of it.
If the goal is just to have people not speed, I don't know how much that camera system costs,
but I know it's hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars to implement those
on freeways all over wherever you're living.
Right.
If you just put a non-functioning police vehicle with lights on where every one of those cameras was
ain't nobody speeding there yeah that's true you just think somebody's pulled over and you're oh
gosh i gotta slow down i've always heard the best traffic safety device is a rear view mirror with
police officer in it yeah that's for sure can they build those into the mirrors? Yeah. It's like a little sticker you put on for your teenagers.
Oh, that's nice.
This cop's been following me everywhere.
He won't lay off.
Normally, I'd apologize for these side hustles here on the show,
but it's week 18.
All right.
It's week 18.
And, again, you can visit our Shopping Cart podcast that we resume. It's hard to. And again, you can visit our shopping cart podcast that we resume.
It's hard to go back to football.
Seattle, 8-8.
The Cardinals, 4-12.
DraftKings Sportsbook line, Seattle minus 3.
The over-under is 48.
I said a prayer this week that the Cardinals would lose this ball game.
For goodness sakes.
Seattle has something to play for.
I think that Seattle's a really good
chance of being in the playoffs. I mean, if they beat
Arizona and the Bears beat
the Packers, Seattle's in.
And Al's sad. I believe Geno
Smith, what is it, like a million,
two million dollars? It's
a huge bonus if the
Seahawks make the playoffs. So, you know, he's
going to be fighting. Not that he wouldn't be trying
to play his best anyways, but super important.
He's going to try to win now.
Yeah, I think the Cardinals win this game.
No!
Yeah, I have a really bad feeling.
It's just the most Cardinals thing to do is continue ruining your future.
The Jets can beat New England.
Or, sorry, New England can beat the Jets.
They probably will.
So, Arizona will jump them.
You lose this game, you get Marvin Harrison.
Let me just...
You lose this game, Marvin Harrison is a cardinal.
Yeah, but if you win, you feel good for a couple minutes.
You do a bunch of high thoughts.
Arizona, lay down.
Lay down.
Everybody lay down.
Like on the field.
Yes.
All right. Seattle beat them field. Yes. All right.
Seattle beat them in week seven.
Fantasy-wise.
Cardinals were good last week.
James Conner's going to be good again.
It's a fun game for fantasy.
Seattle just gave up, I think, 600,000 yards to Jalen Warren and Najee Harris last week,
and now they face a significantly better running back than James Conner.
Yeah, I mean, this really is a great game for fantasy.
If you want players where you know they're motivated, both sides of the ball,
the Cardinals are playing to prove they are winners. They are playing to upset the divisional
opponent. The Seahawks are playing to get in the playoffs. So both of these defenses have not been
as good as either hoped, even after some acquisitions for the Seahawks, and both offenses are actually clicking now.
With Geno back, he's looking good.
I want pieces all across this.
Kyler's in, Connor's in, McBride is in.
What are you doing with the Seahawks' wide receivers?
I think that's the conundrum.
Is JSN trustable in Week 18?
Yeah, I mean, it's hard hard he had one catch for 12 yards
and a touchdown tyler lockett had one catch last week so um trustable against arizona probably
yeah i think probably if you're in a position where you have to i'm okay with it yeah the
arizona cardinals defense you know the p, the Pittsburgh Steelers defense that they played against last week,
sometimes they don't show up and sometimes they're really good.
The Cardinals can't show up.
They don't have the personnel to, like, really lock someone down.
So I think I'm fine with all three Seattle Seahawks wide receivers
in this matchup.
All right, Trey McBride?
Yep.
Do you play Trey McBride?
Yes, you do.
Greg Dortch?
A little sneaky 7 for 82 last week.
Cardinals at home.
Yeah, I think that he could be.
I don't know if I have the courage for a championship run,
but let's see, over the past six games.
Jason, you're right.
That Arizona's going to win?
Yeah.
Cardinals are at home.
Past six games, four of them, Greg Dortch has been a double-digit player.
Double-digit fantasy points.
Now, two of them were complete duds against Pittsburgh and San Francisco.
So you'd get Dortched in this one?
Dortch is, if you are struggling, then Dortch is probably on your waiver wire
and has an upside at least.
Yeah, maybe.
I'm not excited to play the Dortch.
I'm not saying I'm excited to do it, but just like there's some cardinals.
If you're excited, it's like I'm playing the Dortch.
If you're not excited, it's like I'm not going to play Greg.
That's how you have to do that.
