Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 2 Studs & Duds + Emotional Reactions, Injuries Suck - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/16
Episode Date: September 16, 2024Studs, Duds, and injuries recap from Week 2 on today’s fantasy football podcast! Andy, Mike, and Jason react to another low scoring weekend of football. Find out which Week 2 performances were the m...ost eye-catching and worrisome! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for September 16th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (02:45) - Monday Punday (10:00) - Ready to Roll (18:05) - NFL News (30:20) - Week 2 Studs (30:20) - QB Studs (40:35) - WR Studs (45:55) - TE Studs (50:20) - Week 1 Duds (50:25) - QB Duds (59:35) - RB Duds (01:04:20) - WR Duds (01:09:25) - TE Duds Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Ready to Roll presented by Nissan. Visit https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/crossovers-suvs/pathfinder/rock-creek-edition.html News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Lots of emotion in the building most of it directed directly at isaiah pacheco's situation too soon too soon what do you think we
weren't going to talk about i was hoping i was hoping we got through this show and uh i just
ignored it yeah i'm not ready to i'm in denial right now really yeah that's what stage is that uh yeah i mean it's um swish oh dang
no i mean it uh is part of the news today we got a lot of i mean injuries have been a storyline
in fantasy football we got reactions to the weekend studs and duds and a whole lot more
how are you doing today mike are you somewhat rejuvenated thanks to Marvin Harrison?
My pants will never recover from what just happened.
Put it that way.
I'm never going back to the pants store.
They flew off?
They did not fly off, man.
They evaporated.
Dude, the beginning of that game, Marvin Harrison just going
full nuclear in the first half.
Multiple touchdowns, 130 yards.
Dominant,
unbelievable hands,
great speed. Should have had four touchdowns.
I feel like realistically
should have had four, but yeah, that was fantastic.
Overall, the teams are
eh.
It feels like this weekend did a very good job of reinforcing the messaging on last week's show of don't freak out, don't overreact.
Like those that lost their minds about Marv, all is well in the world.
Those that lost their minds about Isaiah Likely, he came back to Earth. We had those that thought Anthony Richardson was the second coming,
got a harsh reality in Green Bay.
Like there was balance to the force, I guess you could say, in week two.
A bunch of injuries as well.
And we like to react with you each and every Monday morning,
your reactions to the weekend on the most sophisticated segment of the show, Monday Punday.
We'll start with the good, Mike.
Brock Powers.
Pow, pow.
Oh, yeah.
And Devon A. Champ.
Chris Godson.
Chris Godson, yeah.
Malik Yebers.
Oh, how about J.K. Dubbins?
All right, old breeze. Hallelujah. Malik Yebers. Oh, how about J.K. Dubbins? Loretto Brees.
Hallelujah.
And it was nice.
Balance of the Force to see Calvin Ridiculous.
Yes.
Speaking of the Force, marvelous Harrison Jr.
Alvin Camaro?
Alvin Camaro.
It would be more like Alvin Ferrari.
We're saying Camaro is good?
Darnold Schwarzenegger.
And Jackson Smith Win, Jigba.
I like that.
But also.
There was bad.
Isaiah Pacheco.
Ow.
Oh, and how about Colby Barfinson?
The cheese has gone bad.
Christian Dirt.
Oh, I know this guy.
Jamar Waste.
Oh, you are taking that personally.
Isaiah Rarely.
Yeah.
How about Stank Dell?
Or Jared Goffel.
And Brandon Ayuk.
Oh, Sam La Poopy Pants.
Hey, Amari Pooper.
Oh, all right.
And Patrick Mahomless.
Oh, no.
Patrick Mahomless.
Oh, all right. And Patrick Mahomeless. Oh, no. Patrick Pooper. Oh, no.
You know, the emotions were raw.
I mean, there were a lot of injuries.
We didn't touch on them all in the Monday Punday, but, I mean,
I think I saw Cooper quarter cup because he had been, you know,
got limited work.
So you were just saying, you know, order to the force,
some of the great performances came back down to life,
some of the bad performances bounced back.
So how do you cope with double weeks of bad?
Like Amari Cooper.
Amari Cooper, I believe you just tweeted out,
he's eighth in targets right now in the NFL.
Yeah, he has 17 targets.
He's 84th in fantasy points.
Yeah, that's bad.
I mean, he's had two brutal drops on big plays.
One was a touchdown.
One was a big downfield play.
And he's caught five of 17 targets.
He looks checked out.
He does seem Amari Cooper as a player has always looked
different to me like it doesn't it's not like Malik neighbors it's not you're not jumping off
the line like it's always been precision it's been you know he finds spots he's in and out of
breaks well and so it's hard for me to read that too because obviously he put himself
in the position to be wide open for a couple of these big plays
that he brutally dropped.
But I think people are freaking out.
Yeah, I mean, it would be hard to start him.
There are a couple players now where you go, man, can I put, you know,
Michael Pittman, can I put this player in my lineup,
even though they are the target leaders, you're just not sure that that's going to amount to enough
to be a good fantasy play.
If I have a target leader, that's a downfield threat.
I'm like Amari Cooper.
I think, I think that's going to be okay.
I really do.
I think he'll be all right.
Historically, Amari Cooper, and this is really incredible work he's done his entire career
over and over and over and over having good fantasy finishes at the end of the season Historically, Amari Cooper, and this is really incredible work he's done his entire career,
over and over and over and over, having good fantasy finishes at the end of the season, and every single season, being the most hot and cold guy of all time, like half good, half bad.
So I think he's just setting up a really strong finish.
Yeah, and they won the ballgame.
I mean, you know, Deshaun Watson looked markedly better.
He did.
He looked competent, which is not something you could say of Bryce's.
Bryce Young, he's Kyler Murray without any of the skill.
He's just small?
Is that the comp?
Well, it's like we don't, you know,
you get the hype jokes around Kyler Murray all the time
instead of celebrating the fact that he is –
like most NFL athletes are superhumans,
and he's a normal-sized person that does great things.
But Bryce Young is normal-sized and clearly –
Normal.
Normal.
Like it's just depressing.
Bryce Young attempted –
No.
This was next-gen stats.
He attempted only two passes over 10 air yards
despite trailing in every one of his dropbacks in the entire game,
and he did not complete either of those throws.
This is why you start him.
This is why, if you're a Panthers fan, you make sure he starts 17 games this year.
Because he's the path to your next.
He is the path to a good quarterback.
He's your path to what?
I thought you were talking about fantasy players.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I was talking about the Carolina Panthers.
There's one you don't care about.
For you.
Deontay Johnson, that's a player you can go ahead and two bad weeks
probably does a season make.
Yeah.
Depressing.
And I listened to Adam Thielen say that,ielen say that this was not a Bryce Young problem.
But I don't know whose problem it was.
You sure about that?
Yeah.
That's very kind of you, Adam.
You sure about that?
Adam's being nice to his quarterback.
And look, I'm not.
Ask him a couple years from now.
Yeah, he wants to continue taking the paycheck and then moving on.
It's incredible.
It's incredible.
And Jamar Chase, here's another one, two straight weeks.
Maybe that'll be something we talk about on the show tomorrow
and a quick question, like players that have had two ups or two downs.
But Jamar Chase, two down weeks, two under double digits,
out there for 92% of snaps.
Every time the ball's going downfield, I'm going, oh, this is the chase target.
There's always some white guy underneath the ball at that point in time.
Yeah.
Mike Kosicki was just Hoover vacuum for targets this past Sunday.
And targets to Irwin and target to Yoshi boss.
And look, this is, it's really narrative.
