Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 2 Studs & Duds + True DAWGS! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/15

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 15, 2025. Another wild weekend in the books! Fantasy football studs, duds, and takeaways from Week 2! Find out which down performances are a cause for concern for fantasy... football managers. Plus, big injury updates, and a look ahead to Week 3! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(07:45) Monday Punday(10:15) NFL News(19:05) Fantasy Studmuffins(19:10) QB Studs (27:35) RB Studs(36:15) WR Studs(38:55) TE Studs(41:00) Fantasy Duds(41:10) QB Duds(45:30) RB Duds(52:15) WR Duds(01:03:30) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Monday, September 15th, the fantasy footballers, Mike, the fantasy hitman. Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Welcome into the show. Week two nearly complete, although we do have a double header tonight. week two week two got me good guys
Starting point is 00:01:01 week two reality check yeah yeah yeah I mean I saw him with the eagles and then there were a lot of now we're just walking on the ground with the snails there were a lot of you know like pendulum swings
Starting point is 00:01:17 uh huh yeah week two which is you know I kind of posted something this morning it's like this is data gathering time and we don't want to accept it we would like to draw Conclusions, I can tell you I would love to victory lap things. Probably have. Probably shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Some things you can. Well, one thing. One thing. One thing in particular. Can we get... We're Tyquan Thornton, baby. It gets the music? Well, actually, I thought I was going to get the lights. I was looking for it all. But, no, I can victory lap that.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because he scored a touchdown. It's not really. that impressive, though, when you know. No, I'm going to be fair. I need to apologize publicly. I said 42-yard touchdown, and it was
Starting point is 00:02:06 49. Yeah. Yep. It was 49, and that is my bad. You should be embarrassed. Dummy. See, you guys, you entrap me right into a victory celebration, but really, we're gathering data. I mean, a lot of the best tools of the Foot Clan, you know, the ultimate
Starting point is 00:02:22 dashboard, all of the things that we have, they don't even go live until three or four weeks worth of data. We're learning about defenses. I mean, Derek Henry was the best player in football in week one, and then in week two he was shut down. Josh Allen scored 48, 50 points. Week two, he scored like 11.
Starting point is 00:02:40 You know, Jalen Hertz has scored three points in a victory. Yeah, although the week one wide receiver busts like Jamar Chase and Amin-Raw St. Brown were like, oh, no, we're actually really good at football. And then there's A.J. Brown. Yeah. Yeah, you know what the most frightening stat was, was one I read this morning. I know what the most frightening stat is for me, which is the Eagles are 2 and 0. That is very, very frightening.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And without a passing touchdown, if I am not mistaken. Jalen Hurts, you're ready for this. Shout out to Mike Rinner, pointing out what we've seen. Jalen Hertz has two completions of 10 plus air yards in two games. Two victories. That's the big problem. That would be tied with Tyrod Taylor, who played the fourth quarter of the Jets game. And they're 2-0.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That should put the fear within because their defense is that good. And their running game is that good. Yeah. And their quarterback can run and their quarterback can sneak. And the tush push is getting a full-on, like, very angry reaction this weekend for good reason, because all the false starts that aren't called? Because of all the uncalled false starts. As I think the biggest supporter of the tush push of saying don't ban a play because you can't stop it.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I mean, Philadelphia, take it easy, man. I'm trying to support you and you're just over here like, yeah, well, we'll just do it every play now. And we will fall start all the time and get away with it. I'm trying to be supportive and you're making me look to fools. I like that they do it every play, but you still got to have it be a legal play. I mean, Philly fans can't watch that and be like, oh, yeah, that was not a false start. The guards are allowed to move early. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's like way early. And the center's super over the ball. That play will not, I am, it will be gone. It will 100% be gone next year. Yeah, this is. So enjoy it while you have it. This will be exhibit A. It will at least be gone in that form.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Right. You know what I mean? So we'll still have sneaks and stuff. And he may be just as successful doing that. He is a. It's not like Tom Brady wasn't a 90% quarterback sneak player. You can still have plays. Daniel Jones ain't getting his tush pushed.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Oh, I'm so, so angry. He's just a man getting to done. So angry at him. I'm so proud of him like he's playing such good football. But stop taking my Jonathan Taylor touchdowns. Jason was beside himself. Three vultured touchdowns in two weeks. Taylor had an okay day.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Oh, he was awesome. Independent of that. But yeah, this is the time to gather data, take a breath. and, you know, realize that the reality for a lot of these players is not week one. It's not week two. It's somewhere in between. And we're learning which offenses, offensive systems, offensive coordinators, head coaches, defenses, have it together or don't? We're learning a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:05:38 We've seen really nasty stuff from Brian Thomas for two weeks. I was going to bring up Brian Thomas because I don't know what's going on with me this year. Perhaps it's the age is catching up with me. Okay. All right. But I am going old school football. Guys, I am just evaluating people on how tough or soft they are. This will now be my analysis.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Okay. Oh, you're that guy. Yeah, you're like either you're tough, you're the dog, you got it. Oh, yeah. Or me or meow and get out of my life. Oh, so are we, are you giving Brian Thomas Jr. the meow? He's on notice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:15 He is on notice. You can't, one in a game? Okay. You don't want to get hit one time. It happens to the best of us. Two? When you're talking to one, you're saying one, being afraid to go across the middle? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Okay. Also, yeah, I mean, he caused an interception by alligator arming one ball and did it again later in the game. Also had a brutal fourth down drop. Like, you could definitely lay most of that game at his feet with how close it was. Now, Mike, Anthony Richardson needing to play off after getting tired. Would that be in the... Oh. It's in the meow.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Guys, come on. Don't give me layups right now. I'm prepared for hard questions. Okay. All right. Yeah. We'll go to you for all toughness analysis. Because that's what I, I'm tough.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah. So I will be judging you football player on how tough you are. Yeah. Yeah. So we have a lot. I would do it. We have a lot to react to. Yeah, you would totally.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Oh, I would do one play and I would perish. We have a lot to react to this week. And we have studs and duds on the show, NFL news to catch you up on. huge injury news and implications. Unfortunately, Jason, after week one, was like, oh, there haven't been any injuries. And then, yeah, we're going to have some season-long implications after what happened this weekend. And, of course, we react to the weekend in the most sophisticated way possible.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like two dogs. Yes, this is a real doggy segment. Let me sip my teeth. Dogs can be sophisticated. And we got your reactions to the week. Monday, Punday arrives again for week two. starting with the good, Jason.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Well, there's Rome O Boomsay. Oh, he was good. James cooked. Ooh, la, la, St. Brown. Ammon Ra, Ra, St. Brown. We're allowing this to happy? I think so.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Booty scooting, bea shalt toot. Not bad. Kenneth Runner. Yeah, that's right. Oh, how about Kraft yak and cheese? He is the king of the yak. We got Pook Nukum. And Jew Nguyen Johnson.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Mike, nice call. My dude, Cam Scada boom. It was nice to see. Oh, it was. We did have some bad, and there wouldn't be a bad without getting him back in here. A.J. frown, people were going to run out of A.J. Brown puns. There were also lots of puns about this guy, but I liked the reality here. Starvin Harrison, Jr.