Greg is, who wants to play Greg? No one wants to play Greg. That's how you have to do that. All right. Greg is, who wants to play Greg?
No one wants to play Greg.
What about Gregory?
Even worse.
Oh, no.
I'm sorry, Greg.
Sorry, Greg.
But you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, they don't want to be called Gregory.
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Kansas City, 10 and 6.
The Chargers are 5 and 11. L.
L.
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Is 3 and a half point.
Are 3 and a half point favorites.
Over under 35.
You know, Kansas City is not playing their players.
Clyde Edwards.
Clyde Edwards.
A layer, I think, is probably going to be a pretty good play.
I mean, the.
The Chargers have packed it in.
They've left the NFL in this season.
And so Clyde Edwards-Alaire I think will get run in this game.
My reaction to that is the same as yours to the Dortch.
I'm not excited about a bunch of backups and Clyde.
Clyde can't overcome much.
I think the Chargers are favored. They're going to win overcome much. I think the Chargers are favored. They're
going to win the game. I've got my, I picked the Chargers to win. So I don't know if Clyde's going
to be great or not. Yeah. I mean, obviously most of the starters aren't going to be playing. It's
going to be much more difficult to run with Blaine Gabbert there than with Patrick Mahomes there. But
I do think Clyde could end up in a game like this with 20 opportunities. He could end up being the centerpiece.
It could be a really run-first offense.
I mean, honestly, he could end up looking how Austin Eckler has looked
for a lot of the last few weeks, which is 17-plus opportunities
and doing not much with him.
No, I would play Eckler over Pacheco because it's not just the offensive.
Pacheco, yeah.
But what about Clyde? Clyde. It's not just the offensive stars that will be sitting.
It's kind of like when you were talking about going up against the Rams,
they won't have Donald.
I would imagine Chris Jones is not going to play in this game,
so it should be easier sledding.
It's a stupid, gross game.
It really is, yeah.
All right.
The Rams are 9-7.
The 49ers are 12-4.
The Carson-Wentz-Sam Darnold battle we all needed.
The number two and number three pick of years ago, 2017 and 2018.
The Rams are not playing their starters,
minus Puka trying to accomplish a rookie record.
So four for 29 is what he needs.
Otherwise, you're going to see Ronnie Rivers to Marcus Robinson,
two to Atwell.
Oh, man.
No.
No.
No, thank you.
San Francisco's favored.
They're not playing their starters.
Jordan Mason's going to get a ton of work.
Sam Darnold is better than Carson Wentz.
Yeah, I was going to say.
Probably why they're favored.
Sam Darnold leading this off Carson Wentz. Yeah, that's, I was going to say probably why they're favored. Sam Darnold leading
this off, because it's still the
same scheme. You don't, you won't have the positional
players, but you're going to have
you know, this San Francisco team that works with
every single quarterback
that they put in the system, where
McVay is truly
an offensive genius, but can Carson
Wentz with a
lower cast of characters put up a fight
against the 49ers?
And I would say no.
Yeah, a dumb game.
Dumb, dumb game.
Yeah, you played Jordan Mason.
You hopefully don't need to play Puka.
Would you play Puka or Demarcus Robinson?
Demarcus Robinson.
Yeah, you got to take the snaps.
Which is, I mean, the perfect example of week 18.
Dallas is 11-5, taking on the 4-12 Commanders.
Ron Rivera's last game as a Commander's head coach, most likely.
Dallas, 13-point road favorites.
The over-under is 47.
It means a ton to Dallas.
They win the NFC East with a victory here. So, you know, Dak and CD and cooks and, um, Ferguson and Pollard, like you just line them up, put them out there on the field.
It's one of the offenses you can have confidence in this week.
Yep.
And then there's another team.
Yeah.
The, the Washington commanders are going to be out there throwing a ton,
trying to avoid –
Oh, getting sacked so much.
Sam Howell will be looking at the stars.
And there is – I mean, he'll be on his back this entire game.
The Cowboys are going to sack him so much.
So, obviously, great DST.
If you've got the Dallas Cowboys, they're going to have a couple turnovers
and six sacks.
And J.P. Finley, who reports for the commanders, says that there's a vibe that the veterans in Washington are sitting this week.
I get a vibe.
Oh, for real?
Yeah, like several of the veterans that they probably just don't want to.
Like Terry McLaurin?
I don't know about that.
Maybe.
I mean, he's one of their leaders and a veteran.
If there's a vibe that veterans are sitting, I can't imagine it would not include Terry.
Yeah, it just depends if Sam Hale's crying,
like, please don't take him from me.