But if you watch the game, uh, Jamar chase, uh, watch the game, Jamar Chase lost his cool there at the end of a game
where he got up and he had felt like he was either face-masked
or tackled by his helmet.
The replay did not look anything like that,
at least to me of the couple angles I saw,
but he got up, got the huge penalty that really
screwed over the Bengals but that penalty looked like a man who was just mad he was he was mad at
his team he's big they are they are not giving him the targets that he thinks that he should get
so that one to me feels like a that's going to be the loudest squeaky wheel all week in practice.
And it'd be like, Joe, throw me the ball.
Well, and he did not get the contract he wanted.
Right.
So Jamar Chase has been, you know, Brandon, I think Jamar Chase, those have been tough players for people to put into their lineups.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been starting him.
It's great.
I will say this for the Bengals.
Three of their next four games is the Washington Commanders,
the Carolina Panthers, and the New York Giants.
That's how we get right, baby.
That's an opportunity for sure.
All right, let's talk about some offenses that have been surprisingly incredible.
Welcome to Ready to Roll, presented by Nissan.
We're two weeks into the year, and we've had some drastic changes on offense.
Now, spoiler alert, the Bears will not be discussed in this segment.
Oh, no.
The offensive changes for the Bears have yet to work. I believe they have the lowest yards per play in the NFL below Carolina.
Yeah, part of my excitement of Ryan Grubb and bringing his offense to Seattle
was not just Grubb.
It was the removal of Shane Waldron, who I felt like was not a very good coordinator,
who is now Caleb Williams' coordinator.
And he's going to be the new Arthur Smith of discussions
if something doesn't change.
Now, I watched that game last night, the Houston game,
and I came away saying Caleb Williams couldn't have done a darn thing.
I mean, he was pressured on 27 of 28 dropbacks.
The defensive line was exploding through the offensive line on every play.
I mean, could he have done more?
Maybe.
It's really tough.
Like, this is not college.
When you scramble and chuck it downfield, I believe one tweet said,
there are men down there taking care of their families,
and they're going to intercept the football.
Like, this is not college.
But let's talk about some offensive coordinators that have made changes
that are mind-blowing.
And we have to start with Clint Kubiak in New Orleans.
Baby Cubes!
They're 2-0.
They destroyed Dallas.
They being the New Orleans Saints.
The Dennis Allen-led New Orleans Saints.
My favorite.
I know people might not know.
Sometimes you've got to pop it out and show them.
That's a direct quote from Dennis Allen. People might not know how Sometimes you got to pop it out and show them.
That's a direct quote from Dennis Allen.
People might not know how I- That's a direct quote.
Oh, you didn't see it?
I didn't have time to fire up that video.
He gave a locker room speech and ended it with,
by the way, there were some profanities mixed in.
Sometimes you got to pop it out and show them.
Oh, man.
Okay, Dennis.
Yeah, so I just want people to know,
I am full-blown rooting for the Saints like like
let's remind people why yeah so um at our live show in LA one of my bold predictions was that
they they were gonna on week five Dennis Allen will be fired it's mostly because I can't stand
yeah it's mostly because I can't stand the persona of Dennis Allen,
and I don't think he's a good coach by history,
but holy moly, they're on fire.
And Clint Kubiak coming in has got this offense clicking,
and at the live show I made this announcement
because the chance of the Saints being a great team is zero.
I don't know.
And if they win 10 games, I said, I'm going to shave my head on the show.
So now I am full blown rooting for a 10 win season because what a turn of events.
And also it's just fun to say a turn of events.
No, I said a turn of events.
They have the largest increase of any team in pre-snap motion,
something you're going to see.
What?
Very common in the storylines of three teams that are 2-0
with new offensive coordinators.
Clint Kubiak in New Orleans, Liam Cohen in Tampa Bay,
who there was concern about losing Dave Canales,
and then Ryan Grubb in Seattle, 2-0.
Both of their wins were closer, easier schedule,
but they're getting it done.
Those are the top three teams in terms of increase of pre-snap motion
from last year to this year.
So the new offensive coordinators coming in,
the ones that were pursued, the ones that people wanted,
they came in and they brought pre-snap motion to confuse the defense.
It's not just the pre-snap motion.
It's also the Saints were dead last in play action.
There is this old way of thinking of the run sets up the pass
because the run sets up play action.
No, play action just more often than not, play action works
because if you get the linebackers to just freeze for a half of a second.
Or float one direction.
Because they have to.
Are they handing it off?
I'm not quite sure.
And then in the NFL, that half a second, that's what it takes to get open.
So for the Saints, dead last in play action to number one.
31st in pre-snap motion to number one.
And we spent the off season talking about motion of just how are these people
not figuring it out?
You go look at the top five offenses in the NFL and what is a thread that goes
between all five of them, and it's all five of those used a ton of pre-snap
motion because it gives you more information.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Why are we directly doing this it's like it's like one of the most directly correlative stats and then you see some teams that just are boring and we're not gonna do it
it's like what are you doing we don't need to do it with all three teams tampa seattle and new
orleans there has been with the pre-snap motion and the change in offense an expanded role for a
slot or a motion receiver yes rashid shaheed has been the beneficiary-snap motion and the change in offense an expanded role for a slot or a motion receiver.
Rashid Shahid has been the beneficiary in New Orleans,
leading all wide receivers in yards per route run.
He is faster miles per hour-wise than everybody in the entire National Football League
except for Tyreek Hill in next-gen stats.
And you see it.
They're going to take shots to Shahid every game,
but if for some reason they keep targeting him
and using him in the ways that they do right now,
it's going to be more than just a deep threat.
Jason, start of the week, Chris Godwin,
34% of the snaps in the slot last year.
Now 54% in week one, 76% in week two.
Yeah, baby.
Dominant performance for Chris Godwin this past weekend,
and we saw a huge change in
what we got out of Jackson Smith and Jigba
in week two. Week one it looked like
more of the same.
Week two, 16
targets. 16 targets, 12
for 1, 17. That was the
first thing I went and watched this
morning because the NFL decided
to bless us with 10 morning
games and three afternoon games. Unbelievable.
And three afternoon games.
What are we doing here?
What is the plan with that?
We have nine televisions, the NFL.
And we had to have.
Nine should be enough.
So that game wasn't on.
And we just keep seeing the updates of what's going on with JSN.
The target's out of control.
So I went and I watched him.
And this was a very intentional effort to get JSN the ball.
There was quite a few, you know, real short.
They're getting him in motion, creating mismatches,
getting the short stuff.
But then they also went down the field to him.
This was third highest error yards of any wide receiver this week.
So it's – I don't know what the true answer is yet for JSN,
but for us to get to week two and have this event happen,
a possible year-shifting event for JSN is very exciting.
Certainly is, and it's the first time we've really –
I mean, he's currently a top-ten receiver on the week, which is special.
They won 23-20 in New England.
Miami, Detroit, and the Giants
the next three on the schedule for them.
We'll see one more tonight. Kellen Moore taking
over in Philly. The Monday Night Football game
we saw Devontae Smith be the
beneficiary of the expanded slot role.
Tonight will be more interesting because there's
no A.J. Brown. We got the news that
he was going to be out with the hamstring injury.
Shout out to Philadelphia. We appreciate
that. Unless you're paying against A.J. Brown, you did not appreciate that.
No, they got the word out early.
But the bulk of fantasy players, we appreciate that.
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It's a bloodbath.
Yeah, I mean, Christian McCaffrey, injured reserve.
Jason said that they set the pick on fire.
I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's close.