Starting point is 00:08:35 This one's a little too soon. Toborough. How about just in Completion's Fields? That's good. That's another big pendulum. Cortland nothing J.J. McFarty or Chase's brown pants
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. Wait for brown pants is back? Yeah, Chase gets it this time. Xavier Regrat. That dude sucks. That dude sucks. One more, Jason. And Lion Thomas Jr. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Oh, man. Do you guys remember? 19 targets, five catches through two weeks for Brian Thomas Jr. Incredible. You love the targets. That's great. 19 targets through two weeks. What a great first round pick.
Starting point is 00:09:14 The process. scream into the night. Do you guys remember where Xavier Legat was drafted in the first round? Yeah. Pick 32. Yeah. Do you remember who was picked, picked 33? Is that lad lad?
Starting point is 00:09:27 That's my little lad, McConkey. Yeah. Whoopsie doozles. Sometimes even the professionals get enamored by size and athleticism. Yeah. Actually, Keon Coleman was 33. Lad was 34. 33.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah. In the first round, how'd that work? I didn't. Keon Coleman was a second round pick. Oh, Keon. Oh, you thought I was saying regret. I thought you were saying, yes, regret. Okay, well, so then that's two strikes.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Thank you for submitting your puns on X at the FF Ballers on Instagram at Fantasy Footballers. And if you're ever like, oh, that segment, that's kind of bad. These are the best ones. These are the best ones you submit. And this is up to you. This is up to you. If you think it's bad, you do better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Get involved. All right, let's talk news. News and notes from Around the League, presented by Progressive Insurance. Well, Joe Burrow suffered a grade three turf toe injury. It will require surgery. It's big. The public line right now on Joe Burrow is that he's expected to miss three months. Our injury expert, everything I've read from injury experts on a surgically repaired turf toe injury is there are zero players.
Starting point is 00:10:44 that have returned the same season so far. And only 20 of 25 ever came back to play. I mean, he'll come back to play. He'll absolutely come back to play. It's just like this is not a, we're naming it, it's called turf toe. But to be clear, it is a violent
Starting point is 00:11:00 tearing of ligaments and tendons in your foot. And so there is no way to play on that. But Joe Burrow, another season, another injury. After a great preseason and training camp, where we're like, oh, he's the best he's ever
Starting point is 00:11:14 in and you watch these games and you know they just aren't investing in the offensive line to the degree to protect him. He is under fire. I was going to come in here today. And one of my top things was going to be like, can Joe Burrow actually be a fantasy superstar with an offensive line like this? And the answer is now definitively no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:32 The three month line that they keep saying is to give them hopes of the playoffs like if Joe Burrow can come back and abandon all hope. Right. But the truth is you're not going to win enough games to be playoff bound without Joe Burrow. So I can't fathom them rushing him back or making him come back at the end of this year.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So for our purposes, I think you just have to look at Joe Burrow, T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, with this being considered a season-ending injury and he's gone, not coming back. At Minnesota, at Denver, against Detroit, at Green Bay. Three out of the next four on the road, all four. I mean, you want to line up the four tougher defenses in the league. You're pretty much doing it there, Minnesota, Denver, Detroit, Green Bay. Jake Browning will take over. And Jake Browning is not incompetent.
Starting point is 00:12:26 No, no, no, he's definitely not. And it's not, Chase is not totally removed from your fantasy football lineup. He's just, he's not. Had a monster week. He's not the number one overall pick type of ceiling anymore. And it will be Jake Browning. Like, the team is going to turn to him. that we're not going to get some cool trade here.
Starting point is 00:12:47 No, Kirk Cousins of the Cincinnati Bengals? Well, I don't even think that. I mean, there's so many salary cap things for that to even happen. I'm saying like the Jamest, calls for Jamis. Sure. They're going to go to Jake Browning. That's what it will be. So, you know, T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:13:02 As a reminder. It's going to be a major impact for him because Jake Browning did hyper-focused on Chase after the injury. Chase had an unbelievable day. 16 targets, 14 catches, a touch. touchdown. But if you look historically at his games without Joe Burrow, he's got a couple good ones, about six or seven real duds. He's still Jamar Chase that can make things happen, but it's brutal. And, I mean, Chase Brown as well, just the entire offense. It's like the Chase Brown being on my guy, this is a really bad position to be. Oh, I forgot about
Starting point is 00:13:35 that. Yeah, Chase Brown is going to be in big trouble. Yes. He could be. Back in In 2022, we saw seven games started from Jake Browning, and he was actually pretty good during that stretch. Quarterback 18, quarterback four, quarterback four, quarterback eight, quarterback 21, quarterback eight, quarterback nine. The majority of his weeks were top 10. He was on pace for 4,500 yards. He's more experienced now. So this is not a, I think this is a quality backup. He's not going to do what Joe Burrow could do. He's not going to go out there and be able to throw. Do they give him a different offensive line? Oh, man. That offensive line is... Oh, they won, by the way. We have seen... I mean, congratulations on your insane two and o start. Jake Browning threw three interceptions after coming in for Joe Burrow and won.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And they were losing. Right, they were down seven when Jake Browning came in. Take a bow, Brian Thomas. Take a bow, Trevor Lawrence. Take a bow. Shane Waldron. Yeah. Oh, man. That was a...
Starting point is 00:14:34 That was a pretty, in my opinion, a very good almost. upset. I think technically I didn't cover. Yeah, you didn't cover. Somehow, some way that did not cover. But also you watch the game and you go, the Jags were the better team. Yeah, I know. Two weeks of picking against Cincinnati and the other team being
Starting point is 00:14:51 better. Yeah. Well, well. All right. Justin Fields evaluated for a concussion on Sunday, didn't play in the fourth quarter. Also, barely played in the first three. Yeah, it was a brutal outing for all members of the New York. Why did I? Why did I? Why did I?
Starting point is 00:15:07 why did I do what I say not to do? Yep. Why did I believe in Justin Fields? Why did I believe that perform? I mean, by the way, we can, I'll happily apologize to everybody. We picked three Jets this week. Yeah, yeah. Sharts of the week.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I think maybe the Steelers defense is way worse than we ever thought. I think that that is the takeaway. We thought the Jets were good against a good defense in week one. What we didn't know is they were good against a bad defense in week one. And Buffalo got run all over. over in week one, and they look like a great defense in week two, and we bought into the dumbest, stupidest
Starting point is 00:15:43 team ever. Well, it's just, it's so bizarre of, like, Derek Henry and the Ravens, run all over the Buffalo Bills. And you're like, and then the Browns, I mean, it's just, Derek Henry had what, like 20 yards? I mean, football,
Starting point is 00:15:59 football is crazy. But also, I do think that the, the Steelers could be trending to a team that we just, we target our, running backs against the Steelers. So Justin Fields had a terrible game and then got hurt and we'll be in concussion
Starting point is 00:16:15 protocol. Aaron Jones left with a hamstring injury. We don't know the severity, but that could put Jordan Mason Square in the start for a while category. It does. Unfortunately, we have to pay attention to what's going on with their offensive line. Like they already had an injury to left tackle. They lost their center to a concussion who
Starting point is 00:16:33 has a concussion history. And you, I mean, you saw it of Ryan Kelly. Yes. Yeah, yeah. You saw it last night of, I'm not that J.J. McCarthy played outstanding. He looked like a young and experienced player. Yeah. Yes. He made a couple really, really good throws. His, Jay, you were talking about his throwing motion and there is something right really long about. It just, it looks like he had, he's like, it's everything he got with when he's bombing that, the ball downfield. As soon as he starts, it's a wind up, charge up the power and let it go. I was like, I'm going to throw to that guy.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It's like, okay, one, one thousand go. But on top of that, the line was in such danger. So Mason will get tons of tons of volume. And then they get down to the one and do stupid. Oh my gosh, that was so frustrating. Yeah, that game was not a good game. The Vikings were on the one, first and goal. You have Jordan Mason, the power back in there.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And then they do some trick play. fails. Then they get a false start and just nothing. We did get formal I think we mentioned it already but Echler formally out with the Achilles. Day to day for Jaden Daniels who got an MRI on his knee. That's not
Starting point is 00:17:50 something you want to hear from a running commander's quarterback in season two. Just to follow up with it. The commanders are signing veteran running back Chase Edmonds. Practice squad. Oh, is that it? Practice. Well, he'll
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah. Okay. If Chris Rodriguez is going to get called up and actually play. Yeah, we do have two games tonight. The doubleheader, Christian Kirk is officially out. Brock Bowers is expected to play. And there's a lot of points left on the board tonight. You know, Baker and Ibuka and Evans and Bucky and Bowers and lots of big names, Herbert. Yeah, I was going to say you didn't even name the Chargers yet, which...