Oh, Sam Hale doesn't even throw it to Terry.
Oh, that's true.
Every time he runs into him, he's like, wait, who are you?
Look, Washington doesn't want to win this game.
If they lose it, they secure the number two pick.
So it's a win-win or a lose-lose, right?
However you want to look at it.
Dallas gets what they want.
Washington gets what they want.
And I don't know.
Ron Verma asks his players to run backwards in this one,
more than normal.
Yeah, you'll probably have Tony Pollard having an absolutely outstanding game.
You expect the Dallas Cowboys to walk over the commanders,
and you can walk in the running game yeah on them
no problem they are like the video of the when they give that old guy the handoff yeah I mean
there was a real Rico Dowdle might have a game in this one he yes that's Tony Pollard I agree he
should be good but I think there's a chance that Rico Dowdle cleans up in the second half.
Sure.
Yeah, I would be fine playing Rico Dowdle.
And here we are.
We get to talk about the final game of the week,
the final game of the year, and a game that matters.
It's a good one.
Buffalo at 10-6, Miami at 11-5,
the DraftKings Sportsbook line, Buffalo on the road, minus 2.5.
Over-under is 48 points.
It's been bet down a little from the 50.5 point over-under,
but this is a playoff game.
If Buffalo loses this game, they are eliminated.
If they win this game, I was thinking about this,
like for this up-and-down season for Buffalo
and everything that it's been, this confusion about the offense,
the firing of their offensive coordinator,
the is-it-over for Stephon Diggs, is is even sean mcdermott could he be out you know there's talk of harbaugh and are the buffalo bills in
contention for that look if they win this ball game they're the number two amc team after all
of that i just thought that that was kind of shocking like you it's amazing when you're able
to look back on the season if they win this ball game which they are favored to do they have finished number two yeah and and the the coordinator
change really made a big difference I mean this was a team that was losing a lot of their games
they've been on fire lately and they've really changed their scheme they are now all of a sudden
they run first team even though they've got Joshosh allen they are pounding the rock and doing it
with with great success now including allen on the goal line i mean that's how he got his two
touchdowns last week yeah for sure he's he's kind of turning into a jalen hurts a little bit they're
doing the tush push it's like a slightly different one where they've got one guy behind him have you
seen the origination of the tush push have No. Have you seen this? So it's very interesting because there's some NFL Films clips on the sidelines of one of the,
I think it was one of the backup tight ends, maybe on Indianapolis,
just talking about, like years ago, saying, you know what would be good is if, like,
you just put a big guy in there and had, like, one guy push him or, like, two guys push him.
And then they go to kind of the origination of when it happened,
which was Nick Sirianni.
Really?
Who was the offensive specialist coordinator for Indianapolis,
and he subbed out, I believe, Matt Ryan or Carson Wentz
and put in Jacoby Brissett.
And then one guy helped push Jacoby Brissett.
Jacoby was elite at the one-hatch sneak.
And then that evolved from there.
But Sirianni, who's obviously the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles,
was involved in the Jacoby Brissett.
And it shows him on the sideline literally jumping into another coach's arms
with glee over how it worked.
Oh, that's awesome.
And so, yeah, he enjoys it.
But Buffalo, Miami.
Right now, Seth Walder put this out there.
According to ESPN Analytics, the most likely NFC title game is the Cowboys 49ers
with a 44% chance to occur.
And the most likely AFC title game right now is Bill's Ravens.
That's the highest probability.
Okay.
And, you know, this one should be fun.
Now, Diggs was great against them a long, long time ago.
Yeah, over the course of the season now, when you adjust for schedule,
the Dolphins have been great against the run.
They're number two in the league.
They've really turned it on.
The Buffalo Bills have been winning running the ball,
but they might need to throw it here.
What do you do with Diggs?
I mean, this is an important game with a high over-under.
One more.
Let's go with the default phrase.
Ready?
You got to play digs.
Is that what we've been saying?
You don't sit digs.
Here's the deal.
If you're playing week 18 and you've got digs,
I think you've already made your decision that you've been benching him.
Because I think if you've been playing him,
you probably didn't get to your game.
I mean, here's his – not fantasy finishes.
Here's his fantasy points for the last month.
4.4, 6.8, 5.4, 5.1.
That's after their bye week.
I mean –
You Dorchen?
You're not Dorchen.
No, you're not Dorchen.
You're not Dorchen.
But how about Jordan Addison against Detroit?
Yeah, I like that matchup.
I would go Jordan Addison.
Yeah, I don't mind that.
Drake London against the Saints.