I mean, we...
The McCaffrey fantasy draft pick?
Yeah, I mean, I...
Oh, that thing is...
It's not on fire.
It is on fire.
I mean, it's a complete waste for where you drafted it.
Obviously, when Christian McCaffrey comes back,
he's going to be very, very valuable.
But you have...
You had the first pick in the draft,
and you took someone that is not going to play
for the first five weeks,
and it could be far longer.
Yeah, no, that's all true.
I guess I just meant, you know, the 49ers showed their weaknesses yesterday on offense without Christian McCaffrey.
It all looked like, you know, sunshine and rainbows in week one with Jordan Mason filling in.
And then yesterday against Minnesota, you saw some of the necessity of Christian McCaffrey.
So if he gets back, obviously that's going to be a really big discussion
for the fantasy community, what you do, those that have McCaffrey.
Do you try to get something for him?
I saw him hit the trade block in both of our major leagues.
So the thing is, he's on IR, so that means the best case scenario
was three more games. Right.
And then he can come back, except the reporting has been this is probably more like a six-week staycation on the IR for Christian McCaffrey.
You think he's having a good time?
Which is, okay, let's go six weeks, a ramp-up period.
I can't imagine that despite, if anyone could do it
it's Christian McCaffrey, but the team
is trying to win a Super Bowl.
I can't imagine his first week back is
alright, McCaffrey, you're back out there to 25
opportunities this week. So now
you have, that's seven, and you're
going to play him, but that's seven weeks
if things go well.
So it's just, it's an extremely
difficult situation. The way that I'm. So it's just, it's a extremely difficult situation.
The way that I'm looking at
it, honestly, is I got McCaffrey
in the League of Record. You have him,
Andy, in our Dynasty League.
Dynasty is a much trickier situation
because it's long-term. But if you're in
a redraft, I'm looking
at McCaffrey more of
like he is of
incredible value to the team that has Jordan Mason I that's
how I'm looking at instead of I'm trying to get Jordan Mason because that's now that that window
is as I think slammed shut unless you're going to really really pay for Jordan Mason even when you
try to pay you might not be able to do it exactly and so I think that i said like a man with experience i i think that i tried
it's more of a valuable thing of i don't necessarily mcafree over to the team that
has mason if you if they have something expendable they can give you or you know i mean obviously
depends on how the rest of your draft went if your team is good if you're winning this is great
hold on to him he's gonna help take you over the top uh if your team is
struggling and you're you're out of running backs and you know then you've got to you've got to make
a move because by the time week you know nine comes around if that's when he's playable if you
know if it goes that long you're you're so close to the fantasy playoffs that that's where i say
it feels like you lit it on fire yeah i and i again i mean it might be it might be three weeks
from now.
You talk about winning a Super Bowl.
If the 49ers are not winning ballgames, it forces the issue more.
Could be.
So I think it's a little bit fluid.
We don't have to make every decision today.
It's just unfortunate that he hit IR.
A.J. Brown ruled out for Monday Night Football with the hamstring.
This was Sunday morning.
More impactful, Evan Ingram.
Hamstring injury in pregame warm-ups was a last-minute inactive.
And what was most difficult,
and this is why we always recommend you have leagues that you run waivers
every day except for Tuesday, but on Sunday,
if you're playing on Sleeper or other platforms,
make sure it goes from running waivers at 9 o'clock
to open free agency just for Sunday.
Because if this news came after, the waivers would have run.
And so there were teams in leagues that you didn't even have the option
to pick up a tight end to play,
or you were stuck with a backup tight end in Atlanta on Monday morning,
whose name I just learned.
So more injury news.
We'll get to it in just a second.
Let's take a quick break.
So, Al, I don't know if you can find us.
Maybe we'll go here.
Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco
Suffered a fractured fibula
Late in the game against the Bengals
MRI to further evaluate
He's going to land on IR
Yeah
That sucks
Jason
My guy is a double hurt for me
Because he's one of my
guys and also he's
in my league of record. Almost like you
would draft the players you believe in.
He was dominating.
The volume
was so incredible for Pacheco.
He was definitely their workhorse. He was their passing
downs, their short yardage. He was everything
I hoped he was until he was injured.
Carson Steele, Samaje Pirine, short yardage. He was everything I hoped he was until he was injured. Carson
Steele,
Samajay Pirine,
eventually Clyde after his
IR stint potentially.
Honestly,
people want us to just tell you who to sign.
I'm not sure you're breaking the bank on any
of those guys. If I had to pick one
to put on my team for free, it'd be Carson
Steele because I think he'll get the majority of the kind of work we care about but
I think Patrick Mahomes I think the passing game I think running through the air I think
Xavier Worthy I think Rashi Rice like that's it's gonna be it's gonna be a committee I would
rather have the Pirine side I mean Carson Steele's a little bit more exciting as an athlete, and you hope that maybe he can develop into something special. P. Ryan won't
develop into something special, but I do think this team now is going to abandon the run,
like for the most part. They're going to throw the ball a ton and run through the air. That'll
be those little P. Ryan dump-offs for, you know, if you're in a PPR, half PPR, I think there'll be those little P Ryan dump offs for, you know, if you're in a PPR half PPR, I think
there'll be a lot of value there.
I mean, Carson Steele is still marked as a fullback, I think.
Yeah.
At the NFL level and looks like it when he runs.
So what a mess.
Cooper Cup left the Cardinals game against against the Cardinals.
Yeah, that would make sense.
He left the game against the Cardinals with a left ankle injury.
Didn't return.
Was in a walking boot.
Absolutely brutal for Matthew Stafford in this game and into the future.
No Nakua.
It's brutal for Kyron.
Teams will know how to play this team.
Kyron was awful in this game,
completely saved by a garbage-time touchdown in it.
Thank goodness for that.
They have no offensive line,
and they have neither of their superstar wide receivers.
Is their season in peril at this point?
It is definitely in peril.
I trust McVay to try to figure it out,
but he couldn't figure it
out yesterday. 2-2 Atwell
came in. We have Tyler Johnson.
We have Demarcus Robinson.
We have Jordan Whittington. We have
Colby Jack slash Colby
Barfinson. Colby Jack squat.
It was double
brutal of
the game script. If you didn't watch
the game and you just see the final number,
it was a blowout immediately for the Arizona Cardinals.
The second half of that game, if Cooper Cup had been healthy,
the nasty, disgusting garbage points that would have flowed.
Guys, they play San Francisco next week.
They play Chicago in Chicago the week after.
Those are two defenses that you might
like the answer might not be to
start any of those wide receivers for a couple of weeks.
Well, keep going. Oh, but then they play Green
Bay. And then they play Las
Vegas, whose defense is
very good. And the problem is going to be
is there a pass rush
from San Francisco? Yeah. How about Chicago?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What about Green Bay?
I mean, they're going to put it on you.
And then Max Crosby after that.
Like, Matthew Stafford, survival is your goal at this point.
Arizona has no pass rush.
They have none.
They are the worst pass rush in the league.
And they destroyed Stafford yesterday because he has no offensive line anymore.
Stafford should go on to IR with, nah, man.
Protection.
He was sacked five times by a team with no pass rush yesterday.
He was in an impossible situation.
Jefferson left the game with a quad contusion.
He is fine, according to what I'm seeing this morning.
Yeah, they came out and said day-to-day,
so if you've got a week, you should be all right for Justin Jefferson.
Also, baby, that play.
Oh, my gosh.
From Darnold?
Oh, my gosh.
Darnold, not the sacrificial baby when you have no one behind you to play.
Maybe that's been the key.