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, I really... I shouldn't have started naming because there's, like, a lot of players from two games, but then I just kept going. So those games are tonight. That was News Notes, sponsored. by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Caggit Insurance Company, affiliates, and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or
Starting point is 00:18:44 situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll jump into the studs. All right. There was some really, there were some really impressive performances. We'll talk about them first. This week's fantasy
Starting point is 00:19:06 Studmuffins presented by Lowe's Who are you laughing about, Mike? Both of the top two, really. You talk about Jared Goff? Jared Goff. This was Okay, so Jared.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Week 2 says, let's calm down about the lion's offense. And I did not see a world where Jared golf was going to go 330 yards and five passing touchdowns. And we're in a game where Gibbs
Starting point is 00:19:42 and Monty both had a rushing touchdown. Yeah. They had gotten, they were just up so much. And it to me, it was like, I think the lines are trying to prove a point right now. I was like, yeah, you saw week one, we threw that away. You should be terrified of our team.
Starting point is 00:19:58 They did not pull the throttle at all, which that's Dan Campbell's MO, of course, but. Well, and the bear's onside kicking down 600 points definitely makes you want to keep stepping on the gas. The biggest chuckle is number two here, who goes
Starting point is 00:20:14 from looking like a quarterback that I was strongly saying on this show. You cannot play him in week two. This dude was so horrifically bad. We have our prize pick segment where I took the less on his 200 and something yards, which he
Starting point is 00:20:32 essentially doubled. Are you talking about the league leader in passing yards on the season, Russell Wilson? With the most 618 passing yards ahead of every other NFL quarterback, Russell Wilson. So which. Love that guy. It was an incredible day for Russ and the Giants. And I mean, not the end of the game, of course. They end up losing with a spectacular Brandon Aubrey saving the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:21:01 where I felt more even more confident, you know, being against Russ Wilson was the second half of that Cowboys Eagles game, where it's the Cowboys defense really stepped up against the Philadelphia Eagles. The first half was tough. You're like, okay, maybe they got some jitters out. Or, or perhaps the Cowboys defense is just going to be horrifically bad. Yeah, 450 and 3 in case you're wondering what the line was for Russell Wilson. Yeah, I mean that that is another indication of like, maybe the Eagles offense.
Starting point is 00:21:32 We saw between their Super Bowl years when they didn't, you know, they lost their offensive coordinator after the first Super Bowl. Their new man, next man up was really bad. And the Eagles offense struggled for a year. They changed. They brought in Kellan Moore. They had a great offense again. Now they lost Kellyn Moore.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And this new offense that they're running and they're 2 and O and they're fine and they can run the ball for days, it is scary. And you're talking about the second half against. Dallas. They really struggled to move the ball, and you thought maybe that was Dallas. Maybe that was Eagles. Yeah, it's possible. There's just no need. Their defense is unbelievable. We've seen this in Kansas City for two years. You can have a passing game that isn't, you know, explosive. Yeah, they can, they could, if they, if they went into a game saying, I would like to not throw the ball once this game and find a way
Starting point is 00:22:23 to win, I would put their odds at 51% chance that they could succeed. Well, we know Lamar Jackson's good. He threw four touchdowns. But we were very happy to see both Bo Nix and Drake May have bounce back performances for fantasy purposes. Drake May, 2.30 and 2 with a rushing touchdown. It was awesome. I want to ask you about this guy, 23 for 34, 316 and 1. Now, both games have been at home. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But Daniel Jones, another rushing touchdown, they have not punted once in two games. That's the first time ever in the Super Bowl era that a team has done that in back to bed. games to start the season. He looks good. Like he is handling things really, he's handling the blitz. He's processing. He is making good decisions. His accuracy. It's, and he goes to all levels of the field. My favorite thing watching him through these first two weeks is that you watch the really easy screen game, the short stuff, the intermediate, but then he'll take these bomb shots. He's not afraid to go, hey, Alec Pierce, go run 60 yards and I'm going to air it out. And for fantasy purposes, you need those explosive plays to have really good production. And he's got them
Starting point is 00:23:37 locked and loaded. I think, you know, between Josh Downs, Pittman, Tyler Warren, who's definitely awesome and got that dog. And then Jonathan Taylor, this looks like a good offense. I was really excited to see after week one against the dolphins, you know, are they a little bit more for real here, and this was a great defense they played. The Broncos are among the best defensive cores, so I loved to see that and coming up. You've got the Tennessee
Starting point is 00:24:04 Titans, their first road game, but it's not a scary defense. Are we buying in? I'm bought in, yeah. Okay. That's what I was going to ask. Fantasy football wise. I mean, I don't when I say I'm bought in. I'm more in than I would be dismissing it. When I say I'm bought in, what I
Starting point is 00:24:20 mean is I am fine with the pieces and I'm fine streaming Daniel Jones. Like, Jonathan Taylor is obviously awesome and going to be started. I think in most matchups, Michael Pittman is going to be really, really good. You know, I benched him this week personally. I talked about that with Patrick Sertan, and then it went more Josh Downs. But I do think that the weapons can be like Anthony Richardson. Would you rather have Daniel Jones or Kyler Murray rest of the season locked into your quarterback spot?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Oh, man. Oh, man. probably still probably still, Kyleor. Yeah, that's enough to record. That's enough of this show. Turn off the lights.
Starting point is 00:25:01 This is, that was. Well, I mean, I think we'd all pick them over Justin Fields right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Caleb Williams are him. Daniel Jones. For sure. Drake May. I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:14 it feels like that's fair too. That's fair. Papa Josh said, answer the question, you coward. I did. I said I would take Kyler. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Kyler, though. The hard. The tough thing about that is Kyler sucks. Yeah. That is really, that's a good point. These questions are, they're so,
Starting point is 00:25:33 2 and 0, baby. It's so black or white with the decision. And yet fantasy football is just great. The real answer is you're going to be bouncing around to these guys. I mean, I'll be looking at Daniel Jones. I'll tell you this. I'll be looking at him.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I mean, I have Justin Fields. I'm going to look at Daniel Jones. I might play matchups between Kyler and Daniel Jones if I happen to grab him. Mahomes, he has been running wild, 7 for 66. That's the good, the bad. Not sure he has any wide receivers. Really not sure he has any. Obviously, Tyquan Thornton is a dog.