No, I'll go Diggs.
Yeah.
Let's go Brandon Cooks against the Commanders.
I'll go Diggs.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, on the other side, Tyreek Hill had some stuff going on.
Saw him in a walking boot, too.
He had a house fire.
Yeah, he was outside that house in a walking boot, but he will –
I mean, look, they're playing for something here.
They need him desperately in this game.
They are almost certainly going to be without Jalen Waddell.
He didn't practice on
Thursday. He had a high ankle sprain.
Already missed last week. I can't
fathom he plays.
Nothing this week would shock me more than Jalen
Waddell making it out there. So Tyreek
Hill is going to be extremely important.
You guys expect Mostert to be back out there?
And if so, would you play him in HN?
I think he'll be out there.
I will play either and both if they are there.
Either and both.
Durham Smythe.
Hey, that was a good call last week.
Smythe week.
Three for 54.
Not bad.
Dalton Kincaid last week got back out and produced four for 87.
Some big plays.
I'd be very curious what the passing offense looks like for
buffalo in 2024 yeah don kincaid was in on 55 of the snaps they also missed him on another
bomb who do you have who do you have winning this game buffalo
easy i'm to say Buffalo by 12 points.
Wow.
I think they smoke them.
So I think Miami wins this game.
And obviously, Buffalo already smoked them earlier, 48-20,
when they played last time in week four.
To me, if you take one piece away from the ensemble, I have not seen.
You're talking about Jalen Waddell?
Yeah, I'm talking about Jalen Waddell and maybe Mostert.
You take a piece or two away from this Dolphins team, I've never been proven.
They've never stepped up to the plate.
Look at their game log of how many good
teams has Miami beaten. Yeah, the Dallas game was
their first or second time so they just got smashed by
Baltimore they beat the Cowboys by two points we beat the Jets they lost to the Titans I mean like
a good team that they a really good win yeah on their record at like with all the information now
that we know is Dallas they beat Dallas by two well and it's funny because this Buffalo team is the kind of game they lose,
the one that they really need to win.
That's kind of been the story for them too.
So it'll be fun.
This is a night game, right?
I mean, Sunday night football.
Yep, it's the final one.
A couple updates here.
Trevor Lawrence, questionable.
So he's moving forward.
I saw another report on Christian Kirk, how great he looks,
recovering from the core muscle injury.
And, well, here we go. Fantasy face-off. Forward, I saw another report on Christian Kirk, how great he looks, recovering from the core muscle injury.
And, well, here we go.
Fantasy Face-Off.
Fantasy Face-Off, presented by DraftKings.
Now, how much of your brain do you use?
What is the scientific amount?
You use your whole brain.
I believe that is true. Stop it, Mike.
Stop it.
What's the amount that gets-
You mean like the sci-fi, you only use 10% of your brain?
Thank you.
Okay, whatever it is.
All of my brain, obviously, has been so committed to winning the League of Records, which of
course it accomplished because my brain, when you attach it to a task.
Right.
But it may have come at the expense of something in my life.
Right.
Yes.
And I did lose.
I did lose again.
You did get the quattro.
Got the quattro, which means we end the year with Jason with 10 first place finishes.
Thank you.
That's not where you want to be. You don't want to be at the top? Jason with 10 first place finishes. Thank you. That's not where you want to be.
And Mike had nine second place finishes.
That's where the magic is.
And I had eight third place finishes.
You don't want to be there.
I had nine times I was not spinning.
Mike, you're right.
First the worst, second the best.
Yeah.
I forgot the old adage.
What about third?
The turd.
I'm a turd.
Yeah. Yeah, My trophy says it
Alright, shall we spin this stupid wheel
And see how bad this gets?
Let's go
Wheel
Of
Shame
Yeah, go ahead.
Spin that wheel.
Spin the stupid wheel for my stupid four in a row.
We got...
You know, it was great.
Mike had lost three in a row, and it felt real nice and balanced.
Three for a three-day.
Right, bros.
Loser glasses.
Loser glasses.
Now, you're not allowed to look at the front of the glasses to see what they say.
You just got to put on those glasses.
Now, wait.
I got a pinwheel hat those now wait i got a
pinwheel hat yep you got a nice little stupid hat and you got these glasses and you're not gonna
does he have a lolly am i gonna be able to see my roster no well the rules are you can take the
glasses you can move the glasses off just a little bit to see your your roster but otherwise oh yeah
i said you can't look at the front what What can you, what can you see right now? Absolutely nothing. You get your microphone. There you go. Why
do I need my microphone? Well, because we do a podcast. Okay. I can see nothing. Okay,
good. So let's kick it off here. No, I can't read my roster. When it comes time, I'll let
you, uh, you want me to start Jay? Yeah, you start. All right. My quarterback is going to be.