If you have no one behind you, he needed to know.
He's got job security.
Maybe.
This sucked.
Joe Mixon got tackled by a hip drop tackle.
Supposed to be illegal.
No penalty thrown.
Have you guys seen one penalty called?
I haven't.
I've seen so many illegal formation penalties.
Yeah.
Get that out of the game, right?
There have been five brutal hip drops in the first two weeks.
Two of them led to ankle injuries.
Jordan Addison, Joe Mixon now.
He's going to get an MRI.
He tried to come back in the game.
This is so common for ankle injuries.
Normally a player, they sprain their ankle.
They go get it wrapped.
They play on it or try to play on it, the wrap comes off,
swell, swell, swell, swell, swell, and you might miss time.
So we're monitoring Joe Mixon, and guess what?
That's Cam Akers at that point.
So we'll talk about it tomorrow.
We'll have more information on the injury tomorrow on our waiver show.
Amon Ross St. Brown, he left multiple times throughout the game.
He did return.
The initial report from Dan Campbell was positive. So Amon Ross ain't proud. He left multiple times throughout the game. He did return.
The initial report from Dan Campbell was positive.
A contusion and cramping is what they're saying.
That's exceptionally good news.
Dan Campbell's very forthright in injury reports.
He said he's all right.
I don't think it's long-term.
Monitor it through the week. And Amon Ross is tough.
Like all NFL players are tough,
but this is a guy that I feel like he would
play through a broken arm.
He will spend the next seven days in one of those chambers not moving.
He'll do it for seven days.
If the doctor said, if you do this, we'll feed you,
and then you'll be able to play, he would do that.
Taysom Hill left early with a chest injury,
taken to a local hospital for further evaluation. Have you guys heard anything else about Taysom Hill left early with a chest injury, taken to a local hospital for further evaluation.
Have you guys heard anything else about Taysom Hill?
I have not.
We can try and find something.
Tank Bigsby left the game with a shoulder injury, didn't return.
Yeah, that looked bad.
It looked really bad.
I would not be surprised if a report comes out today
that it is a significant injury.
So Taysom did return home last night.
He's scheduled for more imaging tests today.
The team does believe the injury is not overly serious.
So there are some people reporting that the Tank Bigsby injury
could have been a concussion.
We'll monitor that for the week.
Tajay Spears exited with an ankle injury.
Oh, boy.
Tony Pollard was already
one of the better draft
picks. Yeah.
Marshawn Lloyd left with an ankle injury.
Oh my gosh, dude. Was that the injury
he was dealing with already? I thought it was a hamstring.
I thought it was a hamstring. I think there's a new
one, which would be like his
17th injury since they drafted
him this year. Great.
Thankfully, he's not on the Saints.
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This week's Fantasy Stud Muffins.
Wee!
Yeah, I mean, Kyler Murray.
Yeah, baby.
This was...
Perfection.
It really was.
It was an amazing...
He didn't even get to play a whole game.
No, no.
He came out with probably eight or nine minutes left.
A perfect performance from Kyler Murray.
Literally a perfect passer rating.
He's the second player in NFL history with 250
plus passing yards, 50 plus rushing yards
and a perfect passer rating
in a single game.
Which of course, the perfect
passer rating, we all know it's that number
that you cannot possibly forget of.
158.3. Right, right, right.
It's right there for everyone.
It just flows. Yeah, 158.3.
Mike, what does it entail?
What's the definition of the passer rating?
I'm sure that's also as understandable as the number.
It's a rating of the passer.
Ah.
We all know this.
Yes, yes.
But look, it's better to have a perfect rating than not.
Kyler looked amazing, and it was from the jump.
The initial throw to Marvin Harrison in the back of the end
zone was one of the lowest probability touchdowns by next gen stats in the entire NFL this year the
dude was dragged he like Michael Jackson scooted on his toes he was he was already dragging his
toes before he caught the ball Brian Baldinger had a tweet talking about that play and inadvertently
said Fitzgerald yeah in the middle of the breakdown.
Because you see greatness in an Arizona Cardinal uniform.
And his comments after the game, Marvin Harrison, were the fact that
Kyler only had four incompletions and all four were to Marvin Harrison.
Therefore, he can do better.
I will say this.
If you didn't watch the game, there were two different goal line opportunities
Marvin Harrison had where it was so good to see.
Both times, it was easy to recognize Marvin Harrison's left in one-on-one
near the goal line.
And both times, Kyler went right to him just like he should.
Neither worked out.
But I'm telling you, they're going to get that thing down.
And it's just great to know that when you're down there,
if you're going to go one-on-one, we're going to go to him.
Yeah, he is a physical force.
No more commentary about his speed.
He had a 60-yard touchdown where he supermanned into the end zone
and all is well in the world.
And for the Cardinals, it's a great sign.
Like, Kyler is my guy.
You know, I had traded Josh Allen in our Dynasty League to pick up Kyler,
and after one week, it was like, oh, no.
Are we going to be okay?
But this is a big performance, and it shows the potential of the Arizona offense
when they're utilizing everybody.
They scored 41 points and pulled him early.
Detroit and Washington are up next, so should be two more good games.
Yeah, yeah, Detroit and Washington are up next, so should be two more good games. Yeah.
Detroit, Washington. Derek Carr, he just ho-hum, efficiency
master. I believe
this is still true, that every
possession that Derek Carr has
led the team at quarterback
this entire year has led
to points. I believe it's 15 consecutive
drives. How long
does this have to go
on before we believe
what we are
seeing? Derek Carr
plays the Eagles and the Atlanta Falcons next.
That should be
great. That should be
after the first two weeks, that's
easy. I pick him up and I stream him in those
matchups.
Here's what's nice. How bought in are you?
Kamara is a
passion game monster. Olave
is a star, even
if his star isn't as bright as Shahid's
right now. And Shahid is a big play machine.
They have tight ends they can throw the football to.
So when you talk about all of those pieces,
it should keep
working. Now teams are going to adjust.
We saw Tua Tungavailoa
and Mike McDaniel come out, set the league on fire for half a year and teams adjusted to what
they were doing. There's going to be a give and take, and I guarantee you there's going to be a
Derek Carr historical remember me type of game where he makes some mistakes. What do you think
about him when you look at like Baker and how he's playing? Baker is balling out.
Baker looks great.
Baker right now is the number one quarterback.
In fantasy.
Yeah.
And Derek Carr is number two?
Correct.
So we're living in the upside down?
That is correct.
Yes, we are.
So, yeah, both of those guys need to be in contention for streamers every week.
And there are quarterbacks like Joe Burrow that are going to come up as like, am I just moving on?
Am I just –
Burrow was okay.
Yeah, Burrow actually looked like he –
Or Jared Goff.
I mean, Jared Goff.
Oh, Jared Goff.
I mean, back-to-back –
He does not take to that Dominator name.
I'm removing it.
Okay.
No, that's fair.
That's fair.
I think we might need to workshop changing it because –
Yeah.
Just Dominator. Back to Garf? it. Yeah. He's been a dominator.
Back to Garf.
Yeah, I mean, he was so bad.
And he honestly looked not great.
Didn't he pass for 460 yards or something?
Or did they have 460 yards on offense and yet somehow lost?
I'm pretty sure the offense.
I'm trying to search Garf.
That's not his name.
No, it isn't.
I mean, he had 200 in week one.
307 yards.
That's the part that's crazy.
And should have been more interceptions.
They were number one
in total passes in week two.
He threw the ball.
Is this right?
56 times? I'm seeing
55, but you know.