Starting point is 00:26:05 By the way, if you watch the end of that game, oh, man. With about three minutes left, I'm running out of time. And Tyquan Thornton breaks into the open as defenders run, the defenders run into each other. Tycoon Thornton has 30 yards of separation. And Patrick Mahomes sees him, because he's Mahomes. and he misses Taekwon Thornton on the easiest bomb touchdown of his life.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And I'm devastated. I'm like, this is. That was his chance. I was like, I got a tweet about that because that's going to be the only shot I get. And then somehow came back to him. But no, right now it looks like, I mean, Hollywood's whatever. It's worth noting that they are expecting Xavier Worthy to play in week three. They need him bad.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And they need Rashi Rice bad. So, you know, right now they're own two. So Mahomes, you know, he does have a league. leading 13 scrambles for 123 yards because he's had to. And there you go. They can't lose to the Giants, can't? Oh, yeah, they can't. Yeah, they can't. The Giants should have
Starting point is 00:27:03 won this week, man. Brian Daibel is he's not doing well. That is a stressed out man. Yeah. That is a man who has dealt with this for a year. Oh, it's Sunday night. Oh, my God. Pacey at the Giants in New York. Somehow a Giants
Starting point is 00:27:19 game is a must watch. Right now. That game is going to be an ugly, unfun, unwatchable game. I think you're probably right about that. But that's what will make that one fun. Running backs, by the way, the top five scores already said.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Goff, Wilson, May, Lamar, and Daniel Jones. Top five running backs this week. Johnny Taylor, Jason getting greedy. He got the number one performance of the week. Not enough. But could have had more. Actually, just enough. James. Oh, yeah, Jason won by like 0.1. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Oh, it was so scary at the end of those games. Because you were like, you have. You're playing against Jalen Hurds, and Jail and Hurtz is getting tush push after push. Yeah, but we're at the point where like 0.1, like a tush push is going to kill me. So you hung on to victory. James Cook was the second highest performer of the week. James Cook is giving the middle finger to everybody that thought he couldn't score
Starting point is 00:28:13 touchdowns at the same rate as last year. One of the better runs you will see. He's the running back one through two weeks. Oh, my gosh, that run from James Cook. I mean, like a triple jump cut. 40, I don't remember how long it was. He should have been stopped for a one-yard loss. Then he should have been stopped at the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Then he should have been stopped at about a two-yard gain. He broke all of those and then ran for whatever it was, like a 50-yard touchdown. A. Chan, Giovante, and Christian McCaffrey, they round out the top five. McCaffrey still just about 20 points, even with the Mack Jones start, where now the 49ers have won back-to-back games to start the year on the road with two different quarterbacks. No George Kittle, and McCaffrey currently healthy and looking at it. We'll say, so Mack Jones, it looked brutal to start. He, by the second half, looked competent and... 279 and 3.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, he ends up as one of the better fantasy quarterbacks, surprisingly. And then he'll play Arizona and Jacksonville for the next two matchups, so I wouldn't be overly concerned about McCaffrey. Devon A. Chan, 10 targets, 8 for 92. wasn't great on the ground again, but catches so many pounds. He should have had another monster one. Javante Williams, 18 for 97 and a touchdown. The running back two so far.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And six targets. The Javante stuff is incredible. He looked much better in week two. Now the Dallas Cowboys did just lose. It was their center. So a report just came out that the center will miss six to eight weeks. Yikes. With a high ankle sprain.
Starting point is 00:29:48 So that will be. interesting to monitor to see how that affects Giovante's resurgence. I have a Romandre Stevenson smirk on my face. Yeah, dude. 11 for 54 on the ground and then 5 for 88 through the air, including a fingertip in stride catch.
Starting point is 00:30:05 He was... You know who that looked like on that catch? Travion Anderson. It was a really amazing performance by Ramandre. And to contrast it, I mean, Trayvion barely saw the field. And they said he picked up three holding penalties. He had three holding calls. So
Starting point is 00:30:20 it the rookies the mistakes for rookies travion henderson with the holding calls Caleb johnson on the don't know the rules he had him he had what did he do he never touched the ball he didn't do anything he don't his job if you so this should be in the next segment but caleb johnson shout out to my man wolf you want to talk about giving a game away he is the kick returner which is his only job and and he's I want to dial in those rules if that's your job. The ball goes, it takes a wicked bounce and goes over his shoulder. So he doesn't, he doesn't catch it, he misses that.
Starting point is 00:30:59 He starts walking off the field. And then he turns around, watches the ball. I think he thought maybe it was going through the, like through the back end zone. If it hits the end zone, it's just automatically a touchback. But instead, he just walks off the field, leaving the other team to go grab the ball in the end zone. Touchdown. Immediate touch. I mean, that is like, you're going to see a hell.
Starting point is 00:31:19 healthy scratch. You know what I mean? You've got to punish a player who doesn't know the rules of the job he's doing as a rookie. The only other player more embarrassing this week was that left tackle for the Giants. Did you see, I mean, he had four
Starting point is 00:31:35 penalties on the first drive. Two false starts, personal fouls. It was unbelievable. Part of Brian Dable's stress. Bijon. Yes, that's right. Bejohn. Yeah, we are so back. Bejohn. We're back to
Starting point is 00:31:49 Bijon? Yeah. Not Bajon? Not Bajon. But he said his name is Bajon. No, he didn't. He did. He said his grandma and his mama calls him that. And then last night on the air, I noticed Collinsworth and, oh gosh, why can't I remember his name? The other announcer. Mike Tariq. Mike Tariko. Thank you. They were all game long, they're calling him Bijon, Bijon, Bajon, Bajon. And I'm going, all right, that's going to be enough for me. And then all of a sudden they talk about it on the air and they say, well, we sat down with Bijon.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And we talked to Bijon. What does he want to be called? He said he wants to be called Bijon. Then what was all this Bejohn stuff? Yeah, come on. He said that he doesn't like Bejohn. Why didn't you say that when you were saying it? This is, you know, we're back to Beijon.
Starting point is 00:32:33 But 22-4-1-43 and looked insane. I mean, just out of this world. So we wondered against Minnesota. After that first week, it looked like the carries might be split. They were using Bejan as more of a pass catcher against Tampa Bay because, and that was clearly game plan. That was, we're playing against. against a tough run line, you know, Vita Vaya there.