It's a pie in the face.
It's a pie in the face.
Oh, no.
It's a pie in the face.
You can take the glasses off now so you can see.
Oh, man, that was good.
Did we go, is that shaving cream or is that whipped cream?
I hope it's whipped cream.
It's whipped cream.
It's delicious.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Well, it's just.
Oh, you're looking good, Andy.
You're looking really good.
The Quattro got you.
I don't know if I've ever had a pie in the face and it exceeds expectations
startling?
startling, a little
in the nostrils
thank you for the eye protection
you're welcome
we look out for our good buddies
congratulations
is he supposed to still wear the glasses?
no, he can't see with the glasses
he's got the opposite glasses now
like the uh the the
suntan it kind of looks like a clown we're playing we're playing this can i get a rag or something
what nope just for the nostrils youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers all right my my quarterback
wait we're playing again this week right but we're playing for money you guys want to make a bet
sure sure man okay uh I've got Justin Fields against
the Green Bay Packers at $7,200
as my quarterback. I spent
down on the crazy man Nick Mullins
at $5,100.
Who was yours, Mike? Fields.
Nick Mullins is going against
the Detroit Lions.
Good team to pass on.
That makes sense. I went Dak.
Okay. You went Dak Seedy. Of course you did. Of course you did. No, it makes sense. I went Dak. Okay.
You went Dak Seedy.
Of course you did.
Of course you did.
Dak, 8,000.
One more time?
Yeah.
One more time, sweetness?
Dak and Seedy?
I don't blame you there. That's fun.
It's delicious.
All right.
Thank you for the treat.
You're welcome.
Here we go.
Jordan Mason against the Rams.
Sure.
4,600.
Pierre Strong Jr. against the Cincinnati Bengals for 4,000.
Someone's going to have a lot of good wide receivers there.
My running backs are Tony Pollard at 6,500 against the Washington Manders.
That's no fun.
And James Conner, 6,100 against Seattle.
Rashad White, 7,600
at Carolina.
They're playing for a lot.
James Conner, 6,100
against Arizona.
My wide receivers, I got Amon Ross
St. Brown against the Minnesota Vikings
at 8,600.
I'm going for it. I got Jamar Chase at chase at 7300 he said he's going to play if you're going to be on the field you better do something and then jordan addison against the detroit lions of 5300
um i went with almond raw saint brown as well uh 8700 and I have stacked my quarterback with a guy named Justin Jefferson at 8,500.
And then I'm going with the final hoorah of the old man.
Oh, what?
I've got Adam Thielen at 6,000.
Thank you, Jason, for believing in me.
You're welcome.
I went with CeeDee Lamb, as you expected.
9,300 for CeeDee.
He might have another 17 receptions or something against Washington.
I went with, bargain for the next two guys, Christian Kirk at 3,000.
Christian Kirk, 3,000.
He's going to play, and he's going to be great.
Darius Slayton at 4,000 for my other wide receiver.
All right, now we'll close it out.
I have James Conner at my flex, so we have canceled him out at 6,100.
Got my guy, Juwan Johnson, taking on the Atlanta Falcons at just 3,600.
And I had this weird gap of money where I couldn't really improve a player.
So I got the Raiders, guys, at 3,300 going against the Denver Broncos.
All right.
I ran out of money. So my final
guys are, uh, Michael mayor, uh, tight end. Uh, I hope so. Uh, I'll pivot if he's not,
but he's, uh, going up against, I just looked who's playing against Vance Joseph defense
and not, yeah, that's fair. I have Christian Kirk, uh, at 3000. I hope he's playing against Vance Joseph defense and not put him in. Yeah, that's fair. I have Christian Kirk at 3,000.
I hope he's playing.
And the Vikings defense
against Detroit. You know,
Mayer hasn't played in two weeks.
Well, I think he's going to play this week. Okay.
Juwan Johnson is my tight end.
Oh, you dog.
Pierre Strong Jr. is my flex.
And a little defense
known as the Dallas Cowboys.
Wow.
At 4,100 against Washington.
We do have an update here from Twitter.
Michael Mayer looking like an injury scratch again for Sunday.
I will look for a pivot.
Week 18, baby.
Week 18.
All right.
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You have ruined your pop filter, Andy.
Ruined, made more delicious,
I don't know. Okay, well, that's TBD.
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