Okay, I'm looking on our site.
I'm going with 55.
Maybe one of their backfield
guys throw one pass?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah, so that's another discussion. We'll save it for the
duds.
At running back, Alvin Kamara, it was Christmas
all over again.
Feel free to hit the drop if you got it.
He was super Kamario.
He was indeed super Camario. He was unbelievable.
And could have scored another one.
Derek Carr said, nah, this is mine.
It was awesome.
James Cook on Thursday night.
Incredible.
Devon Achan as well on Thursday night.
Brees Hall, Braylon Allen.
Braylon Allen scored twice.
Brees Hall was everything else.
Yeah. I mean, you would think if Braylon Allen scored two touchdowns,
you'd be really disappointed with whatever Brees did.
But Brees was great.
Eight targets, seven for 52, and a touchdown through the air
in addition to the 14 for 62 on the ground.
Now, nine touches for Braylon Allen.
That is, you know, and they led to good things.
That is something interesting to watch.
Yeah, I think they'll continue to have him involved,
but obviously Brees is their main offensive weapon.
They utilize him as such.
Mike, J.K. Dobbins.
Dude.
The RB4 in back-to-back weeks.
17 carries, 131 and 1.
The receiving work wasn't there, unfortunately, this week.
We had the one target.
He, in this backfield, they're going to run a ton.
How many times did Gus run?
Yeah.
Gus had more carries than Dobbins.
Each week.
There is so much rushing to go around.
But right now, J.K. Dobbins is the one who has juice to actually break a play.
He's popping off the big play.
They ran it 17 and 18 times.
Yeah, and that's what they're going to want to do going forward.
I will say this.
J.K. Dobbins, such a great steal.
If you got him in your draft late, I hope you started him this week.
You should have.
Yeah.
I think he is an incredibly – he is a sell high.
If you can find someone who believes that he is – You think Dobbins is? I think Dobbins is a sell high. If you can find someone who believes that he is.
You think Dobbins is?
I think Dobbins is a sell high.
I am worried about the Achilles history.
You know, we saw Cam Akers come back quick and was really, really hot,
got injured again.
Interesting.
And so I just worry whether it's going to last this long.
And as soon as it stops, you know, if he has one bad game like you know they
play pittsburgh yeah that's a tough in pittsburgh if it's a bad game i don't think you're gonna
get much for him right now i think there's a chance you might have people really paying up
for us you know a great you know what they think is like a great star running back i don't think
9.9 per attempt is going to continue? I do not.
I'm kind of in the middle of what Jason's talking about. I think while he's
healthy, it's going to be an incredible run. But if
he does keep doing it, it
would be essentially
the first time we've ever seen it.
Carolina is a fun team to
play. I'll tell you that. That helped.
James Conner, Jordan Mason,
Ramondre Stevenson, big game,
Zach Charbonnet, David Montgomery, and Jameer Gibbs.
Charbonnet.
Charbonnet's in this list because he had a touchdown.
He does not look good.
No, he does not.
He looks too big.
He looks like he's –
Too triangular?
Yeah, I don't know, man.
He certainly looks slow.
I'm thrilled he got that rushing touchdown.
And he is a good receiving back, which is very, very valuable for fantasy.
Five targets caught all five.
And so in PPR, half PPR, while Kinbone is gone,
I think that Charbonnet is obviously a player that should be in your lineup.
It's just unfortunate that he's going to get all the work
and you would want all the work to result in monstrous fantasy games.
And I think you're going to get okay games.
Why and how did Derrick Henry hit 84 rushing yards?
They changed some stuff over the second half of where they were having him run.
So hopefully the team looks at that and says, oh, we got to get him outside the tackles
and get the Yeti going at full speed.
They did lose.
They did.
They did.
That was crazy.
Man, those Raiders showed some heart.
And honestly, like Devontae Adams was having the worst game.
We're somewhere, I think, middle to late third quarter,
and I was like, guys, Devontae Adams has 24 yards.
And then he just took over and was unbelievably good.
12 targets, 9 for 110, and a touchdown.
Smooth criminal catch on the sideline there.
Yeah, it was unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
And then wide receiver, Adams obviously had the big game.
Marvin Harrison.
I'm never going back to the pants store.
Yes.
Marvin Harrison was 4 for 130 and 2.
Detroit and Washington coming up.
And be excited.
Be not afraid.
It's all going to be okay.
Speaking of okay, Malik Nabors had 18 targets,
was 10 for 127 in a touchdown,
was the start of the week for the show.
Do you know what percent of the passes that was for Malik Nabors?
I believe I do.
In the 40%?
No, I think it was like 67%.
67%. So that's fun.
Daniel Jones.
That's not sustainable.
I mean, Daniel Jones, though, is doing the thing we say you should do.
Yeah.
When you don't have a chance, chuck it to the guy that is better than everybody else.
Well, and they won the game.
Oh, wait.
No, they didn't.
It was kind of Malik Naber's fault.
It was.
There was a fourth down play where they were driving.
Yeah, he had to be exhausted.
It was awesome, though.
That was an easy catch, and he dropped it on fourth down,
and then the other team comes back.
Kyle, correct me if I'm wrong, but the stat was this is the first team
to ever score three touchdowns and lose to a team that did not score a touchdown?
Correct.
In regulation.
Yeah.
Through two weeks, Malik Nabors has the most receptions in the NFL, the third most yards
in the most 20-plus yard plays.
He is a super stud.
He is awesome.
And if they're going to feature him, I mean, they can't feature him like this every game,
but obviously he is their focal point every week must start.
He was on my guy because you didn't pay Marvin Harrison prices
from the league neighbors.
In fantasy, you had to pay up for Marvin Harrison,
and neighbors was going to give you the same stuff way later in the draft.
Metcalf, welcome back.
He was a buy low target last week, which we talked about.
I wish I had been able to pull it off in a couple of leagues.
10 for 129 and a touchdown.
Nico Collins doing Nico things.
Yes, he is.
Nico looks like he's – yeah.
I'm giving him that drop too.
He is too physical.
I think he's competing for the wide receiver one on the season.
Like, he is unbelievably strong, big, talented.
He's not concerned about his target competition.
No.
No, which hopefully you cashed in on the Stefan Diggs sell opportunity
in week one because he's just not going to be a focal point of the offense.
Oh boy, of all the relief that I could have possibly had in week two,
Calvin Ridley going off for four for 77 and a touchdown.
In the weirdest way possible. And then another touchdown on the ground.
He was going against Sauce Gardner, so this matchup was going to be a tough one.
But putting up a top 10 performance on the week was
Woo!
He had a big play, easy
catch, drop ski.
And then he comes back, has an
impossibly hard, you're never
going to make this play catch, and he caught
it for a touchdown. The defenders
stopped playing at the end of it
because they're like, there's no way he could have caught that.
Jefferson, 97-yard
touchdown helps.
Hopefully, he's back out there.
He looks good. Godwin,
we talked about it. 7-for-1, 17
and a touchdown.
He was the man. Mike Evans had a
down week for this team. Godwin
had an incredible week. Jason,
credit to you for bringing him up multiple
times last week. Quentin
Johnston, 5 for 51
and 2. Here's
the thing about his performance.
He is
their big physical receiver.
That is going to be valuable
in this offense.
If you had to pick one guy to bet on, you want
the guy that's going to maybe catch the ball in the red zone.
Quentin Johnston fits that profile.
But this is a team that ran the ball 35 times between their starting running backs.
So I don't think you're going to really have high volume totals for any receiver on this team without a touchdown.
Like McConkie last week scored.