Starting point is 00:32:53 This game, they come out and they just hand the ball to him the entire beginning of the first drive until penalties got in his way. Hey, Mike, I'll give you a moment here. We're back, baby. Another pendulum swing here. Week one, Kenneth Walker looked like the worst riding back in football. Yeah. Week two.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Who looks like the worst now? Pittsburgh does. Oh, they look like a bad. But I'm saying. Yeah, 13 for 105 in a touchdown. and Charbonnet was the inverse of week one. He was terrible. He had more snaps and touches.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yeah, it's... Or same touches. I think it... Unfortunately for now, it will just end up still being the timeshare of the... I mean, it's what Walker was last week. Like, they kept giving him touches, even though he was the one who was inefficient
Starting point is 00:33:39 and really hurting the offense. Charbonnet was the one hurting the offense this time, but they still kept giving in the ball, putting him out there. So probably still a time share. but Kenneth Walker truly is he's the one who has the juice. Jamir Gibbs, 12 for 94 and 1
Starting point is 00:33:54 in a blowout victory. Could have been a lot more. Saquan, 22 for 88 and 1. Chuba Hubbard. Chuba just backdoored his way in here. I mean, another receiving touchdown for Chuba. Is that two in a row? Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:07 At the end of the game. He was 10 for 38. It was not going to be a good day. And then during that Carolina, attempted comeback, which Arizona they attempted to let them Arizona really wanted Carolina to win the game if you didn't watch the end of it
Starting point is 00:34:22 it was ridiculous but that included 27 to 3 and then they went into a permanent pre-event defense like I'm not I'm not drawing any conclusions from past catching from about the third quarter on for Carolina because it was like Bryce Young had a good day because it was just the Cardinals played 10
Starting point is 00:34:38 yards off the line of scrimmage they didn't want to let anything get by them they abandoned everything that made them have success in the beginning of the game I hate that It's so wild. That's not a dog mentality. No, it is not. That is.
Starting point is 00:34:50 No. That's a meow defense. And you're like, hey, our defense, we're destroying them. They have three points. You know what we should do? Let's change everything. It's not like they were trying to give up deep stuff in the beginning of the game. Correct.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Just play the game. And then they give up an on-site kick. And then Carolina gets three penalties and they have a chance to beat them. Ridiculous. Outrageous. Outrage. We don't need no meows. We don't need no cats.
Starting point is 00:35:15 you don't know that drop that's an old let me hear that again I didn't hear that be a dog we don't need no meow we don't need no cats we don't need no meow
Starting point is 00:35:28 we don't need no cats wow that's good that guy years ago whenever I heard that I was like that guy's crazy but you know what he's on to something oh Mike is he's really
Starting point is 00:35:36 have you gotten the chair set up on the lawn yet or well yeah on the front porch yeah I got to make sure that no one touches my lawn in your hand? Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Get off my lawn. We don't need no cats. Yeah, I mean, I'm walking up and down the street. I'm like, hey, turn that music down. Oh, are you going to join H-O-A? Oh, bro. It's going to be the present. I'm handing out leaflets.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Someone needs to take over and clean this mess up. This is amazing. This new trend. I love it. Mike has really turned over a new leaf. I'm going to dye my beard gray. Oh. I got to get some more.
Starting point is 00:36:14 authority. They just wait a little while. Wide receiver scores this week. Amon Ross St. Brown dropped 34 against me. That was cool. Three touchdowns, goal line touchdowns. He is real good at football. Malik neighbors, Jemar Chase, Rome.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Oh, man. A dunzae. I think that was the biggest takeaway of the week is it appears that it's early. And obviously, DJ Moore is still involved. He's great. But there was a big question coming into the season as to who. is going to be the number one between those two guys. Maybe for you.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Sure. For me there was. I know you were clearly on the Adunze side. I sometimes you don't want to overreact, but sometimes it's about how quick you can correctly react. It took one play of the season to know that Xavier Legat is a turd and not good at football. Rome Adunzei, it took me too long, which is two games, but he is absolutely the one for that team.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Devante Adams, 13 targets. Nice to see. Six for 106. This was the one game we saw the least of this weekend because the NFL decided to give us nine morning games. NFL. Stop it! Or no, wait. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, nine. Yeah, yeah. Nine morning games and we have eight televisions. We have eight TVs for the games, NFL. How is that not enough? Yeah, that's, I mean, we had the middle game on Red Zone, so we saw all the red zone of that game. But we had to pick one, and Puka and Devonte got it done. and the three game afternoon.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's not as, it's very NFL. I don't, I don't get it. It's not as compound. Did you say NFL? On NFL. Oh. You said NFL.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Did I? You did. Which is awesome. That's cool. Hey. Very NFL. I got my message across. Troy, Franklin, Jason.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Go ahead. Hey, hey, baby. Yeah. Oh, man. It is so fun. You're Jason sing that eight times for 89 yards in a touchdown. Oh, man. It's so fun singing that every time he catches the ball,
Starting point is 00:38:12 which was more to the ball. than all the other past catchers there. If you look at the targets between like... Coralyn Sutton was the biggest disappointment of the week. Coralyn Sutton also had more targets that are not on the official sheet because they're just having penalties kept happening. But he, yeah, Coralyn was a big bummer. And then George Pickens, 5 for 68 and a touchdown, CD Lamb, 9 for 112,
Starting point is 00:38:33 and the Dallas offense got it going with those guys. George Pickens' league leader in penalty yards gained. Dude, every deep shot, it's like NFL defenders, Just go, I can tackle him before the ball gets here. I don't understand why they don't give him chances at those deep shots. But the nice thing is they threw some regular routes to him, and he did very well. Tucker Kraft, we saw it on Thursday, number one score of the week at tight end. Number two is an interesting conversation, though, because Zacherts, yet again,
Starting point is 00:39:02 eight target six or 64, no more Austin Echler in this offense. Terry McLaren has not got it going. And, you know, Zacherts through two weeks looks like a very, intradical part yet again. He after, I mean, I think he's, he's difficult. Probably the number, he's probably a top five tight end. He was, he was tight end number nine in week one with over ten points. I mean, he's, he has scored in both weeks.
Starting point is 00:39:26 He's on pace for 110 targets. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know where I am on with the Zachert stuff because, I mean, like his touchdown. Oh, I know where you are. Well. Denial. Well, Zacherts is, is Washington going to be getting throttled every single week?