Cool, you're happy.
This week, Quentin Johnston.
5 for 51 is not special, but he scored twice.
So if you have to bet on one, I'd still be betting on Quentin.
It's just going to be a little bit tough with the way this offense wants to function.
Pittsburgh and Kansas City are next for Quentin Johnston.
He'll be on the waiver show, and I'm okay with a speculative ad,
but he won't be at the top of my list.
Yeah, it's like Alan Lazard in week one.
Yeah.
Do we know, wasn't Herbert injured in that game?
He was.
He left for a little bit.
He came back, and then I saw there was a note about x-rays were going to happen.
Yeah, I don't remember if it was ankle or I remember possible MCL.
He came back in and played.
Okay, so we're not worried.
Came back in and played and ran.
I mean, he had that big run after that injury.
Okay.
Rasheed Shahid, 4 for 96 and a touchdown.
We brought him up and ready to roll this week.
And then Zay Flowers, 7 for 91 and a touchdown.
It was good to see, but they got upset at home.
JSN, we talked about it, and Amon Ra, 19 targets.
19 targets.
Despite coming off the field for a little while.
So Amon Raw, all is restored, balanced to the fourth.
Yes.
That has been the story.
George Kittle, 7 for 76 and a touchdown.
He's one of the very few top-tier tight ends that gave you what you wanted.
I mean, it was good to see.
And he came off for a few minutes, got an IV.
He was dealing with cramps.
And Trey McBride
might be the best of all the
top five tight end picks.
We were going through them. Kelsey looks
scary right now. Sam Laporta
looks a little scary with Jamison Williams breaking
out. Dalton Kincaid's off to a slow
start. Mark Andrews had the weak one. Super
scare. Trey McBride's been great. You just named four
players with no touchdowns. Right. Trey McBride
who got a touchdown
Yeah, he did.
If you didn't watch the game.
Trey McBride, 6 for 67
through the air. Some incredible
catches. He got a touchdown
because James Conner fumbled at the goal line
and Trey McBride fell
on the ball in the end zone. The touchdown
100% fluky. Nothing to read into there, but six for 67, again, in a game
where Marvin Harrison did what he did, and then the fourth quarter was not needed by
these players.
So six for 67 is, it warms my heart.
I'll take that.
Brock Bowers, nine for 98.
He's too good.
He is unbelievable.
I mean, Andy, you
were asking,
could he be the best
tight end in the NFL right now?
The best pass catching one? He could be.
He could be the best pass catcher. Him and
McBride, total
tight end. Mike, you brought up Kittle's a better tight
end. Kelsey right
now not doing a lot.
You know, Andrews. But the fact that he's
two games into his career
and you can
have that argument. He's not the best right
now. No, it's just a fun talking point.
But you can have
an argument that is somewhat
legitimate. He is
exceptional. Most receptions
for a rookie tight end through two
games and he broke the record by three so he had 15 the record was 12 he's the tight end five and
four in the first two career games he was he was brought up as like the finalist for a my guy
because it felt too scary to name a rookie tight end that and that's what but he was right i mean i
almost did it and and he is no touchdowns in the first two weeks and was top five in both.
We have a Monday night game that could shift that.
That is the dream.
You want production that exists outside of having to score.
And Gesicki had a huge game, 7 for 91.
He'll be a part of the waiver show tomorrow.
Did you bring up Hunter Henry?
No.
Hunter Henry.
8 for 109. 8 for 109.
8 for 109.
He had 109 yards.
Hold on.
Let me pull up Jacoby Brissett's line.
Jacoby Brissett had 149 passing yards.
Did you hear that, Andy?
Let me say that again.
Jacoby Brissett had 149 passing yards.
And Hunter Henry had 109 receiving yards.
Wow.
He had all of Seattle.
What are you doing, baby?
We know where the ball is going.
It's going to Hunter Henry.
They won.
It's just funny.
Hey, if we have a tight end funnel against Seattle,
that would be delightful.
The tight end position outside of the very top tier guys
is so much a product of opportunity.
Hunter Henry has always been capable of these type of games
if you just threw him the ball a ton of times.
If you had an offense that needed him to be this, he could do it.
There are guys like that in the NFL that just don't have as many chances.
Which, moving forward, I don't know how much I'll be on Hunter Henry.
No, he does this every year three times.
And he was, it's a few weeks back, but it was those,
hey, look at the early schedule.
Is there any tight ends?
Should your draft plan go terrible?
Who's someone who has two great games to start?
It was Hunter Henry.
I got scared off by the
week one because it was not great but it was the matchup was there the matchups are not going to
be there for the jets hunter 49ers hunter henry last year just for oh yeah so you remember yes
he was the number one tight end in week one number two and week two he skipped a whole bunch of games
and then the last two of his season he was three and three so he had three top four
top bookends yeah i mean apparently so and to be clear he didn't actually skip the season he played
yeah no no he played skipped being good for fantasy but he's always been capable so let's
take a break let's talk about some duds all right we're going to to help console you through some tough performances.
Pooped in his big boy pants.
All right, quarterbacks, we did not get any touchdowns from Josh Allen.
Yeah, Josh Allen,
the poopy pants almost feels like
the poop was just seepage from the
Miami Dolphins into
Josh Allen's pants of
he didn't need to do anything. Just osmosis
poop? Yeah.
I'm not concerned about Josh Allen. This was
a devastatingly
bad game by Miami.
And then Cook had those huge explosive plays.
Jared Goff had 55 pass attempts, 307 yards, but threw two picks.
A couple of them.
One of them was not his fault, in my opinion.
It was a clear illegal contact on Jamison Williams,
an anticipatory throw, nothing on Goff for that.
The second one was really bad, and it was in their side. They were in their opponent was really bad and it was in the in the their side you know
they were in their opponent's side and it was a problem but also threw it to a defender one time
where the defender dropped it so yeah there was multiple should have been picks yeah he he's
concerning to me and it's funny because he's got arizona this next week in arizona that that seems
like a a really good matchup no No pass rush, not a great secondary.
In a dome.
In a dome.
And I'm like, I got to press pause, but is that wrong?
Pause is the right word.
Like golf, I mean, when you throw for 307 yards,
you know, he's going to get into the end zone.
Laporta hasn't scored.
Amin Ra, he should be healthy.
I would press pause.
I wouldn't. If you've been buried twice,
no need to go back and let him do it to you again.
Andy, just please don't make him a start of the week this week.
I won't.
Okay, good.
Hopefully that wasn't implying that I did this.
No, this was implying that Mike had him as week one.
Week one did not work.
I had him as week two.
I will not do it.
Don't complete the trifecta because –
It should work.
It should work, though.
Hey, guess what?
Anthony Richardson.
Hey, how we doing, everybody?
The orb that Andy looked into.
It was a little bit fuzzy, apparently.
It was pretty close.
It was pretty close.
Pretty freaking close of the Green Bay Packers taking care of the Indianapolis Colts
where Malik Willis completed
12 passes for 122 yards with a touchdown.
The fact that the, that's the winning quarterback.
Yeah.
The, the fact that the Packers were able to just run the ball into infinity.
That was the recipe.
I know I just I thought I thought Anthony Richardson could do enough
where we know what the Packers are going to do you don't know what the Colts are going to do
they could surprise you with with some things but it was just a disaster I had tremendous trust in
the Packers coaching staff to prepare them at home against a player that I'm viewing as a rookie in the NFL
who looked like a rookie in this game.
Anthony Richardson made all the plays that a rookie makes,
which means you have a couple good plays.
You threw three interceptions.
It could have been five.