Starting point is 00:39:42 because he, like, his touchdown was pretty garbagey, too, of, like, near the end of the game. There are a lot of people that drafted Evan Ingram, and Evan Ingram does not look like a thing. Yeah, you can move over to Hertz from that. Zach Ertz is the Titan 2 so far through two weeks. Joanne Johnson, he had two of the ugliest. The Titan 3 through two weeks. Two of the ugliest drops you've ever seen, and then one of the most beastly touchdown catches ever, Join Johnson, 5 for 49 in a touchdown on nine targets.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah, that's the thing to track for. Juan Johnson's, the nine targets, and 20 targets through two games that's leading the entire position. He is, it wasn't just week one. Week two was also, we're using Juan like a wide receiver. So it's very, very encouraging for those of us that paid up to get him off of the wire. I completely agree. He looks like in this offense and what they're doing, like Spencer Rattler was very competent. Yeah. He was 25 for 34, 34 attempts in that offense. So it means a lot. Tell them our teams play. fast.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And they play from behind if you're that team. So we'll take a break and we'll jump into the duds. Well, if you want to stay in a good mood, you can, I guess, turn off the podcast. Poopped in his big boy pants. Or you can stick around and we'll talk about some of the disappointing performances and whether we think any of them matter or going to last or just blips on the radar. are like Josh Allen and Jalen Hertz, who had two of the worst fantasy days of any quarterbacks this week,
Starting point is 00:41:17 and they're just, you know, that happens. The thing is about Josh Allen. You watch Josh Allen and you watch Lamar Jackson, and both of their teams were up big. And in one case, they're basically saying, hey, we don't need you anymore, Josh Allen. Let's run the ball, and then let's take you off the field. And in the other case, they're like, hey, Lamar,
Starting point is 00:41:35 just go be insane. Just go keep throwing unbelievable passes every time. I mean, he's so good. He didn't get his MVP last time, so we got to make sure. I mean, it matters because I expect these teams to be up quite a bit. And so I would like the one that's going to keep pouring it on. All right. So J.J. McCarthy, 11 for 21, three, was it, six sacks taken, two interceptions, three fumbles, I think.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It was as disastrous. It was basically like if week one, the first half had just completed that way. You would have felt this way. so three you've got you've got the four halves of football three of one of them have been good well it's and three of them have been atrocious really one quarter i mean seven eighths of his play has been bad and then he had an incredible quarter however we know he can't do that and going into you know next week they're at home against Cincinnati so it feels like a matchup that you can try to go back out there again um i would you do it no no i i wouldn't do it because
Starting point is 00:42:40 because you don't need to. That's where I like everybody wanted to start JJ. I saw so many starts at questions where they wanted to start. Like there was you know, it's like Jordan Love, CJ Stroud, JJ. Okay, JJ's a lock is what I'm hearing. I'm like, no, JJ should not be a lock
Starting point is 00:42:56 because you should give it some time and you didn't draft them in a position where he has to be your starter. Let's let it breathe a little bit. It was exciting. It's fun. He's like offensive player of the week and had a dynamic into that game, but it was also a Bears collapsing defense and it was, let's just breathe a little bit. Let's see how he plays.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Well, they also... I'd rather play Daniel Jones. I'd rather play Kyler. They never got anything. Like, Mason didn't get going. So I, which I think is a... Mason has to have success for for JJ McCarthy to have success. Yeah, Al, do you care if I share that? No, go for it. I mean, he said he...
Starting point is 00:43:31 Al had the same excitement. He rushed, he said, into starting JJ, and it ends up going into his lineup over Jared Gough. Yeah. Whoops. yeah that is i mean i was right there with you man of i that's part of the like i didn't see jared goff doing that it seemed like they would just take their win keiler 220 and one had seven for 32 on the ground he was okay he had one of the worst interceptions just a boneheaded play now that was uh you you might have thought that was jason saying that that was actually a sound bite that we got
Starting point is 00:44:02 and we play it every week yeah that kiler plays football that's where we are now um michael pennich Jr. didn't do much. I mean, he 135 yards. If you want to talk about a situation I would be worried about, it is Atlanta's passing game because they don't, they might not need it. They have a pass rush. They have a
Starting point is 00:44:22 defense that played well in week one, played really well in week two. Michael Pinnock's Jr., like we had this little three game trend at the end of the season. A lot of the puns that weren't even good enough for the show had to do with Drake London. And Michael Pinnock Jr., Drake London combination through two weeks. It leaves a lot to be desired when you have Bijon running that way and the defense
Starting point is 00:44:43 playing this way. You know, 21 attempts for 135 yards in a win, a bunch of field goal kicks. It's a little concerning. I'm not. I don't think it's, I mean, in week one, he was, he was very good through for almost 300 yards. This was a real defensive slug fest. I don't expect that to be the norm for them. Well, Drake London, he did have the 15 targets in week one, but. Drake London had a bad game. A couple of drops, a fumble. 3.449. His yards per catch in week one was just 6.9. I'm just, I mean, defensive slugfest or not, I guess I'd be a little concerned. I don't, I could never see a game where, where Kurt Cousins threw for 135 passing yards in this office. That was not going to happen. But this rookie's getting managed, is my point. Sure. So I actually do draw a conclusion from that one. Running back, Derek Henry, 11 for 23, was invisible. It happens. Chase Brown. Maybe a bit of a red alert here, probably looking more like an RB2 at best without Joe Burrow as the head of the offense.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, I think that that's probably a fair thing to say. We'll see how Browning, if he checks it down. Like, that's what we need. We need Chase Brown to have more than three targets. I failed you here. Breeze Hall, 10 for 29. I mean, I don't know why I didn't just stay hating. certain players.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Fields and Brice. I mean, it's not like I've liked those guys before. Why did I like them? What delusion? What potion did I drink? Yeah. Well, I mean, when week one, Brice did look the part.
Starting point is 00:46:22 He really was explosive. And honestly, there was a run or two in this game where he still looked pretty quick. The Buffalo defense really shut down Justin Fields. The Jets didn't look good. Coming up, though, it's another tough run defense against Tampa pay. The utilization for Brise Hall was
Starting point is 00:46:41 good though. I mean, he had 60% of the snaps. He had even more percentage of the workload. So I'm not going to just write Brice Hall completely off because of one bad game. Somebody understandably frustrated with the triple Jets picks from last
Starting point is 00:46:58 week. Completely get it. We don't get it all right. But my favorite comment of all the comments was we did it because we wanted those, we wanted some extra social media clicks by picking the Jets and I just want to put it out there
Starting point is 00:47:14 we do not receive those. We do not receive extra social media clicks for picking players that we hate. Well. Yeah. Zach Charbonnet, 15 for 10. Is that good? Yeah, yeah. Negative 7. Got him. 2, negative 1, negative 1, 0,000, 0,000, 1.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Can't wait for that to just 100 flip every single week. That's the problem. And you said that about Justin Fields, even when I picked him last week, you're like, yeah, he could just go back to Justin Fields next week. And he did. And Zach Charbonnet and Walker completely flipped. Yeah, I mean, the way that Charbonnet plays,
Starting point is 00:47:49 this is why on Price picks, my prediction was that he would have less than 12 and a half as his longest rushing attempt. He had less than 12 and a half in the game. And I'm going to go out there since we mentioned it a couple of times. We are listening to you and we are going to make the Friday segment even more fun. Like, Wheel of Shame is a guarantee. always returning to Friday just so you know
Starting point is 00:48:11 and we'll probably do some other stuff I'm going to spin the wheel five times for Russell Wilson or at least twice yeah double the yardage let's talk about a major major major problem and his name is Isaiah Pacheco
Starting point is 00:48:28 he was five for 25 in week one he was 10 for 22 in week two yes it was the Chargers yes it was Philadelphia well next week's the Giants front. Okay. And then it's the Baltimore front. Hey, but Jacksonville's in between there, but then it's Detroit. So are we two weeks in, are we panicking about a not top 40 running back? He was, I mean, I brought it up after last week. He's unstartable. I mean, Pacheco,
Starting point is 00:48:52 he doesn't concern me that much because, I mean, I wasn't starting him already. I don't think anybody should have been relying on Pacheco after the week one. And where you drafted him, hopefully you didn't need to. I think it's, I think it's, really disappointing based off of all the coach speak things happen but all the word at training camp was Isaiah Pacheco is the one and he looks far closer to
Starting point is 00:49:18 pre-injury form than and I'm not saying he doesn't look good when he's you know if he has space or anything but he's in a full time share and he is not producing I would be putting him on the bench I see a missing name on this list
Starting point is 00:49:34 that I have to bring out R.J. Harvey. I mean, R.J. Harvey was five carries for eight yards. We have back-to-back top 15 performances from J.K. Dobbins. We see Tyler Badegh on the field. You had the breakaway run in week one for Harvey, but he's got 11 touches in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Yeah. We're like on the Trayvon-Hinderson plan here. Yeah, it's, they are rookies. They are highly drafted rookies, so you need to hold on. But this is not moving away from them, but let them sit on the bench. and work their way into the actual rotation. Yeah, not there yet.
Starting point is 00:50:11 No. It will happen, but you've got to have patience. Jordan Mason did not deliver the week that I think Mike was hoping for. It was right there. Nine for 30. Yeah. Well, he'll be the starter for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And, you know, we saw the bill of performance on Thursday. It was non-existent. And hilariously, I don't think Aaron Jones had a catch. No. So, like, hey, we'll go with Aaron Jones, he can catch the ball. That offense was just... Yeah, but Jordan Mason caught the ball a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah. It's funny. Yeah. Sam Darnel put up five touchdowns against Atlanta last year. Remember that game? Jordan Addison had three of them. Yeah. Put up like 9 million yards.
Starting point is 00:50:49 By the way, that feels like a whoopsie right now. Fun Kiron Williams story. He was not that bad. He was 17 for 66. But there was the point of the game where we were expecting his routine touchdown. The Rams were doing weird stuff at the goal line, too.
Starting point is 00:51:02 It happened. And Al Borland, who's got, Scott Kiron Williams over there You put the hand up and you were cheering Yep And then we saw the name I cashed my bet We saw the name Corum on the back of the jersey
Starting point is 00:51:14 And I didn't cash me there Do you care about that? Corum getting a token goal on carry there A little bit I would say so Surprised you Kyron and Corum Split carries a little bit more
Starting point is 00:51:26 What you know Going into the season they talked about Hey we might share the workload a little bit And I said I expect it to happen and I'm not that concerned. Still 19 opportunities for Kyran. I think this is going to be the norm, and I'm not that concerned. Kyron still, if you compare him to other running backs, was way better.
Starting point is 00:51:46 But the one thing I didn't expect to happen is to have Kyron taken off on the goal line. I'm not a huge fan of that Duds graphic back behind you, Jason. No? Is it because of how ugly you are? Yeah, that's not a great graphic. Remember when you didn't have a tooth? I remember when he didn't have a tooth. I know that. That's accurate.
Starting point is 00:52:04 That's a photograph. The hairline is not accurate yet. That's Jason's hair. I wish. Do you want that thick, luscious locks? Wide receivers, we've got to talk about it, A.J. Brown 5 for 27, and then DeVante Smith got banged up. I mean, we were hoping that No Goddard meant great things for A.J. Brown.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I don't know if you, like, there's a little bit of a disinterested feel to what I saw from A.J. Brown. I know he had eight targets, but there was a little bit of a, like, maybe these guys are getting taken out of the game by the game plan, and maybe we're getting a little bit discontent out there on the outside. I mean, two weeks in, are you, what's your posture right now with A.J. Brown? Like, the name is powerful enough to where you could absolutely trade A.J. Brown Despite the two bad games, there would be tons of buyers out there. It's just a matter of whether or not.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I would not sell him cheap for pennies on the dollar by any means. this is sometimes we overthink it right a j brown is still a great wide receiver and he's on a great team with a great quarterback so good fantasy production will happen this season but we're also seeing a team where right now jalen hurts is 29th in total passing yards through two weeks and they're two and oh they don't have to do much and that is um you know if i could trade a j brown for preseason would you trade it for by thomas junior Yeah. Yeah, because I think that the total passing yards, the total passing yards, total passing attempts, opportunities are much better for Brian Thomas. It's been a bad two weeks for Ryan Thomas Jr. 4-4-49 and the mistakes in this week. The targets have been there.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Travis Hunter got a little banged up in the game was just three for 22, six targets. There was a lot of Diamie Brown. There was a lot of Parker Washington. There was some Britain Strange. There was some Travis E.T.N. There was some Bayshall-Tooten. There was moving. the ball all over the place. So that is something to watch. I mean, Travis Hunter, he either is a thing. And you drafted him, he played 100% of snaps, by the way, 100%. Wow. He either is a thing that could take away a little bit from Brian Thomas in the future. Now, the targets, they, I think the passer rating for Trevor Lawrence is 18 when targeting Brian Thomas Jr. His pass rating, targeting everybody else is much better. It's just been a bad connection so far. We talked
Starting point is 00:54:27 about Drake London. You said that you were concerned about Brian Thomas before this game because of Travis Hunter and the fact that the target, the actual targets might not go his way. Where would you be on that, AJ Brown versus Brian Thomas? I would do it for the same reasons that you said, which is that your targets, targets are king. Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be a squeaky wheel. He's younger. He was so explosive.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And I just, I feel like AJ Brown has to take advantage of fewer opportunities in less time. So, yeah, I would rather a Brian Thomas Jr. I feel like in a lot of leagues, that would be cathartic. to both managers. Just like every league that has AJ Brown and Brian Thomas. Yeah, just like, yeah, this guy's giving me too bad performance. Yeah, I need a fresh start. Would you rather have Drake London than both those guys?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Yes. I think so too. We had DJ Moore just five for 46. We had Keon Coleman, just three for 26. Yeah, that was a bummer. That was also very few passing yards and need to pass for Buffalo. I would, if it's a by low chance, if you believe in Keon, like I do, I would actually go after him. Yeah, I mean, we said going into this week, like, if the bills are up big, they're going to run the ball, they're going to take the foot off the passing accelerator.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And so week one against Baltimore, when they were down, Keon Coleman had a great game. And it showed to me that Keon Coleman stepped up and he is good, but it won't always be like week one because they just don't need it to be. Hollywood Brown, hugely disappointing. Same with Juju, 5 for 30 for Hollywood in a game where they needed him. and they couldn't get it done. Garrett Wilson, he went as the Jets went, four for 50. And so, yeah. Yeah, you need more.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Cortland Sutton just won for six. He was behind Troy Franklin in this one, target percentage-wise, through two weeks he still is behind Troy Franklin, who is leading the way on that team in target percentage. Yes, that is true. Woo, baby. You guys remember when I told you there's no way I'm making Marvin Harrison Jr.
Starting point is 00:56:32 My guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I finally got to that point. I wanted to believe all the offseason. You had him on your board for most of the offseason. Well, look, he published some pictures.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Oh. Oh. Oh, is it a little purring action? Look, Marvin Harrison. It's weak. Marv? It's weak. Miaovin Harrison Jr.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yes, thank you. Two for 27. Goodness gracious. I wasn't willing to get all in on Marvin Harrison because I wanted, I needed to see it in a real game. I'm tired of the offseason discussion. I'm tired of the weightlifting. pictures. I want to see a player that looks, I don't know, 10% as good as Malik neighbors.