It could have been six.
He also fumbled the ball twice.
So this was a, you know.
Only ran for 37 yards.
Yeah, it was a really, really bad game.
You were negative for most of the game with his fantasy points.
He, at the very end, had a drive that helped you fantasy-wise.
I mean, he's a bust in total fantasy points,
and you're lucky that he scored that many.
50% completion rate.
So we're two weeks in.
You don't generally finish in the top 12
if you can't get your completion percentage at least get it to 59, 60%.
Yeah.
He's going to be an incredibly boom bust quarterback.
Yeah, what are you feeling like after two weeks?
Yeah, I have him.
He's my league of record.
Are you just locking him in still?
No, no, no, no.
I don't think so.
I mean, for instance, the next two weeks, it's Chicago and Pittsburgh.
Those are unbelievable defenses.
Those are like, you know, top six defenses.
Is that a bench?
It just depends on who you have.
Like, I've got Brock Purdy, and I think Brock Purdy is a nice, safe start
if there's a better matchup.
Baker?
The top two?
Baker and Carr?
Yeah, I mean, I think you need to have someone else on your roster
if you've got Anthony Richardson so you can try to play the right matchups.
Patrick Mahomes, two picks, not a big fantasy day.
Again, continuing the rhythm of last year,
although this would be your buy opportunity in my opinion.
Atlanta, Los Angeles on the road the next two weeks.
Those are not going to be easy.
It should.
It should be a buy low moment for Patrick
Mahomes. We had a
buy low moment last year
and you just kept waiting and you just kept waiting.
When is Mahomes going to do
Mahomes-y and things? And the second half was
a disaster for fantasy
for Mahomes.
Because I
agree that this is the moment that you
could go get Mahomes and things could turn around,
but what is your real confidence in that actually happening?
It's been a while for Mahomes for fantasy purposes.
Yeah, I mean, losing Pacheco hurts the offense as a whole,
but it certainly means that he's going to be passing a ton.
He's going to be dropping back a lot.
I do think they have better weapons than they've had.
You know, Rushie Rice is legit.
Had some downfield action.
Xavier Worthy has speed that can break things open at every play.
I'm starting to feel the opposite of that.
The opposite of what?
That they have better weapons.
Oh, than last year?
Because if Kelsey has taken a significant step back athletically.
He's not a part of the offense. and isn't a part of the offense,
tell me that you draft Xavier Worthy and then you lose Kelsey
for all intents and purposes in the offense
and you lose Pacheco, who's a pass-catching weapon.
All of a sudden, Xavier Worthy was used this past weekend
to take end-of-round screens for the game.
Like, Rashi Rice is an awesome player,
but he has not Tyree Kill or A.J. Brown.
Like, I do not think he has – and then Hollywood's gone?
I'm certainly not.
I don't think he's got better weapons right now.
I'm certainly not saying he's got better weapons than the old days of the Tyreek and Kelsey.
But last year, the MVS and Sky Moore, and I do think these are better weapons.
I don't think Kelsey is – I don't know why they're not using him that much.
You know,
he was wide open in the back
of the end zone on a play. He still
finds the right spots. I would rather
have Kelsey than
Xavier Worthy
in the offense. Sure.
Just a reminder of last
year, Kelsey was
above, let me make sure which scoring format I am in.
I'm in a four-point passing touchdown.
He was over 20 points four times.
Mahomes.
Mahomes was.
He was a top five quarterback two times.
He had one explosive game.
I'm not doing the buy low.
I'm playing it neutral. I'm playing it neutral.
I'm playing it even.
I don't think it's a bad investment
in action you can take with your team
that could turn into a huge windfall
for your fantasy team,
but I think it's a little sketchy.
Losing Pacheco does not help them.
No, it doesn't.
He may have to throw it five more times,
but he may get sacked five more times.
Like, they should go get somebody at running back.
Leonard Fournette's out there, right?
Yeah.
Leonard Fournette would help this team tremendously.
I think they – I mean, Samaj P. Ryan is their Leonard Fournette.
They chose him over Leonard.
Yeah, but that's because he was going to come in and play a third down roll.
I mean, I would not be shocked if you heard some names getting worked out
in Kansas City because Carson Steele, the fullback, is not an answer.
People are worried about Dak.
Should they be worried about Dak?
I don't think they should be worried about Dak.
Obviously, week one
it was ironic because
they had two blowouts
this is what they did last year too
one was a win one was a loss
against Baltimore this next week
at home
I think it'll be fine I'm not worried about Dak
CJ Stroud
they won the ball game but from a fantasy
perspective CJ Stroud was middle won the ball game, but from a fantasy perspective, CJ Stroud was
middle of the pack. Watching
that game yesterday,
and I messaged in Slack, so I want to get your guys
just, what did you think
of the game? And it's all anecdotal, but
I was watching this game going,
man, Caleb Williams is not getting anything
done. I know he's under duress
all the time, but even
when he's seemingly
not, it didn't feel like
Caleb Owens was playing a very good game.
And I'm like, CJ Stroud, he looks
fantastic. And it was 16-10.
That's a good defense. That's what it does.
A good defense. But I'm saying I felt like
Stroud was playing well, and they still weren't putting
up points. So it was just
this strange situation of
a one-score one score game thinking one quarterback
is playing terribly and the other one's playing great but it's just a one score game running back
duds rashad white had five receiving yards in this game he went out injured i made him my
parterre parlay and it was the least receiving yards he's had in his last 20 games.
20 games.
And so that was crazy.
He did have a groin injury scare.
He did go back in the game.
He was a huge bust in this game.
He did go back in the game.
But opportunity-wise, where are you at?
Because you were the most Rashad White will still get everything.
Is that confidence still strong or is it wavering?
I mean, this was a game that he was shut down by a run defense
we know is dominant.
So, you know, they won the ball game.
Seven carries for Bucky Irving for 22.
That's not special.
10 for 18 for Rashad White.
That's even worse.
And one target to the running
back. This is just an outlier game.
Not an outlier is the
putrid, abysmal,
incredibly
ugly performances of DeAndre
Swift. And let me tell you something. It's so bad!
I went into last night basically
in our League of Record, heads up,
Mixon versus DeAndre Swift.
I lost Mixon in the game with two quarters of Swift left, basically a quarter and a half.
I all but was positive. It's over. A couple of dump offs and garbage time.
It wasn't over. 14 for 18 for DeAndre Swift. The offensive line is not playing favorites when it comes to who it doesn't open holes for or protect.
Well, if you look at Swift and his value last year, he was running from wide open holes.
He had the most yards before contact, and he's very fast.
He is not very good.
He's not very strong either.
And this, I mean, every single time they handed him the ball,
it was basically wasting a play.
It was like, okay, we're going to delete first and 10.
But often making second down even further back.
24 for 48 on the year.
Yeah, two yards a carry.
I mean, you got to start.
I honestly think that they would be better off
handing the ball to Khalil Herbert.
You're darn right they would.
He looked a little bit better.
He is better.
He's just a better.
Those are the worst when you have a guy on your team,
but then you feel like you've got to add somebody in free agency
because you've got a ton of money.
You go and you do it,
and then you're stuck playing the player you don't believe in.
Betsy on the Dynasty podcast called, you know, before the season,
he said DeAndre Swift was going to be this year's Miles Sanders.
Oh, it feels exactly like that.
You go out, you get the bag, you have the team give you money right away.
Like, they went after him.
Yeah, they did.
But they're just not very good.
That is a red alert for DeAndre, because they will bring,
like, they will bring other players in.
They're going to start to compliment him more.