Starting point is 00:57:07 This is not, there are jags all over the place at wide receiver that make a big catch, right? How many times has Mack Hollins made a phenomenal catch? Yeah, Matt Collins caught a touchdown. Look, Marv, I'm sorry. The truth is Marv is good, not great. That is exactly what he's been through his entire career so far. He doesn't regularly win and have huge separation. Yes, he comes down with a, you know, an over-the-shoulder catch from Kyler from time to time. It is, you know, they gave him a goal.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I like the goal-line attempt. It was a terrible pass and a terrible play doing the back-shoulder fade. But guess what? Larry would have caught it. I'm sorry. And you have- I'm wearing the Cardinal on the hat. I'm going to be as critical as, I'm going to be realistic with Marvin,
Starting point is 00:57:51 and he is not a fantasy football superstar right now. They're, you know, the commentary during the game, they're like talking about Kyler and Marr. and, like, Marv, does he ever ask, you know, does he ever, the squeak was he asking for the bar? He's like, oh, no, that's not part of his, not part of his temperament. You're like, they're saying it like it's a good thing. I hated when they said. I hated it.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It's a terrible thing. No, he never asks for the ball. He never demands the ball. Be selfish. Not polite. We don't want a polite wide receiver. No, every good wide receiver. You got to have a little bit of diva in you, just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah. You don't got to be Antonio Brown, but. Come on, man. Yeah, take a penalty. Hit him in the face. I wish he had the cat in him. He's got a little kitten. The kitten Harrison, Jr.
Starting point is 00:58:39 All right. That was pretty hard. But, yeah, two for 27 says it all. There's a game that the Cardinals won and we're up 27 to 3 and it was in no part due to Marvin Harrison. Is Michael Wilson had the dog? Yeah. Michael Wilson got it done. Trey McBride's got the dog.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Oh, Tray. Stop holding the door. Let it hit somebody. Tray McBride's got the wolf, man. Ricky Pearsall 4 for 56. That one was a bummer, especially when you see Joanne Jennings, who was like, there was no way I was playing
Starting point is 00:59:05 Joanne after the injury. I was okay with Pierceall. And that was backwards. You saw a balancing in Indianapolis. You saw Josh Downs get more involved. Michael Pittman just four for 40 in this game. And so, look, that's part of the weekly process. You've got to let things
Starting point is 00:59:21 settle out. Wide receivers in general. And Pat's are tan. Outside of, you know, top tier guys who even top tier guys They're inconsistent at times. We might be ready to move off of Stefan Diggs. I don't know. He was 4 for 32. Kishon Booty seems like a better play.
Starting point is 00:59:37 He only had one target. Booty did, but thankfully that target was in the end zone and was a touchdown. It was an awesome, a difficult catch. I'm really wanting some clarity on the Patriots receiving core. It was a great game for the Patriots but didn't go as expected. I'm hopeful that Booty retains that wide receiver one roll. going forward? How'd you feel about Cedrick Tillman and Jerry Judy? Tillman caught a deflected
Starting point is 01:00:01 past touchdown, but he was two for 20, I think. So I actually felt when I look at how that worked with the four receiving targets Judy, Tillman, Njoku, and Fanon, it was wonderful to see Joe Flacco throw the ball basically 50 times. I mean, you know he's going to go out there
Starting point is 01:00:19 and throw the ball so much, but it was against a very difficult defense and Flacco could not move. I mean, when he had to When he had to run, man, it looked like Andy out there trying to pick up the first down with his legs. I'd take that as a compliment. Yeah. You look like an NFL athlete, Andy.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Joe Flacco. Let me lay it out for you, okay? The good. 90 passing attempts in two games from Joe Flacco. The bad. I mean, Joe Flacco's got two total touchdowns and three interceptions. And he's taking some sacks. And there's, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I am. not he's not everything right like he's okay yeah he's he's not good enough to where um you have to start him in bad matchups and but not him obviously you're not going to start joe flacco because he doesn't move but his weapons i think in decent matchups you're fine starting them now next week green bay packers who i think might have the best defense in the league yeah that's where okay i'm i'm not going to trust that flacco is able to get the ball downfield accurately with pressure in his face. And you're not going to be able to trust Cam Ward to do that with Calvin Ridley, I think.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Calvin Ridley, another dud game. Three for 57, okay, whatever. But let's look at this. We didn't get to mention Epic Iommanner, who we should have in the Suds, because he did catch a touchdown pass and was heavily involved again. But through two weeks, fancy points per game, Iommanner ahead of Ridley. Target percentage. Ridley's at 23 percent.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Iommanner's at 21%. By the way, Iow Manor, 100% of snaps this week. targets per game seven and six point five receiving yards per game 42 and 34 it's close enough to where one guy is sitting on waivers in 95% of leagues the other guy was drafted yeah i mean io manor i think is the wide receiver you want going forward especially you know the longer that the season goes the more that the young guy will get better i am very skeptical of what we've seen from cam ward through two weeks uh obviously week one very difficult defense this game difficult defense. So Indianapolis is coming to town. We'll learn more next week. But like
Starting point is 01:02:28 his, his highlight, Cam Ward's highlight was a awesome pass. Awesome pass. It was a cautionary tale. It was, you know who we've seen make really cool plays like that? Russell Wilson. Will Lewis. Oh, yeah. I mean, it looked like a Will Levis play. It was, it was awesome. He ran around. Who should not be named in Tennessee. If you didn't see the play, he had pressure come in the pocket. He weirdly runs towards the pressure, but escapes, awesomely, runs to the right side of the field. He is scrambling and then throws, throws so, I mean, such a difficult throw across his body, 40 yards in the air, over coverage. Looks like 80 yards. And touchdown.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Awesome highlight. But it was like, you don't want to do that. You don't want to throw that ball. I'm saying it was, it looked like a 40-yard pass, but how many yards did he actually accumulate from it? Because it was, it was like 10 yards or so. and yet worked, so we'll just be happy there. By the way, this is why Zach Ertz's name is coming up, because
Starting point is 01:03:29 Sam Laporte, a 3 for 26, Mark Andrews, 1 for 2, T.J. Hawkinson, oh, this one's scary. 1 for 12. Evan Ingram, 1 for 12. David DiJoku, 4 for 40 with Harold Fanon and involved again, Kyle Pitts, dip back down to 4 for 37. You have reasons to start trying
Starting point is 01:03:45 to find an emerging higher target option the way that all of these drafted tight-ins like Hawkinson. Hawkinson, I would move. Four catches in two games, Mm-hmm. Mark Andrews should not be allowed back in this list, rest of year. Okay? Because there's not, you need big boy pants. You need big boy pants. We are, I, I have no idea. You did drop a touchdown. I have no idea what will be, oh, he did. And it was just, it was like what? There's, there's no way I'm playing Mark Andrews. Hawkinson, I would play, I think I'd, I'd play
Starting point is 01:04:15 I'd play Erts over him while J.J. McCarthy's getting everything figured out. Evan Angroom, yeah. Nojoku, I'd still stick with him and Laporta. Then, I am not. not. I'm not in a Joku anymore. No? No, I'm not personally. I understand why you want to say out 45 passing attempts, but look, you either have to say that I mean, what do you think of Harold Fanon? Harold Fanon is a good player who will be
Starting point is 01:04:37 on the field and do exactly what he's doing the first two weeks the rest of the season. So do you have confidence in both of those guys? Kind of. I think both are startable. Okay. Obviously, if an injury happens to either one, the other becomes, I think, a top five tight-end every single week.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah, I mean, Fanon had basically the same line as Nojoku, right? I don't have it in front of me, but it was five for 48. I think maybe the worry is that you won't really get any ceiling there, two touchdowns through two weeks. If you don't score, are you ever happy? No, I don't know. It's a floor play where you can start either one of them, but you're not getting 15 points.
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