You saw more of Herbert last night than the day before.
Yeah, Chuba ended up taking over as the season went along
because he was better than Miles Sanders.
Zach Moss and Chase Brown are still not going to help your fantasy team.
Zach Moss was 80% of the snaps.
You can play him against Washington next week?
Oh, for sure.
Zach Moss is still the leader.
Zeke and Dowdle both basically split snaps and also left early.
Dowdle started.
Yeah, Dowdle started the game.
Deuce Vaughn got involved.
He didn't get a bunch of opportunities, but he was taking snaps.
And then Zeke came in.
If Deuce Vaughn is really part of the plan,
this is an absolute disaster of whoever gets the rushing touchdown that week.
It's fine.
This is why I'm not concerned about Dak.
Because they're going to throw the ball.
They can't run.
Why did Jerome Ford get seven carries and Deonta Foreman get 14
when Ford was seven for 64?
Well, Ford had a huge run that juiced up those numbers,
but Deonta Foreman was – he had more carries.
Maybe they just prefer Deonta Foreman.
Now this is like a red alert.
For you it is?
Yeah, because Jerome Ford's entire
fantasy purpose for us was he was the entire workload for the Cleveland Browns if you can't
be sure that's going to happen then he is a very sketchy play there are a lot of running back names
that were sketchy moving forward in that group yeah I mean especially considering you don't
project Jerome Ford to have the goal line opportunities.
If he's not, you know,
starting the game, if it's Foreman, that's
tough. We're running pretty long here
on today's episode, so I want to read you
some wide receiver duds, and I want you to tell
me worried,
not worried, okay? Let's play some worried, not
worried. Jamar Chase. Not worried.
Garrett Wilson. Worried. Annoyed.
I don't think he's
that dude.
He did have a couple plays in the game that were
really good, but yeah, maybe you're right.
Mike Evans. Worried, not worried.
Just real quick.
That was LeJarius Sneed.
76% of the routes
that Wilson ran, he was covered by Sneed.
We knew this was a possibility.
I'm not worried. I'm not worried yet.
I'm just annoyed.
Mike Evans, not worried. Nope.
DJ Moore. Yeah.
He was so frustrated.
He seemed like he was frustrated
at Caleb. Yes.
The concern is not with DJ Moore, the player.
The concern is with the Bears offense
and rookie quarterbacks looking
like rookie quarterbacks
the number one name that uh people submitted for monday punday was tank dell by far when i was
going through the submissions we had stank dell um we had a lot of different names yeah even ones
that jason made up and one for negative three through the air in this game. He had four targets, which you would want to see more.
This is obviously good defense.
One of those targets was, man, probably a 50-yard touchdown down the seam
if he catches the ball and he dropped it.
So that was really upsetting.
George Pickens against Sertan, not worried.
Nope.
Brandon Ayuk, 4 for 43.
I am going to go not worried.
I'm going to say I am annoyed.
Brock Purdy has not looked great.
I know he had 300 yards and a passing touchdown.
He did not look good to me.
They were trailing like the whole game,
so that's how he got to the 300 yards.
But I think that that will balance out and they'll be okay.
Worried, not worried?
I think it'll take a couple more weeks.
So I'm not worried long term.
And then the veterans who are number one targets but have been disappointing,
Amari Cooper, worried, not worried?
I am worried. A little worried. Michael Pittman. Super worried. Very worried, not worried? I am worried.
A little worried.
Michael Pittman.
Super worried.
Very, very worried.
Terry McLaurin.
Very worried.
Yeah, super worried.
Cortland Sutton.
I mean, Cortland Sutton, Terry McLaurin, Michael Pittman, and Amari Cooper,
they're number ones for bad offenses, and it's not working out.
Would you rather – I feel like I would rather have number twos for, you know,
great offenses than numberos for great offenses
than number ones for bad offenses.
So I guess categorizing Cleveland as a bad offense,
is that where you're at right now?
Yeah, I mean, I guess they're more middle of the pack.
They aren't straight up bad, but he'll have good games.
We talked about him earlier.
He'll have good games this season.
He is earning the targets, but he's not doing anything with them.
The week against the Giants coming up, that's going to be a huge moment.
Litmus test?
Yeah, huge moment for the Browns and Amari Cooper.
If Cooper comes out and has another 40 yards or whatever,
I will be at red alert.
40 would be great.
He hit 11 this week.
I'm saying if you only get to 40 against the Giants, that ain't it.
Ladd-McConkie, two for 26.
I don't think you're going to be able to start Ladd-McConkie this year.
Oh, I definitely think you'll be able to start Ladd-McConkie this year.
I told everyone to not start him this game anyways.
I don't think you're ever going to be able to start him.
Yeah, where are you?
Pittsburgh, Kansas City.
He only played 49% of snaps.
He's, I just, like, his yardage.
I mean, you got 39 and 26 yards.
I just don't think, I don't think he's ever going to factor into this offense
to any sort of focal point.
Yeah, he'll end the year as their number one target.
What does that mean?
That means that you'll have plenty of times that you can start him.
I mean, Carolina, we knew that this was going to happen.
We talked about it before.
I know Quentin got two touchdowns in this game because he just was found wide open in the end zone, but it was like, this was the prescription the whole time. They're going
to be up so much. They're going to run the ball 17 and 18 carries for two different running backs.
You were never going to pass the ball much. You don't even need to be on the field or
throwing the ball.
That's what happens against Carolina over and over and over.
Yeah, I mean, they didn't
throw it against Las Vegas either.
Yeah, it's just a matter of
what the game script is going to be. If you think
they're going up against a team that's going to put a lot of points
on them, then I'm fine starting McConkie.
If you think they're going up against a team where it's going to be
a low-scoring run
both teams,
then bench them.
That's how I view it. Christian Kirk won for negative one.
Yeah, we disagree on the wide receivers in Los Angeles.
Christian Kirk is a red alert.
I thought after he wasn't to advise you play Christian Kirk, but it's keep your eye on it.
Because with Evan Engram out, Christian Kirk should be able to establish more of a role in that area since him
and Engram play
complementary roles of
actually not complementary, similar roles.
So the fact that that's what
we got is
rough. He managed to
be worse than week one by a lot.
And week one he had one catch.
Travis Kelsey, Sam
Laporta, Mark Andrews.
Andrews was four for 51.
I wouldn't put that in the dud category.
I'm not worried about Andrews.
He was 27 of the 37 Lamar dropbacks.
He also got missed on a monster potential touchdown.
Ran more routes than Isaiah Likely.
I don't want this to turn into just we're apologizing for Mark Andrews
every single week.
But two weeks in, this seems to have corrected itself.
Kelsey is, that one is absolutely baffling.
They fixed his contract, right?
They did something with his contract.
They did.
Of getting him more money, and he is, as of right now,
it's not that he's not the focal point.
It's that he's barely involved in the offense.
During the second half of last year when he was much,
much worse than his fire start, he was playing 67, 60% of snaps,
71% of snaps.
He played 91% of the snaps in this game. It's very strange.
Dalton Kincaid, 4 for 33 on Thursday night football.
That's part of the Bills thing.
The fact that he came out with his head knead.
And he got two passes early.
They were going to start getting him going.
That game goes in the garbage for me.
We'll watch Kyle Pitts tonight and see what he can do.
Dallas Goddard on the field without A.J. Brown tonight.
I know you guys are in a matchup. Dallas Goddard under four points can do. Dallas Goddard on the field without A.J. Brown tonight. I know you guys are in a matchup.
Dallas Goddard under four points, everybody.
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